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Speaker 3: Radio, grantings and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon, No

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Speaker 3: Jason Tonight back after the new year, and for me

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Speaker 3: I Cap twenty twenty five as well, alongside the stinking

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Speaker 3: genius Arnie span you for another night as we seek

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Speaker 3: some shelter from the storm.

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Speaker 4: We got a game with football scoring going on, Arnie scoring.

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Speaker 4: We got forty five points in the first half. That's

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Speaker 4: combined is better than everything.

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Speaker 5: We had yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Let's stop pretending like we even care about that, and too,

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Speaker 6: how you doing the happy day after Christmas?

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Speaker 7: It's good to hear from you again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we did that yesterday. I don't need to kiss

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Speaker 3: your ass.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna give you a compliment, saying you're

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Speaker 6: really getting learning how to drive a show.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: I thinking about another eight to ten years, you'll get

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Speaker 6: the hang of it. So congratulations.

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Speaker 3: In eight to ten years, I hope to be uh

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Speaker 3: sitting on a porch or hanging out and a setup

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Speaker 3: like Hawkeyes got when he retreats from being an Avenger.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Linda CARLINI will be waiting there

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Speaker 3: for me, but we'll see. You never can tell. At

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Speaker 3: Stick and Genius one, what's ed.

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Speaker 7: That's over my head?

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Speaker 8: Mike? There you go.

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Speaker 5: Well, we gotta we gotta get you. You gotta have some

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Speaker 5: of the more current pop culture references. We need to

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Speaker 5: up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to give you a bunch of

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Speaker 3: six seven references while.

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Speaker 5: We're at it?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: I know with that. Don't start with that, please, that

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Speaker 7: makes me sick of d oh.

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Speaker 3: No, that just made me feel like you've at least

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Speaker 3: paid attention to something outside of some bogus Twitter accounts

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Speaker 3: in a couple of months at Sticking Genius one where

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Speaker 3: you find them find me over at swollen Oh my

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Speaker 3: beloved Northwestern Wildcats with a Big Bowl victory earlier today. Uh,

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Speaker 3: that's about all. I'll say, Preston Stone three touchdowns, uh,

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Speaker 3: six straight bowl wins for the Cats, because look, if

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit in the and drive, as you so

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Speaker 3: actually call it, I've got to make the show about

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Speaker 3: me for a chores. Like if it was a Mets

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Speaker 6: I thought we were gonna do four hours on the

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Speaker 6: on the game. That's why I was watching it so intense.

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Speaker 5: So intently. Yeah, just take it all sorts of notes.

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Speaker 7: I was, you know, I actually had it on.

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Speaker 6: And then once they dominated, I'm like, I'm not why

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Speaker 6: it was like twenty one nothing.

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Speaker 7: At one point, I'm like to get this crap off.

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Speaker 7: I can't believe.

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Speaker 5: It's funny though. It was like the first quarter was terrible, right,

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Speaker 5: it was punt punt.

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Speaker 7: I don't I don't believe that this is bringing in

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Speaker 7: major ratings. I have to show me.

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Speaker 5: You don't think it matters.

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Speaker 7: Do the math? Well, I guess they're making money, but.

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Speaker 3: That's just it, right, It's a TV show. It's like

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Speaker 3: all all the rest of it, right, So I mean,

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Speaker 3: we can start with the bowl games. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: winning him here in a moment. Pete Futec College Football

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Speaker 3: News will join us in about twenty minutes from now. Uh,

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Speaker 3: talk about this hiring and and all that's going on

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Speaker 3: in Bowl season as we get ready for the Elite

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Speaker 3: Eight next week. But you know, talking about the the

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Speaker 3: Bowl games and you know a lot of hand ringing,

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Speaker 3: of hand, as we've watched in many of these Bowl games.

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Speaker 3: One decision here or there, you know, Northwestern not kicking

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Speaker 3: lot of folks holding tickets in states all over this this.

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Speaker 6: Well, just if you're talking damn like, look, the game

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Speaker 7: Bowl games too, they're so meaningless. It really doesn't make

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Speaker 5: Other than meane to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, tell that to the alums, Tell that to the administration,

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Speaker 3: Tell that to nobody's the conference where the money flows

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Speaker 3: back in off of the share that they get from

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Speaker 7: Nobody's spent go to that game.

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Speaker 6: Nobody said, I gotta go ahead and see, uh, Northwestern

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Speaker 6: it's not happy and no offense against those schools. It's

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Speaker 6: most of the ball games are like that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: just not gonna work that way.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's the change that is inevitable in terms

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Speaker 3: of condensing these it would seem based on the way

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Speaker 3: the playoffs have taken over and will continue to expand.

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Speaker 3: But in the end, if you if you're still in

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Speaker 3: the black, even if it's a smaller number, don't you

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Speaker 3: continue to do it?

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Speaker 6: No, because again, too many people. You see all the

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Speaker 6: people opting out. It's starting to get absolutely crazy, coaches leaving.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know who's coaching, who's not core.

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Speaker 3: But you can't tell me anybody's going to a bowl

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Speaker 6: No, well, yeah, it's mostly they're stars that are opting out, though, Mike,

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Speaker 6: And it's just it's it's happening way too much. How

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Speaker 6: many teams didn't even want to go to a bowl

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Speaker 6: game this year? What four or five you leave?

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame alone. They're still crying over in the court.

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Speaker 6: But that's also Iowa State, Kansas State. I believe it's

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Speaker 6: just it's become too much and it coused a lot

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Speaker 6: it's just not worth it anymore. We've we've passed it. Look,

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Speaker 6: you've got to evolve, and that's that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 6: That's why we have a playoff.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: We'll go from sixteen to twenty four and probably eventually

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Speaker 7: But we don't need these ball games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we get to thirty seven, that would be a

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Speaker 5: Dead and gone before that happens.

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Speaker 3: According to the report, they had nearly twenty eight thousand

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Speaker 7: They must have counted everybody three times. Then what could

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Speaker 3: Perhaps they did it sold versus those that attended versus

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Speaker 3: of that to say is it's still a TV show,

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Speaker 3: it's still live programming for three three hours, and if

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Speaker 3: financially it was absolutely not worth it to all the

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Speaker 7: But it's not going away like you said.

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Speaker 5: It's like I said, someone's making money.

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Speaker 3: Even if someone is making money but playing it there

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Speaker 3: they're bleeding left and right. This is when we get

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Speaker 5: It's like, we didn't make any money. It's like how

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Speaker 5: many listeners.

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Speaker 6: You think watch that game from start to finish? Saying

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Speaker 6: And I'll even give you the people that made a

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Speaker 5: The Generally people that bet don't, they might not look

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Speaker 7: So I just don't think there was much interest. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 6: And again that's I think that's what ninety percent of

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Speaker 6: what people want to see. That's what people are talking about,

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Speaker 6: and we still are.

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Speaker 5: That people are getting on board that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, people were complaining about James Madison and Tulane

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Speaker 7: So we're still working on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's always going to be tweaks. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's a system that because you've got so many powers

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Speaker 5: Let's go through.

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Speaker 3: And then certainly the ratings and the game results didn't

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Speaker 5: NFL wins you you know, you say.

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Speaker 6: That people are still watching these Bowl games. Only five

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Speaker 6: that's a playoff game and it's.

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Speaker 5: Five million people on a Saturday night in the holidays.

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Speaker 7: Well it went up against the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And I love Lucy sixty years ago.

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Speaker 6: You know, look at the you know what so funny

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Speaker 6: you laugh at that if you look at like a

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Speaker 6: Thursday night ratings, unlike the sitcoms, and that's for ABC, CBS, NBC.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Fox was around at the time. They're

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Speaker 6: they're just like they're.

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Speaker 5: Monster talking thirty ratings.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thirty, I mean that that's mind blowing.

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Speaker 6: And we're talking about like ten shows of that those

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Speaker 7: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's a long time ago. That's a

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Speaker 7: Yes, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, buddy, I gotta call it what it is now.

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Speaker 3: You're so fractured. Add to the fact that you have

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Speaker 3: to figure out how much is noise? Right, just like

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Speaker 3: that twenty eight thousand attendance for the ford Field Bowl

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Speaker 3: game today. But when we get into the fractionalization of

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Speaker 3: in terms of streaming and how you consume thing and

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Speaker 3: when when it counts? Right, if I watch it a

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Speaker 3: week after premieres, how does does it count differently? Because

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Speaker 3: So it's it's just curiosity. Like we got beat Futech

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Speaker 5: How do you do that? You win? And that's what

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Speaker 7: He was winning at Utah.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's just did he's been there a minute.

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Speaker 5: Seed their life. Savers.

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Speaker 3: See, there's a reference, you know, because that goes all

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Speaker 7: You're right, finally, you go.

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Speaker 7: At Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: But Jack, she brought up a good point that Irvin

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Speaker 6: So I think Michigan fans are probably really happy.

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Speaker 7: I just saw that.

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Speaker 5: Did he go there anyway?

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Speaker 3: Because as bad as it was, it was a nine

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Speaker 7: Are you not an Underwood fan, then I take that year.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm saying there's room for growth.

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Speaker 6: He's gone anyway, so they're gonna have to get the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: You're right, he's not officially gone.

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Speaker 6: I thought when he first had edited the portal that

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Speaker 5: Tacking genius one.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Fete, how you doing? My friend? It's good to

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Speaker 6: This has got to be a great hire for you

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Speaker 8: And then have it looked like, oh, well, you know this,

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Speaker 8: But yeah, Kyle winning him all along. I mean he

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Speaker 8: I want to you know, I want a bigger gigs

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Speaker 8: So let's see what he can do with just a

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Speaker 8: little tweak in here, Pete.

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Speaker 5: That was one of the things we're talking about a

444
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Speaker 5: little bit before.

445
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Speaker 3: When you're talking about age, who cares everybody job hops.

446
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Speaker 3: Very few guys are like winning him where you're at

447
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: a place for twenty years. But the other part is

448
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: that he's not a Michigan guy. So it's a fresh

449
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Speaker 3: set of eyes and nobody that can be touched tangentially

450
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Speaker 3: or substantively by what's going on these last few years.

451
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, So, I mean, look, first of all, being a

452
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Speaker 8: Michigan guy, I means do you have a whole lot

453
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Speaker 8: losing in there? Before? You know, he actually started winning,

454
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Speaker 8: so uh yeah, you know who cares all the sausages?

455
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 8: Maybe guy national title under Harbaugh and all that. So yeah,

456
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 8: you got you want to fresh start and you know,

457
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Speaker 8: outside of you know the basic you know, normal you know,

458
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 8: big college little stuff here and there, there hasn't been

459
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Speaker 8: a whiff of scandal at Utah. There's no issues there.

460
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Speaker 8: And I go on a bunch of radio stations in

461
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Speaker 8: Utah just over the years, and I've always confided what

462
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Speaker 8: he's been doing to being like a big, big ten

463
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Speaker 8: program like he made Utah essentially the new Wisconsin back

464
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Speaker 8: when Wisconsin was Wisconsin, where big guys on the line,

465
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Speaker 8: you don't screw up on penalties or turnovers, you win

466
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Speaker 8: the time possession battle, You run, run, run. You have

467
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Speaker 8: guys up front who are more powerful than everyone else,

468
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Speaker 8: play tough defense, and that's possible to do if you

469
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Speaker 8: have an ulti culture discipline team. And the side that

470
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Speaker 8: they were able to get worked great. They made a

471
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Speaker 8: tweak to more of a pro style offense. Unfortunately they

472
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Speaker 8: had a hard time finding the right quarterback with Cam

473
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Speaker 8: Rising always hurt. So now let's see what they do.

474
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Speaker 8: I can't imagine if Brice Underwood takes off, and if

475
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Speaker 8: he does find just go get another quarterback, because again

476
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Speaker 8: you're Michigan pretty much get whatever you want there.

477
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Kim Rising does have another year left.

478
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Speaker 8: I saw that. It's crazy.

479
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Speaker 6: Is that that's but let me ask you about Underwood.

480
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Speaker 6: I thought he was going to leave. What did you

481
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Speaker 6: think about him when when he signed a year ago?

482
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Speaker 6: And what do you think about him right now? It

483
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Speaker 6: doesn't sound like you're really would be broken up if

484
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Speaker 6: he ended up leaving.

485
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Speaker 8: I'm not broke. I mean really, it's about just the

486
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 8: position and the program, and you can get quarterbacks that

487
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 8: there's so many quarterbacks out there in the system, right,

488
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Speaker 8: It's so crazy all these guys who are jumping into

489
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Speaker 8: the portal, Like where do they think they're going to go?

490
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 8: Like there are only so many jobs that are open,

491
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 8: and okay, so maybe they're looking for extra money. Maybe

492
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Speaker 8: they're looking for the deal like Darius meant to got

493
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 8: last year jumping from Tulane to Duke and you know,

494
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Speaker 8: got paid a big ton of money and hey, won

495
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Speaker 8: an ACC championship. He was really good for the Blue Devils.

496
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Speaker 8: Maybe that's what some of these guys are looking for.

497
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Speaker 8: But all these guys are in the portal. Okay, well,

498
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Speaker 8: let's see if they can fit certain places. And then

499
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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, what happens. Do you have a

500
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Speaker 8: Trinidad Chambliss or someone like that who comes from out

501
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Speaker 8: of nowhere and is one of the Heisman favorites, or

502
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 8: even Trenando Mendozo was a hot prospect but definitely not

503
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Speaker 8: quite this so you never quite know. And so all

504
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Speaker 8: these big time guys who you have all the talent

505
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Speaker 8: in the world. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,

506
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Speaker 8: sometimes you have a guy like Dante Moore who wasn't

507
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Speaker 8: really that great at UCLA, came back set for a year,

508
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, boom it works. So but

509
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Speaker 8: I don't fail that to say that I don't think

510
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Speaker 8: Underwood would leave.

511
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Speaker 3: Now, Jason Smith show with me, Mike Harman, the venerable

512
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Speaker 3: Arnie Span you're in for Jason Smith. Pete deferred to

513
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Speaker 3: him like you know, all non Western cultures to their elders.

514
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Speaker 3: The way this thing started at College Football News is

515
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Speaker 3: where you find him at Pete futec Pete. Let's go

516
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 3: to the world of litigation, where you've got Pavia looking

517
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: to get himself extra year. Going off to James Nausey

518
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: move drafted in twenty twenty three to the NBA Draft, traded,

519
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: his rights are part were conferred to the Knicks, and

520
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: now he's gonna go become a Baylor Bear. Why do

521
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: you think this plays out? And did his heisman Shenanigans costume?

522
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Speaker 8: I don't have the problem with that. The heisman thing is,

523
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 8: you know, just immature. Okay, fine, but I kind of

524
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 8: you know, he basically did what every Heisman loser really thinks.

525
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 8: They just don't say it out loud. But that's of

526
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 8: course you see to look at like Peyton Manning's face

527
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Speaker 8: or you know, some of these other guys who thought

528
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Speaker 8: they were gonna win and didn't even though he wasn't

529
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Speaker 8: gonna win the heids of this year Pavio. So yeah,

530
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Speaker 8: there's a little delusion there, but yeah, I'm gonna they're

531
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Speaker 8: still you know, relatively young kids, you know, to the

532
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Speaker 8: most parts of probably who's like what forty two at

533
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Speaker 8: this point, I mean, it's uh, good, go get a

534
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 8: job already, I guess, or just stay or just stay

535
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Speaker 8: in college as long as you can. But I get it,

536
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Speaker 8: you know, I would be not looking back. I'd love

537
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 8: to be back in college and live the life. You

538
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 8: know again, who.

539
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Speaker 3: Did John Jugar Mellencamp hold on to sixteen as long

540
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Speaker 3: as you can.

541
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Speaker 8: Especially getting paid for it now, I mean, like it's

542
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 8: a great deal. I mean, you get paid more than

543
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 8: you get paid as an NFL rookie. So I get it.

544
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 8: So give it a shot, see what you can do.

545
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 8: But at some point this is getting kind of ridiculous.

546
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 8: Like I still think the most. The craziest part through

547
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 8: all this is during this bowl season, a lot of

548
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 8: teams had to opt out. Why because they couldn't find

549
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 8: their players? Yeah, because they scattered. And like when this happened,

550
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 8: every other college kid on the planet was studying for finals.

551
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 8: Like you're so these guys aren't like studying for finals.

552
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 8: You can't grab enough students. Who are you know, college

553
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 8: students to play college football. I mean, so it's just like,

554
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 8: come on, It's just it's just getting kind of ridiculous

555
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 8: at this point when you get guys who just won't leave.

556
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Pete.

557
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 6: Of course, before I say, oh, let's break down the

558
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 6: playoffs in the Miami Ohio State and Oregon Texas Tech

559
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, if I told you we're gonna

560
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Speaker 6: spend the next twenty minutes breaking down f IU in

561
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Speaker 6: Texas San Antonio and then switch over to the Central

562
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 6: Michigan Northwestern game and then Minnesota New Mexico, you're gonna

563
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 6: hang up the phone on me.

564
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Speaker 7: Enough is enough, Pete? Enough enough?

565
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Speaker 3: I don't care if thanky Pete, Yeah, perfect, but.

566
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Speaker 8: You over Repete.

567
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 6: No, enough is enough. Nobody cares about the game. I

568
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 6: really don't believe that it has television numbers.

569
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Speaker 7: Nobody's going to the game.

570
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Speaker 6: They tried to tell me that twenty three thousand or

571
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Speaker 6: at the Northwestern game.

572
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Speaker 7: I'm not buying it.

573
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 6: I just don't think we need it anymore, especially when

574
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Speaker 6: we started expanding the playoffs. I mean, seriously, Pete, anybody

575
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 6: asking you to break down any of these or any

576
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Speaker 6: of these other Bowl games.

577
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Speaker 7: I mean, tomorrow, we got a whole slew of them.

578
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Speaker 7: Not what makes a different? Does not one care you

579
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 7: care about? Bete?

580
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 8: Well, but there's here's the thing. Yet, we kind of

581
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 8: maybe care about Clemson ten State if you're you know,

582
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 8: a national, but there's so many of them. And look,

583
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 8: what else are you gonna do? Talk to your family?

584
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 8: I mean, what else you got going on? I mean,

585
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 8: especially if you live in a place that's cold. I mean,

586
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 8: you know, there's nothing to do. You're you're gonna watch

587
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 8: you know another you know, the born identity marathon that

588
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 8: keeps happening on start. I mean, like, look, here's the thing.

589
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 8: First of all, the problem is these bowl games, unlike

590
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 8: that other than the Hawaii Bowl and this uh uh

591
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 8: uh the Rake Ball between New Mexico and Minnesota, these

592
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 8: Bowl games have been awful. So the big the bigger

593
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 8: problem is that just you know, who's watching these things?

594
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 8: Who's staying watching these things because they're just so bad

595
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 8: and there's no real reason for it, because last year

596
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 8: they were really good, Like every game was competitive, every game.

597
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 8: I mean, it's not like they're not trying or anything,

598
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 8: but you just have so many disjointed teams with so

599
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 8: many coaches who are gone, so many players who are

600
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 8: you know, missmatch of players who are going. So it's

601
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 8: just fun. It's like, you know, trying to handicap preseason games.

602
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 8: But like I said, who's watching these things? I can

603
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 8: tell you a very large stegment of the public to

604
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 8: try to pay off their holiday gift giving. What's going

605
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 8: on as we speak.

606
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: Exactly, And Pete does spots all over the country, so

607
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: he's got to know everything about Central Michigan and teams

608
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: of that. Ill all right, Pete, So really quickly as

609
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: we get to the playoffs, you still got some days

610
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: to chop this up. What stands out amongst the four games,

611
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of where you're looking for an

612
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: upset and maybe a little bit of chaos.

613
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Speaker 8: I'm look, I'm Texas Tech I'm really curious about it.

614
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 8: It's gonna be about the pass rushing all these games.

615
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 8: I don't think, oh, this is going to have what

616
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 8: it takes to hang with Georgia. It's just they got

617
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 8: their fun out of the way. They got their exorcism

618
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 8: of Layne Kiffin against Kalaane. Uh so now they got

619
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Speaker 8: the win. It's a it's been a good, good run.

620
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 8: I think they have a problem with Georgia. I mean,

621
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Speaker 8: the problem with Indiana Alabama is it's still Alabama. It's

622
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Speaker 8: just hard. I don't care if you can analyze it

623
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Speaker 8: to death or yeah, of course Indiana should beat this

624
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 8: Alabama team, and isn't that great. It's still Indiana versus Alabama.

625
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 8: It's just hard. But I do think Indiana pulls that off.

626
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 8: So the real key is here the pass rush. For

627
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 8: we all the NFL talent on the Miami defensive front

628
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 8: and all the talent on the Texas Tech defensive front,

629
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Speaker 8: can those can that be the neutralizing factor against these

630
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Speaker 8: Big ten teams? And I honestly don't think anybody watched

631
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Speaker 8: one Texas Tech game this year. I sure know if

632
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 8: the College Football Playoff Committee didn't until the Big Twelve

633
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 8: championships is like, oh wow, that's that seems like a yeah,

634
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 8: this team is really good. You know, it's almost it's

635
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 8: it's got the talent. I don't know if it has

636
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 8: the quarterback situation. Barry Morton's a nice veteran. I don't

637
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 8: think he's quite there. And now it's about the big ten.

638
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 8: I mean, look, Ohio State, Indiana, and in Oregon. They

639
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 8: could pretty much set the tone for the rest of

640
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 8: college football by being like, all right, we only got

641
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 8: a few teams in, but all of them are pretty

642
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 8: good and let's see what they do going forward.

643
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, for Texas Tech, it just means they need a

644
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: better lobbyist in that room for next year.

645
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Speaker 2: Pete.

646
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Speaker 8: You know what the funniest the highest part about that

647
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 8: is also is that everyone's act be all, well, this

648
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 8: is the best team money can buy, like compared to Alabama,

649
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 8: like compared to like Oregon, who is like the forefront

650
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 8: of you know, sports marketing, and they look, it's all legal,

651
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 8: it's all above board now. But oh well, they bought

652
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 8: themselves a team so everyone could do that. Everyone could

653
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 8: have had David Bailey, Romelo Heighten, great players of Texas

654
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 8: Tech got They just did it really well this year,

655
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 8: or you go.

656
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Speaker 3: Back in time and start comparing them to teams from Alabama,

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Speaker 3: Georgia and others of the past. At Pete few Tech,

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Speaker 3: where you find him on Twitter, Pete, enjoy the holiday

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Speaker 3: run blessed times with you and your family, and we appreciate.

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Speaker 5: You being part of the show.

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Speaker 8: I'm going guy.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, He's the best. Joints is each and every week

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Speaker 3: on the hotline. College footballnews dot com is the website.

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Speaker 3: He's a steaking genius. At Arnie Spanners, you see how

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Speaker 3: excited he was to talk to you, Well, she went

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Speaker 3: straight to me. I felt offended. Let's go over to

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Speaker 3: the news desk to a man who is above reproach,

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Speaker 3: a man that we all tower in his presence because

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Speaker 3: he's so mighty.

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Speaker 6: I gave you.

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Speaker 5: Gave him yesterday off I did, and yet I still worked.

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Speaker 10: By the way, as you brought up that I'm sitting

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Speaker 10: at a newsdesk, I'm glad you brought that up. The

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Speaker 10: reaction to Arnie appearing on the show tonight by the

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Speaker 10: guest was Pete, which just went.

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Speaker 5: Nuts at the beginning. The greatest thing, ever.

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Speaker 7: How about that I'm a pretty big deal. Just ask me.

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Speaker 10: That is the definition of news. Nobody has reacted to

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Speaker 10: Argy like that way. In the Lay Bowl game tonight

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Speaker 10: in Dallas, ut San Antonio is still up thirty one

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Speaker 10: fourteen over Florida International, which about fifty yards passing fifty

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Speaker 10: yards rushing. UTSA was actually down fourteen to nothing early

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Speaker 10: in this one, including giving up a punt return TD

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Speaker 10: in Phoenix, Minnesota in overtime beat New Mexico twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 10: Northwestern beat Central Michigan thirty four to seven. In Detroit.

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Speaker 10: The Wildcats led seven nothing late first tap. They have

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Speaker 10: won six straight bowl games. There are eight bowl games

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Speaker 10: on Saturday, including Penn State at Yankee Stadium against Clemson

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Speaker 10: and at Fenway Pack It's Yukon against Army.

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Speaker 5: It is official.

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Speaker 10: Michigan's new head football coach is Kyle Whittingham from Utah,

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Speaker 10: where he spent the last twenty one years. There are

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Speaker 10: two NFL games on Saturday, Texans at Chargers and then

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Speaker 10: Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love will not

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Speaker 10: play Saturday night due to his concussion, so Malik Willis

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Speaker 10: will start, but he's been limited at practice this week

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Speaker 10: with the shore shoulder and quarterback for the ravens. Lamar

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Speaker 10: Jackson doubtful for the game with the bruise back, so

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Speaker 10: Tyler Huntley could start the big game Sunday on five,

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia at Buffalo. For the Eagles, linebacker Nikobe Dean out

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Speaker 10: with a hamstring injury. Tackle Lane Johnson still out with

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Speaker 10: a foot injury. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen is due to

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Speaker 10: play despite a foot injury. He practiced fully today. Buffalo

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Speaker 10: kicker Matt Crater is still out with a quad injury.

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Speaker 10: The Patriots say there's still a chance running back Traveon

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Speaker 10: Henderson plays Sunday after a concussion last week, but they'll

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Speaker 10: be missing two injured wide receivers. The Raiders will not

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Speaker 10: play defensive end Max Crosby on Sunday against the Giants

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Speaker 10: due to a knee injury, and tight end Brock Bowers

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Speaker 10: is on ir Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt will miss

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Speaker 10: another game this weekend after the lung injury. Butt linebacker

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Speaker 10: Nick Herbig does return. In the NBA, Boston won at

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Speaker 10: Indiana won forty to one twenty two. Jalen Brown thirty points,

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Speaker 10: his eight straight thirty point game Chicago over Philadelphia thanks

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Speaker 10: to a ten oh run at the end one O nine,

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Speaker 10: one two, despite thirty one points from Joel Embiid at Memphis,

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Speaker 10: tennisist for John Morant in a win against Milwaukee, victories

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Speaker 10: from Miami, Charlotte and Washington, which was five and twenty

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Speaker 10: three geez but shot fifty nine percent from the floor,

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Speaker 10: and rep Toronto one thirty eight to one seventeen. Wow,

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Speaker 10: they've just gone. Final Phoenix wins at New Orleans one

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Speaker 10: fifteen to one oh eight, thirty points for Devin Booker

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Speaker 10: halftime Detroit with a record of twenty four and six

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Speaker 10: lead sixty eight sixty seven at Utah and the late

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Speaker 10: game through one quarter at Portland as the Blazers head

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Speaker 10: of the Clippers thirty five to twenty five. College basketball,

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Speaker 10: still on Christmas, break back to.

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Speaker 3: You, appreciate you. That's Steve di Seger at the news desk.

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Speaker 3: We got Ian, we got Alex, We've got Shay in

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Speaker 3: the back, and of course that's the stinking genius over

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Speaker 3: there already. Span you'ro ount Mike Carment, thanks for being

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Speaker 3: with us here tonight as you celebrate the holidays. If

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Speaker 3: you're on the roads, be smart, be safe, weather all

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Speaker 3: test when you're you're doing your driving test. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: was all over the roadway. So let's be smart out

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Speaker 3: there people as we go, hey, and as you're doing that,

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Speaker 3: should be. As we continue, we'll take a stay in

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Speaker 3: the NBA for a minute. Steve gave you some updates

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Speaker 3: from the games. I want to talk about what happened

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Speaker 3: last night. As we were getting off the air, clips

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Speaker 3: started circulating of a certain coach who has an issue

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Speaker 3: with my usual co host. They got beef. Maybe we

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Speaker 3: can revisit that coming up next here on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: I celebrate Dua Lipa's entire catalog. Welcome back in Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon. Of course,

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Speaker 3: that's out in John and that's Arnie Spanner over there.

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Speaker 3: He's hanging out with us tonight at Stinking Genius one

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Speaker 3: where you find him find me over at Swollen Dome. Now,

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Speaker 3: as we got off the air yesterday, we'd had the

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Speaker 3: chaos that was the latest Laker debacle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, oh that was crazy.

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Speaker 3: As they got drummed by the Houston Rockets. Rockets now

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Speaker 3: eighteen and ten, second in the Southwest Division, but resplendent,

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Speaker 3: resounding victory over the Lakers, an absolute beat down. One

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six was your final. So you're just seeing

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Speaker 3: as it's starting to unravel a little bit, play some

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Speaker 3: cupcakes early, put up some big points and well it's

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Speaker 3: been some tough sledding these last couple of weeks. Austin

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Speaker 3: Reeves is hurt, might miss a month, maybe more as

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Speaker 3: he reinjured. Once you start getting into calf injuries, everybody

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Speaker 3: gets a little bit nervous and you gotta give it,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you say I didn't know it was.

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Speaker 7: Gonna be a month, geez, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, but you're also going to air on the side

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Speaker 3: of caution because we've seen how quickly that leads to

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Speaker 3: other more disastrous and harmful long standing issues. And Reeves

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Speaker 3: was a guy that was becoming a star, a lot

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Speaker 3: of folks really getting excited about what he and Luca

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Speaker 3: can be. We should be noted during this current slide.

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Speaker 3: Luca his shooting percentage is down six percent, defensive ratings whatever.

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Speaker 3: I kind of chuckle whenever we talk about the Lakers

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Speaker 3: because I said the word defense, so we kind of

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Speaker 3: you know, Lebron is basically a one end of the

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Speaker 3: court player at this point. He's ola defense would not

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Speaker 3: even begin to describe it oftentimes, and then he stays

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Speaker 3: behind crying for a fall to where it becomes a

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Speaker 3: five on four break the other way. Plenty of incidences

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Speaker 3: of those in this three and six range that they've

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Speaker 3: been going to this during this recent slide where they're

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Speaker 3: getting blown out a bunch arny and well, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to say this.

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Speaker 6: Out of the sixteen teams that are in the playoffs

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Speaker 6: right now, the Lakers are the only team that are

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Speaker 6: in the in the red in the negative scoring differential.

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Speaker 6: Everybody else is in the green. It's in the plus.

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Speaker 6: You know, take that for what it's worth. But you

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Speaker 6: could tell they're starting to go backwards. They've lost three

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Speaker 6: in a row, as you mentioned, the Reeves injury, and

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Speaker 6: it's certainly not going to get better with Lebron's defense.

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Speaker 7: He's just a bad defender right now. That's just the

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Speaker 7: way it is, Mike. There's no way to sugar coated.

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Speaker 7: The guy just can't play defense.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hear from JJ Raddick, who once took on

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Speaker 3: Jason Smith as he referenced just some random account you

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Speaker 3: know at Jason Smith blank blank blank, and we were

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Speaker 3: on air Ian Roddy are executive producers producer tonight. He

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Speaker 3: was in the back and he heard it live and went,

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Speaker 3: wait did he just say it like? And it became

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Speaker 3: obviously a fixture of the show. Hi, JJ, because we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do it again with what he had to say yesterday.

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Speaker 11: The two words of the day we're effort in execution,

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Speaker 11: and you know, I feel like when we've done both

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Speaker 11: of those things at a high level, we've been a

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Speaker 11: good basketball team and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.

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Speaker 11: And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that

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Speaker 11: started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now.

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Speaker 11: And that's that's the part that bothers you a lot.

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Speaker 11: We don't care enough to like do the things that

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Speaker 11: are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had it, We had it.

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Speaker 11: This is this is I always say this about you know, culture,

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Speaker 11: I always say this about a team being a you know,

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Speaker 11: a good team, being a functioning organism, organism. Can it

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Speaker 11: can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,

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Speaker 11: it goes back to what I said the other night.

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Speaker 11: It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too

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Speaker 11: often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.

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Speaker 11: And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so

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Speaker 11: Saturday practice I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable,

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Speaker 11: the meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing

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Speaker 11: another fifty three games like this.

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Speaker 3: So another beat down, and this one has become like

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Speaker 3: one of those the old Spider Man meme, because now

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Speaker 3: it's old.

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Speaker 5: It's actually right.

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Speaker 3: They want to get each other because, you know, you've

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Speaker 3: got Reddick saying that stuff, and what swirled up on

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Speaker 3: the interwebs was when he was back as an ESPN analyst,

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Speaker 3: where it was a lot of excuse making, and there's

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Speaker 3: a fine line sometimes between reasons and excuses. You could

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Speaker 3: say the rosters hampered by the fact that Lebron opted in.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the Lakers' worst case scenario to everything,

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Speaker 3: when he opted in to get his fifty three million

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Speaker 3: dollars for the year, because look, if you really wanted

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Speaker 3: to go win, go somewhere else, go be their guy. Instead,

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Speaker 3: he comes back and it bogs things down. We talk

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Speaker 3: about defensive effort, but it's now swirling and because he's

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Speaker 3: not calling out any of the role players in terms

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Speaker 3: of effort and execution.

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Speaker 6: I had no problem with what JJ said. I know

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Speaker 6: we're short on time, so maybe we could pick it

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Speaker 6: up next hour, but I have no problem what he said,

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Speaker 6: how he said it, And if people want him to

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Speaker 6: point fingers, that's behind the closed doors.

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Speaker 3: We'll do some more of that as we continue, as

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Speaker 3: well as a little bit of Pete Carroll and they

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Speaker 3: sent their star player home, he was not happy.

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Speaker 5: That's next on Fox