WEBVTT - #485 - Jelly Roll 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.560 Yo Bootleg cav podcast, Yes on the Road with Jelly Roll. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:09.520 Baby The Road with the Role Dude. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.840 First of all, Man, congratulations a new album. I text 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.400 you this, but I truly feel I know it's, you know, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.400 coming from the hip hop side of things to say classic. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.800 When I hear a project a couple of times straight through, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.120 I feel like this is a classic body of work. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:24.120 We're gonna come back at this. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.239 I'm super proud of it. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:26.680 Dude. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:28.800 It's the most time I've ever spent on a single 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:29.240 body of. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.640 Work and it's twenty eight songs, but it's. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.320 A lot of meat. Dude. I wrote like one hundred 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.680 and fifty, one hundred and sixty or something. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.800 It's so crazy because even if like I go back 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.680 to like your old school shit, like your songwriting to 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.199 me has always been pretty superior in terms of like 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.520 your ability to write certain hooks, like you know, thinking 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:53.479 back to like Sunday Morning or smoking section. But it 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.639 feels like the song writing has just like it's like 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.880 it's hit its peak. Like I feel like you're in 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:01.760 your prime with the pen right now. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.960 I think I'm getting close. I don't think I'm there yet. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.959 I think i'm because I'm starting to like learn more 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.840 about music too. Yeah, So the more I understand how 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.880 the top line, like the lyrics side of what I 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.120 do works with the music side of what's happening under it, 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.959 the more dangerous I'm getting with understanding how this all 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:18.600 works together. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:18.840 You know. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.160 Yeah, it's interesting too because like I think of a song, like, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.160 first of all, you kicked the album off with winning streak, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.280 which is crazy because I grew up going to NA 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.680 and AA meetings. My uncle had a drug rehab and 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.920 he is recovering addict. My dad's a recovering addict. So 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.680 I some my summer job used to be to sit 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.720 in the back of those meetings. Wow, as like a 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.280 fourteen or fifteen year old wow, collect people's stuff, you know, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.440 like because it was it was a part of like 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.080 a people who are on probation. You know. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.200 Did you understand at that age how impactful what was 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.240 happening in front of you was? 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:51.560 Or no? 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.240 I think so, man, because you would just see people 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.400 break down and like, I know, you know, I was like, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.080 I never have touched any like I would say hard. Oh, 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.600 I've dounch rooms and weed and you know, a little 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.640 bit of molly but I've never like putting none up 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.239 my nose and shit because of like the I've seen 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.799 it with my own eyes, Like right, you know, you. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.359 Know the dangers of you got to see it. It's 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.239 absolute worse. It's crazy that you got to see the 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.560 impact and understood the impact at that age too, because 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.920 something what's happened in those rooms, it's magical at times. Man, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.519 it's also hilarious. I've heard some of the funniest stories 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.480 of my life ever in those rooms. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.600 How because I heard you talk about it a little 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.560 bit on Joe, But like, how often do you try 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.160 to get into a meeting and like, at this point 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.400 your jelly roll, So I can only imagine you walking 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:38.160 into a meeting. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.359 Nah, Man, That's kind of one of the cool things 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.880 about going to a meeting is they take the anonymous 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.320 side of that really serious. So that's why I don't 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.960 That's why I haven't talked a lot about it, because 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.680 I don't know how much they would want me sharing 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.800 what happens in those rooms or not. Dude, you know, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.600 but it's just so magical. But uh, yeah, man, that's 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.200 the cool thing is that never bothered at all, man, Yeah, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.520 never bothered at all anytime you go, man, just you know, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.160 you're just another addict or just another alcoholic to them. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.080 That's how they look at you. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:04.320 Man. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:09.480 It just really humiliation, really this thing of humiliation that 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.800 happens in there in a way of like humbling, like 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.640 in a good way of like, no matter how great 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.600 we're doing today, we always reduce ourselves to know that 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.320 we're still that addict at heart, so we could that 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.040 any moment, this thing could go left for us, and 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.840 it is what keeps people in constant gratitude. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.560 I was gonna ask you, man, but to answer. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.120 Your question, because I hate avoiding questions as much as 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.639 I can go right, you know these days a few 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.200 a year, you know what I mean, ten a year, maybe. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.240 What has there been, like any specific feedback you've gotten 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.600 from that song and just being like wow, someone because 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.600 I can't recall someone who's tackled that experience on a record, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.720 let alone kicking kicking off an album. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.840 You know, yeah, it's been cool, man. I haven't I 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.200 haven't got I've been sub dude. I hate to admit this. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.400 I've been so in the vortex of this thing right here. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.280 Yeah, I hadn't. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.560 Even just today took the time to look at like critical. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.720 Reviews of my album? 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.400 You know what I mean about that? 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.400 No, not at all, but it just popped up on 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.880 my feed and I actually had time today to entertain it. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:11.480 I didn't go search for it. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.320 I just you know, it's like it's there and it's 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.040 album review and then you hit one and you know 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.360 how news feeds doing the Google, it just immediately gives 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.360 you the role and you're like, well, let me just 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.320 what did Pitchfork say? 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.320 What did Browne? So? 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.479 You know, and more than anything, it's not that I 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.680 care about it. I'm just still so new to this. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.920 I care that they cared, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:29.760 I don't care if you shop on the album. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.680 The fact that you took the time to review a 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.040 twenty eight song album that I put out, it's still 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.400 fucking insane to me. Did people care enough about what 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:39.760 I'm doing? You know? Yo? 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.359 Uh if by the time this comes out. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.360 Think about that somebody got paid. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.720 To listen to your music and give them like a. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.520 Real deal, like well thought out thought like dude, thank you. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:53.640 I'm honored. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.240 No, Like, I mean shit, growing up like and the 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.760 source was such a big deal when you like going 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.640 to look at the mics and but but again, it'd 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.360 be like just having people give a fuck from Pitchfork 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.400 or you know, if someone talked to you fifteen years ago, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.680 ten years ago, shit, eight years ago. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.320 One hunt, I would just be I would be so 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.159 excited that the review could have just been a shit 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.760 on me. And I've been like I'm getting reviewed, and 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.320 that's still how I feel now. So yeah, but I 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.760 just now I'm starting to see like the effects of 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.040 the music that's happened even past yesterday. I kind of 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.880 missed how big that moment was on TikTok. For the 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.600 first few days of like twelve fifteen, twenty thousand women 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.080 just sharing their story was crazy. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.920 Yeah, I know, it's it's crazy too because you the 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.160 success of that moment on TikTok is what kind of 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.359 it sped up you dropping the deluxe? 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:39.200 Yeah, exactly. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.040 We planned to drop the Deluxe, but it was like, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.680 I was gonna wait a few days or maybe even 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.480 a week and see if I needed to come back around. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.200 And I was kind of inspired by post Malone because 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.160 remember he dropped F one trillion and it had all 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.800 these features, and then he dropped like seven songs called 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.480 the Long Bed Edition right after with seven songs that. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:56.960 Were so low. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.120 I had these five like fire features come in the 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:00.880 bottom of the night. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.000 In it, like people showed up for me, like Halsey, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.039 Russ Keith, Urban Ernest, like all those features showed up 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.400 with for me, like within a week of releasing. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.760 Crazy now because I remember hearing you working on some 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.880 of these records, like at the beginning of the tour, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.279 just in a room backstage. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.039 Yeah, and like these we're still writing Beautifully Broken on 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.240 the Beautifully Broken tour. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.280 I never thought of it that way. Cam. That's right, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:26.680 that's true. 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.240 That's a great way to put it. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:29.520 That's why you're interview. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.039 If you're watching this, there's a good chance by the 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.080 time this is released, that you had the number one album, 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:35.560 your first number one album. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.720 Yes, it was either me or Rod Wave and it's 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.280 the battle is more than me and I'm happy for him. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.000 But it's crazy to think how far you've come. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:43.200 Bro. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.960 Like you know, I always say when I when I 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:53.719 think of music, you are an anomaly in terms of 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.760 your career path, Like this doesn't happen, I don't know 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.640 if it will ever happen again. I think that You've 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.280 always heard this from when you know, however many fifty 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.360 to one hundred or three or four hundred people cedars 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.600 you were doing. But I feel like what's always been 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.440 synonymous with you is when people meet you, they love 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.600 you right right, And I feel like that's just happening 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:20.160 now on a world worldly stage. Yes, and just talk 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.440 like how big of a deal is that? 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:21.560 Man? 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:22.960 Because the last album was number five? 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.080 Right? Yeah? I think last album was five, And I 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.520 was blown away that we were in that car. That's 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.040 what I was talking to Joe about. And I love 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:28.960 Joe's perspective. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.360 I needed it this week, Yeah, album week when Joe's like, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.080 don't worry about a number one out, dude, worry about 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.240 being jelly roll man. I'll stay at the sun. I've 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.240 got that'll stick with me forever. But for me, it's 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:39.960 still just like I guess, just. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.080 Being in the conversations are still so new to me. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.000 Like when I read the first time that charge hits whatever, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.360 David double drops and it goes jelly rolling rodwave with 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.400 an X amount of thousands of each other for what 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.880 could be first week number one, and. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.200 I'm a like enormous road wave man. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.400 He's like a huge rod like and as an artist, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.120 as a human, like how he's handled himself in critical 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.680 appeal and the songs and just what he stands for. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.360 And I feel like we're singing the exact same song, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.200 just over two different beds. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.160 Of music, right, you know what I mean? 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.960 You know it's a It's like I would say that 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.640 we're in the same house, just you know, we're in 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.160 different rooms, you know what I mean. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.840 That's what's happening right with Jelly Rolling rod Wave anyway. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.520 So just even being that kind of conversation with him 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.400 or Charlie XCX and like these like these. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:31.240 Are pop stars to me. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.720 Hey, you know this, you're a fucking pop star. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.559 That's crazy talk. That's that's crazy weep. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.520 It's funny. Every time we see each other after some time, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.240 we'll be like, Yo, it's getting weird, ain't it. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.679 It's getting weird, and it's getting weird. I'll admit that 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.520 to you though on and off camera. It's getting weird, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.240 but like in a good way. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.240 But it's but dude, it's like if if I'm watching 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.560 the Super Bowl and you're in a commercial, and then 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.760 I'm watching Summer Slam and you're fucking by the way 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.800 pulling off what what an amazing choke slamb. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.440 Listen it was I probably up there, Listen. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.000 I hate to say this. I'll get in trouble for 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.600 just saying this. I've had one of the best years ever. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.600 If I have a number one album this week, I've 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.360 had a number one album Saturday Night Live. I mean, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.400 I was invited to the Grammys for the first time 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:16.800 this year. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.400 This is all this year and I'm turning forty forty. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.440 I want to be forty this year, and I can 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.679 still tell you that I think Summer slim is probably 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:24.680 the coolest moment of the year. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:25.400 Oh for sure. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.120 It's just hard to beat. Dude. It's like the listen, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.160 I got slimmed. That's up there. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:30.720 That was cool. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:30.960 Yeah. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:32.960 But for me, these were big moments for me because 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.599 I've talked about this a little bit, but not the 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.960 way I really want to. It's like this was like 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.079 inner child moments for me, you know what I mean, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.160 Like as a kid who grew up in the system, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.240 and everybody knows my story. They're exhausted here and I 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.080 don't talk about it no more neither, But just knowing 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:52.040 where I'm from, I was by by some decisions I made, had. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.600 To grow up a little earlier than most people. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.840 Yeah, so because of that, I didn't you know what 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.880 I mean, Like, you bring me back and slim me, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.360 you circle back around and I get to choke slam 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.520 somebody and sugget to listen, and they brought me in 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:10.160 full face, just feeling off, just doing what they do best, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.520 just gracing them, just gracing and Austin just wiling people up. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.840 And I get to come in with a chair shot 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.480 and then listen, here's the shoot on and I shot on. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.200 I shot on a little bit with Logan, but here's 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.959 a real shoot on this. To giv Austin theory is 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:28.240 a hero in this. Grayson's a hero in this. MI 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:34.080 is our truth, dude, our truth. Is one of the 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.359 best humans on earth I've heard, one of the sweetest, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:38.439 most down to earth. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.920 What can I do to help you? Loving dudes? You 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.640 will ever meet. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:47.319 His His character where he confuses stuff is so hilarious. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.840 But like if that wasn't his character, that's a piece 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.480 of his soul anyways, Like just that lighthearted. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.160 Spiritedness of who he is. And I realized really early 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.080 when I was working with all of these dudes that 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.680 they were doing everything they could to make me look 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:02.839 as good as I could. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.160 Yeah, that whole jealous a little spoof he had. It 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.280 kind of sets you up, like like that first appearance 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.520 you did and he had the jelly. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.199 It's so good, dude, It's like it was cool man. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.560 So like that watching them rally and when you realize that, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.800 it gives you a whole new respect for wrestling. I 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.920 always say it to guys when they do when like, uh, 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.599 I tell Eric Church or guys. They don't know the 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.760 language sometimes, but I'm like man in the wrestling world 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.200 post Malone, when he put me on his album, I 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.520 was like, Yo, this is called giving me the rub, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.000 Like you're pulling me. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.720 Over right now. Yeah you know what I mean over 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.400 putting me over, dude. It's like you're giving me the 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:34.240 rub right now. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.080 And I realized that that's why that business has stayed 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.319 big for so many years. I wish music would steal 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.160 that from them, the idea of constantly trying to pull people, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.520 get people, help put people, constantly trying to put people over, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.800 constantly trying to give people the rub, like watching. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.080 I think you know, I think Drake did that for 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.080 a long time, you know. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.920 Because even in Austin's shoes, his idea was like, I know, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.000 I'm taking a bump here and listen, Austin is a 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.800 world class wrestler. He has no business allowing an overweight 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.480 musician choke slamming him on SummerSlam, you know what I mean. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.480 But he's but it's in his mind. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.440 It's like, no, this is what's best for all of 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.280 us in this moment, because if we all do this right, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.200 this clip could be big for all of us. This 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.040 could be big for the entire wrestling world. This could 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.360 be new eyeballs on wrestling. This could like this is 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.599 how they think of every decision they make back in 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.280 those locker rooms, and it's I admire it, dude, and 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.880 thank you for letting me come on here and get 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.240 to shoot on that a little more because it's like I'm. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:36.760 Now I'm also obsessed. I am ready in the backyard. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:37.679 Rumble in Tampa. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:38.400 Yeah. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.520 I was just there hanging. Yeah, you was with your son. Yeah, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.079 we were just there on some like whatever stuff. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.360 That's yo. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.120 It's interesting to see. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:53.200 That's something else I'm proud of. I've never been worked 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.600 into the show for any reason. But being a fan 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.679 of the show right because you're just there exactly. It 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.480 was never like a media thing or like business is 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.280 people together. This was real deal, Like, Hey, I'm coming 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.120 to Monday night Raw. Anyways, how early am I allowed 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:08.680 to get there? 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:09.920 And who can I meet? 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:10.800 And then when I'm. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.640 There and they see that I'm such a fan, they're like, man, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.440 we should work this dude in the show. Randy's the 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.920 home he sodom. I just met him, but he's just 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.360 immediately was like, oh this is I love this. Let's 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.800 do this, you know what I mean. He immediately was 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.200 like drawing into bringing me into the storyline with him, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.920 which was super super cool because he's seen that I 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.720 was a fan too, and he told me that afterwards. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.760 Randy was like, uh, He's like, it's a lot of 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.400 people to come through here that kind of know what 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.560 we're doing, but they're not necessarily as He's like, man, 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.360 just I admire the grace you showed back here, Like 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.040 the respect. I mean, you know, I walk around that 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.520 think and I had off like yo, I have a 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.160 lot of respect for what they do back there. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.360 Man, huge fucking wrestling fan, kah, huge wrestling fan. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.680 Talk to me about this moment we're in where there's 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:58.640 a lot of uh cross genre happening in the country direction, 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:04.480 And I feel like you're kind of the first person 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.240 that I that did it in a serious way. But 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.679 but but you kind of did it in a way 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.640 that was a lot a lot different than some of 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.160 the artists will see it now, Like you kind of 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.120 did it. You're an underground artist initially, right, like, and 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.160 then doing country was always something that was natural to you, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.240 but it's what changed your life. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.000 Right do you feel like the. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.680 Trend of the genre of country music is being like 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.680 it feels like everyone's doing country. It just kind and 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.200 like not necessarily from a place of like even being 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.440 a fan of the music, just it just feels like 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 it's the thing to do, Like, like from your perspective 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.880 as kind of being the first guy to kind of 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.920 people would look at you as a rapper initially right 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.920 to have all this success, Like from how you see it, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.520 how do you how do you see what's going on 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.680 right now with everybody kind of flocking to the genre. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.240 I think it's country music finally getting's turn. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.160 Yeah, my perspective, it is like we've actually got to 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.920 watch every other genre get its turn on critical mass, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.600 but never Country. There would be artists here and there 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.520 that would get big enough that, like, you know, country 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:16.239 has always been represented in critical masks, with the Grammys, Amas, VMA's, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.400 you know, all these different facets. But it's I think 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.880 it's just like the natural evolution of like it was 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.000 just kind of Country's turn. Finally, it was a great 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.040 time to be there. I think I have. I think 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.760 that the only thing I have to do with that 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.880 is luck of just waiting out long enough to be around, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.080 long enough to be there, you know what I mean. 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.520 It's kind of the John Cena story. The Seeing Punk 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.160 stories are kind of John Cena's just like it was 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.840 just he was just consistently there. You just always show 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.560 up and you're always there. It's like all of a 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.080 sudden you can you can eventually become the guys the last. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.720 I feel like you gave Post the rub. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.760 No Posts gave me the use. Well listen, Post is Post, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:55.080 but I. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.000 Feel like in this world like it's you giving him 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:57.320 the run. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.000 Yeah yeah, Well it's a weird thing, man. It's like 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.440 Post and Beyonce. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.840 What they did was just bringing a bigger spotlight to 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:09.000 what was already overwhelmingly like if country couldn't have got 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.120 any bigger, the two of the five biggest pop stars 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.240 on Earth was like, Hey, we're gonna go do country 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:15.040 albums this year. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:16.760 It's like it couldn't. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.720 Man, I sound silly when I talk like this, but 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.160 I really think when you look back at this ten 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.360 years from now, twenty years from now, it's going to 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.000 just continue to stand the test of time more and more. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.280 Like when you look back, we're talking about it in 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.640 real time and it's kind of blowing our mind. But 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.880 when they really look at this decade and what happened 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.680 with country music, and they're just like yeah, and Post 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.840 Malone dropped one of the biggest albums of the year 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.160 that year, and Beyonce it was a great album. Beyonce 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.080 got in the genre. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.880 And just by the way, the biggest song of the 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.520 year is the country song bar. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.960 Song, Yeah, well two years in a row now last 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.520 night was last year. The second biggest song of this 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:58.960 year was a Morgan Waham song. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.800 Crazy Years in a Row. Speaking of the Bar song 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:04.600 boy shameless. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.840 Plug here Shaboozy's coming on tour. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.320 Ka Boozy is on tour with Jelly Rawl. I love you, Shaboozie. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.200 Thank you Booze Man for picking my tour. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.520 No, that's that's special. You can have the number one album, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.240 the number one song on toy Man. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.119 Dude, it's like Booze Man, he could have kind of 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.639 like Warren on this tour. He could they could have. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.480 These are two guys that are white hot right now, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:25.520 especially Booze. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.120 I mean Booze is fish grease hot. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.680 I think eighteen weeks number one. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:31.840 It just broke the record for the you know what 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.480 I mean, like just took Little Knaves X record. I 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:35.919 mean crazy, It's unreal. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.880 And uh, he could have did a headliner. He could 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.880 have went out with anybody. He was like, No, I'm 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.639 into that jelly Roll tour. It's just awesome. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:44.760 Man. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.920 Just who Shaboozy is though? 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.280 Man, So you reach out to Glorila on Twitter. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:50.000 I love Glow. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.240 You guys dropped the same day. She's got a great 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.760 body and work out. Glorious. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.320 Yes, a lot of people. That's her government name, right, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.760 I believe I think I think I'm serious. I think 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.679 I think or something. No, I think her government name 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:03.320 is Glorious. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:04.320 That's amazing. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.960 Hold on the coach is looking it up. I bet 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.800 I'm right, Tennessee. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.240 That sounds about Gloria. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.960 Oh, you was right. It's Hallelujah. That's the part. Always 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.919 I thought it was glorious, but it's because of Gloria Hallelujah. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.640 That's what a what a name. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.120 I love Glow, man, I'm such a fan of Glow. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.320 I got to meet her at the iHeart Radio Wards. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.840 I got to meet with the iHeart Radio Awards, and 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.359 I had me and my wife had already posted tiktoks 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:32.840 to the song. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:34.439 You know, we're huge fans. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.240 I love Memphis music, growing up three six Mafia and 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.080 they'm being involved in me so early, and I love 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.000 a little White and living in Memphis for a few years. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.320 It's like, I just I'm always watching what's happening in 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.440 Memphis because you can count on a couple of artists 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.720 a year being in the top ten biggest artists in 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.480 hip hop every year being Memphis. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.760 Yeah, you're You're synonymous with Memphis forever. Man. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.679 I'm proud of that too, man, because I love you know, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.560 I love Memphis and Gloria's just awesome. Dude, and me 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.280 and you talked about this off camera, but I think 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.480 we should give her flowers like this on camera. She 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.320 is you feel a radiation of gratitude coming off of 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.520 her that is rare in the music business, like this, 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.359 real genuine, like every step forward for her as a win, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.399 and she is just in the most graceful place. You 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.280 can almost tell. She's to the point now where even 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.960 the bullshit don't get to her no more. She don't 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.080 get wrapped up and none of that. She is just complete. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.480 She is floating and you can feel that when you're around. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:32.920 Her, you know what I mean. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.480 It's like she just gives off this genuine gratitude and 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.080 the music is fucking incredible. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.680 No, she's I just thought, so here's the story. I should. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.040 I should. I'll tell you the story. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.160 Me and Glowyd when we met, we immediately because immediately 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.280 people in her management camp, you know my relationship with 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.000 Memphis for all these years, we all kind of know 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:51.439 each other. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.440 It's two degrees of separation where that is. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:54.879 Anyway, So somebody hit me and me like, yo, I'm 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.240 such a such you remember back then I'm working with Glowe. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.560 I want to get yall together, put us on a 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.040 text thread and U Every time either one of us 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:03.399 have been in La. We've hit the other one and 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.600 missed each other, but like a couple of days so 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.639 we were trying to do something anyways. It was like 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.320 if I look at our text thread right now, it's 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:12.600 a constant like I'm in La. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:13.200 Where are you at? 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.040 When you hear and it's like a day later she'll 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.080 be like, ah, I'll be there Friday, and I'm like 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.280 I'm gone, yeah, Or it's like her being like, Yo, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:19.760 I'm in La. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.600 Where are you at? Swing By? You know what I mean. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.960 So it's like we I know, we like each other 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:25.560 and we want to work together and she knows I'm 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.520 a huge fan, and uh, it's been really cool man. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.240 I love that she was like, we got to do 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.600 this for Tennessee. I've me and my heart smile. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.080 Yeah, it's crazy, dude. The Memphis, whole Memphis thing is 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.600 just crazy. You know, Rest in Peace, Golf, you know 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.359 that whole case. Some of the details that's getting interesting, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.920 how I mean it's like for you, like you're such 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.840 a fan of just everything, Like you know, I kind 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:47.720 of look at you as like, let's talk about. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:48.880 The doll trail for two seconds. I know you don't 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.400 want me to get hung up. Here because you're my friend. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.480 Don't want me to get in trouble. But all I 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.240 want to say about the Doll trail is I was 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.920 blown away that the doph trial opened and closed open 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.600 on a Monday, closed on a Friday, and had a 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:02.080 deliberated jury. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.879 Return a verdict back in five days. And we have 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.200 been watching. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:13.000 Jeffrey sit down in the the Cave County jail for years. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.720 It is, man, I don't like to get in the 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.240 middle of stuff, and some of the stuff that he 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.440 was accused of is extremely heinous and if it's true, 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.200 he should be held accountable like any other criminal. But man, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.840 it just seems like one of the greatest injustices I've 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.360 ever seen happening down there, man. 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.920 And it's getting to the point. 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.680 Man, I don't keV. I would tell you something, keV. 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.680 I don't talk about this much, Bubba. But there's something 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.240 I'm into. When I'm writing music, I don't listen to music, 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.760 so I listened to podcasts and it's somewhere between comedy 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.480 and true crime. And my preference of keeping up with 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.600 true crime isn't like the eerie stuff. I like watching 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.639 Law and Crime with Jesse on YouTube or familiar with 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.080 his channel, or I watched Bruce Rivers. I watch, like, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.080 I got a few of these different kind of lawyer 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.760 things that I'll watch, these kind of lawyer things that 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.720 I'll go and then if I'm really interested in what 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.320 Jesse Webber's talking about, I'll just go watch that day 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.159 of the trial. I get that nerded out about like 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.560 active trials when they're happening. I think it's because my 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.280 mama used to watch them. She obsessed about them. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.640 We were I've never talked about Yeah, I've never talked 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:24.520 about this one. What do you think? 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.000 What do you think about the thug thing? Because it 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.800 feels to me as if it's gonna get thrown out 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:29.600 at least it and then he's. 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:31.399 I think they're gonna I think they're just if it 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.720 doesn't get thrown out, then it actually goes in there, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.680 they'll either find him guilty or the juri or hang. 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.000 But the problem becomes I think that I think that 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:41.919 he's gonna end up getting out of the case, and 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.000 I think he's going to have the biggest class action 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.480 lawsuit against the Cab County and American history. You know 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:49.800 what I mean, Because it's one hundred and twenty some 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.920 people on that case. I think the da overshot. I 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:54.960 think that she was I don't know what she was thinking. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.840 I think she made too. She made a mountain out 0:22:57.840 --> 0:22:59.919 of a mole hill. And there was some really really 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.439 really bad stuff that happened. There were bodies involved, There 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.359 was murders, murder for higher plots. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:05.720 I mean it. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.080 It had all the makings of what looked like it 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.560 should be a big thing. 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:18.000 My man, Hey, chow chy Bobby, we have we have 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:29.600 three dogs, Tim, will you take them out? Tim? Yeah? Hey, 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.080 what about scary gat mad today? 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:32.680 Because you think at that dog? 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.360 Why am I not going to l as like? Because 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.400 you got to watch the dogs. He did bring it down. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.320 It was like he brought a dog, so you got 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.840 to stay back with your dog. The mean greets seemed 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:48.560 to go quick. Huh yeah, fifteen twenty. It felt great. 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:56.520 Kiss Cameron, Kiss, Shots to the Bunny. A pod swap 0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.159 is coming soon, the pop swap, the pods swap. I 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:01.480 love that. 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.800 My wife immediately made a sexual cox swah. 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.520 She said, are we cock swapping? What does that mean? 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.960 Man? I love sex? Why am I? Yeah? 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.680 It is interesting it's interesting too, because like, do you 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.760 ever get into these. I find myself sometimes watching them, 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.760 but it's it's a little different because I know, I 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.240 know like a lot of these guys, so I try 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.560 not to. But like the like Hood documentaries that they 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.480 be putting out, where they like they'll tackle like the 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.760 Jacksonville hip hop scene, or how accurate. 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:38.560 Do you think some of that stuff is? 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.280 Who in that scene do you think actually does there? 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:42.760 Takes their time against their information. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.920 That's the problem. I just had this conversation. 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.680 I will tell you who gets their paper who gets 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:52.679 the paperwork right. Jake gets the paperwork right. But I 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.199 have a lot of respect for him. He takes the 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.000 time to get it right. 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.280 Yeah, And I don't know if I've ever heard him 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.400 be wrong. And if he feels like the a guy 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.240 that would have the humility to be like this, this 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:03.520 was no. 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.320 I think he jump on the grenade. If he was 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.680 really wrong, he strikes music of would immediately be like 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.080 those documents, you think. 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.560 He's I got no. 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:11.960 Man. 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:13.080 My old thing is. 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.480 You're in a tight spot here. You can't say you think. 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.720 No, no, no, I think that when you're I just had 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:25.120 this conversation. Think about this, like, we're creating a culture 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:29.160 of hip hop fans who don't look at hip hop 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:33.440 artists people. They look at them as criminal interests on 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:37.600 their favorite YouTube channel. Overall, what they're doing is they're 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.919 not even into the music. Like, let's be honest, right, 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.040 like a lot of the stories the music. Yeah, So 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.600 it's like when someone like Folio, you know, gets murdered, 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:48.679 going and looking at the comments on some of these 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:54.080 posts are like it's like there's just no humanity like 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.320 with some of these fans, they just don't give a fuck. 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.879 And so like with Chapel of Ross, like you know, 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:00.000 I know he made like a three and a half 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:05.040 half hour long King Vaughan hip hop's first serial killer video. 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.640 I mean, I just if you can't prove that, that's 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.160 a pretty crazy thing to put on someone who's dead, right, 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.399 you know. So I don't know, man, I think that 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.040 you know, there a lot of that stuff is entertaining, 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.600 Like I think Trapple of Ross does a good job 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.119 of putting together entertaining content. 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.640 Now my wonder becomes is from a I think about 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.240 it as journalism, is that who is actually doing the 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.720 research to get it right? And it makes you want 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.240 and I don't know, I've watched some of Trapleo, of 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:30.800 Ross's stuff. 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:32.879 He's got entertaining stuff for sure. 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.000 It sucks, man, because I'm such a hip hop fan 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.600 to watch that part of hip hop. You know, you 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:44.960 gotta think in our era when Tupac got killed, there 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.159 wasn't a bigger news story in the world. 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.760 When Master J you can go on. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.720 YouTube and watch. I mean, if Tupac died today, you know, 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.920 there'd be so much content to digest about it. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.080 For sure, it probably his murder probably would have gotten solved. 0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.720 No, they would have filmed it all the way to 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.760 where it happened. They've been able to track back every. 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.000 Video taken of that bends coming down the strip, or 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.440 people waving at each other. All that stuff would have 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:07.760 been able to happen in those moments. 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.440 Talk to me, man, you know we haven't really talked 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.919 about this. I've heard you talk about it, but I 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.440 know how how much of a big deal it is 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.439 to even have like someone like Eminemic knowledge who the 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:25.760 fuck you are, but to have Eminem sample your song 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.960 and to be able to perform with him, to be 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:34.840 able to just I mean, you've been performing, uh loose 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.480 yourself on stage, yeah. 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.120 For years and years and uh you know. 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.600 Can you Like I said, I know, I know you've 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.119 talked about it a lot, but I just feel like 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.360 it's such a you know, I just know how big 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.119 of a deal that was for you, man, So you know, 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.679 just yet like it's. 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.280 Getting weird weird, No, dude, Marshall's the who's the goat. 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.199 Anybody who says Eminem is. 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.240 Not the greatest rapper ever, it's just lie. Just you know, 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.480 they're they're allowing other factors. 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:06.920 Yeah, if we're talking about the talent of. 0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:11.320 Rapping, yes, I don't I would argue to say that, 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.800 A man, I don't know. There's a lot of we'll 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.200 never see nobody better. I think there will be. I 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.200 don't think that I'll live long enough. 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:21.399 To see it. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.120 Yeah, I think I know what I think lyrically, Yeah, 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.680 I think, you know, I think I think we've we've 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.240 had we've I always say, we're in the middle of 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.080 this era of Kendrick Lamar and it's almost like watching 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.240 Steph Curry where it's like, well, we just. 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.360 Kind of take advantage of Steph Curry and Lebron's on TV, 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.200 but like we we appreciate we lived through the Eminem 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.800 thing and we're still here, so we knew what it 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.880 was like. But I think during that era we weren't. 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.120 We didn't look at Eminem as the greatest of all time. 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.320 We just loved I. 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.000 Don't know the Kendrick moment. I don't know. 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.400 Kendrick's got a unique thing that's happening right now. That's 0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.680 very Eminemish. As far as that dude's been putting out 0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.000 hits a long time. 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.400 Now, for sure, it's been ten years. 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.880 He's a decade into putting out real, absolute solified bangers. 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.840 Eminem had a decade like that. I think that his 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.000 follow up to Not Like Us will be one of 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.120 the most important bodies of work. Whatever he does will 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.200 be super super important. 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.400 What is it? Also takes a lot of time off right, 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.800 he has big drops and big. 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.000 It takes time. Yeah, what is what is that like? 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.360 First initial? Is it a text? Is it a call 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:34.200 where you find out that a save me remix is 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:35.760 on the eminem out? 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.080 It's Paul Rosenberg. It's Paul Paul Rosenberg. Man, Paul Rosenberg 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.160 is the dude. So that's ms longtime manager. Anybody watching 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.480 that doesn't know, absolutely legend been with him day one, 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.280 built the entire business. Around. 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.160 It just one of the He'll go down as one 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.800 of the greatest ever, do you know what I mean? 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.440 And him and my manager John and nearly been friends 0:29:55.440 --> 0:30:01.240 since they did Renegade together back, so they've been friends for. 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.959 All this time. I didn't know I was on M's 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:04.680 even radar. 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.720 I just assumed, you know that if I had a 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.280 chance to be on his radar would have been a 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.920 decade ago, whenever the Timnute Freestyle might have called it, 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.320 you know. But apparently he dug the record, and when 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.440 they initially called, they just said send it with no context. 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.280 And for this, fum, I don't need any context. 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:21.640 You tell me. 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:27.360 Anyone wants something, send them, send them, Send the vocals 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.960 we didn't use. He wants to go recop, you know 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.920 what I mean, Like send him everything. 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.880 Uh, And you know how rap is. 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.040 I thought he was gonna send me a verse and 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.640 I was just gonna have a remix of my phone, 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:38.880 you know what I mean, Like. 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.680 Yeah, I like this, let me let me slide on. Man. 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.720 I just kind of you know the role, I'm gonna 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.040 get a Rul's gonna throw you one, you know him, Drake. 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.440 They've kind of waned these I've watched these guys do 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:50.160 it over the years. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.800 It's like randomly, just throw somebody one, and I was like, 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.120 I might be finn to get one, and were turned 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:56.720 out even cooler than getting one. It turned out that 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.840 end up being for his album. Now, I didn't I 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.040 didn't hear much about it for a year or eight 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:01.680 months or whatever. 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:02.920 It was a long period of time. 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.880 I'm not good at judging time right now, because I 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.240 think I started this tour eight months ago and it 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.880 was six weeks ago. I don't know, I'm lost, but 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.880 it was definitely enough time that I had gotten sad. 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.120 That's the best way to put it. It was long enough 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.640 that I had come to the conclusion it wasn't gonna happen. 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:20.600 And then John calls me. 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.840 He's like, EM's, EM's gonna put this on his record, 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.280 Like for sure, because when I seen Houdini drop, I 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.440 was like maybe maybe, I was like, he might be 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:34.360 you know this, this could be real, right, because my 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.480 fear was he just didn't drop at all. But I 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.200 had a feeling that it was gonna happen, and it did. 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.920 Man doing the video with him, he's been nothing but 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.560 kind man, Yeah, nothing but kind. Yeah, funny, genuine all 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:48.120 that stuff. 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.760 How hard is it for you with your come up? 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.959 I always wonder this because I know that we are 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.200 in a very finicky industry and you've been a part 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.360 of this industry long before you household name. But to 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.680 have the success you've had over the last couple of 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.720 years and to probably have new interactions with people that 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.840 maybe didn't reply to DMS or big timed you, and 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.960 that is that like does that do you remember all? 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.480 And I don't think you're a petty guy, but is 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:19.280 that like you ever? 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:19.480 Like? 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.440 But I also know you don't forget, so like, does 0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:23.920 that happen a lot for you? 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.360 No? I remember like. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.800 The couple of like booking agents that really passed on 0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:33.080 me that like genuinely just like took the meeting and 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.080 you just never heard back from and then somebody else 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.640 come and says they passed Right, those you kind of 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.280 don't forget because you know you're so desperate that those 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.720 meetings meet everything right. But I also didn't hold much 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.240 of a grudge though, because I man, I guess that's 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.560 how I still look at stuff, keV. Is that even 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.160 then I would go into those rooms like I don't 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:53.920 care how this meeting goes. The fact that I was 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.239 invited here, lets me know that it was like to 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.760 me an erow this old fashioned phrase that the arrows 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.600 are all always pointing us in the right direction. You know, 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.520 you just got to look for him. It's like these 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:05.960 were a rows for me, you know what I mean. 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.000 So anytime I got big shot at the fact that 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.320 I was close enough to something to get big shot. 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.000 At, it was like I'm cooking. I'm cooking. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.600 I thought about me and Paul talking about Paul Rosenberg. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.440 I met Paul Rosenberg when Yellow Wolf was getting ready 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:20.480 to put out Love Story. 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.520 Okay, so this is like twenty fourteen, fifteen mm. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.800 It's probably not right, around a decade ago, and he's 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.160 it's way before right, probably a year seven eight months 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.760 for the album came out. He was playing some of 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.720 the music for like a private Grammy pre listening party 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:40.760 for Interscope, and Paul was there and I got blackout 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:46.520 drunk on whistle Big never Forget It. And you know, 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:52.320 I met Paul then, and that's but I'm Yellow's plus one, right, 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.720 And even then in those moments, I was like, man, 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.440 I'm on the right path, Like if this dude likes 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.239 me enough to invite me to this party and then 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.800 introduce me to this dude. Like this is more a 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.280 Roe's point in the right way, you know. 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.520 I feel like Love Story was so ahead of its 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.359 time that if that album came out in twenty twenty four, 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.160 it's got a couple of number one records on it. 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.960 Dude, it is that it still had a couple of 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.080 really big reals. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.879 No, of course. I mean I think I think, uh, 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.319 I know it's gone as platinum or gold. I think 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.640 it was American you on there. 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.239 I think that was a really weird time for Oh 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.360 dude had the eminem record on there, my best. 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.040 Friend yeah, yeah, out of my veins, that one, and 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.560 the one about about his baby Mama. 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.480 Yeah, dude, was empty Bottles on that record. Was the next? 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.320 Empty Bottles was on that record? Yeah? 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.480 Man, so many has so many big records. I think 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.560 that it fell in a weird time. It was somewhere 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:52.520 between the tail end of digital. Did you were streaming? 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.720 Wasn't what streaming is yet? 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.799 And and and and the other, the old school way 0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:58.560 was dying off? 0:34:58.719 --> 0:34:59.919 Was it was all but dead? 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.680 It was weird. It was a weird limbo it was a. 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.960 Super weird time to be putting out because remember Till 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.040 It's Gone got picked up by the last scene of 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:08.280 Sons of Anarchy. 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.160 Which made that such a bid I remember that, Yeah, I. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.800 Remember said at the house, watching and going this dude's 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.040 fixing out the biggest moment ever. 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.120 I could feel it right then. 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:15.480 For sure. 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.600 You felt it in Nashville though, Dude him and Clever 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.080 as DJ running around town on Harley's long hair. It 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.480 was just such a different feeling that was happening around 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.719 what he was doing in that moment. But I think 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.800 it was just a very weird time to be putting 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.680 out work. It's like buying houses or selling them. 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:37.520 Right now, yo, you are the We kind of went 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.279 over some of these numbers last night, the amount of 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.879 physical copies you're actually selling, the true album sales, which 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.279 to me means way more than streams. Right, streams can 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.839 be manipulated. Streams could be background music. People could throw 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.120 something on while they're at the barbershop. Shit just plays. 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.799 If it isn't one hundred thousand, it's close to one 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.279 hundred thousand actual physical copies of this album were bought, 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.279 which is insane. It's it's it's almost unheard of. I 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.360 feel like I feel like maybe Nikki still does that, 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.920 but at least, you know, in the genre that I'm 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.080 familiar with, it's pretty it's pretty damn near unheard of. 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:20.360 You've grown this like fan base through obviously being unapologetically 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.360 yourself but speaking for so many people who don't have 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.560 a voice. But I also feel like you have this 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.359 other side of your fan base that they just love you. 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.920 They're not even like they like the music's cool, but 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.640 they saw you on a podcast, right they saw you. 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.520 They just love you. They saw you on you know, 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.200 going and speaking to Congress. Just explain to me that 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:46.160 connection with the fans that is, you know, it's anonymally 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.400 in music right now, to have one hundred thousand physical 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.720 copies moved in seven days, that's fucking insane. 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:52.600 No, that's great, man. 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:54.920 It's it's a support in a way that I couldn't 0:36:54.960 --> 0:37:00.680 ever dream that of felt. It's like overwhelming, honestly, you know, 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.319 it's I don't know, man, it's crazy just having to 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.080 me me and you talked about it too, and we 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:06.600 talked about it off camera, but I'll say it on 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.120 camera too. Is that I'm all I'm the grass is 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.520 greener for me in that scenario where it's like the 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.680 streaming side though, is such a big consumption side in 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.600 the new world, because I guess I'm still nervous. I 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.120 hope that the CDs are translating to people caring about 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.000 the music because we've watched the street hustlers. I know 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.920 dudes that have sold tens of thousands of CDs that 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.160 couldn't sell seven tickets. So the real measure to me 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.560 of an artist's success truly is if people show up 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:35.399 to the building and see on. 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.360 Four feet away from the stage. 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.480 That's it. It's like to me, that's the tail tale. 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:40.200 You sold out? 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.680 How many people in Wichita, Kansas on a Tuesday? 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.720 Yeah for sure, thirteen fourteen thousand. 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.040 Cool, great show. We're gonna do it again the night 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.640 of Springfield. But it's gonna be gonna be a ball 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:49.560 down here in Springfield. 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.120 Is the like the people will they will they come? 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.919 Yeah? Yeah? Is that? Can you build a tour around it? And? 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.480 Uh, you know that's what to me whenever I look, 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.160 and normally the top two or three albums can normally 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.239 tell that road Wave is a huge touring act. 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.319 Charlie is a huge touring act. You know what I mean, 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.000 it's a but that's where that's where the rubber really 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:09.600 meets the road is if you can get somebody to 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.359 buy a ticket, because listen, man, I tell people, man, 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.680 that's not a ticket stub. That's a soul. That's a story, 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.640 and that's you get thirteen thousand stories. That's a babysitter, 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.600 that's gas money, that's that's a rough day of work. 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.600 I took a day off and drove in, you know 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.600 what I mean. That's all big stuff. So it's like, 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:29.880 to me, that's the real tale. 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:35.279 You've had so many interesting live moments in terms of 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.600 just your career obviously, many gatherings of the Juggalos opening 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.840 up for insane clown posse, being in a van with 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:46.960 highlight running around this country. What uh you know? Because 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.200 how many tickets total will this tour move by the end? 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.440 It's it's seven hundred thousand. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.560 Seven hundred thousand. That's fucking crazy to here. I love 0:38:55.600 --> 0:39:00.799 as well. What was like for you crazy? Talk to 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.040 me about the other the other side of your Tory 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.399 career where you were in the van and I think 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.840 you guys are trying to track down the van, Bertha, We're. 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.960 Trying to find that old van right now. We sticked 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:10.600 our guy on it. 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.160 But like for you, like to have seen it on 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.200 all ends of the spectrum, like take me back, and 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.959 you kind of shared a story about like a rough 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.080 a rough life show. You had what was like kind 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:25.160 of your your valley of being on the road as 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.799 an independent artist trying to make it before people gave 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:28.160 a fuck. 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.520 I told a story about whenever we played the Boardwalking Sacramento, 0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.799 when there was like seven people or something that showed up. 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.200 But the one I told you that was just as 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.080 funny was we played the Please called the Electric Factory 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.760 Philly right in Philly, right, And I'm open enough for ICP. 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.200 And I'm one of four. So what one of four 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.320 means is there's four acts. I cps the fourth act. 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.640 I'm the first act, which means I go first of 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.040 all the four two as mad Child. Three is the 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:57.560 Mafia six okay, which is three six Mafia their side group, Yeah, 0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:58.880 their side group short of Juicy. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.640 And and so I'm one of four in Philly at 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:04.440 the Electric Factory. 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.120 And every night what I would do is because there 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.520 was like a change over time between acts, fifteen or 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.880 twenty minutes, I would say the last song. I would go, hey, y'all, 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.719 I got inside information here, such as Smad Child's not 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.320 coming on stage for twenty minutes. 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.719 So for the next twenty minutes until his song. 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.080 Starts, I want to be back at the merch booth, 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.960 signed stuff, taking pictures, smoking joints, whatever y'all want to do. 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.279 Just come hang. You know. 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.560 It's early, right, And uh I come off stage and 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.040 I'm like trying to get through the crowd to the 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:31.560 you know thing and normally have to put my hood 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:32.640 up and kind of get there, and I'll take a 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.200 picture or two on the way and uh man, I'm 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.240 looking people straight and the eye nothing. I'm walking right 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.400 by people. I just remember I just performed for this 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:40.919 whole crowd. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:41.560 Yeah. 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.160 And I go to my merch moove and not a 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.560 soul is in there, cav not a listen there's and 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.800 it's so packed that people are standing like they have 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.719 looked my front of my merch booth has become a 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.640 common area where like people would come together and exchange 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.000 cigarettes or like put stuff in a bag. 0:40:58.239 --> 0:40:59.400 Even you were sitting there. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.719 Yeah, nobody, I'm standing there like you know, like my 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.759 little stuff behind me. You know what I'm saying, I'm 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.080 selling my little T shirts. It's like nothing. It was 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:11.320 so bad. I watched I watched, Uh, I watched. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.040 ICP from front of house, but not like front of house. 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:15.759 I meant like front of house, like you know, I 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.680 just went out there. Yeah, I just stood next to 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.640 a guy. You know what I'm saying that look annoyed 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:20.800 that I was taking up faces. 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.080 Just watch those show. 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.600 Those are those stick with you too, because those are 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.319 the nights you get in the car and really be like, 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.200 maybe I'm driven. You're looking for the arrows, and that's 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.319 a night where you don't get one. 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:32.400 You like you getting. 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:36.160 In fact, arrows go the other way. Net negatives another negative. 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.640 That's funny, Yo. I wanted to you know you and 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.600 uh whether I don't know if you know this, but uh, 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.720 you know your daughter and my son have something in common. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.239 They're both as as I heard you describe it on 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:51.200 a podcast Victims of Drug Addiction. Because my son's mom, 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.920 her whole life was just I mean, it was like 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:57.759 a battle to keep her sober. She left him when 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.680 he was like two for like a year, and then 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.759 at the age of ten, I decided to pull the 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.799 plug on trying to keep the bullshit together. He hasn't 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:13.239 seen it. She hasn't seen him. He's nineteen. She hadn't 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:17.120 seen since he was ten. Wow, but you know, my 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.759 wife comes into his life when when he's eleven, and 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.680 you know his mom now. Yeah, but you know, I 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.200 wanted to talk to you, like, how do you deal 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.320 with you know? And I'm kind of asking for advice 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.400 here because my son's nineteen. He's a great kid, you know, 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.719 just graduated high school, he's going to college. But I 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:40.640 feel like sometimes I see him wearing that that unresolved 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:41.479 mom shit. 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.040 Yeah, well he is. There's no way he's not. 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.719 I mean even the toughest, smartest kids that are the 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.319 most grounded and understanding, when you go through something like that, 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.040 you can't help but wonder what's going on. And you 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.759 also got to keep in mind that no matter how 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.960 smart he is, that brain still developing. Yeah, for sure, 0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.680 you know what I mean, he's still even though he's nineteen, 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.839 he's an he can buy a cigarette now. 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.719 It's not to me. He's not no adult. I wasn't 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:04.640 an adulted eighteen. 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.520 I mean I had him when I was eighteen. 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.160 Yeah, yeah, you know, so you know that feeling. 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.480 So it's like, I don't know, man, I would I 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:16.000 would encourage you to encourage him, or I'll encourage him 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.360 to reach out and seek real help about that, you 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.000 know what I mean. There is a book called. 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.240 Children of Drug Addict Parents or something like that, children 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:30.280 of Alcoholic Parents. 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:34.359 I'm just not didn't you know whatever, But I normally 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:35.759 would have that book on the top of my head. 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.359 But I've read it before. It's a great book. It 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.040 helped me a lot, just like getting in tune with 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.480 that and understanding and one him just acknowledging it, that'll 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.000 be a good step for him just to kind of 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.200 be like, yeah, man, it does bother me a little 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.160 bit that, you know. 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:49.799 Do you have to deal with that with Bailey at all? 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.080 Sometimes where you got kind of like, you know, because 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.800 to get your you were forced to get your shit together. 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.640 And I still had the moments would be where I 0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.439 can tell its way and on and we still allow 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.520 her to talk. Yeah, and I allowed she I allow 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.399 her to have space to feel however she feels about 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.239 her mother. That's a big one because sometimes she's like, yo, 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:09.000 I kind of want to talk to her and I 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.920 want to figure this out, and I'm like cool. And 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.759 then sometimes she's like, I never want to talk to 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.399 that woman again, and I'm like, I respect that decision too, 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.600 But either decision you make, I think it's important that 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.759 you continue to get help about it. So, you know, 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.600 she goes and Bay, he's been in therapy for a 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:24.440 couple of years about it. 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.480 Right, Well, that's important. 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.560 They yeah, well, it just will help him to understand 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.239 why he thinks the way he thinks about things. And 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.360 I would hate for it to affect his relationships later 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.560 in life by not getting ahead of it now. 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.200 Yeah, And it's like having you know, like the way 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.080 you had Bunny, the way I have my wife. It's like, man, 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.160 I don't know where. I don't know if I was 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.640 able to even handle like the level of like fatherhood 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.360 that came with trying to make it while also keeping 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.200 this kid right on the right tracks. You know what 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.719 I'm saying? So deep? 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.440 No, that's deep. Thanks for sharing that. I'll get the 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.200 name of that book though. Man, that book is it's 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.880 it's incredible. 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:06.080 Man. 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:07.960 I remember when I first looked at it, I was like, 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:12.520 this doesn't look like children of adult children. Of adult 0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.760 alcoholics or something like that, adult children of our adult 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.239 children of alcoholics, is it? 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:17.960 Or something like that. 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.239 You're on this health kick right now? How many I 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.280 think I heard you say you lost about sixty pounds? 0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.440 Hundred pounds? Well, congratulations, I'm at a legit hundred. 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:31.000 I'm at a legit hundred from my like kind of 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:32.319 a little bit more than a hundred from what my 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.319 biggest was. I'm down eighty or ninety this year. 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:39.360 It's amazing. I remember the last time, because I remember 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.440 was about twenty sixteen, seventeen, you had lost a lot 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:42.960 of weight. 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.919 Yep, and back this time I got to keep it off. 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.120 Well, you know, it's it's crazy because I was talking 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.120 with Big X the Plug about this because I was like, hey, man, 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:56.680 like you're like Big X the Plug, but like we 0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:00.319 also want you to be here, right. Do you worry 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.719 about like your image of what the public knows you 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.719 as being wrapped into being like a heavier guy. 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.160 Man, I'm gonna lose the weight and I'm gonna break 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:08.880 the curse. 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.200 Yeah, Because there is a quote. 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.320 Actor curse of actors who lost weight that couldn't find work, 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.480 but there's also actors that lost weight and found more work, 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.759 you know what I mean. But if that is a 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.200 quote unquote curse, I'm gonna break it. Me and my 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.800 wife actually talked about this real deep one night recently, 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.719 because she she knows whenever I get the eye of 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.759 the tiger in me, she's seen it before. Now we've 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.200 been together long enough that she's like, oh, I know 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.279 my husband, he's not gonna stop to his weights off, 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.160 like when he really dials in this, dude's fixing it 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.000 completely shed this And she was like, well, you know, 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.200 do you have a plan sustainable to keep it off? 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:43.759 She just being a good woman, you know what I mean, 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:48.319 just having real conversations with me, And she goes, are 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:52.080 you worried about any criticism? 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:52.319 You know? 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:53.520 And I was like a little bit. I was like, 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.000 I know that, I know how this works. Like they're 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.560 gonna even though I'm losing the weight in front of everybody, 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.279 They're still going to like, there's still gonna be some 0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:02.880 people like, well, of course he took the shot. 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.279 I never took a shot. Yeah. 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.960 It's like it's like they're not not that I'm against 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:08.840 those in picks. My doctor thinks it's great. I'm just 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.239 personally not. I'm afraid of stuff like that. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:11.920 I don't know. 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.839 I did drugs for so long. I like putting weird 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.640 shit in my body on one fair enough. 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:15.759 You know. 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.480 But I'm not saying I won't do it. But you 0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.720 know it's I can still see her. I can imagine 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.319 that I'm about another seventy eighty pound. I got another 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:24.799 goal to lose a lot more weight. And they'll come 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.319 a point where they'll start saying I look sick, you know, 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.200 and I'm cool with I'm just me. And her talked 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.839 about it, and she was so honest. She was like, good, 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.720 I just wanted to make sure it didn't hurt your feelings. 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:33.440 I was like, no, I'm not. 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.799 The difference is I think a lot of people make 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.200 the mistake of going and hiding and getting healthy and 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.240 then coming out healthy, you know what I mean. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.120 Where it's like instead of doing it in front of everybody, 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:46.960 so they see that. 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:48.960 Like watch the daily rolls and I put them on 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.680 my Instagram every day. It's like just what we're doing 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.400 in life. And I'm not going to be one of 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.319 them weird people that loses a bunch of weight and 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:57.280 it becomes my identity. 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.239 Neither right, like I feel better. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.120 I'm gonna talk about it because it's going to always 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.759 be the elephant in the room. But it's like, I 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:07.400 feel better, I'm thinking clearer, and uh, it's just it's 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.319 one part of what I do every day is I 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.840 now eat better, I fight my my food addiction demon, 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.560 and I work out. It's just but it's still makes 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:16.839 very little of who I am. 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:17.360 As a human. 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.320 Yeah, only making who I am as a human better. 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.400 I'm only becoming a better human as I'm getting healthier. 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.759 What for you like talk about just like because you know, 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.080 for anybody who's friends with you, you've always been at 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:36.000 a recreational relationship with certain substances. But for you, like, 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:38.799 you know, just being around you the last like six 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.960 seven months, I've noticed like you're like you've like calmed 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:42.280 down a lot when it comes to I mean obviously 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.479 we'll drink sometimes, but was there like a breaking point 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.040 for you where you're like, yo, I gotta kind of 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:47.960 kick back a little. 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.840 I could not drink the way I was drinking and 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:52.040 keep up with this schedule. 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.800 Yeah, because dude, you're the tequila god. 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.880 I drink. I don't drink a lot, but when I 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.320 drink I drink a lot. 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.760 Sure, I am legend with people. It gets it is crazy, 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:06.719 but yeah, I just couldn't drink. I just man, I'm 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:07.239 so like. 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.400 I have one. I started implementing a little like adult 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:12.920 forty year old rules. 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.400 Now that are like, I don't drink unless I have 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:16.439 a full day off the next day, just in case 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.560 it's the way I like to drink and I haven't. 0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:20.440 Had a full day off. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:21.120 It. 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.480 Yeah, backed up to a night that it made sense 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:28.560 to drink in a long time night or something like 0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.040 we were we were thinking about it, like the iHeartRadio 0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.440 Awards was like one of those magical nights where we 0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:38.000 won an award that we're celebrating and had nothing to 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:38.799 do the next day. 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:39.319 It was like. 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:43.160 Score, we know we got blacked out that night. 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.799 Buba for sure, because when I like. 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.400 That was wasn't that the name you fell in the pond? 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:48.719 Yeah? 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.279 I fear of the hotel splashed around? No, It's like, dude, 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.840 those are the like if I'm gonna go out and party, 0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.880 I party that way and the next day it falls 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.040 real recovery from Yeah, I gotta drink certain water, drink 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:05.000 eat food, get in asana, getting I be I'm old. 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:06.640 I just don't have it no more. So it's like, 0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:08.160 I don't know, I'm just more I'm more in love 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.080 with the pace of. 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:11.239 The work I'm doing right now, we're working at a 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:12.479 way different pace. Man. 0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.120 Yeah, it's crazy too, man, just to see the production, 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.640 Like how many people are employed on this tour? One 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.799 hundred and fifty something that's insane. 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:26.120 Twenty two trucks, sixteen buses. Bro, Like, it's crazy, huge production. 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.560 That's so crazy, so fun though, Like so many people's 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.480 livelihoods are in this building and connected to you going 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.560 on that stage and doing your You're out, And that's. 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.000 Not counting the one hundred plus locals every night, another 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:40.560 one hundred vendors. 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.520 Right, you know what I mean. So that shit's crazy. 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:44.400 I'm curious. 0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:44.560 I know. 0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.480 Really, you got your bar coming yes in Nashville, which 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.000 is I can't wait to like how far along is 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:51.600 that process? 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.640 Oh it's there, dude, they went the other day. It's 0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.080 framed out, it's ready. We should be open top of 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.040 the year sometime early. 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.680 So you already got the least together and all that. 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.600 Oh no, at least, I mean, dude, this building is 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.320 being has been getting rebuilt for the last eight months. 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.000 Oh wow from scratch. 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:07.279 Oh yeah, this has been a. 0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:10.960 They kept the frame of the building because it was 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:14.040 an old concrete built in the nineteen twenties concrete style, 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:16.920 but then they just framed wood inside of it. But 0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.719 she had no completely remodeled the whole thing. Really really 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:20.520 did it the right way. 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.719 Yo. This guy and this company we're with is like 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.520 really really good at what they do. Are you are you? 0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.279 You know them from Phoenix? You know what I'm working with? 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.040 Right the bottle blinde? Oh ship? Yeah, they got a 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.480 great place. Got they got a bunch of great spots. Yeah, 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:34.640 I'm working. 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.240 Oh that's gonna be crazy and they're gonna be great 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:38.160 to put everywhere. 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.840 Yeah that God? Will you know what I mean? Hey, hey, holler, 0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.200 I'd love to expand. I love it. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:45.799 Man, let me tell you, I want to touch this. 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.600 For a second, I said it. It kind of glossed over 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.040 and on, Joe. But I'm the first. 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:50.880 Uh. 0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:53.960 Of course, Steve and his son BT owned most of 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.680 Broadway and their locals. They're real Nashville people, like for 0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:01.360 real Steve Smith and BT. But as a as an artist, 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.200 I'm the first real Nashville guy to get a bar. 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:05.279 It's a big deal. Man. 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.080 It's like, I don't know, I don't feel entitled to 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.399 very Broadway. Yeah, I don't feel entitled to very much. 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.040 But like being a local, It's like. 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.240 Yeah, I mean I feel like I feel local. 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:17.200 That was my only complaint when I didn't think I'd 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:18.640 ever be in the runnings for one. I'd be like, 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.759 let Chris Young get one or Cadillac three or Ernest Like, 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:22.839 let a local get one. 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.160 I mean, you've done the the opry, You've got a 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.440 bar on Broadway. I think the next thing is owning 0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:28.600 a piece of the Titans. 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.319 I would love to own. Hey, miss Samy, Me and 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.239 Miss Amy, your friends even hang out with the other day. 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:35.879 Just give me a little skin in the game. 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.920 Amy, I'll give you some money and I'll stay out 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.000 of the business completely. Miss Amy, I just love to 0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.560 you know what's crazy I talk about that. I mean, 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.239 the only way it happens is if she'd ever let 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:46.600 me buy into the team, and I'd take I. 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.799 Would take whatever she'd give you. But of course I 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.200 would have never dreamed of that. Man. But Eric Church 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:53.319 is kind of a mentor to me. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:58.400 And Eric Church owns a piece of the Charlotte Hornets. 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:00.880 Wow, like a real piece. 0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:01.720 Wow. 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.400 Yeah. 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.040 And it's a true story. And I heard Kenny Chesney 0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.680 is trying to work out a deal with a with 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:10.920 his dream. I think has been always work out with 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.520 mister craft. Something for the Patriots from a lifelong Patriots 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:14.400 fan got. 0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:16.839 Me So Tom brook Brady just brought up a piece 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:17.760 of the fucking Raiders. 0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:19.640 That's what I'm saying. Tom got him a little piece. 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.000 Give me that little deal, you know what I mean? 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.120 They got him a deal where he's not allowed to nothing. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.000 He just got a little piece of the team. And 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:26.120 that's it, you know what I mean. 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.600 Yo. I know there was a lot of big dream 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:29.280 big dreams. 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:30.960 I know there was a lot of features that almost 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:36.280 happened for the album. Is there anybody who you weren't 0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:38.120 able to because you have some great features on this album, 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:46.360 Hawsey Russ, Uh shit, I'm forgetting Skylar Gray, Ernest, anybody, Yeah, 0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:50.120 anybody who you're like ya, I got this. I got this, 0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.160 Like there's two or three of these motherfuckers. I just 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.200 got to do something with that. Just it just didn't 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:55.120 work out this time. 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:59.480 Oh, I mean for me, just like my list of 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.040 people out want to work with or I still want 0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:04.840 to work with, like Miley really bad. She's from Tennessee? 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.600 What not from Tennessee? Always I like make her claim Tennessee. 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:10.160 I don't know she probably you know, but I know 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.879 that they have Tennessee roots. Of course Sissa. I think 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.359 Siss is like everything about her Lizzo just what they 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:22.520 them is people. And you know what I mean, she 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:26.359 is so special. She is such a gift from God. Man, 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.960 she is so grounded and the music is so. 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:34.840 I hey, how are you. 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:39.560 There's a special delivery? Sorry sorry, A nice a nice 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:40.160 young lady. 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:44.880 But and you know she's Sciss is great also because 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:50.160 of outside of the writing, the music, the rollouts are crazy, 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.040 the labels I mean, but. 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:55.680 Man, her artistry is just different. Right. 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.600 I love when you know people are putting in the 0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.520 work and you can't watch Sissa do anything thing live, 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:03.720 whether it's an award show or an actual concert without 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:07.319 it just reeking of her putting tens. 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.920 Or hundreds of hours into into it. Yeah you know 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:11.839 what I mean. Like not the craft itself, you can 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.239 tell she spent tens of thousands there, but I mean 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.319 in individual you see her on an award show, like 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:19.239 the Grammys, and you're like, dude, I bet she spent 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.400 one hundred hours working on this, you know what I mean, 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:26.279 You're like real hours stand here and working on the court, 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:27.680 you know. 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.520 Like I mean, I think we waited for five years. 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:33.200 For albums and she don't miss man, because if you 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:36.640 take that long to put out an album. You know 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.840 this in our business is inside baseball right here. But 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:42.440 there's an old joke that says, uh, the longer you sit, 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.840 the bigger the hit, you know what I mean, Like, 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:46.480 the longer you sit out, you better have that much 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:48.560 bigger of a hit, you know what I mean, Like 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.520 when you do come back. Adele's the queen of that, 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.080 by the way, coming when she wants but never missing. 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.520 Apparently, Dell would be a dream dream scenario. The weekend. 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.719 The weekend would be my true, true, true buck. I 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:00.720 think he's the greatest artist this generation. 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:01.560 I agree. 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.760 Yeah, I just, I just, I just not the number 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.000 one artist in the world for by default. No, he 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.239 makes my favorite music too, I. 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.600 Mean, yeah, great shots of the weekend. I just met 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:17.319 him in at the iHeart of iHeart festival and it 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.080 feels like a fan of my work. Really, he was like, Yo, 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.360 I just want you to know, like, uh, like it 0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:25.480 seems like everything you do is like from a genuine 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:28.280 good place. You feel like you got a good spirit. 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.359 If Abel said something like that to me, I know. 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.880 It was crazy because and we just started talking about 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.480 like we talked for like twenty minutes. 0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:36.359 Did you gets a fuck? 0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:38.200 It was just cool as fuck. And then he was 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:39.640 like yeah, he was like, yo, dude, you look like 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:40.320 you're like talking. 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:42.840 If I could have a thirty minute conversation with anybody, 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.279 it would be be him or James. 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.480 Taylor Man or Seeger see. 0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:51.719 One of them three Seager, Taylor, Abel. It's yeah, that'd 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.160 be a dream feature for me though. Man, I'm a 0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:54.000 huge weekend fan. 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:57.560 How do you feel about these you mentioned, adell, these 0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.080 memes that are going around that you're the adele. 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:07.000 For uh fort Drivers. Man, dude, I'm just glad. I'm 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.719 just dude. Can you believe I've become a mame? 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:11.880 Yeah? No, I mean you know what they've got so 0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:13.640 many are they called gifts or gifts? 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:15.080 I think it's a gift. 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:20.880 I think it's a it's a gift. 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:24.600 So yeah, they got they got gifts of me. Now, yeah, 0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:26.160 it's really cool. 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.160 Yeah, you're You're like I've said this to other people, 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:31.439 but I'll say to you you are on your way 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.560 to being And I don't mean musically in any sense, 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.280 because I think you have a lot. You're gonna be 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:43.600 like the white Snoop Dogg hope. And I mean that 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:44.920 in the terms of, like, oh. 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.720 My god, Snoop Dogg announced I'm on this album. Oh 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:48.160 we can. 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:52.240 Talk about this, Snoops on the album. You're He announced it, 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:53.760 so I think I'm allowed to talk about it. We 0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.000 cut this, I'm not okay, but he announced it. It sounds 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.800 like it should be fair Gun and the records dope, Dude, 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.400 it is crazy. I won't say anything about the record 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:04.040 because he didn't, but man, it's special. 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:04.880 It's really good. 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:06.320 Him and the Him and Dre shit. 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:09.320 Yes, the Hum and Dre album. Dog, I'm legitimately on 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:11.120 the Snoop dog and Doctor Dre outm It's crazy. 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:12.160 Who reaches out for that? 0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:14.840 Ian Oh ship dude. 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:17.000 Jimmy hits John and says, can we get on a 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.760 FaceTime with Jelly Rowland Drake And I'm like, Doctor Dre. 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.600 They're like, yeah, so listen, I get on a FaceTime 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.200 on my back porch. I'm like a kid. Jimmy's there 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:28.880 and I'm already like I cannot believe. 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:29.120 This is Jimmy. 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.640 Yeah, and uh. 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.440 He goes, oh, there goes on Dre coming. 0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:33.640 Now. 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.040 There goes Dre now. And you can see that the 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:39.640 cameras wiggling a little bit, so you could tell he's 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.680 walking in the frame, and you could tell that they 0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.360 do that, you know that this is there still. They 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.880 could tell they're still this close. So it was just 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:46.400 super cool. 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:48.280 And he sits down and they're just like yo, and 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.160 he's like, I got this crazy idea and. 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:52.080 I'm like, oh, dude, this is doctor Dray. 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.960 And then he's like so it gets even cooler and 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.200 he's like, I can send you something, or you can 0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:59.040 write something and send it back, or you can come 0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.640 here and we can write something something. When he said that, 0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:04.000 I was like, I don't there's no way he expected 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:05.720 me to do any other option. I was like, if 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:08.120 coming and writing with you is the option, I'm coming. 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:11.320 So you went. I went, and you worked with Dre 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:11.800 and person. 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:13.160 I worked with Dre in person. 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.760 At his house. Yes, yeah, because that's why we were I mean, 0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.920 I heard that it's it's. 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:21.320 We're gonna say at his studio, but yeah, but yeah 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:21.920 it was. It was cool. 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.440 Yeah, everybody I heard the speakers are crazy. 0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:27.280 Listen dog. 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:29.800 Now that I've worked with Eminem and doctor Dre, when 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.560 you work with people that big, they're the only two 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.840 people I'm scared to talk about, like when it's like 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:35.440 how did that go? But I mean like being like 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.040 I don't know what I can and came to you 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.320 know what I mean, They're that famous and that legendary. 0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.800 But uh, it was the most awesome session ever. Dude, 0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:44.360 I walked in. Dre was just like the biggest, most 0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:47.560 warm hug. I went by myself completely, So I mean 0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.520 I pull up solo, walk in solo, and then we 0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.040 go down to like the dungeon and it's just a vibe. 0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:57.960 We're in there right and immediately start just like no hesitation, 0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.600 we just start writing it just immediately. Me and the 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:03.080 people that were already working on the record immediately got 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:05.880 it together and you could just feel that like it 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.920 was really fun because I felt like I earned their 1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:10.680 respect kind of early in the process. 1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:12.640 So I had a moment where I was like, all right. 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.400 Cool, I'm holding Yeah, It's like because I knew when 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:17.080 you walk in those rooms, I'm still the kid that's 1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:18.640 coming to wrap at the lunch table, like I want 1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:20.720 to prove that I just deserve to be at the table. 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:23.280 And uh I came in with that kind of attitude. Man, 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.880 it was really cool. We hung out, wrote stayed there 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.440 for a few hours. I mean, we chatted. Is he 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.560 by the way, Kendrick Lamar pop out of just having okay, 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.440 So I'm getting like when I say just happened, I'm 1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:35.280 his first session. 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:36.640 After that, I'm. 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:40.240 Getting all getting I'm getting all that energy. You know, 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.160 all these people in the room together for the first 1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:44.520 time too, So I'm getting all this energy. 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.720 So it was really it was special. Man. Is he directed? 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.320 Because I heard he's like a perfectionist dude, so he 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.240 directed your takes perfectionist. 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:56.360 Let me tell you about Drey. This dude, he's doctor 1:00:56.440 --> 1:01:00.840 Dre for a reason. But he's incredible. He's a conductor 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:05.080 of a symphony in there, and he hears everything in everything, 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.760 and he hears it twenty different ways. And he'll like 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:10.680 put his ears up to these two speakers and you'll 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:12.160 start to sing and he'll be like a little sharp 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:14.800 you were flat on the word d you were a 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.560 little sharp on the word, and like he is man, 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:20.960 it's like not a perfectionist in like a picky asshole 1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.840 way and like a super encouraging like now you got 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:25.960 that in your baby just a little bit like right here, 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:27.680 and I hit it like this, Now give me one 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.640 choice like this to work with. Like he makes you 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:32.960 feel like a rock star too, So you also get 1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:35.760 why he's good at this because he's clearly correcting me 1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:37.880 and getting what he wants out of me, but doing 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:41.400 it while like making me feel like I'm like Adele. 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.760 I'm over here feeling like for a forklift, you know 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:45.080 what I mean. 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:47.480 I'm over here feeling like fucking Frank Ocean right like 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:48.680 I'm killing it, you know what I mean. 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:50.800 Snoop was not around. 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.640 Snoop was not there, Okay, saddest part of the whole 1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.080 story is that Snoop wasn't there. 1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:56.280 I don't think I could have took it though. 1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:57.560 I just feel like I couldn't. 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.480 Have walked into Snoop Dogg and Doctor. 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:02.840 Drape famous in like twenty years where it doesn't matter what, 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.320 like you're just gonna be, You're gonna have five TV shows, 1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:07.280 You're gonna be hosting the Olympics. 1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.640 I'll receive that. I would be honored, kind of would 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:13.800 love it. Noop is definitely a model, a career after 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:14.360 kind of guy. 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:18.040 Yo, it's give me some of the inside baseball on 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:21.400 you know, when we talk about the music industry, You've 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.960 seen so many facets of it. You've been independent, you've 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:28.480 done distro deals. Uh, you know, you're you're with your 1:02:28.520 --> 1:02:31.000 label now, but you still you still own everything, right, 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:36.680 It's still it's like a partnership. Would it for you 1:02:36.960 --> 1:02:43.520 would be you know, the like number one thing you 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:45.920 could point to that you were able to kind of 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:50.000 do in the last two or three years that is 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:53.720 like applicable for other artists who are watching this, whether 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:58.560 it's like learning something new or changing an attitude towards everything, 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.360 or something on the business side, maybe bringing in the 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.800 right people maybe, you know, because sometimes as an independent 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:05.920 artist you don't think you need as much help as 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:07.560 you do. But now you have a team, like a 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:08.280 real team, you know. 1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:11.280 So yeah, I could definitely say that the biggest difference 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.000 was really getting with a label, like honestly, not because 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:16.080 of the machine as much as people like I used 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.320 to be the guy who like rage like the machine, right, 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:21.040 but more so just having an infrastructure of people who 1:03:21.080 --> 1:03:24.320 are working all day delicately towards what you're ever. 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:25.479 We all got the same goal. 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:27.360 We all got the same goal is to try to 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.600 get this music in front of as many people as possible. 1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:32.800 And it's been really, really, really cool. But I can 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:37.240 also tell everybody this man, that it's I truly believe 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:39.880 that what makes music and art so special is that 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:43.040 it can be done so many different ways. So do 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.160 it the way that your heart is convicted to do it. 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:48.600 Like for me, my heart was convicted to try to 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.720 get my message to critical mass. Like I felt like 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:55.520 what I was saying was so unspoken for in mass 1:03:55.560 --> 1:03:59.440 media and in critical mass, meaning like the masses quote unquote, 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.520 that I wanted to do whatever I could to try 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:04.880 to get that message there, and that the deal, the 1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:08.440 percentage was worth doing that deal and the stress that 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:10.440 comes with it too, also the attention, you know what 1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:12.440 I mean, Like there's a whole new work schedule, Like 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:13.560 you know, there's. 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:15.040 Also like a whole new way you have to move. 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:18.360 Man, Everything about my life is different, Everything about my 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:20.840 life is different. I'll be the first one to admit that, 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.000 but it was a sacrifice that I wanted to make 1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:24.320 to try to get the message out. 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:26.720 You know what I mean? But man that you know 1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:28.400 there's other artists that do it otherwise. 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:29.600 Me and you were talking about how much we love 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:31.800 the way Rod Waves operates, like he just wakes up 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:32.200 and he's like. 1:04:32.200 --> 1:04:33.640 You know what, the album's done, let's put it out. 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:35.520 And then he puts it out and goes in towards it, 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.880 and then you don't hear from him again until he weekends. 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:38.360 The same way. 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:42.520 Able is the I am. We've talked about this privately 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:44.880 a bunch, but I love I am such a fan 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:46.600 of people that do it different than how I do 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:49.800 it because I'm like most people. You know, why this something? 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:54.919 I'll this this good one. I used when everybody says 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:57.600 comparison is a thief of joy. I used to always 1:04:57.640 --> 1:04:59.400 look at the way other people would do things, and 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:01.000 if they did it different than me, I had a 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:03.160 natural that was the wrong way to do. 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:05.360 It, that you were doing it the wrong way. They 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:05.840 were doing that. 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.520 Somebody had to be wrong. There's no way that both 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:11.520 could be right correct. And now I've realized that there's 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.000 like I let go that was all ego. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:13.760 There's no rules. 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:15.400 Now I look like there's no rules man. 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.680 It's like whatever your conviction is, to do it, whatever 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:19.680 way you want to do it. 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:21.520 That actually works for you. You know. 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:26.600 It's uh, what the best news I ever heard from 1:05:26.600 --> 1:05:29.200 a trainer. When I sat down with Ian and Uh, 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:32.040 we were talking about getting my weight together, and I 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:33.400 was like, what kind of diet are. 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:38.040 We going on? It's like the one that you'll eat mmmm, 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:39.760 And I was like huh. 1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:42.400 He was like, yeah, man, all that stuff is like, yeah, 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:46.120 does keto work for sure? But can you eat carbs 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:46.919 and still lose weight? 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:47.360 For sure? 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:50.280 Can you do all this? It really comes down to 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.880 what you will stick to, the moderation you're willing to 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:54.720 eat at. If you want to eat nothing but shitty foods, 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:57.040 we can really make that figure out. You're gonna have 1:05:57.080 --> 1:05:59.520 to eat a lot less because this is a calorie 1:05:59.560 --> 1:06:00.000 in calorie. 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:01.600 Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:03.160 But when he put that to me, it's like, I 1:06:03.200 --> 1:06:05.600 feel that same way I walk through life with that. 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:09.960 I used to walk through life like this, keV. Everything 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.720 that I had I held like this, and it served 1:06:13.760 --> 1:06:16.600 me none at all. It only worked against me. I 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:20.600 learned I walked through life like this. I don't hold 1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:22.240 none of that stuff like this no more, you know 1:06:22.240 --> 1:06:23.520 what I mean. I don't have none of those I 1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:27.080 don't have No. I'm not hammered to one ideology. I'm 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:30.240 open to listen to any interpretation anybody has of anything, 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:31.960 to see if I can gain anything from it at 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:35.720 any moment. I'm not like that overly committed anything at 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:36.840 any point anymore. 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:38.560 Yeah, I mean I think you like you're on a 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:40.920 record with Russ. There's a kid named love Russell. Have 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:43.520 you heard of the Russell? Yeah, like the Russell's. He's 1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:47.240 doing this pay what you want live show thing, and 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:49.320 it's like, I've never seen anybody do that. 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:50.080 It's work, dude. 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.600 It's like, go do it the way that you want 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.200 to do it, the way Russell has done it. I 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:56.640 love watching people that do it their own way. 1:06:56.600 --> 1:06:56.800 Yeah. 1:06:57.400 --> 1:07:00.920 I chose to write songs about it, stuff that I 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:02.880 grew up experiencing, and I chose to go out and 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.479 beat the drum about it like this. You know, that's 1:07:05.520 --> 1:07:07.480 just the way I chose to go about it. Yo. 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:11.200 When you write some of these records, man, like it 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:15.320 feels like like you know what I think about like 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:17.600 the records you got with Skyler that is going crazy 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:21.200 on TikTok right now after you get down recording that, 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:25.120 like you wear that on you for a little bit, 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:28.560 Like that's a really like that's a crazy Oh. 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:33.120 Yeah, No, we have sessions. Man, you know you don't 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:34.800 You're not writing the right song if you don't leave 1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:37.080 a piece of it there. Yeah of you there, you. 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:38.320 Know what I mean, if there's not a part of 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:41.600 you that it doesn't stir your soul. The songs that 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:43.160 mean the most to me are the ones that sit 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.240 on my phone and bother me that they're not out, 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.560 Like this was one of those songs. The Skylar record 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:51.080 was like the song with Keith Urban Believe it or not, 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:54.360 was like I just could not quit singing that and 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:56.880 don't mean I don't taste and crave it in every 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.960 corner of my mind right Like that line for whatever reason, 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:02.640 just stuck with me in such a way that I 1:08:02.720 --> 1:08:04.560 was like, if we don't put this song out, like 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:07.000 one of my favorite songs ever. Look it up from 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.720 Red Quick Gooch. You always blow the girl's name wrong, Jamie, 1:08:09.760 --> 1:08:11.880 She's got the two Am song at. 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.720 Two am and I'm still away writing this song. I 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.759 get it all down on paper, it's no longer inside 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:19.040 of me. 1:08:19.160 --> 1:08:19.880 Two am song. 1:08:20.240 --> 1:08:26.639 Yeah, it's called just Breathe two am, Just breathe good. 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:34.479 I can't wait to hear it. Yeah. And she has 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:35.680 a line that goes. 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:40.360 The end of the song goes two am. And I'm 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:43.000 still awake writing this song. If I get it all 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:46.040 out on paper, it's no longer inside of me, threatening 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:46.559 the life. 1:08:46.360 --> 1:08:47.040 It belongs to. 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:51.920 Wow, arguably greatest lyric ever written in a song. I've 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:53.759 been arguing this with people all the time, and whatever 1:08:53.760 --> 1:08:54.960 I mean. There's a lot of other lyric you know, 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:58.160 I could there's other, but like, as a songwriter, I 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:01.320 don't think anybody's ever encapsul how I feel in one 1:09:01.439 --> 1:09:06.400 sentence ever Better then, like songs like past Yesterday drive 1:09:06.479 --> 1:09:09.280 me crazy because I know that they belong to someone 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:12.120 else and I have to get them out. 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:13.080 They're not for me. 1:09:14.000 --> 1:09:15.280 I have a lot of songs that are for me 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:17.280 that will never make it, that are just wasn't either 1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:19.360 written well enough, I just never wrote, or just they 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:19.720 were for. 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:22.720 Me, you know what I mean. But this song, when 1:09:22.720 --> 1:09:25.600 it's really not for you, those are those kinds of songs. 1:09:25.240 --> 1:09:29.360 Man, yo, because you have this Like you know, when 1:09:29.400 --> 1:09:31.800 I was watching the Hulu documentary when it came out, 1:09:31.840 --> 1:09:34.720 there was a part where I don't know if it 1:09:34.760 --> 1:09:38.600 was a grandmother and a daughter, you were approached backstage, 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:41.040 and I forget the exact interaction that ended up happening 1:09:41.160 --> 1:09:44.960 between you and these two fans, but it may like 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:47.040 brought tears to the minds. It was like so crazy, But 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:49.240 I can only imagine for you that's like every day, right, 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:52.200 like there's people out here with signs of you know, 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:55.120 maybe a kid that overdose store. 1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:58.280 This is like if I remember that right, that story 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:01.439 was a murder suicide, yeah, little girl. 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:02.400 It was something. 1:10:02.640 --> 1:10:05.040 It was just a lot, but uh, it was one 1:10:05.080 --> 1:10:06.639 of the one of the hardest stories I've ever heard. 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:08.160 I do hear that stuff a lot. 1:10:08.240 --> 1:10:08.439 Man. 1:10:10.120 --> 1:10:11.800 I just feel honored that I can help people in 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:15.559 such a moment. I'm very empathic, so I feel it. 1:10:15.680 --> 1:10:16.880 I definitely feel it. 1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:18.960 How do you turn off that because you also kind 1:10:18.960 --> 1:10:21.400 of like, you know, you have your own shit to 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:25.120 worry about, so it's like, you know, you're having all 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:27.320 these deep interactions with people, you see, how the whether 1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:30.000 even if it's online like the TikTok response to your record, 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:31.200 it's so crazy. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.000 I'm encouraged by it too, though, because I think that 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:35.640 it's like creating conversations. 1:10:35.800 --> 1:10:37.000 Yeah, I love that. 1:10:37.080 --> 1:10:39.000 Whenever I spoke about Finton all that, Whenever I went 1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:41.080 to the Grammys two weeks later, everybody on the red 1:10:41.080 --> 1:10:42.920 carpet want to just tell me their story about a 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:45.400 family member they had. You know, it's like that kind 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:49.479 of vulnerability because I think once we start letting people 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:52.040 tell their stories, like I don't know how many times 1:10:52.080 --> 1:10:54.640 you share the story about your son and your podcast. 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:54.800 And it's zero. 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.880 Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Like, now there's somebody 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:01.880 who's been watching you for years that's gonna see that, 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:05.000 and like it's gonna impact them different because they're gonna 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:05.960 be like, damn, man. 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:07.479 Him, damn. 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:08.000 You know what I mean. 1:11:08.040 --> 1:11:09.559 Like it's gonna hit different with people. 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:12.880 So like me, creating that kind of vulnerability where people 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:15.680 will have these kind of conversations is Man. 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:17.400 I think it's what I'm actually really here for. 1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:18.360 Pose. 1:11:18.400 --> 1:11:20.240 I think that's truly what my purpose is. 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:23.160 The music and me talking is just a vessel. The 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:25.800 music is just a vessel to create these conversations with 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:29.040 people that normally wouldn't be had, you know what I mean, 1:11:29.680 --> 1:11:34.439 Because now it's like there's we've You've brought a human 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:35.080 element to it. 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:38.479 So Vester Stallone, you said it was the first person 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.120 that commented congrats on the album. 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:43.000 The first person first comments. 1:11:43.120 --> 1:11:48.799 Sulton King slides the best shout out to the Stallone sisters. Systeine, 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:54.439 Yes they are. They came to the show. Is it 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:57.479 Sophia or Sophia. I think it's Sophie Sophie Stallone or 1:11:57.479 --> 1:12:03.760 is it Sophia Stallone? But it's and Sofia and the 1:12:04.080 --> 1:12:07.240 sweetest girls ever, so humble. You never think they grew up, 1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:13.120 Sophia Custine and Sophia Stallone. You would never know they 1:12:13.160 --> 1:12:16.599 were like they just don't act like Sylvester Stallone's kids. 1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:19.559 They just act like two like really humble, cool kids, 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:21.560 you know what I mean. And I say kids like 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:23.479 cause I'm forty and they're in their twenties. Probably you 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:25.880 know what I mean. But they were so sweet. 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:26.040 Man. 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:29.800 Sistine loved Bunny. This is how Bunny changes my life. 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:33.479 As always found me through Bunny. Then seeing they had 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:35.920 a documentary about me on Hulu, it was like, oh well, 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:38.200 this is Bunny's husband, let's see what this is about. 1:12:38.560 --> 1:12:41.839 Loves it, and then like Cistine being a true champion, 1:12:42.040 --> 1:12:45.280 thank you for this forever. Sisteine rallies her family around 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:47.240 one night like, hey, y'all gott to watch this. This 1:12:47.280 --> 1:12:49.720 is a crazy documentary, you know what I mean. And 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:52.080 then they watched the documentary too, so from there on 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:55.360 they were just like and then how the world works 1:12:55.360 --> 1:12:57.760 fast forward. David Glasser is a producer for One on 1:12:57.840 --> 1:13:00.800 One Studios. Met him at State Age Coach. We've been 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:04.400 friends ever since, like talk all the time. It was 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:06.679 so cool because he was like one of those dudes. 1:13:06.720 --> 1:13:09.360 It was like just super nice and humbly and he's like, 1:13:09.400 --> 1:13:10.720 I know I don't talk to people, but I just 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:12.040 want to come say we love your music. And my 1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:14.320 wife his wife was the sweetest woman ever, and he 1:13:14.400 --> 1:13:16.600 was like, yeah, I produced television, man, we should just 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:18.160 you know, whatever, man, anything I can ever do to help, 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:20.479 I'd love to help. We just kind of parted ways. 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:22.000 I didn't think much about it. I text him and 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:23.400 I was like, hey, good to meet you man. He's like, yeah, 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:24.920 lock me in. I'm David glass for One on one 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:27.320 Studios And at that point, I kind of copy and 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:29.680 paste and see this guy is and I'm like, he 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:32.200 does all my favorite shows. So then I hit him like, yo, 1:13:32.240 --> 1:13:34.800 I don't want to be a super whirdo here, but like, 1:13:35.560 --> 1:13:38.000 I think Mike McClusky is one of I think he's 1:13:38.000 --> 1:13:40.920 the new Tony soprano. Right, you watch this show The 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:43.519 King's Down, Yeah, for sure, I think Mike McClusky is 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:46.160 like and then I'm like right, And then he does 1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:47.519 Yellowstone and. 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:50.120 Then they do I haven't watched any of I haven't 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:53.640 watched any of the Yellowstone spinoffs, but yeah, it's crazy. 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:56.320 So then we get to talk about Tulsa King and 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:58.800 he just can tell I won't shut up about it 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:01.160 because I'm just like, this. 1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:04.000 Show is so well thought out. I was like, Sophster 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:07.080 Stallone is back, like he never left. I'm just like, 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:09.080 this show it could do. This show is fire. 1:14:09.520 --> 1:14:10.120 It's great show. 1:14:10.200 --> 1:14:11.200 I don't care who you are. 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:12.360 Now, Plut's got some heat. 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:14.680 You go sit down and watch fucking Tulsa King and 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:16.320 tell me I ain't one of the best shows on TV. 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:19.080 You're fucking litw you know what I mean? It is 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:19.759 so good. 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:22.040 So he was like yeah, and what's so cool about 1:14:22.080 --> 1:14:25.760 David was, h go back to our Paul Rosenberg conversation. 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:27.800 People who just have your back and are men of 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:30.400 their word. Paul told me how my back ten years ago, 1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:33.040 and fuck kept over for ten years. David goes, oh, dude, 1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:35.000 we're shooting the next season in Atlanta. Just drive down 1:14:35.040 --> 1:14:36.720 one day at least come hang out on set. Maybe 1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:38.320 we'll get you in the show. But I'd love to 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:40.640 introduce you to sly. So when he calls Slash, I 1:14:40.640 --> 1:14:42.400 was like, my daughter, Maam, he watched the show. I 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.080 love this guy. Put him on the phone right now. 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:47.640 Let's put him in the show. And immediately, you know it, 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:50.479 like calls me and U slides such a creative on 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:54.200 that show. When he facetimes me, cam Ford him put 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:56.720 us on the phone together. As soon as he face 1:14:56.760 --> 1:14:58.439 times cam Cam hands me the phone. I'm in my 1:14:58.479 --> 1:15:00.519 Dunkin Donut commercial, so I'm already having a weird day. 1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:02.479 I'm like, this is crazy. I'm doing a Dunkin Donut 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:06.559 commercial right now. And Sylvester Stalon's on the FaceTime and uh, 1:15:07.040 --> 1:15:09.000 He's like, this is my idea, and he shoots his 1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:11.360 idea at me right then on the phone. I'm like, 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:13.400 I'm gonna like, mistake you for a janitor, and we're 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:15.080 gonna like, let me put some egg on my face. 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:17.360 It'll be funny. I'm gonna set you up to you 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:19.439 know what I mean. It was really cool. It was like. 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:23.800 I hate to keep circling back to previous conversations, but 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:27.120 I love podcasts that have themes. It's like Austin theory. 1:15:27.640 --> 1:15:30.639 Like I realized right then that Sylvester Stallone putting you over, 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:32.200 he just was putting me over, dude. He just wanted 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:34.000 me to look as good as I could, you know 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:35.280 what I mean, And like he was just in a 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:36.600 place where that's what his heart was. 1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:38.880 And I'll forever clip. 1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:40.000 This and send this to me so I can send 1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:43.080 this to him and his family because thank you forever. 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:46.360 Selvestro. Acting next, I want to do it so bad. Yeah, 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:47.439 I want to do it so well. 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:49.360 You know, I'm gonna just move to LA and try 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:51.160 get a little acting coach and stand in line. 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:53.080 You're gonna get typecasted like a motherfucker. 1:15:53.120 --> 1:15:55.760 And the prison, Oh, I'm gonna be every fucking But 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:56.960 you know what I told him, I was like, if 1:15:56.960 --> 1:15:58.720 they ever knew the prisoner of a Mary Kingstown. I'll 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:01.320 be a prisoner for y'all. Oh yeah, Now i'd go 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:03.280 to play a cricket cop or real cop. 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:05.840 A crookeedt cop would be fun. 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:07.920 Oh I might get in trouble for telling this story. 1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:11.120 Yeah. Have you ever seen the rookie the ricky? No 1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:14.839 rookie on a Oh the rookie no like her family. 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:17.439 You know, I'm aware of the show like a dramed 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:19.599 I'm aware of the show. Yeah. 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:20.120 I love it. 1:16:20.160 --> 1:16:21.880 Me and my wife and daughter watch it all the time. 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:24.080 I was gonna get to be on this season, dude. 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:26.920 I had the coolest scene ever. I wasn't jelly rolled. 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:29.720 I was like something else. I was gonna go get 1:16:29.720 --> 1:16:31.720 to be on the watch be a part of my 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:36.880 favorite show. And I thought. I had a gallbladder attack 1:16:37.000 --> 1:16:39.280 the night the day before we flew to the point 1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:41.200 that I went to the hospital and I missed the scene. 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:46.519 Oh shit, but that's the next thing to try to tackle. Yeah, 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:47.519 man acting. 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:51.360 Yeah, well, dude, that's like my daughter like, bust my 1:16:51.520 --> 1:16:52.280 balls about that. 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:55.920 Now, when you do a twenty eight song project, you 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:58.439 have a lot of songs to work, So I feel like, 1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:02.200 is it safe to say that this album is gonna 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:03.519 live with us for a little bit. 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:06.120 I can tell you that I'm not an you know, 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:07.960 we were talking about the artists that take their time to 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:08.639 put out albums. 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:10.960 Yeah, I'm gonna take my time to put. 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:12.040 Out my next album. Yeah. 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:14.400 I hope Beautifully Broken can suffice people for a while 1:17:14.400 --> 1:17:16.160 because I'm gonna go get I'm gonna do some acting. 1:17:16.640 --> 1:17:22.360 I'm gonna really focus on now. M hm, you're getting 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:23.280 good stuff today for me. 1:17:24.160 --> 1:17:26.960 My next goal, too, is that the next hundred pounds 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:28.840 I want to lose a little different than the first hundred. 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:34.720 The first hundred was just head down, eat right, drink water, exercise, 1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:37.240 get it off. I want to start lifting. I want 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:39.080 to make sure that when I do lose the next 1:17:39.200 --> 1:17:41.040 hundred pounds out of the body. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't 1:17:41.080 --> 1:17:42.400 look I don't want to look weird. 1:17:42.479 --> 1:17:43.639 So so that's the next thing. 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:46.080 That's the next thing. Focus on health, focus on acting, 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:47.920 and really slow rite the albums. 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:50.679 Yeah, I mean, dude, it's it feels like an album 1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:51.439 full of singles. 1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:53.040 Yeah, it's pretty crazy to go. 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.280 Just keep working this album, man, take it slow, just 1:17:55.320 --> 1:17:59.839 keep pushing Beautifully Broken. Festivals only next year and travel abroad. 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:04.080 Yo U would you obviously? And you're not gonna stop 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:07.519 doing features though, like the go to feature. I feel 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:09.599 like you're becoming like a go to guy. 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:14.920 Kel told me I was the White Way, and in twenty. 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:17.720 Eleven, it's what it's feeling that way, That's what MGK said. 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.960 I loved him for it, but uh now, I'm always up. 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:22.519 I'm a collaborative guy. So somebody, especially if a friend 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:24.599 of mine or somebody I really adore sends me a record, 1:18:24.640 --> 1:18:25.160 I'm always in. 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:26.320 Would you ever do another? 1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:26.759 Whaling? 1:18:26.800 --> 1:18:27.960 And Willie would Struggle. 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:29.680 And Struggling are definitely gonna do another. We got a 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:31.080 single coming out next year that we're gonna go to 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:33.320 the country radio with his single feature of meat Fire. 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:36.360 He's I'm proud of struggle Man one. He's just he's 1:18:36.360 --> 1:18:37.880 putting out a great body of work right now. He's 1:18:37.880 --> 1:18:40.080 fixing to go out on tour. Struggles just always work 1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:42.599 and he's been I didn't get him on this album, 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:46.040 and it was kind of intentionally. I've had him on 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:48.360 every album I've ever done, and I think that I 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:50.880 wanted to let him have. He toured with me last year, yep, 1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:54.720 and we intentionally was like, Yo, take a year, go 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:56.120 out there and you know what I mean. 1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:59.720 And and and kind of like grab grab your people in. 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:02.600 For sure, like go out there and plan because you 1:19:02.640 --> 1:19:04.360 haven't even got to go plan this flag yetty and 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:06.519 so with and then he'll go do a couple of 1:19:06.600 --> 1:19:09.800 headliners himself with his artists like Caitlyn Curtis and them, 1:19:09.920 --> 1:19:12.679 but he hasn't, like, you know, I'm such a I'll 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:14.680 block off half that dude schedule every year with my 1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:18.000 ship for sure, you know what I mean. So it's like, dude, 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:21.320 go go keep building, drop money, Carlo, drop these records 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:24.040 that you've been working on El Camino, Drop money Carlo 1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:27.240 and uh, and then we'll double back around and catch 1:19:27.280 --> 1:19:29.439 a Weathering and Willy probably in the next year, next 1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:31.160 couple of years. Could you see he'll go on my next, 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:33.600 my next, my next American tours a year after the 1:19:33.640 --> 1:19:35.280 next twenty six he'll be up for me for sure. 1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:37.200 I'm gonna take them abroad wherever I can, wherever I 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:37.519 can get. 1:19:38.080 --> 1:19:39.800 Could you see yourself doing another hip hop album? 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:45.280 I don't know, man, I don't I don't have If 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:46.920 you get you you'd have to probably get the itch 1:19:47.040 --> 1:19:49.479 right like something I'd have to really, yeah, something would 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:52.880 like and I would spend a lot of time thinking 1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:54.240 about what the subject matter was. 1:19:57.400 --> 1:20:00.800 I wrapped about certain things for so long that I 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:03.080 wouldn't even know how to. And I was always so 1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:05.720 honest in my raps that I don't know if I 1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:08.120 would even be allowed that kind of honesty right now 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:09.040 in my life, you know. 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:11.479 Yo, I mean, I don't know. I just don't know. Man, 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:13.160 I don't have the itch at all. Well, we're talking 1:20:13.200 --> 1:20:14.559 about this some people's hearts out there. 1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:17.040 There's so much money, there's so many deals. 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:19.240 I would rather do a hook for Big Exes album, 1:20:19.320 --> 1:20:21.479 which I'm working on. Oh so you're I'm working on 1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:23.400 a Big X record. I would rather do something for 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:25.800 Mexican O T. I would rather work with Joiner again. 1:20:25.840 --> 1:20:27.160 I would rather work with him again. 1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:27.800 That makes sense. 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:30.280 I would rather like keep I think I'm bringing more 1:20:30.400 --> 1:20:32.280 value to hip hop right now than I ever brought 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:32.840 to hip hop. 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:34.719 And I hadn't wrapped a bar in five years. 1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:36.800 So it's like, I think I just want to keep 1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:38.360 doing that because I think I'm really I want to 1:20:38.400 --> 1:20:40.479 do another Tech nine record. I want to make sure 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:42.400 that I want to I want to help hip hop 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:44.599 and them, I think I don't think I would help 1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:46.200 hip hop by trying to be hip hop. 1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:49.519 Well, and I think too like you're like, like you said, 1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:53.479 you're doctor d calls, You're I mean you're to me, 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:55.360 you're you're a pretty genrealist man. I feel like you've 1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:56.400 kind of always been that way. 1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:58.400 So it's like sure, and like that's a big one, 1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:00.400 you know what I mean, that's huge, Like to work 1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:02.720 with somebody like Rod now you know what I mean, 1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:08.120 like goa happen. But yeah, that's my heart. Maybe one 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:10.639 day I'd love to wrap on somebody else's stuff for fun. 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:13.040 I always joke with all my rapper homies like if 1:21:13.040 --> 1:21:14.800 you ever get one, it really makes sense, you know 1:21:14.840 --> 1:21:16.960 what I mean, maybe like slide a little sneaky twelve 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:18.479 in somewhere and see if I still got it. 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:20.200 Yo, it's can you can you speak? 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:22.240 Struggle could get it out of I mean struggle at him. 1:21:22.560 --> 1:21:24.680 They could get it out of the probably maybe Wolf, Yeah, 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:25.960 Wolf could get it out of him. Yeah. But but 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:28.880 once again, I think I would do Wolf more by like. 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:31.720 Trailer in the Skyhook, which was great. Wolf wrapped and 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:33.640 I did. I just think I bring more value to 1:21:33.720 --> 1:21:34.840 the song by doing what I do. 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.400 Yeah, it is whild Do you still have a ton 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:40.800 of those Day One like fans who maybe because you know, 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:43.280 you are a part of this like underground hip hop 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:48.920 uh world that was very niche. It was like and 1:21:49.040 --> 1:21:50.439 I was a part of that world, you know, with 1:21:50.760 --> 1:21:53.400 Ritz and Wolf and yourself, and you know, we can 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:54.840 go on and on and on. I guess like what 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:57.120 would call that kind of like the white the like 1:21:57.439 --> 1:21:58.679 twenty ten white rapper. 1:21:58.960 --> 1:22:01.240 Yeah, there was an air underground like rapper things. 1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:05.720 Everybody was going all the famous white rappers are going 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:09.360 at each other. But it's like, like, do you still 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:12.040 see those same things because you were talking about back 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:14.360 in the day you would give pizza in Knoxville to 1:22:14.479 --> 1:22:16.599 the people standing outside when you'd sell out, and you're like, yo, 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:18.120 we should do that again. But like, do you still 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:20.640 run into those crazy like Day one fans who? 1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:22.559 Oh yeah all the time? Man, they're awesome. I went 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:24.760 to the DMV. I was home. I've been home two 1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:27.080 days in the last one hundred days. They were just 1:22:27.200 --> 1:22:28.080 like four days ago. 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:31.479 Walking to the DMV, I've been in there thirty seconds, right, 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.280 and I'm just looking for somebody I know to go Hey, 1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:36.000 it's not letting me set this up online. I'm only 1:22:36.040 --> 1:22:37.160 in town for a day. I need to bring my 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:38.760 daughter to get a license, which I am proud to 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:42.479 announce on the Bootleg CAF podcast. My sixteen year old daughter, 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:44.559 Bailey Anne, is now a licensed driver. 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:47.920 Congrats, it's a huge deal. Thank you, A huge deal. 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:52.560 So I walk in, the first person I see is 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:55.960 a dude with a Jelly Roll shirt. Not making this up. 1:22:56.240 --> 1:22:58.720 First dude, I mean. I run into him and I'm like, 1:22:58.800 --> 1:22:59.120 what's up. 1:22:59.160 --> 1:22:59.720 He's like David. 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:02.040 I mean, he's ghost white. You could tell he's like 1:23:02.160 --> 1:23:04.200 been with me a long time. He immediately shows me 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.640 like a a game bad Apple blended tag like my 1:23:12.720 --> 1:23:14.840 sorry two of like the original brands that we tried 1:23:14.880 --> 1:23:17.240 to take off. And uh, He's like, I got a 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:18.840 brother in the car and you meet him. I was like, yell, 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:20.200 let me go talk to this person. I meet him 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:22.760 on the way out. So I take a couple of 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:25.679 pictures and I meet the DMV people are so sweet, 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:27.679 too many girl I know. Immediately gets with the manager 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.320 I know, and they hooked me up what I needed. 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:31.479 I leave and I meet his brother on the way out, 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:33.559 and his brother goes, now, you don't get me wrong, 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.040 I like this album of years, but when you're gonna 1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:37.439 drop some. 1:23:37.520 --> 1:23:39.160 Of that good good shit again? 1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:43.599 And I go, good good shit, you know, and he goes, 1:23:43.680 --> 1:23:47.559 you know what I'm talking about? This stuffs and he shook, 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:49.679 I need you to do something with Haystack. 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:51.920 He was like, He's like, I'm talking about it, and 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:55.760 I said, listen, man, don't take this wrong, sir. I 1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:57.760 don't want to sound like Andre three thousand. I'm get 1:23:57.800 --> 1:24:01.679 in trouble here, but at a forty years old would 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:04.560 as soon to be college kid, I'm not sure what 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:06.680 I would rap about, you know what I mean. I'm 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:08.320 not sure that people would even want to hear what 1:24:08.400 --> 1:24:09.000 I rapped about. 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:10.560 Right now. It's like, you know what I mean, Like, 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:14.679 you're not gonna rap about slanging freaking crack, yeah, for sure. 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:17.759 Like slaming pussy, you know what I mean. Those days are. 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:22.280 It's like, it's like, you know, I'm not gonna rap 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:24.000 about I don't know. I guess I could rap about 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:25.680 what's happening in my life now, but I'm kind of 1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:27.679 you know, I don't know. I'm having more. 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:30.160 Fun telling other people's stories. Yeah, and I don't. 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:31.880 I've never done that in hip hop. I've only kind 1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:34.439 of expressed self, so I'd have to find my way 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:34.760 into it. 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.960 Are you still when you have you know your background 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:39.840 that you have and I'm sure a friend group of 1:24:40.160 --> 1:24:43.120 a certain you know amount of people who may or 1:24:43.160 --> 1:24:46.880 may not be up to criminal activities. You know, when 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:49.000 you come from that lifestyle, you fall out with people. 1:24:49.080 --> 1:24:52.800 But when you have this meteoric rise to fame, it 1:24:52.960 --> 1:24:57.200 feels like the people who are closest to you or 1:24:57.240 --> 1:25:00.280 where you're from, usually in hip hop, of course worse, 1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:03.479 you get the most hate from you know, you didn't 1:25:03.479 --> 1:25:04.360 bring me up with you, do you? 1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:04.640 Like? 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:07.160 Like, how do you deal with that shit? Doug, Because 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:09.680 like even me and on whatever level of success I have, 1:25:10.040 --> 1:25:11.320 I deal with that shit all the time. 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.679 Man. It's it's really hard. It hurts. 1:25:13.800 --> 1:25:15.600 Thanks for bringing this up because it's probably one of 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:17.800 the thorns on my side of life that it took 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:20.760 me a while to forgive myself for not being able 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.640 to do everything for everybody. But somebody told me you 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:26.519 can't be everything to everybody, you know what I mean? 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:30.599 And I just started forgiving myself and giving myself grace 1:25:31.360 --> 1:25:33.280 you know where it's like. Look, man, if you think 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:37.200 that I'm responsible for bringing somebody up, your mentality is wrong. 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:37.679 Anyways. 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:47.200 Yeah, Like I remember been a time where my entire 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:52.120 world felt like it relied on the actions of another man. 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:55.120 You know, does that make sense? 1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:56.000 It makes a lot of sense. 1:25:57.160 --> 1:25:58.880 That's not the way to go through life. 1:25:58.960 --> 1:25:59.120 Man. 1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:03.639 If you if your success is dependent on anybody at all, 1:26:04.160 --> 1:26:06.679 you were in the wrong. You're in the wrong area 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:09.559 searching for it. So if you're looking for a homie 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:11.160 to do this for you, or you got your buddy 1:26:11.240 --> 1:26:12.920 that's doing this, that he might be able to give 1:26:12.920 --> 1:26:15.160 you a look, or this guy might be able to 1:26:15.240 --> 1:26:18.000 do this for you. If you're one of those people, 1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:20.280 that mentality is going to tear you down. That's that 1:26:20.400 --> 1:26:23.280 street stuff that tourists down for years. It's also the 1:26:23.320 --> 1:26:27.840 same street stuff that'll have you. I was thinking about 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.479 this the other day, that the streets will train you 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:33.120 to let somebody come in your house and shoot your 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.160 child and you not call the police on them. 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:40.120 Think about just now, that I'm an adult, and I 1:26:40.200 --> 1:26:43.040 even say that back out loud, I go, how did 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.720 I believe that? How did I buy into that, you 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:47.160 know what I mean, Like, how did I even let 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:50.160 that become a thought? All that stuff works hand in 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:52.160 hand to me. All that is, all of those are 1:26:52.200 --> 1:26:57.559 the same language. The other languages I look for now 1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.880 that I'm very I pay attention to language now, keV, 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:01.240 that'll do you know what I mean. 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:04.719 It's like entitlement words. 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:06.680 Oh yeah, Entitlement's the worst, man. 1:27:06.960 --> 1:27:08.840 You know, these are the things that are like or 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:11.400 even friends who are like. I had a friend tell 1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.920 me recently, he's like, you change, man, don't act like 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:17.000 you're not different. And I'm and I had to really 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:18.880 take perspective of that because it hurt my feelings. But 1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:20.280 then I thought, I was that he's totally right. I 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:23.080 have Yeah, well, because there's no way you have this 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:25.160 kind of schedule and this kind of clarity and you're 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:27.200 working this hard with this kind of a mission and 1:27:27.240 --> 1:27:30.960 purpose and there just not be changes that happen like yeah, 1:27:30.960 --> 1:27:33.479 I've changed. I've got five hundred and thirty seven unread 1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:35.639 text messages. If yours is one of them, I'm sorry. 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:37.720 Yeah, you know what I mean, Like one hundred and 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:39.920 eighty people whose mouths I have to feel like. 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:41.479 There's one hundred and eighty people that are counting on 1:27:41.560 --> 1:27:43.680 me to make sure everything that stage right. And that's 1:27:43.720 --> 1:27:45.760 not counting the fourteen thousand people that came here to 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:48.479 get served. You know, there's they're like, we look at 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:50.560 this like church, man, we're here to serve, dude, that 1:27:50.720 --> 1:27:53.240 we're not here to do anything but serve. We are 1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:56.519 here to try to make people leave this building feeling better. 1:27:57.240 --> 1:28:00.479 You're viral to address the Congress I thought was one 1:28:00.479 --> 1:28:04.560 of the most just beautiful moments, dude, Like it was 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:06.720 fucking insane. I know you've talked about it a lot. 1:28:07.200 --> 1:28:09.519 I know that there was a bill that ended up 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:10.639 getting passed right. 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:13.720 That it did the fend dolphin all that was put 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:17.040 in the law. I wonder I'll tell you a story 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:18.800 about that off camera. Remind me got you? 1:28:19.120 --> 1:28:22.559 I wonder, like for you, you do have so much 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:27.439 good grace, so much influence right now, Like is that 1:28:28.240 --> 1:28:30.080 like an area in which you're you want to still 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:31.680 kind of be active in terms of. 1:28:32.000 --> 1:28:34.599 Oh yeah, man, I definitely want to just I want 1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:36.920 to go use my ah No, that was the one 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:38.759 and done for me unless they need me for something 1:28:38.760 --> 1:28:41.840 that I'm convicted about. As you can imagine, every Senator 1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:43.960 on America called me send us an email the next 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:48.479 week with the calls, but uh, I'm just wasn't interested. Yeah, 1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:52.240 I'm very specific into I don't like politics. 1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:52.800 I just never have. 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:55.160 I mean, you can't even vote, right, Yeah, I can't vote. 1:28:55.200 --> 1:28:57.080 I don't have your a feeling. Yes stuff, whoever, somebody 1:28:57.120 --> 1:28:57.760 giving my right. 1:28:57.920 --> 1:28:59.439 Vote back and we'll start to go, Yeah, that's what 1:28:59.520 --> 1:28:59.800 we'll talk. 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:05.080 But I'm an ally in need of things that I know, right, 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:07.120 you know, I'm just also big about not talking about 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:10.400 shit I don't know. Yeah, I knew that particular subject 1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:12.000 pretty well. There's a couple of other subjects that if 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:13.840 it really came up, I'd be willing to go try 1:29:13.880 --> 1:29:17.439 to speak about. But I just want to make sure 1:29:17.479 --> 1:29:19.720 that our people had a voice that day. That was 1:29:19.840 --> 1:29:21.400 real simple for me, you know what I mean? 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:26.120 Yeah, I think too. It's like, you know, going back 1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:28.880 to what we're talking about the AA meetings, and you know, 1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:33.680 having family members who are addicts, like legitimately people look 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:36.200 at and I just heard you talk about this, but 1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:40.519 people don't acknowledge addicts who are in a really low 1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:44.680 places like people. They really dehumanize them. And and you know, 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:47.640 I think I think that's stat that. Like, to me, 1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:50.400 that was like an important moment to like shake people 1:29:50.479 --> 1:29:52.519 up and me like, yo, there's like you know the 1:29:52.600 --> 1:29:53.679 airplane reference you made. 1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:56.280 Yeah, the airplane reference is real. That many people die 1:29:56.400 --> 1:30:01.479 day as a plane crash. And it's because we've long 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:04.360 had this thing in America where we look at everybody 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:07.080 as a it's a personal thing. 1:30:07.479 --> 1:30:08.719 We have no sense of community. 1:30:08.800 --> 1:30:11.920 No more is to be more, have more tribalism in 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:15.360 America than we've ever had, to have more tribalism in 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:17.080 America than we've ever had. I feel like we have 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.160 less community than we've ever had. 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:21.080 And you know what's crazy is most of the major 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:22.200 shit we all agree on. 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:24.000 Yeah, right, it's crazy. 1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:25.600 But think about it, like I don't. I think I 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:28.559 think we all agree that like our tax dollars, we'd 1:30:28.640 --> 1:30:31.320 like to kind of know that they're helping you know, 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:35.680 us a little, you know, not getting you know, sent 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:36.840 over to fight O. 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:40.280 That's yeah, one percent, it's just you know, but once again, 1:30:40.360 --> 1:30:42.559 it's like back to that point, we've lost our sense 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:45.000 of real like community, you know what I mean. 1:30:45.000 --> 1:30:47.360 So divided everybody. It's like, dude, if we don't agree 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:50.599 on this one thing. It doesn't mean that we can't 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:52.000 agree on this or we can't have beer. 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:54.599 You can't you know, man, or just say, hey man, 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.720 we just don't agree about that. Let's talk about something 1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:57.240 we do agree with. 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.439 Yeah, we could. I wish we would just focus a 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.519 little more to on the things that we do agree about. 1:31:01.560 --> 1:31:02.959 We can make so much more progress. 1:31:03.640 --> 1:31:05.240 All right, let's quit arguing about the stuff we don't 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:06.880 agree about for a few minutes, and the four or 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:09.599 five things that we all agree about, let's go forward 1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:12.519 with that. But yeah, back to the addict talk. I 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:14.400 say that because we look at them like, ah, they 1:31:14.520 --> 1:31:17.000 chose to get on drugs. Fucked them, you know what 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:19.280 I mean. It's like, but like, nah, man, that's bootleg. 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:22.240 Kev's son's mother, you know what I mean, Like this 1:31:22.439 --> 1:31:23.840 is so much more bigger than her. 1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:27.400 Let's think about her son, thinking about how it affected 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:30.040 her mother, how it affected keV, how it affected Kev's wife. 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:33.360 Kev's wife had to marry into a whole situation for Svins, 1:31:33.360 --> 1:31:35.439 an eleven year old young man, to be a mother. 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:37.000 It's like this is you. 1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:41.200 Then you start seeing the the true impact the you know, 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:45.280 the uh, the drug addict is is not the victim here, 1:31:45.800 --> 1:31:47.120 you know what I mean, that's not and I'm not 1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:51.760 saying that they're the the the aggressor neither what you know, 1:31:51.920 --> 1:31:54.439 the but saying that, you know, the victims of drug 1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:57.800 addiction are so much murther further we change that we 1:31:57.920 --> 1:32:00.360 state this the right way. The victims of drug addiction 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:02.120 her so much more than just the just. 1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:02.800 The drug addict. 1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:06.000 It's the family drug addict is a victim of drug addiction. 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:08.760 So it's like the victim of drug addiction is so 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:10.360 much more than just the drug addict. 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:13.680 How do you how do you because you know, with 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:17.880 the last few years, man, I'm assuming like you need 1:32:17.960 --> 1:32:21.920 your wife more than ever now, right, how do you guys? Like, 1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:25.240 how is your guys' relationship evolved? Uh? With with the 1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:29.200 new success like that, like and her own success as 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:32.360 a as an entity on her own, her podcast is massive. 1:32:32.160 --> 1:32:35.719 Funny's podcast is huge, Bunny's Patreon is huge, Bunny's TikTok 1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:36.479 is bigger than mine. 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:39.880 But she's going crazy. I mean, she she really, I mean, 1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:42.880 correct me, I'm wrong, but she kind of broke the sky, 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:45.439 the gray record. It was her TikTok, right, it was her. Sure. 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.280 What's even cooler about that was I sent Bunny the 1:32:48.320 --> 1:32:51.680 album and said, if any of these songs touch you 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:53.760 in any way that you want to post them and 1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:55.639 help me out, please, you know. I'm just like, I'm 1:32:55.760 --> 1:32:58.120 We're that kind of with each other, and buddies like, 1:32:58.160 --> 1:32:59.960 she's like, she's my Wife's like, I'm gonna post something. 1:33:00.000 --> 1:33:02.120 I got you, no problem. And then when she did that, 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:04.040 I was like, oh, man, because you know, Bunny had 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:06.080 never shared that side of her story a lot, and 1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:08.320 I won't either because that's her story to too, of course, 1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:11.400 but I wrote that thinking about her and she knew that. 1:33:11.600 --> 1:33:13.160 So for her to like be like, you know what, man, 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:15.160 I'm gonna stand on this now. For all we know 1:33:15.280 --> 1:33:17.720 about Bunny. When her book comes out, we're gonna find 1:33:17.760 --> 1:33:19.240 out that we don't know about Bunny, you know what 1:33:19.280 --> 1:33:19.519 I mean. 1:33:19.760 --> 1:33:21.840 She's like, Bunny's been through a lot more than even 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:25.200 she tells, so her connecting with the song. But dude, 1:33:25.840 --> 1:33:28.720 we see each other less, but we are communicate more. 1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:30.920 And that's kind of the rule, is that if you're 1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:32.320 not gonna be able to see each other and spend 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.599 time together, we got to fill in the communication blank. 1:33:35.200 --> 1:33:37.160 So every night we'll talk for hours if we're on 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:39.120 the phone. If we're not together and just catch up. 1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:42.920 We still prioritize making time for each other. It's just 1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:43.800 important things to do. 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:46.639 Man, any new brand deals on the way, Hey dude, 1:33:46.680 --> 1:33:47.719 do you see my hate dude shoe? 1:33:48.120 --> 1:33:49.880 I did not or that with these. 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:51.519 These are the hate dudes. 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:54.320 This one was a piss dirty one because I'm wearing it. 1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:58.280 Everyone was great, but dude, I'm sure, hey, dou won't 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:03.200 mind me, but you don't worry. On the inside it 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:05.439 says made for the beautifully broken. I mean, these are 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:08.639 just cool. I love Hey dudes, we wear them anyways 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:11.920 or it's just insanely comfortable, and uh, we did a 1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:13.640 deal with them, but I'm sure they won't mind me 1:34:13.680 --> 1:34:15.800 saying that we're we It wasn't a one off. 1:34:15.840 --> 1:34:17.960 We got like we're doing a big deal with day Dude. 1:34:17.880 --> 1:34:20.519 Like everybody who's like, we only did a very limited 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:23.360 drop for the album. Maybe too limited in hindsight, because 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:24.640 I've seen a lot of people that were upset, and 1:34:24.640 --> 1:34:26.559 I don't like to upset people. Like I'm not trying 1:34:26.560 --> 1:34:28.720 to be a rare drop artist. You know, I'm for 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:30.960 everybody all the time is how I always want to be. 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:36.080 But we maybe slightly under anticipated what the demand could 1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:39.000 be too. But we also wasn't worried about it because hey, 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:40.240 dude and I know that we're in this for the 1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:42.320 long haul, like we've got we've got a future together. 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:45.080 We're we got we got year's worth of plans together 1:34:45.160 --> 1:34:46.880 already in motion of drops every year. 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:47.559 So don't worry. 1:34:47.720 --> 1:34:49.800 It's gonna be good, man, it's probably. I mean, I 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:51.720 got a lot, you know. The Dunkin donut commercial was cool. 1:34:51.720 --> 1:34:52.599 I don't have a Dunkin. 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:54.320 Deals tak a donut shit, it's crazy. Well, I feel 1:34:54.360 --> 1:34:56.080 like they need to give you your own item on 1:34:56.200 --> 1:34:56.880 the maybe. 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:00.439 Dunk and holler at me. Y'all know how much I 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.320 loved working with y'all. It was an absolute ball. 1:35:03.760 --> 1:35:04.840 Or a McDonald's meal. 1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:07.680 Yeah, oh listen, you can have your own McDonald's. Oh 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:08.320 that's a big one. 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:08.639 You remember. 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:10.519 I remember when Travis gott got his first McDonald mill. 1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:13.160 I was like, get out of kas just dropped the 1:35:13.200 --> 1:35:15.160 flame sent you, I know, and did it with John 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:17.960 Cena talking about a big flex. Nobody's bigger than him. 1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:19.360 He had John con to come to his house. 1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:21.639 Dude, come on, what would be that's the only way 1:35:21.720 --> 1:35:24.080 you go to kind do that is fair? He's the king. 1:35:24.479 --> 1:35:25.760 I would you guys talk to me? 1:35:26.160 --> 1:35:26.880 No, please intro. 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:29.280 I don't know him. 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:30.559 Oh I want to know him. 1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:31.439 So he's so funny. 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:33.679 I think he's hilarious. Dude. I know Aiden. I talked 1:35:33.720 --> 1:35:35.479 to Aiden every now and then. I think he's funny too. 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:35.720 Man. 1:35:36.320 --> 1:35:37.760 I love that whole stream culture. Man. 1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:40.439 It is it's it's It's interesting because the only time 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:42.879 I met Aidan Ross I met him at a Dre's 1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:46.040 I was I was there in the VIP and he 1:35:46.200 --> 1:35:48.280 was live on the internet and I was there with 1:35:48.360 --> 1:35:51.200 fifty seven. I was just like, ah, fuck, we're like 1:35:51.280 --> 1:35:53.600 on the internet right now and with like hundreds of 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:57.080 thousands of people, and I'm fucking shroomed out, blowed all. 1:35:57.000 --> 1:35:59.760 The way back with fifty fifty. Such a fifty fan. 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:00.600 What would be? 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:02.240 Anything happened with me and Aidan? By the way, he 1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:05.360 was at a casino Heland. Yeah, dude, I was playing 1:36:05.400 --> 1:36:08.920 with Exposed and Nick Nick Marks. Yeah, we were over 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:11.799 there gambling together and then they was like Aiden Rosses 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:13.519 in the other room. He once you come, say what's up? 1:36:13.560 --> 1:36:15.040 And I walked in and said hi, just because I'm 1:36:15.040 --> 1:36:17.839 a fan. And I looked up and of course he's gambling, 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.559 but he's you know, they're they're there's training him gambling. 1:36:20.600 --> 1:36:22.680 I was like, oh, this is crazy. I looked up 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:24.519 and he was cool. He's like dub Jelly in the 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:26.160 chatch all and everybody gave me the dog. 1:36:26.040 --> 1:36:29.759 Was like, oh cool, cool. Well listen dude, number one album. 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:32.200 Oh God Willing, Baby, God Willing. If you're watching this, 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:37.760 we we it's it's for sure beautifully broken. Uh. I'm 1:36:37.800 --> 1:36:38.519 just proud of you, man. 1:36:39.479 --> 1:36:41.080 I'm glad we do a pot. We hang a short 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:43.040 time with a few years. 1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:45.519 So what about the dog? Can I wonder you don't 1:36:45.560 --> 1:36:46.960 need one of them cameras right now. I wonder if 1:36:46.960 --> 1:36:48.680 he can be seen just dogging out right? 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:49.679 He slept. 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:54.040 I love this dog, bust dog. Yeah, he's been the 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:56.440 star of your your daily. 1:36:56.680 --> 1:37:00.880 Daily roud, He's He's the most love thing on this tour. 1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:03.280 I'm you know, I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little 1:37:03.280 --> 1:37:05.719 surprised there's no bus dog Merchip dude. 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:07.320 So we're trying to get it inflatable to put in 1:37:07.360 --> 1:37:09.400 front of the venues for the last twenty shows. That 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:11.120 would be fine dog. 1:37:11.320 --> 1:37:12.559 His fans know about their dogs. 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:14.960 Yeah, they love bust Dog. Yeah, bust Dog is a 1:37:14.960 --> 1:37:16.599 big deal. Dude, he's a hit. 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:19.160 He was on the dunking Donald's commercial. That's the more 1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:20.320 they knocked on the door earlier. 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:22.599 He was bringing some men for the Bust Dog. Oh oh, 1:37:22.680 --> 1:37:24.519 that's a Bustdog gift. He gets way more in the 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:25.200 Tiffany bag. 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:27.839 Wow, that's crazy. 1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:29.000 We don't know what's in there. 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:31.160 Well listen, man, I'm super fucking proud of you, man, 1:37:31.200 --> 1:37:35.120 I'm happy for you. Congrats on everything. You deserve it all, brother, 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:35.960 Thank you brother. 1:37:36.080 --> 1:37:38.479 Halfway through the tour, yes, sir, halfway through twenty something 1:37:38.479 --> 1:37:39.400 shows left twenty six. 1:37:39.520 --> 1:37:41.639 If you're watching this, and I will say this, man, 1:37:41.760 --> 1:37:42.800 best best show of the year. 1:37:43.160 --> 1:37:45.000 Who come see it, baby, Yes, sir. 1:37:45.360 --> 1:37:45.880 Jelly Row