1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted and Merry Christmas. From 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford and Wes Hodkwitz from Packers dot Com. We're 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field 4 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: and West. We are back from New Jersey. The Packers, 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: for the first and only time in get a victory 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: on the road. And it doesn't come easy, not that 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: we thought it would, but thirty eight in overtime, a 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: big fourth quarter comeback by Green Bay in this one 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: to get the sixth win of the season. I don't 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: know where you want to start as far as this comeback, 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: because there was a lot that went into it on 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Bottom line was the Packers 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: were down thirty with one order to play, and they 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: came back and got the job done. Here's what I 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: really liked about this win for the Packers. They out 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: offensed the Jets. The Packers defense, I think, as Joe 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Films said, they made some plays when they needed to. 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you go back 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: a tale as old as time. It's Aaron Rodgers making 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: plays and it's guys around him. The skill position players 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: doing their part. Was talking to Corey Linsley after the game, 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: and he said, you know it was it was I'm 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: not gonna use his exact terminology, but it was frustrating 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: where they were at in the middle of the third 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: quarter because they felt like they've done some good things, 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: but they just didn't have that juice they needed juice. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: And with Rogers playing the way he did in the 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: final I guess if you call at the overtime, probably 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: final five minutes of that contest, you had Jamal Williams 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: step up a hundred and fifty six total yards and 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown. You had, for the first time ever in 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: franchise history, five different guys have sixty receiving yards in 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: this contest, each one of them playing a part in 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: addition to that, drawing some defensive pass interfere its penalties 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: that ended up being really important when the Packers needed 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: to rally. This team rallied, and I think it was 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: kind of a heat check on Rogers and and everybody 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: you can talk forever about wanting to play out the 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: season and in pride and jersey and everything like that. 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: When you're down fifteen points, Mike and everything's going against 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: you against the team that's four and ten that's the 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: ultimate gut check, and the Packers were able to pass 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: that test. I think what was perhaps even more impressive 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: than when you say down fifteen and the fourth quarter, 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: as we've been talking about here, after the Packers had 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: the early fourth quarter drive, kicked a field goal, they 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: got it to thirty five to twenty three. But then 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: the next time they got the ball only about nine 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: minutes on the clock, down by twelve and on their 50 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: own six yard line when the Jets pinned him deep 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: with a punt nine minutes left, twelve point deficit, and 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: you're ninety four yards from the first of two touchdowns 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: that you need, and the Packers came through. Now, yes, 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the Jets had their share of past interference penalties, but hey, 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: the bottom line is they weren't They didn't defend very well. 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know Todd Bowles had a 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: bunch of complaints and everything about the calls, but there 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: was a heck of a lot of contact there, and 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I thought the game was pretty much called that way 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: all along. So the fact that the Jets didn't adjust 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: and they continued to just grab and bump and everything 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: else with the Packers down the field, that's their own 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: fault that the flags kept flying. But Aaron Rodgers, he 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: found that level of his game that is so fun 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: and so exciting to watch in terms of the passing, 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: the scrambling, the checks at the line of scrimmage, even 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: a little read option there on two point conversion and 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: all of that. A lot that went into this and 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: uh um, and as you said, all these different guys 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: for the Packers that had sixty plus receiving yards. You know, 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Davante Adams comes now he's just two catches away from 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: breaking Sterling Sharp single season franchise record of a twelve. 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: A lot of fun stuff in this one. Yeah. And 74 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: the other thing I like too is a lot of 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: guys that I think some people counted out played well 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: in this game, starting probably with Aaron Rodgers himself for 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: forty two passing yards, thirty two rushing, two rushing touchdowns 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: for him after he didn't have one. The entire season 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: really was dynamic in that way with moving the chains. 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: But Jamal Williams, Jamal Williams, if you ever talked to him, 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: he's always such a jovial, playful personality. But you really 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards, you could get a true 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: sense for how much this game meant to him. And 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: you know the fact that he went from week ten 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: to week fourteen had twenty total touches, didn't complain, was 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: still doing his dancing routine before the games and that, 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: but he felt really confident in what he could do 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: if he got the opportunity to play. He stepped up. 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: Equinimius st Brown, Markquez Veldez, scantlink Um, you know, Justin 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: McCrae has to pop in there at left guard after 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: Lane Taylor leaves. And you know Jake Kumerou who you know, 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite w water receiver forty nine yard catching touchdown yea. 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: And early in the game, it was guys that I think, 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say you necessarily didn't think could 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: step up in those instances, But I think a lot 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: of people had sort of counted out throughout the course 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: of this season that made plays for Aaron Rodgers, especially 98 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: down this you know, down the stretch of that football game. Yeah, 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: I really liked what Jamal Williams did in this game. 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: And as we're sitting here in the studio, I've been 101 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: spending a portion of the day going through the offensive 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: game film, finding not just the times Jamal Williams touched 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the football. He had fifteen rushes ninety five yards, six 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: catches another sixty one yards, had the one rushing touchdown, 105 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: which was a tremendous display of of just grit and 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: balance and everything that went into that seven yard score. 107 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: But finding all these other things on film that he 108 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: did that will be I think a really interesting piece 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: for my what you might have missed this week. The 110 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: way he carried out play fixed, the way he picked 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: up blitz is, the way he just occupied linebackers as 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: as a safety valve type of receiver. All these things 113 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: that went into some significant plays that the Packers made 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: in the game. So my hat's off to Williams. You 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: talk about his jovial personality, is dancing and everything like 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: that between the whistles, so to speak, from the snap 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: to the whistle, I guess I should say, and when 118 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: that helmet is on, this is a different breed of cat. 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: He really plays hard, but then after the whistle it's 120 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: like he's smiling and dancing and you know, kind of 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: hopping around. He's a he's he's a different kind of guy. 122 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: But boy, he's been he's been really fun to watch here. 123 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: This is where I get kind of frustrated with Packer 124 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: fans because it was and I'm not trying to single 125 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: anybody out or rip on anybody here, but you know, 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: they were midway through the season there was a lot 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: of people wondering why the Packers, you know, just aren't 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: going full time to Aaron Jones. But if you really 129 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: break it down, like with with Williams being a fourth 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: round pick last year, Jamal Williams fits this offense as 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: well as any running back I think the Packers have 132 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: had during my time on the beat. Jones is really explosive. 133 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey was a phenomenal power back. But the about 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Williams is I was thinking about this during the game 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday. This is no disrespect whatsoever to James Starks, 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: but he is a more durable, better pass protecting version 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: of Starks. Now, Starks eventually got there in his career. 138 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: He became a better pass catcher and became a better 139 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: pass protector. But Jamal Williams has done that from day one, 140 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: in addition to the fact of being a prototypical between 141 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: the tackles power rusher in a lot of ways, as 142 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: much as Aaron Jones is a phenomenal runner. Is gonna 143 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: be really is going to be successful in this league. 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, Davante Adams made a comment after the game, 145 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: and it's somewhat hyperbole saying that, you know, Jamal Williams, 146 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: for other teams could get the snaps. We know how 147 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the league is structured now, but he is that type 148 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: of running back. So if he needs to play eight 149 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: five snaps or whatever it ended up being in this contest, 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: he can do that. So that's why I've never really 151 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: understood this reputation he's gotten with some fans is that, 152 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, Jamal Williams is exactly what the Packers have 153 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: looked for historically from the running back position. Yeah, he's 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: a tough son of a gun. That's I mean. When 155 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: I watch when I watch him play, I just it 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: just speaks toughness to me. 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Okay, 173 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: as I look back through some of the film and 174 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: looking at the play by play of this game, I 175 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to the Packers defense, not 176 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: only the sack by Blake Martinez early in the fourth 177 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: quarter that got a stop and then led to the 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: first of those points in the eighteen straight points the 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Packers scored when it was thirty five to twenty, and 180 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: then the defense did take advantage of some Jets penalties 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that got them off schedule some long down and distances. 182 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But after the Packers take the lead thirty eight thirty five. 183 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: A breakdown on special teams. Packers had a lot to 184 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: overcome on special teams in this game. Andre Roberts with 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the long returns, the fake punt, all of that. Roberts 186 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: returns that kickoff with the Jets trailing now thirty five 187 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: returns at fifty one yards gets it inside Green Bay's 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: forty yard line. There's still over a minute on the 189 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: clock here, Wes and the Packers defense has to take 190 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: the field just protecting a three point lead. Sam Donald 191 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: was having a great game, maybe one of his best 192 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: games of his rookie season. Completes two eight passes. It's 193 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: first down on the fifteen yard line with thirty six 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: seconds to go. Sam Donald has three cracks to win 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: this game for the New York Jets. The Packers defense, 196 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: playing without Jairo Alexander, the top cover corner who left 197 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the game in the first half with a groin injury, 198 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: rises up, get some pressure, gets forces three straight in completions, 199 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: and the Jets have to settle for the tying field goal. 200 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: First down on the fifteen yard line with thirty six 201 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: seconds left and three shots at the end zone to 202 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: win the game. That's a that's a tough situation for 203 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: any defense to be in. And uh and the Packers 204 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: defense did what it had to do. A couple of 205 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: things to this one. I just want to read you 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: some stuff off the you know, possession and drive chart 207 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: the Jets after they missed that field goal early on 208 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: touchdown touchdown, touchdown punt and then they kneeled out the 209 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: half touchdown touchdown on the third quarter, the fourth quarter 210 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: punt punt, punt field goal in that field goal only 211 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: came after as you mentioned, that lengthy return three and out, 212 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: four plays for thirty two yards, seven plays for I'm sorry, 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: four plays for seventeen yards, seven place for nineteen yards, 214 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: six place for twenty three in the field goal. You know, 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I think one of the underrated heroes in this with 216 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: what they did that stood out to me was Tyler 217 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Lancaster Um. And I know we've been talking about him 218 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: for a while now. There was a couple of weeks 219 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: ago where Kenny Clark I was talking to him about 220 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Lancaster and he said that he is farther ahead of 221 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: where Clark was during his rookie season going into the 222 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: month of December, and I thought that was a really 223 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: nice compliment, and I questioned my mind. I was like, 224 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: is that actually true? But then as we've seen him 225 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: play down the stretcher And now, mind you, Tyler Lancaster 226 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: is older now than Kenny Clark was when he was 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: a twenty one year old rookie. But they found something 228 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: in him, and they found a guy that isn't just 229 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: going to be a player this year. He looks like 230 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: he could be a featured person in those run packages 231 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: going forward. The Jets did go super conservative there at 232 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of the fourth quarter. They ran the ball 233 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot, but Lancaster dean lowery that front. Even Montrevia's 234 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: Adams did not give up any room there. And then 235 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: you also had guys like Tony Brown making plays on 236 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: the edges. Uh, a cornerback that is not expected to 237 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: tackle for a loss for three yards, stopped him on 238 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: another force them into those punch situations. And yeah, they 239 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: didn't get the takeaways that I said they would need. 240 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Uh And and Sam Donald's passer rating was higher than 241 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they wanted it to be. But when it 242 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: came down to crunch time, they made the big plays 243 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: that they needed to to get the ball back to 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the offense. The Packers can't come back from that deficit 245 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: if they don't get the ball back. Taron Rodgers and 246 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: the defense fulfilled its job in that way. Yeah, and 247 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: even if you take out obviously, one of the touchdowns 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: early in the game was the ninety nine yard kickoff 249 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: returned by the Jets. But looking defensively, the Packers allowed 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: three touchdown drives within the first three quarters of the 251 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: game of seventy five plus yards. Donald was having his 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: way at certain times. The absence of Alec Xander was 253 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: a factor, and for the way the Packers were shutting 254 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: down the run, I thought playing the run really really well. 255 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: One of the things you do miss when you have 256 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Lancaster in the game. For example, as opposed to a 257 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark Mike Daniels, you don't get quite as much 258 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: of the pass rush because he's just not a natural 259 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: pass rusher. He really is a prototypical run stopper. But 260 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: those last four possessions that you rattled off sixty total 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: yards over four possessions with the game on the line, 262 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: when they had to get a stop every single time, 263 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: and in fact, they kind of stopped him an extra 264 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: time because the fake punt. You know that the Jets 265 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: ran on fourth and inches after after those guys stacked 266 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: up the third down quarterback sneak. Then the Jets lined 267 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: up in punt formation but snapped it to the up 268 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: guy and and converted anyway, so the defense had to 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: get another stop. Beyond that, I just I give that 270 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: unit a heck of a lot of credit because when 271 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: you look at you look at the personnel that was 272 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: out there compared to where the Packers were personnel wise 273 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: at the start of the season, and all these guys 274 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: who were not in the game and on injured reserve 275 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: and everything else. Um, that was a that was a 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: really commendable down the stretch defensive performance on a day 277 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: when things weren't necessarily going all that wealth for the 278 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: first three quarters, you know, and Mike Petton, this defense 279 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: will probably finish somewhere in the teens, I think in 280 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: terms of total defense, however you want to measure that. 281 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: But again, I just don't think there's any statistics that 282 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: really tell you the true story of how this team 283 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: played this year. For my money, and I love Dom Capers, 284 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I hope at some point be able to sit down 285 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and have a cup of coffee with them again someday. 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: But one of the things that kind of had gotten 287 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: away from the Packers the last couple of seasons was 288 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: their adversity defense in their explosive plays. Those are two 289 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: areas this specific group has been exemplary in this season. 290 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: It even hit me during when Robby Anderson caught the 291 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: thirty three yard touched on. There was the breakdown I 292 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: think that was after right after Alexander's right after Alexander 293 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: left the game, and then it was a coverage bust 294 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: where two guys went to cover the same guy in 295 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the flat and then Anderson was kind of running all 296 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: alone down the sideline. The safety didn't have enough time 297 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: to get over there. And it hit me then I 298 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: was like, gosh, we just have not seen a lot 299 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: of those plays this season. The communication, whether that's pett 300 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and whether that's Blake Martinez, but the way that calls 301 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: have been relayed this year. You haven't seen a lot 302 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: of instances where the Packers are getting caught. For twelve 303 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: men on the field, it's been really impressive. And then 304 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: for them to respond in those moments, Packers could have 305 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: really easily gotten down on themselves going to that fourth quarter. 306 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Could have continued to wilt, could have continued to get 307 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: gutted for yards. They didn't do that. They stopped. They 308 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: got the stops when they needed and Aaron Rodgers was 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: as solid as I've seen him be. Yeah, there was 310 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: still some plays that they missed. There was a couple 311 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: of receivers that were open they didn't get the ball to. 312 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: But in crunch time, when you need to move the chains, 313 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: he made the right reads. He made the right choices, 314 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and he also scampered in for that read option, which 315 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: I loved on that two point conversion. They've run that 316 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: on a on the two point play, Uh, you know 317 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: a few times over the last few years, and uh, 318 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: he's gone in untouched for the two points more often 319 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: than not. And if you think about it, how many 320 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: times this year, Mike, have the Packers put that read 321 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: option on film? The quarterback has never carried it out. 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: It's always been given into the running back. You haven't 323 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: seen Rogers fulfilled that place. So for him to scamper 324 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: in the end zone, get the score and then to 325 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: come back with the read option again, I just I 326 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: thought this performance again, Joe Philbin said it perfectly. Was 327 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: it the best performance in history of football. No, no, 328 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: but for them to win it in the way that 329 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: they did, I think says a lot about that entire 330 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, and that's what I was going to 331 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: get at, is this Packers locker room. There were discussion 332 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: outside the building all week long. You know, well, why 333 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: is Rogers gonna play? And why don't the Packers just 334 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: shut down? You know, they're high priced players. Why risk 335 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: any injury and stuff like that. You look at how 336 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: this game went was You can't tell these guys that 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: any NFL game is meaningless to them. Tremont Williams takes 338 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: a shot to the face on trying to feel the punt, 339 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: goes off, gets checked for a concussion, gets cleared, goes 340 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: back in the game. David bak tr trying to chase 341 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: down Darryl Roberts on the interception on the first two 342 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: point play, which ended up getting called back because of 343 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: a penalty. Anyway, but he's chasing him down the field 344 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and you know, comes up kind of lame, so to speak, 345 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: not look not looking like he's walking all that. Well, 346 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: something might have happened. He goes and finishes the game 347 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: without complaint, and the Packers win this thing. And and 348 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: when the Packers think they have it won, Aaron Rodgers 349 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: runs it in for a six yard touchdown and overtime 350 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: gets called back on a holding penalty. You've got to 351 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: score from the sixteen yard line, and boom, he throws 352 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: a pinpoint pass to Davante Adams, his eleventh catch of 353 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: the game, and the Packers win it. These guys, I 354 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: know they're not going to the playoffs, but they played this, 355 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: They played this game, and they're playing out the season 356 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: the right way. Yeah. Absolutely. And the thing of a 357 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: box Tr too, he gets injured on a play because 358 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: he's he's he's a three pound offensive tackle trying to 359 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: run down the field because of the pick six. I mean, 360 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: that's the kind of heart to pick two. Sorry, that's 361 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: the kind of hearty showing on that play. I think 362 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: David box tr knows in his heart of hearts he's 363 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: not going to be able to catch the cornerback, but 364 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: he wants to fulfill the play. Marcus Velde Scantling Corey 365 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Lindsley praised him after the game because on that twenty 366 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: three yard run that Rogers got to the one yard line, 367 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: veld Is Scantling fulfilling a blocking assignment down field to 368 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: help spring him for a couple of extra I mean 369 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: held that block for for multiple seconds to turn what 370 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: maybe was a ten yard scramble into a twenty plus yards. 371 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: And nobody's going to remember that play ten years from 372 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: now because it isn't going to show up in a 373 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: box score. It's not going to be a big explosive 374 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna get you on ESPN. But it's the things 375 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: that allowed the Packers to win this game. And I 376 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: gotta say a quick word about Truman Williams here. He's 377 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: thirty five years old, Mike. He's played like point one 378 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: percent under the total snap counts here, maybe a couple 379 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: of plays of everything he's done on defense going into 380 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: this game. He's sitting there in his locker room. In 381 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: his locker afterwards, he has stitches above his right eye. 382 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: And he was asked about that hit. He didn't even 383 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: call it a dirty head. He's like, that's football. He 384 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: even kind of put it on himself for not fear 385 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: catching it, saying I've kind of, you know, lived that 386 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: way throughout my career as a returner, and sometimes it 387 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: bites you, and it bit him on that head, you know, 388 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: on the head a little bit. But this is a 389 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: guy that doesn't need to be out there either. I mean, 390 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: he could have just called it a game. He passes 391 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: a concussion protocol, he gets back out there. I mean, 392 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I think that tells you everything you need to know 393 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: about this team and what it means to them to 394 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: play this thing out. I get the frustration at times 395 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: with fans. I understand they want to top ten pick. 396 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: But the realistic thing is, and Joe Philbin said it 397 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: as well and as eloquently as I think you ever 398 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: could on Monday morning, the future is the future. It's 399 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: going to get there. Whether he's the coach, whether these 400 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: players are here, it doesn't matter. There's an number on 401 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: your on your pads, there's a name on the back 402 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: of your jersey. In that name and in that that 403 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: number has been the same, you know, since the beginning 404 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: of time, regardless of who the players, there's a way 405 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: you play, there's a way you finish. The Packers they're 406 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: they're right there right now. They have one more game 407 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: to go. They want to make it count. Yeah, one 408 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: more game to go and one more game to go 409 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: in the regular season in the NFL, there was a 410 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: lot that happened in Week sixteen. I want to get 411 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: to some of those results in our shows later in 412 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: the week because some interesting playoffs scenarios taking place. But 413 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: we're up against it right now. We're going to call 414 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: it a rap on this edition of Packers un Scripted. 415 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 416 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com on Twitter. He's at west 417 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 418 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, and Merry Christmas everybody. We'll see 419 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: you next time.