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Speaker 1: There's my movie picture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was at a see angle. You know it's

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Speaker 1: But uh, no filter needed on that one. The sunglasses

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Speaker 1: really came in handy. I cover the dark circles, the bags, everything.

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Speaker 1: But it was a good vacation. I had a good time,

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Speaker 1: ate some good food. It was with family, you know,

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Speaker 1: It was just a lot of fun and I like it.

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Speaker 1: The ride was hillacious, though, I will tell you that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was he talking about this one too.

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Speaker 1: The girls. Yeah, the girls are out to play.

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Speaker 3: There you go, good time, you join the sun.

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Speaker 1: I was enjoying the warm weather. It was hot as hell.

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Speaker 3: Nice, just dodge all just dodge all the pepee and

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Speaker 3: I can't go anywhere near those things.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's not like a see a lot of

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Speaker 1: Added them to the facility that we were at, right,

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Speaker 1: But it just it's gorgeous there, and it just we

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Speaker 1: And it was just it was a fun trip, wholesome,

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Speaker 3: Or loves Low's Loves Travel Stop in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 3: Not funky? I've been around scorp a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was trying to from the article, I

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Speaker 3: Stuff, And I like, this guy was trying to smoke inside.

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Speaker 3: He's trying, he's breaking the rule of the store. So scored, and.

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Speaker 1: So Scorp did the right thing in telling him, like

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Speaker 1: So sad, sad day for Scorp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And it's funny, you know, thinking about him

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Speaker 1: I just saw him. Security just sall him like a

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Speaker 1: Last time I saw him. And I talked to him,

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Speaker 3: He's always smiling, laughing, you know, he's like he just

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Speaker 1: You know, it's weird. It's just a bad situation. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully something shows that that guy he's a

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Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing this sy.

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Speaker 3: You know, that is one of my favorite ECW moments

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Speaker 3: is Scorpio's departure from ECW where he turns heel on

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Speaker 3: That's November to Remember ninety six. That's one of my

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Speaker 3: It's great. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well he beat up a job or at the convenience he.

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Speaker 3: Did I then I'm thinking he jumped to the top

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, we're not making light of it.

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Speaker 1: It's a very serious situation. But I hope that he

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Speaker 1: I can't condone bad behavior. But we don't know the

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Speaker 3: As always, you know what we find out.

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Speaker 1: That was the breaking news. But we have a lot

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Speaker 1: this segment, the whole segment, okay, number one. It gave

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Speaker 1: It's entertainment, right, WWE World Wrestling Entertainment. This to me

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Right If that makes any sense to anybody.

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Speaker 3: Does makes perfect? Yes?

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Speaker 3: They blew five weeks of reveals in one night. Five weeks,

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Speaker 3: part of that except for WWE. Now, the Uncle Howdy

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Speaker 3: not need to have that reveal killing people. They killed

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Speaker 3: people with Those people in the backstage are dead. They're dead. No, no, no, no, no, oh.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me. If you go on social media, people shared

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that Chad Gable being dead is a

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Speaker 3: Did you know that that's acceptable? Now we can make

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's it's funny. And all those people

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Speaker 3: They just walked away.

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Speaker 1: What do you want them to rest the sky?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: Why should we see them? We shouldn't see them. They

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Speaker 3: They shouldn't be around. They kill people. They shouldn't be going, Hi,

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Speaker 3: we're the arena, cheer for us, show us fireflies.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they should have plants in the audience that they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe because they kill people, murderers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous that they did too much, much, too

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Speaker 1: don't reveal the other members yet. They just show carnage

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00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: and each week one member comes out behind Uncle Haldy

436
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: to the point where all of the family comes after

437
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: like four or five weeks.

438
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you wouldn't It would have been perfect.

439
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: That would have been such a great reveal. And again,

440
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: you know watching if you're watching it live, you're having

441
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: to watch this all on the screen in the arena.

442
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: But now you had to watch them dress the set

443
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 3: with the little outline of the door, right, you had

444
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: to watch him put that out right. Then you had

445
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: to watch Nickki Cross crawl yeah through the door.

446
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So Nicky Cross was the first one that came out.

447
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: So I think the way I would do it is

448
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: I would reveal all the members and then Uncle Hale last,

449
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: bring him out last, because you know he's gonna get

450
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: the biggest pop. Right, So they had Nikky Cross crawling first.

451
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: She was the first one on the screen. Should have

452
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: stopped the first, Yes, should have stopped it with her,

453
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: She's the first reveal. Then bring out the buzzard or

454
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: bring out the whoever they are, and then have Bo

455
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Dallas come out last to complete the family. I think

456
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: that would have been the best because everybody's waiting on.

457
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's it's Bo, right, so if he came

458
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: out last, I think that would have been a winner.

459
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but I still enjoyed it

460
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: because it again.

461
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: Well done.

462
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: I did. It took me out of thinking I'm watching

463
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: a wrestling show to thinking I'm watching a horror movie.

464
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm watching It's not wrestling, it's entertainment. It just took

465
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: me away from the wrestling bubble and brought me into

466
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: a different world. And that's what WWE wants. They've said

467
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: it a million times. We're you know, we're not just

468
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: a wrestling product. We're an entertainment company. Well, they're entertaining me.

469
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: Then they apparently invaded the Pat McAfee show.

470
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: I heard, but I didn't see.

471
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: It was just a clip at the during an interview.

472
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: They shut the lights off, did the little spooky sound too.

473
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: He's apparently dead. I guess here's another thing, though, here's

474
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: another reason why I'm out and you're gonna have this.

475
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 3: You can have a completely other take on this probably did.

476
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: This just might be my old school mind of you know,

477
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: being stuck as an old fan and you know, kfe

478
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: being what it is, and you can be completely on

479
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: the other side of this this surface right, hang on,

480
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: let me this surface right after raw? And I think

481
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: this is a complete mystique killer. This guy took a

482
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: picture with them at what a Burger? Right after raw.

483
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Now don't you think these guys should say no pictures?

484
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: Hmm?

485
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: Okay, this as a group after all that crap, take

486
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: say no pictures. You can be that's not.

487
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Well. This is a touchy situation here because number one,

488
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: you want to be good to the fans. I get it.

489
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: I think the majority of the fans are smart enough

490
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: to know that they're not really the characters that they play,

491
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: especially in a cartoons type of what. Okay, so they're

492
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: out eating so I I understand this, But for the

493
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: gimmick because it just happened, this isn't good, you know

494
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because they're all revealed and now it's

495
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: all over socials anyway who they are. But you know,

496
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you put a picture up with the creepy five of

497
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: them and then this this picture gets up next to her,

498
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they're just wrestlers playing the role, but

499
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: we all know that. But it does take away some

500
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: of the aura that it had. But what are you

501
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: gonna do? Listen, it's real life. People have to go

502
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: eat and people are good to their fans, So saying

503
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: no is kind of half Yeah, saying no is kind

504
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: of a dick move. But on the other hand, it's like, look,

505
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: how look how sweet and lovable they all look in

506
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: that picture.

507
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: They look, but I'm thinking they do they look? And

508
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: you went up to, uh, you know.

509
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Right now, if I wrestle you last night, if I

510
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: wrestled you last night, right after we take a picture

511
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: of us standing together in the locker room, that was great.

512
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. That's how socials are these days. There

513
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: is no k K is dead. We all know that.

514
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Old timers try to keep it alive. It's dead, you know,

515
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: as much as you might try. What are you gonna do?

516
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Those days are over?

517
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: So my thought is I liked how they did it.

518
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: I think presentation everything a plus, But they completely blew

519
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: their wad way too early, and there's no place else

520
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: to go with it. Everything else is gonna be corny

521
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 3: and I'm sure they'll do some magical crazy stuff and

522
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: you know whatever. But Okay, they just murdered twenty five people,

523
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: and to me, there should be a warrant out for

524
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: Uncle Howdie's arrest. In WWE storyline world, the Big boss

525
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: Man has a son that should be coming to arrest

526
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: the Wyatt family, you know what I mean, Like, it's

527
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: so ridiculous.

528
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna log on next week to do this podcast

529
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be sitting there with a bullet hole

530
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: in your head.

531
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh, they're gonna be They're gonna come in. The Wyatt

532
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: six are gonna come and grab you.

533
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Get no. I like my idea. I think they you know,

534
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: as much as I loved I saw, I think they

535
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: should have stopped it with the sister Abigail crawling and

536
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: just let it be her. And then each week she

537
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: crawls out and somebody else pops up behind her to

538
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: where it's, you know, four or five weeks down the line,

539
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: then go Dallas appears. I think that got a monster.

540
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: Are they each taking out one person and it's like

541
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: those people become the ones that go against that group you.

542
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Know as well? Yeah, yeah, theies kind.

543
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: Of exactly and that's how long you could have built that.

544
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Up, right. I think you and I should be bookers.

545
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: Give us the book, you know it would have been.

546
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: I am excited to see what happens though, because the product, again,

547
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: production wise, this was freaking awesome looking. But I don't

548
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: want them killing people. Hurting them, Yes, killing them. Bullet

549
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: holes in the head. And I don't know what that was,

550
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: but that was a It was gruesome. It looked like

551
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: a murders.

552
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: It really Gable should be on TV for the next

553
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: Seek and Watch.

554
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: He'll be wrestling.

555
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be on like it's a little band aid

556
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: on his head. And now think about this. You've heard

557
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: me saying I've been seeing the praises of the Bloodline storyline,

558
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: and I still put it over what I saw on

559
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Monday from what I saw Friday because it just was

560
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: too much, too soon.

561
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Okay, well you heard it here. Guys.

562
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: Please, I want you, if you want, I want to

563
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: hear everything you have to say, whether you hate it

564
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: what I said or you love with France, I want

565
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 3: to hear it.

566
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Drop up, because we're not as different as you think

567
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: we are. We did agree, We came to an agreement

568
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: in the middle. I think we both agree on the way.

569
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: It was a little rushed, but I just just the

570
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: overall gimmick I love. I will say that I am

571
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: a fan and I am excited to see what they

572
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: do next, because how do you top something like that?

573
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, it was rushed, it was

574
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: too much at one time. How do you top it?

575
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: What do you do? So I'm excited to see where

576
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: they go with it.

577
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you another guy that you're excited for, and

578
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: that is Joe Hendry.

579
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I am. You know, we talked about Jordan Grace with

580
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the TNA ww n X team crossover, and now Joe

581
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: did it, and I was happy to see. When I

582
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: go on my socials, he was following me on both

583
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: ig and Twitter, so I followed him right back because

584
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, I get a little bit of the

585
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: mark in me. I get a kick out of when

586
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the younger kids follow me, the younger guys, and I

587
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: don't know how old Yo is, but he looks like

588
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: a young guy to me. But I like when they

589
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: follow me because it makes me feel important still in

590
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: the business. But interesting fact, Wwe put out a tweet

591
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: like five days ago and say his name, and he

592
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: appears Joe Henry is here for the Battle Royal. I

593
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: watched his segment and the place went nuts. And according

594
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: to what I read, his debut is now WWE's most

595
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: viewed X post of the year.

596
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

597
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. He got seventeen million views on X

598
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: or Twitter, whatever you want to call it, fifteen thousand reposts,

599
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: three point eight thousand quotes, one hundred and four thousand likes,

600
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: and eight point two thousand bookmarks for that. For the

601
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: WWE's tweet about him. When he came out, the place

602
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: went nuts. So this crow us over thing, it has

603
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: legs to it. It's it's good business, man. Have you

604
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: seen it?

605
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: I did. I watched that. I watched the clip on

606
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: on X.

607
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. It's like what else? Who else is

608
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: going to come over? Frankie Kazarian made an appearance.

609
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: Which was cool too. That's that's a long time coming

610
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: for him because he only had a cup of coffee.

611
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: Sure in WWE under the Events era.

612
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is good for the wrestling business.

613
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Good stuff, and I'm here for it. I love this

614
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know.

615
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: Again, It's booking, though was criticized who's booking Henry because

616
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: he was immediately eliminated. Okay, but again, people come on,

617
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: they're not going to put over the talents.

618
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Still cool to see somebody from another again it goes

619
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: to the forbidden door, you know, somebody from another promotion

620
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: crossing over working for the competition. I love that because

621
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen next and and

622
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: and it's giving TNA such a rub, which I love

623
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: too because a TNA, I'm telling you, they're e c

624
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: ub they're the little engine that could now and they're

625
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: starting to make their Even though they've been on TV forever,

626
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: they're still not to where ww E or AW is,

627
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: you know, production wise, building wise, talent wise. They're there

628
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: because they their talent is awesome and they put on

629
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: great shows, but they're just not drawing. And and again

630
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: they're working in smaller buildings, so you know they're doing

631
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: they're doing well for what they're working with. But man,

632
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: I I can see them going to the next level,

633
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: and I love it.

634
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: They always had the core fan bit, Yeah, for sure,

635
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: always had a core group. I mean I back in

636
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: the day, you know when you work their shows in

637
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: the beginning that they had a core group even when

638
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: they first started, but a few years in, even in

639
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: the Northeast, they had a good group of fans. They

640
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: just they have the ability to pick the right arenas

641
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 3: or or venues or whatever you want to call them.

642
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: That's the smart part of TNA's business model.

643
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: And and that goes back to what I said about

644
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: ae W. They're picking these huge venues and not filling them.

645
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: And it's just like, man, you know, you can pick

646
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: a four or five thousand seed arena and it would

647
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: blow the roof off the house. You know what I'm saying. Now,

648
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: the pay per views are from what I've seen for AW,

649
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: the pay per views are packed. Not a seat in

650
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: the building that was empty. But I know for TV

651
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: they were having some trouble, uh filling the buildings. Now.

652
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing these days, uh, but

653
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: you know the pictures floating around with the empty sides

654
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: and and all that kind of stuff. TNA is doing

655
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: it right. You know, you work in smaller buildings, you

656
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: fill it to capacity and you put on a hell

657
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: of a show, and that's the way you grow. So

658
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: I love I love the crossover. I love that they're

659
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: giving talent opportunities to be seen by you know, other

660
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: fans that might not know who Joe Hendry is because

661
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: they don't watch TNA. Apparently they all do because he

662
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: got a great response. But you know what I'm saying

663
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: it it opened you up to a new market and

664
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: new fans and that's so exciting, so very happy for them,

665
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: and I hope it continues.

666
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: It's not a good thing going. He does the thing

667
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: with the theme songs and uh yeah.

668
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to see that. That's so funny.

669
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: Interesting. So he did from years ago. I mean, he's clever.

670
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: He did one with a big show's theme. Okay, Big Joe,

671
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: but it was the recreation of the whole video of

672
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: Big Weird. Now it scan like it was just his

673
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: face and then it scanned into his face and then

674
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: it was literally the recreation of like the helicopter going

675
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: past his face. It's Big Joe.

676
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

677
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: It was great, very well done.

678
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: Out of the box. I love that kind of stuff,

679
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: very creative. So hats off to them, and uh again,

680
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: I just hope it continues because it's it's good for

681
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: the business as a whole, you know. And I saw

682
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: people was it Bubba again. I'm putting Bubba over big time.

683
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: But he put a tweet out there that said, what

684
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: kind of wrestling fan are you if you're just you know,

685
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: being negative about I'm the don't quote me because I'm

686
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: not one of verbatim on this, but are you really

687
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: a wrestling fan if if you're shitting on a promotion

688
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: or shitting on people and like just love the business?

689
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: He said that with us. He actually said that on airwork.

690
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Here, but I just read it like, yes, I saw

691
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: that you.

692
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: Too, but that I mean to go back, but it

693
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: was right to plug our episode with Bubba, our first

694
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: iHeart episode. He literally said that quote with.

695
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it's true, like you know, just support. Why do

696
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: you have to always bring the negative out? Just support?

697
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you're a broadcaster like we are,

698
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: you have to like nitpick a little bit, but overall,

699
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm positive for the most part,

700
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and I just want everybody to succeed because you know, again,

701
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends in this business and

702
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to feed their families, and if the business is thriving,

703
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: then the boys are thriving, and that's what you want

704
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: to see. So I don't know, just my two cents

705
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: on it.

706
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: No, I I agree to an extent. You know, there's

707
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you when you find something you just don't like,

708
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: you obviously you know you can say it. But the

709
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: people online just it's they go way too far. It

710
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 3: goes beyond having a conversation with your buddy and voicing

711
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: your displeasure for a booking angle as you're having a

712
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: couple of drinks. I mean, the online people are just

713
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: obsessive and it's out of control. But uh, I mean,

714
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's the way of the beast. Now,

715
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: that's the unfortunate parts.

716
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: But be a human being.

717
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's pretty much it, really, you know, But

718
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: how about going from somebody that everyone likes to somebody

719
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: that people don't really like? Right now?

720
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you're talking about Goldberg, uh Golberg. So

721
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: I you know, we we started a little bit on

722
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: the WCW Who Killed WCW, And we did a whole

723
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: show about the first episode and you kind of tapped out,

724
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: and I get it. It's it's fine. I started watching

725
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: episode two and it was basically Goldberg versus the WCW

726
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: locker Room is the take that I got watching it,

727
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: and pretty much. It was just the boys saying, here

728
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: was a guy who just came in, didn't pay his dues,

729
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: didn't give a shit if he hurt people or not,

730
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: and thought it was real and was acting like he

731
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: was on the football field when he was doing like

732
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: his spears and his jackhammer and all this stuff. He

733
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: was legit hurting people. And they were kind of saying

734
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: that he did not get the business, and you know,

735
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: being pushed to the moon so early on and not

736
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: paying a single due. A lot of the guys had

737
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: a bad taste in their mouth about him, and they

738
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: interviewed several of the boys, and then they interviewed Goldberg,

739
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: who basically says, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks,

740
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: and was very proud of himself and what he accomplished

741
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: in the business. So were you a fan of Goldberg?

742
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Not really? Okay, no, not my style. I was in

743
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden at Monday night Raw the night Goldberg

744
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: debuted on Nitro, and we actually had Nitro in the

745
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: skybox at Madison Square Garden and we were watching it saying,

746
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: who is this Steve Austin ripoff? Because of the black

747
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: trunks and the shaved head and the Go team and

748
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: go this guy is a Steve Austin ripoff.

749
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: Watched excuse me one second. That came from Kevin Sullivan.

750
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Oh he said that.

751
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that, and he said, uh, he I

752
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: think it was who was? It wasn't Tyson. He was

753
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: looking at a boxer and I don't know if it

754
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: was Tyson. I can't remember in the interview, but he

755
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: says black trunks.

756
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

757
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: He said that's what I wanted for Goldberg, to just

758
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: be a normal guy.

759
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. And we watched it and said, this is Austin

760
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: on WCW. But we watched the matter like wow, he

761
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: killed the guy. And I just never got into it.

762
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: Just that wasn't the kind of guy I liked. So,

763
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I was an nWo fan in WCW,

764
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: so he wasn't going to be a guy I got behind,

765
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: but never got into. Goldberg just was even in WWE

766
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 3: just ever my cup of tea?

767
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well I wasn't the locker rooms cup of tea either,

768
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: because they all kind of shit on him.

769
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: So the nWo did not like Goldberg.

770
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: I guess not, but they were like, you know what.

771
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: But hang on, I'm sorry to interrupt. But Paul and

772
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: Nesh talked about and shoot interviews in the past. They

773
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: tried with Goldberg. They tried in the beginning to help

774
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: the guy out, Like Scott Hall said, he tried to

775
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: take him on the road with him and you know,

776
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: introduce him to certain people, yeah, and try to get him,

777
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: you know, maybe to go to their side a little bit.

778
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: But Goldberg just was a loner and just didn't want

779
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: anything to do with it and did his own thing,

780
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: but got people in his head that I guess fed

781
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: fed the beast, and that was the Goldberg beast, and

782
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: that's where he just went on his own path and

783
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 3: was like I'm the man, give me the money, and

784
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't want anything to do with anybody.

785
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: But you would think him starting at the power plant, right,

786
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: and kind of training there a little bit, not much,

787
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: but just enough to learn his two or three moves, right,

788
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: you would think someone would smarten them up and say, listen,

789
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: this is a work. We're not here to hurt people.

790
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: The boys were legit saying he was hurting people, and

791
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: like Nash was one of them, and he's like, come on, man,

792
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: you know, did he not get the memo like this

793
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: isn't real. This isn't football. You're not legitimately tackling people,

794
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know, like I've always been taught,

795
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: you protect the person that you're working with.

796
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, those guys at the power Plant, you know,

797
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: were out for blood. So I'm not surprised that I

798
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 3: don't get it really tight. They didn't tighten him up

799
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: because I mean, you had mister wonderful down there, you

800
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: had the Sarge Buddy Lee Parker, who was Goldberg's main

801
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: trainer down there, and what's his name, Jody Hamilton was

802
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: down there as well. These guys, you know, what do

803
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: they care about, you know, anything but stiff? So they

804
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: the power Plant was known for running guys off. But

805
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: the power Plant was known for running guys off because

806
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: they were way too hard on the training aspect. So

807
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: Goldberg maybe he was taught, Okay, be stiff and we're

808
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: fine with that. So when he got up there, he

809
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: just ran over people. Yeah, I mean that was the

810
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: whole thing. Did they talk about William regal on there

811
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: with him?

812
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I heard that. It could have, but

813
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't recall that. I just know if

814
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: somebody hurts you in the ring. When you go to

815
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: the back, that's the first thing you're gonna hear, or

816
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the iggy in the ring like knock

817
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: it off, or you're gonna get a receipt, you know

818
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm surprised somebody didn't just beat

819
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: the shit out of them. Okay, well they didn't talk,

820
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: they didn't talk about that fight.

821
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it basically got him fired, got because

822
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: they thought that, you know, it was making him look

823
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: bad when he's supposed to just run him over and

824
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: Regal is like, screw that up, fighting back in no

825
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: way run over me.

826
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: Oh so he did it as a shoot in the ring,

827
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: is what you're saying.

828
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just I'm gonna go back at you.

829
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: And he didn't know what to do, so Ugal just

830
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: went back at him.

831
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: See It's it's just I don't know, I feel like

832
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: people like that have no place in the business. Despite

833
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: what you're taught. If somebody tells you lighten up, you're

834
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: not there to hurt somebody. You're there to make each

835
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: other look good and to make money. And if I'm

836
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: jobbing to him, okay, I'll take your three moves but

837
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: you don't have to kill me to make it look good.

838
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: If I'm a good worker and I can sell for you,

839
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: why do you have to hurt me?

840
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Right?

841
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: So, in that aspect, I don't have that much respect

842
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: for him. If he was told not to do it

843
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: but kept doing it, Like who does that? You know?

844
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm a Shane were Goldberger handful of times on a

845
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: couple of shows, and I don't think he really had

846
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: that heart of a time with them, But I don't

847
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: think it was easy either. But they've they had a

848
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: couple of TV matches from what I remember, but the

849
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: big one with Goldberg is Brett Hart. And I'll bring

850
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: up the quote Brett Hart obviously ended Brett Hart's career

851
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: with the kick at I think it was a starcade show.

852
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: They had a few that the two of them should

853
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: never have been in the ring together. It's clashing styles.

854
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: It just to me, it's not a match that I

855
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 3: would want to go out of my way to see

856
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: a brawler like Goldberg and a technical wrestler like Brett.

857
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: But Goldberg had the platform to finally respond, and this

858
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: was his quote if you want to read it.

859
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: The Brett Hart thing saddens me as a human being

860
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: first and foremost. I would never wish ill will upon

861
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: any opponent or anyone like that, to have an accident

862
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: like that happen and end someone's career, especially someone who's

863
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: one of the best there ever was one hundred percent.

864
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: It sucks. I'm not asking anyone to understand it. I'm

865
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: just saying, just leave me alone, dude. It is what

866
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: it is. Come on, man, I love you, Brett. Don't

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Speaker 1: be such a prick that's all grow up.

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Speaker 3: Wow, because he Brett kills him every interview.

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Speaker 2: He just.

870
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Speaker 1: Did he have to do those last two lines.

871
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Speaker 3: Don't be such a pretty well. I mean, you know,

872
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Speaker 3: as much as I love Brett Hart, I will side

873
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Speaker 3: with Brett Hart every day of the week. Brett kills

874
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Speaker 3: him every chance he gets. He calls him, you know,

875
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: he calls him an idiot, says he sucks, says he

876
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: was the worst wrestler of all time in the ring,

877
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Speaker 3: sends he was unsafe. I mean, Brett kills him every

878
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Speaker 3: chance he gets it. This was Goldberg's response, and he

879
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: just went to call him.

880
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

881
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just that's his prerogative.

882
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: Wow. I don't know. It's hard when you have everybody

883
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: shooting against you. Now, you could some could say, oh,

884
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: the locker room was jealous because he was being pushed

885
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: to the moon and they weren't. But you know what

886
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: they're saying is true. If if people are coming back

887
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: hurt and you can't separate real life from fantasy, you

888
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to get

889
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: in the ring with someone who's legitimately gonna hurt me.

890
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to work with someone like that. And

891
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: that's not being a pussy. That is just you know,

892
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: looking out for your own well being, because you and

893
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: I both know that when you enter that ring, anything

894
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: could happen. People's career have ended, people have died in

895
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Speaker 1: the ring for stupid accidents, and you know, things that

896
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: have gone wrong, and people are paralyzed, and you know,

897
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: somebody working carelessly and just beating people up just for

898
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the hell of it. Not cool. That's just my take.

899
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I protect each other.

900
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess just what? Never a Goldberg fan, So yeah,

901
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: I it's never interested me. You know the one when

902
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: he beat Hogan and Scott Hall on the one night

903
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: to win the title. Everybody knew he was gonna win

904
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Speaker 3: the belt. I did watch that show and it had interest,

905
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: but I was rooting for Scott Hall and because I

906
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: one of those guys, I just did not want to

907
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Speaker 3: see him as the champ.

908
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: He just came off as a little arrogant, like you

909
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: don't like it's screw you. I don't care. He didn't care.

910
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not his fault. He was pushed

911
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: to the moon. He looked like a million bucks, you know,

912
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and he was over. You can't take that away from him.

913
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Speaker 1: The part that I don't like is, you know, when

914
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: people are saying he was legitimately hurting people in the ring,

915
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't respect that. And they let him continue to

916
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Speaker 1: do that week after week.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah. Bobby Heenen says in one of his

918
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: old shoot interviews that that was the reason he said

919
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: WCW died is because whoever decided to beat Bill Goldberg

920
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: was the worst decision they could have made. Because one reason,

921
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: and this is, I think this is very interesting. Goldberg's

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00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: Jewish and Jewish entertainers are a very rare thing to

923
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: come by, and how could be more marketable than a

924
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: Jewish guy like Goldberg? And I think he's right, but

925
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: throw him into the argument of who killed WCW. And

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00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: I have to piggyback off that and say, who cares?

927
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Speaker 1: You don't care?

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00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: Who cares? I love Bobby Heenen. That interview was twenty

929
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: two years old. Wow, I'm so done with WCW. It's funny.

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00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: Well, and then let's get really over really quickly. A

931
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: big rumor going around the internet these days is Shane McMahon,

932
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: who is my favorite McMahon of all time. I have

933
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: to put that over. There are talks that he reached

934
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: out to Talent in AEW about working for them. Now,

935
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: how legit is this story? Do we even know? Jim Ross?

936
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Put it over?

937
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a quote floating around. Okay, it's a quote

938
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: from Conrad Thompson, right. It says there's a friend of ours.

939
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say their name, but he and out of

940
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: his way to text me and say, hey, that's not

941
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: as crazy as you think. I know for sure that

942
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: Shane McMahon has reached out to wrestlers on the AW

943
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: roster to at least hypothetically discussed the idea. Well, now

944
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: you could speculate who that friend is.

945
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who that friend is. Who do

946
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: you think it is.

947
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 3: I can speculate that that friend might have a red

948
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: face similar to mine, and he might love you. Bruce Prichard,

949
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: who else is going to say a friend of theirs

950
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: that he shouldn't say their name?

951
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: But but does Bruce have any ties with a He

952
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have any ties.

953
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: With any W has ties with Shane McMahon.

954
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but SHEE McMahon reached out to people in ae

955
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: W directly.

956
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: I thought this was meaning that they talked talking to

957
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: somebody that talked to Shane McMahon.

958
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I took it as Shane reached out to talent. What

959
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: I read was he reached out to talent that worked

960
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: for ae W about them.

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00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: I took it as that it was Shane talking to

962
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: somebody that talked to Shane that reached out to the.

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00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're both correct, but anyway, this is mind

964
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: blowing because if that were to happen, this would be

965
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: such a snack in the face to the McMahon family.

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00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: I feel, even though Vince has nothing to do with

967
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: it anymore. You think of a McMahon and you think

968
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: of WWE for life. You would never think of a

969
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: McMahon crossing over and appearing on somebody else's TV. At

970
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: least I wouldn't. I would never think that, although if

971
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: it happened, I would pop like a little schoolgirl, not

972
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna lie. That would be the biggest thing to happen

973
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: in years. In my opinion.

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00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: That would supersede Punk going back to w Please that

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 3: it makes yeah, I think honestly, no, you know what

976
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: that could supersede how about Brett going back to WWE.

977
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: No, this is bigger than anyone any talent.

978
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 3: What's anything?

979
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: Because he's a McMahon.

980
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 3: All right, how about this better than vincick Man being

981
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: out of WWEH.

982
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Vince McMahon scandals. We knew his one foot

983
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: without the door. I mean he can't really, they can't

984
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: show he can't show face and work for that company

985
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: with all that's going on. So having a McMahon cross

986
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: over to the competition who is AEW whether they want

987
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: to admit it or not, that's their biggest competition right now.

988
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: Having she McMahon work for a w would be monumental

989
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I would love to see it. And

990
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: people are saying, well, he's not going to do it

991
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: because you know of his injuries in the past. He

992
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have to wrestle. He could just go over there,

993
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: cut a promo. He can manage someone. He could be like,

994
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, the general manager of the company. There are

995
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: so many things he could do. He could do commentary.

996
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Just his presence on somebody else's TV would blow the

997
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: internet up and I would I would have to watch that,

998
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: would I think? Make me watch because I would have

999
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: to see it live.

1000
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: They may break six hundred thousand viewers if shame.

1001
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: I think they would break a million viewers.

1002
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: Oh, because they're ratings.

1003
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, let's not shoot on them. And that's going to

1004
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: be the one that we will come after you with

1005
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: a venge. I'm going to make them listen to this

1006
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: whole segment, you know. But how cool would that be

1007
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: to see Shane? I would watch man, I'm here for it.

1008
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. But yeah, and and

1009
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: nothing else has come of it yet, so that's a

1010
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: developing story as well, so we'll see what happens. But uh, well,

1011
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: chocked full of goodness. This episode was lots to discuss,

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