1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Before we get to today's show, just want 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: to remind you that on Friday, The Around the NFL 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: TV show on NFL Network returns Friday, six pm Eastern, 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: three pm Pacific. Set your DVRs, give us a watch, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: support the show. We love you, you love us. Let's 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: just make this happen together. Around the NFL on NFL 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Network Friday. Check it out onto the show Around the 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, not Bad one Star. Welcome to another edition 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hantus, 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: and I am coming to you from the city filled 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: with heroes in bunkers. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Roselipal, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: What is up? Boyees? Hey Dan, Hey, let's have live 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Sessler today based on our pre pre show talk Westling too. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: We've got a couple of live wires. I don't know, 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, is anyone else dealing with a home It's 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: like a hundred and seventeen degrees in this room that 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm in, and I mean getting needs to be a 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: quick episode. We need to get in and we need 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: to get out. Morson whistles and nonsense. Today you're looking 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: a little more Ted Kazinski like as the Beard Grannis. Yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's not gonna get any better. 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: There's no improving any of this at this point. I mean, 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I cannot contain the adrenaline pumping through my veins for 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the schedule release. That's why you get alive Westling today, 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: we're we are twenty four hours of lay. It is. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: It is the new West of Us until Joe Burrow 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: gets Cincinnati back into the postseason. Yeah, it's not only 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: are we quarantined and and families stuck together in small spaces. 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Now the heat is rising in southern California, but you 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: head over to Santa Monica, Greg in Paradise, So Greg, 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: probably another beautiful day for you with the family and quarantine. 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not like the weather is that 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: much different here, although it's seven or eight degrees makes 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: it makes a nice difference. Yeah, so peaceful though in 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: tranquil it's really no one's been sleeping. Um My sun 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: Walker has not been sleeping in neither of eye for 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: now three days. But that's not unique necessarily to the 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: quarantine we've got. We've got again, we've got our we've 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: got our struggles. A lot of reading, a couple of days. 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: It's too deep of a contra it's too long of 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: a conversation. I think where my mind is at. I 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: think this quarantine it like it like you know, I 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: think when we're just floating along doing our jobs, it's like, 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: what what do you know? What's what's the purpose here? 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I struggle with that a little bit normally, like 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: what's the purpose of what we're doing here in this lay? 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: But in the quarantine it kind of focuses your purpose. 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: You gotta take care of your family, you gotta do 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: your stuff, and that gives you a little more me, 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: a little more calm. You know. How about that you 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: sept Us a photo of you sitting in the sunlight 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: on your back porch area with the children playing together, 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: A man at peace. Well, I thought the photo was 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: funny because I was reading and relaxing and my son, 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, Walker basically had Ellis in a total headlock, 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: smashing her face into like a concrete ground, with me 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: doing like nothing, like two feet away. Did those children 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: often grapple with each other? Um in that way? That 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of surprised me, Yeah, a little bit. I I 60 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: wrestled with Walker, certainly to try to get the energy out. 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: He liked the wrestling. I thought about it a little bit, actually, 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Greg after the show on Monday, like this, for example, 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: right now there he is there, He is the boy 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: who would be King Walker. He just came into the shot. 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that you are just suited very 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: well to the quarantine, Greg, because if Jack burst into 67 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: the garage right now, Luke burst into Mark's little recording enclave, 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: we would face anxiety and be worried about what we're 69 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: gonna how we're gonna handle a situation. You you're almost 70 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: like the zen Master. You welcome the child down your lap. 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Sit boy, be a part of this with me. This 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: looks like Philip Jackson with Robin on his lap. We're 73 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: talking about wrestling Walker, are you like, what do you 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: think about wrestling lately? Okay? See, so I love that. 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: That's where I have. I have two of that situation. 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: It was a velocit raptor that would send me into 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: a seizure of Jack did that on my lap in 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the podcast. So I just think I think, 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: after thinking about it personally Greg after the show Monday, 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: that maybe just your the way you're hardwired is kind 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: of perfect. For the quarantine and good for you, thank you. Yeah, 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. I mean you're also Greg, You're 83 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: a food a noted foodie. I mean you and you 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: always seem to be um, you know, gallivanting around town 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: going to various eateries. I mean, what is that's been 86 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: taken away from you? Or or are you uh organizing 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: four star meals on the home front? This is a 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: lot about me. I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. But well 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: we did I remember anniversary out on Monday, so we 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: did order. Like some of these restaurants are doing these 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: sort of family meals where you can you can get 92 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a pretty fancy one. We did that on Monday. But no, 93 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's it's home cooked meals. But Emmica, 94 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, she's a Institute of Culinary Education trained chefs, 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: so those aren't bad. You know what the pieces are 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: in place to succeed. I think on the in Gregg's house, 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: can we please the longer Callivanti now I'm not feeling 98 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: now he just calivants through his own house during quarantine. 99 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: No longer feeling, and he's got a trained chef on site, 100 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: all right? Coming up on today's show, Uh, Ricky, Hey, Ricky, 101 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: what's up? You are the resident twenty something of the 102 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: group you know for a little while longer anyway, and um, 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: as such, we need to connect with the youth. Now 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: that I've turned forty, it is not a good situation 105 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: for our show for white guys in our for a 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: middle age, So you need to like help us connect 107 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: with the youth. You do a great job of the 108 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Social Today's segment come back season, we need you to 109 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: really push that out in the Social Universe Spelling season 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: as z N. You need that. Yeah, that's huge forgetting 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: this show out there to the audience and letting them 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: know that we have not lost touch. Okay, I mean Erico. 113 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: One question is is sec N a bit of a 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: tired phrase itself at this point? Are we really on 115 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: the cutting? I mean, it's on its way out, but 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: I feel yeah, I feel like we're we're right on 117 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: the cusp where we might be able to get away 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, it's pretty late. It's it's kind of 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: an autumn right now. I feel like, as a phrase, 120 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: it's not as bad as I'm not gonna say. Who. 121 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: I did see a beat writer much older than us 122 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: say that a team's position group was on fleek week 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: like the tight end group was on fleek, or you 124 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: have to who it was there, we'll bleep it out. 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Who was it? I'm that s you gotta text us, alright, alright, 126 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: you can bleep it out. It was. Oh no, well 127 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: spent it especially does not fit. It's not that's all right. 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: So we're gonna share some players that are coming off 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: disappointing nineteen seasons. And I don't I don't know who 130 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you guys are going with, but I kind of see 131 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: this as less injury related and more just a disappointing 132 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: season one where there were a lot of expectations and 133 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe the person was a little beat up. But I 134 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: hope nobody has somebody that blew out in a c 135 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: L in week one. Uh, this is more people who 136 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: disappointed an hour on the comeback trail. Potentially we all 137 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: on the same page with us. All right, whatever, I gotta, 138 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I got a lot options. I like come back season. 139 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news. Let us start with 140 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: my favorite football team, the New York Jets, who have 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: added a running back to their fleet. Their running back 142 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: group is on fleek after Frank Gore, the Inconvenient Truth 143 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: was signed to a one year deal on Tuesday. Obviously 144 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: huge ramifications, Greg, for you and I on this one. Gore, 145 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: the forever veteran, UH was a big has bounced around 146 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: forever Adam Gaze, he played under Gaze in Miami. Gaze 147 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: was loved him. And in this time when Levy on 148 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Bell is coming off a deeply disappointing season and there's 149 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: been talk that the Jets will like to um maybe 150 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: make it more closer to a committee situation in the backfield, 151 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Frank Or enters the fray thirty seven years old. UH 152 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: this month, Greg, your thoughts on Frank Gore entering the 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: picture for the New York Jets, Well, I immediately thought, 154 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: all your little Frank Gore. You know, how's the locker 155 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: room gonna survive without him? Jokes not so funny? Now? 156 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Is it Hansas room? He's coming to save the Jets 157 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: locker room? I mean, look, I think it's a It's 158 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: no matter what you think of Frank Gore, it's incredibly 159 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: impressive he's been able to keep getting jobs. I mean, 160 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven year old running backs playing well enough that 161 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: people will keep giving them jobs. I don't think it's 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: going to change the Jet season. I think I think 163 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: he played like a fine backup last year. I know, 164 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: uh West thinks I'm just being a homer there, but 165 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: I think he's a fine backup. It shows your boy 166 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Billy Powell's not coming back. He's This is gonna sound 167 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: like I'm ripping on Levy on Bell, but Frank Gore 168 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: had more playmaking ability than Levy on Bell last year. Yeah, 169 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Jet it was the Jets 170 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: have to make sure they come out of this next season. 171 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: Whatever you get of this next season. With Levian Bell 172 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: not being one of the worst free agent signings of 173 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: the past five years, I mean, it's been a total 174 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I am not knocking. It's not an anti Jets thing. 175 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: It's just he's one of the more disappointing players league. 176 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Stick a pin in that Levan Bell conversation for a 177 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: little bit later. Right he fits into what where he 178 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: fits into that? For sure? I I want to say 179 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: this Greg very Greg centric, Pazza far I'm loving um. 180 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Let's just like, let's just go over where we're at 181 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: right now. First, the Jets draft your favorite wide receiver prospect, 182 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Denzel Mims in this year then they go out and 183 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: sign your favorite player of all time, practically Um, at 184 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: a time where it seemed like his career had reached 185 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: an end. I just want to add one more thing. 186 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: You know, they also need a backup quarterback. Wait a second, 187 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Ricky and now another edition of sipping on Vena checking 188 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: on Gina. What if bear with me here the Jets 189 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: bring back ge know as their backup to Donald. At 190 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: what point did it just become your favorite team? I 191 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: mean your time of transition yourself with Tom Brady with 192 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, I mean I've got many 193 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: other candidates of fun teams to root for. First of all, 194 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't even want Gino coming back to the Jets. 195 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: They don't deserve him um and Gino deserves better than 196 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: this segment. If this means that they're this segment is 197 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: coming back, I don't. I don't like this segment. This 198 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: it's disrespectful to Gino. I want him on it. He's 199 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: a guy who only goes to play goes with playoff teams. 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: And I do worry that Adam Gates has got to 201 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: ruin some of these players. I like, we gotta, we 202 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: gotta close that segment. Close the segment, and that was 203 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: another edition of si N checking on go ahead. I 204 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: mean that that was basically I think it's the same 205 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: thing Jets fans worry about two when when good things 206 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: seem to happen to them, you just worry is out 207 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: of gates gonna is gonna be able to capitalize on this? 208 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: It's fair. He's the one thing for Jets fan and um, 209 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: it's an optimistic offseason that you feel like they might 210 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: be going in the right direction. But the one thing 211 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: for me and millions of other Gang Green supporters is 212 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: is the head coach the right guy? Um? And not 213 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: a lot of positive evidence in year one. I don't, 214 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: for the record, love the Gore signing. I never played 215 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: professional football, or college football, or really high school football, 216 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: so I can't really tell you how important it is 217 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: to have like a badass veteran in the locker room. Um. 218 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: But in terms of who they could have had to 219 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: potentially handcuff with Levy on Bell, I mean I probably 220 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: would have rather had Carlos Hide or a younger back. Um. 221 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: They also, of course have a rookie, uh, Michael p 222 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Rhyan at of Florida. I want I don't want him 223 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: to be buried on the bench this year because the 224 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Jets are gonna move on from Levy on Bell next year. 225 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: So that's um, that's my feeling on that. But you know, 226 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: he brings a lot to the locker room. We know 227 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that he was playing fine. He's a fine backup. It 228 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: makes me wonder a little bit as you're talking. I mean, 229 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: if Bell actually did start out well, would he be 230 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: a guy that if someone gave him a fifth round 231 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: pick for him they would just trade him in Week six? 232 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, in other Jets news, they placed wide receiver 233 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Quincy and Nona on the reserve pup list with a 234 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: neck injury. And this is a sad story because he 235 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: was the one kind of uh draft hit for John 236 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Iszi in the late rounds, back the sixth round pick 237 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: who really was developing into a nice player. He's kind 238 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: of a tweener, but in a good way where he 239 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: was really big and quarterbacks couldn't handle him, but he 240 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: was faster than linebackers. He was really developing into a guy. 241 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: But the neck injury wiped out his twenty seventeen season. 242 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: He played well in ten and got a four year contract, 243 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: and then the neck injury again got him in the 244 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: first game last season the Jets, by the way opened 245 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: last season and then lost um C J. Mosley and 246 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Quincy Una for the year in that first game against 247 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: the Bills. Anyway, so noon with twenty seven years old, 248 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: his career is probably over. And it makes a lot 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: of sense. Why um, you heard during the ramp up 250 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: through the off season, Uh, Joe Douglas never committing to 251 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: a new one because this was never a good situation 252 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: with the next situation so unfortunate because I think when 253 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you look at the way all receivers play, he has 254 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: one of the most fearless playing styles, like truly a 255 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: physical wide receiver. Um. And you just wonder, even if 256 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: he gets to play again, will will he be able 257 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: to play with that same style in two thousand one 258 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: or two thousand twenty two whenever he if he does 259 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: come back. I mean, we talked about Denzel Mims. He 260 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of receivers take a year or two to 261 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: really become what they are. He doesn't really have the 262 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: luxury of that with what they're dealing with at that position. Yeah, 263 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: that's true. Although if her if Chris Herndon is kind 264 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: of the forgotten guy feels like he's almost like the 265 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: key Weird the other than Darnal in that office, because 266 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: for a minute, I thought like Chris Hernon might be 267 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: an all pro type of tight end and if he plays, 268 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: if he plays like that, then the receiver group looks 269 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: looks a lot better. Herndon is a guy that people 270 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: close to the team love. They see him as a 271 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: guy that could be a big star. He, of course, 272 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: his entire season was wiped away by injury as well. Uh. Noon, 273 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: by the way, landed a four year, thirty three point 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: four million dollar contract extension, played one game on that deal, 275 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and because Big Mac Mike mccagnan was not very good 276 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: at his job, there's really no injury protection for the Jets, 277 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: so he just carried on the roster for another year 278 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: and all the cap ramifications that go with it. Uh. 279 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: In other news, Marshawn Lynch remember him, yes, vaguely? What 280 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: do you remember about Marshawn Lynch, Mark cecil? I remember 281 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: the story that I'll remember until I die is him 282 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: retiring in the middle of the Super Bowl and West 283 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: having to put down what he was doing and suddenly 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: bang out some absurd Marshawn Lynch retirement story while missing 285 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: like the second into third quarter of the biggest sporting 286 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: event we've ever been to the fourth quarter. This was 287 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: San Francisco, this was it was Panthers. That was kind 288 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: of a dud. Anyways, Yeah, I think he did yea well, 289 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Lynch retired, he came back, He went to the Raiders, 290 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: played there a couple of years, wasn't resigned, disappeared again, 291 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: and then reappeared when Seattle was hit by a ton 292 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: of injuries late last season and didn't do much to 293 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: move the needle, but fell into the end zone a 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: few times. Well. According to his agent Doug Hendrickson, he 295 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: has been in talks to rejoin the Eagles. He's now 296 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Oh, Seahawks, Sorry, he is now 297 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Chris Carson's got a hip issue 298 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: or shot Penny towards a c l uh, So there 299 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: is potentially a window here. They did draft a rookie 300 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: UH in the fourth round d J Dallas. They also 301 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: have Travis Homer in the building. So Lynch, have we 302 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: seen the last of him? Maybe not? Mm? Why why bother? 303 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's a weird one. He 304 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I think he averaged under two yards per carry, you know, 305 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: counting the two playoff games. Just it seems weird. It's 306 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: a good guy to have on speed. Now, I guess 307 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: if if emergency strikes, if Chris Carson is not coming 308 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: off a fractured hip and Kenny's not coming off the 309 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: a c L, I doubt they even mess around with 310 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. It does make you wonder about the Seahawks offense. 311 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: So I feel like, just the way there Pete Carroll's 312 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: wired and Schottenheimer's wired, they shouldn't be so run depending. 313 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: But they're never gonna stop running no matter who's back there. 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: We saw that with Lynz so he ran a lot 315 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: in the in the playoff game, which they won. Well, 316 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: they'll go eleven and five, I mean with you know 317 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: eleven Raggedy Ann's on that side of the ball. They 318 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: always find a way. I mean, playoff team book it 319 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: it's so hot in this from there's something special about 320 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Mark right now. The bed's beard has gone next level 321 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: and the heat. So there's a little bit of a 322 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: do do we look special? You know, I'm I am 323 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: openly struggling right now. I just I need we you know, 324 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: we we're meandering NonStop and we need to get here 325 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: and move forward. This might you might enjoy this. Then. 326 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: In other Seahawks news, jadeveon Clowney says he quote loves 327 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Seattle and isn't ruling out of return. Actually, you know 328 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: what this is for you? Mark Ricky, do you have 329 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: a do you have a match? That story was blasted 330 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: into the sun. Thank you. I have heard enough of 331 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll or Jendamon Clowney's people or whoever saying that 332 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: these sides could sign a deal and get it done 333 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: and Clowney returns to Seattle. All right, when it happens, 334 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. That's it. That's enough. Good leadership, 335 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: thank you. What point? With all due respect to the 336 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: whole operation up there in the stific northwest, and they 337 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: do an excellent job. But you know, there's a there's 338 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: a term. It's called you know, piss or get off 339 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: the pot? Right? That's fair? I think this is unanimous. Listen, 340 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: did I have the quote right? There was no if 341 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: if you're on the pot, you're not going number one. 342 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean to be fair, I thought we I thought 343 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: we deep six this news item, and we're still going 344 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: on about it. Well, yes, that's not necessarily true. Depending 345 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: on gender or some weirdos well subsitters out there, the 346 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: saying would be the alternative to you're right or get 347 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: off the pot. And that's what's happening in the news. 348 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: All right, it's come back season. That's how the kids 349 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: say it too. They hit the Z. So we're gonna 350 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: go around the horn once or twice, depending on how 351 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: long it takes before Mark passes out and has a 352 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: heat stoke. Um, I'm not doing too well either. I 353 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. See a little shine on 354 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: me today. It's getting hot in this non insulated garage. 355 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Don't worry. It will be June soon in July, and 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: we will be we will die in our homes. Do 357 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: you guys remember what it's September is like in southern California. 358 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: It's the hottest month of the year. This has to end. 359 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: We need I know, we don't want to go back 360 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: to the office for some reasons, but this gotta end. Well, 361 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: I gotta get an air condition on here, and it 362 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: could be expensed to Roger. Well, you're out in yeah, 363 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: your garage, to be clear, not in your house. Yeah, 364 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: that's that's troubly. All right, let's get to it. Let's 365 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: come back season. Mark. You're feisty, so before we lose, 366 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: you get us going. Well, yeah, I don't want to 367 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: go injury player, um route, as you suggested, but I'll 368 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: go David Johnson because I think his name overall has 369 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: been um soiled because he was attached to one of 370 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the worst trades we've seen in years. And you know, 371 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: the overall question is is David Johnson even a shell 372 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: of who he was back in in the in the 373 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: middle of last decade, and it's really been years and 374 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: years since he's been productive, essentially benched last year for 375 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, who the Cardinals went and prioritized and brought back, 376 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: and Johnson quickly became overly priced and tradeable, um weirdly 377 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: when you thought they never would be able to. And 378 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: he's he's he's basically a centerpiece in that offense at 379 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: the moment. I mean, they they have moved on from 380 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: certain running backs. I find it interesting that he would 381 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: be pairing with Duke Johnson to some degree, but um, 382 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: I have huge suspicions that David Johnson will be a 383 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: thing at all, that this was a smart move for 384 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: the Texans to make, and he has a lot to prove, 385 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: so we will see. But I liked it would be 386 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: interesting if he um thrived because I think that would 387 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: that would surprise many. M hmm. We're not. You're not 388 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: too confident it's going to be bounced back. So I'm 389 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: not confident, but I would. I don't wish ill on 390 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the player. I mean, I think he's had a lot 391 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: of bad luck. He had the broken wrist and never 392 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: really the same guy after. The idea here is to 393 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: nominate people who we believe has a have a comeback. 394 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: He's not well. I do think he has a chance 395 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: because he's not buried on the depth chart, he's not 396 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: in where he's he's a better chance than last year 397 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals said he doesn't fit into what we 398 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: want to do and he essentially his his role diminished. 399 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: The Texans traded for him to use him a lot 400 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: um and so I think the comeback factor is real. 401 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: He was on my list and not for I understand 402 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: you could watch the tape by West. I think you've 403 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: been vocal about this that he didn't look like the 404 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: same guy, and if you really study his career, He's 405 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: only had maybe one just outstanding season. His first season, 406 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: he flashed and he looked like he could could be special. 407 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: But Bill O'Brien, like Mark said, needs this. He needs 408 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: David Johnson to step up. And I'm not gonna get 409 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: back on the Bill O'Brien defense train, but I will 410 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: just say this. In six seasons, there and there's one 411 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: and they went four and twelve. That's when Deshaun Watson 412 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: took over like in September and then was doing well 413 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: but then blew out his A C L and they 414 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: went four and twelve. But outside of that season nine 415 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: and seven, nine and seven, nine and seven, eleven and five, 416 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: ten and six, and they've been to the playoffs four times. 417 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: He does have an ability to it seems to get 418 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: the most out of his roster. This is not the 419 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: star studded roster of the league, and I would not 420 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: be surprised if David Johnson has a in a feature 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: role ends up putting together a good statistical season. Whether 422 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: or not he's special anymore, UH is something we'll have 423 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: to see. But I think he's gonna get every opportunity, 424 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: which was not the case late in his Arizona tenure. Actually, 425 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was washed up last year. I 426 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: thought he was playing through a back injury, and that 427 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: explained everything to me. The same thing is is Alvin 428 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Kamara playing through a high ankle. You just you don't 429 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: expect running backs to do well playing through those kinds 430 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: of injuries. There's there's levels to it, though, and and 431 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: Johnson has just been a while. He hasn't been the 432 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: same guy since his injury, you know, which is now 433 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: a few years. I think Duke Johnson's got to be 434 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: sitting there seeing like, what what do I gotta do? 435 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I won you a playoff game. He I mean, Duke 436 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Johnson was the second most valuable player on that offense 437 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: in that playoff game. He was the one making plays 438 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: at the end when they needed to win the game. 439 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: And I do think in the end he'll be a factor, 440 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: just because I guess I have my doubts that that 441 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: David Johnson's gonna be back to his own self. I 442 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: will stick in the running back realm and I'll Since 443 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Arety hinted at it Levy on Bell, I think last 444 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: year was a bit of a perfect storm of poop 445 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: for Bell, and I agree that he seemed a little 446 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: bit lethargic and did not have explosion. And I just 447 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: wonder how much of that had to do with the 448 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: layoff and if if that is ever gonna come back 449 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: or if it's gone, but I would like to see 450 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: it in a situation where he has more of an opportunity. 451 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: The Jets famously had a almost historically horrendous offensive line that, 452 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: in addition to not having any talent, was completely decimated 453 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: by injuries. So it was really um one of the 454 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: all time bad situations. From a lot of the season 455 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: or a portion of the season, you had quarterback play 456 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: that was, you know, amongst some of the worst quarterback 457 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: play we've seen in years. Uh there, which does a 458 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: running back no favors. So now you have him kind 459 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: of back in the swing of things with a year 460 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: under his belt. You have a I'm not gonna say 461 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the best offensive line in the league. 462 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna see how if these guys can play together, 463 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: but on paper and upgraded offensive line, Sam Donald year three, 464 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: hopefully playing a full season, and uh, I just would 465 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: not be surprised even with people now kind of um 466 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: forecasting doom and gloom because Frank Gore signed and all 467 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now Frank Gore is going to uh 468 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: be the leading rusher or close to it. I don't 469 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: see that either. I still think we're gonna get a 470 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of Bell, who had over three under touches last year, 471 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: and I think we'll get a better Bell. I mean 472 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: it could be worse three point two yards per carry 473 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: last year, which for the amount of workload he had 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: was the worst in Jets history. Um. I just would 475 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: not be stunned if we see a much better version 476 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: of him, not elite late Levian Bell of his Steelers heyday, 477 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: but a guy that is better than an average running 478 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: back and the Jets then at least get some return 479 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: on their investment. Am I being an optimistic Jets man, 480 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: of course, But I also don't know if it's possible 481 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: for the guy to go from where he was at 482 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: that point, uh to where he was last year without 483 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: other circumstances coming into play, which I think, like I said, 484 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: a poop storm for Bell. I mean, my one concern 485 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: would be, and you know we mentioned him too, is 486 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: I've just never gotten the sense um that Adam Gaze 487 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: wanted anything to do with this Levan bell Um price 488 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: tag or overall, it's not a sense I mean it's 489 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: but he also gave him like touches, so it's not 490 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: like they then didn't use him maybe. I mean, you know, 491 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: like you mentioned the injuries and you're not gonna lose 492 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Sam Donald too, Mono again and all this other stuff 493 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: that happened, and they just the beginning of their year 494 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: last year was about as disastrous as you could could 495 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: dream up. But Levy on bell Um, Adam Gates just 496 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: to me feels Um tilted towards Machiavellian behavior and if 497 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: he is out on the whole bell thing, that could 498 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: be Um, as Greg likes to say, a fly in 499 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: the ointment. Potentially. Yeah, I didn't know that, but I 500 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: like it. I was so wrong about bell. I thought 501 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: it was a great signing. I didn't think they paid 502 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: too much like I defended it. I just think he, 503 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: for a stretch, is one of the best running backs 504 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: I've I've covered or seen, and I thought you could 505 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: see the instincts were all there, like he was making 506 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: some people miss in tight quarters like he would do, 507 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: and you could see that sort of special ability as 508 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: but then once he would make a miss, it was 509 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: like it would just get tackled two yards later. There 510 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: was no big plays, and that's tricky. I mean, when 511 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: you have three touches and there's no big plays. The 512 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line was abysmal, and that's partly why it 513 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: was three point two yards procared. I don't think he 514 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: was that bad. I think he was an average running back. 515 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: He caught sixty six, he was fine, and the old 516 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: line was a lot a lot of it. But if 517 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: you're not making any explosive plays on that many touches, 518 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he had his chances where he could have 519 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: taken it to the second or third level, and he 520 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't do it like you would. You could see 521 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: almost the mind was working, but the body wasn't. Wasn't there. 522 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if that comes back or not. I 523 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: hope it does because I like watching him. When when 524 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty year old balal Pal comes in and looks more 525 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: explosive than the starter, that's a problem. Yeah, well maybe 526 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: maybe don't go bowling in the middle of the year 527 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: when you tell everyone you have us he had the flu. 528 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: I just I mean, but like this bell is he 529 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: is hew plugged in as this guy will find out. 530 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's a fair question. He had the flu 531 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: and he didn't want to infect any of his teammates, understand, 532 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: so you go to the lanes. I don't get that 533 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: as a as a tonic, but he was just clearing 534 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: his mind. Everything was above board in my opinion, and 535 00:28:52,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: he rolled the two fifty that well, I was looking 536 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: for a guy who has a good bet to bounce back. 537 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Was not injured. Access denied. Go to one oh one 538 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: soundboards dot com to access the sound If you already 539 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: came from there, please reload the page In business. Wait, 540 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great Dan like surprise drop 541 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: or something. It was like, no, West is out of 542 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: the show, oh sleeper going for just wow, it is 543 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: getting hotter and hotter in here, all right, go ahead West. Well, 544 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it. He was a guy who 545 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: was on a Hall of Fame career track and and 546 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: may still be. Khalil Mack Um only had eight point 547 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: five sacks last year. The year before he was in 548 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: the I mean, nobody was in the defensive Player of 549 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: the Year conversation except Aaron Donald. But if there, if 550 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: it was, and Khalil mack would have been one of 551 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: the guys discussed. Um he was one of the best 552 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: defensive players in the league. And then last year he 553 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: like the second half of the season, he just disappeared 554 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: and Akeem Hicks was injured. Thank Eddie Goldman missed some 555 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: time so he didn't have those big bodies up front 556 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: occupying blockers. Now they bring in Robert Quinn opposite him. 557 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: Um and Quinn looked fantastic last year. I I I 558 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: see Cleio mac bouncing back, especially for a guy. I 559 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: think Dan heard some whispers at the combine. Maybe the 560 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Bears would look into seeing what he's worth around the league. Yeah, 561 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say too much other than someone 562 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: high ranking within the team was openly asking if he 563 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: was somebody that you know should be around. That's somebody 564 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: that if that's a player who should be in the 565 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: team's futures in the future. M Yeah, there's there's no 566 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: reason to think that. He mean more team drinks in 567 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: during that conversation that happened, right, I know who you 568 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: were speaking with, And it's one situation where you wouldn't 569 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: need a triple source it because it was the most 570 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: um impeccable source you could one could imagine. Let's leave 571 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: it at that, before it becomes as easy as Wes's 572 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: neighbors right right, Uh, MACKI is on track to be 573 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. And I do think like defensive 574 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: lineman or basically non skill players, like they're allowed to 575 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: have down years. I'm saying, like, basically, like when skill 576 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: players have like an eleven hundred yard year when they're 577 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: usually getting yard, people like understand that and they're like, Okay, 578 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: so sometimes guys have bad seasons. It's like that. That 579 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: happens at every position. And yet but I think when 580 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: it's like lineman, it's just like what happened? Is Khalil 581 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Mack just bad forever? There's no reason or not bad. 582 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: But at a different level, there's no reason to think 583 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: he's anything but one of the best five pass rushers 584 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: in the league. So you see him west as a 585 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: guy that easily could be back in the d P 586 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: o I conversation this year. Absolutely, I see him as 587 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: a guy who among edge rushers, is there anybody better 588 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: who needs them back with a strong year? Is that 589 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: Chicago's only chance? You know that they you expect them 590 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: if they're going to be in playoff contention, they have 591 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: to be dominant on defense like they were in that 592 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: first MAX season for stretches. Yeah, they seem like a 593 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: team that and I don't like this dynamic at all. 594 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: That there were too many games where it's like, unless 595 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: they pull off a pick six in the final ten minutes, 596 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: they're not winning the game. I mean it was like 597 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: they need they've they've needed their defense to produce points. Alright, Greg, 598 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: all right, I like this one. Um. Only two receivers 599 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: in NFL history have gained more yards in there before 600 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: their age twenty three than Juju Smith Schuster. Those two receivers, 601 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: by the way, we're Randy Moss and Josh Gordon. What 602 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: a what a combo there. I feel like people have 603 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: given up on Juju as like a difference making receiver 604 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: a little too Steelers maybe right, including the Steelers maybe, 605 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: as I'm not saying that he's he's Julio Jones exactly. 606 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: And uh maybe last here felt like a bit of 607 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: a bit, a bit of a la reveal that he 608 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: had so much trouble with the double coverage that he 609 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: was getting in missing Antonio Brown. But he also had 610 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph as his quarterback. He also had Duck Hodges 611 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: as his quarterback. He's a young player who hadn't had 612 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of adversity, and I think 613 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: what he showed in his couple of seasons to start 614 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: his career makes some a great candidate. Uh for what 615 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Erica was talking about a little early, Come on, Erica, 616 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: hit it. Let's hear it. Create that d D drama 617 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: vide he d J Dallas, Yeah that was me. Did 618 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: you just do that like while we were doing the 619 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: front half of the show. Wait, you guys are doing 620 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: a show. Well. I also think is in a good spot. Um. 621 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: I think that receiver group in Pittsburgh's pretty good. Uh. 622 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: You add Claypool, who who they think supposedly he's gonna 623 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: start Chase Claypool. We'll see. I mean everyone's high on 624 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: rookies this time of year. He's a six four guy 625 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: that they say blocks as well as Hines Ward. And 626 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: you can go deep. You have James Washington, who led 627 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: their team in receiving last year, who might be their 628 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: fourth receiver now. Deonte Johnson was pretty good as a 629 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: rookie and and suddenly it's kind of back to this 630 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: whole thing where the Steelers have a nice receiver crew 631 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: that takes a little pressure after Juju, I think he 632 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: can be a nice little bounce Pa. I'm with you. 633 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: I think like he There's a metric out there that 634 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: the percentage of catchable passages that went towards Juju's direction 635 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: last season UM compared to the year with Big Ben 636 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: in the in the lineup dropped like ten percentage points. 637 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, the the quarterback uh situation 638 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: falling off a cliff had a huge impact on him. 639 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: And I think he's got to be motivated to basically 640 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: turned Antonio Brown into a liar because it was Antonio 641 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Brown that went on air UM not too long ago 642 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and squawked endlessly about the fact that Juju is not 643 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: a lead receiver UM and simply you know it made 644 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: his a off of Antonio Brown pulling the top cornerback 645 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: lack Colonels, Farcesler, come back, come back Colinals. Can we 646 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: just come back with box come back Clonals, come back good. 647 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: It's the three minute version of this, son. Are we 648 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: just sitting random buttons now totally off hanging out and 649 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: hanging out right now? I'm with you guys. By the way, 650 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to put um, you know, a hex 651 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: on any of these guys. But this, this, this topic 652 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: is a tough one for me because my fantasy team 653 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: was Alvin Kamara first and Juju Smith Schuster second. But Juju, 654 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like the quarterback, like we said, 655 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: was not there and then for you to then think 656 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: that he's he's peaked or he's not a true number 657 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: one because the Duke Devon or what what was his name, 658 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Dutch Devil, Duck Hodges Duck Hodges likes and Mason Rudolph 659 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: like these guys, these guys can't play. I mean, we 660 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: we learned that. So you're a fresh start. Now. The 661 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: one caveat I'll add is we'll find out a big 662 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: Ben can still play, yeah, after a year off, but 663 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: that could hold back his ceiling as well, if he's 664 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: even just healthy enough to But I have thought about that, 665 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: Like I feel like the Steelers are the biggest boomer bust. 666 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: See if if Ben Roethlisberger is healthy and plays like 667 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: he did a couple of years ago, it's like they're 668 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender. But it would it surprise anyone 669 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: I feel never plays much or plays well again, Like 670 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: he feels like that's possible. A thirty eight year old 671 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: coming off elbow surgery. Normally we would say like that 672 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: kind of guy is done well, you know, we'll have 673 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: to see and currently looks like a troll living under 674 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: a bridge. So no, that would not surprise me. Did 675 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: anyone else find like when you were doing this exercise, 676 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: you could point to almost the entire offense for several teams, 677 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: and the Steelers being one of them, James Conner, but 678 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles Carson wentz Um with health receivers and then 679 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders emerging, uh, and the Browns to me or 680 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: another one where the entire offense could just bounce back. 681 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: I feel like the Steelers for me, rise above everyone 682 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: in terms of you have no idea which way they're 683 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: going as an organization. They could be playing the NFC 684 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: title game. They can go six and ten. To me, 685 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: it's it's really it's really hard. And I think James 686 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: Conner like on that subject, I have whiplash because I 687 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: remember the beginning of the season when all anybody in 688 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: the football Gagna sent. The I had to say was 689 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: that this guy can play. You'll see he's going to 690 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: be a stud. And then he had a really nice 691 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: season and class road to this offseason. It's like, oh, 692 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: he can't play, he can't carry the load. And I 693 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: know the Steelers internally were disappointed about last year too, 694 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: but last year was pretty messed up. That whole offense 695 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: got sidetracked by the quarterback injury. I just wonder if 696 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: he is a guy that could be bouncing back, which 697 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: you're not hearing a lot of. But I also argue 698 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, I'll let is played instead. Yes, Mark Well, 699 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I thought that Mike Tomlin 700 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: was coach of the Year material ten or eleven weeks 701 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: until last year. I know other teams would have gone 702 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: three and thirteen in that situation. I mean, the defense 703 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: is still arguably maybe top two or three in the league. Well, 704 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: while we're on the Steelers, Eric Ebron is another guy 705 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: down year with the Colts last year, signs up the Steelers. 706 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: Big Ben's always liked a big red zone weapon, and 707 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: and Abrons proved to be one of the better red 708 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: zone tight ends in the league over the last couple 709 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: of years. All you want to throw out quick ones 710 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: before we start off, sure, I'll go um back to Chicago, 711 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: and I think the combination of Matt Nagy and Nick 712 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: Foles who who both Um, I thought last year very 713 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: disappointing for both in different ways. Now they're together. I 714 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: like the fact that Nick Foles knows this coaching off 715 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: really well. Offensive coordinator, head coach, quarterback, coach has worked 716 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: with all of them, so you know, it's not like 717 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: you have to learn a new system. Um, it's a 718 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: good fit for Nick Foles. I'm always suspicious of Nick 719 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: Foles when he is named a starter for the entire season. 720 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Can he get through without another? Um? You know, it's 721 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: one injury after the next. And frankly like was not 722 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: a good quarterback when he played for the Jaguars last year. 723 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: So that both this combination were people not to trust 724 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: there believing well, So none of these guys are coming 725 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: someone that well because that you believe in as a 726 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: comeback Baker Mayfield, Marcus Like, I can't think of anyone 727 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: other than the Browns I'm gonna pick. Let me throw 728 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: one other name out who I do think, who I 729 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: do think could have a comeback season. Who I've also 730 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: flamed on this show recently. Mike McCarthy. Okay, Cowboys coach 731 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy because him as well. Well, here's what I 732 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of pressure on Mike McCarthy. What 733 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: I was questioning is if the man himself has gone 734 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: through this um incredible personal revolution that we were, you know, 735 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: that has been touted all offseason, that needs a changed person. 736 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I believe people can change. I don't know 737 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: if all football coaches can to the same degree. And 738 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: but it would be an incredible disappointment if Mike McCarthy 739 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 1: and the combination of what they have on offense don't 740 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. This was an eight and eight 741 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: team last season last year. Uh, what's not to like 742 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy stepping into this role in a NFC 743 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: East that has two very questionable teams in the Giants 744 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: and Redskins right in there. So if they're not a 745 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: wild card team with an extra seventh team added to 746 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: the NFC, UM it would be a I consider a 747 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: massive problem for Mike McCarthy to have to deal with. 748 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: Pr wise, UM, I had Baker Mayfield on my list 749 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: as well. He just makes a ton of sense how 750 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: promising was as a rookie, and the the Browns obviously 751 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: poured a lot of resources and tender love and care 752 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: in trying to get things fixed around him, So now 753 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: he's just gotta do it. And uh, I will throw 754 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: in one more running back, Todd Gurley, who everyone has 755 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: essentially written off, and as I've noted on this podcast, 756 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line was kind of crap last year 757 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: and he still found the end zone a ton last year, 758 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: and these professional athletes are are proud dudes. I wonder 759 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: if a fresh start is exactly what what he needs 760 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: in Atlanta in a nice set up there, with a 761 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: good offense around him. Is Todd Gurley ever going to 762 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: be the guy that exploded on the scene? Uh with 763 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: the Rams? Probably not? But can he be a Pro 764 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: Bowl guy total yard, ten touchdown guy this year? Absolutely? 765 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: And to me that would be comeback season. Yeah. He 766 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: was on my list too, And it's not something I 767 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: feel strongly about because there's still so many questions. But 768 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: I thought he did run better around Thanksgiving and into 769 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: December last year. And I don't know, another year removed 770 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: from a nebulus knee injury that we never really figured 771 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: out what it was. I guess it's arthritic now, but 772 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. Maybe another year away will help um. 773 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: But but going a little bit deeper, a guy I 774 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: thought was the best running back on the forty Niners 775 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: entering last season. Matt Breeda now with the Dolphins, and 776 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: I think it's a better player than Jordan Howard. So 777 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, which for Matt Brida is 778 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: a huge if because he never stays healthy, I don't 779 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: think he's I think he's over five yards per carry 780 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: for his career. He's a dynamic, playmaking running back when 781 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: he's healthy. Close out, all right, I'm gonna run through 782 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: a the speed round. Maybe we'll get to these topics 783 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: later in the offseason. Mattie Ice with Todd Gurley. You 784 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: know he didn't play that great last year or either. 785 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: I think he can get better. Uh my boy, Phil Rivers, 786 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm just sensing I'm gonna be into the Colts this year. Yeah. 787 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: I think I'm with the team of westl this year. 788 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: It's the Cults, Bronco Colts. Oh, I'm higher on the Cools. Yeah, 789 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm into the Heart like your hearts with Denver though, no, 790 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: I think you guys want my heart to be with Denver. Well, 791 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: I consider that news. So I thought you were all 792 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: in on the Broncos. I know you guys did Uh 793 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, I think is getting back in the lab. 794 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: He's got some young players. Uh, he's got Cooper cut back. 795 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: I could see Sean McVeigh coming back and looking a 796 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: little smarter this year. But I'm gonna wrap up and 797 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: and be a bit longer and the more surprising deck. 798 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: How about the Jaguars defense, which you look, you lose Shamble, 799 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: but you you look at their front seven and you 800 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: have Josh Allen, who was almost a defensive Rookie of 801 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: the Year. You have Unique and Gockway who's back. He 802 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: has no choice. He's playing. He can make more money 803 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: by week three than he's made an his entire career. 804 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: He's not holding out and so they knew that. Um, 805 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: they're okay. In the middle, you get Joe Schober who 806 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: was a pretty good pick up, Miles Jack's coming off 807 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: a bad year. You draft uh, Collevion Chase On like 808 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: that's a that's a nice looking h little front seven 809 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: H for the Jacksonville Jaguars, And I think, I mean 810 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: they were so bad, they were one of the worst 811 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: defensive league. It didn't make any sense. Put a button 812 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: on this by somebody's gotta bring up Cam Newton, and 813 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have a team, but if he 814 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: if he's when he signs, I just think there's a 815 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: chance he could not only you know, end up starting games, 816 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: depending depending where he goes. But surprise, a lot of 817 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: people are still just thirty one years old. Hopefully the 818 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: shoulder is right and uh, I'd like to see it, 819 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: but he's got a sign to the team, so it's 820 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: hard to really prognosticate that. But Cam Newton obvious comeback 821 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate, if he ever got the 822 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: opportunity this year, where would you want to see him play? 823 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: If if it was up to Dan Hantis, like you 824 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: most enjoy it. I already know it. Den. Yeah, I'm 825 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: on board with that. And that defense again in my 826 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: mentions are gonna be attacking me, but you look, he's 827 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: the next savior. Calm down. Cam Newton would make you 828 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: a better team. He'd make the Bears better instantly. I 829 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: know they're tied up in all this money with foals 830 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: who have just touted us a comeback figure. I mean, 831 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: it always mystified me that they didn't just go after 832 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton to begin with. He looked, he looked perfect 833 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: in the Bear's uniform ian he'd fit everything, He'd fit perfectly. 834 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: Got an awesome comeback situation. Your endorsement of nick fools 835 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: last seconds. Well, I'm just I yeah, I'm seeing those 836 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: guys need to come Back's important person in your organization 837 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: is your quarterback. In the second most important person in 838 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: your organization is your back up quarter back. Go get one. 839 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's show. Now, very important 840 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: that everyone knows this. If you missed the end of 841 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: last week's show, We have an NFL Network program coming 842 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: up on Friday, three pm Pacific, six pm Eastern to 843 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: be around the NFL Show. It is going to be 844 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: completely fresh content. Nothing that we're really talking about here 845 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: will be subjects on that program. So it's essentially a 846 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: brand new episode of the podcast, only it's on TV 847 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: and you could see our beautiful warrantine beards uh and 848 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: everyone will be excited. In fact, I see this as 849 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: a show of faith from the company. This will air 850 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: five different times on Friday alone, So if you miss 851 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: the initial airing, just know that you will have many 852 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: opportunities on Friday and even into Saturday to watch the 853 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: premier episode. We hope there's a long run for this one. 854 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but we definitely have a show 855 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: coming up on Friday, and we will west be touching 856 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: on the schedule release tomorrow, So get excited for that. 857 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Edgy, your seat for that one. And I 858 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: personally and thankful if it's gonna be on five times. 859 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna bother figuring out when it's on 860 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: in British summertime or Greenwich meantime or whatever. You know. 861 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: You're yeah, you have, you have if you're out there, 862 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: no excuse not to track it down at some point. 863 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: Do our overseas listeners even have the option to watch 864 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: the program? Well, they're a game pass right International has 865 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: NFL network? Yeah, yea. Well, by the way, and when 866 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: you talk about our mentions, don't tweet at us if 867 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: you don't have NFL network. That's not something I'm concerned with. 868 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: Figure it out. I'm not figuring that out for you. 869 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: I've got enough on my plate right now as it is. 870 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: We have a lot on our plate. Greg his plate 871 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: is full and he and he likes it that way 872 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: at Gregg. He'll help you out with us with the 873 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: network issues. The man is completely a piece right now. 874 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: So that is the guy to go do with any 875 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: questions about how to catch the Around the NFL Show 876 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Nothing great, I mean I've been distracted 877 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: here by a child disturbing this piece. Are changing in 878 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: showtime has taking me out of my piece. Alright. This 879 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson signing off for The Quiet Storm, The Mailman, 880 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: the Old Boss Walker, Ricky Hollywood. Thank you for watching 881 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: it or listening and watch us on Friday. Until then, 882 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: W