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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and Free Agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined

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Speaker 1: by my friend Daniel Jeremiah in a hotel in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: We have our two teams for Super Bowl sixty set

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Speaker 1: and DJ is in Mobile. That's how you know we

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Speaker 1: are getting deep into this football calendar and draft season

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Speaker 1: is really getting going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some people have referred to it now as forties

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Speaker 2: and free Agenciason, you know, like it really is where

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Speaker 2: the name well well chosen at that comes into play.

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Speaker 2: We're getting ready to We're getting closer to free agency,

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Speaker 2: getting closer to forties. Got some players out here, so

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. I will tell you I did

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Speaker 2: get some feedback in the league on the show. Great wow,

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Speaker 2: love to pass this along. It felt almost like a

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Speaker 2: Calm Brady backhanded compliment to Sam Darnold throughout that entire game,

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Speaker 2: which was, Hey, I really liked the new pod. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like surprisingly, yeah, it's good, And it was like kind

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Speaker 2: of snuck that little surprisingly h in there. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we'll take it, right.

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Speaker 1: I will take that. I don't know what that says

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Speaker 1: about your other podcasts. You have another podcast, right, I

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Speaker 1: think it was.

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Speaker 2: More about the new personnel was working with. I's like

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Speaker 2: the expectations there, and then they're.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know what he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not bad, he's good for you for who.

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Speaker 3: Is who is that guy? Look?

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with the Super Bowl quickly because

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Speaker 1: we've been doing the you know, kind of autopsy of

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Speaker 1: the teams that went out, and so we'll talk Broncos

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Speaker 1: Rams in a second. We're also going to talk about

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Speaker 1: your big Top fifty list which came out, and then

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Speaker 1: we're going to do kind of an overview.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: It is free agency season, of the free agent quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that will be available, maybe some guys that could get

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Speaker 1: cut in some trade options, but just on those games.

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Speaker 1: I did kind of want to mention whether wonder if

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Speaker 1: you find this interesting between these two teams, the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots. Guess where they ranked in free agency

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Speaker 1: spending from a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I know the Patriots might be number one. Right,

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Speaker 2: they threw out massive amount of money and they.

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Speaker 3: Were first by quite a bit, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: And then Seattle obviously the Donald money they had. I

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Speaker 2: want to say they did the linebacker right, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think a lot after Sam, I would say middle

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Speaker 1: They finished fourth in free agency spending. I think the

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Speaker 1: Donald contract goes a long way. Weren't a lot one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contracts, and technically, even though it felt

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Speaker 1: like a good deal, it is. And so if you

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Speaker 1: just look at total money in all the contracts, given

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Speaker 1: the number one team in terms of spending, the number

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Speaker 1: four team in terms of spending. They also spend big

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Speaker 1: money on DeMarcus Lawrence. You mentioned Ernest Jones. Some of

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Speaker 1: it was re signing their own players like Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 1: but that's what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not going to Cooper Cup was another guy who got

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. If you think about like, obviously

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Speaker 1: you want to build through the draft, but this Patriots

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Speaker 1: wonder if all the spending that they did, Milton Williams, Stefan.

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Speaker 1: Roberts Plane, some of the lower guys like Garrett Bradbury, Morgan,

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Speaker 1: Moses calebon Chase and they're all making impacts. You can

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing That's interesting is you know, if

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Speaker 2: I can then also look at it from the draft

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Speaker 3: It is all happening.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of salary cap space out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's start talking about these teams that got knocked out.

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Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised I should have been on this

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Speaker 1: mine out, But it might be where the free agents are.

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Speaker 1: Cam curl is a free agent at safety, solid player

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Speaker 1: for them. Kobe Durant was pretty good for them at cornerback.

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Speaker 1: but very few free agents. Draft picks up at the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what I had them doing, which,

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Speaker 2: day before, their secondary gets torched, you know, and it

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Speaker 2: becomes even a more pronounced issue. So the Rams fans

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Speaker 2: did not like not giving them a corner there at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: but I had him taking Makay Leonard from USC You say, okay, gosh,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I don't know there's a human being

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Speaker 1: Yeah, DeVante Adams has one year left on his contract,

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Speaker 2: High they find their raft, they find them later.

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Speaker 3: Or free agency.

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Speaker 1: So I would be a little surprised if they did

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Speaker 1: because you know, DeVante Adams one year left on what's

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Speaker 3: Now. He has leverage and I'm sure they will do right.

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Speaker 1: By him, and there's no reason to think that he's

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Speaker 1: So they will figure that out, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: By the way, our friend, I'm not going to say

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Speaker 2: it's just your friend, our friend. Jordan Roderic did such

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Speaker 2: And so went through and read that whole thing, and

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Speaker 2: it's just if you haven't read it, I would encourage

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Speaker 2: people to go read it because it's a great look

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Speaker 1: I would call Jordan a friend. Everyone should check that

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that they will invest more there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: a great podcast called NFL Daily multiple time times a week.

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Speaker 3: You should check that one out. So it's got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one day, one day.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos twenty seven million dollars in cav space and

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Speaker 1: Like Darius Williams was one for the Rams. Evan Ingram

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Speaker 1: he was okay for them. But he's sort of part

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is a free agent wide receiver. I think they

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Speaker 2: Trust me, I picked him way too high in a

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Speaker 2: He always just likes the bigger receivers. So there are

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Speaker 1: a little bit about your top fifty list, which is

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Speaker 1: coming out. This is a big day. Well, how does

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Speaker 1: you know. I like making lists and make little free

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of responsibility. DJ.

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Speaker 2: How now those calls go, those calls go, How the heck.

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Speaker 3: Do you not have my guys X y Z.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to talk to more people in

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Speaker 2: the league. I'm like, that's fine, but this will give you.

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Speaker 2: This is my This is the first and I'm not

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Speaker 2: even exaggerating, Greg. This is the first comment that I saw,

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Speaker 2: It's like a guilty pleasure to watch these. So this

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Speaker 2: If we draft a white safety from Oregon, I will

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Speaker 3: At least that's funny.

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Speaker 2: At least this guy, I guarantee he has never seen

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Speaker 1: To Cooper Dejene, who I think is starting to open

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Speaker 1: It's happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Cooper Egene was in my top twenty players. I

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Speaker 1: One of the best at his position, maybe the best

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Speaker 1: your list. Two quarterback in the top fifty, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: So Frandom Mende's a quarterback for me Dia number one.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame running back. That's based off

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Speaker 2: So he's a freaky athlete. Out of Ohio State. David

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Speaker 2: Bailey was highly sought after transfer out of Stanford. Texas

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Speaker 2: Really dynamic, explosive, tons of production. He's a fourth on

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Speaker 2: the list. Sunny Styles to yourself a favor your first

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Speaker 2: homework assignment, Greg for this draft season, Sonny Styles. Just

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Speaker 2: type in Sonny Styles Basketball and watch Sunny Styles Basketball

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Speaker 2: highlights in high school. It's going to be the best

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Speaker 2: but Kayle Lemons my top receiver. He's number seven out

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Speaker 2: as I was doing more people after I did this

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Speaker 2: great reminder. They had pass rushers, they had, you know,

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Speaker 2: they could blow Miami and they're done. Lose a Big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have three edge players in the top six.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious before we do take that break Mendoza versus

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Speaker 2: it's Caleb, Drake May, Jayden Daniels. All three of those

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Speaker 2: and it was my comparison for this reason.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I got it, I got it. Go ahead, Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. That was my comment because.

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Speaker 3: I was like Teddy Bridgewater didn't win an MVP.

439
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Speaker 2: But you'll forget Matt Ryan in college could move around

440
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Speaker 2: a little bit. And then that's where the Maddy Ice thing,

441
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Speaker 2: you know, that's this guy was culture competitive late in

442
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Speaker 2: games like fiery just found a way to win. Now

443
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Speaker 2: it's a little different personality, but when random Mendoza got hit,

444
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Speaker 2: when he got beat up and then big moments, he

445
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Speaker 2: could step his game up and guys kind of rallied

446
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Speaker 2: around him, similar to Matt Ryan.

447
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Speaker 1: There and we'll just like deliver a big time throw

448
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Speaker 1: when you're least expecting.

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Speaker 3: It and Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan had more just talent, I think than people

451
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Speaker 1: give him credit. So that's a fun comp I feel

452
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Speaker 1: like I'm on my back foot here. I got to

453
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Speaker 1: start doing my homework on this draft. But I'm I'm

454
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Speaker 1: ranking all the free agents. We're getting that top one

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Speaker 1: o one list ready. We're going to take a break

456
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Speaker 1: and come back and we're going to talk about some

457
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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that will be on that list and

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Speaker 1: available this offseason.

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Speaker 3: We are back on forties and free agents.

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Speaker 1: About half of the NFL head co jobs are settled

461
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Speaker 1: around the NFL. In this little segment, DJ, we're going

462
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Speaker 1: to talk about the teams that are desperately in need

463
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Speaker 1: of a quarterback, that need one, that faced some questions,

464
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Speaker 1: and talk about the players that will be available. It

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Speaker 1: will not surprise you that many of many of the

466
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Speaker 1: teams need a quarterback also found a new coach or

467
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Speaker 1: a new play caller. There's like not a lot of

468
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Speaker 1: carryover for teams like let's say Miami, that it's basically

469
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Speaker 1: starting at scratch at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I love it. By the way, when you're in a hotel,

471
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Speaker 2: this is a sign you know that you just don't

472
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Speaker 2: you don't really care about, you know, what's going on

473
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Speaker 2: with pop culture and new shows and things. I can't

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Speaker 2: even tell you how many times I've done this where

475
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Speaker 2: it's just the TV just stays on the little screen

476
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Speaker 2: when you check in. I just realized it's been on

477
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Speaker 2: this whole time, and it's just I mean, I don't

478
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Speaker 2: know if this is going to get into some Mario

479
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Speaker 2: Lopez movie previews here pretty soon, but it's it's trending

480
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Speaker 2: in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Does it say your name? Is it that nice of

482
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Speaker 1: a hotel or it's like, Hello, Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Daniel, thank you for staying at the Battlehouse? Thank you? Huh?

484
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Speaker 2: How about that?

485
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Speaker 1: That's how you know your big time that you're making

486
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Speaker 1: that coin you're not making as much as Malik Willis

487
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Speaker 1: is about to make, though, So the best the.

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Speaker 3: Best free agency options.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be Malik Willis, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, it's going to be Aaron Rodgers. I had

491
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Speaker 1: a longer list than there's all these backups. I think

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Speaker 1: our producer just deleted them all because he just doesn't

493
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Speaker 1: want to be talking about the riff raff out there

494
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Speaker 1: that's just going to kind of be filling these backup spots.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting that Rogers might have a path back

496
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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh now because of Mike McCarthy. Ultimately, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that should be option number one for them. Do

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Speaker 1: you think a team like Pittsburgh or Miami or whoever's

499
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Speaker 1: out there and just has nothing should be looking at

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody that's not settling at the quarterback position

502
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Speaker 2: should be interested in Malik Willis, especially when you you're

503
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Speaker 2: not going to be in the mix for the number

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Speaker 2: one overall picking this draft, as we've discussed, I think

505
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Speaker 2: there's a big drop off after that, and I stack

506
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Speaker 2: Malik Willis up quite favorably. And he's not he's not

507
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Speaker 2: old like, he's still just getting going.

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Speaker 1: That one game it is, it's risky, but now you

509
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Speaker 1: can look at a bunch of games. It's not like

510
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Speaker 1: it's not just that one start, but the one against

511
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Speaker 1: you know, the Bears. When when he came in, there

512
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Speaker 1: was such a variety of the high quality.

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Speaker 2: So fast, he looked like the fastest guy on the field.

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Speaker 1: So if you get the right coach with him, and

515
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Speaker 1: so we'll see, you know, Jeff Hafley hired Bobby Slowik

516
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Speaker 1: as his offensive corney. You're not like an amazing run

517
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Speaker 1: in Houston, but they're a team that's going to be

518
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Speaker 1: looking for one. I want to mix up kind of

519
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Speaker 1: the teams and the quarterbacks. Then you can give me

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Speaker 1: some of your thoughts that my category of teams that

521
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Speaker 1: were desperate were the Dolphins, the Jets, the Browns, sorry fans,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. By the way, that is a pro bowler

523
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Speaker 1: feels a lot like pro bowler Tyler Huntley from a

524
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Speaker 1: few years ago where he only played four games, I believe,

525
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Speaker 1: but got a lot of joke votes from Ravens fans.

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Speaker 3: No one remembers that, but you don't remember that. And

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Speaker 3: then the.

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Speaker 1: Raiders, who you figure are just going to take by

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Speaker 1: the way, like, are you just assuming that while I

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Speaker 1: got you here?

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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, look, it's've been surprised before, but I

532
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Speaker 2: would be stunned unless there's I can't think of a

533
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Speaker 2: scenario where that would not be the case. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, is there do they hire

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Speaker 2: somebody who's connected to one of these other quarterbacks that

536
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Speaker 2: could potentially get you know, is it Mac Jones or

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously Malik he you're talking about. But I

538
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Speaker 2: can't envision that right.

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Speaker 1: And I was wondering, because Happley was with Malik Willison

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, whether he would have an offensive coach that

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Speaker 1: had familiarity and we don't know about the assistant who

542
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Speaker 1: are coming in there. It's still early in the process,

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Speaker 1: because that would have been a logical spot for him.

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Speaker 3: To me, Pittsburgh would be intriguing.

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Speaker 1: It seems a little crazy to me to be rolling

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Speaker 1: out Rogers and McCarthy in twenty six, But that's that's me.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's a good pan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was over. I thought there's

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Speaker 2: no chance that I thought the Aaron Rogers Pittsburgh thing

550
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Speaker 2: that was, we saw it. It's over that that chapter's close.

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Speaker 2: And then McCarthy got hired, and I'm like, well, maybe

552
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Speaker 2: maybe they try and squeeze one more year out. To me,

553
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Speaker 2: like we're talking about what could happen in different potential

554
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Speaker 2: scenarios if we flip the conversation to what I think

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Speaker 2: is best for Pittsburgh. To me, I would roll with

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Speaker 2: what you have right now on the roster, and I

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Speaker 2: would actually want to see will Howard if it's anywhere

558
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Speaker 2: close in a competition, I'd want to see Will Howard

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Speaker 2: win it, because I don't know that there's a bad

560
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Speaker 2: scenario there. He plays well and you're like, oh my gosh,

561
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Speaker 2: we've got this six round quarterback and won a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Turns out he was better than people thought. And what

563
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Speaker 2: you know, it costs us nothing or it goes terrible.

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Speaker 2: And in a draft that, at least from this far out,

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Speaker 2: looks like it's going to be pretty good at that

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Speaker 2: position and you're going to be picking up there for

567
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Speaker 2: once instead of being in the Pittsburgh Steelers No Man

568
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Speaker 2: slam where they've been well.

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Speaker 1: Our colleague Tom pelisera who seems to have a strong

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Speaker 1: ind with McCarthy he's often front and center on McCarthy news,

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Speaker 1: said that McCarthy was a big fan of Will Howard

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Speaker 1: in the draft process and kind of wants to see

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Speaker 1: how he looks. And it's tricky because I think McCarthy,

574
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Speaker 1: based on all the reportings, sold himself as a guy.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking to rebuild, and we talked about their roster.

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Speaker 3: They actually don't.

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Speaker 1: They have plenty of cap room, they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of talented players, they actually don't have many contracts. I

579
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Speaker 1: think that they need to get rid of. There's this

580
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Speaker 1: idea that they need to, you know, change the whole roster.

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Speaker 1: That's not how the Steelers do business.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: They're going to want to compete and develop and find

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and getting Will Howard a chance might be

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Speaker 1: part of that. I got to assume Daniel Jones is

586
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Speaker 1: going back to the Colt, So then you know the

587
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Speaker 1: free agency crop is not great. You start looking at

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Speaker 1: the trade options and a top my list here would

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Speaker 1: be Kyler Murray Tanner McKee. Her cousins played pretty well

590
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Speaker 1: at the end of last season. I gotta say, and

591
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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that they're gonna cut a merchrade him,

592
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Speaker 1: but he's an option and to a tongue of Iloa

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Speaker 1: who has a contract that's going to be difficult to move.

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Speaker 1: But movie shall one way or another, whether he's Mac

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Speaker 1: is below those Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones is in there too.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan immediately said, I can't see a situation.

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Speaker 2: That seemed like it was that was a leverage play

599
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Speaker 2: is what it felt like to me.

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Speaker 3: And he's done those over the years. Cynthia Frielan on

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Speaker 3: Our show.

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Speaker 1: Game Debut, always calls Kyle Shannahan, who she knows well,

603
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Speaker 1: the lion liar who lies talking about his press conferences

604
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Speaker 1: and like with affection that he's always like doing some

605
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Speaker 1: sort of leverage thing.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You have a great backup in mac Jones for very

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Speaker 1: little money, and you have a quarterback has missed a

609
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Speaker 1: lot of games, and you're trying to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I actually I tend to trust him that mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is unlikely to get the draft pick that they would

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Speaker 1: require to actually move on from.

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Speaker 3: But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone would give up a

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Speaker 3: two or something.

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Speaker 2: For mac Jones. Yeah, well let's see, let's see who,

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Speaker 2: you know, how the game of musical chairs goes down,

617
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Speaker 2: and who's left looking at the other options? Gott maybe,

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Speaker 2: I uh, maybe I will pay a little exture there

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Speaker 2: on mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: How about like Kyler Murray in a place like Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: or in a place that's more of a rebuilding type

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Speaker 1: of place like the Jets or the Browns.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking when Kyler was coming out, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I said, like I thought, man, you know, kind of

625
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Speaker 2: just with his size and then the speed. Ideally a

626
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Speaker 2: West Coast place indoors where Oh wait, that's where he.

627
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Speaker 3: Was, so yeah, I mean it wasn't here. It wasn't

628
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Speaker 3: that bad though, I know it was.

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Speaker 2: A lot of good in there before it got sideways there.

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Speaker 2: But like I like him in the NFC salth I

631
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Speaker 2: think the NFC South, the a FC South, the West.

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Speaker 2: Like to me, like, I don't know if I want

633
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Speaker 2: to throw Kyler Murray. I just when I worked in

634
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Speaker 2: those with those teams in that division, and I worked

635
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Speaker 2: in Baltimore, and I worked in Cleveland, and then you

636
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Speaker 2: know even in Philadelphia, Like you wanted guys in that

637
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: weather and in that environment and the physicality and those divisions,

638
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: Like just wanted a bigger guy. And I'm not saying,

639
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, smaller quarterbacks can't be successful. I'm just saying,

640
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: you gott to find the right fit. And I don't

641
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: know if Pittsburgh, if that one necessarily feels right. When

642
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: there's like no footing on the field and it's snowing,

643
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna look so small and not be able to

644
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Speaker 2: utilize his athleticism. I think that kind of strips away

645
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Speaker 2: as superpower.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't sound like a Steeler.

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Speaker 1: I definitely buy that Miami could could possibly be an option.

648
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City is an interesting one out there. I had

649
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Speaker 1: a category of just needs a quarterback, like needs one,

650
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Speaker 1: but they're not desperate in Kansas City would be in

651
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: that category because I don't think you want to rush

652
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes back. But Gardner Minshew is also coming off

653
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Speaker 1: of a season ending injury that happened even later. He's

654
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Speaker 1: not going to be back anytime soon. I would imagine

655
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Speaker 1: you're trying to win a Super Bowl next year. You

656
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Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes coming back on the field at some point,

657
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Speaker 1: would you know one of these guys, maybe even a

658
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Speaker 1: Tanner McKee or a short term pick up for Tua

659
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Speaker 1: And it's almost like a rejuvenation project where you have

660
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Speaker 1: Tua starting for like a month before Mahomes gets ready.

661
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Speaker 1: I think they're an interesting player in this entire quarterback

662
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Speaker 1: kind of eCos.

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Speaker 3: Welcome this offseason. I will give you.

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Speaker 2: A little background on that, and not haven't talked to anybody,

665
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: but just having worked with Andy Reid for two years,

666
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Speaker 2: I remember being at the combine and where we were

667
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: picking and the quarterbacks we were talking to, and I

668
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: finally I just had to ask and my coach, like,

669
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Speaker 2: why are we going to get Robert Griffin the third

670
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: like he he's like I like talking to all the

671
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: top quarterbacks every year because you never know what's going

672
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: to happen and everyone's going to have free agency, and

673
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: he just he's really really good at developing relationships and

674
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Speaker 2: making an impression on those guys. So like, I wouldn't

675
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Speaker 2: be shocked at all if he'd met with Kyler, even

676
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Speaker 2: though he knew he would have no chance of ever,

677
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Speaker 2: you know, drafting him at that point in time.

678
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Speaker 1: Hugh, that would be an interesting one. Do you have

679
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: any hot takes on Tanna McKey. I don't know if

680
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: you've been grinding the preseason Eagle State, but he's looked

681
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: pretty good in the preseason, very good in some regular

682
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Speaker 1: season performance.

683
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Speaker 3: Is not as good as Week eighteen this year, but

684
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Speaker 3: not not bad.

685
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Speaker 1: But I do think there there could be a market

686
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Speaker 1: for Tanner McKey out there.

687
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Speaker 2: I was living in Myrietta at the time and there

688
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: was a high school playoff game and it was a

689
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: big time high school program was coming into play. Myriad

690
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Speaker 2: a valley was Centennial High School, which, like where I

691
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: remember him form when font has perfect had gone there

692
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Speaker 2: but have since gone on to be like a national powerhouse.

693
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, I'm gonna take my two

694
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: boys were young at the time. I'm going to take

695
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Speaker 2: him to this high school game. So I go there.

696
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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about any of these kids, but

697
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Speaker 2: it's right across the street from my house. I'm gonna

698
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: go watch it. This quarterbacks out there, he's like six

699
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Speaker 2: foot six and he's just running. He's running around, making

700
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: plays with his legs and slinging it. And I I'm

701
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: in the stadium and I called David Shaw, who I'd

702
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: worked with, and I coach. He's at Stanford, the head coach.

703
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: I go, coach, I said, do you know anything about

704
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: this quarterback at centennialis yeah, I think we're getting them.

705
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you're getting a good one. This

706
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: guy is talented, manly. You'd see it as a high

707
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: school kid that there's a lot of ability there. So

708
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: he was much talked about much valleyhood player, going all

709
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: the way back to them.

710
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Speaker 1: And I think he's like developed, he's been in the

711
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: quarterback factory. Maybe he goes won't want to let him go,

712
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: but he has been a topic a conversation in Philadelphia.

713
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Speaker 1: Someone that could be possible, possible cuts. I would throw

714
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in there as well. They might just flat

715
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: cut him because they changed his contract. And for people

716
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Speaker 1: that didn't watch late season Falcons.

717
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Like don't, I don't blame you.

718
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people probably saw that Monday

719
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: night game against the Rams that was typical. Like Kirk

720
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Speaker 1: Cousins looked much better in twenty twenty five, a year

721
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: further away from the surgery. He just looked like, worst case,

722
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: like a solid backup to bridge quarterback, which is what

723
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Speaker 1: you would expect. Now he's turning thirty eight years old.

724
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: So some team, if it's not the Falcons, will want him.

725
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Justin Fields could be out there, Gino Smith could.

726
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Speaker 3: Be out there.

727
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of teams are going to

728
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: get too excited about that. Anthony Richardson might be available.

729
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you that question here if I want

730
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: to go back, if you are Kevin O'Connell, m with

731
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: where JJ McCarthy is right now and how this team

732
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: is ready to win right now, would you consider trying

733
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: to bring Kirk back? And if at the absolute low

734
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: end he's insurance, at the high end, it's hey, you

735
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: can you compete? I think you can beat this guy

736
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Speaker 2: out and reclaim this starting job here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would consider that the problem is that almost

738
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Speaker 1: to me says actually we do believe in JJ, because

739
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Speaker 1: that to me just feels like a fallback plan if

740
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Speaker 1: like it goes poorly with JJ, there's another I think Kirk.

741
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Would look at it that way now, to beat this

742
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: kid out.

743
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: He's going to go there and he's going to compete,

744
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: and and maybe he could. I don't think that's a

745
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: bad option because you kind of know what you're getting.

746
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: I think there's a whole other world where they're in

747
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: the Malik Willis business. I mean, I don't think there's

748
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: another guy that would be a fit out of the

749
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: potentially available quarterbacks. But I mean they could aim even

750
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Speaker 1: higher than Kirk Cousins.

751
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Speaker 3: Potentially interesting, interesting change. Things changed fast.

752
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Speaker 1: I do remember there was like an NFL Films clip

753
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: of Kevin o'conna hugging Anthony Richardson after one game or whatever.

754
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: He's like, you're you're still gonna make it. Believe in yourself, bro,

755
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is what real coaches do. This

756
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: what quarterback you know? And so who knows, maybe he

757
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: would maybe give Anthony richardson the test drive.

758
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: At some point, I think it'll be one that people

759
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: will want. I don't think that anybody's gonna be scared

760
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: of J. J. McCarthy's presence, and I think they'd be

761
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: excited to play with the guys that they have there

762
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: on the perimeter.

763
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Speaker 1: And I threw the Texans in just as like a

764
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: question mark that I would answer myself. I don't think

765
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: they're kind of considered doing anything at quarterback.

766
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Speaker 3: I think they fully believe in c J. Stroud.

767
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: He has two years left on his contract. Davis Mills

768
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: is a good backup who's also wonder contract. Whoa whoa

769
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: whoa whoa Yes.

770
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: I think you can make the statement that they believe

771
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: in CJ. Stroud. If you make the statement they fully

772
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: believe in c J. Stroud, that means you're going to

773
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: get this deal done sooner than later. And I didn't.

774
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they did that huge deal

775
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: with him after the way that went down at the

776
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: end of the year. It's one thing to say we're

777
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: not looking to replace you. It's another thing saying we're

778
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: going to sign up to be the next, you know,

779
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: bazillion dollar quarterback. You know where that number lies at

780
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: this point in time. I didn't. I don't. That would

781
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: surprise me.

782
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: That's a fair way to split the difference.

783
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I think they're going to want to stand pat where

784
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: they're at with him and Davis Mills. They're gonna have

785
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to pick up the fifth year of his rookie deal.

786
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: They will do that. It wouldn't totally shock me if they.

787
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: If he comes and he's having a good camp and everything,

788
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: and then quietly he actually takes a little bit of

789
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: a below market deal and does sign like a three

790
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: or four year contract. Maybe it's shorter term, but you're right,

791
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: they probably are going to stay away from that because

792
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: they don't want to insult them with an offer that's

793
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: too low. But there's always an opportunity maybe save a

794
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: little money long term. That's our veterans situation. We'll be

795
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: tracking it on forties in free agents throughout February Draft.

796
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: It's all happening. It's not the best quarterback draft in

797
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: the world or free agency.

798
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: But sometimes sometimes we get it wrong. So I can

799
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: go back to eg on my face on Patrick Mahomes,

800
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know. He just end up being

801
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: our the best players ever put cleats on. I didn't

802
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: see that one coming, so you never know.

803
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean, well, here's the thing, there's got to be

804
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: a lot of movement between the rookies and the veterans, Like, yeah,

805
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: you might not be excited for some of these names

806
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: that are out there, like plenty of them are going

807
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: to be playing, because think of the teams that are

808
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: going to be needing someone to play Miami, New York, Cleveland, Pittsburgh,

809
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. There's questions in Atlanta. There's certainly questions in Minnesota.

810
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have Jacoby Brissette, but they'll probably look to

811
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: get one the Chiefs like, that's a lot of teams

812
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: and not a lot of names, so we will be

813
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: tracking that over the next I threw Gino in there,

814
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: but I just didn't want to take the inevitable shot

815
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: that you.

816
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: Were like, oh, yeah, Juna's washed, Gino's done. He'll get somewhere.

817
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: Whatever happened his old team.

818
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: I think maybe Minnesota for Gina. How about how about

819
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: him as JJ's backup?

820
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: It could work. Put him in that system.

821
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Jjb okay with that, you know what you Your Sam

822
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Speaker 1: Darnold takes are aging well, So I applaud you for not.

823
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Speaker 2: Just I don't even think I brought up his name

824
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: during this episode, did I?

825
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't think, I mean you pretty much just did

826
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: you all? You also nailed the Cooper Cup contract with

827
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Seattle last year, saying like the level.

828
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: Of money, it seems like a million years ago.

829
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: That he was going to get not a ton of production,

830
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: but some massive plays in the playoffs. Pla man, I'm

831
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: gonna say in the playoffs, if if he was producing

832
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: these type of game changing plays throughout the regular season,

833
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: they would love it.

834
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Speaker 3: And this is what it's all about, is winning a

835
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Speaker 3: super Bowl.

836
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: They got a chance to do it, and they got

837
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: a chance to do it for you, your guys, Darnold

838
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: and Cut playing for your honor. Did we ever say

839
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: what's at stake here for who's going to win this draft?

840
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't think we did.

841
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: But maybe you have to host the show. Maybe you

842
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: have to host a show, or you could put your

843
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: name for saying.

844
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: Like, if the audience wins. Is that what we're saying.

845
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: I thought we were saying, like if one of us won.

846
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: Everyone wins. We will be back next week.

847
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: You can recap the Senior Bowl, everything going down in mobile.

848
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: We are getting closer and closer, obviously to the super

849
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Bowl and to free agency.

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Speaker 3: We will see you next time.