1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: with you as well, and we have got a pack 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: show for you, including some breaking news that deals with 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the sentencing of Hunter Biden, plus a massive change in 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: narrative from the White House basically now admitting that okay, yes, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: the President did get involved with the son's business dealings 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: and they were hoping that no one would notice this admission. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: We noticed it. We're going to play that for you. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Plus a big win on the strategic patroleum reserves, which 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: is going to have a huge impact on this country. Senator, 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: let's first start though with this judge, break this down 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: because this scandal in Delaware on the eve of Hunter 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Biden's plea deal. He's supposed to be in court at 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: nine o'clock and apparently there could be some people that 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: are sanctioned for misrepresenting to the court what they were 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: doing with Hunter Biden. Break all this down. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Well, we have massive breaking news that broke last night. 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: So this morning at nine am, Hunter Biden is scheduled 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: to appear in federal court and plead guilty to two 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: misdemeanor charges for failure to pay taxes in twenty seventeen 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: and twenty eighteen. He is also expected to avoid prosecution 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: on a separate felony gun possession charge of illegally possessing 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: a firearm as a gun user as a drug user. 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: All of that is scheduled to go down at nine 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: And it's a plea deal that is designed to be 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: a slap on the wrist so that Hunter serves no 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: jail time whatsoever, and that its real purpose, as we've discussed, 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: is to protect Joe Biden from any exposure to Hunter's influence, 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: selling and corruption. Well, last night a bombshell went off, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: which is the US District Judge in Delaware, Mary Ellen Norieika, 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: issued an order and the order is directing Hunter Biden's 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: lawyers to show up at nine am this morning and 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: explain why they shouldn't be sanctioned for lying to the court. 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: And let me explain what happened here, because this is 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: a big damn deal and to be honest, I've never 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: seen anything remotely like it. So the plea hearing this morning, 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: Hunter is expected to come in and plead not guilty. 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: The judge could approve the plea deal today, say okay, 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: plea deal's done. Slap on the wrist, all done, it 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: could be over today. Well, the House of Representatives is 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: dismayed by that. They've seen the hearings on all of 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: the corruption, the hearing the evidence that we've discussed at 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: length on this podcast. And so the House of Representatives 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: filed an amicus brief with the court, laying out the 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: evidence against Hunter and Joe and the corruption and really 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: making the case that a slap on the wrist is 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: not in the interest of justice. That's pretty unusual. It's 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: not often that a criminal defendant has the House of 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Representatives of the United States Congress file a brief opposing 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: their sweet hard deal. What happened next is extraordinary. Apparently, 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's lawyers picked up the phone and called the 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Clerk's office of the Court and pretended to be the 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: lawyers for the House of Representatives. And Hunter Biden's lawyers 54 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: apparently said, hey, we're the lawyers for the House Representatives. 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: We filed this amicus brief with attachments. Could you withdraw 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: that please? We didn't mean to file that, and the 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: clerk's office apparently did so said okay, if you want 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: to withdraw that filing, we will. Well, it turns out 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: that at least what the court believes right now as 60 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: they were lying. And I want to read because late 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: last night the court issued a special order and it's 62 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: a short order. I'm going to read the order. It's 63 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: oral order. The Court is in receipt of the party's 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: letters regarding the motion for leave to file an amicus brief. 65 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: As an initial matter, defendant has not indicated what specific 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: information should be sealed, made any showing as required under 67 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: a particular case. In fact, defendant has not filed a 68 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: formal request with the court to seal anything. The Court 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: will temporarily place the documentuer seal intil the close of 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: business on July twenty sixth, to afford defendant the opportunity 71 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: to try to make the requisite showing. Should the defendant 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: fail to make that showing, the document will be unsealed 73 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: in its entirety. In addition, the Court has reviewed the 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: allegations in mister Katilla's letter that's the lawyer for the 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: House made to the Clerk's office regarding the amicus materials. 76 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Mister Katilla asserts that an individual associated with the firm 77 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: representing defendant Hunter Biden called the Clerk's office pretending to 78 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: be associated with mister Katillia and requesting the amicus materials 79 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: be removed from the docket, which the clerk's office did. 80 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: The response from defendant's counsel on this issue was that quote, 81 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: as far as he was aware. The managing attorney from 82 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Latham called the clerk's office to note that personal tax 83 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: information of the defendant had been filed in a non 84 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: redacted manner and to inquire regarding having the information sealed, 85 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: and that quote. The clerk took the filing down on 86 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: their own accord. Defendant's counsel also added that he hoped 87 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: mister Katila had quote an affidavit from the clerk in 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: support of his version of the events. The Court has 89 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: discussed the matter with relevant individuals in the clerk's office 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: that has been informed that the caller, Miss Jessica Bengals, 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: represented that she worked with mister Catilla, in other words, 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: the house's lawyer, and requested the amicus materials be taken 93 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: down because they contained sensitive grand jury, taxpayer and so 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: security information. Here's the critical language from the court's order 95 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: last night. It appears that the caller misrepresented her identity 96 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: and who she worked for in an attempt to improperly 97 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: convince the Clerk's office to remove the amicus material from 98 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 2: the docket. Therefore, it is hereby ordered that honor before 99 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: nine pm today on July twenty fifth, counsel for the 100 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: defendant shall show cause as to why sanctions should not 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: be considered for misrepresentations to the court. Now, Ben I 102 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: got to say, I've practiced law a lot of years, 103 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: just just about thirty nearly thirty years now. I don't 104 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: know another instance where a lawyer for one party calls 105 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: the court and pretends to be a lawyer for the 106 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: other party. Like that just doesn't happen. That's the kind 107 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: of thing. 108 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: Do you get disbarred for that? Minimum? And that I mean, 109 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: you ruin your career right if you do that, because 110 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: you're literally calling up and lying about what team you're 111 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: on in a court case. I would assume that's instant 112 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: and you're disbarred. You're never gonna practice law again. And 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: is there even the possibility of, like you get charge 114 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: of the crime for that potentially. 115 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: Look, a lawyer is an officer of the court. You 116 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: have an obligation of candor to the court. You have 117 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: an obligation of truthfulness to the court. A lawyer lies 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: to a judge at his or her peril. Now I 119 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: don't know what happened, and we're gonna have a hearing 120 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: at nine am this morning. I expect there's gonna be 121 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: some real fireworks. But the DOJ and Hunter Biden's lawyers 122 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: were hoping this would be a quiet, little plea hearing 123 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: where we got a plea agreement. Okay, all is good, 124 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: slapping the wrist, it's all over. Instead the judges saying, 125 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: tell me why I should not sanction Hunter Biden's lawyer 126 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: for lying to me and pretending to be the lawyer 127 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: for the House of Representatives. That's a big damn deal, 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: and this single handedly could scuttle the plea deal. 129 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the just a normal case. Okay, 130 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: take hunter Byen out of it. Yeah, take take the 131 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: fact this is a sweetheart deal and it you can. Now, 132 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I think it's very clear you would agree center. This 133 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: judge knows that this is a sweetheart deal. Would you 134 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: agree with that? At this point, there's been too much 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: information out there. There's been too much. It's been exposed 136 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: in the House. 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: Look, it's too early to say. Okay, we'll see what happens. 138 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: At the hearing today, we'll see what the judge says. 139 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: If I were a judge, I would not take this 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: plea deal. A judge doesn't have to take the plea deal. 141 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: A judge can can press back. It is clear the 142 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Biden DOJ wants the plea deal taken because the plea 143 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: deal is designed to number one, make Hunter Biden the 144 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: fall guy, but do it in the way that there's 145 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: zero jail times, the most serious charges have gone away 146 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: and that's just a little slap on the wrist. But 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: number two, most critically, this is designed to protect Joe Biden. 148 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: If this plea deal gets thrown out. 149 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, what happens next? That was the question I was 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: going to ask you, is if he throws out and 151 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: says no, I don't accept this, then what happens next 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: in this case? Does that mean that all the other 153 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: things that they didn't have to deal with now all 154 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden become a reality in. 155 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: This No, what would happen if the plea deal is 156 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: thrown out? So Hunter can withdraw his guilty plea because 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: the guilty plea is based on a plea deal, and 158 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: the judge could say, try your case. You have brought 159 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: charges against Hunter Biden. We want to see you try 160 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: your case, and we're going to impanel a jury and 161 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: have a trial. But then at the end of it, 162 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: the judge can say, I'm going to sentence the defendant 163 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: if he's found guilty that I'm not going to take 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: the plea deal that I've determined this plea deal is 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: not in the interest of justice. If the judge determines 166 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden's lawyers have lied to the Court of misrepresented, 167 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: and this order says the judge thinks they have. Now 168 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: the judge may be mistaken. But what the order says 169 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: is she went and asked the clerk's office, Hey, what 170 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: did the lawyer who called you say? And according to 171 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: the order she entered, that's what made her enter the 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: order to show cause why Hunter Biden's lawyer should not 173 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: be sanctioned. I have, in nearly thirty years of practicing law, 174 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: never seen an order like this. And I got to say, 175 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: if you're Hunter Biden's lawyers right now, you are freaking out. 176 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: And if you're the Biden DOJ desperately wanting to protect 177 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: the big guy, you're freaking out. This is a major development. 178 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Is it just one lawyer that would be sanctioned the 179 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: one that made the phone call. Or is there a 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: good chance that all the lawyers on the case that 181 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: knew that this happened. Are they going to be held 182 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: accountable for this basically in essence, because it would be 183 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: a strategy that they would have done as a legal team. 184 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: It depends on what the facts demonstrate. The lawyer who's 185 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: most directly on the hook is the lawyer who is 186 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: accused of lye to the court. And each lawyer is 187 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: an officer of the court, and you have an ethical 188 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: obligation to the court, and so that lawyer is the 189 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: one most directly at risk. But if it turns out 190 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: other lawyers on Hunter Biden's defense team knew about it, 191 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: directed her to do this, We're part of the decision 192 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: to do this, they could all be sanctioned. It depends 193 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: on what the facts are. I don't know what the 194 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: facts are. I'm just reading an order that is a 195 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: holy crap order. 196 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about our friends of Patriot 197 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Mobile real quick. If you are sick and tired of 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: giving your money to woke companies that are fighting against 199 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: your values, there is now an option that you've never 200 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: had before when it comes to your cell phone. For years, 201 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: big mobile companies have actually been dumping millions and millions 202 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: of dollars into leftist causes, and you had to deal 203 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: with that because there wasn't another option. Now there is 204 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile, America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. Now they 205 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: offer you dependable nationwide coverage on all three major networks, 206 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: so you do not have to worry about coverage issues. 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: You also get the best possible service within your area. 208 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: They make sure of that, and you're getting rid of 209 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: the woke propaganda push by those big mobile companies. When 210 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: you switch to Patriot, not only are you going to 211 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: get a great buy, you're gonna get to many times 212 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: save money over what you're paying right now. But you're 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: supporting free speech and religious freedom. You're supporting the sanctity 214 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: of life, the Second Amendment, our military, our veterans, our 215 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: first responders. Every time you pay your bill, they take 216 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: a portion of your bill every month and no extra 217 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: charge to you and give it back to these causes. 218 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: So if you're paying a cell phone bill, whether it's 219 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: for you, your family, a business, a small business, call 220 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile and make the switch. The number eight seven 221 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: eight Patriot. That's eight seven eight Patriot or online at 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: patriotmobile dot com, slash ferguson Patriot mobile dot com, slash Verdict. Senator, 223 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the narrative that's also 224 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: changing at the White House. I've not actually heard anyone 225 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: talking about this. You and I talked about this earlier, 226 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: and this was a very big change in the narrative 227 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: at the White House. So the White House has said 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: for a long time, over and over and over again. 229 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: Joe Biden said, over and over and over again, I've 230 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: never talked to my son or any of the family 231 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: members of Biden family members about any of these business dealings. 232 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: He said that he said during the campaign. Now the 233 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: White House has changed that narrative. Listen carefully, you'll probably 234 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: pick it up, and if not, we'll play it a 235 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: second time for you. 236 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: Chairman James Comerce today says that the oversight the Committee 237 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: excuse me, has evidence that the President in the past 238 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: communicated directly with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter 239 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: Biden many times. Careers of the White House and the 240 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: President still stand behind his comment that he's never been 241 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: involved and has never even spoken to his son about his. 242 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: So I've been asked this question a million times. The 243 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same. 244 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: The president was never in business with his son. I 245 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: just don't have anything. 246 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: Else to add. 247 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Senator, I know you heard it. The narrative's now changed. 248 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: It used to be I never talked about business with 249 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: my family. Now it is quote the president was never 250 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: in business with his son, quote unquote. 251 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: So Ben, this is a big deal. You are right 252 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden has said over and over and over again, 253 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: he never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. He 254 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. The White 255 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: House has said Joe Biden never talked with Hudder Biden 256 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: about his business. That was their line. They said it repeatedly. 257 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. It is now more and more clear 258 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden talked with Hunter Biden and with Hunter 259 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: Biden's business associates about his businesses a lot. So for example, 260 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: Miranda Devine, who's done just fantastic reporting on this entire 261 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: scandal for The New York Post, she wrote two days 262 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: ago a story that the headline is Hunter Biden put 263 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: then VP Dad Joe on the phone with business associates 264 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: at least two dozen times. Ex partner Devin Archer to testify, 265 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: and Archer, who was Hunter Biden's former best friend, he 266 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: was his business partner. They were both on the board 267 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: of Barisma together. Apparently Devon Archer is going to testify 268 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: according to the reporting the New York Post, that Hunter 269 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: Biden would dialu his father, then Vice president, Joe Biden 270 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: on speakerphone in the meetings with his overseas business partners. 271 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: According to testimony expected before Congress this week from Devon Archer, 272 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Here's what James Comer said. We are looking forward very 273 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: much to hearing from Devon Archer about all the times 274 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: he has witnessed Joe Biden meeting with Hunter Biden's overseas 275 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: business partners when he was vice president, including on speakerphone. 276 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: One such meeting was in Dubai late in the evening 277 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: of Friday, December fourth, twenty fifteen, after a board meeting 278 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: of the Ukrainian energy company Barisma, which was paying Hunter 279 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: eighty three thousand dollars a month as director. Archer, who 280 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: was also director, is expected to testify that after dinner 281 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: with Barisa board at the Bergall Arab hotel. He and 282 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: Hunter traveled six miles north to the Forest Seasons Resort 283 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Dubai at Juriah Beach to have drinks with Hunter's friends. 284 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: While they were sitting outside at the bar, Vadim Puzzharski, 285 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: a senior Borisma executive, phone to ask where they were 286 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: because Borisma's owner Mikoleos Lootchevsky, who we talked about a 287 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: lot on Monday's Pod, needed to speak to Hunter urgently. 288 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: Soon afterwards, the two Ukrainians joined Hunter and Archer at 289 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the Four Seasons bar, and Posarski asked, Hunter, can you 290 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: ring your dad? At the time, it was early afternoon 291 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: Friday in Washington, DC. Hunter then called his father, put 292 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: him on speaker, place the phone on the table, and 293 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: introduced the Ukrainians to Joe Biden by names as Nikolai 294 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: and Vadam. He also said words to the effect that 295 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: the Barisma bigwigs need our support. Joe Biden greeted the Ukrainians, 296 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: but spoke only in vague pleasantries. Archer is expected to testify. 297 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: They will note in context that three days after the 298 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: speakerphone call, Joe Biden was due to fly to Kiev 299 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: to address the Ukrainian Parliament. Ten weeks before the call, 300 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 2: on September twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, the US ambassador had 301 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: given a speech about corruption in Ukraine in which he 302 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: targeted Lotchevsky by name. But by then the Ukrainian prosecutor general, 303 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: that's Victor Chokin, who we talked about again at length 304 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: on Monday's podcast that if you didn't listen to Monday's podcast, 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: go back and listen to it. It's incredibly important what 306 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: the FD ten twenty three said. But Ukrainian Prosecutor General 307 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: Victor Schokin was investigating Barisma for corruption, and a month 308 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: later Chokin was fired right after Joe Biden threatened to 309 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: withhold one billion dollars in usaid to Ukraine. So here's 310 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: the problem, Ben, Joe Biden has said repeatedly, I didn't 311 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: talk to Hunter about his business. I didn't talk to 312 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Hunter about his business. The White House has said that, 313 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: And now you've got Hunter's business partners saying, oh yeah, 314 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: Joe Biden talked to our business partners all the time. 315 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: That's a huge problem. And so I want you to 316 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: play two things. Number one, I want us to listen 317 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: to what the old White House message was which is 318 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: I didn't talk to Hunter's business partners. Take a listen, it's. 319 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: Your vice president. 320 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: How many times have you ever spoken to your son 321 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: about his overseas business dealings. 322 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas pretty. 323 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Sooners, now, that was in twenty nineteen, Senator, that was 324 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: in Des Moines, Iowa, when he was running for president. 325 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: And he's saying, I've never I never talked about it ever. 326 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: Now they're saying, okay, Mane, we did, but we were 327 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: never officially in business together. 328 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: So he said there flat out on the campaign trail 329 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: for president. This is not a long time ago. This 330 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: is while he's running for president. He says, I have 331 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: never spoken to my son about his overseas business deals. Now, 332 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: his problem is, Devin Archers supposed to say that he's 333 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: spoken at least two dozen times. So I want you 334 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: to play again. 335 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me let me also add this real quick, 336 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: because this is where I just I have to do 337 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: this because it makes me laugh. It's not just that 338 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: first time I forgot about this and I just pulled it. 339 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: We put together a montage of Biden answering this question 340 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: over and over again, which the White House has just done, done, 341 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: now good by their new admission. Here's the entire montage, 342 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: starting back in twenty nineteen. 343 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: And how many times have you ever spoken to your 344 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: son about his overseas business dealings. 345 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas be as sooners. 346 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: I have never discussed with my son, or my brother 347 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 5: or anyone else and being having to do with their businesses, period. 348 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: And what I will do is the same thing we 349 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: did in our administration. It'll be an absolute wall between 350 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: personal and private and the government. 351 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Do you stand by your statement that you did not 352 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: discuss any of your son's overseas business des large? 353 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: Stand by that student. 354 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Do you think it was wrong for him to take 355 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: that position knowing that it was really because that company 356 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: wanted access to you. Well, that's not true. 357 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 5: You're saying things you do not know what you're talking about. 358 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 5: No one said that. 359 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: Who said that? 360 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of time. Just said it, senator, 361 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: and now you're undoing it at the White House from 362 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: the podium. 363 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: So his answer is, I've never talked to Hunter. I've 364 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: never talked to Hunter. I've never talked to his business associates. 365 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: And I want you to play again yesterday's answer because 366 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: the the beautiful thing is Kareem John Pierre says, I'm 367 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: going to give you the exact same answer I've given before, 368 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: and then she says a totally different answer. So play 369 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: that once again, because this is a massive shift, because 370 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: the White House realizes, oh crap, Joe Biden's been caught 371 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: in a massive lie that implicates him in foreign corruption. 372 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: So listen to kareein. John Pierre's trying to be very 373 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: clever and shift their answer. 374 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: Chairman James Comer today says at the Oversight Committee, because 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: has evidence that the President in the past communicated directly 376 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter Biden many 377 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: times curios of the White House, and the President still 378 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: stand behind his comment that he's never been involved and 379 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: has never even spoken to his son about his. 380 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 4: So I've been asked this question a million times. The 381 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same. 382 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: The President was never in business with his son. I 383 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: just don't have anything else to. 384 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: Add there it is, So the ANSWER's not going to change. 385 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: So if the ANSWER's not going to change, you would 386 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: expect the President's never spoken to his son about his 387 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: business deals. The President's never spoken to his business associates 388 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: about his business deals. But she doesn't say that. She 389 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: says the president was never in business with his sons. 390 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: Now let me show you it gets even worse. There's 391 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: a subsequent article came out in The Federalist that is 392 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: entitled Joe Biden allegedly interacted with sons clients more than 393 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: two hundred times. So you've got the story from the 394 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 2: New York Post from Miranda to that Biden spoke with 395 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: foreign businessmen and potential investors for Hunter at least twenty 396 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: four times. But the Federalist reports that there are more 397 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: than one hundred and eighty other episodes where the president 398 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: interacted with his son's business partners. So, for example, then 399 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: President Joe Biden reportedly met with Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstan 400 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: business partners at Cafe Milatta, which is a really shishi 401 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: restaurant in Washington, d C. Vadim Pushharski, an executive at Barisma, 402 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: thanked Hunter in writing for the introduction to his father. 403 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: So here's an email that Pojarski wrote, quote, Dear Hunter, 404 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: thank you for inviting me to DC and giving me 405 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together. Now, 406 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: by the way, Joe Biden says, no, never talk to 407 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: my son about business. Post Narski, the Ukrainian Barisa official, says, hey, 408 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: thanks for introducing me to your dad. Give me the 409 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to meet your father. I mean it is stunning. 410 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: Visitor's logs show that Hunter Biden's business associates visited the 411 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: White House. How many times do you think Hunter Biden's 412 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: business associates visited the White House while Joe Biden was 413 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: Vice President? 414 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: If you count them all up there, it's countless. I mean, 415 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: it's not one or two times, and that many of 416 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: the people got to go like a dozen or more 417 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: times while he was the vice president. 418 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: So according to Fox News, it's at least eighty times. 419 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: There you go. 420 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's diary shows more than one hundred events at 421 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: the Vice President's resident while Joe Biden was living at 422 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: the Naval Observatory. Photographs from the same day as one 423 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: meeting on the calendar November nineteenth, twenty fifteen, features two 424 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Mexican billionaires, Carlos Slim and Miguel Alaman Velasco and Hunter 425 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: spent years leveraging the White House to pursue business deals 426 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: with Slim this pattern. Listen. At this point, it is 427 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: becoming almost impossible to maintain that Hunter Biden was doing 428 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: anything other than selling not only access to Daddy, but 429 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: favors from Daddy for millions of dollars. And you want 430 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: proof of that. Here's a simple question. Why did the 431 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: White House change their story? Kareem John Pierre said, I'm 432 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: gonna give you the exact same answer I've given before, and 433 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: then she gave a totally different answer. She'd said, here's 434 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: the exact same answer. Joe Biden's never spoken to Hunter 435 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: about his business dealings, never spoken to his business associates. 436 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 2: That would be the same answer. She didn't do that, 437 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: she says, Oh, Joe Biden's never been in business with 438 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: his son. They realize they're in hot water. They are 439 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: backtracking mightily. And you know what, I'm gonna make a prediction. 440 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: I love it when you do this, by the way, 441 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: because it's always good. 442 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: Not a single corporate media outlet will report on this 443 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: massive shift. ABC is not going to report on it, 444 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: CBS is not going to report on it, NBC is 445 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: not going to report on it. CNN's not going to 446 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: report on it. MSNBC is not going to report on it. 447 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: The Washington Post is not going to report on it. 448 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: The New York Times is not going to report on it. 449 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: They are all covering up for Joe Biden, and I 450 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong. You know what if if by ten 451 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: thirty today one of them is so shame they say, 452 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: holy crap, I'm actually going to be a reporter and 453 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: report on the fact, just like in Watergate, when when 454 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: the story starts changing, that's news. Any real journalist will 455 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: report on that. We'll see if anybody does today. 456 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you share this podcast as always on 457 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: this story, especially because I think we are are the 458 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: only ones at this point center that A are willing 459 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I'm sure others noticed it, but 460 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: it's been complete crickets since this massive you know, narrative 461 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: from the White House on Joe Biden's involvement in essence 462 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: saying yes, he was involved with his son's business stealings, 463 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: but they were quote never business partners. This, on top 464 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: of what's happening in court today, is going to be 465 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: very interesting. Let me tell you real quick about our 466 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: friends of Augusta Precious Metals If you are doing everything 467 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: you can to save for retirement, or maybe you're even 468 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: in retirement and your number one goal is to protect 469 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: your assets, then you need to check out Augusta Precious Metals. 470 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Augusta Precious Metals has one goal in mind that is 471 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: to protect your heart earned money, your hard earned dollars 472 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: and help you with a gold IRA. Now I'm excited 473 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: to tell you about a company that I trust. It 474 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: is Augusta because they will even tell you if a 475 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: gold I are isn't your answer. We all know that 476 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: is so important close to retirement or if you're in retirement, 477 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: to not be losing money. Why because there's no time 478 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: to make up those losses. So if you've never taken 479 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: a look at gold, take a look at their free 480 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: guide and you'll also get a one on one web 481 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: conference with Augusta Precious Medals. Go online to Augusta Precious 482 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: Medals dot com or you can call them and get 483 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: that free guide eight seven seven for gold IRA. That's 484 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: eight seven seven the number four goldra or Augusta Precious 485 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Medals dot Com. Use a promo code verdict. They'll even 486 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: pay your fees for up to ten years. That's Augusta 487 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: Precious Medals dot Com Center. Lastly, there's also another big 488 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: issue hasn't gotten a lot of press, and it should. 489 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: It's a big win for not only the people in Texas, 490 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: but a big win when it comes the issue of 491 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: national security. And it's something that you let on with 492 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: a strategic oil reserves, the petroleum reserves that have been 493 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: rated by this administration to artificially drop the price of 494 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: gas before the midterm elections, and they don't seem to 495 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: be wanting to put oil back in our strategical reserves 496 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: as well. That is a national security issue. But you 497 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: also did some other things tell us about this victory. 498 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. The strategic petroleum Reserve was established 499 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: to protect our national security and our energy security, that 500 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: if we get in a time of warfare, if we 501 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: get at a time of crisis, that we have oil 502 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: we could rely on that we won't have our economy 503 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: grind to a halt. And it's there for emergencies. It's 504 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: not there to be a slush fund for Democrat presidents 505 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: to try to cover their rear end an election. Well, 506 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Joe Biden last year sold one hundred and eighty million 507 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves. And the 508 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: reason is he was trying to drive down gasoline prices 509 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: right before the election. Not because he wants prices low, 510 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: mind you, Biden wants prices higher and higher and higher. 511 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: He just wants them to dip right before an election, 512 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: so he thinks the voters won't notice that. Now, the 513 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: result of those sales is it pushed the levels in 514 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to the lowest they've ever been 515 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: in forty years. And last July, as part of selling 516 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: thirty nine million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the 517 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: Biden administration sold one million barrels to unipec America, which 518 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: is a subsidiary of China's Sinopek. And I will point 519 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: out also that Hudter Biden, our friend who knows how 520 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: to monetize Daddy, has done business with the Chinese entities 521 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: that are profiting off of Daddy's sales of oil to 522 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It is corrupt. It's also stupid 523 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: that we would take our oil there to keep our 524 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: economy our national security safe and sell it to China, 525 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: our enemy. So I introduced an amendment to ban the 526 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: United States government to ban the Biden administration from selling 527 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: oil from the Strategic Petrol In Reserve to China, to Russia, 528 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: to Iran, or to North Korea. Basic principle, let's not 529 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: sell our oil that's here to keep us safe to 530 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: our enemies that are not there. 531 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: To keep us safe. 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: We forced to vote in the Senate last week. This 533 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: was an amendment that was authored by me and Joe Manchin, 534 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: so it was bipartisan. And actually, you know what the 535 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: lineup was on the amendment. What do you think there were? 536 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: There were two other senators that were the lead sponsors. 537 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: Take a guess. Oh gosh, I'm trying to think here 538 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: it would be you said Joe Manchin. I'm gonna laugh. 539 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Can I throw out a curveball? Yeah? 540 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, No, but that'd be a good guess. Mitt 541 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: voted for it. 542 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I was trying to think, you're stump 543 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: at me here. I was like, all right, I gotta 544 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: go with a really good name here. 545 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll give you even better than that. So 546 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: number one we had Jony Ernst, which is not shocking. 547 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: Jony's a good friend. We do a lot together and 548 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: John Fetterman. So this was cruise mansion, Ernst Fetterman. 549 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: That's interesting. That's an interesting dinner right there. Y'all should 550 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: do that. 551 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: So we had a vote on it. Do you know 552 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: what the vote was? 553 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: What was it? 554 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: Eighty five to fourteen. So we didn't just win, we 555 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: won by a massive margin, eighty five to fourteen. And 556 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: so that's now part of the National Defense Authorization Act. 557 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: When this bill passes into law, which I believe it's 558 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: going to the Biden administration, will no longer be able 559 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: to sell oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China, 560 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: or to Russia, or to North Korea or to Iran. Now, 561 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: fourteen people voted no. The lead Democrat who opposed me 562 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: is Chris Murphy, very very liberal senator from Connecticut. 563 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: And what's the reason for not just him, but the 564 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: other fourteen to oppose this? 565 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, let me give you their own reasoning. So in 566 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: the last Congress, I went to the Senate floor and 567 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: I tried to pass this by unanimous consent. And one 568 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: of the ways you get things passed in the Senate 569 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: is you can pass it by unanimous consent, where you 570 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: stand up and if nobody objects it passes, and a 571 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: lot of stuff gets pass that way. So I went 572 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: to the Senate floor. I said, look, this is basic 573 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: common sense. No one should object. Let's pass this. Chris 574 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: Murphy from Connecticut came and objected. And one of the 575 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: things I argued is I said, look, there's a war 576 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: waging in Ukraine right now. We should not be selling 577 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: oil to our enemies. If anything, we should be selling 578 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: to our friends and not enriching our enemies. Chris Murphy 579 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: countered with Democrat legislation that would prohibit all sales of 580 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: oil and gas, not just from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, 581 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: but from any private entity in the United States to 582 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: any foreign nation. And the two of us had a 583 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: debate on the Senate floor where I said, wait a second, 584 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: I'm standing up saying America should not send oil to 585 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: our enemies. 586 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 587 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: The Democrats are countering with we shouldn't sell oil to 588 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: our friends. We should tell our friends, our allies, no, 589 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: you can't have any of our oil, and we should 590 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: our allies. We should force Europe. Sorry, you got to 591 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: buy from Russia because the idiot Democrats in Washington don't 592 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: want to sell you Americant oil. So go put money 593 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: in Putin's coffers. It was truly insane, and yet Chris 594 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: Murphy doubled down. But I got to say, when we 595 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: came to a vote, eighty five fourteen is a pretty 596 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: good margin. 597 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big margin. And it's also really an issue, 598 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: as you just described, of national security. Yes, and this 599 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: when people that don't understand a national security aspect of this. 600 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: If we sell our oil to our adversaries and we 601 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: get well on our stategical reserves, that's a double whammy 602 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: from us from a national security standpoint. 603 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. And China is in the middle 604 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: of a massing, enormous reservoir of oil precisely because they 605 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: want to be in a strong national security position. So 606 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: when the Biden administration is selling oil to China, they 607 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: are weakening America and helping China. Which is why the 608 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Senate overwhelmingly says stop doing that. And I got to 609 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: say it says a lot that Senate Democrats voted to 610 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: say Joe Biden stopped doing that. 611 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that shouldn't be very controversial at all. A 612 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: big win on this one. Congratulations on the leadership also 613 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: at being bipartisan and It's also amazing that fourteen people 614 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: would vote against this, but welcome to these strange times 615 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Senator. One last thing, I just 616 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: want to tell everybody about this the first time we've 617 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: ever done this on Verdict, and I want to invite 618 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: Verdict listeners to join me in the Holy Land Israel. 619 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: We have put together a trip and you know that 620 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Israel is the cradle of Judaism, Christianity and many of 621 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: the principles that we hold DearS Americans. We are gonna 622 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: go see some of the most incredible sights. We're talking 623 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: about the Armageddon Battlefield, Jericho, Jerusalem, Bethlehem. We're gonna get 624 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: to sail on the Sea of Galilee and float on 625 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: the Dead Sea. You're gonna be walking in the footsteps 626 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: of biblical figures, just like King David and Jesus Christ, 627 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be doing it together with other listeners 628 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: from around the country that listen to Verdict. I'm gonna 629 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: meet up with you in Jerusalem and you're gonna get 630 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: to experience that city and all these others, including things 631 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: like the Western Wall, the Temple mount It's gonna be 632 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: an incredible trip. So you need to go right now 633 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: to Christian Expedition dot com slash ben. That's Christian Expedition 634 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: dot com slash ben. We're gonna do this trip. You've 635 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: got plenty of time to plan it. May the sixth 636 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: through the fifteenth of twenty twenty four. People are already 637 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: signing up right now. It's gonna book out fast, so 638 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: check it out Christianexpedition dot com slash ben. You can 639 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: also call them and you get all the information. Eight 640 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: seven seven two three four three zero zero two. That's 641 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: eight seven seven two three four three zero zero two 642 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: Christianexpedition dot com slash ben. Join me and other vertical 643 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: listeners as we take an amazing trip to the Holy Land, Israel. 644 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Christian Expedition dot com slash ben. I want you to 645 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: be a part of it. Senator, it's always a pleasure 646 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: to chat with you. We'll see everybody back here and 647 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: see what that judge does on Friday morning. Don't forget 648 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: subscribe to the show. Hit that follow button or auto 649 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: download wherever you're listening. Please share this podcast with others. 650 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: We're covering news that no one else is talking about, 651 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: so share it wherever you are on social media and 652 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: we'll see you back here on Friday morning.