WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2023 Week 16 NFL MegaPod Betting Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning, December twenty, first Week sixteen in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. It's the Beating the Book podcast Megapod Week sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>My God, three weeks left in the NFL season. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Gil Alexander. We welcome in the crew our stables on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, back to his mom's cork Attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves when I say that, Todd wish them everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing Dad? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Gil? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great? A lot of requests for Christmas songs

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<v Speaker 1>from you to day? Can we expect some Christmas songs

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<v Speaker 1>on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really like being prompted to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I understand You're an organic, natural kind of guy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Not from his mom's cork attic, but in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a big wall that has vs and logos all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the star of not only this podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the bear Bets podcast with Chris Filika on Fox.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Hills Hadden It Gilly boys, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Excited is always It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I joked that last week I might have had the

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<v Speaker 3>worst pick in megapot history because I had under Jaggs Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was thirty one and a half and

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<v Speaker 3>both teams almost got the over by themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I outdid myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the under that Raiders Chargers game last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and that one did not get home.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's see what I got hooked up for today.

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<v Speaker 1>It just missed, Will, It just missed? Was the final

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<v Speaker 1>sixty sixty two to twenty one? Was the final thing game?

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty three one, sixty three to twenty one? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Will, there's always a third week to continue

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<v Speaker 1>that streak.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's better to lose like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just get crushed. Yeah. And our rotating guests

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<v Speaker 1>this week, who reminded me that this is his first

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<v Speaker 1>non Week eighteen appearance on the podcast, after which I

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<v Speaker 1>spiraled into a drugs depression at alcohol because I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was totally rude from Yahoo Sports. It's Frank Schwab.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our old buddy. Hey, you know, Frank, It was fine.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just, you know, it's nice to be picking in

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<v Speaker 5>a week that games actually matter, matters, teams actually care.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're giving me the tryout, you know, seeing if I

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<v Speaker 5>can handle Week eighteen before bumping me up to a

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<v Speaker 5>week that mattered, But uh as always Gil glad to

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<v Speaker 5>be on. You've done great work for years that I

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<v Speaker 5>always always.

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<v Speaker 6>Enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's always a little strange being a guest on

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<v Speaker 5>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I appreciate it. Who was it this week? Pritch?

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<v Speaker 1>Pritch was on last week Mike Pritchard, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, I was a little nervous with my picks,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's really competitive on the podcast, and who is

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Chernoff told me also, like all the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Chernoff does at Right Angle, he said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know earlier this year, he's like, I get more

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<v Speaker 1>nervous for my Mega bod picks than anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's so true. It's but this is my third time.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's my third time.

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<v Speaker 5>Both the first two times, I've never sweated games more

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<v Speaker 5>on a Sunday and like I don't want to go,

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't want to like go o with three

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<v Speaker 5>and the teaser loses and everything else loses, and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Gill's gonna lose my number.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no no. Speaking of records, Todd

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<v Speaker 1>wishedev is the court stenographer. He has the updates. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd say it's slow and loud. Did we lose? Wow? Okay? First,

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<v Speaker 1>could you could you be quicker? Could you be quicker

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<v Speaker 1>on the draw? Maybe I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just checking out Central Connecticut, Florida. Okay, So Gilly Iceman

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<v Speaker 2>keeps his lead, it looks like we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>catch it this year, folks. He went two and one

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<v Speaker 2>with a nice lines and falcons Kansas City falcons.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>What can you say about the falcons? That was just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>They they caught, he goes they cost fifteen twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen and one. Is that what you're about to say?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say that the falcons cost

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<v Speaker 1>me as a massive week. Yeah, go ahead, Todd, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>And one for which is, you know, pretty as good

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<v Speaker 2>as you're going to get, you know, twenty nine to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen one. That's pretty darn good. Willie went two and

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<v Speaker 2>one as well with his under Raiders barely missing by

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<v Speaker 2>a scooch. As we were just talking about Lions winning

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<v Speaker 2>easily and Bill's winning easily, I went one to one

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<v Speaker 2>and one with a falcons as well. I follow Gilly

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<v Speaker 2>and the falcons nonsense. So I lost that hit the

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<v Speaker 2>colts and then the Browns. I got a miracle push

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<v Speaker 2>when the Browns came from you know, nowhere'sville to win

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<v Speaker 2>that game. So now I am twenty two twenty and three,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guest spot went one and two. Mike Pritchard

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<v Speaker 2>went one and two with the Broncos, Bucks and Giants,

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<v Speaker 2>So the guest spot moved to twenty four eighteen and three.

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<v Speaker 2>In the teaser world, the category that really makes makes

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<v Speaker 2>a difference. Gilly is nine and six, Willie is ten

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<v Speaker 2>and five, Todd is eleven and four. That's the best

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<v Speaker 2>there is and the guest is ten and five. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, while our picks have been you know, amazing

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<v Speaker 2>from at least from Gil our teasers, everybody's been winning

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<v Speaker 2>on teasers very nicely this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Pritch do last week?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, Todd? What did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Pritch went one and two?

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<v Speaker 1>Two? Can you can you Todd? Can you turn off

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<v Speaker 1>your Todd? Can you turn off your video? Because your

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<v Speaker 1>audio is un jacked? So let's get this, because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sound good to people. You can turn off

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<v Speaker 1>your video?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, maybe maybe because I had my phone sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on there? Is it better now?

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<v Speaker 1>It is not? Can you turn off your video so better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. Let's just turn. How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the way? There we go? Okay, battling. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>improve the audio for everybody. Thank you, Todd, wish now

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<v Speaker 1>for your do you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We can hear you now you sound great? Okay, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that improves the audio because no one wants we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it all Jacked, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I didn't know what it was, Jack, No.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you didn't. Okay, so let us uh, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything in game, Todd from last week

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to talk about real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>I've been having a lot of success with these uh

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<v Speaker 2>these I mean running back these running back props. When

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<v Speaker 2>when these guys are gad people and the game is

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<v Speaker 2>in a scenario where the guy's going to get more carries,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very often difficult for them to keep it below.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one last week I didn't even get it

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<v Speaker 2>off because it's spun on me. But Walker for the

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks on Monday night, I believe had fifty yards and

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<v Speaker 2>they were putting it up at seventy three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half early in the second half, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just too low because I think he was averaging

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<v Speaker 2>also like five yards of carry. There's been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these, like I had Kyraen Williams a couple times

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<v Speaker 2>in a row with the five yards and carry nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>I got him again this week. They boosted him a

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<v Speaker 2>little higher. This time it was like he had seventy

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<v Speaker 2>yards rushing and it was over one twenty two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. He went flying over that as well. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been working pretty good. Also, Cole Comet seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be thrown. They throw him the ball constantly and he's

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<v Speaker 2>always at over three and a half catches. Sooner or later,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're going to boost him up. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they start throwing him the ball beginning him in game

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<v Speaker 2>a lot too. As far as a just regular end game.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really good week this week. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think if there was any anything that really stood

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<v Speaker 2>out as very interesting. Nothing that I can, but it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, that's fine. Let us get to Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 1>Then tonight it is the Saints at the Rams. Rams

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<v Speaker 1>are four point favorites. Bowl behind me here at the

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<v Speaker 1>d Circus Sports it's three and a half in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rams in this ball game two seven and

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<v Speaker 1>seven teams. I hesitate to call it a de facto

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<v Speaker 1>elimination game because whenever you're dealing with NFC South team,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is ever an elimination game until the very end,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Saints are very much alive, but obviously both

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<v Speaker 1>teams fighting for playoff spots. Rams have been gashing opponents,

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<v Speaker 1>and good opponents number one and number two in EPA

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<v Speaker 1>per play included in their last four weeks, the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>and the Ravens. They've scored one hundred and thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>points over the last four weeks with Kyra and williams

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<v Speaker 1>now back in the lineup. They've averaged twenty seven points

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<v Speaker 1>per game with him fourteen point twenty five without him

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<v Speaker 1>in the lineup. So the Rams are getting it done

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<v Speaker 1>on offense for sure, and the Saints play a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of man. They also feed a lot to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the defenses, excuse me, to the offenses slot receivers. So

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<v Speaker 1>hello Cooper cup tonight as well, it would seem, and

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford's been great top three and adjusted net yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, can't hear you at all? Gilly? I lost you,

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<v Speaker 2>Killy can you guys hear him? Still?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. Now I'm back. What was that? Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>work it out, We've allly, I mean it's only fifteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll work it out. Fifteen sixteen weeks? Yeah? No, what

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<v Speaker 1>was I saying? Matthew Stafford last four weeks ranks top

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<v Speaker 1>three and adjusted net yards per attempt, quarterback rating, and

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<v Speaker 1>EPA per play. So the Saints are up against it

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<v Speaker 1>here for sure. But there's a case to be made

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<v Speaker 1>for the Saints. I guess as well. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>made a bet on this. Do any of you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bet on this game tonight? Which way? Frank, anything

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<v Speaker 1>from you?

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<v Speaker 5>I like the Saints a little bit, I guess. I

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<v Speaker 5>think we saw them play really well last week. I

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<v Speaker 5>know it's the Giants, but the Giants had been playing better.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing I worry about with the Saints here

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<v Speaker 5>massive look ahead spot. Next week's game at Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 5>is basically the NFC South Championship game. Whatever that means,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, But you wonder if the Saints are

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<v Speaker 5>or just that's their focus, that's their super Bowl. But

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<v Speaker 5>the wild guard windows open for the Saints too. They

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<v Speaker 5>can't just go into this game and drop it they

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're gonna see. I think it's a field

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<v Speaker 5>goal game either way. I really I just can't quit

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<v Speaker 5>the Saints. I look at their talent. They've disappointed me

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<v Speaker 5>all season. This team should be better. I know Dennis

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<v Speaker 5>Allen is not a good coach. He's probably getting fired,

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<v Speaker 5>but I look at how they played last week, some

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<v Speaker 5>of the Rams deficiencies, and I think the Saints can

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<v Speaker 5>at least keep this close. Especially look at it was

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<v Speaker 5>four and a half earlier this week. I took a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of it. I think it's just gonna be close.

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<v Speaker 5>A Thursday night close game between two teams that are

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<v Speaker 5>really really fighting for playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Second to last Thursday Night game of the year. Todter

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<v Speaker 1>will anything on this tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with everything Frank said.

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<v Speaker 3>I was close to making it my third pick with

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<v Speaker 3>the Saints, but I'm gonna go in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't think they're gonna win the game, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, like Frank said, I could see Rams by

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<v Speaker 3>a field goal. I don't love the Saints team the Rams.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're good enough on defense, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely I bet it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not gonna be one of my three picks.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I don't want to take the Rams. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust the Rams. I mean, I think they're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good on offense. I think they're like a a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>above average team, but you can't really trust them, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't trust their defense at all. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't want to lay lay the points there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I would lean to the over, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love it either.

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<v Speaker 1>If Puka Nakua averages six catches and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four yards receiving the last three games of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>he will have broken both the receptions and receiving yards

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<v Speaker 1>records for rookies in National Football League history, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a little detail lost on most.

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<v Speaker 4>Who has the record?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it moss uh got to be miss Jefferson on reception?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah Jefferson, No, Jalen Waddle. Jalen Wattle had.

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<v Speaker 6>A oh right, yeah, he had one hundred seven or

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<v Speaker 6>something one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred and four two years ago. And in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards, who could forget Bill Grohman's nineteen sixty season

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<v Speaker 1>when he had fourteen hundred and seventy three yards or

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<v Speaker 1>saving Who could forget that.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of these guys there should be an asterisk because,

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<v Speaker 3>like Moss is a rookie should have all the records.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the most dominant rookie I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did Moss faith you know, end up on both

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<v Speaker 1>of these lists. Moss in terms of receptions wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>even close, but he.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a ton of tell you might have like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>something touchdowns as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just off man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, seventeen eighteen, Yeah, he is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, receiving yards, he is fifth all time receiving yards

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight. Randy Moss would be fifth all time.

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<v Speaker 2>They should change on should be.

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<v Speaker 1>First, so one at a time will go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I said they should change that from fifth to first.

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<v Speaker 4>They should audit record though.

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<v Speaker 3>That was not Culpeper, that was Brad Johnson. In the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the season, Randall Cunningham came.

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<v Speaker 6>Cunningham, Yeah, I was at that game at Lambo.

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<v Speaker 5>I was at that game at Lambo, and he just

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<v Speaker 5>it was like watching a rocket ship landed a middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the field, Like, Wow, the NFL is changed again.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy is absolutely gonna be one of the greats

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<v Speaker 5>of all time.

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<v Speaker 6>And she ended up being that.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a Monday night game.

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<v Speaker 5>Ra Yeah, yeah, they broke the Packers long winning streak.

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<v Speaker 5>They just blasted them as thirty seven twenty something. It

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't even that close.

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<v Speaker 4>Top Peterson played quarterback for the Packers that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Top six all time seasons for receiving rookie rookie receiving

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<v Speaker 1>yards Groman nineteen sixty again, who could Forget It? Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, Chase hold On toime seem twenty twenty, Todd

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<v Speaker 1>hold On one second, Todd twenty twenty one, Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>and second twenty twenty, Jefferson in third two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>Anklon Bolden in fourth, nineteen ninety eight, Moss in fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty fourteen, obj in sixth.

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<v Speaker 6>Were you saying, ja miss like four games at the

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<v Speaker 6>beginning of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Yeah, Nikou was nice the season Nikko

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<v Speaker 1>was in ninth. Currently, Todd, what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 2>What team was Bill Groman on in nineteen sixty?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you had to ask, huh Bill? Bill Groman was

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<v Speaker 1>on the AFL Houston team.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, I do remember him. I'm throwing it was

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<v Speaker 2>Pastorini to Groman. I totally remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was pre Pastorini too. Yeah, AFL Houston Oilers.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, how about the how about the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Titans going Houston Oilers throwbacks against the Houston Texans? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that not the most distasteful thing ever? They like left

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<v Speaker 1>Houston in a dispute and then they're like trolling them

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<v Speaker 1>with the Houston Oilers throwbacks. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That was not nice, not very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, which brings us to our best bets one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>and three. Uh Frank schwa from Yeah, Frank will start

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<v Speaker 1>with one from you your number one?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you know I get it road favorites. It

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<v Speaker 5>always looks better than it is. But I really couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>believe the Bengals are only giving two here. The Steelers

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<v Speaker 5>look like they're just cooked, like they're just let's get

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<v Speaker 5>the offseason here. They know their playoff hopes are done.

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<v Speaker 5>And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I believe

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<v Speaker 5>in Jake Browning. You watch your tape of this guy,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's legit. What more do you want from him?

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<v Speaker 5>He's throw for two or seventy five yards at each

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<v Speaker 5>of the last three games. They've won each of those games,

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<v Speaker 5>and he kind of thought in the Minnesota game, like,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, he's turning O to a pumpkin. This is

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<v Speaker 5>what we're getting out of Jake Browning. And then in

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<v Speaker 5>that fourth quarter in overtime, it was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 5>guess he's just good. I get I don't know how

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<v Speaker 5>you can go until your fifth season removed from college

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<v Speaker 5>without taking an NFL snap and be a good, viable

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<v Speaker 5>NFL quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's here. Do I like that Jamar Chase is

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<v Speaker 6>not there? No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think this Bengals team is good, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think they're kind of invigorated a little bit by the

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<v Speaker 5>challenge of getting to the playoffs without Joe Burrow. Obviously

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<v Speaker 5>they wish Joe Burrow was there. He's not, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think they're like, we're gonna rally around this guy, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna make the playoffs without Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 6>I like everything about this Bengals team.

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<v Speaker 5>I like nothing about the Steelers team, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>shocked it was less than field goal all day on

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<v Speaker 5>the Bengals. Steelers somehow come back, rise up, whatever. I

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<v Speaker 5>just haven't seen anything out of the Steelers team their

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<v Speaker 5>last three games give me any kind of indication that

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<v Speaker 5>they're alive this season.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think they're waiting for.

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<v Speaker 5>The offseason to get here and then we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>a long conversation about Mike Tomlins.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mason Rudolph is the starter for the.

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<v Speaker 6>Pittsburgh Steelers save anything that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mason rud So. So the Steelers, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the Mike Tomlin never having had a losing season

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<v Speaker 1>thing alive, must go one one in one down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mason Rudolph is their choice. Start those festivities off

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. God, what's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I don't know if Yin's remembered it,

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<v Speaker 2>but Mason Rudolph and that couldn't even beat out Doc

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<v Speaker 2>Hodges and one of them seasons there. That's how bad

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Mason Rudolph is that that he might be worse

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<v Speaker 2>than Truebisky. Uh you know, I couldn't agree more with Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers look like we're in big We're in big,

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<v Speaker 2>big trouble, and Mason Rudolph is not the I'd much

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<v Speaker 2>rather have just Najee Harris lining up down there and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, running the old uh, you know, running the

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<v Speaker 2>old what do they call it? The wildcat? Just run

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<v Speaker 2>the wildcat instead of uh, you know. Anyways, well, who

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to How do.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel about Najie Harris as a running back? Has

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<v Speaker 1>he been a complete bust in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>I think part of it is that the line is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. I mean, the line is just it never

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<v Speaker 2>breaks any home. Although the other kid has been better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So maybe Najiherris is a bust.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a shame. I thought Naji Harris was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be good. By the way. I agree with Frank. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Bengals have a little chip on their shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>They've hurt a little too much. Oh, Joe Burrows the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest guy in the history of the world, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>why we went to the Super Bowl, and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of us suck. You know what, There's some other good

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<v Speaker 2>players on the Bengals, you know, and I think they

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<v Speaker 2>may want to prove that they could go to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had that as my fourth pick of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I was almost going to use that, but I changed

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. Now, is it true that Taylor Heinike is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the starter for the Atlanta Falcons? As

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>To be true. So Desmond Ridder played the first eight

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<v Speaker 1>games of the year, then they turned to Taylor Heinecke.

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<v Speaker 1>He played two, Desmond Ridder played the next four. They

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<v Speaker 1>went two and two, but apparently lost to Carolina last

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<v Speaker 1>week was enough to Arthur Smith over the edge. So

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<v Speaker 1>Heinike is the starter for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going with the Falcons minus one. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Falcons have some talent on offense, and I liked

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<v Speaker 2>their offense a lot better when they had Taylor Heinekee

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<v Speaker 2>playing quarterback than Ritter. Ridder throws these incredible interceptions where

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<v Speaker 2>he's just staring the guys down. You just can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week he did you guys, what did me? In

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<v Speaker 2>as well? And the megapod picks with that interception inside

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<v Speaker 2>the five, I mean, you can't throw that in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, are they teaching him with the film?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have film over there in Atlanta and show

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<v Speaker 2>him what he's doing wrong? Because it's ridiculous. But with Heinike,

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<v Speaker 2>they did move the ball. I feel like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>much better quarterback than Ritter and they have some talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you also get them after an embarrassing week now,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean how embarrassing it is to lose to the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers. You did not even score a touchdown. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Oh, that was a great end game that

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<v Speaker 2>I had. You asked me about end game before they

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<v Speaker 2>had up in the second quarter of a monsoon, the

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers to get less than one and a half touchdowns

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<v Speaker 2>in the game minus one forty five. I said, are

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<v Speaker 2>you kidding me? Wo, the Panthers can't may not get

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<v Speaker 2>one touchdown, forget about two touchdowns. So I pounded that

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<v Speaker 2>one under one and a half touchdowns minus one forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Early in the second quarter, when I saw that rain

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<v Speaker 2>coming down, I was like, this is ridiculous. So okay, anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>my point is the Falcons are probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing their best game this week. The Colts. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to go against the Colts because I like them,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like, you know, you're you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>one team on the on the low, you're getting the

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<v Speaker 2>other team on the high. So I want to sell

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<v Speaker 2>high by low. I'm gonna go with the Falcons minus one, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And it looks like I've been right. That could

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<v Speaker 1>be the end of her Desmond Ridder period in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>feels like. But we'll see will hill Wilson Hillson.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll have what Todd's having.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my first pick for all the reasons Todd

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned not a Ridder guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Heineke at least like.

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<v Speaker 3>We He saw him play nose to nose with Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Brady in a playoff game. But was that that COVID

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<v Speaker 3>year in twenty twenty. He's okay, He's not the answer,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not the solution, but he's better than Ritter. I

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<v Speaker 3>have not understood all year, this loyalty to Ridder. He

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<v Speaker 3>took a flyer on him in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Middle of the draft. It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, he can throw the ball at all, he can

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<v Speaker 3>run around. You're going to see why he's a backup

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<v Speaker 3>at some point. But I think you get a little

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<v Speaker 3>boost here.

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<v Speaker 4>And also this is.

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<v Speaker 3>A fate of Indie Indian's knocking on defense. Minshew's a

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<v Speaker 3>turnover waiting to happen. Stikeen's done a good job propping

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<v Speaker 3>him up, propping this team up, but this is still

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<v Speaker 3>a very flawed team. So I will take Atlanta here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys are right, and then Atlanta wins that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet it's going to take the win out of the

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<v Speaker 1>sales of Shane Steiken's Coach of the Year candidacy in

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<v Speaker 1>a very competitive coach of the year market where Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell remains the short shot, followed by Demiico Ryans and

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Stiken. Demiko Ryans has his own trouble in that

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<v Speaker 1>category because CJ. Straud will be out it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>from not getting out of concussion protocol again this week

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<v Speaker 1>in their game against the Cleveland Browns. But that's another story.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, me, I'm staking I do two. My first

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<v Speaker 1>play is Todd get ready the Miami Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins, Gillies waiting to get burned. We

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<v Speaker 2>know what happens when they play a good team and

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys are coming in off of destructive blow.

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<v Speaker 1>Outlawst It's the Bully Bowl between the Cowboys and the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>two teams that generally crush everybody who's worse than them generally,

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<v Speaker 1>and get popped in the mouth when they play somebody

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<v Speaker 1>their own size. The Dolphins are only one point favorites

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<v Speaker 1>now at home against the Cowboys. I love the Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Brown think about the Cowboys defense, which is people think

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<v Speaker 1>of them as having this great pass rush generating defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's my Parsons. No one else generates any

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<v Speaker 1>pass rush at all. And I think that this speed

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<v Speaker 1>of this Dolphins team, which unlike the Cowboys, who have

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<v Speaker 1>these unbelievably stark home road splits where they're seven to

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<v Speaker 1>zero at home with like a plus twenty four point

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<v Speaker 1>point differential on average versus on the road where they're

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<v Speaker 1>three and four, and they're actually in the minus numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously on average, we know that the Dolphins are fast

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<v Speaker 1>on any track. I actually think that they expose the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys defense here, and I think the Dolphins win the

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<v Speaker 1>Bully Bowl and the Cowboys lose their second straight and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Dolphins, still reeling from that loss of

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans two weeks ago, which really could have been

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<v Speaker 1>a season killer, and still might yet prove to be

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<v Speaker 1>a season killer for them if they end up having

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<v Speaker 1>to go on the road in the playoffs. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins get it done in one of the marquee matchups,

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<v Speaker 1>one of two marquee matchups in the NFL this week.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Dolphins are pick number one, my two and three. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just start with my second ear. God help me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this team, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>live through this game. But I think the Raiders are

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<v Speaker 1>getting too many points against the Chiefs. I think, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it ten and a half hour? Ten? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you giving me.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Bokmaker? I see ten most places.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, most ten. Still, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ten and a halfs, but most are tens. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>the ten with the Raiders. There is nothing I like

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<v Speaker 1>about the Raiders. There really isn't, except for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they play for Antonio Pierce. They still come out

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<v Speaker 1>there and they play sixty two, laying a sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>burger after they were shut out the previous week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually a sixty three burger. Please, don't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Get it right, a sixty three burger. As Todd has corrected,

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<v Speaker 1>me correctly, by the way, sixty three burger after getting

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<v Speaker 1>shut out against the Vikings sixty three against the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>who were not wanting to play for Brandon Staley anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>May he rest in peace. I'm taking the ten. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it said. I still have a bet. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bet on the Chiefs number one seed to end

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<v Speaker 1>up the number one seed in the AFC. I still

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a path where the Chiefs do get to

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<v Speaker 1>have the number one seed. I don't think they'll make

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, even if they are, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're flawed this year. But ten is too many. This

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<v Speaker 1>is just a numbers play. The Raiders traditionally give the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs a lot of difficulty, even in the worst of

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<v Speaker 1>times and the best of times for the Chiefs. So

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<v Speaker 1>that totals forty one. It's a low ish total. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you conflate the score, the spread, and the total,

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<v Speaker 1>the market is expecting what like a a twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen, a twenty five to fifteen kind of game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Raiders can surpass that. I'm taking the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders plus the points is my second pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson, Am I getting five or five and a half

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<v Speaker 3>here with the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>You, sir, getting You shouldn't You shouldn't have asked. You

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<v Speaker 2>should have said, what is the line in the Ravens game?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this way we can trust you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I try, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not trustable. What you should have said, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Baltimore Ravens. I would say the five.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched a lot of the forty nine ers Cardinals game.

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<v Speaker 3>I had some live bets, I had some fantasy implications

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<v Speaker 3>about to hopefully win a championship this week.

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<v Speaker 4>No big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>The forty nine Ers did not play good defense last week.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cardinals for over four hundred and thirty yards of offense,

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<v Speaker 3>over eight yards per carry, twenty two first downs over

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<v Speaker 3>six yards per play. It wasn't just garbage time. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the first drive of the game. Cardinals boom touchdown

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<v Speaker 3>late in the game. I mean they if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>for a pick six, look, forty Nineers were still gonna

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<v Speaker 3>win that game. But that was a much closer game

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<v Speaker 3>than I think the final score.

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<v Speaker 4>The Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this trend, and I'm not a huge trending guy,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a trend where they play really well against

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<v Speaker 3>the NFC which makes sense because Lamar in that offense.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an odd ball offense. It's hard to prepare for.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unique.

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<v Speaker 3>You get hardball as a dog, you get a good quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a great kicker and Tucker. I mean, are

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<v Speaker 3>the forty Night's the NFL or the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna win every game by fourteen plus points. They've

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<v Speaker 3>won all these games by double digits. I could easily

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<v Speaker 3>see in this be like a twenty seven to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four type of game. I actually thought about taking the

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<v Speaker 3>over or too, because I think forty nine ers are

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<v Speaker 3>going to get their thirty plus against pretty much everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Baltimore moved the ball. But I'll take

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore plus the five. This is sort of a mini

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<v Speaker 3>hedge too, if you have some long shot tickets on

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Brock Party, which we talked about early in the season, Gale,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a nice way to hedge. You take Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>plus five. If San Fran wins this game, this is

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<v Speaker 3>all on the table for Party to win it, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can middle it too. You can hit your plus five.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still hit Party MVP. But Ravens plus five

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<v Speaker 3>is a pick here.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that pick. Except for one thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Keaton Mitchell injury, which he's out for the year

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<v Speaker 1>now with a torn acl He to me that was

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<v Speaker 1>such a like as much as was made about an injury,

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think enough was made about an injury. That

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<v Speaker 1>injury to me for the Ravens rookie running back is

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<v Speaker 1>the difference to me between them being a legit super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl contender and them not Super Bowl winning contender, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, because he added like there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>chunk plays that he makes on a weekly basis that

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Lamar, I don't know who else

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<v Speaker 1>they go two for that. So that's the only sort

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<v Speaker 1>of cautionary thing for me on that game. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to caution to make cautionary tales. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your pick plus five on the Ravens. I like your

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>idea about that being like a hedge on the party

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<v Speaker 1>thing though, just in case, just in case, would you

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<v Speaker 1>get pretty at twenty two to one?

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<v Speaker 6>Will?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your first two to one week three?

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 4>We talked about it on Robbers Games.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you, I haven't I got him sixteen to one? Yeah, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>And on the pretty train we don't worry about McCaffrey

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<v Speaker 3>right that he's not gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's a running back running back, it's a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>a order. You have voters out there who say I

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<v Speaker 5>will never vote for a non quarterback.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's just a quarterback.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Ard.

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 6>I got a little bit on Purty, not a ton.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 5>I've put so many chips out on everybody that at

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 5>some point I'm gonna win. Some ticket might as well,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 5>like I just keep This race has been crazy.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 6>Though it has gone. Everybody seems to have taken a turn.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 5>I will say the one guy who I really don't

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 5>have anything on who I think could win as Josh

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<v Speaker 5>Allen because he's a safe pick. He's I think the

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<v Speaker 5>Bills are going to win the AFC East just the

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 5>way the schedules lined up for the Bills and Dolphins,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 5>and if the Bills end up coming from behind winning

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 5>the AFC East, he's going to have forty five to

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<v Speaker 5>fifty total touchdowns and he's a safe pick. I do

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 5>think voters are going to get hung up a little

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 5>bit on are we really voting.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 6>Brock Perty as the MVP? Do you don't want to

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 6>be the guy who voted.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 5>Gino Torretta as a Heisman Trophy winner, right, Like, you

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 5>want to make sure that this kind of holds up historically,

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 5>and I think that they're gonna be a little nervous

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<v Speaker 5>about voting party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great point. But here's my counter to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've said this about why I bet Purty. In

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the end, it's one, two, three, four and five for

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>these voters. It's not the same as it used to be,

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>where it's one vote for one person, and so you

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>can really win this by getting the most second place votes.

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think that more than anything points to Purty

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to me because to your point, because I think you're right, Frank,

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I think there is to be there's fifty voters, I think.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>And I've had Aaron Shots on multiple times and he's

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a quarterback thing. And you know, last

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the second last time I had him on, it was

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a Josh Allen guy. Now he was like a Perty

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>or Prescott thing before Prescott had the bad game. But

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>he agreed with me that like Purdy could get it

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>based on that he'll be everybody's second place aboute if

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't go with him first. And so which is

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>unlike say Comeback Player of the Year, which is one,

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>two and three, which is a great point that he made,

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>which is in the case of Damar Hamlin whose minus

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred as opposed to mine is two hundred on

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Purty in MVP Damar Hamlin for comeback for something as

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>nebulous as Comeback Player of the Year. He's either your

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>number one or he's not on your ballot at all,

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a fascinating distinction. Right. You either

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>in your brain have him because he came back from

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>almost dying on the field and making one tackle, or

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't value that as a criteria for the award

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 1>at all, you know. So I think it's I think

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a very interesting. All of these are fascinating markets

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this year. I don't remember a year where we had

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>this many that are that are so up up in

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the air. And I make the point this. I know

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got C. J. Stroud as the offensive Rookie the year,

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but that's why I bring up the puka Akua thing

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>juxtaposed against Stroud, and Will made a great point the

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>other day. So let's say he is you guys, don't

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>hear me. Everybody I hear me. It's only Utah to

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Todd's like, I don't hear you. If Stroud, let's say

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>so Stroud is unlikely to play this week, Let's say

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the Texans lose. You only have two games left in

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the season. Remember he had he didn't play last week,

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and he had a bad game against the Jets before that.

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>If they if he somehow doesn't, isn't able to go,

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and concussions are weird. If he's unable to go in

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the second the last game, imagine if they lose that

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're knocked out of the playoff picture entirely, well,

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>then Demiko Ryans isn't gonna get Coach of the Year.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And then why would you even bother playing right c J.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Stroud the last we could of the season, even if

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he could go, because concussions, there's nothing more serious than

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a head injury, and you got to protect your your

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>long term investment. So I guess the point I'm making

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>about offensive Rookie of the Year is just throwing it into

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>all the all those markets being up in the air.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Is CJ. Stroud? His mine is ten thousand. But if

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that dude either doesn't play or played poorly in the

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>last five games of the season. This over a quarter

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of the year. And if Puka Akua is setting records,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is c J. Stroud still the offensive rookie of the

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>year at that point?

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>You sound like a guy who might have something to

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>do with Kakua.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I do a full disclosure. I do. But but

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you understand my thinking, right.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just teasing you. I agree with your thinking. I'm

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>just teasing it.

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I know.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 4>It reminds me.

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys remember. I think it

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 3>was twenty seventeen the NBA Rookie the year where Embiid

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>was clearly the most dominant rookie but he only played

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 3>like maybe half the season and Brogden was okay, but

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>he played more, and I think they brog slightly. Is

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>this would be sort of analogous if he does miss

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 3>the last four games, played poorly in a fifth game,

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and then it's like, hey, what would you rather have

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the guy who was pretty good for all the season?

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>The guy was great for like, you know, three quarters

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>of the season. So it is interesting, and I do

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>have Stroud under I think thirty five hundred passing yards.

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 3>He's Basically, I think as long as he doesn't play

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>high win. If he throws for like fifty more yards,

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I lose. So I'm right at the edge there. So

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>hopefully oh Man health.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 4>To keep him out.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Embid played thirty one games that rookie year, thirty

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>one and twenty sixteen to seventeen. Uh And as you said,

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>would he average that year twenty point two points a game? Anyway?

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, but they didn't go with him. Okay, who

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>are we on Dodd?

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Me? Yeah, by the way, you were saying, like, do

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you want to be the guy who who bets on

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Purdy to the one year? Did Nick Foles when he

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>had twenty seven touchdowns and two interceptions? Did he win

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the MVP that year? I don't think so, right, No

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 2>he did? No, No, he had that crazy year. So anyways,

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>my second pick, I had the Ravens Circle too. But

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>if Willie's gonna go with them, I'm I'm gonna switch

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it up. I'm gonna go with the Jacksonville Jagoffs and that. No,

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing you just have to say, jag you

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>know that's a Pittsburgh work down here. If Yin's gonna

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>give us some trouble. We're saying, hey, stop being a

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>jag off. Okay. Anyways, the Jacksonville Jaguars played the Ravens

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 2>on the primetime game. I felt the Jaguars. I don't

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>know what you guys thought. I thought the Jaguars could

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>easily won the game. I mean, they literally gave the

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>game away. I believe they were inside the red zone

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>one hundred times and scored zero points. They certainly played

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>them toe to toe. Now, I've been high on the

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars all year, and everybody else has been saying I'm

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>an idiot, and it looks like I have been an idiot.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I really think they're They're the kind

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of team that has the ability to play with anyone.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they they should have. They could have easily

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>won that game. There's no doubt they could have beaten

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens in that football game. But because they do

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>stupid things and mess things up, you know, it ruins

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the game. But now they're going. Now you're getting them

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay just went into Green Bay

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and played a great game, maybe their best game of

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the year, winning a game that they probably most people

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't think they were going to win. And now I

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>get the Jaguars in a situation where probably all week

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 2>they're kicking themselves, going, we should have beaten the Ravens.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>We played better than the Ravens, and we gave the

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 2>game away to the Ravens. Can we just focus in here, guys?

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Can we get a little focus? And now you're going

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>to Tampa Bay and getting one from the Buccaneers. I mean,

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Jags are just slightly better than

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the Buccaneers. I think they're much better. And now I

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>get them fully focused, give me the Jag offs plus one.

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Todd, just know that Trevor Lawrence also is

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>in concussion protocol right now, so that might inform me.

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Is that why the line is so low?

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 1>That is correct? Still?

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait, who's their back up again?

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Bethard? Bethard, No, j Bethart.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, I might have to change this now? Okay, Frank,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going away from the Jaguars to Frank for two

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and come back by Frank.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, second pick.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 6>I like the Minnesota Vikings. I think if you get

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 6>me to three and a half, it's three or three

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 6>and a half.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Either one I'm fine with because I think his Vikings

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 5>team is pretty good.

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 6>They're well coached.

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.479
<v Speaker 5>I like Kevin O'Connell, and I thought Nickmullens played well

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 5>last week. He made some mistakes, but it was his

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 5>first start forever. I think he cleaned some of that

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 5>up justin Jefferson's a little healthier and a lot of

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 5>this is just kind of a fade of the Lions.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 6>And I know you've talked about this all season.

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 5>Goal really that you've been low on the Lions, lower

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 5>than consensus, and I've kind of.

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 6>Come around to that where this Lions team is good.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm not, you know, saying that they're a total fraud

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 5>or anything, but they're certainly not as good as a record.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't believe, not as good as a hype. We've

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 5>seen that for weeks and weeks. The fact that they

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 5>blasted the Broncos doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you look at that game and you're like, oh, yeah,

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 5>that's right. The Broncos stink. They're not really a very

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 5>good team. Great for the Lions to get right, but

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 5>I think they go on the road in a tough environment.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Let team.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 5>The loss of the Bears two weeks ago and really

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 5>got handled by the Bears. So I really like the

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Vikings getting especially if I can get more in the

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 5>field goal. Take the Vikings there, I think, and the

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 5>Vikings know that. You know they're during the wildcard race.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 5>But there's also a scenario where the Vikings are playing

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 5>the Lions.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 6>A week eighteen for the NFC North.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.959
<v Speaker 5>I mean, as crazy as that sounds, because I don't

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 5>remember who they have Week seventeen, that's an easy game.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 5>The Lions have to go play at the Cowboys. The

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 5>Vikings win Sunday. If the Lions lose to the Cowboys a

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 5>week seventeen and the Vikings win week teams for the

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 5>NFC North Championship.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 6>As crazy as that sounds, the Vikings know what's on

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 6>the line. I'll take the Vikings all day. Three and

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 6>a half and my third pick I was way before.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>You go further, Before you go any further, Frank, what

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>are we giving him on that? Guys?

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, Nick Mullins, And the Vikings are three.

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had more threes than three and a halfs I

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>have you.

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Still wanted Frank at three?

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine with three. Obviously you don't

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 5>love it as much. But by the way, I still

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 5>think I think they went straight up. I'm not really

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 5>truly that worried about the three three and a half

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 5>because I think this Vikings team is live on Sunday.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, to answer your question, Vikings host the

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Packers next week on Monday.

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Night, Packers and they easily win that at home against

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 5>the Packers.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:26.439
<v Speaker 6>Packers very up and down.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I know we don't like doubling up, but I was

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 5>gonna double up anyway because my two picks I was

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 5>deciding on here with the Ravens and the Dolphins.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go with the Dolphins.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 5>And look, I can't logically tell you why the Cowboys

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:42.479
<v Speaker 5>are such a weird home road team, but it's a thing.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 5>It's a real thing. Gil, you talked about some of

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 5>these stats. I'm gonna add on to it a little bit.

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 5>At home seven old, like you said, plus one seventy

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 5>one point differential at home, minus four point differential on

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 5>the road. Since at least nineteen thirty three, there's been

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 5>no no team in NFL history sinsiety thirty three to

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 5>be at least plus one seventy at home and have

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 5>a negative road differential.

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I just you're terrible thirty three, he said, Wow.

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 6>At least nineteen thirty the modern era.

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 5>I saw that Bobby belt of one of five point

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 5>three the fan in Dallasy. He had that stat out there.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I didn't double check it, but it sounds right. I mean,

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 5>it's just crazy that they just go on to road

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 5>and they're a different team.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why.

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I can't explain it, but I do know it's a thing.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 5>And for all the reasons you talked about, I just

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 5>I think that this Miami team is ready to get

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 5>to first quality win. I still like this team even

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>though they haven't beat anybody.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:36.479
<v Speaker 6>And I will say this.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 5>Dallas's offense took off when they started funneling everything through

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 5>CD Lamb, which he absolutely should He's phenomenal. The Dolphins

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 5>got Jalen Ramsey. It's a tough matchup. I don't think

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Ceede Lambs was going to cook him one hundred thirty

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 5>yards in his game. So I think that that part

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 5>is a little bit of a bad matchup for the Cowboys.

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Give me the Dolphins. I think they get their first

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 5>quality win of the year.

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know what else, Frank, that neither of us

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that we probably should have at the top is

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it's Mike McDaniel versus Mike McCarthy, and I wouldn't be surprised.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 5>You know what, Gil, I do have to say. I

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 5>think Mike McCarthy is to the point, and I know

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna laugh.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 6>That's fine.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm gonna say already. He's criminally underrated

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 5>if you just do applied resume, Tessa. Mike McCarthy, he's good,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 5>He's had a great career. He just has a bad

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 5>pr guy Like I mean, you look at his is

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 5>I get every reason why people are Don McCarthy and

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 5>all the stuff, but he's everybody laughed at him. Oh

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 5>you're taking over the play call and you're gonna stink

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 5>and they've had one of the best offenses in football.

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Mike McCarthy just has as an image problem I think.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I don't disagree with with the fact that

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he is probably at this point underrated. I think you're

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>probably right about that because we've hammered him for so

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>many years that we that he probably is underrated. On

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, was it recently as two or three

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. He still has those moments man where he

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>does something so dumb, and I just wonder if it's

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna come down to something like that. Well, we'll see,

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. But I think your point as well taken

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on McCarthy, Todd, you got to do.

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Two now, I would say, yeah, I would say he

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>should be held civilly, uh, but not criminally in the

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 2>in the under civiy civilly we could probably do it.

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Did I tell you about my my jury duty last week?

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I had jury duty, Todd, and I

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>had I got out of it, by the way. But

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a speaking of civil and

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>criminal it was a sex trafficking case and as well,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and as we came in from one of the breaks.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>This is my like my advice of the United States

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>legal system. The defendants, the the alleged UH committers of

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>this crime were in the atrium downstairs of this big

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>courthouse in in Las Vegas. And as I'm coming in

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>from the UH from break, the woman it was a duo.

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It was a guy and a girl who were alleged

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to have prostituted a young girl and use the proceeds

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>to fuel their lifestyle. And I heard the girl, what's

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that is?

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 2>That frowned upon again?

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Now is that what? I'm sorry?

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I was making a.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Frown upon? I'm sorry? Is that frownd upon? And she

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is on the phone as I walk in, swear to

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>guy going going going, that motherfucker got off his case.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>There ain't no fucking way I'm settling mind. And I

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, I'm like, I probably shouldn't have heard that.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should go to the judge and sort of

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>say because you could. At that point, I could have

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten off from being like I'm influenced by her, she's

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>very aggressive, or I could have been like, I really

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>respect her passion, I'm on her side. I could have

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>taken it anyway. That was my since you brought up

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 1>criminal versus Sibyl, sorry to interrupt.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for the Heald criminal justice system interluded,

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>yes portion of our program. Okay, my second pick, I'm

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna go away from the Jags because of the quarterback situation.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for pointing that out.

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with the Bay Packers minus the five

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>at Carolina. I think that the Carolina Panthers are still

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a very very bad team on offense, and you know

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>they did nothing last week to make me think they could.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>By the way, there's no way they should have even

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>won the game, and it probably shouldn't have even been close,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 2>but Desmond Rider did them in. But you know, the

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Packers have had a little resurgence. Now they have a

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>little you know, bump in the road losing to the Buccaneers.

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't see why they can't beat the Panthers by

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>five points. It's less than a touchdown. The Panthers can't score,

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I like, if you're gonna lay points

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>against the team, it's always good to go against a

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>team that can't score. And I think the Packers will

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>get enough. So give me the Packers minus five, and

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>then for my third, you want me to do my

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>third right away?

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my third, I was gonna go with with Will's

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Ravens pick. I like that one also, but I'm going

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to go with the under in the Texans Browns game.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's forty or forty and a half.

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys have, Texans Browns forty forty forty

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>more forties than forty and a half.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go on under forty. The Browns had

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>no business winning that game on Sunday. Let's be honest.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's basically the Bears just handing them the win.

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>They did nothing on offense, I mean absolutely nothing the

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 2>entire game. Joe Flacco. I still think Walker is better

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 2>than Flacco. But you know, Joe Flacco throws one or

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 2>two nice deep balls in the game. He did have

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that one beautiful throw on the on the last drive,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 2>but he throws some really bad balls. He threw a

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>pick six, another one should have been a pick sick.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he just he's not very good Joe Flacco.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a reason he was on the street before this season.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 2>And I just don't see the Browns being offensively that good.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>The Texans. Now, who's playing quarterback? Is it Keenum? Is

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 2>is it Davis Mills? Is it CGT? We have no

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 2>idea who's even playing. And the brown are a good

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 2>defensive team, so give me the under forty. Also, they

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 2>don't have Tank Dell anymore the Texans. I think he

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was a big part of that offense, So give me

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>under forty. In that game, I just think the Browns

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>will try whatever they can to just grind it out,

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>ground and pound it the whole game. Say, look, let's

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>not let Flaco beat us with a pick six like

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 2>he almost did last week, and let's just get out

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of here seventeen fourteen somehow and give me one hundred

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and forty in the grounds.

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>It should be Keith Ketem a case Keenum as far

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>as we know right now, if CJ. Stroud is unable

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to go, and this is a game, the Browns Texans

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>game is really like both teams sort of had luckbox wins.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>The Browns probably shouldn't have been in that position, because

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you're right, the Bears offense didn't do anything, but like

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>that Flacco to Cooper game tying touchdown pass, I don't

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>know how that got through. And then the Texans was

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the most luck boxy win of them all, where Keenom

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>somehow got them that final drive. So it should be

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an interesting game. Todd going under on the forty, Really,

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>what you got?

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna lay it with the Eagles. I think we're

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 3>looking at what eleven and a half twelve? I'm okay

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>laying in the twelve year Wow.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just.

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Think this is a spot where they get back on track.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 3>The weakness for the Eagles as we've seen it is

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 3>their secondary. Tommy Devido in the gang is not going

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.439
<v Speaker 3>to really exploit that. Philly has a good front four,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a good pass rush. The Giants are not good up front.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like this is one where the Philly

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>gets a lead, they're feeling good. It's a you know,

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a standalone game here. The crowd is

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 3>going to be into it. They sort of need this game.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 3>So you worry when you're laying double digits, Hey, is

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 3>this team going to be focused? Are they gonna be

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 3>motivated when you've.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 4>Lost three in a row.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be focused. They're gonna be motivated. They're gonna

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>play a full sixty minutes here. So I could easily

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 3>see this game being, you know, thirty one to ten,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>thirty four to ten, something like that.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not afraid to lay it here with the Eagles.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I know there's this I think you call it too

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 3>cool for school crowd gil where it's like, oh, you

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 3>can't lay double digit the NFL if you go back

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 3>to last I think it's like ten years, which is

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 3>a decent sample size here in the NFL, double digit

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 3>favorites take you're better off laying it and taking it. Yeah,

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>those against you know what kind of what we thought.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, we've always heard in terms of conventional wisdom,

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 3>where you can't can't lay the DOUBLEJNFL.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 4>So I think the Eagles role here. I think they

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 4>get back on track. Eagles minus the twelve.

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>We should point out because of Christmas, this is a

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>funky week right. There's the Thursday night game tonight between

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the Saints and the Rams. Then we have two Saturday

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>games the Bengals, Steelers and the Bills Chargers. Then we

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>have six early Sunday games December twenty fourth, three afternoon

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 1>games and then the Sunday night game, and then three

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, Christmas Day Raiders, Chiefs, Giants, Eagles, Ravens, Niners

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to close the weekend. Man great, Okay, I hate my

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>third pick, but I have to make it. I think

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos are given too many points against the Patriots.

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm taking the Patriots, but I'm gonna

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>take the six and a half with the New England Patriots.

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>The total is thirty four. So again, let's do the

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 1>let's do the score total conflation.

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourteen, what is it? Twenty to fourteen.

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Twenty to fourteen, correct something like that. I think the

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Patriots can keep it within six against this six and

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a half rather with this Broncos team. I don't love

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. I don't like anything that they were doing,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>but they did show a pulse here recently, and I

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>think the Broncos again are sort of criminally. I don't

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. Like that was one of the

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>ones we got totally right last week. Like the love

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>for the Broncos was so over the top anecdotally. It

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't necessarily in the market because it bounced back and

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>forth in the market all week against the Lions. But

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like I was all about the Lions. I think the

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Broncos were plus twelve and turnovers in the last four

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of that five game winning streak. They had just beaten

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.720
<v Speaker 1>easton Stick and the Chargers, and people are like, people

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 1>want to make Sean Payton and the Broncos into something.

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they may yet make the playoffs

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because their last three games are very easy, and they

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>ought to win this game against the Patriots. But six

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and a half, I will take it, Bill Belichick going

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>up against Sean Payton, Give me the six and a

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>half on the Pats, and I will not enjoy that

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>whole experience taking the six and a half, but I

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>will nonetheless take them all right, Which brings us to

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>our teaser of the week, Frank, what's your favorite two

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>team six point teaser of the week, Sir, I.

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 6>Didn't love a whole lot. I can't lie.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 5>I looked at this one the longest out of everything.

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 5>Just going to kind of be a little boring here

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 5>and take a couple NFC North teams. I'll go with

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 5>the Packers and the Bears. Packers for all the reasons

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Todd talked about the Panthers still stink like I was

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 5>on the Falcons too, like all of us were at

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 5>last week, and the Panthers didn't really win that game.

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 5>The Falcons just gave it away because Arthur Smith. So

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 5>I just don't see the Panthers winning this game. I

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 5>don't think the Packers are very good, but they could

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 5>beat the Panthers, okay, and then the Bears. It's a

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 5>weird comparison between the lines. Where they were only plus

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 5>three at the Browns, they're only minus four against the

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Cardinals at home. Tell me that there's a way if

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 5>you're giving two points for home field advantage. There's only

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 5>a three point difference on a neutral field between the

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 5>Browns and the Cardinals.

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 6>Like that, that doesn't make sense to me. I thought

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 6>this line was too low.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 5>I think the Bears win this game against the Cardinals

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 5>team that's not exactly going to be happy to be

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 5>playing in the cold, in the rain in Chicago. So

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 5>I think Packers Bears get him under a field goal.

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm fine with that teaser.

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>This is I think this is going to be going

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the rare teaser weeks where all

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of us have a different one. Todd, what's yours?

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the teasers were very difficult to find this week.

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with the Titans up to eight

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and a half. You know, I don't like the Titans,

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 2>but you know, somehow they usually play close games. They

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 2>found a way even to beat Miami in that crazy

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 2>game down fourteen late. I'm not a big fan of

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks, whether you have Gino Smith or Drew Locker,

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 2>whoever plays quarterback over there.

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Gina was a full practice yesterday, by the way.

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even with Gino, I don't don't think the Seahawks

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 2>are that great that they're going to go in and

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 2>blow out the Titans. So I think the Titans and

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.439
<v Speaker 2>also the Titans, you know, they tend to play these

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, lower scoring games in the sense that you know,

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 2>they run the ball a lot and they try to

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, protect the quarterback. So give me the Titans

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>plus the eight and a half and then give me

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the Bronx to win the game minus a half against

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. You know, I mean, the Patriots are what

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>they are, what the Patriots are what we thought they are.

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>They are a team with no quarterback. And now I

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>don't like the Broncos, but at home, you know, I

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think they should have a problem beating the Patriots.

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So just give me the Broncos minus half.

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>As the other side, way, Will Levis did not practice yesterday,

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.879
<v Speaker 1>we might see the return of Ryan Tannehill that game between.

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Them, I'd rather have Ryan. I'd rather have Ryan Tannehil.

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By the way, they just put up some on

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>those TV screens here at the d and we were

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just talking about the Patriots there they put up somebody.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Are the Patriots trying to set up a bidding war

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>for Bill Belichick? Do you think teams would get in

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a bidding war for Bill Belichick.

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't it's I don't think the mechanics of it

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 5>work because he's all, what are the Patriots?

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 6>What are the Patriots gonna do?

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Or are they gonna say, Yeah, Bill, we're firing you, But

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 5>we're not really firing. You're going to keep you until

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 5>there's a trade and then we're going to hire our

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 5>new coach. Well, you're still on our He makes a

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of money, like Robertcraft, still gonna be paying him

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 5>every day he's there. I don't think the mechanics work

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.320
<v Speaker 5>that well, but I could see it the Bill Belichick.

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 5>Bill Belichick is going to be the Chargers coach, right, Like.

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see, just as a football fan,

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I would like to see, like Brady had his moment

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 3>post Belichick. I would like to see Belichick, you know,

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 3>with a good team, a good coach. Him and Herbert

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 3>would make like I'm rooting for that.

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I want to see that happen.

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I would specifically the Chargers, I would like to see, yeah,

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>because that would be Yeah, that would be wonderful to

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>see because if it doesn't go well, it does a

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>couple things. Brandon Staley ain't that bad? Then if Bill

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Belichick can't do anything with it. And also, Bill Belichick

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>ultimately wasn't the coach we thought he was. I'm sorry,

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't all come on as great as as

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>great as he was. No, he's still a first ballot

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.919
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer, don't get me wrong, But there has

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a sentence at the end of everybody talking

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>about Bill Belichick of yeah, but when he didn't have Grady,

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>he kind of sucked because if he can't win with

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert, that set that phrase has to exist.

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 6>Where it you know, but you know, wels can't win

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 6>with Justin Herbert.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 5>Justin Herbert can't win with Justin Herbert? Are we Justin

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 5>Herbert's the most overrated player in the NFL A right,

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 5>you think?

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 6>So, like, what's he done? What's he done?

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't done.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 3>He had a nice week last week though, even though

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 3>he didn't play. That was his best week because you

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 3>saw what that.

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Team mark about it, because he saw that's right exactly.

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 6>I like Justin Herbert.

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 5>I think he's good, but we've just given him a

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 5>pass since his rookie year of like, oh yeah, he's

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 5>a late never mind that he never comes through in

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarter, ever, and we judge every other quarterback

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 5>that way. Justin, Justin Herbert has just been on scholarships

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 5>since his rookie year. He doesn't look at his Everybody

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 5>else gets judged by the record. Why doesn't Justin Herbert

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 5>Like it's if Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott are looking

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 5>at that guy, like, why do we get that pass?

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Why don't we get that treatment?

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, that's why.

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a good point. Justin Herbert's career record. Justin

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Herbert's career record thirty two is thirty and thirty three.

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>It's nice to compare it to Tua's because they were

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:24.399
<v Speaker 1>drafted right next to each other. Tua's career record is

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty one and seventeen. By comparison.

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 5>On the cholarship man, you got a big arm. You

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 5>can throw the ball a lot, not to anybody in

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarter, but he's got a big arm.

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Say what you're saying? Will what'd you say? They I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.280
<v Speaker 3>play on different teas. I mean that's Hill and Waddle.

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean if you give Herbert and I think, look Herbert,

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 3>that talent gets overrated, Like, oh, Eckler's this great player.

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Eckler.

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's ever had a thousand yard Russian season.

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 3>He's always hurt.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 4>He now is always hurt. They're not good on defense.

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Who's the other receiver? Williams is always hurt? I just

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 4>I think Herbert's talent has been over raet to.

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, the thing is Turbert has

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>had talent, though, right, Keenan Allen is as good as

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:06.759
<v Speaker 1>it gets, I don't know.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no, as good as it gets as a

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 3>receiver in the end, like you think he's as good

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 3>as Hill.

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, maybe not as good as it gets. But

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like we shouldn't be knocking let's we shouldn't be knocking

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the talent around him he's got. He has. He has

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>plenty more talent than a lot of teams have around him,

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.959
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Oh I do. Like, I mean, how many

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>teams have as much receiver talent as he has? Over

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like to have a guy like Keenan Allen weekend and

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>week out, to have a Mike Williams, to have you know, Uhler, well,

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you know they do have injuries. But I guess listen,

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 1>what it speaks to is a point about football itself,

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>which is football is the hardest sport to make these

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>kinds of judgments about, right, because there are different coordinators,

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>there are different systems, and there's different levels of tent line,

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and the offensive line is is gigantic, which is why

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I go back to the coaching point, which to me

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is a cleaner comparison. Again, they'll get all my soapbox.

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>But if you've got a coach winning three Super Bowls

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.640
<v Speaker 1>with three mediocre quarterbacks back in the day, like a

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson Gibbs, and then you got a Belichick who's

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 1>had Tom Brady the goat for all these years, but

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>then when Tom Brady disappears, all of a sudden, you suck.

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of bad with Tom Brady at the end.

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying like, at some point, you do have

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to have a phrase at the end. Again, people go

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to the opposite, Oh Gil said Bill Beljake's up. No,

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not first ballot Hall of Famer because he did

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>what he did, But you do have to have that

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 1>sentence at the end for me. For me, one man's opinion.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>By the way, can you wear a hoodie in the dome? Though?

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 2>That's the question. If he goes to San Diego and

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>now he's in that hot weather. You can't wear a

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 2>hoodie in there.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>No, it's an excellent point, Hut.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 2>As always, that would be a big problem because I

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>think he believe he has to wear the hoodie. What

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 2>does he wear? He always wears the hoodie, doesn't he

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 2>He does?

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>He didn't used to though many many years ago. Right,

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>he's just where your Cleveland Brown's and your Patriots thing.

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>And then once he got to the hoodie, never let

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it go? Will what is your teaser?

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 4>I will go Steelers.

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 3>That's just a lot of points in the Steelers Bengals game,

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Browning on the road. I know we've been impressed with Browning,

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 3>but the Bengals don't have Chase, they.

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Don't have Reader.

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll take the Steelers and I'll throw it with the Titans.

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I would expect this, you know, Seattle Tennessee game to

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 3>be close. Seattle on the road is a different team

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>short rest. So I will go Titans and I will

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 3>go Steelers in that.

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I am in that. I am gonna go the Indianapolis Colts.

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Give me seven with them against the Falcons. I'll take

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew and the Colts getting all those points on

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the road against the Falcons and Taylor Henekey, and I'll

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>pair the Colts with the Minnesota Vikings. These are not wongers,

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen. It is not a want to tell ye, well,

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>good luck for fez finding any wongs? Are there any wongs?

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Are there any wongs this week? Yeah, there's a couple, but.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 4>That's you're gonna be in big trouble, Gilly.

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't even see one wong, do you well?

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 3>If you went Bengals and the ones we did Bengals, Oh.

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a few, you're right, Yeah, No, I'm not

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 1>doing those. I'm going Colts and Vikings. Coltson Vikings for me,

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all right? Which brings us to our final two questions

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of each and every megapod. First one, which of the

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>big favorites in your opinion is the most likely to lose? Outright?

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Your choices are on Saturday, a game we have not

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>even mentioned. The Bills eleven and a half twelve point

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>favorites on the road against the Charge the East and

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>stick led Los Angeles Chargers. That is choice number one?

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Good God? Is that the only choice?

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I got to throw in the couple games on Monday

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs are ten point favorites at home against the Raiders,

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and the Eagles thirteen or twelve and a half somewhere

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.560
<v Speaker 1>in there. What do we end up giving will for

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that one? Todd?

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, he said twelve and a half, and I

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>think there's enough twelve and all the book mayors thirteen.

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 2>But twelve and a half. I think we can give them.

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Twelve and a half, yeah, for sure. And then the

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Eagles twelve and a half point favorites at home against

0:57:55.320 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the Giants. So Bills, your choices again are Bills, Chiefs, Eagles.

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>One of them will lose. If one of them loses,

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>who is it?

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 5>Frank, I don't really believe this, but I'll make a

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 5>case against the Bills, because look, they're coming off of

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 5>this stretch. Their last three games have been at Philly,

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 5>at Kansas City versus Dallas. They're gonna look at this

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 5>as a breather. Oh good, this is easy part of

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 5>our schedule. We get to walk this week. So I

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 5>think that this is a little bit of a letdown

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 5>spot for them. And we've seen teams fire their coach

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 5>and have a dead cat bounce right like we've seen,

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna play harder.

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 6>We saw it the Raiders.

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 5>Maybe the Chargers didn't like Brandon Staley. It certainly didn't

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 5>seem like they liked them when they were giving up

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 5>sixty three points and getting them fired the other day.

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 5>So maybe we see a little bit of an effort

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 5>out of the Chargers, a little bit of a letdown

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 5>from the Bills, and this game is closer than we think.

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 5>Do I really truly believe the Chargers are beating the Bills?

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 6>But of these three, that's easily the one that I.

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Thought, you say, But you asked the damn questioned Gil,

0:58:57.840 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So I had to answer, By the way, a dead

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>cat bounce in a in an age of political correctness,

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>how has that lasted dead cat bounce?

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 2>What it has to do with a cat bouncing when

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it falls from a high thing, is what's correct?

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 6>The cat that jumped, it's not me. I didn't do it.

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not the ones to criticize it. I'm

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 1>just saying dead.

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But what's the political part?

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, the dead part? Right?

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Does the cat live after the bounce?

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 6>Is a cat alive when it's bounce?

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I don't think anybody's in favor

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:35.280
<v Speaker 2>or not in.

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Favor, cat bro, Let me tell you something. When I

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.920
<v Speaker 1>called a soccer you know, these big soccer tournaments, these

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 1>global soccer tournaments, and I called one of them the

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>group of Death. I was told we don't say that anymore.

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And I said, who am I offending the dead? And

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they were like, well, yeah, so believe me. These policemen

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>are all over the place for all this stuff. Anyway,

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not making the case. I'm just pointing out, good God, Todd,

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Tod Wish, nev surprise, we haven't Todd Wish. You know

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 1>what I love about most about you, Todd, is when

1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you get surprisingly serious at any given moment. That's really

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>my favorite aspect of you. It's my favorite thing of

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 1>all my Todd Wish to have favorite things. It's when

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you all of a sudden surprisingly get serious.

1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Understand what the political correctness feature of that discussion is.

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I got your political correctness right here. All right,

1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm uh, Todd, what is yours? Of those three? What's

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the most likely to lose? Act?

1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pass that. I'll take the raiders to

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>beat the chiefs too. You know the chiefs they like

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to throw the voter guys who dropped the ball, and

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 2>in National Football League that's typically not the best thing

1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>in the world. So they could lose to anyone. You

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.080
<v Speaker 2>know that they lost to the bron because they lost

1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the you know, Chiefs could lose.

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 1>That's mine too, Will.

1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Chargers, I could see keeping it close, actually winning.

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll go with it, just because, like Frank said,

1:00:55.640 --> 1:01:00.200
<v Speaker 3>the spot Chargers were humiliated. Figure, they show some pride, Bills, right,

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:01.720
<v Speaker 3>they save their season against the Chiefs.

1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:02.920
<v Speaker 4>They beat up on the Cowboys.

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:05.080
<v Speaker 3>You where they catch their breath here they you know,

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:08.480
<v Speaker 3>they're a little laxic, daisical, and the Chargers hang around.

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:10.400
<v Speaker 3>So I guess I'll just say Bills. Although I don't

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:11.920
<v Speaker 3>believe it, I will say this. There will probably be

1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:13.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of three team ten point teasers.

1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Bills, Bills.

1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Chiefs, and Eagles all standalone games. You get them all

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:21.120
<v Speaker 4>under a field goal. And I can't really say I

1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:21.800
<v Speaker 4>disagree with it.

1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But the Chargers have no talent, Will how could they

1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:24.919
<v Speaker 1>possibly win that game?

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I I apologize Austin Eckleer, who's never had a thousand

1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 3>yard season. Obviously, you know the next uh, one of

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:33.080
<v Speaker 3>the great running backs Walt time. I do think their

1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:35.360
<v Speaker 3>their talent's a little overrated. My hot take is their

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:37.680
<v Speaker 3>uniforms are so cool that we're all visual people, they

1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:38.640
<v Speaker 3>are better.

1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that could be. I think the Eagles.

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 2>The Eagles are not the I think they are what

1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:49.200
<v Speaker 2>we thought they were. Everyone was saying how lucky they

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<v Speaker 2>are they even against Seattle. I mean, he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of time to throw. They're not averaging you

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<v Speaker 2>yards per play anymore. There's something wrong over there and Hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't look to me like he's one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks a little scuffed up a bit. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles are in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagles the franchise that won their Super Bowl with

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<v Speaker 1>replay rules from the future that didn't exist that previous

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that whole season. Never forget by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, I think were great last year. That was

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<v Speaker 1>their year, and I feel like they've luckboxed into this

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<v Speaker 1>record this year because with those three losses that they've

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<v Speaker 1>just had, they could have easily had two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have easily had multiple other losses. The two

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<v Speaker 1>games against the Commodores, they could have lost either of those,

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<v Speaker 1>if not both. Uh, the game against the cow the

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<v Speaker 1>first game against the Cowboys. They should have lost the

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<v Speaker 1>game against Buffalo, they absolutely should have lost it. Y're right,

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<v Speaker 1>will the very first game of the season, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>forget about that where they relied on Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we think they'll call the fall correctly? Called the

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<v Speaker 3>fall start in Philly against Kelsey on those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't so. I'm so. I was so angry. I

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<v Speaker 2>had an Eagles team total over thirteen and a half

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<v Speaker 2>first half. I also had Eagles to win the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They at third and one at the five yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>They can run the tuas push fourteen times in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>never have a problem, and the one time I need

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<v Speaker 2>them to just punch it in and I win both beats.

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<v Speaker 2>They call a foal star. But he that played it

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<v Speaker 2>even the guys didn't even line up yet, No one

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<v Speaker 2>was lined up yet. Oh he moved the ball. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't move the ball. Watch the replays. Bullshit. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the worst call I've ever seen in my goddamn life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that was unbelievable. What happened to me with that? With

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<v Speaker 2>that ridiculous good I pushed it?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to me? What happened to me, by the way, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>I took that same stance on guessing lines on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody told me there was some there was some

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<v Speaker 1>other angle that I did not see, where like he

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<v Speaker 1>clearly moved the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Afoot Oh and when did they ever call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever? Ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they said that they hadn't been warning Kelsey about this,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were warning Kelsey and they got a call down.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish nev has over thirteen and a half first half

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<v Speaker 2>theam total right, Can you do us a favor and

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<v Speaker 2>call it on Kelsey right now? Because that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because what then when what it really means is

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean you didn't call it all those

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<v Speaker 1>other times that he did it? That's the real crime,

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<v Speaker 1>right if that's if that's the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry brought it up. I didn't know you had a

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<v Speaker 4>bet on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the thing about the Kadarius Tony thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when Orlobski came on ESPN the next day, is like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was off sides the other three times that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they call it? Then? You know? Why did

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<v Speaker 1>they choose to call it when they called it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, ways before the play even started. Can't

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<v Speaker 2>you just say, hey, move it back. It's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>if he like does it like when Okay, everyone's lined

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<v Speaker 2>up now he moved.

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<v Speaker 1>On, But it's not the referees obligation to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>player to move it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's that's so that is just Todd Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you said took his bush? Can we do equal time?

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<v Speaker 1>I want you favorite Christmas song and will you sing

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<v Speaker 1>it please?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really, I mean my favorite is actually I

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<v Speaker 2>would typically go with UH with Kelly Bidlin, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did have somebody in my WhatsApp group asked me to sing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my favorite injured Christmas song, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>Uh's better watch at Yan's better, not cry like a

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Briani Fanin's better or not? Because I'm telling youons

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<v Speaker 2>why saying of Claus is coming down time, coming down time,

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<v Speaker 2>then clauses coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>Pine and at That's great. That was wonderful. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I also think Kansas City would be the team most

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<v Speaker 1>likely lose to the Raiders and at that's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, final question. We live in a bizarre world.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen NFL games Thursday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. You must

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<v Speaker 1>play aside on each and every one of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>you get one free pass, Frank Schwab one that you

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<v Speaker 1>want no part of. What's the game you want no

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<v Speaker 1>part of?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so glad I go first here because I can't

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<v Speaker 5>be the only one picking the Commander's Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine, say, can we all just are there

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<v Speaker 3>odds that we're all going to pick the same game?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, can you imagine being a Jets season ticket holder?

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<v Speaker 5>It is Christmas Eve, It's probably gonna be like forty

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<v Speaker 5>one degrees in raining. You're gonna spend like one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>dollars for parking to go watch the Commanders and the Jets. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just selling your family on that. Like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's Christmas Eve, but I gotta go watch

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<v Speaker 5>the Commanders and the Jets today.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that might be the most miserable Well, if Falcons

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<v Speaker 5>Panthers didn't happened last week, this might be the most

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<v Speaker 5>miserable football game of many many years.

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<v Speaker 2>That I mean, that's that's that's definitely a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know the Jets are going to play defense.

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<v Speaker 2>The commanders are going to play no defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally my game, commander's jets. I agree with Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>that's mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it's a very difficult game too. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, Frank, it's an NFL game, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will watch any NFL game ever, I in any scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. If somebody dies on the field, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>scrape him off and we'll bring another guy. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that's right. I'm just saying, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>we are as hooked to this NFL crap as you

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly be hooked to as a country's.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>The NBA has five great matchups on Christmas, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>all going to watch Raiders, Chiefs, and Giants, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>No question.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also like watchable. That sport's not watchable that that

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<v Speaker 2>that is ridiculous sport.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when there's college but first of all college

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<v Speaker 1>bowl games, I mean two years ago, right, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember betting like every college bowl game the first day,

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<v Speaker 1>pre flop all of them, like going crazy. College bowl

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<v Speaker 1>games are now only in game betable at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, but yeah, like Old Dominion in Western Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>which we all made out well on. But it's but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those things where there's if there's

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<v Speaker 1>five college football bowl games and there's nothing else, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch them. But against an NFL slate, not a chance

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<v Speaker 1>I'll even pay attention. I really won't. No matter what

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<v Speaker 1>the game tonight Saints Rams, Like, who would watch any

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<v Speaker 1>other sport of the equivalent kind of teams? Like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>that tonight in the NBA? What's the Saints Rams game?

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<v Speaker 1>Equivalent in the NBA standings? You watching that? What is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it would be the the I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think of like comparable five hundred teams. That's the Brooklyn Nets.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like the Nicks and the Nets or something.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nets taking on the uh, the Rockets tonight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody's watching that anyway, DoD what did you What

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<v Speaker 1>was your choice? Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going on with Frank. I like what Frank said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm with Frank will for four of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Noah, I mean that's obviously one that I want

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with, but just to be different because

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the game of the week, it probably is.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no feel for for Cowboys Dolphins whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people would answer it wins

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<v Speaker 1>by ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just they're so hard to figure because they're just

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<v Speaker 3>so good when they're punching below their weight, but when

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<v Speaker 3>they find somebody as good as them, they struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's one as great as a game it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't'm not crazy about batting that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that probably feel the way you do about that,

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<v Speaker 1>which and you make a good point like, would any

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<v Speaker 1>outcome surprise you Dallas blowout, Dallas close win, Miami close win,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami blowout. I'm not sure any would. It's all I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Yeah, it's all very possible, gentlemen. Merry

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas to you all, holiday cheer whatever you christ didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say to each other? Happy Birthday? No, Merry Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Christmas. We just did our top five Christmas songs. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>have a safe Christmas. Hey Todd, did you catch Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Palms a Christmas speech this year? Did you catch it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I kind of I missed that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>As wonderful as ever. As wonderful as ever. Frank Schwab

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<v Speaker 1>from Yahoo Sports, Thank you, Frank. Great seeing you, and

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<v Speaker 1>again sorry about the whole Week eighteen stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Graduated up the week sixteen. Maybe next year I can

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<v Speaker 5>get into November at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's not it's not get crazy, Frank, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely appreciate you guys. It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you so much for spending the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd wish Nev and Will Hill wish Nev the Showtime

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<v Speaker 1>docuseriies action that you can follow him at t wish

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<v Speaker 1>Nev w t wishv.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I realized that I can put

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<v Speaker 2>more than two hundred and fifty six people in my

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<v Speaker 2>WhatsApp group. Oh so if you want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the college basketball WhatsApp group, that's been doing pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>before Tuesday night when I got crushed. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, ask me over.

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<v Speaker 1>There, okay, at t wish nev and then Will Hill

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<v Speaker 1>at not V Will Hill to Ease on the V.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also on the bear Bets podcast with Chris FeliCa.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the Golden Boys what's that stuff? Gold Boys Discord,

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<v Speaker 1>gold Boys Discord, Frank, what's your what's your your? Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at Yahoo Schwab at Yahoo schwab. All right. Beating the

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<v Speaker 1>Book podcast for Week sixteen. Good luck with all your

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<v Speaker 1>bets in the National Football League.