1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and we do have a little bit of housekeeping stuff 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: here to take care of before we move on to 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the show. Here Steel has made a 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: hire today. Matt made an official with Yes with Aaron 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Curry as their inside linebackers coach Jerry Olsavsky, who've been 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: with the team in the last twenty years as as 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: a coach not being brought back. That makes Mike Tomlin's 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: staff is a heck of a lot younger. Now. I 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: didn't think of that in terms of youth and all that. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Carl Dunbar's now the he's been here for five years, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: he's now the senior coach on the staff. Wow, that's amazing. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: I mean that's a very unstealer like thing through my lifetime, 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The Cooke was here for 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: a million years. We talked about coach Mitchell, you know, 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean guys that have been in the long, long 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: term situations as a position coach. Interesting, so Jerry O 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: was the longest tender before this, right, okay, okay um. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know anything about Curry I don't, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, with you. I mean at Wikipedia and frankly, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: his claim to fame, which doesn't mean he's a bad 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: coach or a good coach, was he was the safest 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: prospect in the draft. He's a camp miss guy and 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: he missed. You know, it happens, Yeah, yeah, right, I 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: mean maybe that makes him a better coach. I mean, 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: realizes how what his mistakes for whatever. But that's if 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned his name to me two days ago, that 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: would be my first thought. Yeah, yeah, Moving on here, 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: the Football Outsiders, which we often refer to on the show, 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: they put out their way too early twenty twenty three 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: projections interesting for the next year. And of course this 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: has nothing. No draft has happened, no free agency has happened. 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: But here's how they think things are going to break 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: down next season. Okay, and you know, I think a 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: lot of this. The thing that they do on here, 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: which is which is interesting, is a list of teams 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: and their dvoas and everything. Then they list who they 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: think the starting quarterback, yeah, is going to be. In 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: a lot of these cases it's unknown. There's a couple 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: of these that could be flat out wrong, and then 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: there's a couple of them that are either unknown or traffic, right, Yeah, 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: it makes sense which one, but it's going to be 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: young guy. So they have the Bills at number one 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: total DVA of seventeen. Okay, they were super high. I 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: think they ended up one. They were number one, yeah, 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: heading into the season, and then coming out of the season. 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City is number two, tied with They love Baltimore. 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: They love Baltimore, and they have Lamar as the quarterback, 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: which I have my doubts about, right, but they have 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: them tied in terms of total DVOA with Kansas City. Yeah. 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't see them in that light. I mean they 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: have them as the fourth best offense, seventh best defense, 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: best special teams. Talking about Baltimore, Yeah, I don't see 54 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the fourth best offense even with Lamar. I don't know. 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I thought the seventh best defense. And here's why. So 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: let's say Lamar is the quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. They have to then figure out 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: a way to get his forty or whatever million dollars 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract on their roster cap ramifications. Now they've got 60 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: they've got about twenty five million in cap space right now. 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: But Lamar's eating up all that. You can't fudge that. No, right, right, 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, if he's if he's playing on the franchise tag, 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: that's his cap number. As gonna say. The franchise tag 64 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: makes it tough cap wise because he can't massage it 65 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: over years or you know, so they're not adding anything agency, 66 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I would think, not right, you know, and so then 67 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: you have to start cutting unless he's traded. Then if 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: he's traded, then there's a different name under quarterback, and 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: then it comes down now it's a completely different conversation. Yeah. 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're going to be that high, 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: and they were unreasonably high even late in the year 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: when they were playing terrible. I didn't quite get that. 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Uh they if San Francisco number four with brock Purty 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: at quarterback, well, brock Purdy. The news came out today 75 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: brock Purdy had to delay his surgery because he's still 76 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: swelling in his elbow. He's not going to be ready 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: for camp I don't think he's gonna be ready for 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Week one. I don't even know if he's good. I 79 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: know that I tend to think that he's not. In 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: fact all that way In fact, you know some of 81 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: the stuff you see these re drafts of the of 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two draft, and you know, I get it. 83 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: That's who wants to do that stuff. But they do it. 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: And they had brock Purty is like a top five pick. Yeah, 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: not for me. No, I could see a first rounder 86 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: because maybe he's a starting quarterback at Kirk Cousins. You know, 87 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: maybe I still have my doubts. He doesn't have the 88 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: arm strength is not good. It's not NFL level. You 89 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: can't that's something that you can move that too, Yeah, 90 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: something you can't get. You can't fix that. No, no, no, 91 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Which is why a guy like Anthony Richardson, when you 92 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: know we're talking he's got the big arm, you know, 93 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the experience. Thirty had the experience, 94 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have a big arm. In fact, his 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: arm is below average. And I don't think he's gonna 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: be there for the beginning of the season or have 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: any kind of off season with the team, right, which 98 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: is crucial for a second year quarterback. Kind of a 99 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: big deal. And oh, by the way, the other guy 100 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: who's under contract for them at quarterback is coming off 101 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: of what an ACL yeah, I think there's a chance 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: he gets traded too lands you can trade him with 103 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: it when he's got coming off an acel. Yeah, that's 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: the problem, especially for a guy who makes his living running. 105 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: So they have to sign another quarterback, even though they 106 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: invested heavily in one and potentially found another that are 107 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: both young. They better signed somebody, you know, but who's 108 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: gonna want to go there? Nobody, right, right, So that's 109 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of questionable. Philadelphia. They do San franci As a 110 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: number one defense, which adds up. Yeah, Philadelphia number five. 111 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose more than the game they are, but 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: they had the kind of roster I mean that could 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: handle that. Yeah, they have two first round draft picks. True, 114 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: I mean I'm putting them ahead of Yeah, for sure, 115 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: the next one. The next one is the one Miami 116 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: is number six. Yeah, that does not with two quarterback 117 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: they're twenty five million dollars over the salary cap. They're 118 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: not adding to their team this offseason. Oh no, I 119 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: mean I'm looking at and then on a first round 120 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: draft pick. Now on first round pick two had just 121 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: got out of concussion protocol. They haven't played a game 122 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: in two months or something. Nobody's talking about you know, 123 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: everyone's thought about extending Burrow and Herbert and Herds. Nobody 124 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: mentions to his name. He's in the same draft class. 125 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this chart that has columns for how 126 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: much cap space do you have? How much draft capital 127 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: do you have an ability to create more cap space? 128 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: They combine all those. Yeah, Dolphins are thirty seconds. They 129 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: have the least offseason resources in the whole league. Yeah, 130 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: they are what they are. They're not they're not making 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: major changes. This offseason already happened. And the bottom line 132 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: is they stumbled into the playoffs last year. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 133 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: I mean I just don't see them being the number 134 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: six overall team in the league, right, I mean, you know, 135 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: if they were, if they were between ten and fifteen, 136 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, I get that, Yeah yeah, I 137 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: mean I get that they're over the Steelers. I mean, 138 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: this isn't a Steeler conversation. But now if this was 139 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Bengals Nation Radio, I'd be a little perturbed. Oh yeah, 140 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: because Cincinnati is the next number seven, um and offensively, 141 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: they have the Bengals behind Miami Dolphins. Yeah, they also 142 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: had the Bengals behind Baltimore offensively, one doesn't add up. 143 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Baltimore's best days on offense last year weren't 144 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: as good as Miami's best days on offense. And I 145 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: still trust the Bengals seventeen games worth to be a 146 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: better offense and both those. Yeah, Now that also assumes 147 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: that the Bengals do get their offensive line issues fixed. Yeah, 148 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna make some changes, but they also 149 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: could cut Joe Mixon, and they have safety issues and 150 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and if they get borrow a new contract. 151 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's all kinds of stuff that happen. Alice 152 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: is number eight. You buy in Dallas. Eight. They have 153 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: Dallas is a second best defense projected. Yeah, I'm not 154 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: sure I'm quite there on their defense, but yeah, I'm 155 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: fine with them being eight. Detroit number nine, You buy 156 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: in Detroit at nine. They haven't the seventh best offense, 157 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: the twenty eighth best defense, which is by far the 158 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: lowest of any defense. Is thus that we've talked about 159 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: thus far. Mhm um. I think they're a team on 160 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the rise. They have two first round picks. If you 161 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: ask me, do you think they'll if this is their 162 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Vegas odds will they be over or under the ninth 163 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: best DEVO team went DVOA team. When said and done, 164 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I would definitely go under. Yeah, getting worse, not a 165 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,359 Speaker 1: lower number, I mean worse. Uh, Seattle is then tenth. 166 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not buying Seattle ten. You think Gino Smith? 167 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Can Gino do it again? Because he tailed off at 168 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the end of like the first ten games, Gino was fine, Yeah, 169 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: the last seven Gino was not fine. Nuts. What I 170 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: was gonna say is I think he was more what 171 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: he usually is the last two months or so of 172 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the season, better than that, but not by leaps bounds. Yeah, 173 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: and again the thirteenth best defense twenty first, I'm sorry, 174 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: thirteen best offense twenty first on defense that gets you 175 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: to to being the tenth best team in the league. 176 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: I see Detroit and Seattle being neck and neck. I mean, 177 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to lump those two teams in. 178 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: They both seem to be going in the right direction. 179 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Played a lot of young guys with two first round picks, 180 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: sort of stability at quarterback. But I don't think they're 181 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: I think they're both too high. Got Green Bay at 182 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: eleven with Aaron Rodgers. Is their quarterback. I don't think 183 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: he'll be their quarterback, but I wouldn't fight him on 184 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: that if he's the quarterback. If it's love, I think 185 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: they're like twenty yeah, yeah, exactly at twelve is Jacksonville. 186 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Here's the problem Jacksonville now has. 187 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is like thirty million dollars over the cap. Oh. Yeah, 188 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: they're in trouble. They gotta cut guys. Their days of 189 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: buying are over. Yeah, I mean they're gonna have to draft. Well, 190 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: they're not picking first overall anymore. So they need they 191 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: need Trevor Lawrence to become a superstar. Yes, they do 192 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: now if the mix, which is kind of interesting, Yeah, 193 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: he has that capability. Yeah, but he's not there yet. No, no, 194 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: he's not. But I'm I probably would have them around 195 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: twelve though. Yeah. Then we get to the Steelers at thirteenth. Yeah, 196 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Fourteenth on offense, eleventh on defense? Are you 197 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: buying that? I don't think I would trade ten defenses 198 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. I think you'd take it. If they're 199 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: fourteenth on offense, I would say fourteenth on offense is 200 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: based off of obviously a very very good stretch during 201 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Dvoa was great, EPA 202 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: was great, all those things. I still have my doubts 203 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: that there'll be a slightly above average offense next year. Yeah. 204 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: So they're ranked right ahead of both the Chargers and 205 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Broncos on this list, the Broncos being fourteenth the Chargers fifteenth. 206 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: If we look at this in terms of the schedule ranking, 207 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers according to this are eighteenth going in the 208 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: next year. Well, they've been one or two the last 209 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: two years, right, right, So when we talk about the 210 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: team making improvements, and this is the one that drives 211 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: me nuts. I continue to see this, Well, the Steelers 212 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: they didn't beat anybody last year. They snuck up on 213 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the on the Bengals in Week one, and then they 214 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: didn't beat a good team the rest of the year. 215 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: You beat who's on your schedule. First of all, they 216 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: did beat the Bengals last year. That did count. Last 217 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: time I checked in the standings, Sure, and they also 218 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: beat And I get it. So the Ravens were playing 219 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: without Lamar Stealers still went down and beat them. Well, 220 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: I made the argument, and I wasn't taking anything away 221 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: from the Eagles, but when they went to the Super Bowl. 222 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I said, they played the league's easy schedule. They got 223 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: a gift by play the Giants, and then they got 224 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: a gift by the Niners quarterbacks. It's getting hurt, right. 225 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: Those are facts, So okay. You can make the argument, 226 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, or for the Steelers that they 227 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: don't have great wins on their resume last year, but 228 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: they had the first hardest schedule as opposed to the 229 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Eagles having the thirty second hardest schedule, you know what 230 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, would have made people feel differently about 231 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: the way the Steelers season went if they had, instead 232 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: of starting two and six and playing that ridiculous schedule, 233 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: started six and two and played you know, the Carolinas 234 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta's earlier in the year, right, and then kind 235 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: of split from their out or whatever, you know, or 236 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: just staggered the Bills in each In fact that all 237 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: those games were bunched together and they lost them, I 238 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: think it's kind of tainted how people look at the season. 239 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: If you look at anybody's season in the NFL, you're 240 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna lose to You're gonna lose to the really good teams. 241 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Even the really good team lose to each other. I 242 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: mean Washington. You know, the Chiefs lost the Buffalo and 243 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Cincinnati last year. Does anybody say, well, yeah, but they 244 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: didn't they didn't beat the Bengals or no, they were, 245 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: they weren't the super Bowl, right right, but the same way, 246 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: but they didn't beat the Bills or the Bengals. I'll 247 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: also argue that last year there was only like five 248 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: or six good teams, So if it didn't beat one 249 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: of them, then you're one of the many teams that 250 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: don't have a great win on your schedule. And the 251 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Steelers did beat one of them, then they did be 252 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: one of them, right right, So you know you beat 253 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: who you beat. As you mentioned Denver and the Chargers, 254 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: then you got the Jets, and the Jets of the 255 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Denver is the sixteenth best offense would be a largely, huge, huge, huge. 256 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: They also have Denver with the ninth best defense. I 257 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: don't know, they're not adding to that this year, no, no, no, 258 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: And they don't have first round they don't have draft picks. No, 259 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: they do not new coach though that's fine, but yeah, 260 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: you know they also playing a ridiculo you know, are 261 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: they the third best team in that conference? That division? Actually? 262 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: According to this, they'd be the second best team. They're 263 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the second best team in the division. I don't think so. 264 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are. But the Chargers, for the 265 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: sake of their jobs, better not end up fifteenth. It's 266 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: all said done. The fifteenth offense, fifteenth defense, fifteenth overall. 267 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Guess that adds up. The Jets are on there. They're 268 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the first team with an unknown at quarterback. They have 269 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff, so I don't have a 270 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: real problem with them being here. I might have them 271 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: lower with an unknown. Where would you have them if 272 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: it was Car? Where would you have them if it 273 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: was Rogers? Uh? Car? I don't think changes anything, Okay, Rogers. 274 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: They might flip flop, maybe maybe with green Bay. I 275 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: think Detroit and Seattle are too high. Yeah, I would 276 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: think the Jets with Rogers over those two teams. Yeah, 277 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, so, I'm looking at you know, 278 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: green Bay right now is eleventh. Hum well, if you 279 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: subtracted Rogers made him love and they're gonna be again, 280 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna be down in the twenties. Yeah, Yeah, And 281 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: I think the Jets bump up maybe ahead of maybe 282 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: ahead of Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. Certainly ahead of Detroit and Seattle. 283 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I think they're in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, they're saying 284 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as a Giants quarterback, I guess that's who 285 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: I would pencil in there, but I guess so. I'm 286 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: looking at this the difference between the Chargers and Broncos. 287 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: The Chargers have the sixth hardest schedule next year. The 288 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: Broncos have the twenty first. Okay, so that they're factoring 289 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: that in as well. Miami is the number three schedule 290 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: next year hardest. Yeah, okay, so they better be the 291 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, fifth or sixth best team if they're gonna 292 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, play out to that level of schedule. Uh, 293 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: talk at that price. Yeah, the Giants seventeen, New England eighteen. 294 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm not buying that. No. I might real big on 295 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: either one of those teams plays the number two toughest 296 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: schedule next year, New England does, Yeah, so Mac Jones 297 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: would better make a huge leap forward. The Rams then 298 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: are nineteenth. Cleveland at twenty. Let's talk about the Browns 299 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, Matt, Yeah, there, I think that's where 300 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: they belong, maybe lower. They're eighteen on offense, twenty third 301 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: on defense, and they play the eleventh or fifteenth hard 302 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: to schedule. Next year, I think the offense has a 303 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: chance to be pretty good. I mean, I think they'll 304 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: run the ball well. I don't know they'll ever be 305 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: happy about Watson, but I do think he's gonna be 306 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: better than he was to end the season. I think 307 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: the defense is gonna be worse. I think the defense 308 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: will be worse. They've got no they can't add anything 309 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: to it. All their linebackers that they had last year, 310 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: that the crappy line. As bad as their linebackers were, 311 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: they're all free agents, I know, and it's a problem. 312 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: And they don't have a first round picks as bad 313 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: as their defensive tackles were last year. Like, you're stuck 314 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: with those guys. I know they're they're they're gonna have 315 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: a hard time adding to it. And they can't afford 316 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: Clowney this year. Now he's leaving. Yeah, So you know 317 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: if even if you cut do something like cut Johnson 318 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: John Johnson, well then you got to replace him. They 319 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: don't have guys waiting in the wing post. Six up. 320 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: You're counting on Watson to be superstar. You know, you 321 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: got a lot of issues last year. Was their window 322 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 1: last year? Was there window? And they blew it? I mean, 323 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: I think they could be twentieth next year, but I 324 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: don't think so Green Bay with Jordan's Love or Cleveland 325 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: green Bay. I think the roster is better, much better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 326 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: not to mention, if you would be Jordan's Love, you'd 327 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: pick up something for Rogers in the mix as well, 328 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: right right at twenty one or the Titans. I'm not 329 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: in on them at all. I hear you, but I 330 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: don't know that any of these other teams below them 331 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: you can get above them. It's bad. Yeah, I see 332 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: what you're saying, though I do disagree. Maybe rookies at 333 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: quarterback with one team that's on here potentially, so Tampa 334 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: Bay is next at twenty two, unknown at quarterback. Then 335 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: he got in New Orleans at twenty three unknown at quarterback. Sure, Minnesota, 336 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: they were always hard on Minnesota, even they were like 337 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: one lost team. But they're better than this, They're better 338 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: than that. I mean they have I give them an 339 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: equal chance as the Lions to win that division. Yeah, 340 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm if I'm looking at things right 341 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: now as we sit here, and you say, which team 342 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: is gonna have more wins next year, Denver or Minnesota 343 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: take a Minnesota, oh yeah, or Tennessee or the Giant 344 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: steven or some of these other teams we've mentioned. I'll 345 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: definitely take the Vikings over them. Yeah. I think they 346 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: hired a pretty good defensive coordinator too, right, so you 347 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: know they should be better. Chicago is twenty five, Washington 348 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: twenty six, Atlanta twenty seven. And that's what Sam Howard 349 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: is a quarterback, That's what Sam Allan wins with. Desmond 350 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Ritter Arizona Kyler Murray is twenty eighth. Boy, that's that 351 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: would be a disappointment. Then you got four teams that 352 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: are gonna have rookie starting Houston, Indianapolis, Carolina, Las Vegas. 353 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: I think Carolina's last. First of all, I think Carolina 354 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: is going to sign a veteran to start, and I 355 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: think they'll be better than this. I think Carolina and 356 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: Vegas won't be the worst two teams in the league. Yeah. 357 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Vegas is the worst, right right, right, 358 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna start. I think they're gonna 359 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: blow things up a little bit. M Yeah, I don't know. 360 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: I think India is better than this too. I mean, 361 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: I think you have an infrastructure and better coaching, and 362 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know who I think to be 363 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. I guess it would 364 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: probably be Houston again, but you mentioned how Arizona would 365 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: be disappointing, but Kyler is probably not gonna be ready 366 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: for a while. That's true. Good point by you. Yeah, 367 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: they could be the worst team in the league. They could, 368 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: They absolutely could. I don't think anybody really wanted the job. 369 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, right now in DVOA, Vegas is a minus 370 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: fifteen point two. Carolina they have at minus twelve point one, 371 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: so they have Vegas by a wide margin being the 372 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: worst team in the league. Okay, what's interesting is I 373 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: just noticed is the four teams with rookie quarterbacks they 374 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: gave the exact same offensive DVOA two and they're all okay, yeah, 375 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's a fair way of doing it, 376 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: especially because you don't even know the names, right, But 377 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: you got Washington at thirty two. Pretty hard commanders though, well, 378 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Washington also plays the number one hardest schedule next year. 379 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Atlanta looks like they play the easiest, and 380 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: that's another reason why you put Vegas all the way 381 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: down there. They played the fourth hardest schedule. Yeah, well 382 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: that adds up then second. Yeah yeah, I mean again, 383 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: free agency hasn't happened. Of course, the draft hasn't happened. 384 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: All these teams. This this will look different once they 385 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: put this all together in July and come up with 386 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: their preseason DVOA rankings. But as we sit here today, 387 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, according to DVOA on the Football Outsiders, the 388 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: seventh best team in the AFC. Seventh, okay, and that's 389 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: somebody checked. They take seven to the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, 390 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: I have no problem with the Steeler ranking. I mean, 391 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that the offense will be fourteenth, but 392 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: I bet the defense is better than eleventh. It looks 393 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: to me they just cut and pasted the special teams ranks. Yeah, 394 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: I think that's what you don't know. And I'm sure 395 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: they're and I have no right to what I would 396 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: do too. But you know, if you look at the 397 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: tomlin era or the last five years or the last 398 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: ten years, usually if the Steelers average out, DVOA wise 399 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: to be about thirteenth or fourteenth in special teams DVOA. Yeah, 400 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: they're twenty seventh here, Well, they missed more kicks. They 401 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: missed more kicks than anybody in the league last year. Yeah, yeah, 402 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean I bet they go back to the medium. 403 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's basically who they've been. Yeah, I mean, 404 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: do you really think the steel I think they missed 405 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: eleven field goal attempts last year. That'll be six or 406 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, so it'll balance out. So yeah, I 407 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: mean again, and I think you know you're going to 408 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: add for the Steelers some quality pieces to that, and 409 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's funny like the team ahead of him, Jacksonville, 410 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: team behind him Denver are gonna lose more than they add. 411 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: The Steelers are going to add more than they lose. Yeah, 412 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: So and you expect Kenny Pickett to make Yeah, yeah, 413 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: we'll leap forward. You can now listen to Steelers Nation 414 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Radio anytime anywhere through your smart speaker. 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