1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four and then 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on iHeart. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: App as well. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: Since it's Friday, we got moistline people will be featured 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: three twenty and three point fifty later this afternoon. And 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: also we've got Gavin Newsom announcing announcing an even bigger 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: budget deficit. They've blown so much money on so much garbage, 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: they can't keep up with all the cuts that they 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: need to do. So the whole thing is exploding in 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: his handsome, stupid face, and we're going to talk about it. Also, 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: one of the news sites set up a Gavin Newsom 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: bingo game in advance of the speech, listening a couple 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: of dozen of his favorite phrases that he used, that 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: weird techno speak jargon that nobody understands, tries to pass 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: himself off as an intellectual. We'll we'll play that, play 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: that game coming up, all right, So you know we're 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: we're headed towards the finale soon of the Trump trial 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: with Michael Cohen probably next week is going to be testifying, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: but there were still more details to go through today 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: in between Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen, and we got 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Peter Haralumbus from ABC News who's been following following the 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: case in New York City. Peter, how are you? I 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: don't hear him. I hear a hum. 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Can hear me right now? I can hear you, Peter, 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: how are you? 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm good? Thanks for having me. 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So we're kind of in between zone here between 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen's coming up for much the 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: next week. 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Correct, that's correct. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: But you're completely right. We're in the final stretch of 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: this case, just the days, a few days left in 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: the government's case here. The only real major witness left 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: of the two outstanding state witnesses is Michael Cohen, who 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: could take the witness stand as early as Monday, and 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: who could be on the witness stand for days as 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: prosecution tries to use him to kind of develop their 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: cases in many ways to start witness in this case, 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: and then defense lawyers attempt to go after his credibility 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: in any way they can. 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: What I personally am having trouble figuring out what the 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: big multi felony crime is here. Can you run through 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: for people, because I don't think a lot of people 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: understand that we've got a misdemeanor that they have connected 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: to a felony and the felony is election interference. Can 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: you explain how that works? Because next week, I assume 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: the prosecution is finally going to get into that part 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: of the case. 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, and the jury is going 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: to have to wrap their heads around it sometime in 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: the next few weeks when they begin deliberating. But fundamentally, 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: the thirty four counts in this case are falsifying business records. 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: That's a felony offense here in New York when it's 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: charged in conjunction or in furtherance excuse me of an 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: additional crime. So when you look at the actual indictment, 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: it lists thirty four counts of different business records that 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: prosecutors say Trump falsified. So we're talking about basically ledger entries, checks, 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: and invoices. These were documents used to repay Michael Cohen 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen for a hush money payment he made 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: to Stormy Daniels ahead of the twenty sixteen election. So 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: those are documents. Fundamentally, it's the document's case, But prosecutors 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: say all of that activity was used to kind of 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: hide what they say it's criminal conduct before the twenty 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: sixteen election, when Trump and David Pecker, the former publisher 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: of the National Inquirer, and Michael Cohen got together in 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: a room and said we're going to look out from 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: negative stories about Trump and kill those stories. The big 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: story that got killed that we've heard a ton about 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: over the last week is Stormy Daniel's allegations of an 73 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: affair with Donald Trump. That was the kind of reason 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: for that one hundred and thirty thousand dollars payments in 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: the days ahead of the twenty sixteen election, and that 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: was the payment that Trump was reimbursing Michael Cohen for 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: So they're trying to make the case that trying to 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: bury negative stories in a political campaign is illegal, is 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: election interference. I mean, I would think every major candidate 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: has done that since the beginning of time. If there's 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: something bad out there, you have to find a way 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: to keep it a secret. 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean, fundamentally, that's Trump's lawyer, Trump's defense here there. 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: His lawyers have been upfront from day one of this 86 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: trial telling the jury that, you know, politics is a 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: game of killing negative stories in a way, and that 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: there's nothing illegal about signing a non disclosure agreement. I 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: guess the thing though, for the jur here is that 90 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: they don't really have a legal question in front of them. 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: The judge is going to give the jury very clear 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 3: instructions on what the law says and how they should 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: interpret it. Even though there might be lawyers on this jury, 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: you know, there are a few These twelve jurors who 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: begin deliberating in a matter of weeks, will kind of 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: avoid the legal question. All they'll have to figure out 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: is the factual one and what they believed Trump's intent 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: was when he was agreeing with Michael Cohen and David 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: Pecker to identify and kill negative stories, and what he 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: was thinking and doing after the twenty sixteen election when 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: he was signing checks in the overall office to repay 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: Michael Cohen. But I completely see your points, and defense 103 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: lawyers have consistently raised this argument that there's nothing wrong 104 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: with killing a negative story or signing in NBA agreements 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: per se. It's a matter of kind of if it's 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: done in conjunction with another crime like falsifying business. 107 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Records, right, and that particular myss to deaner, I keep 108 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: hearing the statute of limitations had run out on it 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: unless you connected to the felony of election interference, but 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: standing on its own, too much time has lapsed since 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: the since the incident. 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean the judge you know, had the 113 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to throw out the case months ago based on 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: that legal argument that the statute implementations that had run out, 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: that this wasn't a felony offense, and in his eyes, 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: the prosecution's theory, the legal theory at least behind the 117 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: case is functional, and that's why this case is at 118 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: the point where you know, Donald Trump is in a 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: court room on a daily basis. It's interesting though, today 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: we heard for kind of the first time that the 121 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: judge wants to start hearing instructions on the charge, which 122 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: is kind of legal instructions that he will give the 123 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: jury after the closing statement. That was interesting because one 124 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: it shows that this trial is coming to an end soon, 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: and two that's going to be a critical moment of 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: the trial. Basically, what instructions the jury has will be 127 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: incredibly significant in terms of how they deliberate in the 128 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: final decision they make in terms of Trump's innocence or guilt. 129 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Very strange trial. 130 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously a lot of people think this is 131 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: just a political hit job, and I'm just fascinated by 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: how they created the scaffolding of a misdemeanor turned into 133 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: thirty four felonies to give it some legitimacy. 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: But that's, I don't know, pretty wobbly. 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: Scaffolding, especially in the context of you know, the jury 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: just heard two days of testimony from a porn star 137 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: who alledgishiated an affair with the former president. So you know, 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: it's hard to come back to the fact that this 139 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: is a document's case, but fundamentally that's the jury's question 140 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: their days or weeks away from beginning to deliberate. 141 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Peter, thanks very much, Talk with you again soon. Thanks 142 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: so much, John, Say Peter Harlambus from ABC News. You know, 143 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: I thought i'd hear this trial play out and listen 144 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: to the case. But you're right if you think this 145 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: is just a political hit job, it absolutely is. There 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: isn't much of a crime here. First of all, the 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: basis the base misdemeanor the statue of limitations expired, and 148 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: that's falsifying business records. And even that, what he wrote 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: down is legal fees on the ledger, which they were. 150 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: I mean, he was reimbursing his attorney who had paid 151 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: off Stormy Daniels. And paying off a woman to keep 152 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: her mouth shut about an affair is not illegal. So 153 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: Michael Cohen fronts the money, Trump reimburses him. It was 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: for legal reasons. But even so, even if you buy 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: the falsification of business records, well, the statute of limitations expired. 156 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: The only way to suspend the statue of limitations if 157 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: you tied it to a felony, and they came up 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: with thirty four felonies like Peter said, you know, writing 159 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: the check, preparing the invoice, writing in the business ledger 160 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: with the what the check was for. So and it 161 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: was a series of checks that went to Cohen to 162 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: reimburse them. 163 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 164 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: But what is it to keep bad keep bad news 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: out of the public eye. I mean, what president hasn't 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: done that. You go through the whole Clinton era just 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: as an example, I mean that was he had a 168 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: whole team to keep all the all the affairs out 169 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: of the public eye. They were paying off people and 170 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: threatening people and making settlements all over that. I just 171 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: don't I don't get it. And why can't you keep 172 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: a private affair private and pay off your pay off 173 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: the woman you were with. I mean, that's not that's 174 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: not illegal because it's a political job. So see how 175 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: it's really gonna come down to if the jury's part 176 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: is in or if all the jurors or parties in 177 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: against Trump or not. 178 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: There's really nothing else to it. More coming up. 179 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: M six forty. 181 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, this just in, or maybe it's this just found. 182 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what time this was posted in 183 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: the San Francisco Chronicle, but uh, er did you find 184 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: this or someone forward this time? 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 186 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 5: I found this as I was scrolling Twitter on the 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: John Cobelt radio page as I do during the show 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: to try and look for a new stories for you. 189 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Well, this is this is terrific. Uh. 190 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: It turns out for a number of years, the city 191 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: of San Francisco has given has been giving homeless. 192 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Drunks free booze. 193 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Tax money has been sent, spent to give drunks booze. 194 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Not making this up. 195 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to read it as is because I just 196 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: got it for a small slice of San Francisco's homeless 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: population that suffers with severe alcohol addiction. Well stop right there, 198 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: what do you mean as small slice? I would think 199 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: most of them are getting blasted. In fact, when that 200 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: homeless encampment sprung up not that far from my house, 201 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: I got to see firsthand what it was really like 202 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: because I drove by it every day. There's a lot 203 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: of people getting blasted on a lot of booze. There 204 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: were always empty whiskey bottles strewn about the small slice. 205 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Who wrote this? What's their name? Saint John Barnard Smith? 206 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: That a person, Saint John barnetd hythened Smith. Oh again 207 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: with the hyphenated people. Hyphenated people are always headaches. And 208 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: the other writer is Maggie Angst perfect name. 209 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 210 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Saint John is a man or a woman who the 211 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: hell knows. But it says that nurses offer treatment not 212 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: in a pill, but in a shot of vodka or 213 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: a glass of beer. This this has been going on 214 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: for a while. It may sound counterintuitive, experts say, you think, 215 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: but it helps keep people off the streets in an 216 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: out of emergency rooms and jails or the morgue. 217 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: I see. 218 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: This is that harm reduction garbage, which is another failed 219 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: progressive concept. They you know, like those programs where they 220 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: give drugs to drug addicts so they won't die. 221 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Now, this give booze to alcoholics. 222 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: Do you know any alcohol addiction program that stipulates that 223 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: booze should be given several times a day to the addict. 224 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm not aware of it. I don't think they do 225 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: that at AA meetings, do they. San Francisco set up 226 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: a managed alcohol program four years ago as a way 227 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: to care for vulnerable, homeless people who drank excessive amounts 228 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: of alcohol, and we're among the city's highed users of 229 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: emergency services. 230 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: They actually do this. 231 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're vulnerable because they don't stop drinking. We're supposed 232 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: to feel sorry for them. They get up every day 233 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: and they choose to drink. There's a billion treatment programs 234 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: out there that we pay for. Since its creation, the program, 235 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: which started out with ten beds, has served fifty five clients. 236 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: Fifty five wow, it's now twenty beds. It costs five 237 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Nurses dispense doses of vodka and beer? 238 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: What brand of vodka and beer for five million bucks 239 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: for twenty people. 240 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: Gotta be Gregor's where they buy their vodka. 241 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Such programs don't focus on sobriety, no kidding, but rather 242 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: on improving patients overall health while decreasing hospital stays and 243 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: calls to police. So if you're a sick, wasted alcoholic, 244 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: San Francisco gives you more booze to be less sick 245 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: and less wasted. This is going on in the Tenderloin, 246 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: but the city's efforts came under scrutiny this week after 247 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: the chair of the board of a local nonprofit that 248 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: pushes abstinence shared posts on social media accusing the city 249 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: of wasting millions of dollars of taxpayer money on a 250 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: program that gives booze to the homeless. Adam Nathan of 251 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: the Salvation Army San Francisco said providing free drugs to 252 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: drug addicts doesn't solve their problem, It just stretches them out. 253 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Where's the recovery in all this? There is no recovery. 254 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: It's just a scam. These are other nonprofits stealing tax 255 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: money with a kakamamy. 256 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Can you imagine. 257 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of crooks in the nonprofit 258 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: business and you can just see them sitting around going, 259 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: I got one. 260 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Why don't we Why don't we give booze to alcoholics? 261 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Okay, let's call it harm reduction, great idea, And let's 262 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: give drugs to drug addicts and call it harm reduction. Excellent. 263 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: We can have two nonprofit businesses going on at once. 264 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: I'll be CEO of one, you'd be CEO of the other. 265 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: We both can make six figures and we're gonna do 266 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: harm reduction one to Breed, The mayor said harm reduction 267 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: was not reducing harm, but making things worse. This put 268 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: her at odds with her own public health department, which 269 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: stands by harm reduction as an integral part of the 270 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: agency system of care. See with progressive politics, everything is inverted. 271 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: Everything that doesn't make sense makes sense to them. But again, 272 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: they're just all in on the racket. They're all in 273 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: on the scam. Breed recently tried to open abstinence only 274 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: housing for homeless people near Chinatown, but she had to 275 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: scrap the proposal among neighborhood backlash. I one guy who's 276 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: in recovery from Heroin a guy named Tom Wolfe. Are 277 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: we going to manage people's addiction with our tax money 278 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: in perpetuity forever? It seems like that's what we're saying. 279 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: I think we should be spending that money on detox 280 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: and recovery. Well, no wonder, the homeless crowd just gets 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: bigger and bigger, and thousands die in the streets because 282 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: even the outreach to send them to some kind of 283 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: treatment program, they just treat them with more vodka and 284 00:16:59,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: more beer. 285 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: No wonder they stay homeless. 286 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: Nathan claimed that he came upon an old hotel where 287 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: kegs were set up to give out free beer to 288 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: the homeless. It was set up so people in the 289 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: program could just walk in and grab a beer and 290 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: then another one. 291 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 5: It's like a fraternity party. 292 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: All right, I got bored. We've got to take a break. 293 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 294 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: six forty. 295 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four, and then after four 296 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app 297 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: Sometime later to the show, We're going to talk to 298 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Vince Fong. Vince is Assemblyman, Republican and he's got a 299 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: response to Newsom's budget proposal. 300 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: We've got a big deficit. 301 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Even though we have unbelievably high taxes in this state 302 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: in just about every category where number one are close 303 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: to it, there's not enough money and Newsom is scrambling around. First, 304 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: he keeps lying about the size of the deficit, but 305 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: reality keeps exposing him, and he's got a budget proposal. 306 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: Vince Fong says it's not matching reality, so we'll talk 307 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: to him sometime later in the show. Very busy man. Now, 308 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but this Chronicle article is making me crazy. 309 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: We just found this a few minutes ago. It's a 310 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: whole expose on how the city of San Francisco is 311 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: paying millions of dollars to keep drunks drunk. If you're 312 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: just joining us, the city has a program to keep 313 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: feeding vodka, beer and anything else to the homeless who 314 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: are alcoholics. And they're claiming that this saves money on 315 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: nine one calls and emergency hospital room visits, so it's 316 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: worth spending the money on the booze. And the easy 317 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: answer to that is, actually what would help the homeless 318 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: and save money is to force them into treatment. Because 319 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: public drunkenness is a crime along with all the other 320 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: aborate behavior that goes with it. And the way it 321 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: should work is when you're found drunk on the street, 322 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: you've got two choices. You'll either go to jail or 323 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: we're going to send you to detox treatment, and you 324 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: have to go. And that's how you help them, because 325 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: then they'll get off the booze, you clean out their system, 326 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: and you get them real help. But that's going to 327 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: trigger some people, so listen to this. The program has 328 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: nurses assess the patients that would be the homeless, and 329 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: they will give the equivalent of one to two drinks 330 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: eight four times a day. So they're giving the vagrants 331 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: eight drinks a day, either one point seven ounces of 332 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: vodka or any other liquor. 333 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: So you have your. 334 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: You want vodka, you want bourbon, you want rum, your gin? 335 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: What do you want. 336 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: Either one point seven ounces of liquor or five ounces 337 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: of wine? I guess you got your choice of red 338 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: white rose or twelve ounces of beer. So do they 339 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: walk around with like bar menus? And in addition to 340 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: medication and therapy, the program provides cultural outings. 341 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: You said they've spent what five million dollars of taxpayer 342 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: money on this program. Yes, that's bottle service prices in Vegas. 343 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if any other city in the country is 344 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: doing this now, And it was it was exposed by 345 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: this by this guy, Adam Nathan from the Salvation Army, 346 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: and that organization gets a lot of criticism too about 347 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: the money it spends. But this is really really outrageous. 348 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: This is really out of control. Nuts. So they get 349 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: they get eight drinks a day, any kind of liquor. 350 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: They want wine, beer, Oh. 351 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: So they so they go to cultural outings, but you 352 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: get them drunk. 353 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: And then what do you take into the theater, the ballet, 354 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: the zoo. 355 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: They get the cheap tickets out in the outfield everybody. 356 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 5: Could you imagine all the homeless people in the top 357 00:21:53,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: deck at Dodger Stadium INFLA had this. 358 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: This is San Francisco government, No wonder it's a sewer 359 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: up there. Oh, and they give them life skills classes, 360 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: life skills. Does any of that involve going to get 361 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: a job. And it says that some participants have been 362 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: discharged for a higher level of care or recovery program, 363 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: but some of the participants died after leaving the program 364 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: as a result of their end stage alcoholism, which. 365 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: We paid for. We paid for their death. 366 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: We kept giving them drinks after we knew they were alcoholics, 367 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: and then they leave the program and die. Well, what 368 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: was the point of that. You force them into treatment 369 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: or they go to jail. They'll pick treatment. Wow, this 370 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: is a Canadian idea. They've had forty of these programs 371 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: in Canada. It's a it says. It says doctor Bernie Pauley, 372 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: a researcher who pioneered these programs in Canada. Oh my god, 373 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: he says, it's a better way to spend our money 374 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: than someone being in jail or a hospital where they're 375 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: not getting care for their health needs. I have an 376 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: idea again, force them into treatment or they go to jail. 377 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: That's what you do. 378 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: Or you go to jail and you forced you force 379 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 2: them into detox. I mean, they sink, I'm looking at 380 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: the reporter's name. Oh it's a guy, Saint John Barnard Smith. 381 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: It's a guy. Uh he's and and this this Maggie Angst. 382 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: They don't. 383 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh she covers homelessness, addiction, and mental health. Oh this 384 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: is their specialty beat. Wow, this is cracked. I mean, 385 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: this is absolutely nuts. Eight drinks a day for alcoholics. 386 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. We'm back, We've got I don't know what 387 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: the hell we have whatever, whatever I feel like to it. 388 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 389 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 390 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock. Joe Biden gave an interview 391 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: to CNN. Aaron Burnett was the potted plant, and she 392 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: sat there while Biden, according to The New York Post, 393 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: ripped off seventeen lies in fifteen minutes. Or was it 394 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: fifteen lives in seventeen minutes? It was huh, it was 395 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: fifteen and seventeen, fifteen and seventeen almost a wy a minute. 396 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: He SE's slowing down a bit. And these these were 397 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: real lies. These were whoppers. He was saying things about 398 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: about the economy that were flat out false. We're going 399 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: to play you just a few. We don't have time 400 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: to go through all fifteen. But for the like, she 401 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: would ask questions that were could be a little pointed. 402 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: Then he would give an answer and it would be 403 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: to total horseman door. 404 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: And she wouldn't. And it's easily challenged. 405 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you get a politician which I don't 406 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: like interviewing them most of the time because you know 407 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: they'll throw out all kinds of horse crap, and you 408 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: can't be a human wikipedia and respond to every lie 409 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: in real time, and you have no idea which way 410 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna veer and what lies they're going to tell, 411 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: and how extensive the lies they're going to be. So 412 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: it's why nobody should interview politicians. But these were whoppers. 413 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: We'll start with the inflation rate and then I'll be 414 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: coming up after two o'clock, so be there for that. 415 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about Gavin Newsom's budget being 416 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: upside down, not only wildly bloated, but wildly in deficit. 417 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: They're gushing red Incup and Sacramento because they created a 418 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: whole bunch of nonsense programs. 419 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: They're blowing a lot of money on them, and. 420 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: Now they're going to have to cut him because I 421 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: don't think anybody's in the move for trying to pass 422 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: a tax increase this year. And here's one of the 423 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: reasons that the that that tax revenues are way down. 424 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: Four hundred and eighty two thousand people in California lost 425 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: their jobs in the last year. The year up to 426 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: March thirty. First, I take the one year period from 427 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: April of twenty twenty three to March of twenty twenty four, 428 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: and four hundred and eighty two thousand people got the 429 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: bad news. That's a lot of people, and that was 430 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: number one in the nation. Now we have the biggest 431 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: population in the nation. Sure, but even so it was outsized, disproportionate, 432 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: I think is the word that all the progressives like 433 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: to use. 434 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: This was it was unequal. 435 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: Texas was second, New York third, Illinois fourth, Florida fifth. 436 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: It was the biggest percentage of job cuts in the 437 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: last seven quarters. These these job losses were sixteen percent 438 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: of the total in the United States. We're only twelve 439 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: percent of the population. See, it's disproportionate. We have more 440 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: job losses than we should have if things were proportionate. 441 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: There was only six states that performed worse than California 442 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: over the last over the last ten years. The only 443 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: states that were worse were Idaho, New Jersey, Texas, Utah, 444 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: New York, and Colorado. So there's there's a there's a 445 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: there's a there's a lot of job losses. We also 446 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: have really high inflation. So if I've lost your job. 447 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: You've lost ground because wages in California are not keeping 448 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: up with the inflation increases. And this all leads to 449 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: a huge shortage of tax money, which is what we're 450 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: going to get into sometime in the next hour or 451 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: two because Newsom was trying, Oh do some is trying 452 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: to patch this and he's going into the reserves. Do 453 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: you know what we're spending? You know, we were spending 454 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 2: over three hundred billion dollars a year, three hundred and 455 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: ten billion dollars last year. I remember when Schwarzenegger was governor, 456 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: and that's not that long ago, that only goes back 457 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen years. His budget was one hundred billion. How 458 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: did they triple the size of government in fourteen years? 459 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: Well by giving away money to everybody in sight. Now 460 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: we have a cradle to grave healthcare for every illegal 461 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: alien in the state. You got that for starters. All right, 462 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: we come back. We're going to go through Joe Biden. 463 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: You could you could you could tell how weak a 464 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: journalist is if the White House chooses you for one 465 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: of the very few one on one sit downs with 466 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Biden has done next to none of these 467 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. In fact, you know, as we go 468 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: through his lies, you wonder are they lies or maybe 469 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: he really believes this because he's senile, Because there was 470 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: a way to answer this question and try to spin 471 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: it to make yourself look good, it's the inflation question. Instead, 472 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: he just flat out made up a reality that doesn't exist, 473 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: and so is it because he's seen Nile and he 474 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: really believes it. He doesn't remember the circumstances when he 475 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: took office. I don't know, but the White House new 476 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 2: that Aaron Burnett at CNN wasn't going to challenge him 477 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: on it. Now was that a pre made agreement? Did 478 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: the bosses at CNN tell Aaron Burnett don't challenge him. 479 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: Just let the old guy say whatever he wants to say. 480 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: We want to get the quick rating hit and everyone 481 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: will forget by the next day. I mean, That's what 482 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: an anchor at ESPN said a couple of weeks ago. 483 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: She had to do an interview sit down with Biden 484 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: on satellite, and the bosses at ESPN and ABC News 485 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: and all the way up to Bob Eiger at Disney 486 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: all told her follow this script doesn't matter how he 487 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: answers you follow this script and don't challenge him, and 488 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: there's no follow ups and there's no nothing. And so 489 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: everybody was in on the fake interview. Was Stage Steele 490 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: who made that claim, and she was very detailed. I 491 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: don't think it was just a claim. I think she 492 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: was telling the truth. So did Aaron Burnett. She have to, 493 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean, is that what journalists have to do when 494 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: the bosses say, Okay, we're going to do a fake 495 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: public relations interview for the president. The White House wants 496 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: it this way, this, this, I mean, this is communist 497 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: China stuff, right, this is so see it in now 498 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: like a state news ren agency. I don't know how 499 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: any news person sitting there with Biden starting to tell 500 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: the lies that he told not stand up and go 501 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: wait a second, hold on not doing this or I 502 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: mean you really you're going to get fired for challenge 503 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: you to the president on a whopping lie. And I 504 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: haven't even brought up the double standard with Trump. I'm 505 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: just saying factually, we'll get to it next. We've got 506 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: Debs off today. Ashley Johnson is hiding the KFI twenty 507 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: for our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John 508 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. 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