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Great channel to search Fox Sports Radio 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: on YouTube and subscribe. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: Good morning, Danny, d. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: V A D. What's going on? Cause how we doing? Brother? 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: We're good? 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: You know we Uh, we're going to get into our 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: subject today and it has to do with recruits and 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: coaches and coaches that get fired maybe in a happy valley. 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: But before we do that, because we're just sports fans, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: right and you are a sports fan. You got in 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: to athletics because of that, can we take a moment 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: to honor shohey Otani and one of the greatest feats 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: that we've ever seen in the greatest feet I've ever seen, 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: three home runs of the game, ten strikeouts and the dub. 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: He's a specimen, and I mean it's it's crazy. I mean, 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 5: I know he's been quiet through his playoffs, but I 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: mean to have that ability to do that, it's I mean, 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: I've never seen it, right in my lifetime. And you know, 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 5: people say having with Babe Ruth, right, I mean it's crazy. 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 5: I mean to go three for three with three home 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: runs and then on the other side it just deal 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 5: like that to be you know, six innings, ten k's, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 5: I mean two hits. 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: Never been seen in my lifetime, and I don't know 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: if ever to this level. 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, no, we're because we've never seen a pitcher and 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: a hitter. Not since you know Ruth have we seen that, right, 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: So you know that back during that era. 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was such a special thing and 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: a guy is just an absolute specimen. 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it changes. 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: It may maybe this becomes where kids, you know, for 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 5: so long people just focused I'm a pitcher, I don't 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: really you know, I don't take reps in the cage, right, 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: I I just. 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: Focus on pitching. 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it starts to move the needle a little 48 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: bit and kids, you know, try to be multi faceted 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 5: in baseball, like that. 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: Well. 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: It's funny because a lot of your best kids it's 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: either your shortstop or a pitching right and even from 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: a from a kid age, it is weird because you'll 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: see kids who you know can throw, who maybe not 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: be the best athlete, but it can throw so then 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: and they're not asked to do much. Although in youth, 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: in youth baseball, you know everybody's got hit you with baseball, 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: so you're you're looking to hit. 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but he's not just a pitcher, I mean, 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: the dude throws a hundred, right, I mean, it's he's 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: he's not just he's not just as average a bag. 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: He's like, you know, he's an athlete too. 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's a forty to forty guy. It's it's 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: it's really, it's so impressive. And as a Phillies fan, 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: it's a little disheartening, you know, watching being so close 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: and playing him some close and than seeing them just 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 5: absolutely demolish the Brewers looking making it look pretty easy. 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: So it's hurts Mahart. 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: A little bit, but as a sports fan, it was, 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: it's truly so impressive to see things. 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: Like that happen. 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: It is, it really is. 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: I just wanted to pay home homage to show hey, 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: it was awesome, man, incredible fitter. I was watching football 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: and going back on the baseball right because look, the 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: series is that you kind of know the dods you're 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: gonna win. So I was kind of going back and 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: then and then I caught the second home run, and 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: then like, I follow on my phone, so I'm like, 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: all right, let me let me see what are you 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: gonna do? 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: He can't hit another one. 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: I was colame, Oh my god, and this wing is 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it's so pretty man, It's just it is. 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: I'm a lefty, so I love the left guys on 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: the left side. 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: That's why you're a good golfer. That's why you're a 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: good guy. For your a lefty. 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: I'm a lefty. 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: You got God's gift. 91 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 5: Man. 92 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: It's funny. 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 5: I still met handed, but it's all left in sports, 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 5: right right handed, all left sports. 95 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: So I don't know how it happened. 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: But you so you write and eat right handed correct. 97 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny, that's actually the proper thing 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: because your right hand is dominant. Yes, so if your 99 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: right hand is dominant, it's your power hand. 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: It should be you should hit right handed. Yeah, because 101 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: if you think. 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: About your power strength, your strength is coming from your 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: right hand. That should be your top hand going away. 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense, you. 105 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: Know, like it should be your your your hand where 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: your top hands are guide hand, right, Yeah, your bottom 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: hand is your power hand and it should be that. 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: And it's funny because it's the I'm like right handed, 109 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: but my dominant hand is my right hand. It's way 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: it's way stronger. But you know, your left hand you 111 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: got to garner as your top hand on a swing 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: for your power. 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: Yep. And it's not optimal. 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: A lot of sense. Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, I've been it's lucky. You always get a 116 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: little vantage besctally in sports. You know people you know 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: you're you're in the minority, so you get a little 118 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: they're a little you got to figure you out at first, 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: so initially you get a little, a little advantage. 120 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: All right, So we talk about kids and youth sports. 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: To tie Massimo's right. 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: Hand behind his back, I love it because I wanted 123 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: him to be a lefty. 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: But it didn't work. 125 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really me, but. 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: Worked out. It did work out for you. 127 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: That's why because all those big nil deals that you 128 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: do on the golf course. It works, it works, all right, 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Let's get into the program for a second, because there's 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: something that's gnawing at me and I kind of want 131 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: to I want your take on this and to figure 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: this out because one of the things I didn't think 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: about and I haven't thought about is when coaches get fired. Right, 134 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: So coaches get fired and it happens all the time, 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: and kids decommit. Well, now there's money involved, lots of money. Yes, 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: So let's take what happened the Penn State. The ultimately 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: collapse happened in Happy Valley. I mean, when you think 138 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: about it, and we put shockwaves through the world, through 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: the college football world where James Franckle gets fired on 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: Friday on Monday. 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was crazy, and it's very rare at the 142 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: big programs like Penn State that happen mid season. But 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: sometimes you got to do it right. So it's very rare. 144 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: It's it's uncharted water for a lot of big programs 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 5: to make that move, but it happened. And I think 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 5: as an ad sometimes you just got to pull the 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 5: band aid off. 148 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: And when things are going down, I mean, if the. 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: Team's not getting up and you're losing games to winless teams, 150 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: and you know you're coming home on homecoming weekend and 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: you're losing the you know, teams that talent you're not 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: in the same building. 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: It's tough. So if you lose the team, it's tough 154 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: to get back from that. So I understand, you know 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: why they had to make the. 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: Move, But in today's world, the ripple effects are crazy, right, 157 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: So for cases like PSU, they lost a lot of recruits. 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: Even when they started losing games. 159 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: Right the twenty seven class where they had an elite 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: you know, they had a five start running back number 161 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: one in the country. He decommitted why they were losing right, 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 5: and they opened up his recruitment said. 163 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even know that he did that. 164 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: He did that after they lost to UCLA. Wow, But 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: he's a twenty twenty seven. So for the twenty sixth class. 166 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: It's interesting because some kids in certain states can start 167 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 5: getting paid in high school. So once you start taking 168 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 5: the money, it's harder to get out of. Those contracts 169 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 5: are even firmer than you know, the national attention. 170 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: So if you're if you're collecting the check and you're 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: in high school, I mean out of it now spurned 172 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: the people giving you money. 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed, So it's very difficult to navigate that, right. 174 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: They did lose twenty six recruits. 175 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: So some kids in some states you can't collect money, 176 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: have to wait till you get to college. Right, so 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 5: they have the ability to still, you know, get out 178 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: of their commitment. And you're seeing it happen. Some have 179 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: stayed some of the recruits. And Penn State had to 180 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 5: know that, right, they had to know that this was 181 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: something that could happen and will happen. Every power school 182 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 5: is going to be all over Power five schools is 183 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: going to be over their recruits and their roster. 184 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: It's just the nature of the beast. So it's always 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: important to you. 186 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: Know, to the vultures out they're gonna be coming in. 187 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to be having assistant coaches, people reaching 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: out to their families. 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: It's going to be it's the wild West out there. 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 5: I mean, I read an article the other day it 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: said there's a bit about one point nine billion in 192 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 5: NIL deals in twenty twenty five. One point five one 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 5: point nine billion. That that's crazy, and one point four 194 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 5: of it comes from direct revenue sharing with the athletic departments. 195 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: You know, two hundred and ninety million are coming from 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: these commercial and eye ideals which are coming from you. 197 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: Know, outside agencies or you know, part of their collective. 198 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: Two hundred and thirteen million of it is directly straight 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: from the collective. So it's there's so much money being 200 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: poured into this and to see these kids now trying 201 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 5: to have to navigate it when coach they're leaving and 202 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: it puts them in a different type of spot. 203 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: So depending on what player you. 204 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: Are, what contract you sign with these schools depends on 205 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: if you're able to stay or leave. 206 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know what the issue is too. 207 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: That the new coach comes in and you know, if 208 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: they didn't they didn't recruit you, they may not you 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: may not want to be a fit for their offense 210 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: or what kind of scheme they want to run on defense. 211 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen it happen with high level kids, and 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: it's tough, especially for the younger guys because you don't 213 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: have tape in college to prove. So if the coach 214 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: comes in and you're not fitting his scheme, you got 215 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: to go down. Like I've seen it at high level, 216 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 5: I've had you know, student athletes that I was close 217 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 5: with in the last couple of years that went to 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: Power five schools. 219 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: A coaching shift. 220 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: Comes in and he says, hey, you're not a fit 221 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: for my thing, my culture, right with my scheme, like 222 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: you just said, they have to drop down to two 223 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: three levels of college football and the transfer portal because 224 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: they don't have any tape. They were a freshman, they 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: might have red shirted, right, So you're going back two 226 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: years from their high school tape. 227 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 228 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: So I've seen it happen for kids go from West 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: Virginia to Delaware, you know. I've seen it go from 230 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: high major programs to low and then you have to 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 5: work your way back up. 232 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: And that can happen, and Penn State does. 233 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: They're in a unique situation where they have to make 234 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 5: a decision quickly because, like we talked about a few 235 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 5: weeks ago, there's only one portal. Now, there's only one 236 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: portal season. The spring is gone, so they have to attack. 237 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 5: January comes, they have to attack the portal. So they 238 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: need to name a coach as soon as possible. Once 239 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: the season ends. They need a coach in place because 240 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: they're going to live in that market and that's because 241 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: half their team's probably going to put their names in 242 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: it just because of the unknown, right they have. 243 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: To do it. 244 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 5: So you're re recruiting your own player, you're recruiting players 245 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: from other areas, and you really have to, you know, 246 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: move quickly because there's a lot of money going around 247 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 5: and people they're taking deals, so you have to they 248 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: have to really put the pedal to the medal and 249 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: be on the gas for this. 250 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: Well, we happen to know one of Penn State's top recruits. Yep, 251 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: and he's a defensive lineman, defensive end kid. The kid's legitimate, 252 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean the kids. The kid's a dude. 253 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a stud. 254 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: He works incredibly hard worker, great size, very smart, intelligent kid, 255 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: and he's he's got tons of upside and potential. 256 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: So put me so obviously. 257 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, he chose Penn State because he really connected 258 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: with the D line coach. 259 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: Yes, great relationship with the D line coach. And there's 260 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: a good possibility he stays right and he's you know, 261 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: his job is to key recruits and he he has 262 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 5: to show his worth for the next coach coming in 263 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 5: saying hey, I held on to my guys, right, Guys, 264 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 5: that committed, So I'm showing my worth. 265 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: This is why you should keep me around, right. 266 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 5: Or even showing for his next job. Hey, I was 267 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: able to hold on during this, you know, transition. I 268 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: was still able to hold on the X, Y, and Z. 269 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 5: So the coaches there are working incredibly hard because it's 270 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: on them, and you know, hopefully people. 271 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: Are picking more than just a coach. 272 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: I know fit is a lot, but also you're you're 273 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: looking like we talked about and then Roger's interview, you're 274 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: looking about feel. 275 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: You're talking about the environment, what you're doing in the. 276 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 5: Off season, how close it is to where you live, 277 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: and you know, coming back and seeing your family, like 278 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: all a lot of these factors come into play. And 279 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: as a Philly guy, he's staying put. He said it 280 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 5: was my dream school. It had a great major. He's 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: thinking down the line. You know, he wanted to work 282 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 5: in the business side. He loved what the school had 283 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: to offer academically, and you. 284 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: Know it fit for what his family wanted. So they're 285 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: staying put for now. 286 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean they're definitely going to stay put for long haul, 287 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,239 Speaker 5: but for now they're saying, we're staying. 288 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what the recruiting process is so interesting, 289 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: and there's gonna be other schools that could offer you 290 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: more money, but you do have to find the right 291 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: fit academically. What you want to be in life is 292 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: a huge factor. And you know, you know, like you said, 293 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: proximity or just get your overall happiness and contentment. 294 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 295 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 5: I was lucky enough to be involved in his process 296 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: a little bit, and because I know the family and 297 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: he's a great kid. But also I preach that stuff 298 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: to him, you know, I tell everybody I want kids 299 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: to follow dreams, to get their dreams. 300 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: And I say the stat all the time. 301 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: One percent of high school athletes become Division one athletes 302 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: and one percent of that Division one athletes become professional athletes. 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: So you're in a you know, the odds are hitting 304 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: the lottery. 305 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 5: Right, So you have to be very creative and selective 306 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 5: and strategic about what you're doing during this process, and 307 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 5: you have to think about, you know, your longevity of 308 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: your life, and you have to go to programs that 309 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: are going to set you up for life and have 310 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: a great network. And I really stress that to them 311 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: during the process. It's not just about the money, right 312 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: because to go to Penn State, some of these. 313 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: Power five lower schools now there. 314 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 5: Philosophy is we have to outbid them early so we 315 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: can get them, like we're never going to give them 316 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: that big raise, but hopefully we can just get them 317 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: for two years. 318 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: We'll outbid them early on. 319 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: Right, Penn State, the bigger schools say, hey, we might 320 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 5: not outbid you early on, but we have the potential 321 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: if you come here and prove yourself, we can pay 322 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: you ten X. 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: Right. 324 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 5: So I kind of he turned down more money to 325 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: go to Penn State and then I ill deals to 326 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: go to Penn State to be a part of that 327 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: program because he was playing the long game. And I 328 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: try to stress that to all the student athletes that. 329 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: I work with through this process. 330 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's smart, it really is. Alex Askell is. 331 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: The player's name, and he's a great kid. But getting 332 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: back to what you do, is there any other way 333 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: does that come into play with an agent? Like, you know, 334 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: should kids that you have the NIL agents and you 335 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: have U you know, regular agents that do deals for 336 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, professional teams and that sort of thing. Who 337 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: we're now getting involved in the NIL space? 338 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: How important? 339 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: Because I guess they're not regulars like they can have 340 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: anybody kind of do their deals. 341 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's kind of wild, you know when you 342 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: and even in the NFL it's changed a little bit, 343 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 5: but you used to have to you know, most times 344 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: it was lawyers, right, you had to do contract law. 345 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: They kind of got away from that. 346 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 5: Now you have to pass a test to kind of 347 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: prove yourself in professional sports. 348 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: But it's not like a law degree is not required. 349 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: It's a lot easier to become an agent, right, and 350 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: especially in the NIL world that can anyone could represent you. 351 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: There's because again they kind of open this up. There's 352 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: not a lot of parameters around it. Someone from your 353 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: family could be your NIL agent, right. So I think 354 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: there's people who are out of seeing the money. 355 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: Right. 356 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 5: We just talked about a one point nine billion and 357 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. 358 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: Alone in NIL deals. 359 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: So it's such a booming industry. People are trying to 360 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: specialize in it, and I think it's important to get help, 361 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: right and at the end of the day, someone you 362 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 5: trust and not just going to say, hey, go get 363 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: the most money because that I get a higher percentage 364 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 5: of what's coming in, but someone that's again showing you 365 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: all the avenues and showing you the long term play 366 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: and weighing your options and having someone that you can 367 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 5: love and respect. But also the big agencies are seeing 368 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: this and they're trying to get involved now. So it's 369 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 5: kind of a mad dash to this nil game and 370 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: seeing who can cement themselves in it. But there's people 371 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: who are specializing strictly in ANIL and I think more 372 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 5: professional guys who have NFL guys are coming down or 373 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: you know, NBA guys are coming down to get in 374 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 5: this game and figure out how to be in this 375 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 5: billion dollar industry. 376 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's utterly wild, it really is, and it 377 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: just it's interesting, you know, the ripple effects to all 378 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: this stuff. 379 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: So who's the next coach? Right? So Indiana locks up Signetti. 380 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: So Signetti is the hot name, right, like Signetti has 381 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: is often this amazing start. 382 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: Indiana has had, you know, an amazing year last year. 383 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: So they get ahead of it and they give him 384 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: a boatload back up the truck to keep Signetti. Yeah, 385 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: they backed it and he's right now, you know. Matt 386 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Ruhle is another one that has been linked to Penn 387 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: State because he was walking on there. 388 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: He met his wife there, he started his coaching career there. 389 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: So you know, the A D at Penn State was 390 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: the A D at Temple where he started, and so 391 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of roots. I mean, 392 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: we do a podcast together, so full disclosure. He he 393 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: you know, he's always talked about Penn State beings dream job. 394 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Now he loves Nebraska and you know he's been rejuvenated. 395 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: He's in the middle of a build in Nebraska, right 396 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: He's got a sophomore quarterback who's legitimate. They lost last 397 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: night and it was not good. But there's all kinds 398 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: of rumors around there, and like you know, I mean, 399 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: some of it's probably really and I know he's probably 400 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: got I don't know if it's if it's on the 401 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: table or if they talked or any of that stuff. 402 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: But I know he's trying to focus, like he wants 403 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: to focus on his job, but it's in the back. 404 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's in the back of his mind. Meanwhile, 405 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: you got kids everywhere, right, Like, you got a whole 406 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: program in Nebraska, you got stuff going on to Penn State. 407 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: They need to have, like you said, someone in place, 408 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: and that means to go poach another coach. 409 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's difficult, you know, because he's not gonna get 410 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: away from it, right, They're not gonna People are not 411 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: gonna stop asking him about it. Even if he says no, 412 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: I'm happy and I'm staying because he has the ties 413 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: and it's been a name as foo. So it's difficult, 414 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: and you his job is really tough right now because 415 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: he loves where he's at. They were great to him. 416 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: They're giving him a lot of support. Right Nebraska is 417 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 5: all in on Matt. But there's no way even if 418 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 5: he says. 419 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 4: No, they're going to stop until Penn State hires a. 420 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: Coach and that just you know, it seeks into the 421 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: program and kids are gonna be like, what's next, Right, 422 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: They're gonna so to really keep them focused and locked in. 423 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: He's got a tall task ahead of them. And I'm 424 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 5: a huge fan. I think he does a great job. 425 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: So I'm hopefully he can really, you know, continue to 426 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 5: build his program and hopefully you know, drowned out this 427 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: outside noise and they lock in and they can finish 428 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: the season strong. Regardless of how what he's gonna do next. 429 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 5: But he's got a tall test because he didn't ask 430 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: for this, right, The Braska didn't ask for this. But 431 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure there's people calling his top players like, hey, 432 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: that's gonna be leaving right, trying to you know, start 433 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 5: this narrative to really get the ball wrong. It's it's 434 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 5: a crazy world. Like you said, the vultures are circling 435 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: and when they see it, they're gonna they're they're gonna circle, 436 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: and they're gonna try to poach all these kids. And 437 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 5: and it's act when they can so again with all 438 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: this money and play, even for the coaching side and 439 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: the player side, it's such a it's such a different game, 440 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: and you know it's colleges is just different. 441 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: And like the big question for me is like what's 442 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: the competitive. 443 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 5: And balance now for like these smaller schools that are 444 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 5: trying to fight in right, Like, how how do they 445 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 5: sustain this? 446 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: So we don't know now, but we'll see in the future. 447 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's take a quick te you we'll 448 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: come right back. There was a lawsuit project nil Ohio, 449 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: so we got to talk about that. Uh, and also 450 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: the trickle down effect as to suddenly middle school kids 451 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: I hear it are talking about their next to be sponsored. 452 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: These are children, correct, I know, my my little one 453 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: does that. Yeah, he's talking at il deals. God, just 454 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: go to practice. 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All right, buddy, 484 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: So let's get to this lawsuit that was in Ohio. 485 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: Jamiir Brown, who's at twenty seven. 486 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Recruit Ohio State commit, and his family a final lawsuit 487 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: against the Ohio A High School Athletic Association, claiming it's 488 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: banned on nil violates his right to earn income and 489 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: express himself. Shock Waves tell us about it. 490 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: Filed Wednesday. 491 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: He's the number one wide receiver ranked in the country 492 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: in the twenty twenty se figures. 493 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: She goes to wide receiver You oh. 494 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: Actually naturally so He's currently a junior at Wayne High 495 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 5: School in Ohio. He converbally committed to Ohio State receiver. 496 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: You as me and you like to say it. They 497 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: pump out NFL. 498 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: Guys every year, but yeah, it's Ohio is one of 499 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 5: the few states left that doesn't let any type of nil. 500 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: Some states, a majority of states have adapted in some 501 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: sort of way. This state is the is one that 502 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 5: is still firmly against no in il in high school. 503 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: And the lawsuit was, you know, filed. They're just saying, 504 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: you know, we're getting by. 505 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 5: The family actually said, hey, we're getting by, but like 506 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 5: at this level, right, he's in that one percentile, Right, 507 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 5: he's a top ten recruit in the country, regardless of position. 508 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 5: So they're saying, you know, to travel and to do 509 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: these things, it's for him to grow his network. 510 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: We're not. 511 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: We're you know, this law in their state prohibiting them 512 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 5: to make money in high school is really you know, 513 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: unconstitutional and taking away his ability to make money and 514 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: help our family, you know, get him to the next level. 515 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 5: So it's it's gonna be interesting to see how it 516 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: plays out. I've read that they could possibly have an 517 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 5: emergency hearing in the coming weeks to kind of rule 518 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: on this. The family and their complaints. They said, like 519 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: he's missing out on at least one hundred thousand dollars 520 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 5: a year, and they said, you know there's trading card 521 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: deals that they showed in the court documents that they're 522 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 5: being offered. 523 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: They're talking, Oh. 524 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: My god, that's the other thing, like the collectibles world. 525 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: He's a world, right, because it's always a bit about 526 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: the rookie card. Right, Oh, let's get the rookie card. Well, 527 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: now if you can have the you know, imagine that 528 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: Tom Brady seventh grade card. I mean, you know, like 529 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: the world. But they're not wrong. There is real dollars there. 530 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, And they presented in their documents like, hey, we've 531 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 5: been offered deals with you know, memorabilia companies. Right, so 532 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 5: they have some documentation, you know, to back up their 533 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: claim that he's losing out on a lot of money. 534 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: And it's affecting their family. 535 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: And they're saying it's unconstitutional, which is again, it's a 536 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 5: new world, right. We opened up this, We open up 537 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: this can of worms, right, with not a lot of parameters. 538 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 4: Around it on how they can earn and when they 539 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 4: can earn. 540 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 5: So people are pushing the envelope and you know, talking 541 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: to ads in the college world, you know that, I said, 542 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: is there a way to ever you know, scale this 543 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 5: back and put more guardrails on it? And they say, well, 544 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 5: we open the doors up. Now it's a constitutional thing. 545 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: Like once we've let them earn this money. We're now 546 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 5: it's against their constitutional rights if we if we really 547 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: hone this back in because we opened it up with 548 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 5: such wide parameters, with. 549 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: No with no parameters, so with right. 550 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's really really crazy and I'm interested to 551 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: see how plays out. It's going to be very interesting 552 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 5: to see how this unfolds and see how Ohio moves 553 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 5: from this. 554 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: Well, here's the other issue is that around the around 555 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: the world, kids become pros in their teens, right, Like, 556 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: they go to these soccer academies and they're paid like 557 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: you're you're a sixteen year old professional basketball player, Like 558 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: there is no there is no amateur status at all. 559 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: So I think when you when you open up. 560 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: The college stick here, it then trickles down to what 561 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: we're seeing in. 562 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: High school a middle. 563 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 4: School, yeah, for sure. And he and he's seeing it 564 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: around the country. 565 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: Some guys are really getting paid right now in high school, 566 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 5: especially at his level. I mean, depending on the recruiting 567 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 5: service you look at, he might be ranked as highs 568 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 5: two in the country and he's a wide receiver, he's 569 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 5: a number one receiver, but overall I've seen him anywhere 570 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: from two to ten so when you're in that small procera. 571 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that on our Fox Sports Radio project that. 572 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 5: L ranked twenty seven. We didn't put that out yet. 573 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: In he will read our top ten. We did the 574 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 5: twenty six class, so he's he's a junior, so that 575 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 5: will in a coming weeks we'll drop our twenty seven rankings, 576 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 5: but he will be in the top ten for sure. 577 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: He's he's an elite speed. He's running like a four 578 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 4: three four four in high school as a junior. 579 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, so that's blazing. 580 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: Blazing speed. 581 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, on ESPN he's ranked number two prospect overall 582 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 5: in his class, and he's just climbing the board and 583 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 5: they're just saying, it's about creating fairness and getting a 584 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: chance to maximize this window, right, because there's money to 585 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 5: be made and he wants to hit now, while the ironside, well, 586 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: you don't know if there's gonna be injuries, you don't 587 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 5: know how he's going to project, right, So his family 588 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: is saying, hey, we have it the opportunity, now, please 589 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 5: let us earn while we can. 590 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 591 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess you can't argue like you can't. 592 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: It's like as much is we know that money can 593 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: poison stuff, right like it's it always does, but you 594 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: need you know, we need it, right like, and families 595 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: need it, and children needed to start their kids needed 596 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: to start their lives. And it's only fair, right Like 597 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: it's you know, the minute, the minute TV gets involved 598 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: and apparel companies, shoe companies get involved and pump that 599 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: kind of money into something, then well then the athletes 600 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: who were actually the showmen that you that you build around, 601 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: need to get compensated. And that means if it doesn't 602 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: matter what age they are. 603 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. And I was reading something to document. 604 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 5: Another thing that they're arguing is like they have a 605 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: lot of cost as being this top tier athlete. 606 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: Right. 607 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: They have to travel, they have to train, they have 608 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: to pay for recovery, they have to pay for shootering, right. 609 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like we joke about Lebron James spending two 610 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: million dollars on his body and you wonder why he's 611 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: four years old and kick ball like that, right, but 612 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: that ain'ts the same thing. It's expensive, man, It's expensive 613 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: for me, Like we struggle with it, Like you gotta coaches, 614 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: private coaches, lessons. 615 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: Just getting to a company. Bit you're traveling all over 616 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: the country every week. 617 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you're going you're driving a ripken, You're driving 618 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: to Baltimore from Moss You're out there, you're gas money, 619 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: you tolls, right. 620 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, they forget that we were in South Carolina, we 621 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: were in Cooperstown. 622 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god, We're all over the place. 623 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You're making So that gets pushed aside. 624 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: People don't really realize it. 625 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: So again, if there's an opportunity, the family saying it's great, 626 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 5: we're very fortunate, but this comes with a lot of cost. 627 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 5: And in ninety percent of the states in the country 628 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: there's some type. 629 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: Of nil allowed. 630 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 5: Why are we in Ohio not allowed to maximize the 631 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: situation and earn and put our son in. 632 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: The best possible spots right to succeed. So again, it's 633 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: it's a crazy new world that we're on cover. 634 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 5: There'll be more lawsuits like this, I think down the line, 635 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 5: but this will be the precedent, especially for the few 636 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: states that are still not allowing it. 637 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be there's gonna be some sort of 638 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 2: universal rule. I don't know how you can not allow 639 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: at ayao. It just makes no sense to me. 640 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: And it's crazy. 641 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: It's starting to get involved, like Congress is starting to 642 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 5: get hearings on it. And so it's again when there's 643 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: when there's billions involved, everyone's gonna want to talk about it. 644 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: And heay, we brought up pet State earlier, right, and 645 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 2: we brought up how Penn State needed to make a 646 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: move mid season, which is so usually never happens, right, 647 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: it's so rare. 648 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: But Penn State is. 649 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: Adidas yep and a million. 650 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: Look when when Penn State loses to Oregon, which is Nike, 651 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: Adidas isn't happy and Adidas needs Penn State to be 652 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: a big time program. 653 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: Yep. So Adida says, how much do you know? Franklin? 654 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: All right, well I'm sure for DNIS went all right, 655 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: Well here's some some uh. 656 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: Let us ship in here. Let's talk about a little bit. 657 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll cover some of that. You got to get 658 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: them out. 659 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: You need a new coach in place because we need 660 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: Penn State for our strategy to be to be something. 661 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: And but the pushback, right, I want to give the 662 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: other side here. I want to pay a little Devil's 663 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 5: advocate a pushback a while. How is you know what's 664 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: against an eye out you know, there's some inequalities, right, 665 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: there's they want to make sure it's equitable for all schools, right. 666 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 5: They want to make sure that every school is the 667 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 5: same opportunity. And when you bring money into it, some 668 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 5: schools are funded better than others, you know, so their 669 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: their initial argument is to say, we wanted to be 670 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: we want equity across the board. 671 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: Right. 672 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: This this makes it very complex, right, there could be 673 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 5: a lot of backlash. 674 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: There could be and there's different factors, mitigating factors everywhere. 675 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so like I understand both sides of it. So 676 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 5: it makes it very difficult to navigate. And again, like 677 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 5: we were just talking about, there's an inequity with the 678 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 5: lower schools, right, the American Conference is a Patriot Conference, 679 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 5: and you know how you navigate that as these lower 680 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: major programs. And in a couple of weeks we're going 681 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: to have one of my good friends, he's a coach 682 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: at Buck now in the Patriot League, and to talk 683 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: about how they navigate an il right, and how they're 684 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 5: doing it at a lower level, because it affects these 685 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: schools more than people understand, and they have to get 686 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: really creative to try to you know, stay relevant and 687 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: compete at this level. 688 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. 689 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: Hey, coming up, we go to the mail bag, the 690 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: email bag, and. 691 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: It's funny. I want to joke about it. 692 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: But our parent is talking about his son pulling like 693 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: my Masima, talking about, you know, wanting to get paid 694 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: like in middle school. So it's not just my kid. 695 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: There are other kids dealing with this. So I really 696 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: want to address it. I want you to address this 697 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: stuff because it's pervasive, it's all over. 698 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 5: I mean, they see it, right, they want to be 699 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 5: a part of it. They think, hey, why not me? Right, 700 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 5: So that's a driving factor or in their. 701 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: Head it's closer. Let's let's take cooktilla. We'll come right 702 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: back and dive into it. This is Project nil, the 703 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: show devoted to youth athlete, youth athletics, high school, college, 704 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: and that nil money. Right here on Fox Sports Radio, 705 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back Project Nil with Penn Charter Athletic director in Philadelphia, 706 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Daniel de Bernardinas. I'm Anthony Gargano together with Project Nil, 707 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: and this is where we get into youth sports and 708 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: this whole wild world. Danny d v A d all right, buddy, 709 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: boy U, it's funny. I know the guy so there's 710 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 2: a friend of mine. His name's jim and Jimmy set 711 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: me in. Actually it was a text, wasn't even an email. 712 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: If you want, I want to give you my personal 713 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 2: email if you want to email me and get any 714 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: of this stuff to Danny, My email is Anthony L. 715 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: Gargano at Comcast dot net. So if you want to 716 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: email me about that you are about the subject, you 717 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: just email me. I'll get with Nanny and we'll talk 718 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: about it on the show. But anyway, Jimmy says, goes 719 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: all this talk about Nil, My kid is kids convinced 720 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: he's going to get an Nile deal in high school. 721 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: And he's such a really good baseball player, and you know, 722 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: like Massa, he and my son are on the same team, 723 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: and you know they're a good team, right, so they're 724 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 2: you know, that's part of what they're talking about. And 725 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: the dugout is and I've heard it set times is 726 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: nil deals. 727 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 5: Yep, and and it's it's crazy and at the youth level. 728 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: I don't want it to change what people you know, 729 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 5: what success looks like, right that could people were changing 730 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 5: it based off all well, you know, we're working. 731 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: Towards the Centil deal, this is what success looks like. 732 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 5: And it's and hopefully it doesn't like realign the shift 733 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 5: where people are saying, like I want to go to 734 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 5: where these sports. These families are trying to focus more 735 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 5: on sports that are driven by the money, like more football, baseball, basketball, 736 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: not you know, not playing the sports like volleyball and 737 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 5: soccer right that they might love or have a passion for. 738 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 5: So it's it is scary, but I just I just 739 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 5: keep you know, trying to tell people we have to 740 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 5: focus on what it's about. 741 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: It's about development. It's about becoming a better person. 742 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 5: It's learning these characteristics that are to help you later 743 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 5: in life. 744 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: But it's real, right, they see it. It's all over 745 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 4: social media. 746 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 5: It's all over their tiktoks, it's all over their Instagrams 747 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: and Facebook. 748 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: So it's hard not to have it in the back 749 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: of your mind. 750 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: But for parents, I just, you know, keep stressing what 751 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 5: it's really about. It's about development, right, It's about you know, 752 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: becoming a better person at the end of the day, 753 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 5: learning characteristics and traits that are going to help you 754 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: later in life. 755 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you what do you say about you know, 756 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 2: all this stuff that's going it isn't natural for kids 757 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: to kind of want that because it's closer, right, Like 758 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: if you think about it, like when I was growing 759 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 2: up and how older than you, it was like all 760 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: I want to do was be a quarterback and a shortstop, 761 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: right yep, you know, I mean it's all I wanted 762 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: to do, and like, I know I could play in 763 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: the NFL, yeah right, and all that stuff. But now 764 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: these kids they go, well, you know I want to 765 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: get there. I don't and IL deal in high school. 766 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: Well it's different when I'm twelve, I'm looking at you know, 767 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: maybe I could be a quarterback for Notre Dame or 768 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: Penn State and then going to the NFL. Well it 769 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: was world's away, right, Yeah, Well this isn't world's away 770 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: when you're talking about a twelve year old in middle school. 771 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: Well, the school's around the corner and all of. 772 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: A sudden, right, Like, how do you as in high school, 773 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: a d that's built these programs, how do you reconcile 774 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: this and do you want to keep it thinking about 775 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: that stuff? 776 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 777 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: I mean you just kind of keep stressing. If you 778 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: do what you're supposed to do and you. 779 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 5: Work really hard, this is a possibility, right, so I 780 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 5: don't want them to crush their dream that this is 781 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: something that they want to chase after, right, I want 782 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 5: them to be able to, you know, get their dreams. 783 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 5: So I would just stress, Hey, if you do what 784 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: you're supposed to do, this stuff, it becomes a reality. 785 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 3: Right. 786 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 5: And it's happened at high school level. At my current school, 787 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 5: we have one of the top runners in the country 788 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 5: and she's a she's running for New Balance. 789 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: She's a nice she's fourteen years old. Aunt, she's story mci. 790 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 5: S Kelley set the indoor records last year in the 791 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 5: nationals for as an eighth grader for the mile and 792 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 5: two mile, and these companies, Nike and New Balance are 793 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 5: reaching out to her. 794 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 4: She's fourteen years old, right, but she works really hard. 795 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 5: And when I talk to the parents, I just continue 796 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 5: to stress, keep doing what you're supposed to do, do 797 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 5: your due. 798 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 4: Diligence, but keep working hard. 799 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: And this is what happens with hard work now in 800 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 5: today's world, right, it happens earlier on. So you know, 801 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 5: just try try keeping you know, that mindset right and 802 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 5: where you can focus on the work, focus on becoming better, 803 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 5: and these things happen right and now that's a possibility 804 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 5: in today's world where you can get paid at such 805 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 5: a young age. 806 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like to me, it's not a bit. They 807 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 2: don't understand the money, they don't know what money is. 808 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 4: They want the brand deals. 809 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: Right right, right, It's for just a status, right, It's 810 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: a status to show how good they are. 811 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: Yep, that's what that is for sure at that age. 812 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 5: But I'm excited for a couple of weeks and we 813 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 5: had some great that we'll be working with high school coaches, 814 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 5: college coaches, sports psychologists. So in the coming weeks we'll 815 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 5: have a lot of different guests to kind of talk 816 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 5: about you sports and the NIL project. And again, if 817 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 5: you have any questions, please reach out to Anthony. 818 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 4: And we want to continue to grow just things. 819 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 5: So we appreciate everyone, all the listeners and the producers 820 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 5: and everyone back there. 821 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: So thank you. All right, buddy, we love it. 822 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: Once again, it's Anthony Augarganocomcast dot and then stay tuned. 823 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: The Fellas are coming up next.