1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. It's our midweek show, our Wednesday show, 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: and that means we look ahead at the Packers next opponent. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: We've already been talking a little bit about the Chicago 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Bears this week. You look at the Bears two thousand 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: nineteen season and there's really only one way to describe it, 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: and that's streaky. They they won three straight games after 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: the Packers beat them in Week one, then they lost 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: five in row, and then since the five game losing streak, 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: they've now won four out of five, including three straight. 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: As they come to lambeau Field in week fifteen for 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: a noon Central Time kickoff on Sunday, and as we 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, their seasons on the line. Yeah. So 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: if you go by that streak, I mean they're ready 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: for a supposed to back the other way. This roller 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: closter is supposed to go. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the one thing I've said before, I said it earlier 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: this week, Chicago is so much better than their record indicates. Uh, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent on both sides of 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the ball. They they are able to hurt you in 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: different ways. They can beat you in a multiple of 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: other ways, and they can win low scoring ball games 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: to it the way that their defense plays. The key 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: to all of this has been Mitchell Trubisky and when 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: he's healthy and when he's right, they play pretty good football. Um, 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: when he's either not healthy or not right, more often 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: than not, they've lost. They've built this thing around him. 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: We knew that going into this season. The moves that 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: they've made both on offense and defense have been centered 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: around their young quarterback and feeling like this is the 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: guy that's going to lead them back to the championship land. 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: So the tough part of it is when you're trying 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: to assess them, is what you're going to get in 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: any given week. They did what I think if they 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: could make an actual claim down the stretch here of 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: being a playoff team, they had to do what they 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: did in Dallas. They needed to dictate that game. They 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: need to pose their will upon the Cowboys, and they 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: did all that. Dallas put up some points at the end, 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: but for the most part. It was a pretty clean 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: game there for the Bears. Yeah, when you look at 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: the fact that Dallas took the opening kickoff Mark Rush 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: right down the field and scored and went up seven 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: to nothing, and then I believe the score was thirty 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: one to seventeen before Dallas scored again. So in through 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the center stretch of the game, the Bears outscored the 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys thirty one to ten. It was a pretty dominating performance, 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: it really was. And now they put themselves in a 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: position much like the Packers. Packers talked about one and 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: o each week, they talked about winning the game that's 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: in front of them, green to be at this point 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: at ten and three, they've put themselves in this position. 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: And the Bears have made themselves alive again. And what 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: would have appeared to be relatively obscure, you know, obscure 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: chance of making a playoff run here at the beginning 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: of December. Yeah, I mean I actually made the comment 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: an insider inbox that if anybody had anticipated this surge 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: by the Bears, I don't think this game would have 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: stayed at noon, as I think it would have been 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: flexed into a different time slot. And interestingly, a reader had, Yeah, 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: the last time the Packers and the Bears played a 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: noon kickoff at lambeau Field was in two thousand eight, 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers first season as the starting quarterback. I didn't 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: realize that. But you go back through every year and 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: it's like the vast majority have been primetime games and 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: then there have been there one, one or two others 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: that were kickoffs. So just a strange scheduling anomaly when 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I think back to my youth that when the pack 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: has played the Bears, it was always at noon. That's 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: just that's just the way the way it was. Hear 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: about this stuff. Yeah, Well, and the other thing I'll 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: say too, And I think I mentioned this on the 75 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: show like a week or two ago. The margins, as 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: we talk about, are so slim in the NFL, and 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: you look at the fact that, you know, the one 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: game that hangs out there for the Bears that could 79 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: have potentially changed everything and changed the look of this 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: game and their month of December was the Chargers game 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: when Eddie Pinero missed the kick on the last play 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: of the game that would have won the game. If 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: the Bears are sitting here at eight and five instead 84 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: of seven and six with three games to go, we're 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: having a completely different conversation about where they stand. I 86 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: don't think motivationally things would be any different because because 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: everything is is still on the line, but certainly their 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: chances um would look a lot different. And I think 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the biggest reason their defense has been pretty solid all 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: year long. I think the biggest reason the Bears have 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: gotten themselves in this position is because they've cut Mitz 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Trubisky loose a little bit with with his legs, with 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: running his scrambling out of the pocket, running read option 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: UM and UH and some designed runs in that sense 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. Now, he did play some games earlier 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: in the season when he wasn't a percent healthy, and 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: maybe the game plan, the play calling, all of that 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: they had to protect him a little bit. I don't 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: know if I don't know if that's the case. But 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: what I've seen the last few games as Chicago started 101 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: to get on a roll, here is the Trubisky that 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: was running a lot with the ball, both both read 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: option and scrambling out of the pocket on pass plays. 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: That really helped this Bears offense. When the NFC North 105 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I mean you go back and look 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: at it last year like rushes for four and twenty 107 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: one yards and three touchdowns this year in too fewer 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: games to this point, only thirty six for one. You 109 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: gotta let your young quarterback be who he is and 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: allow him to be the type of player that has 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: made him as exciting is you know, filled him with 112 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: as much potential as this fan base feels. He has. 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: Well almost half of that one forty three that he 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: has rushing yards this year was against the Cowboys last weekend. 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: He had sixty some yards some yards to be able 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: to get him out again. I just you look at him. 117 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a scout to understand that 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: that's where that guy is at his most comfortable. Comfortable now, 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: he's had some challenges. Losing Trey Burton was a big challenge. 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people going into 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: the season they thought that was going to be again 122 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: his number one target. He hasn't had that Allen Robinson 123 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: took a step forward in this offense. Anthony Miller is 124 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: a guy I loved going back to the draft. Uh 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: slot receiver out of Memphis, very talented young man. Bears 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: did too, because they traded up to select him, didn't they? Yeah, 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: And he's emerged more as a playmaker in this offense. 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: The thing that I think has hurt them the most 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: is they don't have Jordan Howard and Terek Cohen is 130 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: more of a gadget type back, and David Montgomery I 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: think has potential in this league. But the thing that 132 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: works so well with the Jordan Howard thing with them, 133 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just with Rubisky, it goes before him. 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: He just he was that north and South, put your 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: head down, just kind of a grindstone type player. They 136 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: ended up signing Mike Davis. That didn't work out. They 137 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: ended up cutting Mike Davis to enable themselves to get 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: the cop pick back that would have cost him, I 139 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: believe a fourth rounder if they would have held onto him. 140 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: So trying to find a run game to complement Rubinsky 141 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: has been it's been stress so far this season, and 142 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that has kind 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: of factored into this and maybe gotten them out of 144 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: their offensive rhythm a little bit. But you're seeing it 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in the last few weeks where they could potentially be 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: a threat and why they can, you know, go out 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: there and dictate tempo in a T and T stadium 148 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: against Dallas. It's because they found that was actually sorry, Yeah, 149 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: why they were able to dictate tempo in a game 150 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: like that, because you have those type of things working 151 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: in your favor then and again, it's gonna be interesting 152 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: to watch exactly which Rubisky we see. I think the 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Packers have seen both of them. They've seen the guy 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: that can throw and they've seen the guy that sometimes 155 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: looks lost in the pockets. So being able to get 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: precedent as a Darius going again like they did in 157 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Week one, when both those guys really emerged and said, Okay, 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: these are playmakers, these are guys are gonna affect football games. 159 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: That's gonna be big. Along with Kenny Clark one and 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: a half sacks last week, had a really big performance 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: against Chicago and week one, they need that pressure again 162 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: from the inside. Yeah, I think the Packers do need 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: to get the pressure, but I think they have to 164 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: be careful because of true Whisky's ability to scramble here 165 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and the Packers did rack up a bunch of sacks 166 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: back in Week one at Soldier Field. In this matchup, 167 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna have to rush this quarterback 168 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: in a little bit more discipline fashion maybe then the 169 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Packers did the first time, because if you know, on 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: third and six or third and seven, if he just 171 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: starts breaking the pocket, you know, if if the rush 172 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: lanes break down and there's no integrity there to kind 173 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: of hem him in, you know, he can get out 174 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and pick up those six seven yards and move the 175 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: chains pretty easily. And I just from from my perspective, 176 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I would much rather make Mitchell Trubisky beat me with 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: his arm um when he is struggling to develop somewhere 178 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: poor with tight ends. And yes, he's getting some things 179 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: going with Allan Robinson, he's had him all year, Anthony 180 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: Miller definitely coming on as of late. And uh, and 181 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: we know the Packers have had some struggles against tight ends, 182 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: but the you know, the Bears haven't had that key 183 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: guy all season long. But but you just you can't 184 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: let this guy get out of the pocket play after 185 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: play after play. You've got to keep him in there 186 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: and make him beat you throwing the ball. Yeah, And 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: that's why I really like Clark in week one, because 188 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: when you get that pressure inside and you can collapse 189 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: in the pocket that way, that's what allows your edge 190 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: rushers to hold their integrity a little bit more on 191 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: the ends, and yeah, you brought that up to I 192 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: want to point that out. Tight end has been a 193 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: tough position for them. They found something with Trey Burton, 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: but then he's out and on injured reserve. Adam Shaheen 195 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: just really hasn't worked out for them at to this point. 196 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Now they spent his second round pick. Yeah, he was 197 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the big kid out of Ashland a couple of years ago. Um, 198 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: and right now they have five tight ends on their roster, 199 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: but nobody that has over sixty receiving ours. I think 200 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: to this point, maybe when when? But maybe is it 201 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: whims as whims of it I'm trying to think, but 202 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: be that as it may well whims as a receiver. 203 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: So they're struggling he is, I mean, he's too twenty, 204 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: but um, they haven't been able to find that guy. 205 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: And in this absence of Burton, I mean, you saw 206 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: what he brought last year and exactly, especially for a 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: young quarterback, how important those kinds of players can be. 208 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: That's gonna be something to watch. In addition to the 209 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: fact that they've had to do some moving around with 210 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: their offensive line too. I mean, Charles Leno is a 211 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: pro bowler now, but they lost Kyle Long early in 212 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: the season. It's it's it's been a grind and trying 213 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: to see exactly which offense we're going to see what 214 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: the Bears because if you go statistically right now, Michael, 215 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I think they're what passing and passing twenty nine and 216 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: toty yards twenty nine and running points. It has been 217 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: a you know, not the cleanest year for Mattnegie's offense. Yeah, well, 218 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: we will switch gears to the defensive side of the 219 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: ball after this. Sponsor business select Cousin Subs location are 220 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: now offering delivery whether you're ordering online, I'm sorry, whether 221 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: you're ordering catering or your favorite sub, They're delivering right 222 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to you when you order online at Cousin Subs dot 223 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: com Cousins Subs. We believe in better. Okay. So for 224 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: all the changes that the Bears have made on offense, 225 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: with what they're doing with Rubisky, with Montgomery being the 226 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: lead back now as opposed to Mike Davis. In week 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: one when the Packers met them the first time, defensively, 228 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things look the same. They didn't. They 229 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: got a new coordinator, this year in Chuck Bagana, but 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: they didn't exactly reinvent the wheel. UM. They're playing Chicago 231 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Bears defense. We're waiting to see if potentially they activate 232 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks off of injured reserve. He's UM. He 233 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: has sat out the requisite eight weeks of games that 234 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: are required UM for a player who goes on i R. 235 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: So that could be a big change in terms of 236 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: how they look up front. But ro Kuwan Smith is 237 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season. There young prized 238 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. He's being replaced by he believes a fourth 239 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: or a fifth year veteran. UM. Well, they've got Kevin 240 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Pierre Lewis, that's the one I'm thinking. You know, Nick 241 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Kwaikowski is also a guy that they have there behind 242 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Danny Trevathan. So they are pretty deep actually an inside linebacker. 243 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: But as you just said, Mike, you can't replace that guy. 244 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: He's just so fast, he's so quick. He's great for 245 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: that position. Yeah, top ten pick in the draft a 246 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So losing him, that's a big 247 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: that that really hurts. Now he was already injured. I 248 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: think it was mostly just trying to figure out Okay 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: is it like the Or and Burkes thing. Is he 250 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna need surgery, can you play through the torn pectoral 251 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: or where is this going to put him? He does 252 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: need the surgery, so he'll put his best foot forward 253 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: now for next season. But again, had another hundred tackle season. 254 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna be a real nightmare a Kiem 255 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Hicks is the real interesting one in this equation because 256 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly where he's at or what the 257 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: timeline was for that injury. But we said this going 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: back to in the day that he was placed an 259 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: injured reserve. I think you and I were already counting 260 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: up the weeks. Yeah, I looked. I looked at it 261 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: right away and I was like, oh, well, he if 262 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: if he's healthy enough, he'll be eligible to come back 263 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: to play Green Bay and uh and sure enough, here 264 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, and and this is how it works out. 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see where the week goes with that. 266 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: But dude, Mike, you look at it. There are so 267 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: many talented guys on this team, you know. And Eddie 268 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Goldman has been a nose tackle I've been high on 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: for years. Nick Williams is backup at that position, has 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: six sacks is here. Khalil Mack only has seven and 271 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: a half sacks, but he has five force fumbles. I mean, 272 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: I think ha Ha Clinton Dix has been a really 273 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: nice addition for them, And I know so many times 274 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: people want to make it about Ha Ha versus Adrian Amos. 275 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: I actually think it's kind of funny when you shuffle 276 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: the deck up. I think both of those safeties ended 277 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: up probably in a defense that fits them better. I 278 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: agree what their role and what they're being asked to do. 279 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: I agree completely. Clinton Dix already had that rapport with 280 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: with Eddie Jackson. We talked about that at the beginning 281 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: of the season. Those guys go back to Bama together, 282 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and and then certainly Kyle Fuller is one of my 283 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: favorite cornerbacks in this so there are a ton of 284 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: guys that can hurt you. Thirty sacks on the year 285 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: for that defense, I think they're right around the top 286 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: ten still again this year. There maybe not as dominant 287 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: as they were last year the Vic Fangio, but they're 288 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: still very good with what Chuck Pagano has them doing. Yeah, 289 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're gonna have to deal with 290 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Leonard Floyd coming off the edges um 291 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: cornerback wise, though, have you heard anything? Are they getting 292 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Prince of Mukamara back because he's been injured, hasn't he? Yeah? 293 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know where that's been. See, this is the 294 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: tough thing when we do the show this time the 295 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: week because nobody actually wants what they're doing. Yeah, we're not. 296 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: We're not up to speed on where things are injury wise. 297 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: But I had heard some rumors that it was it 298 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: was possible that he could be back this week to 299 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: play against the Packers, but nobody was saying anything for sure. 300 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: So the Chicago Tribune is reporting that Mukamara and Kiem 301 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: Hicks both hope to return for the Bears. But the 302 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: problem is with Themar's injury though, is it's a hamstring, 303 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and I think there were some questions about how much 304 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: time he's going to need it. We've talked about it 305 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: over the years, those soft tissue injuries. It's just not 306 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: a three to six week window. It's it's a hey, 307 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: is this guy gonna be able to go? Yeah, and 308 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: cold weather doesn't exactly help with those types of He's 309 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: been a revelation for this defense over the last three 310 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: four years. I actually thought when he first got to Chicago, 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I really had some questions about if his better days 312 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: were behind him. Oh. Absolutely, he already bounced around. Felt 313 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: I felt the same way. I think he'd already been 314 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right since he'd been in with the Giants 315 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: with the Giants for a long time. And for him 316 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: to go in there and hold that spot down and 317 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: be able to do what he's done, I think he's 318 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: been the perfect compliment to Fuller. On the other side, 319 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: they've had those two guys that's been there one too 320 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: now for three or four years and it works for them. 321 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: And have Eddie Jackson then over the top of it, 322 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: one of the young emerging safeties in this league. It's 323 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: a good, formidable group and it's one of the reasons 324 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: why the Bears are seven and six at this point 325 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah. Well, certainly in the secondary they 326 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: look a lot different if they have that pair as 327 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: in Kyle Fuller and a Mukamara as the top two 328 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and then the rest of the depth fills in 329 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: behind them. We all know how it goes with any 330 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: team when you lose one of your top two cornerbacks 331 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, there's that domino effect where everybody 332 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: has to shuffle around and and take on new roles. 333 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: So well, we talked about the Bears on both sides 334 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: of the ball. Um compared to Week one against the Packers, 335 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: the offense looks very, very different. The defense is still 336 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: as Chicago Bears defense are giving up. I believe it's 337 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: only about seventeen points per game, which which ranks I 338 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: believe in the top five in the NFL. Right now, quickly, 339 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think is the biggest 340 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: difference in the Green Bay Packers on either side of 341 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: the ball compared to Week one when these teams met 342 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: the first time. What sticks out to you? I will 343 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: answer that question because I have many thoughts. The Bears 344 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you were saying with was it points per game? I 345 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: believe it's seventeen seventeen point eight. They are sevent four 346 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: right now. That's behind New England Buffalo in San Francisco. 347 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: Packers are much different than a number of ways. I think. One, 348 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: for all the ups and downs they've had offensively, I 349 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: think you've seen more of a blend towards what this 350 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: offense is going to be. It's one thing to have 351 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: a blueprint and a vision. But Mike, you know this, 352 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: with anything that you do in life, you can't just 353 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: walk into something and be like, Okay, this is how 354 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be done. When you have eleven offensive 355 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: players on the field at the same time, when you're 356 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: dealing with guys on a fifty three man roster with 357 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: an entire coaching staff and injuries that can change things 358 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: in a weekly basis. And I think Matt Lafleur has 359 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: done a really nice job of rolling with the punches 360 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: and for as much as the outside narrative to this 361 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: point has been about identities and you know, are they 362 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: doing the way they running the offense the way they 363 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: want to run the offense under it's you also got 364 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: to find things that you're good at, right And you 365 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and I were discussing at the end of yesterday's show, 366 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: whether it's some of the passing schemes that they put 367 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: together with the running backs, uh, some of the games 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: that you know, you look at Davante Adams and Alan 369 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Lazar that they've had in overall, just the general principles 370 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: that the Packers have installed, this offense still has a 371 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of potential. Now this is a big test They're 372 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna probably need to put up more than ten points 373 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: like they did that Soldier field, And yeah, I think 374 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: it's going to take more than that because I think 375 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: Matt Nage, with you know how influential he is and 376 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: with this offense and in his ability to evolve and adapt, 377 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: They're not gonna let that happen again. They're gonna challenge 378 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Mike Patton's group in ways they probably weren't challenged in 379 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: Week one. So that's what always makes these matchups really intriguing. 380 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: This is the first time Matt Lafleur will see an 381 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: opponent for a second time in his time as the 382 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: head coach, not counting preseason of course, So all all 383 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: these things on the table, I just think where the 384 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Packers stand right now. What we know that we didn't 385 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: know in Week one is that Aaron Jones can be 386 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: a viable number one option for an entire offense, not 387 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: just a backfield. You can run an offense through him. 388 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: He has that capability. Jamal Williams can turn it up 389 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: at any time you need him to. In the Packers, 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: for all that's been made and maybe not having that 391 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: number two receiver Davante Adams, they've had so many different 392 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: guys step up at clutch moments of this season. It 393 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: hasn't been that they've been just trying to throw guys 394 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: in there to find somebody. They've rotated guys through and 395 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: they found guys and put them in positions that make 396 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: them success based on their skill set. Yeah, I mean, 397 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: we certainly saw in week one, you know, the debut 398 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: in the regular season of Matt Lafleur's offense with Aaron Rodgers. 399 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: We saw the Packers trying to establish that outside zone 400 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: running game. It wasn't really working against the Bears at all. 401 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: About a month into the season, really the Dallas game, 402 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: the switch was kind of flipped to where the Packers 403 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: went to more of the inside zone running game, and uh, 404 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: those runs up the middle, and that's really become the 405 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: staple of the running game. And the runs that go outside, 406 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: more often than not, are ones that bounce outside. They're 407 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily designed to go that way. But that's where 408 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: you take, right, Yeah, you just take you take advantage 409 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: of that, that vision of a player like Jones. But 410 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: even the forty two yard run that he broke off 411 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: um last week against Washington, that was an inside run 412 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: and you know it it hit inside and then when 413 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: he got to the second level, you know, Jones took 414 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: it from there. So I think that's one significant difference 415 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: that we that that we see here. And also the 416 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: Packers are going to go into this game presumably barring 417 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, any setbacks, but with four active tight ends 418 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: on the forty six man roster, which we saw last week, 419 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: led to a lot of three tight end packages which 420 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: the Packers both ran the ball and threw the ball 421 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: out of. And that's something I don't I don't think 422 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: the Packers lined up with three tight ends against the 423 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Bears in Week one very much, if at all, um 424 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: in that game. So those are the kinds of things 425 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: that you know, the coaches see those on film, and 426 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: those get worked into into practice to preparing for, you know, 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: an opponent that you know. But then the coaches are 428 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: in the meeting room pointing things out, saying, Okay, these 429 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: are the things that we didn't see before. This is 430 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: what we have to be ready for. Yeah, there was 431 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: a time in the month of September. I don't even 432 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: know if Jimmy Graham and Mercedes Lewis were on the 433 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: field together at the same time. It was either that 434 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: they would run Graham and eleven person Noel, or they 435 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: would go at Lewis and Tani and in there, you 436 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: know there are other packages. I really liked what you saw. 437 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate the Packers weren't able to sustain that for 438 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: four quarters, but that first quarter was There's a lot 439 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: of potential there because you know, Jimmy Graham had a 440 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: nice catch, but Ja Sternberger was opened on that play too. 441 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: On the backside, you've seen Robert Tonyan what he can 442 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: contribute now that he's put that hip injury behind him. 443 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: In Mercedes Lewis, we talked so much about Jake Cumro 444 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: made a phenomenal block on that play that sprung Aaron 445 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Jones after Jones took it to the outside hip of 446 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins. So did Mercedes Lewis to wedge that off 447 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: and to give him just enough space to get up 448 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: field and be able to stretch that thing for forty two. 449 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: I really hope people don't get too fixated on the 450 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: inside versus outside zone stuff because I feel like Matt 451 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Lafleur did what was best for the offense in general, 452 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: and yeah, absolutely, no, no question. I just think it's 453 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: I think the Packers have presented since the Dallas game. 454 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: They presented a very different look with their running games 455 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: and what they were trying to do in September. Yeah, 456 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: and what I like is that it's just understanding, Okay, 457 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: what what did Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones both too well? 458 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, because they have different skill sets, they 459 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: both fit the inside zone a lot better. And maybe 460 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: it's just because of Elton Jenkins jumping in there making 461 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: some nice blocks. Maybe it's just because that athleticism that 462 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: they that's probably the most athletic they've been at that interior, 463 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: uh offensive line position in years. So there's so many 464 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: different things that go off of it. And I'm sure 465 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: it'll be a conversation again this offseason which direction the 466 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Packers want to be their foundation moving forward. But as 467 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: it relates to this year, if Aaron Jones is your 468 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: top playmaker, you feed that guy. You play to his 469 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: strengths in the Packers have allowed him to do that 470 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: to this point. Yeah, one last thing I want to 471 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: ask you about the Bears before we go, because I 472 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: made this comment in the Insider in No, it's not 473 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: about Eddie Panniero it's about Matt Nagy. And what I 474 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: want to ask you is that, okay, where the Bears 475 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: are there seven and six, they're looking at you know, 476 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: trying to keep this rolling to get themselves into the playoffs. 477 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: We saw Matt Naggi be extremely creative offensively last season 478 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: in his first year as the head coach, and I'm 479 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: wondering with what the stakes are going up against a 480 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: familiar opponent's second matchup with the Packers this year and everything. 481 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: It's Matt Nagy inn be digging into his bag of 482 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: tricks at Lambau Field. Potentially if we were going if 483 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: this was at Soldier Field, I would say, yes, I'm 484 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: glad you corrected me earlier because one of the things 485 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: that the Bears have been able to do on this 486 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: run is they've been back to back with these home games. 487 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I believe I remember correctly, So, I mean they've been 488 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: able to kind of rEFInd themselves at home, similar to 489 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: what the Packers have. Yeah, they did they beat They 490 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: beat the Lions well. In this stretch of winning four 491 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: out of five, they beatn the Lions twice, once in 492 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: each stadium. And then they also have the home win 493 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: over Dallas on Thursday night, now coming into Lambeau with 494 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: a little extra did they did they beat the Giants 495 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: in New York then too? I'm trying to remember, No, 496 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: that was in Chicago. That was in Chicago as well, 497 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: So I mean they've been able to kind of find 498 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: themselves back at home. So I'm curious, and there's probably 499 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: one of those get loud Lambau kind of days. But 500 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: this is the line, right, because you have Trubisky in 501 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: a good spot, how creative do you want to be 502 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: and potentially forcing him out of his comfort zone as 503 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: opposed to doing maybe some of the stuff that you 504 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: put on film the last couple of weeks but have 505 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: obviously worked for him. That's mattnegg question this week. It 506 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: would not surprise me, though, to see some of that creativity. 507 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Certainly the motion stuff is very popular with him. I 508 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: would imagine we're going to see some downfield shots because 509 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: that's the best way to take a road crowd out 510 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: of it. Um. So I think that I'm just I'm 511 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: gonna say, I think the Packers have to be have 512 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: to be ready for some tricks because if Mike Patton's 513 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: defense at all starts, the game does what it was 514 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: doing against the Bears back in Week one, and with 515 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: where the Bears are in their season right now, I 516 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: think it becomes pull out all the stops and and 517 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: Matt Naggi had. Matt Naggie's got a whole list on 518 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: that on that call sheet of stuff that he can 519 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: go to. I just I think the Packers have to 520 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: be prepared for anything. Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well with that, 521 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 522 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 523 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. You can subscribe to us 524 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: like us on iTunes and other podcast services, and check 525 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: out the Packers YouTube channel for all kinds of great 526 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: video content for West I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in everybody. 527 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Hmm.