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Speaker 2: You know, Adam Silver's had this problem for a while

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Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, So let's look at the playoffs and the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Odds via hard Rock Bet Chargers at the Patriots. Chargers

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Speaker 1: Totally agree. You know, Denver, we've seen this in college

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Speaker 2: looked like, if we lose this game and lose the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to play the NFC, South winner. I might just

429
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Speaker 2: go to Amazon. You could see it like this is

430
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: what because they look kind of lifeless. Jacoby Bruce said,

431
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: hit this bomb down the sideline and it got caught back.

432
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of where the game stop. The momentum

433
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: for Arizona because it felt like Arizona could score on

434
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: them every single time. You know, Like I thought part

435
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: of the Rams deal was their defense, and I started thinking,

436
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: whatever happened that night in Seattle when Seattle came storming back,

437
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: they lost their mojo. I mean, I know they came

438
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: back last monthing they were down twenty one nothing at

439
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: half on the road to Atlanta. I mean, I watched

440
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Speaker 2: Atlanta today. They're not you know, I know they got

441
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: some good players, but give me a break, especially when

442
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to play for seating like they were last week.

443
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: That was an important game. Sean mcvagh took that and

444
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: they were down twenty one nothing. My opinion has changed

445
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: dramatically on the Rams. I am not as against Carolina

446
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: for sure. I mean we need to enact something. If

447
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: you go under five hundred, you should not be able

448
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 2: to host a playoff game. That's sure. You could make

449
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: the argument that you shouldn't even be eligible for the

450
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Speaker 2: playoffs if other teams Minnesota, the Lions, some of these

451
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: other teams have better records than you.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's an argument to be made that

453
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Speaker 1: if you're under five hundred you can make the playoffs,

454
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Speaker 1: you can't host a playoff game. I'd be file that, Yeah,

455
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: so would I. You know the Rams, I've watched every

456
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: snap really all year long. And you see it with Goff,

457
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: you see it with Kirk Cousins, and you see it

458
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: with Stafford. When you do not have a mobile quarterback

459
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: as good as Stafford is, John, you can't roll the pocket.

460
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: You don't get those sort of off script third and

461
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: seven runs for first downs. There's about six to seven

462
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: times a game that a San Francisco or a Seattle

463
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Speaker 1: can roll the pocket. Pretty did it a couple times yesterday.

464
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Speaker 1: Sam did it once yesterday. You get those four or

465
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Speaker 1: five first downs a game because your quarterback is mobile,

466
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: or you can or you can escape when you have GoF,

467
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: when you have Stafford, when you have Cousins. If the

468
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: play that's designed doesn't work, it can get sideways. It

469
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Speaker 1: can be an ugly loss. And I feel like sometimes

470
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Speaker 1: the Rams get into these cycles where they've run through

471
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Speaker 1: their scripted stuff. They're there, you know, now it's McVeigh

472
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: on the play sheet looking for some new wiggles, and

473
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Speaker 1: they stall out. They have these quarters where they stall out,

474
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Speaker 1: where again, if I'm Shanahan, I can just start going

475
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Speaker 1: to boot stuff. Darnold does a lot of that. You

476
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Speaker 1: start doing bootstuff. You can do a little bit of

477
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: that with Stafford. But I do feel like watching the Rams,

478
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Speaker 1: they're susceptible in the back end. I mean, they got

479
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: a big break on that deep ball down the field

480
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: that was caught by Wilson and there was a penalty

481
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Speaker 1: and it was a legitimate pedally against an Arizona offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Wilson all killing them today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Wilson was left and right and I feel

484
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Speaker 1: a little bit like the Rams. This is why they

485
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Speaker 1: need to, you know, at some point, get a mobile

486
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Speaker 1: quarterback because their backups are Jimmy Garoppolo and Stetsan Bennett.

487
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: Those guys don't move e. I just feel like this offense,

488
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: for all the talent, stalls out. Well.

489
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Speaker 2: I think one thing to derail the offense because it

490
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: had kind of become and in its peak earlier in

491
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Speaker 2: the season. You know, like when you think back Denver

492
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Speaker 2: with Peyton Manning, they had so many weapons. I mean,

493
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Speaker 2: when you have Davante and Pokin Nakua, no one has

494
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: better than that. I think DeVante led the league for

495
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: receivers in touchdowns when he got injured. I don't know,

496
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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it today, but up until leading

497
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: up to this week, that's how dominant he was in

498
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Speaker 2: the red zone. So you factor him and with Pooka,

499
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: who feels like the averages double digit catches a game,

500
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: and then all their other just auxiliary weapons are kind

501
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: of an unstoppable offense. Will you remove him? It puts

502
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: so much pressure on Pooka Nakula. Their other weapons are fine,

503
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Speaker 2: but they get elevated into kind of taking over for

504
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: Davante and it becomes a little more difficult. Now, like

505
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Speaker 2: you said, over the course of the game, Arizona just

506
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: fell off. I mean, they have a million injuries. They're

507
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: rolling on mill Trey McBride's a good player, but they

508
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: got a lot of random guys out there. I do

509
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: think the health of DeVante, if you tell me he's

510
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Speaker 2: fully healthy, they get by the Panthers, then they are

511
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Speaker 2: I mean obviously a very very potent team coming into

512
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, but if you remove him, they are liable

513
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Speaker 2: to lose to anybody, not name the Panthers. Thing about Carolina,

514
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: unlike a lot of the Southern teams, like obviously Tampa,

515
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: CA And Rain, Carolina and Tennessee are two areas in

516
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: the South that can get cold. I mean, it could

517
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: just be a weird cold weather game. Well, they could

518
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: just make it weird. Now I'd be stunned if they won,

519
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: but I could see if the weather's weird, you just

520
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: never know. It's a long flight.

521
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Speaker 1: Also, t Mac and Laguette are big, long targets. The

522
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: Rams corners are small. They've been They've been beaten down

523
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Speaker 1: the field by large targets. So Carolina's got the kind

524
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: of versus AJ Brown is a is a nightmare matchup

525
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: for the Rams. And Carolina's got two long, athletic receivers,

526
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Speaker 1: so you can see them backdoor covering it scoring at

527
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Speaker 1: some point. I just I kind of feel when I

528
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Speaker 1: watch Carolina they just they Dan Morgan the GM. They

529
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: need six more draft picks and one more free agents

530
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Speaker 1: free agent month. They just don't have enough good players. Okay,

531
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers a six seed go to Philadelphia

532
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Philadelphia a three seed, and the Eagles are a touchdown favorite.

533
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: All right, So if Ricky Pierson and Trent Williams play

534
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: both missed the Seattle game, I think the Niners are

535
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: a live dog. But I will say Philadelphia can create pressure.

536
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: And I said this going into the Seattle game. I

537
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: took the Seahawks this weekend. Is that if you speed

538
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: brock pretty up, it's not a great old line, it's

539
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: a solid old line. If you speed brock pretty up,

540
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: you have a chance to make a few more mistakes.

541
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Speaker 1: He wasn't very comfortable against Seattle. I do think he's

542
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: cut down on the mistakes. I think he's had a.

543
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Hell of a year.

544
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Speaker 1: When he's healthy, I would take Philadelphia to win. I'm

545
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: not sure if i'd take him to cover, but I

546
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: do feel like if you go look at the Niners.

547
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I looked it up today. Since week six on, they've

548
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: lost to the Texans Rams in Seattle, if you have

549
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: an elite defense, you have such a defensive advantage over

550
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: them because they don't create any pressure. Sam Darnold was

551
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: very comfortable and Sala has to take big risks with

552
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Blitz packages to create any kind of rush, and the

553
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Texans Rams and Seattle beat them without having to do that,

554
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia will get somewhat of a pass rush without

555
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: having to bring extra bodies and compromise the secondary. So

556
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: if you look at what the Niners have done since

557
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Week six, they're wins. They're not beating teams with the

558
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: elite level defenses because they can't offer that. They they

559
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: just like when you watch that Seattle game, it was

560
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: thirteen to three, but it didn't feel like that. It

561
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: felt like twenty seven to three. It didn't feel that competitive.

562
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got they got murdered. The Niners proved they're

563
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: like an NBA team that wants to play in the

564
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: one twenties, one thirties. They want to get into a

565
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: high flying game where they could score a bunch of

566
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: points and just get to a position close to the

567
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: end of the game and hopefully they're coaching. And they

568
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: did it against Colts, and they did against the Bears.

569
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean they scored they won a game forty eight

570
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: or forty two to thirty eight. I mean that's how

571
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: they wanted to play. And the question was could they

572
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: get and win a game if it was like seventeen

573
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: to fifteen, because that's what that game last night was

574
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: gonna be. And their defense is really really bad, and

575
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: they lost their two linebackers last night, so I have

576
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: no clue. Now, the Eagles are the most talented team

577
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: that can look the most incompetent for stretches, probably in

578
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: my lifetime. I mean, they have so much elite talent

579
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: on their team it's crazy. And they got a quarterback

580
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: who can run, so to me, if they just have

581
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: a competent game plan, there's no way the Niners can

582
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: stop them, and their defense with Fangio is more than

583
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: competent enough to just slow them down. The other thing

584
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: the Niners. What Seattle did last night is run a

585
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: classic Kyle Shanahan in their peak team's game plan. We're

586
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: gonna shove the ball down your throat running the ball,

587
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: and we're gonna hit you so hard on every play.

588
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: We'll just wear you down. The scores in their heyday

589
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: doesn't the scorers weren't always blowouts, but we're gonna smother you.

590
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: Basically played a Shanahan game.

591
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 1: How many Niners last night, I don't remember. I remember

592
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: one Seahawk being slow to get up there had to

593
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: have been six different forty nine ers that literally got

594
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: either went to the tent or stayed on the ground.

595
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle beat San Francisco up for three and

596
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: a half hours, and pierceall and Trent didn't play. Kittle did.

597
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: He's still remarkable. I just feel like the Niners, the

598
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: gig is up, they're going to go out East. They're

599
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: out of bodies. There's just nothing they can do. I

600
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: think Philadelphia arrested a lot of their guys. Philadelphia. I

601
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Speaker 1: mean just I don't know. I just don't think San

602
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: Francisco's got the AMMO.

603
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I know the way the

604
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Eagles in that building internalized stuff they do have. They

605
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: think obviously most people do really highly of Kyle. That

606
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: is not an easy coaching staff. We talked about Jim

607
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Harbaugh getting you just get Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala

608
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: in the first round. Now, there's only so much Robert

609
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: Sala can do. But Kyle just got embarrassed. You know,

610
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: probably in front of thirty thirty five million people. They

611
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: are gonna have some stuff that they're gonna bring to Philadelphia.

612
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. If you can just make

613
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: it a little weird, right, maybe ten to seven year

614
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: up at halftime, that place will start booing you because

615
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: they already don't really like this team like they don't

616
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: because they're not an entertaining team to watch. So if

617
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: you can get them tight, that place can get tight.

618
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Because this Eagle season has been weird. If I would

619
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: have told you at the start of the day the

620
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Bears were gonna lose, he would have said, Oh, the

621
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Eagles are playing Washington, even with their backups. The Eagles

622
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: will be the two seed. And I look, the Eagles lose.

623
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: How's that? How do you lose? What the Bears losing?

624
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: If I would have been Sirianni and I look up

625
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: and they're down sixteen to nothing, I'm on the headsets. Hey,

626
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: we got a dial, we got a chance to be

627
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: the two seed. That's multiple home games. That is a massive,

628
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: massive advantage. They know what they I mean, They've been

629
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: the one seed multiple times. They understand the power of

630
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: playing home games in the playoffs. Now they might have

631
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: to go on the road.

632
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: I when I do my herd harchy, when I do

633
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: my herd hierarchy on Tuesday, I never know.

634
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: What to do with Philadelphia I don't trust them at all.

635
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what to do

636
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: with them. I love their talent, I don't know what

637
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: to do with them.

638
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: So I think all the pressure there is on Philly

639
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: and Sirianni and we just know that point, yes, and

640
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: that's we don't I don't know the game times yet,

641
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: but I I mean, that's got like Sunday Night football

642
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: written all over it. Right.

643
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: If you told me pierceal and Trent Williams and Kittle play,

644
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: that's a good live dog. They'll score, They'll they'll they'll score.

645
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: But God, and you know that of all the games

646
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about. So let's transition to this Green Bay

647
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: seven seed Bears, two seed. Yet the Bears have a

648
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: two game losing streak going into the playoffs. It is

649
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: according to hard Rock Bet, it is a pick em.

650
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: It is a pickum. Now here's the advantage for the Bears.

651
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: With Micah Parsons out. They don't generate much of a

652
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: pass rush, right, they got to They gotta scheme it

653
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: up like solid. They gotta take some chances, compromise the

654
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: back end of their defense. I think I like the

655
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Bears in this spot. You know it's it's watching them today.

656
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: I almost felt like they were overconfident, like they knew

657
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs. Then all of a sudden

658
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you're like, okay, touchdown, two point conversion.

659
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Touchdown two point conversion for the record, Colston Lovelin and

660
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. It is a thing now like Colston had

661
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: a day to day Luther Burden and colst At Luther

662
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: Burden and Caleb that's better now. So I like Chicago

663
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: in this spot. Again, it's a little bit of ammo.

664
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay kind of limps into it. Would would you

665
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: would you roll the dice and take the Bears here?

666
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 2: I would say both the Eagles and the Bears. If

667
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: you would have told them, hey, you get home playoff

668
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: game first round, you're the two and three seed, you

669
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: know six months ago, but you have to play the

670
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers and the San Franco forty nine ers,

671
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: they both would have been like, are you kidding me?

672
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: I think part of it is watching the Bears game today.

673
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: I give them a little bit of a pass. They

674
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: have this devastating loss right to the forty nine ers

675
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday night football. You're in the playoffs, you're guaranteed

676
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: a too ur, you're guaranteed a home game. Young team,

677
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: but their defense, Colin is not very good. It might

678
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: be a little bit better than the forty nine ers.

679
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: There are a lot of parallels. They're for the forty

680
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: nine ers and the Bears are kind of carbon copies

681
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: of each other.

682
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: They give up four hundred and forty yards to Detroit

683
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: today's bad weather.

684
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: There were guys wide open whatever Jared Goff was, Saint

685
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Brown coming across the middle, Jamis and William coming across

686
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: the middle. Their dB play that they give up a

687
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: lot of yards. We just saw the Niners score a

688
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: bunch of points on them. Now can Green Bay take

689
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: advantage of it? It feels like every time I look up

690
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Green Bay playing and meaningless game. They got guys on

691
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: the ground, so they have a ton of injuries. Their

692
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: defense is really banged up. Their offense, you know it

693
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: is Malik Willis a better option right now than Jordan Love.

694
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean they got a lot

695
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: of question marks in that organization. You got a coach

696
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: playing for you know, coaching for a contract extension. But

697
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: that is a weird. There's not a Bears fan. You

698
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: live around a lot of them. Now they're comfortable with

699
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: that matchup. You've had this magical season. You're the freaking

700
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: two seed and you get the Green Bay Packers. Even

701
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: if they come limping in and everyone's gonna be picking you,

702
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Everyone's gonna be picking the Bears. I

703
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 2: could just see that thing can get weird as well.

704
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: That I'd say the Packers technically not a dog, but

705
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: a live dog in that situation for being a team

706
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: that no one's.

707
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Gonna pick, you know, with Chicago and they have a

708
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: playmaker at safety. They have eleven catches almost one hundred

709
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: and fifty yards to on save Brown.

710
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: He was why dominating.

711
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you look at the NFC, DeVante Adams

712
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: will be back, AJ Brown will be back San Francisco

713
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: with Piersall and Jennings those guys. Those guys are playmakers.

714
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: So Chicago is the kind of team that they're you know,

715
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: they remind me a little of the Rams where I

716
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: don't trust the back end of their defense. They can

717
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: really unimpress you. And then you look up and the

718
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Bears in the Rams can put two or three drives

719
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: together in a row in the second half and you're like, Okay,

720
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: all right, this is explosive. I mean Caleb still makes throws.

721
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean he made a couple today on those two

722
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: scoring drives.

723
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: Like he is.

724
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: He is, so he's got a physical confidence. Like when

725
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: he rolls back to throw and he's and he's rolling

726
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: to his right, he's toying with the defensive players. He's

727
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: just kind of playing with him. He's going back and forth.

728
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: He's totally If Stafford rolls right, he's not controlling it.

729
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: He's waiting for somebody to quickly get open. When Caleb

730
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: rolls right, he he can do a high school pivot

731
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: and say I'm gonna run backwards. I'm just gonna buy

732
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: something like Josh Allen does that occasionally. Like guys, I'm

733
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: controlling this situation. I think I like Chicago in this spot.

734
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I really do like how Cold Loveland and Caleb have

735
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: really created something special. Like today, it was incredible. Every

736
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: big play it was Coleston Loveland. They really used their

737
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: tight ends. Cole Comet at a two point conversion two.

738
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: That that place is going to be pretty special on

739
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: that in that game. I mean, that's that's what we talked about.

740
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: Home Field advantage. They haven't once. They haven't made the

741
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: playoffs in a while. Definitely haven't made the playoffs as

742
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: a team people think can win a couple of games.

743
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: It's that that atmosphere a couple of weeks ago when

744
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: they played Green Bay had to be one of the

745
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: more special games of the year, just in terms of

746
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: watching it on TV as a viewer, I think there's

747
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: a chance that place is absolutely I mean, it's going

748
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: to be rocking. It's it's going to be really really cool.

749
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: And can they feed into that and maybe that helps

750
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: the defense out a little bit. They just they have

751
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: probably less injuries than the Niners. Their talent on defense

752
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: is just not great. You know, the front sevens that good.

753
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: They don't have a great pass rusher. They basically just

754
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: got to score a bunch of points.

755
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Well, they spent money, Joe Tooney, Drew Jonah Jackson, They're spent.

756
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: They're paying money for DJ more. Listen, they spent their

757
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: money on offense.

758
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: Two picks and Loveland Luther Burden first round and second

759
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: round pick. Offense.

760
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that Ben Johnson said, basically, let me get

761
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: the offense right, we're gonna win some shootouts. I think

762
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: they're ahead of schedule. I think they've been humbled a

763
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: little bit. There's there's certainly a debate John that a

764
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: little losing streak going into the playoffs is not a

765
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: terrible thing for a young team kind of energizes them,

766
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: sort of a hey, wake up call. I'm say with

767
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the Rams, I mean the Rams about six weeks ago,

768
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: we're like, are they a touchdown better than the League Rams?

769
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: A little bit of a wake up call? Long season?

770
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's we see this in baseball with the Dodgers.

771
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Have you noticed like this year they were sleepwalking.

772
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: They turned into the Warriors. They didn't even care.

773
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: Like the Dodgers got swept by Milwaukee. They lost six

774
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: out of six games to Milwaukee. Then you watch the playoffs.

775
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: They tweaked their bullpen. It's hard to ask. The NFL

776
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: seasons never been longer, it's never been more popular, There's

777
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: never been more media and press. It's a weighty season.

778
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: You're not going to get a team playing great for

779
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks. The Rams about six weeks ago peaked, and

780
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I think I don't think they're a worse team. You

781
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: get banged up a go either way player like DeVonta

782
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Adams has a hammy. Just sit it out. We've got

783
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: to get these young guys ready. Anyway, I kind of

784
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: feel like Chicago about four weeks ago peak feeling good.

785
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, now you're like, okay,

786
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: you've done the motivational speeches. The team loves it. You

787
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: can't ask a bunch of guys that Bears locker room's

788
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: got some young dudes. You're not getting the same team

789
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: every week. So I kind of feel like the Rams

790
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: and the Bears. It feels like they peaked a month ago.

791
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: I think they're both going to win their opening games.

792
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about it. The Raiders did win

793
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: fourteen twelve over Kansas City. Pete Carroll at seventy five

794
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: reportedly now various reports that Kevin Stefanski, who by the way,

795
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: took Shader Sanders into Cincinnati and beat Joe Burrow twenty

796
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: to eighteen. Kevin Stefanski will be let go. I would

797
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: not do that. Pete Carroll will be let go. Pete

798
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: cares deeply. Sons on the staff that didn't play well

799
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Chip Kelly left during the season. I think

800
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: Pete's in big trouble. There is a story I think

801
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: it was Pro Football Talk Brian Flores head coach, Brian Dable,

802
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. There was a talk about, you know, Brady's saying,

803
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get Brian Flores from New England. Let's

804
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: just let's talk about that first. Because most teams that

805
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: lose or are bad. I think Stefanski will get a

806
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: job in this cycle. Do you agree?

807
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I mean the candidates are terrible, so you know,

808
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: he's already proven that he can coach offense, coach the quarterback.

809
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: Even though this year has been a disaster, He's proven

810
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: it time and time again. I think the league thinks

811
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: more highly of him than It's not that I have

812
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: anything against him. I don't think he's a little overrated.

813
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: But there's also a lot of variables in that building.

814
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: The situation this year was pretty bizarre. How much was

815
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: he involved in it? How much was he not? It's

816
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: always hard to tell when you have a dysfunctional place.

817
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: But I say the same thing for the Raiders. You know,

818
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: if they're hiring Flores and day Ball, that's clearly a

819
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: Brady led deal. Mark Davis did this a couple of

820
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: years ago with Josh McDaniels. He brought in the Patriot way,

821
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: and Josh McDaniels was a rehab guy. He started journaling.

822
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: He's like all this stuff. Dan Pompey wrote that I

823
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: bought into it. I'm like, he's gonna be good. He

824
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: didn't last two years. Flora's kind of similar thing. No

825
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: one did. Josh McDaniels is an elite offensive coordinator. Doesn't

826
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: get any better. He's right there with non head coaches.

827
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: It's probably the best in the league. Brian Flores is

828
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: an elite defensive coordinator, right there with the best in

829
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: the league. But I saw him, he like made to

830
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: a cry. He couldn't function to it and listen, we

831
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: can debate to it. Mike and Danias started going to

832
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs with Toua dealing with so Fernando Mendoza, you're

833
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: just gonna draft this guy based on his history and

834
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: to me that I'm sorry, the Patriot history. That scares

835
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: the you know what out of me, because these guys

836
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: they always say they change and they play nice when

837
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: they're the number two, and then they get the boss

838
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: and they kind of become Bill again. It starts rubbing

839
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: people the wrong way. Here's the other thing, Dave Ball

840
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Dave all runs people the wrong way that they'd be

841
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: a lot to bring into a building that just I

842
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, Pete Carroll brought brings tender love

843
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: and carry to more uplifting guy. So I think sometimes

844
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: you shift the other way. But they've done this before,

845
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: specifically with the New England thing, and it was a

846
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: historic disaster for Mark Davis, and props to him. He

847
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: got out of it quick because his players are basically like,

848
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna quit. So I think there's a lot of

849
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing Brian Flores, the defensive coordinator, but we

850
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: can't act like that's not very risky based on his

851
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: previous history with the court back and now they're going

852
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: to draft Fernando Mendoza number one overall.

853
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Well, Mangini, who's my buddy, had two head coaching jobs.

854
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels had two coaching jobs. So a lot of

855
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: the Patriot guys, they get a job, it doesn't work,

856
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: they get a second job. And I like, Eric's a

857
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: good friend of mine and Josh McDaniels is not a

858
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: good friend, but it's a texting friend. And I think

859
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: Josh is probably the best offensive coordinator in the laite.

860
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: He's elite.

861
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: I think he's great. He's I mean, Rabel's a smart guy. Belichick, Brady,

862
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: They're all like, this is the guy. I think it's

863
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: a legitimate concern. Flores is hyper intense, so is day Ball.

864
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: And it's interesting when.

865
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: I look what I would do if I was the Raiders,

866
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: I would hire.

867
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, same who I would hire Stefanski, I would

868
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: give him Mendoza. I think Stefanski's not a yeller. He's

869
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: more of a teacher. Mendoza's personality, he's intensity. I mean,

870
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: he's They have to fix their offensive line. You know

871
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: they got Rock Bauers, Nasht and Genty, but the Raiders

872
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: have to fix the old line. It's a mess. And

873
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: again you're gonna go Antonio Pierce to Pete Carroll, de

874
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Brian Flores guys, the sports going the other way, totally right,

875
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: the sports going with offensive guys. I would go get

876
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. I don't know's it's just it's interesting to me.

877
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Patriot guy because Rabel's a guy that

878
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily.

879
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: He didn't coach there these guys all coast. This guy

880
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: was a player, you know, his coaching slawyer was in

881
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: Houston and Ohio state.

882
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: And Rabel takes shots at Belichick, and Rabel kind of

883
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: pokes him. Yeah, he didn't like him. He pokes Bill

884
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: all the time. He's a more player friendly, so he

885
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: doesn't Frabel doesn't buy into Belichick's legacy or bullshit. And

886
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: a lot of Bill's stuff is you know, I want

887
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: a lot of rings here. It's like, Bill, your last

888
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: five years are embarrassing period.

889
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of reservations. And like I said,

890
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Stefanski guy, but if I had

891
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: to compare Stefanski to Flores, if I have this quarterback prospect,

892
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't even think twice. The other thing is if

893
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm on the Mendoza camp and we get this package

894
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: based on what I saw happen with the Tua situation,

895
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: I'd be very nervous. This organization in itself has just

896
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: proven to be as chaotic as any right. I mean, listen,

897
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, he is won for twenty plus years. He

898
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: goes to the Raiders, he has the worst season of

899
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: his career, of his I can't put it all on.

900
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: I think there's some organizational stink. So if I'm Fernando Mendoza,

901
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: any of these teams you're gonna go to high would

902
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: have had some stink around them. But if I'm very

903
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: dialed in on who you're bringing in, I need to communicate.

904
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: Not that I'm picking your coach, but this is my career.

905
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they could get very bad, and we see

906
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: what happens when you bring in the wrong guy with

907
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: some of these young quarterbacks. I saw your thing today

908
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: on Sam Darnold, Like it's not always the player's fault.

909
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Organizations really derail a lot of humans more than humans

910
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: derail organizations.

911
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Look at the four top drafters Vegas ownership issues, Jets

912
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: ownership issues, Arizona Bidwell ownership issues, Tennessee political ownership questions.

913
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Then the Giants fifth. Giants have lost thirty of their

914
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: last thirty eight games. These are, by and large organizations

915
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: that struggle at the very top. Now, the Mars obviously

916
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: going through a really difficult time physically with some health issues,

917
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: but the Giants have been an offensive disaster for years.

918
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the good news is they have Jackson Dark.

919
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I actually think the Giants have some good players. I

920
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: just don't think they've had good leadership. The other four

921
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: teams are a mess. But yeah, I mean to me,

922
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: it feels so obvious. I the other thing about Belichick

923
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: in the Patriot Way, Bill was not a teacher like Nick.

924
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Saban has some qualities Like if you listen to Kurt

925
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Signetty or Lane Kiffin or Sark, they'll tell you I

926
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: learn more in a year with Saban. Sir Kurt Signetti says,

927
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: I learn more in a year with Saban than my

928
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: previous twenty five with all of our coaches. Andy Reid

929
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: has that, and he's like a school teacher. Bill's not.

930
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Bill's like being you know what Bill's like. He's like

931
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: being the right hand man to Elon Musk or Steve Jobs.

932
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Proximity to brilliance isn't shared. Bill's not giving you the

933
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: secret sauce. Bill's criticizing you. Bill's running it. Bill's not

934
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: sharing power. So my point is with Bill, Well, I

935
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: was Bill's assistant. It doesn't mean much Andy's assistant, mcveag's assistant.

936
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Those are more collaborative, communicative teachers and mentors. Mike Holmgren,

937
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, you talk I mean, people always think Saban

938
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: and Belichick are the same. No, they're not. Nick Saban's funny.

939
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's a great storyteller. Nick Saban is like fun

940
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: to be around. Nick Saban shares he is a teacher.

941
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: He's teaching his players, he's teaching his coaches. He's a listener.

942
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Saban acknowledges that Lane Kiffen really made him

943
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: a better coach. Lane obviously says Saban made me a

944
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: better coach. But Saban's like, listen, Lane was beating me

945
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: up and down the field with his offense at practice,

946
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, we got to become a wide receiver

947
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: and a quarterback, you, not a linebacker corner you. So

948
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: this idea about the Patriot way, it just doesn't work.

949
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: In fact, the one Patriot that pokes that really didn't

950
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: get along with Belichick or Brady left and won a

951
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and Vrabel left and has had success. And

952
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: those are the two guys that really didn't necessarily like.

953
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: Bill, and I think a lot of players have talked

954
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: the Patriot Way was enabled and controlled by Tom because

955
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Bill could ride him like he was a practice squad

956
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: player and he was the best player in the league

957
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: that doesn't exist. And it not only doesn't exist. It's

958
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: not that Andy doesn't coach mahomes hard or you know,

959
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: Kyle doesn't ride Fred Warner, but clearly the I mean

960
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: Bill's started coaching in nineteen seventy five in the NFL,

961
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: like he's from a way different generation. On top of

962
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: his personality, it's just a lot different now. The one

963
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: thing I would say about Flores, Kevin O'Connell is much

964
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: more of a new school, progressive, lighter offensive mind. He's

965
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: been around him for a couple of years. I just

966
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 2: think it's a pretty big risk based on those guys

967
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: with that as your main resume thing. I'm a patriot

968
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: guy and most of my career and the way I

969
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: became famous was under that guy. It has been a debacle,

970
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: hasn't been for the personnel guys. You know why, because

971
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: the personnel guys never agreed with Bill. He never picked

972
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: their players. They're all sitting there in the draft room, like, Bill,

973
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: we told you not to do this. He's like, well,

974
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: Herm Edwards told me to pick him. He's like, well, Bill,

975
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: we had him graded in the third round. And that's

976
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: why I think the personnel guys because they always had

977
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: their own draft board, the coaching ideas, and I don't

978
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: blame any of them. They're winning super bowls, they're like,

979
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: this guy's a genius. It doesn't work. That's not especially

980
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. The way these players even look

981
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: at Signetty, who you'd think, you know, guy in his sixties,

982
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: old school, hard ass. I actually feel like he's kind

983
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: of lighthearted. And you know, I would imagine most of

984
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: the players they clearly like playing for them. So I

985
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: think it's I think the Raiders are a tough spots.

986
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: Like a lot of these teams look at the candidates

987
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: that there's not Ben Johnson's and Sean mcvay's and Kyle

988
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Shanahan's that you go, let's hire that offensive guy. They

989
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: just don't really exist. Diana Roussini wrote in her article

990
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: that a lot of unnamed gms are like, it's not

991
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: a good year for candidates. You're kind of stretching. And

992
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: you know that's why Stefanski guy, like if Tomlin or

993
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: Harbaugh let go, they would be hired. I would say

994
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: in forty eight hours.

995
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: All right, College Football Summi Finals, hard Rock bet Miami

996
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: minus three and a half against Old Miss. I'm gonna

997
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: take Trinidad Chambliss to cover the spread. I think Miami's

998
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna win the game, but I don't think it's high scoring.

999
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: I think they'll really listen. All Miss is going as

1000
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate underdog. Everybody thinks they're the fourth of four,

1001
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: which also illustrates the drop in the SEC. Bruce Feldman

1002
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: has a fascinating article today, several sources anonymously saying nobody

1003
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: wants to admit this, and people joke about it, but

1004
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: it's true. When everybody can pay their players, where do

1005
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: you want to play at twenty one years old, Miami, Austin,

1006
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Texas or Alabama? That Alabama just doesn't have the players.

1007
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: George's defense there was a great quote in the Bruce

1008
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Feldman article. He's like, it's not that Georgia doesn't have

1009
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: great players, they have no depth. If Georgia goes into

1010
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: a season with three Sunday wide receivers, one transfers out

1011
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: right before the season, one gets hurt. They're a one

1012
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: receiver team. Their backups are no different than ordinary players.

1013
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case five years ago, when Bama, LSU,

1014
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State could stockpile Georgia could stockpile, they'd have six

1015
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: corners that would all play on Sundays. But now kids

1016
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: backups are leaving, They're leaving Ohio State. I mean, you

1017
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: saw Ohio State lost those two running backs. That offense

1018
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: scored fourteen against Texas, ten against Indiana, and fourteen against Miami.

1019
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: That offense for Ohio State was really average, average O line,

1020
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: average run game. So I like Mississippi to cover. I

1021
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: think it's, you know, twenty four twenty three ish. I

1022
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: think it's a really exciting game. Chandliss gives them a

1023
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: shot to win the game. But I like Miami.

1024
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Miami and I'll take them to cover.

1025
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: I do think they had already played Georgia. If you

1026
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: could have told them they could win a playoff game

1027
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: against any team in the country, it all be SEC teams.

1028
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: It'd be lsu'd be Alabama, and be Georgia. That that was

1029
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: a super Bowl like win for that program. It's the

1030
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: biggest win in the history of the program, definitely in

1031
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: the last since they won a national championship in like

1032
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: the fifties or the s sixties. I do think Miami's

1033
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: on a little bit less different level than Georgia from

1034
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: a physical standpoint. Definitely, the defensive line now Chambliss, Yes,

1035
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's about as good as you can play.

1036
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: He looked like he was Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson

1037
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: in this prime. He was incredible. But Georgia is not

1038
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: the Georgia team that we're used to seeing now. They

1039
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: just have the same head coach. I think Miami has

1040
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: actually more similarities with some of Kirby's teams like two

1041
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: or three years ago, and text of my scouting buddies

1042
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: they say that roster is about as good as money

1043
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: can buy right now in twenty twenty five. And the

1044
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, their offensive line's got to average three

1045
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pounds and that's you know, with

1046
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: multiple guys probably closer to three fifty. They are huge,

1047
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: physical and the defensive line is a bunch of pros.

1048
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: Other dbats hit. You said that you thought Indiana was

1049
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: the best tackling team. I would say Miami is the

1050
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: most violent team. They hit, and they hit violent.

1051
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: Mind me of last year's Ohio State team when they

1052
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: lost to Michigan and the next week against Tennessee, you

1053
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: could tell the volunteers were intimidated, murdered. They weren't pissed

1054
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: off physically. Yeah, Miami's intimidating. All great Miami teams have

1055
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: always had sort of a I don't know, it's just

1056
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: sort of a Miami is.

1057
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: A legit shot to win the National Championship right now.

1058
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: They win this game, they get a home game for

1059
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: the National Championship. Their physicality will will match Indiana's or Oregons,

1060
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: whoever wins that game. I think Miami is good. Carson

1061
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: Beck's playing solid.

1062
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was texting Feldman. I said, I watched Miami

1063
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: mid season. So I watched them play Notre d Am. I'm like, okay,

1064
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Then I watched them play mid season. I'm like, eh,

1065
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: it's an average team. You can't when you bring in

1066
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: seven or eight, ten or twelve transfers, John, you can't

1067
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: judge teams in October. Miami doesn't even look like the

1068
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: team in mid October. They don't even look and play

1069
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: the same. They're not Carson Beck reliant. They're much more physical.

1070
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: They're much more confident as a team. So I think

1071
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: the Transfer Portal has done a lot of things. One

1072
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: of them is it's hard to judge teams mid season.

1073
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: Last year, you know, you bring in Ohio State, brings

1074
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: in six or seven high end guy. They didn't peak

1075
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: till the playoff. Miami didn't peak until you know that

1076
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game. To me when they beat him thirty eight

1077
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: to seven, and Pittsburgh's not very good, but the way

1078
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: in which they threw them around the field, it was

1079
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: like Jesus, this is intimidating, all right. Oregon at Indiana

1080
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: hard rock bet Hoosiers minus three and a half. They

1081
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: beat him in nottson. I'm gonna take Indiana to win

1082
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: and cover. They don't make mistakes. I mean they literally

1083
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: do not make mistakes. Oregon, we saw against Texas Tech,

1084
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: is a flawed team. The quarterback needs about another fifteen starts.

1085
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: Oregon is good, but Oregon can be lured in the mistakes.

1086
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: And Indiana is about the best coach team. It reminds

1087
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: me when I was a kid growing up, we had

1088
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: Don James and the Huskies. And I'm dating myself here,

1089
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: but the Huskies always had a really good talent in

1090
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks, tackling, great special teams, great always won the

1091
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: turnover battle. And you look up and they were in

1092
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: another Rose Bowl, and you're like, well, they're probably the

1093
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: sixth most talented team in the country. They won a

1094
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: national championship, that was their most talented team. But Indiana

1095
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: has that feeling where it's you have to beat them soundly.

1096
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching that game against Alabama, I'm like,

1097
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: that's as well coached a team for three and a

1098
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: half hours as I've ever seen in my life.

1099
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will agree with you because obviously they're the

1100
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: last two games. I mean, to beat Ohio State like

1101
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: they did and then to throttle Alabama was pretty incredible.

1102
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: But let's face it, no one was picking them against

1103
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: Ohio State, so it was easy for Dunaty to play

1104
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: the underdog even against Alabama. The entire vibe leading up

1105
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: to the game, like, what's it like playing this dynasty?

1106
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: The mystique of Alabama had where Dan Lanning Really the

1107
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: last couple of years, he's been favored in all these games.

1108
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: Even last year when heade Ohio State, people thought he

1109
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: was the one seed. He's gonna play Ohio State. It's

1110
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: not like they viewed them not as equals. This is

1111
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: the first time Dan Lanning has been viewed like you're

1112
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: an underdog, everyone thinks you're gonna win, and he's great

1113
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: at these like raw Ross speeches. He goes viral in

1114
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: the locker room. Most of the time. His team's a

1115
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: double digit favorite in those games. Doing that he really

1116
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: gets to do. For the first no one thinks we're

1117
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: gonna win, and he's not lying. No one thinks they're

1118
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: gonna win. I think I'm gonna take Indiana because I

1119
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: can't forget what I just saw in Oregon was a

1120
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: little weird to text against text sex. What a tex

1121
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: Tex defense is just really that good. I mean they

1122
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: might have think like two or second or third pick

1123
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: in the draft. There are other guys on the front

1124
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: seven are fantastic. Their quarterback just happened to play like

1125
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: he was me, but that was not I think that

1126
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: wins a little more impressive than they're probably gonna get

1127
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: credit for. I mean, Tech, Utah and BYU I think

1128
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: we'd both agree, or what top fifteen type teams. They

1129
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: killed b YU twice in Utah once killed them well,

1130
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: obviously the quarterback was what if that's Oregon's defense. They

1131
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: have a lot of younger guys that maybe aren't like

1132
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith or Caleb Downs or Fernando Mendoz, the true

1133
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: household names. I do just think this is a prime

1134
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: spot for Dan Lanning when he truly gets to play

1135
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: the underdog and every and it's gonna be unique for

1136
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: Signetty because for two years he's been kicking most people's ass.

1137
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: No one thought he was ever gonna win most of

1138
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: those games. No no one thought he was gonna go to

1139
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Austin and win. No one thought he's gonna State. He

1140
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: didn't get to Alabama like Alabama in this game. Overwhelming favorite.

1141
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: But people, I bet if you talk to most people

1142
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: that I think is gonna win national championship. I think

1143
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: Indiana's gonna win the national championship. So I just think

1144
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning can really this is I would say what

1145
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: he excels at. Now. He has two coordinators who are

1146
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: leaving that I said, Kentucky's in the transfer so they

1147
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: they're getting kind of Warren thin because they're just I'm

1148
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: sure transfer portal not sleeping much. That could be a

1149
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, a point of separation. Indiana doesn't have to

1150
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: worry about it. That'd be the only thing that makes nervous.

1151
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: But I expect Oregon to Indiana's great. I mean, there's

1152
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: no dispute. I think Oregon's gonna bring it. I mean

1153
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: they got this is a very talented team.

1154
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The you know, Mendoza. I heard an interesting

1155
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: comp for Mendoza. People are saying he's Matt Ryan. Now

1156
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: he's bigger than Matt Ryan. I think he has a

1157
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: more powerful arm than Matt Ryan, and his is a

1158
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: little bit more mobile than Matt Ryan. So I think

1159
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't like that comp.

1160
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan was much more of a statue like it

1161
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: to me, was Mendoza strong arm.

1162
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what Mendoza's comp is. There's personality wise,

1163
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: there's a little Andrew Luck where he's just oh gosh, geez,

1164
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: very much a giver, not a taker, super mature, very

1165
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: much on message. He reminds me of Andrew Luck above

1166
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: the shoulders. I think Andrew Luck. People questioned his arm strength.

1167
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: I think Mendoza he's got a really good arm, like

1168
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: a really good arm, and in the big ten you're throwing,

1169
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: you're throwing in crappy weather all the time.

1170
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I the parallel to Ryan. The maturity, you know,

1171
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: he just feels like a grown up.

1172
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: That's the Mendoza is one of those guys that he

1173
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: may not be a great scrambler, but John he's six'

1174
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: five to forty. Ish those guys are you, know small.

1175
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: Corners when they tackle, him the quarterback rolls over him

1176
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: gets an extra three. Yards LIKE i Think mendoza is

1177
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: AN a, PROSPECT i don't think he's AN a plus

1178
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: prospect BECAUSE i don't THINK i don't think he has

1179
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: a huge, arm nor DO i think He's Josh allen the.

1180
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: Athlete But I'M i think he's about as good a

1181
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: prospect all things. IN i, MEAN i get the col

1182
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: years where he had to overcome marginal. Talent THEN i

1183
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: get The indiana years where he played with SOME nfl.

1184
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: Bodies he's played in big stadiums on the. Road he's

1185
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: Played Ohio, state he's Played Penn, State he's played top.

1186
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 1: Tiers he's played At. OTSON i think he's a really good.

1187
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: Prospect to, YOU i DEFINITELY i was gonna look Up

1188
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 2: Trevor lawrence coming out of. College trevor was a better,

1189
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: athlete for, sure he moved, better but not by that.

1190
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: MUCH i Feel mendoza is, thicker and you Know trevor

1191
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: a lot Like Andrew. Locke people went arm's, good not.

1192
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: Great andrew had no, issue And trevor a lot through his,

1193
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: career he'd be, like this is good. Enough this year

1194
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: HE'S i don't, know his arm looks. FANTASTIC i would

1195
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: put him kind of in that vein on the lower

1196
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: end lux an all time. Prospect Trevor lawrence was viewed

1197
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: as like a luck you. KNOW i wouldn't say a perfect,

1198
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: prospect but a high end. PROSPECT i would Put Fernando

1199
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: mendoza under. THAT i think he's no brainer number one

1200
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: based on this. CLASS i think when you look in recent,

1201
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: Classes Trevor, OR i Mean caleb had more. Horsepower jaden

1202
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: was more unique with his legs and had a fantastic

1203
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: season in THE. Sec Remember shaddon records won The. HEISMAN

1204
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: i would Say Drake may felt like he had a

1205
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: little more. UPSIDE i don't know if that's fair or,

1206
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: not But i'd put him in that class with those

1207
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: guys LIKE i think he would have been spoken he's

1208
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: a legitimate one or two prospect in most. DRAFTS i

1209
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: would say at the quarterback, position you, know and that's

1210
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: all you really ask for if you're The. Raiders and

1211
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: then when you factor in the character. STUFF i Remember

1212
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Drew brees said this years. Ago he's like playing quarterbacks

1213
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: way more, fifty you, know fifty to, fifty you, know

1214
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: skill versus. Upstairs he's, like he's like seventy five upstairs,

1215
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: thinking changing at the, line knowing going into the game

1216
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: before it's it becomes so much about, Intelligence and sometimes

1217
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: intelligence doesn't mean just your book smart but just your

1218
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: ability to understand, football your football, iq your football, memory

1219
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: than the intangibles of like. TOUGHNESS i, mean you saw

1220
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: Brock purty last. NIGHT i mean there are a couple

1221
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: of TIMES i was, like this guy just get. Killed

1222
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: oh he got.

1223
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Bakes oh my.

1224
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: God but you know Why Trent williams And fred warn

1225
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 2: those guys love him because you're not going to knock

1226
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: him out of the. Game he crawled off the field

1227
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: and THAT i remember growing. Up Steve young was a

1228
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: lot like. That that's you gotta be like that in,

1229
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: football and looks Like mendoza has. That the other thing

1230
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: is game just translates because you watch him in AN nfl.

1231
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: OFFENSE i think he's a fantastic. PLAYER i, mean he's

1232
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: he's been really. GOOD i feel like in crunch moments

1233
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: in That oregon, game he threw that pick. SIX i

1234
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: had some buddies that were there from a scouting, perspective

1235
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: and they're, like he bounced right, back drove him on

1236
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: a big. Drive that's. Key people love in THE nfl

1237
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: when you screw up and they want to watch how you,

1238
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: respond like playing in some of these, games Like Fernando

1239
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: mendoza that game he just played Against. Alabama after the

1240
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: first couple of, drives once they start curb stomping and

1241
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't you know. What they like That Ohio state

1242
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: game when the first play of the game he got

1243
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: hit Like perty did In. Seattle two plays later he's

1244
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: running back on the. Field you're, like damn this. Guy

1245
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: this guy's pretty. Tough and then he's making those throughout that.

1246
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: Game LIKE i would, SAY i learned way more about

1247
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: him in that game than ANYTHING i took away from

1248
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: The alabama. Game That Ohio state, GAME i DON'T i

1249
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: don't even have any clue what his box score. Was

1250
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: that was AN nfl environment against you Playing, houston Playing,

1251
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: seattle just getting. Crunched there're gonna be a couple throws

1252
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: do you have to make because that's the only way

1253
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 2: you're gonna. Win and he made. Them and that's kind

1254
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: of what THE nfl. Becomes it's not you're not blowing

1255
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: how many games even today you look, up most of

1256
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: them are. Tight you're not flowing out people thirty eight

1257
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: to three very often think about.

1258
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: This how many times have we seen it in the

1259
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: last three. Weeks Sam donald's teammates come out publicly and support.

1260
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: HIM i mean it's like every week there's like two

1261
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: guys are, like you guys don't understand. It we love this.

1262
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: GUY i mean they're not even poked or prodded LIKE

1263
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: i was Texting John snyder or The SEAHAWKS gm. Today

1264
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: they Love sam. McDonald anytime he, goes he's, like he's our.

1265
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: Guy this is our.

1266
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: Guy.

1267
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota kevin, O'Connell there was a story Today kevin O'Connell

1268
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: Called shanahan after the. Deal he's like everybody in the

1269
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: locker room Loved. Sam Russell wilson was getting The Super,

1270
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: bowls had like two players his, Wedding like there's just

1271
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: something to be said about being a guy's. Got brady was,

1272
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: rich super model. Wife everybody Loved. Brady Randy moss Leaves

1273
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: New england never takes a shot At. Brady brady's never

1274
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: had a guy take a shot at him that he

1275
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: ever played. With Antonio brown's you, know off the rails

1276
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: to count, him, right BUT i, mean by and, large

1277
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: breeze guys retire that play With, drew they cry his offensive,

1278
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: lineman go to the, podium they, Cry they're, LIKE i Love.

1279
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: Drew That's donald's thing like, people And mendoza's got. That

1280
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: you can just tell the players love him because He

1281
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are already get all the. Attention mendoz is, like, no

1282
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: it's not, me it's the. Guys donald same, way and you,

1283
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: say you, know we talked ABOUT. IQ i think a

1284
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: lot of IT'S. EQ i think they're really good quarterbacks

1285
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: have an ability to. Understand, Listen i'm the one getting.

1286
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: Paid i'm the one getting. Attention you know, What seattle's GOT.

1287
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: A donald's on an incredibly team friendly. DEAL. B he's

1288
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: playing really well and he's. PRODUCTIVE. C they don't miss

1289
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: on draft. Picks. John you look at that. Roster they

1290
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: could use another. Corner everybody in the league. Could they

1291
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: could use another interior offensive lineman almost every team in

1292
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: the league, could and another edge rusher, again there are certain.

1293
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: Positions you could always draft a corner and an edge

1294
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: rusher in this, league everybody needs. Them when You're seattle

1295
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: is scary because the three things. Equal and this was

1296
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: when you weren't Paying Russell wilson. Anything remember he was

1297
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: a third round pick And pete's first two or three

1298
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: years in the. League he was a great drafter because

1299
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: he recruited all these college guys And seattle had about

1300
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: a three year run where they just go. Out you,

1301
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: Know Percy harvin or A Cliff averril was, like we

1302
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: don't even need you to play all the, games just

1303
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: be ready for the big. Games that's the scary part About.

1304
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: Seattle their last four, years their first nine, picks they're

1305
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: nine for. Nine then they find A Montana state guy

1306
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: undrafted that plays in the back. End LIKE i, mean

1307
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: when you have a team friendly deal for your quarterback

1308
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: and he's producing in an a level sixty million dollars

1309
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: a year quarterback, level and you don't miss on your top.

1310
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: Picks IF i had to pick a team to win

1311
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: The Super bowl, today it would Be.

1312
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: Seattle, well their coach is a dominant defensive. MIND i

1313
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: mean what he did to who Makes kyle look like.

1314
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: That The niners had like twenty yards fresh a non

1315
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: factory dominated, him absolutely took him out of the. Game

1316
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: i'm telling, You seattle played like The niners want to.

1317
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: Play they controlled the ball for forty. Minutes they ran

1318
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: for almost two hundred. Yards sam HAD i think twenty

1319
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: five or twenty six. Attempts that's in That kubiak and

1320
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: The kubiaks might as well be The shanahan's, cousins, right football.

1321
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: Cousins they're all running the same. Thing and McDonald now

1322
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: kind of has a little history Against shanahan's, offense going

1323
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: back To, baltimore even earlier this, year he's been pretty

1324
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: successful against. Him that's a huge Curveball john hiring, him

1325
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: getting this offense or defensive. Mastermind when you got McVeigh

1326
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: And shanahan in the conference and then your defense is

1327
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: just loaded with talent already and clearly the em and

1328
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: worry that they. Hit one thing that The sherman teams

1329
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: did is all their DB's. Hit to, me any defense

1330
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: can have good defensive lineman that can rush the. Passer

1331
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: all those guys you go to any team in the

1332
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: league if you had a good defensive lineman they all

1333
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: look kind of. Similar when your DB's, hit your entire

1334
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: defense feels. Physical And kittle's a good. EXAMPLE i would

1335
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: say ninety Of kittle's plays he breaks the tackle unless

1336
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: It's Ray lewis or a guy, like you, know a

1337
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: high end. Player one guy's not bringing him. Down last,

1338
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: night he was getting tackled by one, guy WHICH i was, like.

1339
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: Damn this team brought a physicality to that. Game that

1340
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: was you felt it from the, jump and The niners

1341
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: just don't have the bodies to match. It and then darnold.

1342
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: You twenty to twenty. SIX i thought he was, awesome

1343
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: just in complete. Control made a couple of plays when

1344
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: he had to every layup, throw which is a huge

1345
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: part of that. Offense in stride in, stride instride and

1346
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: the running backs that they are their team if they

1347
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: can play that plan Where donald doesn't have to throw

1348
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: it forty five, times BECAUSE i would say the other

1349
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: thing they need is another wide. Receiver you, Know cooper's obviously.

1350
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: Older if they get a Bigger, Honestly Juwan jennings a free,

1351
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: AGENT i would sign a guy like. Him they would like.

1352
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: Him he's kind of. Crazy Josh snyder likes the kind

1353
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: of crazy. Guys you can kind of feel it on their.

1354
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: Team they are they're gonna be a, problem especially that

1355
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: place is. Good they haven't had A i googled it last.

1356
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: Night they have not had a home playoff game Since

1357
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: january of twenty, seventeen so basically a.

1358
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: Death So John january In. Seattle it's cold rain In.

1359
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: Seattle last. Night donald was twenty at twenty. Six it

1360
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: felt like he threw twelve, balls like he was doing

1361
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: play action. Stuff but he it was Not. Sam's it

1362
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: was defense and run. Game so like you could. Win

1363
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: seattle could, win And donald could go sixteen of nineteen

1364
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: and they'd be very effective and score twenty seven. Points

1365
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: so cold Wet seattle for a team that doesn't have

1366
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: they can throw the ball down the. Field but last,

1367
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: NIGHT i, Mean witherspoon's a big tackle recorner of The

1368
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: illinois Kid Iman worry From South. Carolina they're just, big, strong,

1369
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: tough physical. Players, YEAH i would Take seattle in terms

1370
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: of just overall. ROSTER i just don't that.

1371
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: Linebacker kicked the ball from McCaffrey. Brooks he's. EVERYWHERE i,

1372
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: mean they're, guys so just all their guys can run and,

1373
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: hit and it just felt like they kept them coming

1374
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: in waves the. BACKUPS i was, like, geez and they

1375
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: had been a little off. Right they didn't play that

1376
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: great in The rams game till the. End last week

1377
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 2: Against carolina was a little, weird SO i was a little.

1378
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: Off the scent on. Them that team that showed up

1379
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: last night was Like, jesus they came To like you,

1380
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: SAID i can't imagine how Many niners struggled to get

1381
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: out of bed this. Morning you, know, really his wife

1382
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: had to call someone to help him out of.

1383
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: BED i couldn't take the last TIME i watched The

1384
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: niners and a healthy McCaffrey was taken out of a.

1385
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: Game out of a, GAME i, mean just a complete non.

1386
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: Factor that's like Taking Walter payton in his, prime rest

1387
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: in peace out of a. Gamer Barry, sanders, like you

1388
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: just don't do. That, yeah it. Was it was a.

1389
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: Masterclass great, stuff, Buddy take you.

1390
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: Easy gone the volume