1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: This is almost Good Advice with Ben Higgins and Ashley 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Aya Kinetic. My goodness, Ashley, Today's a day that we've 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: been waiting for for a while now. We've had this 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: crazy idea that during kind of the off season, what 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: we would really love. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: Is to hear from our listeners. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Why because that's one way to connect, is sitting in 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: a space where you can share your stories and share 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: your insights. But also this is called almost good advice 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: because one of the ways that we're approaching this is 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: we also want to learn from the listeners. We want 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: to hear their stories and kind of learn where they're 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: at in life. I can't promise that we're going to 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: have all the great answers, but what I can do 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: is promise that Ashley and I will talk through these 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: situations like we would if we were sitting at a 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: golden wedding or at dinner or on the phone. We 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: would be as honest about these situations as we can 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: be and as vulnerable as we can can be. Ashley, 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: to set this up, I've read through the questions submitted 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: and we've gotten some really good ones and you have not, 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna kind of take this approach where 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: just for this episode at least, you're gonna go off 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the cuff. I'm gonna have, you know, some thought that 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I've put in behind these and we can kind of 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: bounce back and forth. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: How does that sound? 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: It sounds good. And I just want to say Ben's 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: advice will probably be the best advice you could ever get. 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: I feel like Ben is that's one of your strongest 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: suits is giving advice to other people. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: And I just have a big ego, so I just 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: give advice. 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh oh, You're so good at it. Everybody goes to 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: you for guidance and you always have strong guidance. And 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: there was a girl, there's one of the women from 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor who at the wedding was like I 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: just talked to Ben Higgins and he just he had 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: so much wisdom and like what I was asking him about. 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it was Ellen or Joan. I 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: didn't see Ellen at the wedding. It was probably Ellen 42 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: because I saw I think it was on Instagram that 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: she said something. 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, Ellen's really great. 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: What were you talking about just kind of. 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: This process and the friendships that are coming from it 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and what life looks like now and like, how do 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: you make sense of this wild thing that happened to them? 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Right? 50 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: She's her name isn't getting thrown around for the next 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette, and so she's kind of in this space 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: of being in limbo where she's made incredible friendships. I 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of them don't necessarily want this season 54 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: to be over, and so what does life look like 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: once it's over? Like that just that kind of the 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: same stuff you would talk about with somebody in their 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: twenties coming off the show. I just think the perspectives 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: might be a little different and the ways that you 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: enjoy it are a little different when you're on the 60 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: Golden Show or on the Younger Show. 61 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: And Ellen was just great. 62 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I had great advice for her 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: other than I just got to listen to kind of 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: her journey so far and what she's learning and either 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: be like, hey, you know what truth is. This isn't 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna last, but what has in your life? Like what 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: has lasted forever? Even if you're in a marriage until 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: you know the day you pass, things are gonna change 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: in that marriage. It's gonna look different in five years 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: than it does today, like things change, and so how 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: do we love the change? 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: Like, how do we even just enjoy the change? 73 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: Stay freaking fantastic advice? And Ellen is so amazing. How 74 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: did I not see her? I actually like did not 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: see her? Well, she's so freaking cute. Okay, all right, 76 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: let's go with our first question. 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do three stories today, three questions. 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Uh. The last one that we're gonna touch on, I 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: think is going to be the most complicated to talk about. 80 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it. I'm skiving. 81 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has the most like nuance. And so let's 82 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: start with Katie's. It starts like this. It says, oh 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: my gosh, you guys are my favorite bachelor people. That's 84 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: very nice. I don't just skip by that. I appreciate 85 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: you you saying that. Then she says, I don't really 86 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: have a specific situation, but I wanted your advice on 87 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: feeling like you're never going to find your person in 88 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: your twenties. All my friends are starting to get engaged, 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: and I feel so behind. I don't want to settle, 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: but I also don't want to be alone. Did you 91 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: ever feel like that? I already put myself out there 92 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and try to date, so I feel a little lost 93 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: any advice. 94 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: My advice is to keep on staying positive, stay positive, 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: keep on just living, doing like your thing, Concentrate on yourself. 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: Make finding someone secondary because, like, I really feel like 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: when you're doing your own thing, and you're doing your 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: own thing, well, that's usually when the person comes along. 99 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: Ben and I both are in the exact same boat, 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: I think. Well, So Jared came out about his feelings 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: for me two months shy of my thirtieth birthday, and yes, 102 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: did I have this mental deadline that I was like, 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: oh my gosh by thirty, like I really want to 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: be able to say that, like I found the person 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: that I'm gonna be with for sure. It made me 106 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: feel good that we were getting on that track at 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: my thirtieth birthday. You did you meet Jess just around 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: twenty nine? 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Thirty nine? Yeah? 110 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: So I do think that like you are you twenty 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: you twenty nine? Katie? Well, it doesn't matter. I do 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: feel like once you're towards your end of your twenties, 113 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: things kind of start clicking. I think it doesn't It's 114 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: not a coincidence. I think you getting closer to thirty 115 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: makes you more confident in yourself and your decision making, 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: you don't care as much what other people are thinking. 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Don't stress out about entering your thirty single either. Like 118 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: it's just it's you have to stay positive and put 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: yourself out there. But like you don't have to make 120 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: it a total job to date. Like I said, I 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: do think that, like as you're doing in rocking your 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: own thing, the right person will come along. 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting this question, I'm sure is a question that 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: most people have in their twenties, right. I mean, I 125 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: remember we've talked about in here before, but I remember 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: laying in my bed at my old house in Denver 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: after my breakup from the show and coming to peace 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: with the fact that I might be single because that 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: relationship ended similarly to other relationships that I had in 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: the past, and I thought, Ben, you might just not 131 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: be cut out for this, Like there just might not 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: be that person that's gonna love you fully. 133 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: Isn't it funny that you had that thought in your twenties. 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: In my twenties, you're so young, Like, when you really 135 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: put in perspective, you're so young. 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: You're very young. But the point, Katie, is that you're 137 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: not alone in this thought. You know, there's many that 138 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: are feeling this way, and I think most people who 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: are single and wanting in their twenties are feeling similarly 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: to what your question is. And I go off of 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: what Ashley just said and also what Tanya rad who 142 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: is part of the iHeart family, once told me. Because 143 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Tanya was really desiring a relationship, really single and wanting 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: for all of her twenties and she wants I said, Tanya, 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: how like, what advice would you give somebody else? 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: This is before she met her partner. 147 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Now and and a lot of her thirties. I don't 148 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: think she met Robbie until she was thirty two. 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Thirty two, so there was this you know, this was 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: not a secret to anybody that Tanya wanted to love 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: hadn't found it. 152 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: And she just told me this. 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: She said, tell anybody that wants love to never stop dating. 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Now that means going on weird dates, going on bad dates, 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: going on great dates, and because I think you get 156 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: a better picture of where that person may be, like where, 157 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: what kind of interests you're into, what characteristics you like, 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: and so almost have fun with it. I also would say, 159 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: but based on everything else, like I have this really 160 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: bad advice that I give people who are single in 161 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: their twenties. And I think it's true, and I've had 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I've shared it with multiple people, Like you aren't promised 163 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: a relationship, and that seems so daunting to hear that, right, Like, 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: you are not promised to be in a relationships. 165 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: That's why it's the most terrifying thing ever, because it's 166 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: the most out of your control thing and probably the 167 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: most desired thing about life. And it will like freak 168 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: you out when you're lying in bed at night, being like, 169 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: this is the one thing I totally cannot control. Like 170 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: I can control my career and all of. 171 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: That, but I refuse to give advice that I don't 172 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: believe is true. And the truth is, it is out 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: of your control. You aren't promised it, Like it's not 174 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: like everybody's gonna find it. So I say this, and 175 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: then I always kind of sandwich it with So as 176 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: a result, what I would tell you if you asking 177 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: me for my input in this is to really love 178 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: yourself and love the season of life you're in, because 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the worst thing that could happen to you in this 180 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: is not that you don't find a partner like that sucks, 181 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: but it's not the worst thing that could happen. The 182 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: worst thing that could happen to you in this is 183 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: if you go fifteen twenty thirty years of your life 184 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of in your prime of health and your prime 185 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: of career and your prime of connection and energy, and 186 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: you waste it because you've just been wanting this thing 187 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: that was not promised to you. And so start to 188 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: enjoy the singleness, enjoy the adventure, enjoy the lack of responsibility, 189 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: and enjoy the craziness of it all, and then hopefully 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: along the way somebody will come. But if you don't 191 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: enjoy this season, if you don't enjoy singleness, I promise you, 192 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: even if you find a relationship, you're gonna look back 193 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: and you be like I wish I would have XYZ. 194 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I wish I would have enjoyed that more. I wish 195 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: I would have taken more adventures. I wish I would 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: have traveled alone. I wish I would have gone to 197 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: the movies alone. All these things that you're not going 198 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: to be able to do later on. So you're not 199 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: promised it. I can't tell you you're gonna find it. 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you the secret sauce too finding it. 201 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: But I can tell you to enjoy the season you're 202 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: in because you are human. You have life, you have breath, 203 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and that is a really valuable thing that is very 204 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: very sacred in a miracle month success. 205 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: So you are a miracle. So enjoy the miracle that 206 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: you are. 207 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: We should really just make this show Ben's advice, because 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: I would just love to be an audience member to it. 209 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: I would love to just listen to everything that East 210 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: View because it's amazing. I don't think I wouldn't come 211 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: up with I think you would. 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: You said the same thing I did, just in different. 213 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Ways to really, I guess. So I do think that like, 214 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: while you are embracing yourself and loving yourself and all that, 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: the more you love yourself, the more you're probably going 216 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: to like exude that to the world and be more 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: attractive to everyone and be more a better partner. 218 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the truth is your whole with her way 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: without somebody else. Yeah, you are. You are a whole human. 220 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Georgia doesn't want my advice, she wants Ashley's advice. So 221 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: here's the question for Ashley from Georgia. Okay, this question 222 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: is a little more Ashley, and then she says, sorry, 223 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: love you Ben Well, I love you too. I do 224 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: not take offense to this. How did you know that 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Jared was the one? And you seem so sure of 226 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: him even when he was pursuing other people, And now 227 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: you guys are perfect together. I would love for you 228 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: to lean into that perfect together statement too. How did 229 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: you not give up when he was saying it wasn't right? 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Ashley take it away? 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: Well, honestly, it was because his words weren't matching up 232 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: with his actions a lot of the times, to be honest, 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: so like he would send me flowers, but then no, 234 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: tell me, we were just friends and there was just 235 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: like a lot of mixed signals and I And there's 236 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: like a lot of chapters to it, obviously, like because 237 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: at first, like he he definitely didn't know I was 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: the one at first, but then when we got to 239 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: know each other, it was there was enough mixed signals. 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: There's enough interest from him for me to keep being 241 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: like no, no, I know, no, no, I know. But 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: then I don't know how to describe it. I definitely 243 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: just fell in love at first sight. It was so crazy. 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: I did not really believe in love at first sight, 245 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: and it was like a just a weird slap. It 246 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: was so crazy there, I just I just knew there 247 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: was just something about his personality and like how we 248 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: had these similarities that I'd never experienced in anybody else before. 249 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: M had you guys had like it. When was the 250 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: first time you made out? Like when was the first 251 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: time he showed interest in you physically? 252 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: Well, like we did make out on the show twice 253 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: three times? 254 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: And then just remind me and remind everybody else you 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: made out in Paradise, Well, you made out in Paradise 256 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: and then you didn't really start dating for how long 257 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: in between there? 258 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: It was two and a half years from like us 259 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: first meeting to us dating. 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: And yes, and but you kept but you kept the faith, 261 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: like you kept saying, like I still think Jared is 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: the one. He might not see it yet, but those 263 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: two and a half years kind of what I mean, 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: I think you just said it. But what encouraged you 265 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: to keep pursuing it was his actions or the things 266 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: that you still found for him to be pursuing you, 267 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: even if he didn't know, he was fully pursuing you, 268 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: Like he couldn't. 269 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: Get you out of it. He didn't want to get 270 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: you out of his life. Right. 271 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of just natural chemistry and 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: just the fact that like we wouldn't go like a 273 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: day without talking, and we would talk on the phone 274 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: for hours and it was so crazy, and and we 275 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 3: would all like he would stay in my place every 276 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: time he would come to La and then we would 277 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: do things with each other's families and he would come 278 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: like down to Virginia for my sister's birthday. There was 279 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: just so much. So there was plenty for me to 280 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: feel like there was interest, Like I just don't think 281 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: you do that as a friend just a friend, and 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,359 Speaker 3: we like fulfilled the category of a boyfriend and girlfriend emotionally. 283 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: It was just not physically. So you just knew that 284 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: like hed he even if even if we were going 285 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: to try to take a break from each other, neither 286 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: of us wanted that. 287 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you couldn't picture your life without him in it, yeah, 288 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: and he couldn't picture his life without you in it. 289 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 290 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: And that might be like the summary of the answer, right, 291 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: if you you can't picture your. 292 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Life without somebody, that's when you know. 293 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would also just say that, like I hate 294 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: like this is the advice that I give every time, 295 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: and I kind of feel bad for it. But if 296 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: there's somebody who has like a lot of you have 297 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: a lot of confusion about and they seem to have 298 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: confusion towards you, if you start dating someone else and 299 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: they don't seem like at all jealous or at all 300 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: rattled by this, like it really doesn't affect their life, 301 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: then you probably have your answer that they really are 302 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: just your friend. Yeah, that's good advice, actually, And I 303 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: feel bad because like you don't want to use the 304 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: other person, it's not aboud using them, but like if 305 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: you really are just like okay, I am moving on, 306 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm we're gonna like I found somebody that I like, 307 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm dating them. If the person isn't rattled by it, 308 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: then like you really have your answer and that can 309 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: really help you move on because I guess, as I 310 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: always say, I'm the exception to the rule most people 311 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: who keep pursuing someone and then there's no supposed reciprocation, 312 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: or at least it didn't seem like there was on TV. 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: You you're probably not going to end up with them, 314 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: But like that's a great way of knowing for sure. 315 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: I think you're right, And I remember that season where 316 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: it was really hard when you tried to move on. 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: It was really confusing for Jared, and I think for 318 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: most people who are wondering, that is a great response 319 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: because at some point you'd have to move on, Like 320 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: if that person is not reciprocating the feelings, you would 321 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: have to move on. You can't live your whole life 322 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: just being like, you know, oh, I love this guy 323 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: who doesn't love me, So you'd have to move on. 324 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: But when that happens, what does it feel like? 325 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would probably be it's honestly, at that 326 00:16:51,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: point probably empowering to move on too. 327 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: Okay, Ashley, we have a banger. The conclusion of this 328 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: first episode of Almost Good Advice is gonna end with 329 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: with Jenna's question, and again I asked you not to 330 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: look at these and have any preparations, so I'm gonna 331 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: read it to you. I think your first response is 332 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: going to be very very helpful here, Like if a 333 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: friend was talking to you about this and then I 334 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: have had more time to kind of think through how 335 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: would I navigate this or what type of advice would 336 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I give? But this is a difficult situation. So here 337 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: it is, Jenna writes it, Ben, I loved seeing you 338 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: dance at the wedding. You're hilarious. Truth is I love 339 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: dancing super excited, too super excited to hear you your 340 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: guys's thoughts on my situation. 341 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: So basically, me and my two neighbors have been best 342 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: friends for years. My one neighbor, Sarah, is getting divorced 343 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: but still lives in the same house with her husband. 344 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: My other neighbor, Isabelle, is now sleeping with Sarah's husband. 345 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: Sarah doesn't know, and Isabelle made me promise not to tell, 346 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: but now I feel awkward around Sarah. Isabelle says she 347 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: just wants to wait to tell Sarah until she decides 348 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: what to do. Should I give her more time or 349 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: should I tell Sarah Ashley first response. 350 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: My first response is that you have to tell Sarah, 351 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: but you also probably know that you're probably not going 352 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: to be friends with Isabelle afterward. But I don't know that, 353 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of Isabelle's characters is a little bit 354 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: fuzzy right now. 355 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: For me, So I want to re enter this question 356 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: for you first. So, if one of your friends is 357 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: sitting in the similar situation. Let's call it your best friend, 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: one that you've known for years. 359 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I already have it in my head, like my 360 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: sister and I have our two best shared friends were 361 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: like a foursome, and that's like we have our group 362 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: message and all that. Yeah, if the single one was 363 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: sleeping with my married friend's husband, yeah, I'm holy crap, 364 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: Like yeah, but we gotta tell her, We gotta tell her. 365 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: But then at the same time, like I'm so judgmental 366 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: in my head towards my single friend that I'm like, 367 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can be friends with that 368 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: person of character. So there you go. 369 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so there's some things here we don't know, 370 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: like what type of person is Isabelle them? What type 371 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: of person is Sarah? And what type of person are you? 372 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: Like how does this friendship work? But your best friend? 373 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: So we have that at least, but like, are these 374 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: girls Like we understand that Jenna is best friends with 375 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: the two neighbors, but are the two neighbors best friends 376 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: as well? Like are they a threesome of best friends? 377 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming based on the sitt and so basically 378 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: me and my two neighbors have been best friends for years. 379 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: Can you believe this? Yes, say like, did somebody write 380 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: this for us? 381 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: No? 382 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: No, I can believe this because this is a situation 383 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: that I don't think is that uncommon? 384 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: Right? 385 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: The best friend you know finds a way in with 386 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: their best friend's husband once there is a divorce. So 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: do you want to hear my thoughts? 388 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? And I guess we do have to reiterate that, 389 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: like they are getting a divorce, they're split up. It 390 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 3: helps a little bit, but it's not like they're just 391 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: like having an affair. 392 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Well, there's a. 393 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Friend code, you know, there's a friend Obviously, a fair 394 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: is not the word you can use here. I think 395 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: that is that is like clear in a boundary you 396 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: should set. Is a fair is not the word you 397 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: can use here? Now going against friend code, doing something 398 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: that feels like it might be stretching your morals and values. 399 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we could get to it, but it's it's this 400 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: is difficult, and so. 401 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: We'll first they're still living together. 402 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: We'll first acknowledge that this is difficult. It's a really 403 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: hard thing to talk to you. I am on the 404 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: side where Jenna cannot tell. 405 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: What are you just playing Devil's advocate to me, No, 406 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm not why because the husband needs. 407 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: To tell I think the husband has a big role 408 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: in this, Okay. I also think Jenna, if you compartmentalize 409 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: each situation situation, she has not put herself in the 410 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: situation to lose either friend. She has not made the 411 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: decision that Isabelle is making. So as a result, is 412 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: she if the question here I guess is what is 413 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: the right thing to do? Or how do I keep 414 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: my friendships? There's two those are two different things. How 415 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: do I keep my friendships? Jenna has not placed herself 416 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: in this situation of like this difficult situation. So what 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: I would do if I was Jena is I would 418 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: start hard pressing Isabelle, like you need to tell her 419 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: and you need to explain to her. The reason is 420 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna affect not just Isabelle and Sarah's ex husband, 421 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: but it's gonna affect Jenna, Sarah, Isabelle and the ex husband. 422 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: I would start pushing Isabelle to share her story with Sarah. 423 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Jenna needs to be that person. 424 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: Isabelle to start, Okay, sharing the story. 425 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: Like it is it is. Isabelle's issue is this isn't 426 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: even Sarah's issue. Sarah's gonna be hurt, she's gonna be sad, 427 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: she's gonna be confused, She's gonna be probably even more 428 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: angry at her ex husband than she already is. 429 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: But this is Isabelle's issue to communicate. 430 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: And then when Sarah comes back to Jena AND's like, 431 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: how long have you known about this? You need to 432 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: tell Jenna needs to be honest with Isabelle and say, 433 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell Sarah that I've known about this 434 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: the whole entire time, and the reason I didn't tell 435 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: her was because I push her to tell you. This 436 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: is her story. She needs to tell She needs to 437 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: own up this, She needs to be an adult. She 438 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: needs to acknowledge that this situation's messy and weird. And 439 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Isabella doesn't want to tell Sarah, and 440 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: so Isabelle knows this is a messy, bad, weird situation. 441 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: But I don't think Jenna needs to be that person. 442 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever need to be that person. 443 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: Because you still have that friendship with Isabelle and she's 444 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: confide in you about this. She obviously trusted you with 445 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: this information. And if you want to keep the friendship 446 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: whatever that means, then Jenna just needs to start hard 447 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: pressing Isabelle. Or here's another idea, here's what I do. 448 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: If this is my life, I'd say, Okay, Isabelle, I'm 449 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna give you one week. 450 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say, yeah, I give a timeline. 451 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah, I'm gonna give you one week. 452 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I can get to tell Sarah, or your husband 453 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: needs to tell Sarah, or you guys need to do 454 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: it together. 455 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: You have one week, and if you don't tell her 456 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: in one. 457 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: Week, I love you, I care about you, but this 458 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: is gonna affect me, and I'm gonna have to tell Sarah. 459 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell Sarah. I don't want to 460 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: have to be that person, but I'm going to if 461 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: you don't. So I made the promise. I've stuck to 462 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the promise. But I also, in return have the ability 463 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: to tell you that I'm going to tell Sarah because 464 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: this situation is ugly. 465 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, then I can get behind that one. I think 466 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: that's probably the best. That's raising. 467 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's just hard. It's unfortunate that this 468 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: has to happen, because you know what, maybe the most 469 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: unfortunate thing here is that Jenna is kind of stuck 470 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of something she had no part in. 471 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's too bad. 472 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: All right, well, Ben, let's go with yours. Yours is 473 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 3: probably I mean, not that we have to decide the 474 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: best almost good advice, but yours is probably the best 475 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: almost good well. 476 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: And I think this is the way that you know, 477 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: we I've life doesn't always work perfectly, but I think 478 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: in difficult situations, ones that you feel stuck, I feel 479 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: like the best way to navigate it is always over communicate. 480 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Like you have to over you know, if it's marriage, 481 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: if it's friendships, whatever, the more you communicate, the the 482 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: better it. It kind of flushes itself out. And so 483 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: here it's the communication to you know, And that's also 484 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: great advice. 485 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: The only the times in my life where I've felt 486 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: the most stuck are the ones where I've tried to 487 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: make like people happy on both sides, and then like 488 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: I end up not over communicating and like kind of 489 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: keeping a little bit too secret on both sides just 490 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: to keep everybody happy. So that's amazing advice. And I 491 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: just feel like you should be a minister with a 492 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: sermon on Sunday every week. 493 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that would not go well, I would Ashley. 494 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: This has been our first episode of Almost Good Advice. 495 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: I think it was almost good Advice. I don't know 496 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: if it's the perfect advice. We didn't promise that, but 497 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun for us to hear from you. 498 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I know your situations in life are all crazy. It's 499 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: full of joy and pain and confusion and isolation. Is 500 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: full of the human experience. And here at the Almost 501 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: Famous Podcast are Almost Good Advice episodes. Just hope to 502 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: help you feel a little less alone, know that you 503 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: aren't doing this thing isolated, that other people are in 504 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: it with you. And if you hear a story that 505 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: you relate with, Retican, we would love to hear more 506 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: from you, then we're gonna come back. We'll be back 507 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: next week with another episode of almost Good Advice. Keep 508 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: your stories flowing in. We don't want to stop this 509 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: anytime soon. We'll only have to stop it if the 510 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: story stop coming. So write in with your stories, big 511 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: or small, walk in front of them. We'll talk about 512 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: the best we can. This has been the Almost Famous 513 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: Podcast episode of Almost Good Advice. 514 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: Until next time. 515 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: I've been benpen Ashley See you guys. 516 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio, 517 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.