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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast the now I'm ready to start. Addition,

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Speaker 1: as Joe Burrow returns to the starting lineup this Sunday

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals final preseason game coming up, you'll hear

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Speaker 1: Burrow explain why it's so important for him to get

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Speaker 1: a few snaps before the regular season opener. Then Tyler

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Speaker 1: Boyd and t Higgins explain why we shouldn't panic about

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase's drops. In my fun Facts conversation. This week,

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Speaker 1: you'll get to know one of the most pleasant surprises

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Speaker 1: of training camp, defensive back Jayalen Davis. And finally, I'll

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Speaker 1: discuss Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, the offensive line, and much

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Speaker 1: more with NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger. The Bengals Booth

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Speaker 1: Podcast is presented by bug Light Seltzer Refreshed the Game

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Speaker 1: and here's a quick reminder that you can have the

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Speaker 1: New Ruler of the Jungle ceremony This Sunday, fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: before kickoff against the Dolphins, the Bengals will debut a

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Speaker 1: new pregame ritual from a jungle themed throne at Paul

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Speaker 1: will lead the crowd in the Hoo Day chant to

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Speaker 1: get everybody fired up for game time. The first Ruler

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Speaker 1: of the Jungle will be super fan James J. B. Brown,

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Speaker 1: who has led the players out of the tunnel and

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Speaker 1: onto the field at home games for many years. In

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Speaker 1: games to come, the Ruler of the Jungle could be

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Speaker 1: a former Bengal, a celebrity, a prominent Cincinnati athlete from

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Speaker 1: another sport. There are all sorts of possibilities. It's all

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Speaker 1: part of the Bengals concerted effort to make game day

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Speaker 1: memorable at Paul Brown Stadium. Now, let's get to Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, head coach Zach Taylor announced that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: bet there will be no deep passes where Joe stands

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Speaker 1: This is the plan the whole time. We just didn't

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Speaker 1: want to tell you, guys. So I'm excited to get

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Speaker 1: think it's important to going into this last preseason game

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Speaker 1: if you want to make Game three of the preseason

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Speaker 1: need to hear how I'm going to call plays during

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Speaker 1: I'll admit that I have been saying for months that

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Speaker 1: The other big story at Bengals camp has involved Jamar

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Speaker 1: Number One, drops weren't an issue with LSU. In fact,

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Speaker 1: fun facts with Jayalen Davis. You became the first true

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Speaker 1: So it was amazing experience. You had a tremendous college

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Speaker 1: career forty nine starts, eleven interceptions, forty eight pass deflections.

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Speaker 1: which he Hagen Soul. I thought that was the right

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Speaker 1: choice from if the decision was Sewel or Chase, I

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Speaker 1: was going with Chase all day. We're chatting with Brian

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Speaker 1: Baldinger from the NFL Network. He can follow him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Baldy NFL. I was fortunate to sit in

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Speaker 1: on a pregame zoom call with you and Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: and some other people that were broadcasting the game last week,

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Speaker 1: and you brought up the enthusiasm that you saw on

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Speaker 1: the Bengal sideline in the first preseason game. And when

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Speaker 1: you said that, Zach Taylor lit up like a Christmas

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Speaker 1: tree and said he was really glad that you noticed it.

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Speaker 1: You played the game for more than a decade. Is

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Speaker 1: that a significant thing? Yeah, it is, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was just watching. I just bring up an example I

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Speaker 1: by Von Miller, jumping up and down like it was Christmas,

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Speaker 1: you know, like pulling for the players. And I see

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Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, I see the same thing

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Speaker 1: know some of the leaders of the team, where they're

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Speaker 1: pulling for these guys, and it's it's I think it's palpable. Dan.

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Speaker 1: I think you know something to look for this week

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Speaker 1: again where the fetchers are pulling for the young guys.

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Speaker 1: They're not got a baseball cap on and tuned out

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Speaker 1: You need it. Things don't always go right on Sundays.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta turn your fortune around. I remember when

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines saying, we're gonna win this game. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna win it. We're gonna come back and win this game.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, Judall said, we're gonna win it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we did. We came back, we won

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Speaker 1: the game, and you just have to have that belief.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen it on the sidelines and I believe

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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about Cincinnati. You know, Zach Taylor's third year

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Speaker 1: last year and all of them won at least eleven games.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the AFC North this year

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Speaker 1: and what do you think constitute success for Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 1: can't put it, you know, a number of wins on it.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll definitely have more than they had a

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Speaker 1: year ago. I think the top of the total will

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Speaker 1: go up. But it's a very tough division. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you watch PITSTOPGH against Detroit on Friday night, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ben looked great. The young players, the rebuild offensive line

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Speaker 1: looks better. Naji Harris is a good fit for what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. You know, it's I think it's the best

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Speaker 1: division of football. But you know, we saw them in

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Speaker 1: any division in all of football. You can say the

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Speaker 1: NFC West, you can say all this stuff, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're getting with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: You know what you're getting from them defensively. You know

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Speaker 1: what Cleveland wants to do offensively right now. The way

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Speaker 1: that they can run the football, the way that they

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Speaker 1: run it, it's just gonna be really really competitive football.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be every one of those games. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be must watch TV right now. Bryan. I

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Speaker 1: know Bengals fans really enjoyed your analysis last week. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time today and I help our paths cross

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Speaker 1: at some point this season. Thank you, you bet Dan,

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