1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stuff. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I've never told you a production of I Heeart Media's 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. As this episode comes out, it is 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day surrounded by singles, Awareness Day, Galantine's Day, whatever 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: you celebrated, don't celebrate on February Mistress Day, apparently Mistress Day. 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: That seems sexist, Yeah, it does. We might get into 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: that later. Um, if you're listening to this to day 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: it comes out, Samantha and I are in l A 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: and we might be doing our own sort of Galantine's 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Day thing. It's gonna be a full thing. It's gonna 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: be a full the Galantine's and Valentine single, all of 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: that thing. We're going to do all of them, Okay, perfect, 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: all the boxes, all of the boxes, and hopefully we 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: might have at coffee times with other gals or those 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: who identify ask come and celebrate or just what's a 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: hang with Yeah. Totally trigger warning. Brief mentions of violence 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: against women in this one. And this one actually came 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: to my mind because I learned about dating Sunday for 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: the first time here in the United States at least, 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: which is apparently a New Year's resolution post holiday breakup 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: thing and maybe like you're still single, questions that you 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: got over the holidays, or OMG, Valentine's Day is coming 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: around the corner. One of those, or a combination of 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: those reasons that results in a bunch of people signing 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: up for dating apps. The first Sunday of the new 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: year is the busiest day of the year for dating apps. 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Did you know about this? Yes? I did, and I 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: purposely stayed away from January all the way through March 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: when I was on the dating sites because of that. 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I will not be a statistic. You are so much 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: more than a statistic to me, is the Mantha. I 32 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: do know that there's also a tradition for New Year's 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: You know how people do things that if you wear 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: pink underwear, that's supposed to ushure you a new lovers 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: or something. I have not heard that. I've heard that. Okay, well, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: but I did it. Sure you didn't or didn't, It 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter either way. Some apps see an increase of 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: new users up. And one of the ways I learned 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: about this is I got asked out a lot in 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: January and it it made me stop and think something 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: is happening here. Something is not right. And now I 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: know I was part of the statistics in some ways, 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: but you were on the apps right. No, No, I 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: was just getting asked out. As I've said before, I 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: do have a very long history of dating people born 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: on or near Valentine's date. That has also given me pause. 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: And a lot of my friends are born around this time, right. 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: I don't believe in astrology, but I'm like, huh, interesting, 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: those are the types of people. Huh. Yes, some Mantha 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and I we were discussing what our schools used to 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: do for Valentine's Day, Like you know, primary school and 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I was in elementary school. We would make these little 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: decorated shoe boxes with slots for Valentine's cards, and you 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: just would sort of sit around awkwardly and hope that 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: you got one after you'd given years out. And I 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: hope that the one you got wasn't mean, because I 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: got some mean ones. Really, yes I did. It's so 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: weird you didn't have this experience, jeez, Well I did. 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: And we went to school nearest each other, nearest different 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: time frames. That's true, But you think it would improve 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: over time and not get Apparently y'all got meaner. I 62 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: don't know they were mean. I have a picture of 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: your face with a bunch of pimples on it. Oh 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: my gosh. What Yes, that's elaborate, a main girl, elaborate, Stephen. 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: I haven't forgotten Steven's but I got back Later in 66 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: high school, we had this thing where you could pay 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a dollar to send I there, white pink, a red rose. Anonymously, um, 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: white represented friendship, pink represented a crush, I think and 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: read represented love. But of course my friends and I 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: all hijacked it and we sent each other flowers from 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: secreted mires. It was great. Um My mom would always 72 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: make me these paper roses every year I have when 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I saved him. I'm a very sentimental person, and my 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: dad would get me a chocolate from our local chocolate maker. 75 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: So it was like a grab bag of some bad 76 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: things with some good things. Wow. I guess you guys 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: did a lot more. Maybe my school just did not 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: care as much that We definitely did the by a 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: rose whatever do with those things. It wasn't different colors 80 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: to represent anything. A b we would never mean. I mean, 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: I think for our school we did the little dinky 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: shoe boxes as well, but everybody brought everyone of Valentine 83 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: and you wont if there was a piece of candy 84 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: on it. That's how you knew you were light kind 85 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: of if you got more candy or whatever what not. 86 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Of course, we would also have the ones where they 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: would send deliveries individual kids and such. And I remember 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: specifically that I had to have a boyfriend the third 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: grade because for the like I'm never, I was like, 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: I know, it's fifth grade, and I was determined to 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: have someone deliver something to me. I love it. I 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: know I was very manipulative, but to be fair, I 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: got him a really great thing too, And I'm sure 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: I think included one of those pencils with the heart 95 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: that breaks does be mine or whatever. Um. So, I 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: mean we gave each other gifts, but yeah, no, never 97 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: any mean ones I never saw. Maybe we're just nicer, 98 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: or maybe I just never noticed. Yeah you going on, 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I just didn't know my friends were nicer than 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: your friends. I don't know how dare you, but I 101 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: will say I also get a box of chocolates even 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: to this day every year from my father. Um, and 103 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that he loves to do, 104 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: is give my sister and I a box of chocolates, 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: and even with meybeing not home, he mails it and 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: he usually like prioritizes a you know, that has to 107 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: be one day shipping all these things, something from Walmart 108 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: or Target or something. Okay, yeah, well it should be 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: coming any day now. I'm around, I'm available. I'm just saying, okay, la, right, well, 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: we're doing a kind of basic, very brief history of 111 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Valentine's is actually fascinating. But before that, um overview. Valentine's 112 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Day is a holiday that takes place on February fourteen, 113 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: all about love and expressing your love, usually through things 114 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: like cards, flowers, and candy. Yes, it is a big business. 115 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: People spent around eighteen point six billion dollars on Valentine's Day, 116 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: and these days Valentine's Day is a great way for 117 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: companies incorporations to perpetuate heterodating and ginger stereotypes. Women love chocolate, right, No, right, 118 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: But it wasn't always a holiday about love. So with 119 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: a brief history of Valentine's Day, no one's entirely sure 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: where Valentine's Day came from, but one popular theory goes 121 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: all the way back to the ancient Roman celebration of 122 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: of Lubricalia from February. This festival call for men who 123 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: surprised were usually drunk and naked, to sacrifice a goat 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and a dog. How dare you? Then they would skin 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: these animals and whip women with the skin. Delightful, What 126 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: a great celebration. The women believe this ritual helped with fertility. 127 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: There was a matchmaking aspect as well. Men would draw 128 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the names of women out of jars and the couple 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: would go off and have lots of sex for the 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: rest of the festival, and if they hit it off, 131 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: they might even stay together. It sounds sort of like 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: I just finished the Newest Thing of Sabrina, The Chilling 133 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Adventures of Sabrina. I feel like a couple of seasons 134 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: back they had, they had this, they did, they had 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: the worship being whatever, and they paired with each other. 136 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: We're supposed to have sex all night or something or something. 137 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: It didn't happen that way for Sabrina. Yeah, other people, 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: who knows, but not Versabrina asked for the name Valentine's. 139 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: During the third century CE, Roman emperor Claudius had two 140 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: men named Valentine executed via decapitation on February four teeth 141 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: on two separate years, possibly because they were Christians, the 142 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: first man, Father Valentinus, ended up arrested and inservitude of 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: a well off man named Asterius. Father Valentinus kept espousing 144 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the power of Christianity, and Hysterius told him, look, if 145 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: you can get rid of my foster daughter's blindness, you 146 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: will make a believer out of me. So the father 147 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: covered the girl's eyes with his hands and recited, Lord 148 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ enlightened your handmaid, because you are God, the 149 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: true Light, and the legend goes. She regained her sight 150 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: and Mysterius converted, along with his entire family. But getting 151 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: wind of this, the emperor ordered them all to be executed. 152 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: The second Valentine to be executed had an extremely similar story, 153 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: and of so scholars suspect they're probably the same person, 154 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: just with two different names and slightly different details. Nevertheless, 155 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church lay honored their martyrdom with St. Valentine's Day. 156 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Several churches throughout Europe claimed to have pieces of St. 157 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Valentine's skull. One police even claims to have the whole thing. 158 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: If you're curious about where this information comes from. Because 159 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I was there was a I guess he was a priest. 160 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: He went around collecting stories for all of these saints 161 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and compiled them into to one book. So if you're 162 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: ever curious about a saint, then check it out. In 163 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the eleventh century, a priest claiming to have St. Valentine's 164 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: head used it to cure a whole laundry list of things, 165 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: including demonic possession and to prevent fires and epidemics. We 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: need that today, we do. I wonder where it is. 167 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: That's the new Indiana, Joe, it is getting I come 168 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: on there. It is a lot of media has romanticized 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: the story of Valentine, that he wrote love letters in 170 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: jail or performed marriages in jail, but there's no real 171 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: historical evidence to back that up. What we have is 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: on shaking enough ground. Speaking of the Catholic charge and 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: an attempt to do away with pagan festivals. They combined 174 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day with Libercalia in fifth century CE, but it 175 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: was still pretty much a day about getting drunk and fertility, 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: but now with clothes on, because you know, Christians, that's 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: the way you gotta do it. In parallel, there was 178 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: Gallanton's Day, a holiday observed by the Norman's Gallanton mid 179 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: lover of women. Because the names are similar, it's likely 180 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: they got combined at some point in time Right and 181 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: then with the help of artists like Shakespeare. Ophilia describes 182 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: herself as handless Valentine, and Saucer, who wrote a February 183 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: as the seasoned birds, made tau romantic. Valentine's Day was 184 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: romanticized and popularized throughout Europe by the Middle Ages. Handmade 185 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: paper cards have become a part of this tradition. The 186 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: French Duke of Orleans described his wife as his quote 187 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: very gentle Valentine in a letter he wrote to her 188 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: in February fourteen fifteen. Sweets became a part of it, 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: to getting something sweet for someone you thought was sweet. 190 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh so I need to get you something sweet. Oh 191 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: you think of sweets? Oh you know I do. So. 192 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: From Europe, this holiday spread, eventually making its way to 193 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: the New World. Nineteenth century industrialization added mass produced, factory 194 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: made cards to the mix, and in nineteen thirteen a 195 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: little company you may have heard of, I don't know, 196 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: called Hallmark. Hallmark Cards started making cards in Kansas City, Missouri. 197 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Right and and from there you can imagine, oh, the 198 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: birth of cards. So yeah, well they were very instrumental 199 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: in popularizing a lot of the holidays we celebrate because 200 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: that's their bread and butter. You gotta get a card 201 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: for this holiday and exactly, but not all cards were nice. 202 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: And we're going to get into that. But first we're 203 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: going to foster a quick break for word from our sponsor. 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: And we're back, Thank you, sponsor, And we're back with 205 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: something I actually learned about. I remember the precise moment 206 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: I learned about this. I over on our other show 207 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: that my other show that I do is Samantha. You 208 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: should just come along and be part of it. Um 209 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: We Savor, which is all about food and drink. We 210 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: did an episode for Valentine's Day on sweethearts, the candy 211 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: with the messages, and I somehow found this thing about 212 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: giving people mean sweethearts. And from there I found this 213 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: old tradition of giving people vinegar Valentine. And you told 214 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: me about those, and I was I had no clue 215 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: that was a thing. I'm still kind of baffled, even 216 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: though we've been researching it. I'm still baffled. Oh, it's 217 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: baffling actually it makes perfect sense in a weird way, 218 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going to bring it all together to be fair, 219 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: though I feel like I would be. This is probably 220 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: my type of Valentine anyway, Lord, it probably is. So 221 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: this is something that I'm is hilarious, but I'm also 222 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: really glad it's a thing of the past because they're 223 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: pretty mean, and we're gonna do some examples. But so, 224 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: vinegar Valentines were previously called mocking, insulting. Our comic vinegar 225 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: is actually something that we call them modern lee. That's 226 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: not what they were called back then. And this was 227 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: the practice from about the eighteen forties to nineteen forties 228 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: that was particularly popular in the United States and the 229 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: UK of giving people a mean or cruel card, usually 230 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: with a crude caricature, almost always anonymously. Even when folks 231 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: made their own Valentine's before there was a commercialization of cards, 232 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: they made these vinegar versions. They made homemade vinegar versions. 233 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I guess that's what I was getting elementary school, um. 234 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: But the commercialization of cards took that and ran with it. 235 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: They they made them. People would buy these cards for 236 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: about a penny or sometimes more for a fancy one, 237 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: and they could get pretty fancy and send them through 238 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: the mail, again anonymously, to add insult to injury. The 239 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: person receiving the vinegar valentine usually had to pay for postage. 240 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: They had to pay for it. It could be someone 241 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: you secretly despise, or it could be a not so 242 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: nice way to tell a suitor you're not that into them. 243 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: That was a really popular one. We should do these, 244 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. You could 245 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: send one to a couple you didn't like, or if 246 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: they were doing pd A you didn't like, you could 247 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: send that. Um. You could strongly advise them to change 248 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: their behavior. There A lot of them are threatening in nature, 249 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: like change your ways or else. Millions of these millions 250 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: were printed. If you think about it as I have, 251 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: they were sort of an early example of trolling, and 252 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: it really is. It's like we complain about social media 253 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: today and how terrible people are, but we've been terrible 254 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: apparently as long as we can be anonymous. Um. Yeah, 255 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Because if you didn't want to say something to someone's face, 256 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: here here was a great way to do it. And 257 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you could get them for just about anything or anyone. 258 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,119 Speaker 1: They get so specific at one time, these cards accounted 259 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: for half of all Valentine's sales, not just cards sales 260 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: in the United States. Wow. Yeah, the power of anonymity, 261 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I guess. Yes. So we do want to have we 262 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: want to do some examples. Yeah, these are fine. So 263 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: there's one that this image that shows a woman handing 264 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: a man a lemon, and the caption reads, to my 265 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: Valentine tis a lemon. I hand you now skado because 266 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I love another there's no chance for you. Also, I 267 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: would like to say, all of these have great words 268 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: that we'd never use anymore, such as skadoo, and I 269 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: think I would need to bring them back. You need 270 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the chance Atlantic accent. Oh yeah, I know, I don't 271 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: do that. Well, I mean, we'll see how it goes. 272 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: There's one of a woman dumping a bucket of water 273 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: on a man's head that reads, here's a pretty cool reception. 274 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: At least you'll say, there's no deception. It's just as 275 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: plain as it can say, old fellow, you best step away. 276 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: That may be something you should do. Another one shows 277 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a snake in a suit on a top hat, and 278 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: then there's a woman looking on in the fear in 279 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: the background and the captain goes, I'm not attracted by 280 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: your glitter. For well, I know how very bitter my 281 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: life would be if I should take you for my spouse. 282 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: A rattlesnake. Oh no, I'd not accept the ring, or 283 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: evermore to would prove a sting. Also, I think that 284 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: snake had a monocle. Just want to add that in. 285 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: It probably sounds about right. Yes. Another depicts a man 286 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: about to kiss a donkey with the message, Hey, lover boy, 287 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the place for you is home upon the shelf, because 288 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the only one who'd kiss you is a jackass like yourself. 289 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Or this titled bald Head, Your bright shining pate is 290 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: seen at all shows, and invariably down in the bald 291 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: headed rose, where you make conspicuous by your tender care, 292 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: your true ardent love for one lonesome hair. Oh so me, 293 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: no one supermine. So several were moral based about p 294 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: d A or alcoholism, or this one called television bug. 295 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: It says at faces that are televised all day and night, 296 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: you stare, but if they saw your stupid mug, they'd 297 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: all go off the air. Oh my gosh, I love 298 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: the rhymes. I'm not gonna lie. The rhymes are fun. Yeah. Uh, 299 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: And these cars got down to the occupation specific. If 300 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: you had a sales lady you didn't like, there's a 301 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: vinegar valentine that had you covered like this one, sales lady. 302 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: As you wait upon the women with disgust upon your face, 303 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the way you snap and barket them, one would think 304 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: you owned the place. If you weren't a fan of 305 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: your physician. There was a character named Dr sredef You 306 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: could even send one to the postman who delivered the note. 307 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: They were very big during the Civil War. Two. One 308 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: shows a woman with a large skull for a head 309 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: carrying a chainsaw. The caption reads to the surgeon, O, ho, 310 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: old sawbones, here you come. Yes, when the rebels whack us, 311 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: you are always ready with your traps to mangle saw 312 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: and hack us. Oh. There was a whole category of 313 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: cars meant to emasculate men who had babies on their 314 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: lap as being hen pecked, which is also a great word, 315 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: but not good. No, but at the same it's an 316 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: old school word. Is ridiculous. And then the old maid 317 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: from all in vain you're simpering looks you never can 318 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: incline with all of your bustles staying curls to find 319 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: a Valentine. And this one she's caught a pork at 320 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: and a bird, but she can't snare a man. So 321 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: we've heard it's the old maids sad fate to lose 322 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: out on a mate and take tea, but not a word. 323 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Or this one. You've got more curves in a roller coaster. 324 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: Your close fit like a glove. There's one thing wrong, glamoroupus. 325 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: You've a face only a mother would love. So many 326 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: depicted women in unfeminine ways, miss nosey and image of 327 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: a woman with a large nose that reads. On account 328 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: of your talk of other's affairs at most dances, you 329 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: sit warming the chairs because of the k you take 330 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: to attend to all others business. You have a de friend. 331 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: And speaking of unfeminine women, suffrage ushered in a whole 332 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: new wave of vinegar Valentine's aimed at women fighting for 333 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the right to vote, Like this, your vote for me, 334 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: you will not get. I don't want a preaching suffragette. 335 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: These cards typically portrayed suffragetts as ugly and often violent. 336 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: Some women sent Valentine's to assure would be suitors that 337 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: they weren't like those suffragists reading in these wild days 338 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: of suffragette drays. I'm sure you'd never overlook a girl 339 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: who can't be militant but simply loves to cook. Okay, 340 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: but there were pro suffragists Valentines as well, so you know, 341 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the feminist and anti feminist today, 342 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: and it's just in Twitter, exactly exactly. These cards, while popular, 343 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: we're certainly not universally well liked, and it's hard to 344 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: say how many were jokes and how many were totally serious. 345 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: Article from the Kindergarten Primary magazine lamented the detrimental effects 346 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: these cards had on children, calling on teachers to quote, 347 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: make it a day for kind remembrance than a day 348 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: for wrecking revenge. One post office in Chicago held over 349 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand Valentines, deeming some of the cards too 350 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: vulgart to send. But there are historical examples of people 351 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: getting murdered or taking their own lives over vinegar Valentine's. 352 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: So it's a bullying tactic, it is. It absolutely is. Again, 353 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: these are funny to read right now, but plenty were 354 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: super sexist and racist and fat phobic, and some advise 355 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: people to kill themselves really if you think of comment 356 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: boards and Twitter fees, YouTube comments. In some ways this 357 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: is still going on. Actually, in a lot of ways 358 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: going on, and people have always been terrible. And again, 359 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: the world is burning, Sminty, the world is burning. That's 360 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: our attack. Oh so wow, Vinegar Valentine's I never knew 361 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: was such a thing. I would recommend looking it up, um, 362 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: just to see the imagery in a lot of them, 363 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: God found disheartening. But maybe we should go onto a 364 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: better better We're not not better better topics such as 365 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Galantine's Day. So the actual name and celebration was first 366 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: on Parks and rec episode that aired on February eleven two. 367 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Also should be noted that it was written by a man. Yes. 368 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: So in the episode, we see one of my faves, 369 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Amy Poehler, celebrating with her gal pals with brunch and 370 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: plenty of kitchy presents and gifts, and as Leslie explained it, 371 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: every February, my lady friends and I leave our husbands 372 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: and our boyfriends at home and we just come and 373 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: kick it breakfast style ladies celebrating ladies. It's like the 374 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Little Fair minus the inks, plus for tatt us and 375 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: waffles and waffles, of course, the waffles as defined by 376 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary. Every thirteenth, the other half of Valentine's Day, 377 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: when you celebrate your love for your lady friends single r. No, Hey, Judy, 378 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: you're such a great friend to me, and I want 379 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to celebrate our friend love, not only my sexy love 380 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend Marvin tomorrow. So let's have a dinner 381 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: and get together the day before Valentine's Day. Galantine's Day, 382 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: sexy love. Friend. You know you gotta differentiate. So if 383 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: you have seen the show, and most likely if a 384 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: friend of yours have seen the show, then you know that, yes, 385 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: this is a made of holiday, but the success of 386 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: it has made some great commercial success, whether from different 387 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: products being marketed towards the holiday or from the sheer 388 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: amount of publicity written in reference to said holiday. Yes, 389 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: one thing as part of our jobs. And you might 390 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: not get this a lot yet, Samantha, but you will 391 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: is cold emails from pr companies, and I have probably 392 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: gotten at least thirty about Galentine's Day and what I 393 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: should be doing on Galentine's Day and what I should 394 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: buy my gal pal friends. So definitely companies have capitalized 395 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: on it and also um I, as I said before, 396 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: it wasn't an official day, but I feel like a 397 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: lot of us has been. We've been doing something like 398 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: this for a long time. We just didn't call it this, 399 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: and we didn't have all of the kind of traditions. 400 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Even though it's new, there's kind of a set here's 401 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: what you do exactly. Yes. Spreading wide enough, it has 402 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: spawned books, articles both arguing for and against. As New 403 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: York Post writer Hailey Eber stated in her twenty seventeen 404 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: column celebrating female friendship is great, but tying it to 405 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day reeks of an opportunistic marketing ploy, stating she 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: felt it was being used as only a marketing ploy 407 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: in that February had once been referred to as Mistress Day, 408 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: again for cheaters to take their side pieces, as she states, 409 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: out for private celebration. Perhaps it could be stated that 410 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Galantine's was the answer to the long appropriated idea that 411 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Valentine's was single awareness day. Side note, there seems to 412 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: be a whole lot of feelings, whether it's love, loneliness, 413 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: or defensiveness, just a whole lot of emotion around the 414 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: month and again speaking of a single Awareness Day. This 415 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: was created in two thousand five with the idea that 416 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: for too long February was sad, which is the acronym 417 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: for single Awareness Day in the negative, and so taking 418 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: it back and celebrating being single and being aware of 419 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: that day, I guess is on the fifties to celebrate 420 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: one's own singleness if you happen to be single, right. 421 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: And when I was in college, me in a big 422 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: group of my female friends would do single Awareness Stay Sad, 423 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: but we would kind of do it like ironically, like 424 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: we were single, but we weren't sad. We were super happy, 425 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: but we would kind of joke about it. Yes, it's 426 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: a celebration of I don't need no persons. Yeah yeah, 427 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: And we would always like, really do it up. It 428 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: was really fun um. And of course it should be 429 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: noted that there are several other days created before Gallantine's Day, 430 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: such as International Day of Friendship created by the u 431 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: N and World Friendship Crusade in celebrated on lthough most 432 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: country celebrate on the first Sunday in August. And by 433 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: the way, Winnie the Pooh, but you didn't I didn't know. 434 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I was appointed as the Ambassador of Friendship by the 435 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: U N Yes. Also a note, National Friendship Day was 436 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: created by Hallmark in nineteen nineteen, but apparently went away 437 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: in the nineteen forties. I guess they didn't sell enough 438 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: card maybe not maybe not UM. And yeah, I actually 439 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: I had a brain freeze. I forgot who wanted the 440 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: poo was. It's all okay, I didn't know who you. 441 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Now I know, UM. And we did want to talk 442 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: about some traditions around the world. But first we're gonna 443 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: pause for one more quick pick for a word from 444 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor. And yeah, 445 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: we did want to talk about some traditions from elsewhere. Yeah, 446 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we would love to hear about 447 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: traditions from other countries. So please let us know if 448 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: you're in a different country, or even if you have 449 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: different types of traditions, let us know. Because apparently in 450 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: Denmark men give women something called a joking letter traditionally. 451 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm a assuming anyone can do it. Yeah, the letter 452 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: has a funny joke or rhymes, signed only with a 453 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: series of dots like dot dot dot. I think, yeah, 454 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe I was thinking morse code. But see, 455 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: so if the receiver can figure out who the author is, 456 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: they get an easter egg when the holiday rolls around. What. Yeah, 457 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's really true. So you get an 458 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: easter egg if you but you have to wait, you 459 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: have that long just figure out who it is. Probably 460 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: is morrise code, because I wouldn't imagine what an asterisk 461 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: would be, a hint of swords. Yeah, and I do 462 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: feel like I could be totally wrong. So I feel 463 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: like this tradition, we're gonna need to know some answer 464 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: we need we have questions that need answer. At one time, 465 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: the French participated in something called latre da more drawing 466 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: for love. It sort of sounds like choosing a kickball 467 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: team or something. Men and women would separate and then 468 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: call each other's names out and they would couple up. 469 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: The men, of course, could choose another woman if they 470 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: didn't like the one who they ended up with, and 471 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: the unmatched women would go have a bonfire together, hurling 472 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: insults and swears to men who would wrong them, burning 473 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: the pictures of those men. This holiday got so out 474 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: of hand the French government stepped in and banned it. 475 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: In England, there used to be a tradition of women 476 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: putting bay leaves under their bed the night before Valentine's Day, 477 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: UM one at each corner and the center to dream 478 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: of their future husbands. You can check out the episode 479 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: we did on Bai Leaves ever at Savor for more 480 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: on that. And we also talked about South Korea's Black 481 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Day on April fourteenth, which is a day where singles 482 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: eat black foods. Two mourned their single status. But being 483 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: single is great. Oh it's all good. Hey, I'll eat food. Yeah, 484 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: I from what I understand again, listeners right in. It's 485 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: also sort of ironic, like I don't think I don't 486 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: think people are really upset about it, but I could 487 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: be wrong. So we would love to hear from anybody 488 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: who knows there are some So we did, and in 489 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: our Savor episode we talked about we were talking about 490 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: um Cuddlefish, inc. And so things just die like and 491 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: it could be anything noodles. I think noodles is traditional, 492 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: but like the outside of tumblings or cupcakesing Keane have 493 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the black hamburg or whatever. We also talked about that. Okay, yes, 494 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: so I need to go listen to that episode right now. 495 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: You do, you'll learn a lot and We would love 496 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: to learn a lot from your listeners, as we always do, 497 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: and we do have some listener mail for this one. 498 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Starting with MICHAELA. She wrote, Hey, y'all, I loved your 499 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: two parter on female revengers, particularly because I'm currently in 500 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: a production of Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus, featuring one of the 501 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: most intense here's my bias showing female avengers Tamura, Queen 502 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: of the Goths. As an actor. Villains are forever juicy 503 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: to play, but Tamura Tamura has been a mind job 504 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: and a challenge unlike anything I faced to date. The 505 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: story if you're not savvy. After losing a ten year 506 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: war against Rome, she her three sons, and a mercenary, 507 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: her secret lover, Aaron the Moore, are dragged to Rome 508 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: as trophies. Her firstborn son is chosen for sacrifice by 509 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: way of a right by the titular character Titus. She begs, 510 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: she appeals to him as a parent, but he does 511 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: not relent, and her son is needlessly by us again slaughtered. 512 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: By this, she is forever altered and irreversibly damaged and 513 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: bent on revenge of epic proportions. She is elevated to Empress. Yes. 514 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: In the same scene, her son was murdered and she 515 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: reclaims the status that will assist her in gaining vengeance, 516 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and boy, howdy does she. She aids and abets the 517 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: mutilation and rape of Titus's daughter, as well as the 518 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: murder of the daughter's new husband, frames two of his 519 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: sons he said murder, and attempts to drive Titus and 520 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: sane with grief. The thing is, he's already pretty insane. 521 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: Forty years of war will do that to someone. But 522 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: he's the victor of war and so lauded for a 523 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: service to Rome, so his wild behavior is mostly allowed, 524 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: even when he kills one of his own sons. But 525 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I digress. In the end, she loses her mind and 526 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: believes she has tricked Titus into something that will finish 527 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: him and his remaining family. However, he hasn't actually bought 528 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: the farm, and her sons are captured, murdered, and baked 529 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: into a pie, which she eats at a banquet. She 530 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: is then killed by Titus, and it is pronounced that 531 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: her body will be tossed to the animals to feast 532 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: on as it rots, because having lived beastly, she will 533 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: be food for beast. Tamura is a woman in a 534 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: man's world, who, when she behaves like a man I 535 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: e aggressively, is deemed barbarous, without womanhood and without grace. 536 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Though when Titus and every other man the play behaving kind, 537 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: no eyebrow gets raised, her sexual prowess is often discussed 538 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: as a negative, either as a tool of manipulation or 539 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: further evidence of her barbarism. Meanwhile, Titus has begotten twenty 540 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: six sons of one would have to imagine twenty six 541 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: separate women delivered to him upon on his returns from war, 542 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: because you know, dudes gotta let off some steam after 543 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: all that warring. Furthermore, Lavinia, Titus's daughter, exists to service 544 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: her father and her husband, and is literally referred to 545 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: as an object our property. Throughout the play. There are 546 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: the only two women in the play, and so the 547 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Madonna and the horror dynamic is omnipresent. I have so 548 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: much more to say, but I've already said more than 549 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: I thought I would, and I hear the actro music spelling. 550 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure my favorite Shakespearean lady Villen 551 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: got herd I saw that. I saw the movie when 552 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: I was a kid, in it. Yeah, that could be 553 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of horrifying the pie the pies anyway, 554 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Whitney wrote, I thought of you both while watching a 555 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: movie recently, and how appropriate considering you ask listeners for 556 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: movie recommendations. There's a movie out of China called The 557 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Widowed Witch about a woman who survives a factory explosion 558 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: which kills her husband. While recovering from this trauma, she 559 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: endured in other trauma, she ends up becoming a traveling shaman. 560 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: This movie seems to take off both thegories of somewhat 561 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: revenge film as well as which film is also a 562 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: non white depiction of women practicing magic. Perfect perfect love recommendations. Yes, 563 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: we're definitely going to check that out. So we need 564 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: to know how are you going to celebrate February fourteen 565 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: or not? You don't have to, I don't blame you. 566 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a unique tradition or how is it 567 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: celebrated in your neck of the woods If you don't 568 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: do Valentine's Day? Is there an equivalent or any of 569 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: those friendship days? Oh? Yes, I definitely had Gallantine's tradition 570 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: for a while. Yes, as did I. You can send 571 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: your stories answers to our questions. We had many in 572 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: this episode. Yes, please don't have vinegar valentines unless they're funny, 573 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: unless I actually would appreciate a good funny one. Yeah, 574 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: a good funny one. That's okay. 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