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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November twenty third, twenty twenty, season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number sixty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break Live and the s WBC Morgan Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Stars Thanksgiving week. But before we get to Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Cowboys big win yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They get into the win column finally after a very

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Speaker 1: very multiple season so far. They win thirty one twenty

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Speaker 1: eight to the Minnesota Vikings. And as we start usually

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Speaker 1: on Mondays, I'm going to go around the table and

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Speaker 1: get the big storyline of the game. Nick, let's start

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Speaker 1: with you. What was the biggest storyline coming out of

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Speaker 1: this game for you? They hit their ass. I mean

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Speaker 1: they hit them from the start. I mean they from

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Speaker 1: But either way, the Cowboys defense was physical from the

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Speaker 1: very beginning, and I thought that was that was just

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Speaker 1: much do you think that affects them going into a

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Speaker 1: to turn your body around to play on Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it helps when you win. I mean I think it

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Speaker 1: feels better if you if you get a win like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. But I think that after this game,

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Speaker 1: I just I love your Monday. No, I love your swings.

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Speaker 1: But you did nothing about yesterday changed what you expect

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Speaker 1: the touchdown. Both touchdowns were plays that we hadn't really

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of. The one, I mean not both touchdowns. First,

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Speaker 1: the first one to Ze throwing it out there, and

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Speaker 1: then the one to Schultz. Schultz actually said to me,

433
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Speaker 1: and you guys would laugh if you knew where I

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Speaker 1: interviewed Chiltz. But he, uh, bust bathroom, bust bathroom. No, no,

435
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Speaker 1: the plane play bathroom, bathroom close to the bathroom, not

436
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Speaker 1: not in the bathroom. Y. Yeah, everyone's looking up there

437
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: like what's going You know, it all helps when you win,

438
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Speaker 1: you know, you win, no one really cares. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said, they've been working on that for about four

440
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Speaker 1: weeks now, and I'm thinking, well, you've lost four games

441
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Speaker 1: at row why not whipping it out? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about talking about the play obviously, not anything

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Speaker 1: else by the bathroom. But I think it was a

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Speaker 1: good um. I think it was obviously a just just

445
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: a dynamic type of play call. And Kellen Moore should

446
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: get a lot of credit for that game he did.

447
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: He did a really nice job ball game he did.

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Speaker 1: Did you have something we're about to say, Dave? I

449
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: heard somebody saying, I just I was, well, I was

450
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Speaker 1: really I was muttering under my breath about Nick's um

451
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Speaker 1: plane to plane humor bathroom humor. But sorry, no, I

452
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Speaker 1: completely agreed. I just remember I was so frustrated and

453
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Speaker 1: stupefied that they would try to line up and run

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Speaker 1: right up the gut on third and one with such

455
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Speaker 1: a compromised offensive line. I mean, there was no chance

456
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Speaker 1: that was going to work. And then on fourth down

457
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Speaker 1: they ran the jet sweep to CD, which I feel

458
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Speaker 1: like I've been begging for more of that for not

459
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Speaker 1: just this season, literally for like three years. So it

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Speaker 1: was really exciting that they dusted that off right there.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you need to wait until

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Speaker 1: fourth and one to do that. You should probably do

463
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Speaker 1: it five or six times a game in all sorts

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Speaker 1: of different situations, but it's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: That was really exciting. Yeah, it was good to see

466
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Speaker 1: the combination of play calling and execution because I think

467
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Speaker 1: that throughout the season we've seen moments where Kellen Moore

468
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Speaker 1: has had some interesting play calling that had the Cowboys

469
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Speaker 1: been able to execute on the field, it would have

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Speaker 1: been great. But that's been the problem. They haven't been

471
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Speaker 1: necessarily able to combine the two and make it work.

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Speaker 1: So finally we get to see a game where the

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Speaker 1: play Collie was good and then you get the combination

474
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Speaker 1: of execution and actually seeing it work on the field.

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Speaker 1: So that was that was a good thing, and that

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Speaker 1: and that's why I might be getting a little excited

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478
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Speaker 1: I want to stop myself here, but but it was good.

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Speaker 1: It feels good. Water tasted better yesterday when I was

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Speaker 1: watching the game. So yeah, it feels good when the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys win. Hey, by the end of the show, hopeless

482
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, she is moving quickly in that direction.

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Speaker 1: All right, That water tasted better? Well, the water tasted

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Speaker 1: better that happens did your team's winning, everything seems a

486
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Speaker 1: little bit better, right, Like, like I can talk on

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Speaker 1: who said that after five minutes ago. All Right, here's

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Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to talk about Zach

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Speaker 1: reviews now. We got some players we got to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and I want to start with Zach Mardin. We found

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Speaker 1: out a Sunday morning that Zach Martin was going to

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Speaker 1: start at right Tackle something that we have been talking about.

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Speaker 1: I know I've brought it up on this show as

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Speaker 1: a question for you guys at least at least seven

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Speaker 1: to eight times over the last month and a half,

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Speaker 1: just seeing you know what the thoughts are, Why isn't

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Speaker 1: he not being the guy that they want to put

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00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: out there. They were committed to Terrence still being the

549
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Speaker 1: right tackle him. Mike McCarthy went as far as Steven

550
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Speaker 1: say he even called it fantasy football nonsense. And when

551
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: being asked about the possibilities of moving I know right

552
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: the possibility of moving Zach Martin to right tackle, but

553
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: they make the decision to do it. They put Steel

554
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: on the bench. They put mc governor at right guard,

555
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: which again is what we've all been asking for, and

556
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: as a result, the offensive line gives up one sack.

557
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: They have one of their best rushing days that they've

558
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: had the season. Zeke goes twenty one rushes for one

559
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: hundred and three yards a four point nine average. Paula

560
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: goes five for sixty twelve yard average, and he at

561
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Speaker 1: big forty two yard touchdown run. So the question is

562
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Speaker 1: his first question is is this proof that McCarthy should

563
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Speaker 1: have made this move weeks ago? Let's start first, you Dave, Yeah, absolutely,

564
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Speaker 1: it's proof everybody knew that he already did this. That's

565
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Speaker 1: what made this whole thing frustrating. Zach Martin already did

566
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Speaker 1: this in Week three. Necessity dictated that they throw him

567
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: out there. He handled it just fine, he played great.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, Mike McCarthy had the audacity to

569
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Speaker 1: call it fantasy football nonsense, that a Hall of Football

570
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber player couldn't make that switch. It

571
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: was insulting then, and it's kind of vindicating to see

572
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Zach Martin ball out like we all knew he would. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew this should have happened a long

574
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Speaker 1: time ago. You want to put your five best players

575
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: on the field. This gave him an opportunity to do so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know why they waited so long.

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Speaker 1: I guess I would probably chalk it up to arrogance

578
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: or insistence on trying to develop a swing tackle. And

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Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. You know, maybe if you're looking at the

580
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: big picture, the more reps he can get, the more

581
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Speaker 1: chance he has to be a viable player for you

582
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Speaker 1: in the future. But if you're trying to win games

583
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Speaker 1: and stay in the division hunt, like the Cowboys have

584
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: said a million times that they are, this is something

585
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: you should have done a month ago. Nick, Well, I

586
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: think that this has nothing to do with Zach Martin

587
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Speaker 1: as much as it does with the guards, you know,

588
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: like getting the five best guys and them to realize

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Speaker 1: that that is McGovern better for them? Is he is

590
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Speaker 1: he better than playing steel outside and Zach Martin at

591
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: is natural position. Now that's what we think is a

592
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: natural position is because he's played it for six years.

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Speaker 1: I kind of think he could do anything, really might

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Speaker 1: be able to play fullback. But I just think that

595
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Speaker 1: it was more about McGovern and I and I said

596
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Speaker 1: it about a couple weeks ago when we did we

597
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Speaker 1: did an article about which young player do you want

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Speaker 1: to see more down the stretch, and my choice was

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Speaker 1: mcgoverned because you got to figure this out. As a

600
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Speaker 1: third round pick, he's gotta play, and so this is

601
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Speaker 1: the best way to get him on the field to play.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was all about McGovern and getting

603
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Speaker 1: him in and I'm curious to see how he grades out.

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00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well. I know some of

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Speaker 1: those big runs were on the right side with him

606
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Speaker 1: and Zach Martin both, so he didn't seem like he

607
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Speaker 1: was a problem to me. So I thought it's great

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Speaker 1: that Zach Martin can do that, but I think it

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Speaker 1: was about McGovern and today's point. I mean, he played

610
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Speaker 1: the Washington game, so maybe he could have kept playing.

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Speaker 1: They could have done this before, but you know, Zack

612
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Speaker 1: Martin was coming back and all that. I think this

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Speaker 1: is probably this the best time to do that. Amber.

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, we've everything that they just said,

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Speaker 1: and we've been saying it that we wanted to see

616
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Speaker 1: this change for a long time. But I think it

617
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Speaker 1: maybe simplified it this time around, because now you knew

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Speaker 1: that you had Joe Looney in the center because you

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Speaker 1: had to move Biadish to the injury reserve. So that's

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Speaker 1: one move there. Then you've seen you've had a few

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Speaker 1: games where you've gone to see Connor McGovern at guard,

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Speaker 1: so you know he's very capable of handling that position.

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Speaker 1: So at this point I think that maybe maybe and

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find some kind of reasoning as

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Speaker 1: to why they waited this long, but maybe this was

626
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Speaker 1: one of those things that looking at your line at

627
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Speaker 1: this point, you actually only need to make one move,

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Speaker 1: and that's moving your all pro guard to tackle. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, you're not really messing with the rest of

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Speaker 1: the line, and we've known that sach Martin. If any

631
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Speaker 1: guy can be moved at any point without needing a

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Speaker 1: whole bye week to adjust and do all that is

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Speaker 1: Sich Martin. So I'm just glad that at least they

634
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: made it happen finally. It took a really long time,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it did cost them a few games, maybe,

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, based on the results that

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Speaker 1: we were able to see this yesterday, it's clear how

638
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: bad they needed to make this kind of move, and

639
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: it's clear how much of a help or how big

640
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Speaker 1: or how much of a need you need your like

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Speaker 1: offensive line to be able to perform better, and how

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Speaker 1: it affects the rest of your offense as a whole.

643
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've heard from McCarthy about

644
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: this on this subject was, and he's been consistent about this,

645
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: is he wants continuity on the offensive line. He thinks

646
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line is bigger than just any one player

647
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: playing well or getting reps. He was saying he wanted

648
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: to continuity and it's about having all five as much

649
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: as you can have those guys playing together. Do you

650
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: think that maybe one of the reasons why they waited

651
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: so long to make the decision was because they were

652
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: waiting for the bye week. And maybe again we're not

653
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: able to see all of practice. Maybe at practice they

654
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: were doing some of these things a little bit to

655
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: start moving them in that direction. But the bye week

656
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: gave them the ability to really get a little bit

657
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: more continuity before they rolled it out. Nick, Yeah, I

658
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: think that that's what you do in the bye week,

659
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: is that you figure out different wrinkles you can have it. No,

660
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: of course, this is more than a wrinkle. This is

661
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: a big change on the line. But this is the

662
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: time that you make those changes. And and I don't

663
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that that, you know, like like

664
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: Amber said, I mean, they kind of knew exactly what

665
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: they were going to have to do at center, and

666
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: so from there they just figured out this was this

667
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: was the best time. But I really think more than anything,

668
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: it was the development of McGovern and and the trust

669
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: in him, because now you know, it's a little different

670
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: for him when he when he started against Washington, he

671
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: had beadish and he had steel on the right side.

672
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Then he plays this game. He's got Looney in Zack Martin. So, um,

673
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think it allowed him to be more

674
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: comfortable too. But but you know, I'll say this, Let's

675
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: don't forget that that they haven't faced like a dominating

676
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: defensive line yet. I don't think Zach Martin's really faced

677
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: like this premier pass rusher and entered the Washington football team. Yeah,

678
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: he's about to amber. What do you think was the

679
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: question question was is it reasonable to assume that the

680
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: bye week gave them the ability to be able to

681
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: make this continuity and get the continuity that he's been

682
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: searching for. Well, I feel like, I mean, that's what

683
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: I kind of alluded to in my other response is, yeah,

684
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: the bye week, obviously it's always gonna help because it's

685
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: the time for you to take a step back and

686
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: rearrange and reevaluate things. But at the same time, like

687
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I said, the only thing that I see is them

688
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: knowing that Tyler is out and now you kind of

689
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: have a better idea of the guys that you have

690
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: in your line and you're not really having to reshuffle

691
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: everyone around and it's more just one guy moving to

692
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: the outside. So obviously it's gonna help. And the fact

693
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: that everything that Nick just said about Connor McGovern and

694
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: then maybe having enough trust in him to this point

695
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: allow them to finally go ahead and make that move,

696
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: because when you when you look at the option, I mean,

697
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: who would you rather have a guard? A rookie like

698
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 1: McGovern or Zack Martin. Obviously it's going to be Sack Martin.

699
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: So at this point it's just good for them to

700
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: finally look at, Okay, who are our faith, sorry, our

701
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: five best guys, And that's exactly what they're doing. They

702
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: took out Terren Steele, which he has not been any

703
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: part of their best fives at all at any point

704
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: of this season. So I'm just glad that it's finally

705
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: happened to where they're like, okay, let's now at this

706
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: point actually try to have our best five out there

707
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: on the field. Dave, I think Nick's theory about McGovern

708
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: is pretty good and I like it. I still don't

709
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: think I buy it because you've got like nine You've

710
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: got nine games of tape on Terren Steele that tells

711
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: you it ain't working. Whereas even in the glimpses that

712
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: we saw of Connor McGovern, you kind of get the

713
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: sense that, Okay, maybe he can hold his own, especially

714
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: if he's got Zach Martin next to him, so maybe

715
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: that's part of it. No, the bye week thing doesn't

716
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: hold any water whatsoever in my opinion. They didn't practice

717
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: during the bye week because of the COVID issue with

718
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: the Steelers, so didn't practice, didn't get to do any

719
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: of this stuff. Zach said last night that they didn't

720
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: tell him he was moving to tackle until Monday when

721
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: they came back from the bye and he tweaked his calf,

722
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: so he was limited in practice going into this game.

723
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: He didn't get to do as much as he would

724
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: probably prefer in terms of on field reps. He's just

725
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: that much of a badass that he can step out

726
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: there on the right side with limited experience and hold

727
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: his own. So no, I don't think that's why. I think,

728
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, I don't know why, but

729
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: they were like, enough is enough and we've got to

730
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: do something. I mean, better late than never. But I

731
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: don't buy any sort of like grand epiphany that they

732
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: were like, this is why this makes sense right now.

733
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: I think it would have made just as much sense

734
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, but at least they did it. My

735
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: personal opinion is I think this had everything to do

736
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: with this upcoming game. Think they wanted to do it

737
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: before they got to the Washington game because they knew

738
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: they were going to be facing the kind of players

739
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: where it would be more important for you to make

740
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: sure that you could show up the outside and uh.

741
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: And then I think they wanted to give Zach this

742
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: game where he didn't have that kind of matchup to

743
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: be able to kind of get used to it before

744
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: heading into the game against Washington. I personally believe that

745
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the timing on why

746
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: they decided to do it. Now, that's actually that's a

747
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: really good point. And you know, za Zack Martin is

748
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: a consummate professional with the media, like he's never he's

749
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: never gonna give you anything. I don't think it's a

750
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: complete coincidence. I know he heard his calf, but he

751
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: didn't talk to the media this week, and I just

752
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a complete coincidence that they were

753
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe like, ah, let's let's keep people in the dark

754
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: for as long as we can. But he said last

755
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: night after the game, he was like, well, you know,

756
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: for this, for this first game, I thought it went

757
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: really well. And I asked him I was like, you

758
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: keep saying for this first game, does that mean you

759
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: anticipate staying out there for the foreseeable future? And he

760
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'll be out there on Thursday and

761
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens after that. So I think

762
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense that they were like, Zach,

763
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: please help us deal with these Washington edge rushers. This

764
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be a problem otherwise. All right, let's talk

765
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton. He was twenty two to thirty two,

766
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: sixty nine percent completion rate, two hundred and three yards,

767
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one interception, and one hundred and four quarterback rating.

768
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Was it better, worse or the same as what you

769
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: expected coming into this game from him? Nick, Let's start

770
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: with you. I thought it was a little bit better

771
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: than what I thought. I mean, mainly more his presence

772
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: in the pocket, you know, because he ran for a

773
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: first down at one time, and I thought he didn't,

774
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: you know, for a guy that took a big hit,

775
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: and then you know he's he's been out for a

776
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. He didn't look timid to me too bad.

777
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he was rushing his throws or scared

778
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: to be in the pocket. I thought he hung in

779
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: there pretty good. And and you know, I thought what

780
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks said on Our Shore last week about how

781
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be a superhero here, just go

782
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: out and play within himself, and I thought that's what

783
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: he did. So yeah, it was it was a little

784
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: bit better than than what I thought, but you know,

785
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was. It was a good

786
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: solid performance by him. Amber I think, uh yeah, a

787
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: little bit better than than I expected, at least at

788
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: this point of the season, based on everything that we've seen.

789
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Obviously we just got done talking about the old line

790
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: that was a huge help for him. I thought he

791
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: did a nice job and that Kelly Moore did a

792
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: nice job just kind of creating place for that would

793
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: accommodate to him and his skills. I think that the

794
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: fact that they were able to get so many guys

795
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: involved so many options for him, so many different targets,

796
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, he wasn't perfect or anything, but at the

797
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: same time, just uh we and we've known he's a

798
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: very capable guy. It is just the fact of being

799
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: able to plug him in in this type of offense

800
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: and making it work. So I thought that the what

801
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore did as far as adjusting everything to hopefully

802
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: to what I think favor him and give him as

803
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: many options as possible definitely helped. And I thought he

804
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: did a very nice job overall, because I didn't have

805
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: any faith at that Before Sunday, I had no faith,

806
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: no faith at all. So now now, yes, I'm on

807
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: the Andy Dalton boat again. Man, I suck. I sucked

808
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: because I switched my feelings so much with this team

809
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: that it just sucks. But yes, good job by Andy Dalton, Dave.

810
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Nobody believed in my guy, Andy Nobody. No, everybody wanted

811
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: Derek Gilbert, which actually so I thought he played great.

812
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not trying to hate

813
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: on him. I thought it was worse than what I

814
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: was expecting, to be honest with you, just just by

815
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. And when I say that, I mean, yeah,

816
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: he distributed the ball well. I thought he looked he

817
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: looked so poised and like he looked like a ten

818
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: year vet who's been to three Pro Bowls, Like he

819
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: didn't look phased by any of it. But six yards

820
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: per attempt is really it's not wonderful by NFL standards,

821
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: like the vertical element of the offense was not really there.

822
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought he'd be capable of a few

823
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: more explosive plays. Some of that isn't his fault, you know,

824
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup dropped along completion and you know, so it's

825
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: but like I said, you know, the explosive elements of

826
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: the offense wasn't there, but it can still come. So

827
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's awful. And again, he

828
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: played great. You know, he was clutch, he had three touchdowns,

829
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: he threw the game winning touchdown pass. You can obviously

830
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: win games with him playing the way that he played,

831
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: but against obviously everybody left on the schedule kind of sucks.

832
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: But against a better defense than Minnesota's. You know, they've

833
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: got like four rookies in the secondary. Against the better

834
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: defense than Minnesota's, yeah, I mean against I mean, Washington's

835
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: got this great front that's gonna make life difficult on him.

836
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: So against a better defense, I think you're gonna need

837
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: him to. Like I said, there's gonna be a need

838
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: to need to be more explosive in the passing game,

839
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: probably if I had to guess, But it's a hell

840
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: of a first step in the right direction. I thought

841
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: he played really well. All We're gonna flip to the

842
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. We got to talk about

843
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson yesterday. He has two takeaways. He is among

844
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: the league leaders with nine tackles in the last two weeks.

845
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: He has three forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, two and

846
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: a half sacks. Has Dallas finally found a playmaking safety again?

847
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying these perfect or great. I am saying

848
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: he might be the best prospect that they've had at

849
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the safety position in quite a long time. What are

850
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Amber, Let's start with you him. Well, I

851
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: want to ask this question to you guys who have

852
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: a more experienced eye and perspective of the game. What

853
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: was the big difference here? How come like all this

854
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: funny we we keep seeing Donival Wilson in this game

855
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: making plays and he's like, Okay, where has this been

856
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: all year? So? What was the how? How? How did

857
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: that make this happen? And how did he all of

858
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: a sudden start making plays like this like we saw

859
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: last night? So I need one of you guys to

860
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: answer this for me, please. Well, I wrote a whole

861
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: college I'll take a stab at it. Letting Nick, unless

862
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: you've got well, I just laughed because my whole time

863
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: was based off that question. Like, I really hope people

864
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: don't say where has this been all year? And of course,

865
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: um that was the question. But of course I'm gonna

866
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: ask it, you know, ask for Donovan Wilson. It's it's

867
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: actually fair because I don't have a great answer for

868
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: that one. I had answered for other ones, but because

869
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: all he's ever done is made a play. Yeah, since

870
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: he got here, Yeah, I mean yeah, I just I

871
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: don't did he run poortally at the combine? I mean

872
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, because apparently he did it at A

873
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: and M I mean, Rob was going nuts on Twitter,

874
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: you know because with his achie making plays like that.

875
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't know what the

876
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: thought process is. I think I think the game was

877
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: kind of big for him, Um, you know, just just

878
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: learning and learning, you know, just picking up and being

879
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: aware and stuff like that. But when he was out there,

880
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, he always seemed the ball just seems to

881
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: find him. And that's a huge that's a huge strait

882
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: for safety. It was interesting this morning I saw on

883
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: Twitter someone put up Dane blue Brugle, who also does

884
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: some draft coverage for US his draft right up on

885
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, and one of the things he said was

886
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can make plays, but he's a

887
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: guy that can also be overly aggressive, and that can

888
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: be frustrating at times because it causes him to overrun plays,

889
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: it causes him sometimes to get targeting calls because he's

890
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: just a little too aggressive. Um, And so I think

891
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: that may be part of it. Is all we've seen

892
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: since he's got there, Like you said, even in practice.

893
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: We've been talking about him making plays in practice for

894
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: a while now. Yeah, the issue is that they just

895
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: haven't gotten him on the field. And now he's on

896
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: the field, he's making plays. My question is, and what

897
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: I want to go back and watches. Were there plays

898
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: in the game yesterday and last week where he should

899
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: have been in a place that he wasn't or he

900
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: didn't quite get to make a tackle because he made

901
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: he was a little too overaggressive. That's the kind of

902
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't always show up, especially for guys making plays.

903
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: You kind of gloss over that kind of stuff. I

904
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: wonder if that's what's happening when you talk about a

905
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: guy like this that's kind of a you know, he

906
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: can do some big things, but he can also make

907
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: some mistakes. For you, Dave, do you have an opinion

908
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: on that? I don't want to, Well, I don't want to.

909
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: You're right, like I need to go back and watch it.

910
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: I need to go back and watch it before I

911
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: form an opinion. But I'm pretty sure he had a

912
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: hand in jeff justin Jefferson's long touchdown, Like I think

913
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: he was back in single high on that touchdown. So

914
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did not play a perfect game, but

915
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: it sure is refreshing to just see a guy who

916
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: can make plays on the ball. Like, you know, I'm

917
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: not trying to say Donovan Wilson's definitely gonna be the

918
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: next great Cowboys safety, but we just, like I said

919
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: when I you know, when I said, that was the

920
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: big moment of the game, Like, we just haven't seen

921
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: that from the position. Lord knows Xavier Woods, He's had

922
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities in his career. He doesn't usually cash

923
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: in on them, So it was just nice to see

924
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: a safety who was capable of doing that. I'm positive

925
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: he didn't play a perfect game, but I'll take what

926
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: i can get. Yeah, At this point, it's kind of

927
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, those kind of the same things we've talked

928
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: about with trey Von Diggs. You know, he's not perfect,

929
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: but at least you like the fact he's making a

930
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: play every now and then, right, he's doing something to

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: make a play. And if you could turn the ball

932
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: over on this team, then that's a guy I want

933
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: to keep on this team because they don't have enough

934
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: of those guys that are making those kinds of plays.

935
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: And he turned like literally both those turnovers yesterday's those

936
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: are plays that he made. This was not a quarterback

937
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: that kind of overthrew a guy and you just happen

938
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: to be in the right spot and you make the interception.

939
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: These were situations where he literally the quarterback's going down

940
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: and he strips the ball from the quarterback. Yeah, or

941
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: the guy's coming across the middle of the field, he

942
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: makes the catch and then you light him up in

943
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: order to get the ball out and then to turn over. Like,

944
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: those are opportunities that wouldn't be there but for his play.

945
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: Can't give you some bad news. Sure, I don't know

946
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: if it's next I don't know if it's Thursday or

947
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: in Baltimore or whatever. He's gonna get a fifteen yard

948
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: penalty here pretty like, yes, a cup probably. I mean

949
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: he could have actually got one on his hit to Cousins,

950
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: you know. I mean if it was because he's very aggressive. Yeah,

951
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this, serry, if you would have

952
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: played for Arkansas, I have been targeting. I will tell

953
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: you this. I will tell you this. I will take

954
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: a little bit and kicked out of that game. Here

955
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. I don't want to get

956
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: into that. I will tell you this, though. I do

957
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: think that he's going to be the kind of player

958
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: that I will take that from some of the time.

959
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: If he can give me some of the plays like

960
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: we like he gave him yesterday. I'll take a little

961
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: bit of over aggressive at times for this particular defense,

962
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: because I think they need a little bit of that.

963
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate you join us. Go ahead, Dave.

964
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Can I just I just one. I hate to be mean,

965
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: be I get it has nothing to do with Donovan Wilson,

966
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: but it's just something that I'm thinking about. Because we're

967
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: talking about safeties, we're talking about being aggressive. Blah blah blah.

968
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: Can we can we stop giving Darren Woodson's number to

969
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: the waldough of the defense, like it bums me out,

970
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: like twenty eight deserve I'm not saying, I'm not saying

971
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: it needs to be retired, but it was Darryl Worley

972
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: at the start of the season. And I'm not trying

973
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: to hate on Richard Robinson. Lord knows why. I mean,

974
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I put that on the coaches more than anything that

975
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: a practice squad guy had to play that many snaps.

976
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: But it just hurts my heart a little bit to

977
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: see number twenty eight just get picked on by the

978
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: opposing offense like all season long, like all all year.

979
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: So just I don't know, maybe maybe do something about that, like,

980
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, have a heart for Darren Woodson Mayan. I

981
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: don't know. The equipment managers have told has told me

982
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: before that they try to protect certain players, like, yeah,

983
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: you won't see a thirty three at a running back.

984
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: You might see him defensive back or whatever, or forty

985
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: eight it's not going to be a fullback or whatever.

986
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna protect those guys. So that surprises me that

987
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: a dB. I mean, they gave it to Felix Jones

988
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: as a running back, but at twenty eight, no, I

989
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: think I think, right, Dave, that's a bit more discerning, right,

990
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: offensive player. Yea. At this point, if you're gonna do it,

991
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: then do it for a guy that you feel like

992
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: is a little better player. Pick or right, do it

993
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: the other way, like you're ninety four, or of course

994
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: you're eighty eight, and say, all right, this guy, are

995
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: you worthy of it? Yeah? Exactly, I certainly haven't seen

996
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: that twenty eight. That's that caliber and of safety we have. Now,

997
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: all right, we appreciate you, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow.

998
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna start getting into Cowboys versus the Washington football team.

999
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Speaker 1: Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, and Regarcia, I

1000
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,600
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