1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports where in the situation 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, pandemic here 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating for 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: for years. From a Macrew standpoint, I think our sport 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: industry is really forced to look at the business a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: little bit differently. In depth conversations with the leaders in 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the sports industry. Who wants to be the sacrificial lambs 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: that shows up at the first big major sporting event, 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a part of something much bigger than the sport right 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: now and the health and raptry of our stakeholders, the 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: boks much important every moment. I think we're all from 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: the business respective thinking about the impact that the virus 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: is having a across the country. In Bloomberg Business of 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hi everyone, I'm John stash Are, 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Business of Sports. I'm Bloomberg Radio. Oh 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: I know that voice. Hello, I'm Michael barn and I'm 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch. We are here on Monday's, Wednesdays Thursdays to 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: explored the big money issues in the world of sports 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: and talk to some of the biggest players in the industry. 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Guys it's good to be with you. I'm filling in 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: for Jason Kelly. I I guess I've been a deviated 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: off the Bloomberg Radio taxi squad here today, and um yeah, 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say it's great to be on, 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: first of all, with Michael Barr, who I listened to 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: every morning because I get to follow him on Bloomberg Daybreak. 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: So great to talk to you and Mike Lynch. I'm 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: certainly very familiar with all your years on TV in Boston. 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: The other thing I know about Mike Lynch, and I 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: mentioned this because we're gonna talk about college football. My 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: first job in radio million years ago was in New Haven, Connecticut, 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and I did play by play of Yale football. And 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: so when you prepared to do the Yale Harvard v game, 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: you have to immerse yourself in the history of the 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Yale Harvard game. So I know all about the Mike 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Lynch field goal a couple of years ago. I think 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: that was it was a few years ago, and that 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: you're still you're gonna talk to me anyway, even though 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: you were working in New Him. I was, yeah, I 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: was a yell ya. Well, unfortunately there was no global 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: pandemic that year, so you got to make that field goal. 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: There is one this year. So guys, let's talk about 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the news this week, which you kind of saw coming 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: for months right now, but we finally learned at least 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten and the Pack twelve no fall sports. 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna maybe try and play football in the spring. 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: We'll see if that happens. We'll see if these other conferences, 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: the Big twelve, SEC and a SEC go ahead with 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: plans to play in the fall. But I don't know 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: about you, guys. You could see this coming. It was 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: one thing to ask professional athletes making millions of dollars 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: to incur the health risks to go on the field 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and the cord of the ice. It was another thing 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: to ask college kids. And I I just felt like 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: it was also one thing to play these professional sports 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: games without fans, as we've been watching for a couple 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: of weeks. To me, college football without fans just wasn't 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: college football. I mean, they talk about the college atmosphere. 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Every times you hear announcers saying it's like a college atmosphere, 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that atmosphere without fans. So to me, anyway, 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: if it was gonna be like that. It just wasn't 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: worth the risk that these kids would have had to 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: take to play. As al Michaels would say, you would 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: not hear a cacophony of sound and at all at 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the event. And you're right, it's it's hard to hold 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: a college event, a big football game like that. And 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: and you're right, Stash, I I knew there was gonna 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: be trouble. I was reading the Detroit Free Press earlier 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: this week and they were saying those signs were there. 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Of course, the Detroit area is not far from in Arbor, 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: where um, the University of Michigan play at the Big House. 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this is this is not good. 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: You saw this coming a mile away, LYNDI. Yeah, you 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: called this one, Michael bar a couple of weeks ago, 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: while you said I'm getting some bad vibes out of 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. And the Big Ten generates the more 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: most revenue of any of the Power five conferences, and 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: this is a major decision each school in the league. 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Last year it collected more than fifty five million dollars. 79 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: So this this is really going to be a big hit, 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: not not only to the football proke. But some of 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: the non revenue sports in the lead, like the Big Ten, 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering what the Big twelve, the A 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: c C, and the SEC. I think they're just sort 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of ignoring this thing, maybe hoping that it would go away. 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: A miracle vaccine is going to show up the day 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: before there their first game. But they can't be far 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: behind following the pack twelve of the Big Ten. Well, 88 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of these economic ramifications. And you 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: mentioned Mike. I mean, when you're budgeting for so much 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: revenue to come in and that money does not come in, Um, 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be ramifications. Jobs are going to be lost. 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean in these athletic departments at these universities. Obviously, 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: the A d s generally make a lot of money, 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: but as you know, you guys know that the assistant 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: sports information director guys like that, they don't make a 96 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of money. And they're the guys men and women 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: who I am afraid they're gonna lose their jobs. Um, 98 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: without this revenue coming in this year, well you're talking 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: about a hundred million dollars a year for the elite 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: programs that they bring in, just simply off of football. 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: So between that of losing that and then you throw 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: in at the TV AD revenue and ESPN, ABC are like, 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: oh no, uh, they are going to lose in fact, 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: all of the networks together. According to the analysts, they're 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: gonna lose almost one point two billion dollars in AD 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: revenue for the US television networks. That's what they generated 107 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: last year. So if you don't have that, now, uh, Lynchie, 108 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: it's a mess. Well, we've already seen some of the 109 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: carnage in some of the schools that eliminated soccer programs, 110 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: wrestling programs, crew programs. I mean, Stanford was one of 111 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the big surprises that eliminated eleven of varsity sports that 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: had been around at Stanford for a long long time. 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: So this is just really going to be bad. And 114 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these sports are going to 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: probably be relegated to club sports status rather than varsity 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: sports status going forward. Yeah, I mean people are wondering, well, 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, how much money does it cost to play 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, field hockey or something. I mean these I mean, 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: some of these schools are in leagues like let's take 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: the Big ten, right, Let's take take say your ructors right, 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: ructors just joined the Big Ten up out too long ago. 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: The field hockey team has to travel to Iowa to 123 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: play a game, you know, and that's so that's what 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: we're twenty kids and a couple few coaches and a 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: trainer and you know, so there are costs and they 126 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: don't generate any revenue. We know, football is the one 127 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that brought in all the revenue. So someone has to 128 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: lose out and I feel for you know, you feel 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: for these kids who when sports returns, which they will someday, 130 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: there their teams may not be there to play. Well, 131 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: let's see if it comes in the spring. And I'm 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: not so sure that's going to happen. At least that's 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: what the Big Ten is so opening for. Uh. This 134 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: who saw this coming? COVID Uh just destroying a lot 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: of our lives. Uh. And we have to keep in 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: mind sports, Yes, it is a business involved, but the 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: real deal is it's entertainment. And I know people down 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: if you're rooting for the University of Alabama, you want 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: to see the roll Tide go. But yet we're not, 140 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, we're not talking about professional players. 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about kids. They're still on their teams and 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: and they're growing out there on the field. And I've 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: always said it's one thing when you want to root 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: for a pro player, but when mama's baby is out 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: there and you know there's a risk of catching this virus, 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: things will change. Mike, Well, one of the big concerns, 147 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: especially in the Big Tent, is myocarditis. Now five members 148 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: of the Big Tent at myocarditis up here in Boston, 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and the Red Sox number one starter Edwater Rodriguez tested 150 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: positive and then he developed milcardidis, so they shelved him 151 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: for the year. So a lot of people think, well, 152 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: the young people, if they get COVID nineteen, they're in 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: good shape. Their immune systems are pretty good. It's going 154 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: to be like a bad case of the flu when 155 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna bounce back. Now we've got this other complication 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: right here. There's also an agent up here in the 157 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: in the New England area, and there was a big 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: story in him. He developed it when he was down 159 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: in the South recruiting potential clients for the NFL Draft. 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: His name is Sean Stillato and to this day he 161 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: had a bad case of of COVID nineteen. He's doing 162 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: fine now, except he can't smell anything and he can't 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: taste anything, and he leaves a big ball of palmers 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: are on cheese and his refrigerator every morning and opens 165 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: the door and it's kind of sounds kind of funny, 166 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and he's he's laughing about this, just to see if 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: I get my sense of smell back, and he doesn't. 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: So you know that there there are, you know, complications 169 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: from this that that they have to be concerned about. 170 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: This isn't just a case of Okay, maybe if some 171 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: young people get it, they're going to recover from it, 172 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and they're gonna bounce back because they're twenty two years 173 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: old and healthy and they're in great shape. When you 174 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: start talking about the heart, you got a whole different 175 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: ball game. Yeah, and this is also football, which we 176 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen yet in this pandemic. I mean, we're seeing 177 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 1: baseball and obviously baseball players tested positive, but from all accounts, 178 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: they got that going out or whatever, but it wasn't 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: from the field of play. And we haven't seen any 180 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: positive tests out of the NBA and NHL. But in football, 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: just in informal college practices. Right, we were hearing about 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: Clemson with like dozens of positive tests, so god knows 183 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: how many positive tests are going to come out if 184 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: they're actually playing football, Which leads to the question of 185 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, who, of course, as of now, still planning 186 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: to play. But you have to wonder, well, I just 187 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: wonder if you can keep any of these NFL players. 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a mean way. In in 189 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: a so called bubble atmosphere, when I'm getting at is 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: that somebody is going to do it. Somebody's gonna go 191 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: to the bar and all of a sudden, all you 192 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: know what breaks Lewis. I think there was a Cleveland 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: Indians player and yeah, they dashed out to the bar 194 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: and they broke protocol, so they had to go back home. 195 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's yes, I get it. When you're in 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: a in a bubble, it's hard. But the NBA is 197 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: trying to do it, the NHL is doing it, and 198 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: so far those two sports have been successful. I just 199 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: wonder what's going to happen with the NFL. And like 200 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: you said, guys, they travel from city to city, so 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: who knows, And now you're talking about Vegas with their 202 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: new team, what's going to happen? This is this is 203 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: not going to be good. Well, two teams in the 204 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: NFL are discussing using a bubble Dallas in New Orleans 205 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: right now. But you know, when you're talking about a 206 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: basketball team, probably a party of thirty maybe um and 207 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more for hockey. The same thing 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: for MLS soccer and the w n b A, which 209 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: is all working for them. But football, I mean, the 210 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: traveling party is enormous. It's over a hundred people. I 211 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: mean they were there were there's like two assistant coaches 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: for every position on the field, I think. But when 213 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: you get the trainers and the doctors and then the 214 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: pr staff, Um, you know you've seen a chartered NFL playing. 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean that thing comes off and it fills five 216 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: bus loads of people. You can't quarantine them for for 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: six months. It's impossible. Um, let's say hypothetically there's I 218 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: guess there's no college football, but the NFL is going forward. 219 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: There has been talk that the NFL guys would take 220 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: over TV on Saturdays, something that's never happened before. It's 221 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: always been Saturday's for college football. Sunday's is for the NFL. 222 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: If they're not playing college football, I'm sure the networks 223 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: would love to put on some games. It would be 224 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: weird to me though, because it's always like Sunday and 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: obviously Monday night, but Thursday night. But could you envision 226 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: that happening? Oh yeah, And let me break down some numbers, 227 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why I can see that happening, 228 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: and that we had talked about this earlier about the 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: TV ads at risk one point two billion dollars, And 230 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: it breaks down according to the Standard Media Index, ESPN 231 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: is at risk lose five hundred thirty four million dollars, 232 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: ABC two eight million, Fox a hundred ninety six million, 233 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: CBS a hundred fifty one million, and NBC at seventeen million. 234 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: So you put all that in the kitty, all of 235 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: a sudden, you you're gonna see some Saturday games. It's like, yeah, 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: let's go. I don't care if it's the Detroit Lions playing, 237 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to see that. But but it's true. 238 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's any football is going to work. And 239 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: even my guys man in the Motor City, I love them. Well, 240 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: there's always been a sort of gentleman's agreement that the 241 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: NFL wouldn't play on Saturday because that was for for 242 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: college football, and the only time that the NFL does 243 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: play is when the college football regular season is over, 244 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: and of course during the playoffs. And one of the 245 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: time slots that generates the biggest audience is that Saturday night, 246 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: eight o'clock on NFL when the NFL starts their playoffs. 247 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: And that's a prime position that that every network wants 248 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: to get, and they try to rotate it, so you know, 249 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: they'll probably be seeing a four thirty game in an 250 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: eight o'clock game on Saturdays if college football has wiped 251 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: out and the NFL goes forward. All right, let's get 252 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: back a little to the college football. And again, it's 253 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: so weird right now, at least as things stand right now, 254 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Big ten, Pack twelve, we're not going to play sec A, CEC, 255 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Big twelve we are going to play I mean that 256 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: sounds crazy. How are you gonna You're gonna have a playoff, 257 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a championship. You can stick a big 258 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: aster risk on the season. And you know a lot 259 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: of people probably didn't realiz is this n c double 260 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: A supposedly this governing body to oversee. Now they did. 261 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: They were the ones that canceled March Madness because they 262 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: run that tournament, but they don't run I guess regular 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: season college football shouldn't. They shouldn't there be a Commissioner 264 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: of college football. I I you know what, It's funny 265 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, and I was thinking about that. It's like, yeah, 266 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: something to oversee all of this. And uh and yes, 267 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: you have the n C Double A and and Emmert. 268 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: But I mean, I agree with you there should be 269 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: some sort of commissioner overall for college football because this 270 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: would help a lot in trying to sort all of 271 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: this out because right now it's you have each conference 272 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: trying to set up their own play. I mean, how 273 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: does this happen? It's I agree with you, it's I 274 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: don't know what structure you're going to have and what 275 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: championship you're going to have. And let me throw another 276 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: thing in here, Um, Boston College is in the A 277 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: c C. And the government Massachusetts Charlie Baker last week 278 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: just came out and because there's been an uptick in 279 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: the number of cases in Massachusetts. He says gatherings outside 280 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: gatherings used to be a hundred people or less. Now 281 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: he's cut that in half to fifty people. Does that 282 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: pertain to the kids that are on the sidelines during 283 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: a football game? Is that considered a gathering of more 284 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: than fifty people? I don't know so well, each individual 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: state say no, you can't play in my state because 286 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: we forbid to have this many people collectively together at 287 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: one time. So you've got all kinds of chefs here, governors, 288 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: you're looking at conference commissioners, and you're right, there isn't 289 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: one governing body that's going to make a rule for everybody. 290 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: So this even if they decided to go forward, you 291 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: know what if they get to Monday of of a 292 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: game and you know, Clemson's coming up to play Boston 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: College and the government Massachusetts says no, no, no, no, 294 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: you can't play here. That's too many people are gonna 295 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: be gathering together at one time. It's not the social 296 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: distancing that I have mandated. What happens then you go 297 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: to a neutral site, play the game down at Clemson? Yeah, 298 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: you're asking questions. There's still so many questions. How about 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: Nebraska there? Nebraska, they you know, voted no that they 300 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to play, but they were outvoted. I guess 301 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: twelve to two. I think maybe I have voted no too, 302 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: but they are adamant. Their coach, Scott Frost is about there, No, 303 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: we're going to play. Well, who are they gonna play? 304 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: The other leagues have said we're only playing basically in 305 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: conference games this year. I think maybe one league is 306 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: playing in one non conference game. Notre Dame was able 307 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: to get into the A c C. Fortunately for them 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: if that happens. But I mean, I don't see where 309 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: in Nebraska they may want to play, but I don't 310 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: know who they're gonna play. Well, Jim Harbaugh University of Michigan, 311 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, he wants he's all set ready to play. 312 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: But I think what Ohio State Ryan Day said, well 313 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, hold on. So we're gonna see 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: how this plays out. And this and and I'm not 315 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: trying to to make fun of this when I say this. 316 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: This is turning out a lot like governors in all 317 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the states and how they're fighting the coronavirus. Each one 318 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: has a different plan and that's kind of what we're 319 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: seeing right now with the different conferences on what they 320 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: want to do. Yep. And at the you know, the 321 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: at the very beginning of this pandemic, that was the 322 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: one of the big issues. No two states could agree 323 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: because especially bordering states in a spcause I do all 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: this work right here, you know, in New York, and 325 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the New Jersey opens the floodgates. So it's it's gonna 326 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: spill over into into college football, no question if these 327 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: three conferences decided to go forward. Alright, guys, let's switch 328 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: gears a little here on the Business Sports Bloomberg video. 329 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: John Stashower, Michael Barr, Mike Lynch. I. I was very 330 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: into the PGA Championship last week. And p g A, 331 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: as you guys know, usually kind of a nondescriptive of 332 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: the four majors. You know, the Masters we know about 333 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: with the tradition, and the US Open is the US Open, 334 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: and the Open Championship is always fun to watch across 335 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: the pond. The p G A sometimes doesn't get much attention, 336 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: but this time it was the first major of the year. 337 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: It used to always be the last, and so it 338 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: was a great final round. There was a seven way 339 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: tie for the lead coming down to the stretch, and um, 340 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: what do you guys think of golf with no fans, 341 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: especially in a major. This guy steps up and drives 342 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: the green on a par four at the sixteenth hold, 343 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: there would normally be a tremendous roar from the crowd. 344 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't have that. Did that? Did Did we 345 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: lose something something? Obviously? But how much do we lose 346 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: from not having fans? Well, they should have miked my 347 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: house because I mean I was yelling. I'm like, oh 348 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: my god. They were making shots left and right, and 349 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: like you said, Stash, seven guys tied for the lead 350 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: and you haven't seen that in a long like you 351 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: gotta go back to Lee Trevino for Cryov to see 352 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: something like that. And I was yelling my head off. 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm like and and for me to yell during a 354 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: golf championship, my wife probably looked at me like, are 355 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: your nuts? What? What did you do? Did you have 356 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: a beer? It's like, this is golf, man. But this 357 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: was exciting and that and I think that's why they 358 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: had some of the best ratings in the final round. 359 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: TV ratings up this year from five point six one 360 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: from last year's five point zero one. And there's a 361 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: reason for that. In the final round you had, you 362 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: had one way of a final round. It's also in 363 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: prime time. Should is on the West coast. It was there, 364 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: which is great. You know, if the weather is great 365 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: here and you want to go to the beach, you 366 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: want to go hiking, you want to go play golf, 367 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: which I did. Um, you can come home, you know, 368 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: do a little yard work, water the tomatoes, you know, 369 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: pull some weeds out of the garden, and then say yeah, 370 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: they'll sit down around six, I got four hours to 371 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: watch golf. And uh so the timing, I think playing 372 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: on the West coast out at Harding Park really really 373 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: helped the audience. Plus, the interest is, here's our first 374 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: major right now, and let's say, you know, how's Tiger 375 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: going to do in a major? How's Phil going to 376 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: do in a major? Brooks keptco who's always surfaces in 377 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: place place? Well, so it was a curiosity factor and 378 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: a great leaderboard coming down the final day, and you know, 379 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: we've got two more majors to look forward to. It's 380 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a busy fall. You know. I keep seeing 381 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: these two at the Kentucky Derby. We got the D five, 382 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: got the US Open, we got the Masters, we've got 383 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Pearl football, and you know we went We're gonna go 384 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: from like the cupboard was completely bare and now how 385 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna stuff everything into the cupboard. Famine two feast. 386 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: There were there were mornings on Bloomberg Red. I'll never 387 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: forget the morning where I was like, I got I 388 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: got nothing here, and there was that. There was remember 389 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the horse they did horse on ESPN. I can't believe 390 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm giving horse results. And then you know, and then 391 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: now I'm like, I don't know, I need more time, 392 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, because ye last week we had I mean, 393 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: now we got NBA playoffs, and so what about this 394 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: whole idea. We just talked about golf without ends, which 395 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I think you can kind of live with it. You 396 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: missed the roar of the crowd. But I'm just well, 397 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I've been watching and it's still 398 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: and looked. I watched the five overtime game in hockey 399 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: last night. That was fun to watch. But when we 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: get to like the Stanley Cup final, the World Series, 401 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: no fans, I just think there's that's gonna be very bizarre. 402 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: You know what I like about it? Though? When if 403 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: if they don't do it without crowd noise. I love 404 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: to hear the players yell on the field. I share 405 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: would like to know what they were saying during the 406 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: Oakland A's game when it was the bench clearing brawl, 407 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: because I'm sure there was a seven second delay with that, 408 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: and it's that is unique to hear what they're saying. 409 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: And you're right though, I mean, it's like the World Series. 410 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: The crowd is always something. I mean, you know, who 411 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: will forget Joe Carter, you know, and he and he 412 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: knocks the game winning home run, uh for Toronto to 413 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: win it, and the crowd goes ballistic, and yeah, that's 414 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: exciting to see in here. Um, I don't know, I 415 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen that. That's a good question, guys. 416 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I think that the basketball has done a pretty good 417 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: job facing in the fake crowd noise. Uh, baseball has 418 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: done an okay job. It's inoffensive to me, um golf 419 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: that that the shots of the players are so tight 420 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: all the time that you don't actually notice the crowd 421 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: because you've you've focused in on the guy's potter, the 422 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: guy's face, his reaction after he swings. He's either pointing 423 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: right or left, or he knows that he's at the 424 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: sweet spot. But you know, unless you have like someone 425 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: draining a thirty ft put that's the only time you 426 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: really notice the roar of the crowd. So golf doesn't 427 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: bother me that much. I think that, I think, and 428 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: I think all the broadcast crews are doing a great job. 429 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Many of them I know are working on the studios, 430 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: which is a little bit hard to see because you 431 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: will basically only see what we see at home. Um so, um, 432 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting used to it. Let me put it that way, 433 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting used to it. What do you think the 434 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: ratings are gonna be? I mean, it's like always a 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: lot depends on who. I mean. If Lebron is in 436 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, right, got a chance to win the 437 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: NBA Championship for third different team, We're gonna watch, right. Um? 438 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: If the Yankees play the Dodgers in the World Series, right, 439 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: people are gonna watch. So is it like any other year? 440 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Like kind of depends on what the matchup is. Yeah, 441 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: because they believe it or not. The Tigers are playing 442 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: well and the Tigers have a shot to make the playoffs. 443 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: I just wonder what kind of ratings the Tigers would draw. 444 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: I was thinking of Michael Barr because the Tigers are 445 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: in second place at nine and six right now at 446 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: half a game out and I may take a picture 447 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: of that on my phone because when was the last 448 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: time they're better? They're better than the Red sixe. Yeah, 449 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: the Red Sox are and then the Basement still with 450 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: that six and eleven and how about you know, and 451 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: then then the oak Then they look at the teams 452 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: in first place, like the Oakland A's, you know, the 453 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Mighty Marlins. Who would have thought they we thought they're 454 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: going to fold and now they're in first place in 455 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: the nationally East. You can catch our podcast right here 456 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. I'm John Stash and I'm 457 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: like Flinch. You can follow me on Twitter at Lynch 458 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: e w CBB. And I'm Michael Bar. 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