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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: car Doctors. This is where car owners the world overturned

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Speaker 1: bad week with your automobile, if your mechanic gave you

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Speaker 1: it easy for you to just get some information. That's

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Speaker 1: what this radio shows about. If you're if you've been

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Speaker 1: the problem. Here's a possible solution based on. Well, let's see,

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Speaker 1: now it's forty three years. I think I'm fixing cars

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Speaker 1: By going against the grain against my beloved new York Giants.

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Speaker 1: By the way. You know, just last of my rent.

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Speaker 1: cups for a retail price of between eight and twelve dollars.

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Speaker 1: just you know, It's like I feel like Bob Grant.

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Speaker 1: and talk to him. Doug, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir,

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Thanks so much for taking my call. Run,

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Speaker 1: long time listener, love the show. You teach me something

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Speaker 1: every week. I started working on cars about the same

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Speaker 1: more relaxing. Well, I can see. I could see the

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Speaker 1: So you know I'm in your world. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you in the oil thing. Uh, never understood it. Thirty miles,

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Speaker 1: Got a good friend of two thousand thirteen Subaru outback

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Speaker 1: Took it to the dealer, the dealer UH and the

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Speaker 1: the bill. Thanks for coming by, Gee, thanks for playing

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Speaker 1: how special? Yeah my feeling. This is the friends brew

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Speaker 1: What they probably did. They probably did an e C

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Speaker 1: from starting right away. Not it's not necessarily temperature related.

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Speaker 1: And but but you know, if we were gonna have

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Speaker 1: that for a year and a half nobody could fix.

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Speaker 1: And the fix was simple, and part of the fix

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Speaker 1: was also a computer reflesh. And it's just you know

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Speaker 1: looked at cooling and intake air tempt sensors. If if

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Speaker 1: And that that's that's that's my first thought. Second thought,

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Speaker 1: but it may be the beginning of it. They have

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Speaker 1: a problem with the purge control solenoid for evap leaking.

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Speaker 1: And I've I've had the experience where it will do

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Speaker 1: And you will not see a fault code until it

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Speaker 1: And um, maybe a four fifty seven evapp issue along

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Speaker 1: with some break lights and skid lights and all these

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Speaker 1: mode six. You were in the business, remember mode six,

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Speaker 1: probably how I would attack it. I would be thinking fuel,

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Speaker 1: not so much spark. I mean, yeah, you know, you

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Speaker 1: a simple enough thing to do. But right, be an intermittent.

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Speaker 1: Intermittent a great word, you know that's like and when

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Speaker 1: So finally I said, all right, you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: just it is what it is. So it turns out

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Speaker 1: find more on their website. I believe it's launched tech

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Speaker 1: USA dot com. Doug, I appreciate the call. Let me

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Speaker 1: know what fixes the super who I'm running any of

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Speaker 1: Criminals in this world and he ron Ananian, ron Ananian,

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Speaker 1: ron Ananian, why do I feel like I'm gonna Hanna

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Speaker 1: Barberra cart Tom from your sixties? Holy smokes? So I

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Speaker 1: So you know, the closer we're getting the Christmas A

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Speaker 1: williams Port with some questions about an Infinity G thirty seven. Yes, sir, Don,

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Speaker 1: how can I help? What do you mind? Has the

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Speaker 1: I thought I would just give you a call. Your

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Speaker 1: at high speed operation. Chances are everything being equal, Chances

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Speaker 1: are the dealerships right, they just haven't taken the time

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Speaker 1: drive the car. If the car legitimately has low oil pressure.

426
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: Guess what corrodon wire is notwithstanding you know, um, it's

427
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: you're done now. You know certain cars, certain Nissans, certain mileage,

428
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: certain years. Some of this was under warranty, some of

429
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: it was under a quiet recall. I don't think it's

430
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 1: going to be applicable to him. It's a two thousand nine,

431
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: it's probably too old. But you know, the other argument

432
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: could be has the dealer been doing the maintenance on

433
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: this card that he buy it used? Or what's that story?

434
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: The dealers to spend on the maintenance on it and

435
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: for some reason the uh, the battery actually went dead

436
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: and they gave him brand new battery and trying getting

437
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: to go for the rest of the three thousand dollars.

438
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I need to talk to somebody first, you know, isn't

439
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: isn't the argument here? Then? So if he's been following

440
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: manifest and you know, here we go, all right, here's

441
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: the oil change question, folks. If if he's been following

442
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: manufacturer recommended specifications, if he's been changing the oil as

443
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: per the manufacturer and doing all the other maintenance, how

444
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: can they possibly convince him that at a hundred thousand miles,

445
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: which is a half life on these cars today, he

446
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: now has to have major engine repair and it's on him.

447
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: Isn't this really kind of their fault? Isn't this you

448
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: would think? Isn't this a design flaw? Isn't this because

449
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: somebody got paid way too much money with no common

450
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: sense between the rears to put an engine together that

451
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: at a hundred thousand miles and needs three thousand dollars

452
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: worth of repairs. Yes, and it's also follows several years

453
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: of this engine it or not right? Oh yeah, this

454
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: this the gas gets failing on the internal plates under

455
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: the chains on Nissan's We're talking about a system and

456
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: a setup that spans twenty years. It's not like it's

457
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: there for you know, one or two years and they said, Okay,

458
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: we screwed up, We're gonna do it. No, No, they

459
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: were stupid for like a long time. All right. They

460
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: did this for a twenty year span or longer. So

461
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, I would go back and hit him with

462
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: that argument. If I followed all your recommendations and I

463
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: did all your maintenance, why am I having Why do

464
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: I have to spend three thousand? I mean, don't I

465
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: get something for being a loyal, valued customer? Right? Do

466
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: you want to hear the funny part? If he if

467
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't wanna do the three thousand dollar deal, then

468
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: go find a motor out of a junkyard they told him,

469
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: and have that put in right and it you know,

470
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: look at the common sense. You know what? And I

471
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: say this in all sincerity done. I just had this

472
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: conversation with someone yesterday about this in the shop to

473
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: me customers in order repair. You're you're divided into two categories.

474
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: You're one or the other. You either want to be

475
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: a name or you want to be a number. If

476
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: you want to be a number, it's it's like you're

477
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: standing at the Delhi counter and now serving number seven.

478
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: If you want to be a name, it's hide. Don,

479
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to our automotive. How can I help you today? Yeah,

480
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: you know what, Don, the manufacturer says this, But I

481
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: think in your application, here's how we should really be

482
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: working on your car, and here's the things we can

483
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: do to cut down on the odds. And clearly when

484
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: that happened two years ago or whenever this started, I'm sure.

485
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's been taking it into the dealership in

486
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the past two years, right, So for two years they've

487
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: been dogging this about let's fix an oil leak a

488
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: major This is like your heart's pumping blood out the

489
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: left side of your chest. Don't worry about it. I

490
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: got my thumb in the hall. I can fix this.

491
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. It shows

492
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: how how it shows how unqualified some people are to

493
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: be in this business, and they shouldn't be doing it.

494
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: They should sell their tools and become a plumber. So

495
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: all you give him the argument, Let's let's see what

496
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: they say, all right, sir, Yes, okay, you take good

497
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: care of Donny. Be safe. I'm not on any of

498
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, and I'll be back right after this

499
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: taking welcome back on any of the car Doctor. Let's

500
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: roll over and talk to Richard in Waddington, New York.

501
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I believe that is some questions about gasoline and ethanol

502
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: and things like that. There, Richard, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir,

503
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: how can I help? Thanks for taking my call. Ron,

504
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. I've got fourteen cars and uh

505
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: ever since esthanol was introduced and what year was that,

506
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: do you know? Uh? Well, let's see, ethanol came in

507
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: as part of the clean Air Package, the Clean Air

508
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Act in nineteen I think it was two thousand, No

509
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: to Clean Air Act. It's been around about twenty years now,

510
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: is what I remember. The problems I'm having are ethanol

511
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: cars are stored, okay for a year and have ethanol

512
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: gas in the carburetor will turn to some kind of

513
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: brown compound, like a brown crud. The inside of the

514
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: carburetor plugs throughout the idol jets and uh so I

515
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: found when you're going to store something for any amount

516
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: of time, run that carburetor dry draining, bone dry cleaner

517
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: act of m. Sorry I had I had a brain

518
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: missed there. Yeah, so let's see ethanol. Ethanol has been

519
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: around thirty years or coming up on it right. Uh, yes,

520
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: they've increased it for centerge. Yeah, yeah, they've changed it. Sure, Yeah,

521
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: absolutely there's e t um but yeah, you're right. If

522
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna store anything, Listen, I've taken two when I

523
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: store my snowblower because you know what worse than the cars,

524
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: the one that really gets beat up with the little

525
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: engines because the size of the jets and all. And

526
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: I will run all my snowblowers down to zero where

527
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: there's just nothing left in the tank. And and I

528
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: have very few problems as a result. Uh huh, Well,

529
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: I have a dirt bike and that carburetor that's after

530
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: two years, and that carburetor was full of that brown crud.

531
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: And I've put it right into a water bath for

532
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and that plane water does all that stuff, Beau,

533
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: And you know who I hear also has problems which

534
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: you don't have firsthand experience. I don't see a lot

535
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: of boats at our automotive because you know, we're kind

536
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: of land locked. But um, I hear the marine. The

537
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: marine mechanics are always complaining because of what ethanol does

538
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: to the boats, and proper storage over the winter becomes

539
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: a real issue that it has to be done. Um,

540
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: so are coming out with fuel injection now, so that

541
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: gets that bycass is a problem. But ethanol, ethanol is

542
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: a problem. And you know, I still remember the instructor,

543
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: it's got to be nine ten years ago now going

544
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: to class and talking about dirt and contaminant and fuel systems,

545
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: and I said, where we getting this from? And he says,

546
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: we're putting in the tank it Back then it was

547
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: three dollars and fifty cents a gallon because nobody was

548
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: running for political office. But uh, you know, um, you know,

549
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: it's an issue. It's it's it's clearly an issue. And

550
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: all right, here's here's another main problem with it. If

551
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you this is aside from carbureators, any car that you

552
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: store for two years and forget about which I did,

553
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: the intake vowels will jam up, so open and they'll

554
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: stay open. So you when you turn the starter or

555
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: you here is a worrying noise, you know, and hopefully

556
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: anything like a motor in hopefully it's not an interference motor.

557
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question, Richard, before

558
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: I let you go. What are some of the cars

559
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: in your fourteen car fleet? And are you adopting I no, No,

560
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: cars have a way of coming here and never leaving.

561
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. You know, it's an issue. But anyway,

562
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I've got to eighty one Selicas, which is the best

563
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: year for Selica. I've got a seventy seventh fastback Selica

564
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and eighty convertible Selicas put out by Griffiths, one of

565
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: those rare convertibles. Uh. And then I've got a seventy

566
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: one for to Conoline Dan. And then I added a

567
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: few Civics. I got five of those, added them about

568
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: ten years ago, those nine, because those are the best

569
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: year Pacific. They'll get up to fifty miles a gallon.

570
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: And and what are you doing with these? You're just

571
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: they're just they're just sitting and not going anyone. Just

572
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: sit there and look at me, all I look at them,

573
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: and you know they're like lawn decorations. What else can

574
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: they do? You know, I got fourteen cars and one driver,

575
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: but I transfer a plate, so I got each one

576
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: of them on the road every year. And then I

577
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: have a hundred acres so I can drive them around

578
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: the field. I don't have to register them, right and uh,

579
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: and they're all pretty happy. You know, they're all running

580
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: this late this summer. I got them all running, and

581
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: you're doing your thing. And listen, God bless you man.

582
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. The deal, but um, fourteen cars,

583
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: so very cool, Richard. Listen, you have yourself a good

584
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: holiday season. And I want to thank you for being

585
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: part of the car Doctor family. And um, stay well

586
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: up there in upstate New York. Okay, thanks very much, Ron,

587
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: take care of You're very welcome. I'm runing anting the

588
00:32:47,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: car Doctor, and I'll be back right after this. Welcome

589
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: back the Car Docker. As we're kind of winding things

590
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: down this hour, but we got another hour coming up

591
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: right after this one, so stay tuned. Let's go over

592
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: to Glenn in Wisconsin with Escaped Glenn. I got about

593
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: two minutes. What's going on? Oh, I've got a Ford

594
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: escape for the welve thing. It's got twenty seven toes

595
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: and miles. I don't know, it's got a foot feed.

596
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: If I'd relate it to an old car and say

597
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: it's the car was sloppy linkage that when you step

598
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: on the gas and it doesn't do it all the time,

599
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: but if you slow down for a sharp corner, and

600
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: like in town, it's it's like there's a hesitation between

601
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: you're stepping on the foot feed and the and the

602
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: uh something getting to the getting to the carburetor or

603
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: whatever is it a is it is it a shutter

604
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: or is it a delay? No, it's more of a delay.

605
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: So it's like you you step on the pedal and

606
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: it just sits there for well it's a mill a second. Okay,

607
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, it isn't real bad, but it's irritating because

608
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't do it all the time. And the dealership

609
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: guys drove it around the block, you know, and I said, well,

610
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna feel probably nothing driving around the block.

611
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: When they didn't. They just said, well, maybe it's just

612
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: something that's uh related idiosyncrasy or something like that. Well,

613
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, and and the problem is, I mean, listen

614
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: part of my conversation with you is always going to

615
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: be anytime we start talking about a newer vehicle with

616
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: an intermittent fault, you know, and hopefully the dealership has

617
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: done this is to make sure that it's updated to

618
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: the latest software calibration, you know, make sure that to me,

619
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: not at the dealership, right. And I don't know if

620
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: I told him that or if it was later on,

621
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: but well, you you would hope you would think that

622
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: they would, you know, they would they would address that.

623
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the reason I asked you is it a

624
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: delay or a shutter is because for example, there's a

625
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: bulletin out there fifteen days seven that talks about fifteen

626
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: sixteen escapes with an engagement shutter and and part of

627
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: the fixes to reprogram the PCM. So software is critical

628
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: today we're driving giant computers. I say it all the time.

629
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: The other thing is, before I let you go real quick,

630
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: can you get another fifteen from the dealership and driving?

631
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Does it behave with the same characteristic and that you know,

632
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: if the dealership is willing to let you do that,

633
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: that would be the um Well, that might be the

634
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: difference between getting a customer aggravated or realizing it isn't

635
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: euiosyncrasy of the vehicle and it's is what the vehicle does.

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Speaker 1: Not that that makes it any better, but try that.

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Speaker 1: Let me know what happens. I'm kind of curious. I'm

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Speaker 1: on any of the car Doctor mechanics aren't expensive. The

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Speaker 1: priceless see she star