WEBVTT - Maxx Crosby on Being a “High Motor” Guy, Embodying the Raider Way (ENCORE) 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.240 What's up, people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.600 another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.200 as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.159 to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.439 the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But Hey, 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.400 don't worry though, I got you. New episodes coming your 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.759 way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.080 in between time, let's rewind and play back some of 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.320 my favorite interviews from season one. To kick things off, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.800 I'm bringing you to your quarterback's worst nightmare. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:35.640 That's right. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.959 I'm bringing you my guy, Raiders defensive end Max Crosby. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.640 That's right, Mad Max in the building. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.320 Hey, welcome Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.279 I'm sitting here as Off the Edge with Cam Joy 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.360 because I'm a defensive end. Off the Edge saying, if 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.720 we're gonna talk about more than just me bringing my 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.160 guy Max Crosby. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.839 Were talking about dog underrated still somehow bro Pressure King. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.800 I met him, this was rookie year Max Crosby after 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.640 the season at an NFL Honors show, sitting next to him. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.959 Really got to talk to my guy and he became 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.080 my dog. We sort of have similar agents. We have 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.039 agents on the same team. It's like we're on the 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.640 same side. We wrote the amount of defensive end talks. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.240 We have just the respect I have for a guy 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.200 like you, Max. It speaks volumes. I mean, you're at 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.800 forty sacks. Forty sacks change being in the league for 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.600 a few years. But that being said, Bro, you've been here. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.440 Like they said, the NFL is not for a long time, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.199 but a good time. Bro, you have made the most 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.200 out of these five years. Bro, have been going crazy, 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.920 not only from stat wise, but all pro Pro Bowl 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.120 player leader on the on the Raiders, they call you 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.560 Mad Max, not just your rapper name. You're off the 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.480 edge defensive line persona. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:55.720 Bro. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.800 I appreciate you for tapping in with me. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.440 Bro, No, I appreciate you, Bro. You know the goes 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.040 both ways. You've been an og for me since day one. So, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.120 like you said, we got a ton of connections, all 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.080 the same people in the same circle. We know all 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.040 the same people from Vaughn you know, working at his 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.160 camps and on and on and on and on. So 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.600 I appreciate you, Bro, and in your career, and you 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.440 know I don't say this about many people but like 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.240 there's a lot of guys you know, from like you 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.239 and Vn. Y'all set the you know, the platform and 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.920 the blueprint for how to do it, and uh, you 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.160 give me a ton of inspirations. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.960 So just being here is an honor, BRO. So I 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.120 appreciate you perfect. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:32.280 Bro. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:33.200 I appreciate it. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:33.440 Bro. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:34.880 I just want to like, I'm gonna open it up 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.960 because I talk about it a lot, this idea that 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.840 there's defensive ends and there's edge rushers. And you just 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.120 brought up me and Vaughn same draft class twenty eleven 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.320 Von edge rusher, me defensive end. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.600 where are you sitting this convo? Because they they plugged 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.000 all of us together now outside linebacker qute unquote, your jacks, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.000 your wills are sometimes now edge rushers, and I'm like, oh, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.160 you can't do what I do. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.560 Yeah, No, I feel that, you know honestly, like you said, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.000 like they try to just like put everybody into that 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.240 edge category. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.560 But I think you're right. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.560 You know, at the end of the day, the edge 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.040 position is it comes in so many different ways, you know, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.440 shapes and sizes. So that's what I think is the 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.920 most special position, because you could have a guy who's 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.000 five ten, two sixty and can rush the hell out 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.520 of the pass or in set and edge. But then 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.160 you could have a six six dude that's you know, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.320 Tom lanky that can still get the job done, but 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.239 in a different way. So you know, for me, I 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.600 don't you know, I don't like to put anybody in 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.800 the box, you know, for me, like I said, like, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.160 I want to be the best all around defensive end 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.400 from pass rushers, stop in the run. I play, you 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.160 know how, I'm like you, I play every freaking snap 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.760 Like That's how I how I carry myself. So like 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.400 I don't want to be just known as a pass 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.280 rusher or just a run stopping guy, Like I want 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.240 to be the best overall. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.520 So that's you know, that's how I look at it. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:49.880 It got to be the best overall. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:50.080 Bro. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.000 Like, but I'm here to like, don't get a twist, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.520 I'm here to play this run first. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.320 Yeah yeah, one hundred. Bro. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.560 Wait, what do you prefer a four eye, which is 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.320 you know that inside shaded a tackle, or do you 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.440 prefer that five which the outside say the tackle or 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.000 even a nine? 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.400 Oh yeah, no, I'll leave the you know, I'll leave 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.720 the four eye a year. But for me, you know 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.240 I'm playing. I like playing in a five or six 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.000 or seven nine technique. You know that's me. I like 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.200 being on an edge at all times, no question. You 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.000 know you got you're weighing like too eighty. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.560 I don't. I'm like two sixty, you know what I mean. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.240 I don't need to be in that four, but I'll 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.599 do it. You know I've done it right. I prefer 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:27.480 to be on the edge. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.360 At a high level push on. We all have our preferences. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:29.520 Me. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.800 I mean, I really want to be a six syde, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.600 Like if I could line up inside of a tight end. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.040 Yeah, I'm really I'm really putting hands on a tight end. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.360 Like that's when I'm like, I'm trying to choke somebody out, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:39.839 like and I get that rage and me I'm like, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.560 yeah him, I gotta get him. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.880 Oh, bro, I played the four I too, Like it's 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.000 it is what it is. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.839 This is a different mindset, bro. When you think about 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.000 first second down, then I think about third down, Like 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.480 that's where like that's how I attack the lines, right, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.720 I'm not thinking like hey, pass play pass play, unless 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.720 unless like office line is given hints or you know, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.200 like a formation like four outs is is typically a 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.360 pass play. Like I'm thinking, like, all right, back off set, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.640 he coming my way, and I like, I got that smile. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:05.040 On me, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.839 I'm like, I'm like, Yo, they coming my way. Let's 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.320 do this stutter punch, whatever it is, let's ride. When 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.880 you think about what it takes to be a defensive end, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.320 have you ever thought about, like the characteristics what it takes. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.040 Not just it's like, oh, you gotta be long, you 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.719 gotta be tall, because you've seen Jerry Jerry Hughes do it. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.960 You've seen Nick Perry do it, You've seen Tevon Thibodeau. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.560 Whatever it is. What do you think is the characteristics 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:26.800 of a good defensive end? 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:27.200 You know? 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.440 I think you know the characteristics you gotta have, like 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.680 you talked about, is having that dog mentality. I think 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.840 that's what separates, you know, the good players and the 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.800 great players. And like you said, you can go to 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.159 an NFL combine, guys can run a four to four 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.400 look like the biggest Leonidas on the planet. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.520 But once you put pads on, you're like, like, what 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.440 the is this? You know? Sorry, yeah, you can't bro 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.680 like yeah, but like you see it all the. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.920 Time, like Tarzan, but he played like Jane like that's 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.240 a real that's a real silicon because you be like, bro, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.479 he looked, he looked like he major and get it 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:56.960 there be mad. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.480 He'll be like that don't make no sense. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.560 It doesn't make sense. But that's what you know when 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.400 you talk about mentality. They got to have that dog 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.640 in them, Like that's something you can't determine by looking 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.760 at somebody at a combine Like that really comes from 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.640 watching the film on somebody. I feel like that's the 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.320 most important thing. You got to watch film and see 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.280 who's willing to put their nose in it, you know, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.640 and freaking go ahead, you know it's bull rush, have 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.920 all the mixture of combinations, but be relentless at the 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.159 same time chasing the ball, flying to the ball. I 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.240 think the things that require no talent or the most 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.160 important thing to play the edge position, the. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.039 Other shit on top of it. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.440 Obviously, we're all NFL players, so you got to have 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.520 the ability to rush and bend and do all those things. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.080 But I think the most important thing is just having 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.360 that relentless you know, I'm not gonna stop nobody's gonna outplay, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.640 you know, outwork me during the game. I think that's 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.360 what you know, separates, you know, the great players from 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:42.000 the good ones. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:42.520 Man. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:43.200 Facts. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.679 Do you think sometimes like the way I talk crap 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.640 on like y'all you know I talk crap the way 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.920 you talk crap on the field, The passion, the love 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.600 that we have for the game, Like it feels like 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.920 when we win, like that's how you're supposed to play 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.800 the game. But when we lose, like that's when you 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.800 feel like media sort of like the attack you like, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.240 oh you have to be that Like what do you me? 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:01.760 Like, this is who I am as a monster bro? 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.120 Like, do you feel like sometimes your passion as a 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.920 competitor gets misconstrued by other people? 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.160 Yeah, let that affect you. No, I don't let it 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.920 affect me. I'm always gonna be me. You know. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.840 I definitely take some you know, I feel like more 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.720 recently in the past year, I've taken a lot of 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.440 heat just from like you know, they released the quarterback 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.400 thing where they see me like going after my homes 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.760 and talking messing with them and like. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:24.920 Everyone's like, oh my god, he's an asshole. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.880 He's a jerk, and then they see me, like they 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.560 released a micd up and I was like, I took 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.840 our tight end like twenty yards off the ball and 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.320 just body slammed them just to set the tone. And 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.720 like they're like this dude's an asshole, But like I 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.000 love that because that's who I am. Like it's not 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.040 they're just getting to see it now, but like that's 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.080 who I am as a player. My mentality is like 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:44.960 I don't care who's in front of me. I'm gonna talk. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.040 I'm gonna try to get in their head and I'm 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.600 gonna try to make them feel less than what they are. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:51.960 You know, they might be a good player, I want 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.120 to make them feel average. So that's what I started 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.360 to play to play basis. So if they don't like it, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:57.800 that's not my problem, right. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.120 Somebody brought that up to late Is Max like that. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.760 I was like Max, Dude, I was like, yeah, he 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.200 supposed to be like that, Like what do you What 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.400 do you want me to do? You want me to 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:04.640 be like. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.440 The Andrew luck of a defensive end, Like. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.640 He's just like, hey, i'll see you next time. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.640 Yeah, I can't do that, bro, I'm gonna be one 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.800 hundred percent me if you don't like it, you don't 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.240 like it. But the people that love me, they love 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.560 me for that. So it's like that love me, you know, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:18.840 that's all that matters to me. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:20.200 I don't get it. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.920 You think we're all friends, Like I'm not supposed to 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.680 Like the officer lineman I'm going against. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.520 I think he's that slow, and I think he can't 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:26.040 mess with me. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.320 That's the reason why I'm on the edge. And he's 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.280 he's in his position that he's in. He's like he's 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.000 a kid that grew up eating Hella candy and snacks 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:40.000 at middle of the night, played Fortnite duty, you know. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.280 You know, drinking a coke, sitting. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.280 There absolutely and he says and he says things like 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.080 I'm athletic, are you? Because you're the only one telling 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.240 yourself that you're athletic, you know, Like you're not supposed 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.680 to be friends, bro, Like, I don't get it. Like, 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.720 you know, when we talked to Vaughan this past year 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.480 and Bonn was like, man, you know, I like to 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.079 I like to get to know him, the officer the line, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.240 and I'll be going against a guy and I'll be like, hey, man, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:00.800 how's your date? 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.920 Oh man? Man, I saw you had kids. How's your kids? Man, 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:05.600 I ain't never asked none of that. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.320 See for me, No, that's funny you say that because 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.080 like there's like majority of the time like I'm gonna 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.000 be on that with whoever it is, like just to 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.480 get myself going, like there's some guy like I feel 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.000 like it's different, you know when it comes to the 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.520 old lineman, Like there's some old lineman who like even 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.679 a Garret Bowles for instance, Like my first couple of 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.160 years in the league, like me and him a match 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.760 up twice a year, and like we were going like 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.760 we were damn near fighting every play and we're talking 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:31.960 and going at it, going at it. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.559 And then like by the end of. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.360 My second year, we played each other for like the 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.160 fourth time, and he started walking across the field like 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.720 we were getting personal, like this was going there. I'm like, 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.240 all right, I'm ready to fight. I already know what 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.960 it is about to be. And he walked up to 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.079 me and I'm like this after the game, we're fighting 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.560 right now. And he's like, Bro, I love you. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:49.800 Bro. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.160 I'm gonna just say that, like I respect the guy 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:53.760 to you. He was like at the end of the day, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.640 he was like, you're you bring it more than anybody. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.360 Like he just had a lot of good shit to say, bro, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.880 But like that's for me, that was the cool ast moment. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.839 So like every time I see him now like he 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.240 did sees me, he's like, love you, bro, and then 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:11.760 it's I mean it's like so like yeah, so every 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.920 you know, every situation is different, and uh, you know 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.000 it is what it is. But for me, like I'm 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.000 always trying to find that edge, whether it's you know, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.560 talking or whatever I gotta do to get that man. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.319 I mean, but that competitive that's what makes you like great. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:26.760 Like I don't, like I said, I don't want to 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.679 like you. I don't want to I can like you 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.120 outside the lines. In between these lines, you are an obstacle, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.480 your speed bump, your literally your job is literally to 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.720 stop me from getting to where I'm trying to go. Yeah, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.120 like if you if I'm trying to get out the 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.640 gated community, guess I get to get out to get 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.240 out of there, like the speed bump, and guess what 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.600 that off my names, that's speed bump. So hey, man, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.199 break the thing now. Man, I'm trying to get in there, bro. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.520 But but that's what it sort of takes for me 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.200 to get to the process. For you, you bro, you 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.240 worked all the way through. So the leadership that you 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.600 have now the locker rooms in a good place between 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.199 you guys like Davante Adams. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.280 Tell me that leadership process, especially for a guy like. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.120 You know, Davonte who had to come in and be 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.240 cultivated to the to the Raiders style of play or 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.840 bring his culture on to you. That leadership between you 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.640 and him, because I see it on the field. I 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.960 see he chirps, you chirp your defense, your office response. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.160 When you guys like talking like that. Leadership qualities that 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.640 you guys have to me, tell me a little bit 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:16.480 about that in locker room. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.760 Yeah, no doubt. You know, uh, you know, you nail 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.440 the raid on the head. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:19.559 You know. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.920 DeVante he's you know, he's like, I think this is 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:24.640 tenth year. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:25.600 You know, he's close to you. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.040 He's been in the league for a long time now, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.880 and he the dude is elite at what he does. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.520 And at the same time, he brings that energy no 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.679 matter if his practice or game day, and he's always 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.480 doing extra. So when you have a guy that's the first, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.200 you know, three years in a row First Seam all 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.680 Pro and he's also one of your artist workers. Like 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.600 there's nothing you could say, so, like, guys are going 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.839 to naturally follow. And that's why I work the way 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.840 I work, you know what I mean. I'm always I'm 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.040 staying on guy's ass, especially the young guys. Like I 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.079 make people uncomfortable sometimes and I try to push them 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.160 out of their comfort zone. But like for me, you know, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.560 I've it's taking years to earn that right and like 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.080 for not you know, now, that's what leaderships all about. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.320 It is, I want to bring the guys with me. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.160 I want them you know, they might not get up 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.360 to my level right out the gate, but it's gonna 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.160 take time. And if they can go from here to here, 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.160 then I've done my job. And if I can bring 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.840 all the guys with me, that's that's what. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.079 I can do. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.960 So like that's how I push it, bro, Like, yeah, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.440 I just want to make you know, everybody's different, you know. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.360 And I learned this from coach Marionelli too. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.160 He told me, He's like, you know, what makes a 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.400 coach great is uh, you know, being able to adapt 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.120 to all your different players because certain you know, every 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.800 guy's different. Certain players tick a certain way. Some guys, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.280 you know, need to get mother sometimes and that's how 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.760 they get going. And some guys you got to be 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.240 nice to them and then that's so it's like I 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.559 try to learn and really know who my guys are 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.200 as people, and we do d line dinners every week, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.040 Like they'll come to the house, I'll have chefs come 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.000 and we'll you know, just kick it and like do 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.400 stuff like that so I can really learn who the 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.319 person is. Because you can't go and mother somebody and 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:57.440 you don't even know what their child's name is. Yeah, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.959 that's that's a problem. Like you, I don't want to 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.360 you know, I'm not going to listen to that. But 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.920 if I have a real relationship with them, then you know, then. 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:05.240 There's a reason. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.200 Like he's receptive because it's like, Bro, he cares about 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.720 me as person and he wants me to be the best. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:09.000 Version of me. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.440 And that's that's how I lead. And our locker rooms great. Bro. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.079 I love the guys and we have a lot of 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.440 good people and a lot of hard workers. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:17.880 So yeah, we just got to you. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:31.319 Know, keep rolling and get this thing on board. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.000 When it comes down to it, clearly you've earned the love, respect, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.679 and accolades that you've gotten and earned it each and 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.400 every step of the way. Bro, the way you play 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.280 has been phenomenal, the way you get out the stacks, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.959 and like, I'll be like, yo that you have to 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.240 get out the stacks. I'm like, Bro, you think you 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.160 could be all prob without getting out the stacks. But Bro, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.120 you watch you watch Max. He's mad Max on Sundays, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.840 He's going crazy. You're chasing things down, You're running things down. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.160 And now we got your former quarterback, Derek Carr. He 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.520 talks so highly of you. He's like, Bro, you might 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.120 be the only person that runs just as much as 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.880 as Max does after practices or whatever. It is like, Bro, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.560 I always see running, He's always running. I'm like absolutely. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.200 I was like, dude's a doll for a reason. He 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.480 earns it. But that being said, Bro, it's also put 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.480 you in a spot to what were you this year 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.880 on ESPN seventeen? 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:16.800 Yeah? Seven? 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.280 Does that motivate you at all? Does that affect you 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:20.760 at all? Like for me, I'll be like, bro, it's 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.720 just another year. Like there's years when I was like, oh, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.160 I know I'm top twenty and been number ninety nine, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.280 and there's years that I've all right, like I probably 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.800 saw that might be bottom fifty this year and been 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.320 as high as like thirty something. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.440 It just depends. But does it affect you or motivate you? 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.240 Honestly, it motivates me. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.880 Like for me, I don't like having anybody have anything 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.560 like over me if I you know what I mean, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.840 if I'm first impressors and first and TFLs and like 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.760 there's always going to be something that I'm trying to 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.840 find that somebody has over me, and like that's it 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.080 will bother me until I get back out there and 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.320 try to get closer to that. So like I use 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.840 things like that as motivation, you know, more than anything. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 And like that's just like how my mind works. I'm 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.280 ultracompetitive no matter what I'm doing, and like, yeah, I 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.800 want to be the number one player, Like I was 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.080 ranked seventeenth, you know, by my peers as a player 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.040 in the NFL. Like just thinking about that, you know, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.440 five years ago, if you'd have told me I'm in 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.680 the top twenty like in the league and that's in 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.600 the world, Like that's crazy. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:13.240 But at the end of the. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.400 Day, like now where I'm at, like there's always more, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.400 And like I got that from coach Marinelli, Like he 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.520 texted me damn near every single day to this day. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.360