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Speaker 1: What's up, people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with

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Speaker 1: another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now

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Speaker 1: as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had

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Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't worry though, I got you. New episodes coming your

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Speaker 1: way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: in between time, let's rewind and play back some of

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Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one. To kick things off,

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing you to your quarterback's worst nightmare.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing you my guy, Raiders defensive end Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Mad Max in the building.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome Off the Edge with Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here as Off the Edge with Cam Joy

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Speaker 1: because I'm a defensive end. Off the Edge saying, if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about more than just me bringing my

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Speaker 1: guy Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: Were talking about dog underrated still somehow bro Pressure King.

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Speaker 1: I met him, this was rookie year Max Crosby after

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Speaker 1: the season at an NFL Honors show, sitting next to him.

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Speaker 1: Really got to talk to my guy and he became

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Speaker 1: my dog. We sort of have similar agents. We have

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Speaker 1: agents on the same team. It's like we're on the

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Speaker 1: same side. We wrote the amount of defensive end talks.

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Speaker 1: We have just the respect I have for a guy

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Speaker 1: like you, Max. It speaks volumes. I mean, you're at

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Speaker 1: forty sacks. Forty sacks change being in the league for

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Speaker 1: a few years. But that being said, Bro, you've been here.

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Speaker 1: Like they said, the NFL is not for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but a good time. Bro, you have made the most

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Speaker 1: out of these five years. Bro, have been going crazy,

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Speaker 1: not only from stat wise, but all pro Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: player leader on the on the Raiders, they call you

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Speaker 1: Mad Max, not just your rapper name. You're off the

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Speaker 1: edge defensive line persona.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you for tapping in with me.

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Speaker 4: Bro, No, I appreciate you, Bro. You know the goes

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Speaker 4: both ways. You've been an og for me since day one. So,

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Speaker 4: like you said, we got a ton of connections, all

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Speaker 4: the same people in the same circle. We know all

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Speaker 4: the same people from Vaughn you know, working at his

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Speaker 4: camps and on and on and on and on. So

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Bro, and in your career, and you

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Speaker 4: know I don't say this about many people but like

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys you know, from like you

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Speaker 4: and Vn. Y'all set the you know, the platform and

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Speaker 4: the blueprint for how to do it, and uh, you

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Speaker 4: give me a ton of inspirations.

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Speaker 3: So just being here is an honor, BRO. So I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you perfect.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I just want to like, I'm gonna open it up

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Speaker 1: because I talk about it a lot, this idea that

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Speaker 1: there's defensive ends and there's edge rushers. And you just

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Speaker 1: brought up me and Vaughn same draft class twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: Von edge rusher, me defensive end. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: where are you sitting this convo? Because they they plugged

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Speaker 1: all of us together now outside linebacker qute unquote, your jacks,

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Speaker 1: your wills are sometimes now edge rushers, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't do what I do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I feel that, you know honestly, like you said,

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Speaker 4: like they try to just like put everybody into that

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Speaker 3: But I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, the edge

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Speaker 4: position is it comes in so many different ways, you know,

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Speaker 4: most special position, because you could have a guy who's

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Speaker 4: five ten, two sixty and can rush the hell out

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Speaker 4: of the pass or in set and edge. But then

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Speaker 4: you could have a six six dude that's you know,

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Speaker 4: don't you know, I don't like to put anybody in

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Speaker 4: I want to be the best all around defensive end

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Speaker 4: from pass rushers, stop in the run. I play, you

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Speaker 4: know how, I'm like you, I play every freaking snap

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Speaker 4: Like That's how I how I carry myself. So like

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be just known as a pass

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Speaker 4: to be the best overall.

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Speaker 3: So that's you know, that's how I look at it.

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Speaker 2: It got to be the best overall.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like, but I'm here to like, don't get a twist,

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Speaker 1: I'm here to play this run first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, one hundred. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what do you prefer a four eye, which is

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Speaker 1: you know that inside shaded a tackle, or do you

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I'll leave the you know, I'll leave

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Speaker 4: the four eye a year. But for me, you know

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Speaker 4: I'm playing. I like playing in a five or six

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Speaker 4: or seven nine technique. You know that's me. I like

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Speaker 4: being on an edge at all times, no question. You

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Speaker 4: know you got you're weighing like too eighty.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm like two sixty, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to be in that four, but I'll

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Speaker 3: do it. You know I've done it right. I prefer

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Speaker 3: to be on the edge.

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Speaker 2: At a high level push on. We all have our preferences.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really want to be a six syde,

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Speaker 1: Like if I could line up inside of a tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really I'm really putting hands on a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Like that's when I'm like, I'm trying to choke somebody out,

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Speaker 1: like and I get that rage and me I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Oh, bro, I played the four I too, Like it's

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Speaker 2: it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: This is a different mindset, bro. When you think about

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Speaker 1: that's where like that's how I attack the lines, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not thinking like hey, pass play pass play, unless

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Speaker 1: he coming my way, and I like, I got that smile.

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Speaker 2: On me, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, Yo, they coming my way. Let's

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Speaker 1: do this stutter punch, whatever it is, let's ride. When

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Speaker 1: you think about what it takes to be a defensive end,

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Speaker 1: have you ever thought about, like the characteristics what it takes.

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Speaker 1: Not just it's like, oh, you gotta be long, you

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Speaker 1: You've seen Nick Perry do it, You've seen Tevon Thibodeau.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is. What do you think is the characteristics

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: I think you know the characteristics you gotta have, like

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Speaker 4: you talked about, is having that dog mentality. I think

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Speaker 4: that's what separates, you know, the good players and the

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Speaker 4: great players. And like you said, you can go to

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Speaker 4: an NFL combine, guys can run a four to four

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Speaker 3: But once you put pads on, you're like, like, what

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Speaker 3: the is this? You know? Sorry, yeah, you can't bro

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Speaker 3: like yeah, but like you see it all the.

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Speaker 1: Time, like Tarzan, but he played like Jane like that's

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Speaker 1: a real that's a real silicon because you be like, bro,

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Speaker 1: he looked, he looked like he major and get it

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Speaker 2: He'll be like that don't make no sense.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense. But that's what you know when

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Speaker 4: you talk about mentality. They got to have that dog

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Speaker 4: watching the film on somebody. I feel like that's the

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Speaker 4: who's willing to put their nose in it, you know,

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Speaker 4: and freaking go ahead, you know it's bull rush, have

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Speaker 4: all the mixture of combinations, but be relentless at the

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Speaker 4: same time chasing the ball, flying to the ball. I

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Speaker 4: think the things that require no talent or the most

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Speaker 3: Other shit on top of it.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, we're all NFL players, so you got to have

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Speaker 4: the ability to rush and bend and do all those things.

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Speaker 4: But I think the most important thing is just having

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Speaker 4: that relentless you know, I'm not gonna stop nobody's gonna outplay,

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Speaker 4: you know, outwork me during the game. I think that's

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Speaker 4: what you know, separates, you know, the great players from

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Facts.

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Speaker 1: Do you think sometimes like the way I talk crap

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Speaker 1: on like y'all you know I talk crap the way

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Speaker 1: oh you have to be that Like what do you me?

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Speaker 2: Like, this is who I am as a monster bro?

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Speaker 1: Like, do you feel like sometimes your passion as a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let that affect you. No, I don't let it

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Speaker 4: I definitely take some you know, I feel like more

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Speaker 4: recently in the past year, I've taken a lot of

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Speaker 4: heat just from like you know, they released the quarterback

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Speaker 4: thing where they see me like going after my homes

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Speaker 4: and talking messing with them and like.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh my god, he's an asshole.

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Speaker 4: He's a jerk, and then they see me, like they

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Speaker 4: released a micd up and I was like, I took

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Speaker 4: like they're like this dude's an asshole, But like I

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Speaker 4: love that because that's who I am. Like it's not

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Speaker 4: they're just getting to see it now, but like that's

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Speaker 4: who I am as a player. My mentality is like

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Speaker 4: I don't care who's in front of me. I'm gonna talk.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to get in their head and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna try to make them feel less than what they are.

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Speaker 4: You know, they might be a good player, I want

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Speaker 4: to make them feel average. So that's what I started

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Speaker 4: to play to play basis. So if they don't like it,

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Speaker 4: that's not my problem, right.

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Speaker 1: Somebody brought that up to late Is Max like that.

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Speaker 1: I was like Max, Dude, I was like, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: supposed to be like that, Like what do you What

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Speaker 1: do you want me to do? You want me to

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Speaker 1: be like.

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Speaker 2: The Andrew luck of a defensive end, Like.

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Speaker 3: He's just like, hey, i'll see you next time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't do that, bro, I'm gonna be one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent me if you don't like it, you don't

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Speaker 4: like it. But the people that love me, they love

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Speaker 4: me for that. So it's like that love me, you know,

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Speaker 4: that's all that matters to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that competitive that's what makes you like great.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't, like I said, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: But but that's what it sort of takes for me

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Speaker 1: When you guys like talking like that. Leadership qualities that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. You know, uh, you know, you nail

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Speaker 4: DeVante he's you know, he's like, I think this is

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Speaker 4: He's been in the league for a long time now,

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Speaker 4: And at the same time, he brings that energy no

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Speaker 4: It is, I want to bring the guys with me.

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Speaker 4: So like that's how I push it, bro, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's that's a problem. Like you, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: There's a reason.

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Speaker 1: Like he's receptive because it's like, Bro, he cares about

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Speaker 3: And that's that's how I lead. And our locker rooms great. Bro.

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Speaker 4: I love the guys and we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: When it comes down to it, clearly you've earned the love, respect,

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Speaker 1: every step of the way. Bro, the way you play

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Speaker 2: It just depends. But does it affect you or motivate you?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it motivates me.

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Speaker 4: Like for me, I don't like having anybody have anything

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Speaker 4: if I'm first impressors and first and TFLs and like

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Speaker 4: Like I could have a good game, i could have

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Speaker 1: That mentality has changed, bro, even in the last what

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Speaker 2: what do you like?

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Speaker 1: It all comes around, Bro, If you're getting pressures, that

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Speaker 1: means you' getting closer as long as you as long

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00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,800
Speaker 1: as I don't even remember the whole conversation, I was like, Bro,

436
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,600
Speaker 1: as long as you're hunting, Like eventually, if you keep

437
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,600
Speaker 1: stabbing at it, you're going to draw blood.

438
00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

439
00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,000
Speaker 1: You took off after that, Bro, But like, does that

440
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,960
Speaker 1: that competitive edge you have, that chippy wheel? Does that

441
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160
Speaker 1: also come from not saying smaller school, but like you

442
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,880
Speaker 1: going in the you know, middle of the draft, that

443
00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,160
Speaker 1: that fourth round draft pick? Is that an extra added

444
00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,480
Speaker 1: mentality from like I didn't come from nothing, but like

445
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,040
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't respect me the way they were

446
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,600
Speaker 1: supposed to.

447
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I always I've always felt like I've

448
00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,240
Speaker 4: been slept on, and I feel like I've always had

449
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,360
Speaker 4: to go above and beyond to like prove my worth.

450
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 4: I know, it's a part of my journey, you know,

451
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,639
Speaker 4: like being you know, I've been with the Raiders. You know,

452
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,439
Speaker 4: we've had you know, three out of four years they

453
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,000
Speaker 4: have made the playoffs, and it's been a struggle. Like

454
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,159
Speaker 4: I was a fourth round pick, I had one offer

455
00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520
Speaker 4: coming out of high school. Like I've always had to

456
00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,000
Speaker 4: go above and beyond and do what I do. But

457
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,159
Speaker 4: it's like that's what makes me who I am, and

458
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760
Speaker 4: like I love it. I wouldn't change it for anything.

459
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 4: And like it is hard because I feel like, you know,

460
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,880
Speaker 4: I don't always have the greatest, you know.

461
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,040
Speaker 3: Deck of cards.

462
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,600
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, that's what makes

463
00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 4: me who I am because I've always found a way,

464
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,040
Speaker 4: Like I've never I never quit, Like no matter if

465
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,119
Speaker 4: I start something, I'm gonna finish it. And that's how

466
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,520
Speaker 4: I approach every single day. So like I love when

467
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,360
Speaker 4: people doubt me. I love and they tell me, oh,

468
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,399
Speaker 4: he's not like even last year, like I thought I

469
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,879
Speaker 4: should have been an All Pro. Like that's I thought about

470
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 4: that all year and like you know when he played

471
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,280
Speaker 4: lineman and like you have a good game and they'll

472
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,960
Speaker 4: come out and be like, oh he got locked up,

473
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 4: he didn't get a sack, blah blah blah blah blah,

474
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 4: and then they'll show too clips and you're getting blocked

475
00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,240
Speaker 4: and like you kill them the rest of the time. Like, Bro,

476
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,200
Speaker 4: that's sit mind. Like I don't want anybody to have

477
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 4: anything or anything. So like that's what it is for me. Bro,

478
00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,640
Speaker 4: It's every single day, like I'm just I'm just competitive shit,

479
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,199
Speaker 4: Like it don't matter if I'm playing two k, if

480
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,879
Speaker 4: I'm hanging in the back talking with the guys, like

481
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. I don't want anybody to have anything

482
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,400
Speaker 4: over me. And like that's that's what pushed me every

483
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 4: single day.

484
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 1: That's that's that one when you go gets office a

485
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,280
Speaker 1: lineman and you've beating him outside inside, through and you're

486
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: coming right there at the quarterback. Bro, Like I'm like

487
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,120
Speaker 1: there was there was times this last two games I'm

488
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 1: just like literally filling the lace on the ball and

489
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: being launched and I'm like, oh, the techle played good

490
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,920
Speaker 1: against you. Yeah, you're like, you're like, bro, like it

491
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 1: was me, Like I didn't get there, but you know

492
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,199
Speaker 1: that's on me, it's not him. He didn't stop me

493
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 1: either way. It was a quick, quick release whatever it was. Like,

494
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 1: But do you think some of that is like instinct

495
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 1: verse technique? Like yo, like you when you're looking at

496
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 1: your film for your spin move in that quarterback stepping

497
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,959
Speaker 1: up and you have a hand on the shoulder and

498
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 1: he slips out of there. I know you've talked about

499
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 1: stretch of flexibility, grip strength, Like what what do you

500
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,120
Speaker 1: think it is to finish in those plays?

501
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a combination.

502
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta have, Like I think that's you know,

503
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 4: differs between a pressure, like you can get pressures. You

504
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 4: know they count hurries and you know president they're all combined.

505
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, if the ball's gone in two seconds

506
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 4: and you're beating them in one and a half, like

507
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 4: you can't do anything about that, but you're winning the rush,

508
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 4: Like that's what it really comes down to. If you're

509
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 4: winning a high percentage of rushes and you have natural

510
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 4: football instincts, you're reading your keys, you're playing with pad

511
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 4: level you're working that you work in practice, like the

512
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 4: guys that me and you like, Bro, we've been pro bowlers.

513
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 4: Like we trust our moves and we think we know

514
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 4: they're gonna work if we trust them and do them

515
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,439
Speaker 4: the right way, and our pad levels right and our

516
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 4: eyes are right and our cell is right, like all

517
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 4: that matters. So like for me going into the game,

518
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm trusting that process, like I'm gonna break down the film.

519
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see what I can do better from the

520
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 4: week before, and like I'm gonna start looking at my opponent.

521
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: How can I beat this guy? How can I dissect them?

522
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 4: And like for me, it's not just like you know

523
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 4: when you talk about like finishing, that's finishing. Just you know,

524
00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 4: every little detail matters. And like I talk about from

525
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 4: practice to the weight room, like the grip strength thing,

526
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 4: like I do grip after every workout now, like I've

527
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 4: done it for years now, just because that extra grab

528
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: and like.

529
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 3: Wait, which which one?

530
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Which one do you do? Do you have?

531
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: Do you have like the hand machines or do you

532
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 1: like I do my grip strength where like I hold

533
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 1: I hold the forty five pounds?

534
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 3: What is it?

535
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: Twenty two kilo weights and I do that for time

536
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 1: or then, like I started a couple of years ago,

537
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: our d line coach introduced like flipping these things. Now

538
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 1: I'm like flipping and catching, like I'm like on a Thursday,

539
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like flipping.

540
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: Catching these forty five pound weights.

541
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Speaker 1: Just like in those weeks that you don't have you

542
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: be like, all right, all right, what's because I do

543
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: have my finger? Not an excuse, but like gotta go,

544
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: just back to hole.

545
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: What would be your favorite grip strength exercise?

546
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: Would you say?

547
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say my favorite, Like we do a

548
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 4: ton ton of different ones, Like today we had like

549
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 4: the fat grippers on, which are hard as hell, and

550
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 4: you deal with kettlebells and like you can't fully grip

551
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 4: and you're just shaking.

552
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't know about this. What do you wait? Wait, explain,

553
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 2: I got you.

554
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is different.

555
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: But I was kettle with like thirty five forty pounds.

556
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 4: No, you get like it's sixty I'll say sixty pounds kettlebell.

557
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 4: You do like you do like sessions, so you do

558
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: like thirty seconds with it with it and then twenty

559
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 4: seconds with a heavier weight, and then you do like

560
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 4: towel holes, so you wrap it around the kettlebell and

561
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 4: you hold with the towel and it's heavy, Like.

562
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 3: Bro, I got it. I got some for You'll say.

563
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 4: Bro, my god, I'm wanting to learn. I like, I'm

564
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: telling you Rick Slate my guy in here in the train.

565
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 4: He's one of my He's like the main guy works

566
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 4: out with me. He's my puts me through every workout.

567
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: That dude, don't you don't start working out, bro, he's

568
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 3: an og. Bro, he's an og and he gets the right.

569
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: You're going through prison workouts, yall workouts?

570
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: What he has me screaming, like cussing him out. I'm

571
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: so mad. It hurts so bad, but it pays off

572
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: in the end.

573
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, bro, Like you surprised me. What

574
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: was that this pass Pro Bowl?

575
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: We were talking like, Bro, I'm working out here every

576
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: day still, like like there is no shut down for

577
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: me in the off season.

578
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: Is there a shutdown period? When do you recoup the bod?

579
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: Like for me, I have to like I gotta get

580
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: away fam like I disappear for like.

581
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: A like yeah, no work it out, no Rarnie, like.

582
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: I gotta eat, love my family love me.

583
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: We're not in football season. I'm not necessarily like the greatest.

584
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the greatest dad, husband, brother, anything.

585
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, it's Thursday, so Thursday through Sunday, I'm

586
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: locking the hell in, Like I don't even like to

587
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: do media by Wednesday is Friday, Like, don't ask me.

588
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: Saturday, I am so locked in. I'm like, I got

589
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: things I have to do on Sunday. I'm not a

590
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: good person. Sunday I'm coming with bad intentions.

591
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: When do you get away and become you know, like daddy, Max,

592
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: thank you, gotta love you.

593
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, honestly, bro, Like this was after my third

594
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: year and fourth year. Like I know, it was after

595
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: my second year and third year. I would start after

596
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl That's when I would start training. And

597
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: this year, you know, we didn't make the playoffs, and

598
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 4: you know, I talked to my strength coach, I talked

599
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: to my nutrition's all this, and he was like, hey,

600
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 4: we're gonna start January thirtieth this year, and this is

601
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 4: why we're going to ease, you know, ease into the process.

602
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: Boo boom, boom boom. He broke it down to me.

603
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, I have a team of people that all,

604
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: you know, collaborate and communicate here with the Raiders.

605
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: So it was great, and I started.

606
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: To hear your own team of people.

607
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: Hey I'm here. I'm here by myself. You know what

608
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

609
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 4: When you when you hear about yourself, you get everybody,

610
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: you get all the resources. So yeah, you know, we

611
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: started January thirtieth, and so yeah, I took like two

612
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 4: and a half weeks off and I was back rolling,

613
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: but I was still meal prepping even after the season,

614
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: and like, I always want to stay in shape. And

615
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 4: no matter what I hate, there's nothing worse than going

616
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: and put eating like sh for two weeks and you

617
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: have to drop weight and then you're just wasting weeks

618
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: of work. And you know time you can improved by

619
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: trying to cut weight and then get back into shape.

620
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: So like, for me, I want to be in shape

621
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: all year round. So like that's how that's how it

622
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 4: is for me. It's really it's really all year round.

623
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Man, I said, that's what it takes.

624
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 4: Bro.

625
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: Like if that's if that's what Joe vibe is, that's

626
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: crazy work to me because I'm like, yo, I gotta

627
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: get away, like I'm eating, I'm eating.

628
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: Like that little facire, bro, like I got.

629
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: To eat well, We'll say well and come back.

630
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: I'm like every week I'm eating good in the off season,

631
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: I will say that my Saturdays, I'm getting my cheat meal,

632
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm getting Chipotle for lunch. I'm gonna eat something for dinner.

633
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: But like, besides that, you know that.

634
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 1: One day a week cheating no, no off season like

635
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: a month, maam, Like you know you know this off

636
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: seat I went to. I went to Spain for two

637
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and a half months. Oh, I start working out tonight

638
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: like last month and a half. That first month I

639
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: was there.

640
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: I needed all of it.

641
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, big, I bet a harmon, the big big steaks.

642
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: What I need all of it. I was like, yo,

643
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: run that twice. My kids are looking at me like

644
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Daddy's fluffy.

645
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah he is, damn right, man.

646
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: I worked hard to be fluffy. And then I'm gonna

647
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: get back right.

648
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: All right, three quick questions I get you out of here, bro,

649
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: I said, twenty five minutes.

650
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: He gone over twenty five minutes. Yeah, hey, bro, what's

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Speaker 2: your favorite cheapt meal?

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Speaker 3: Favorite cheat meal?

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me you what Chipotle got?

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, I was gonna see that's just

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Speaker 4: so easy for me to say it, but I would

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Speaker 4: say this and like this is my prison, like if

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Speaker 4: I was in prison, Like they're like you have one

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Speaker 4: meal left. I'm getting chicken, Fried's, steagle, mashed potatoes, cream cord, gravy,

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Speaker 4: all that.

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Speaker 3: Like straight murders, murders.

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Speaker 2: Favor favorite other edge rusher, edge rusher to watch.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 2: That, there's a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say.

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Speaker 2: Take take, take Jordans.

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Speaker 1: And you you're going t j okay, okay, to a

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Speaker 1: little what all right?

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Speaker 2: And then now I'm not gonna do this to you.

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Speaker 3: Favorite teammate, favorite teammate. I got a lot.

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Speaker 4: I love them all, but I'm gonna have to say.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Devanteta my guy. We're like that's my brother.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, last last question. Favorite tattoo. When you're done,

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Speaker 2: favorite tattoo.

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Speaker 3: You got this.

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Speaker 2: When I first met you, you had a little bit. Now

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Speaker 2: you've got this.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, my daughter. I got my daughter right here.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, holding down for Ella, no question.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate you, bro, You you you monster bro. You

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Speaker 1: becoming a legend of the game, and like, keep on pushing,

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Speaker 1: keep on pressing. I appreciate you tapping in with me, Broth.

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Speaker 1: We'll text later, Bro, but I appreciate you for getting that.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Bro, your legend.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say a huge thank you to

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Speaker 1: all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've got

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Speaker 1: a whole locker room full of my favorite interviews from

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Speaker 1: season one coming your way.

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Speaker 1: Til next time, I'm out.