Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1: We are here to recap a different episode something we've
Speaker 1: really never talked about on this podcast, which is Bachelor Pad,
Speaker 1: which came out before Bachelor in Paradise, and we're kind
Speaker 1: of doing this because we're getting ready for Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1: But Bachelor Pad Season three, episode one was just released
Speaker 1: on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel, so we watched it and
Speaker 1: we're going to recap that shit show right now.
Speaker 3: If you are not familiar with Bachelor Pad, because it's
Speaker 3: been what like fifteen years since Bachelor Pad was a thing,
Speaker 3: there's a couple seasons of it. It took place in
Speaker 3: the Bachelor Mansion, similar style to Paradise, where it was
Speaker 3: like co ed guys and girls, but it was a
Speaker 3: mix of dating and a competition show, so there's different pairs,
Speaker 3: there's competitions like physical challenges that you have to win
Speaker 3: and then compete for to get different advantages, and then
Speaker 3: the goal at the end was to both hopefully find
Speaker 3: a relationship, but even more so to win the cash prize,
Speaker 3: which was I believe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: this season correct.
Speaker 1: So one thing that so obviously Bachelor Pett evolved into
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, which watching bacheler Pet, the first thing
Speaker 1: that was kind of like I didn't love was that
Speaker 1: they were in the mansion. Still, I like the aesthetic
Speaker 1: of like a beach in paradise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I love the mansion. I think it's so iconic.
Speaker 3: But I think what people forget is on the regular
Speaker 3: seasons of The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, you only see
Speaker 3: so much of the mansion. It's really just like where
Speaker 3: the girls and guys are hanging out and sleeping and
Speaker 3: getting date cards, and then you're out and about like
Speaker 3: you're on dates with the lead, and then after week
Speaker 3: four you're traveling, so like it's not as much as
Speaker 3: it's an iconic symbol. It's really just like a big
Speaker 3: part of night one, and then after that you're not
Speaker 3: seeing that much of it, seeing a whole season in
Speaker 3: the mansion. I think that a setting like a beach
Speaker 3: in paradise, like Cabo Costa, Rica is a way better
Speaker 3: fit for like a full time show. I agree the
Speaker 3: flow of the house. It's also like it's a little dark,
Speaker 3: like it's got like that like Spanish influence to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a little like it's just it's a
Speaker 1: little small. Yeah, so too, you know, And it's not
Speaker 1: small obviously for like a family to live there, but
Speaker 1: it's like to have.
Speaker 3: Like a cast of thirty people film me there twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven. I would actually be curious to know
Speaker 3: if they were like having challenges with that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure, yeah, sure, so we The first
Speaker 1: thing we're kind of introduced to is you get the
Speaker 1: cast that are they're all coming back, and you have
Speaker 1: people like who we know, like Chris Pokowski is kind
Speaker 1: of the only one that we personally know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Pukowski, who's been on like the most Bachelor
Speaker 3: shows ever. Yeah, you're probably familiar with him. He was
Speaker 3: on Pair Nice a few times. He came from Emily
Speaker 3: Maynard season and he's now with Anna Redmond. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: everyone else I was not as familiar with. I mean,
Speaker 3: we know Chris personally, I don't know any of the
Speaker 3: other cast members, but all from seasons. Just to give
Speaker 3: you a little context, Deanna, Jillian, Harris Ashley, and Emily
Speaker 3: Maynard seasons of the Bacherette and then Ben Flanagan, Brad
Speaker 3: and Lorenzo's seasons of the Bachelor is what we're pulling
Speaker 3: some pulling from. So we're going like very old school
Speaker 3: but like kind of like the height of Bachelor stiff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say those the people that make seasons.
Speaker 1: I would assume that the people that were on this
Speaker 1: season were the most were the fan favorites of their
Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Bacherette definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, Ed was engaged to Jillian
Speaker 3: Harris and it didn't work out, and he's like a
Speaker 3: main character in this.
Speaker 1: TV because the guy's just getting wasted running around naked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't get to see that stuff anymore totally.
Speaker 3: And then we have Kaylin, who was on Emily Maynard's season.
Speaker 3: He was kind of the villain. He called her daughter
Speaker 3: baggage and he's like like.
Speaker 1: That, Like that's the thing about like now everyone is
Speaker 1: so media trained and social media trained that you will
Speaker 1: never see that. Yeah, but like it it's a reminder
Speaker 1: of how like funny and raw reality TV was, yeh
Speaker 1: be because people were just fucking talking crazy shit.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like even this first episode, I couldn't believe
Speaker 3: I could believe what they were saying, but I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe they were saying it on Bachelor Pad, a show
Speaker 3: that has like millions of viewers.
Speaker 1: Attacks on like people's just looks.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was constant, just their physical appearance coming for
Speaker 3: one another. And I mean, you know they're referencing, Like
Speaker 3: you guys have to remember that are listening, Like they're
Speaker 3: referencing the tabloids, like that was where things were happening.
Speaker 3: There was no social media. So it's like nowadays, you
Speaker 3: say something on the show that people don't like, you're
Speaker 3: getting attacked in your DMS. They have this direct access
Speaker 3: to you. They're picking apart your character, they're picking apart
Speaker 3: everything that you have said, whether they like it or
Speaker 3: don't like it. There was no direct access unless you
Speaker 3: like ran into these people on the street. So like
Speaker 3: you have these people that are villains, you know, like
Speaker 3: Blakely talks about like how she wasn't very like like Kaylin.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, like I called her daughter baggage, and
Speaker 3: like I'm standing ten toes down on what I said
Speaker 3: and like I'm down to be controversial and not liked
Speaker 3: because like it was just way less of a risk
Speaker 3: back then. I really think like social media has elevated
Speaker 3: and like decreased the entertainment.
Speaker 2: Of reality television.
Speaker 3: Like watching this, I was like, wow, like you would
Speaker 3: just like Sarafina called Zoe's dress super short and like
Speaker 3: we all were up in arms. The stuff people are
Speaker 3: saying about each other on this show doesn't even come
Speaker 3: close to.
Speaker 2: That, Like, it is way more below the ball.
Speaker 1: This is this is the ship talking that contestants getting
Speaker 1: their dm dms from people that watch the show, they
Speaker 1: will get this kind of shit said to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different from like, you know, someone in
Speaker 3: the house versus like hundreds of strangers who are like
Speaker 3: taking it way too far.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think it's funny because like yeah, like
Speaker 1: like that comment from Sarah Fina and I was like,
Speaker 1: how could you say that? It's like fucking a ton
Speaker 1: of people watching this at home, we're saying shit like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people are saying it on the comfort of
Speaker 3: their couch. But then we've got we've got this Bachelor
Speaker 3: padcast being like you're ugly and I hate you and
Speaker 3: you're stupid and your dress is hideous?
Speaker 2: How could she wear that?
Speaker 3: It's disgusting because ugly and like just like direct comments
Speaker 3: on like these people.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Jacquline walked up to.
Speaker 2: Blakely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David Jaffin walked up to David by the pools, like,
Speaker 1: you're to vote me out? I just want to let
Speaker 1: you know you're a loser and you're ugly.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, it's so crazy about I love it.
Speaker 1: Then the second thing they introduced to us is they
Speaker 1: are bringing fans of Bachelor onto Bachelor Pad to compete,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. Also, the show has to remind us
Speaker 1: a million times that, like, the fans love watching the
Speaker 1: Bachelor and that they're on the Bachelor. It's like this,
Speaker 1: I don't know why the show feels the need to
Speaker 1: plug their own show during their show. On a consistent,
Speaker 1: fucking basis, everybody is on watching the Bachelor. You don't
Speaker 1: have to remind us that there's fans of the fucking show.
Speaker 3: And they call them the fans like that, Like we're
Speaker 3: not saying that, Like they call them the fans.
Speaker 2: They call themselves like we are the fans. Like it's
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 3: Contestants and then the fans, even though the fans are competing.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of funny because they've cast people that
Speaker 3: are obviously good looking, like they look like they could
Speaker 3: be on the show, but they're casting people that they
Speaker 3: know specifically. These girls are that are gonna like not
Speaker 3: keep their cool, like they're not gonna come in and
Speaker 3: like act like they've been here before. Like they're coming
Speaker 3: in and they're like fanning out over Chris Harrison. They're
Speaker 3: asking for selfies, like they are not acting like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're all here as contestants, like we're all here together,
Speaker 3: like they're coming and being like, oh my god, this
Speaker 3: is my dream.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's a very distinct line between like who
Speaker 3: the fans and who the contestants are.
Speaker 1: Definitely, but I also think that was.
Speaker 3: Push Oh yeah, I'm sure it was encouraged, like this
Speaker 3: is so exciting, you know, we want to see that
Speaker 3: you're a fan of this show, like don't be afraid
Speaker 3: to like show that. Whereas like if a girl on
Speaker 3: Night one did that, like you're gone, You're home, You're
Speaker 3: going home immediately, if you walk up to the Bachelor
Speaker 3: and you like start fanning out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, interesting, interesting element to bring fans on,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much an immediate like Okay, there are
Speaker 1: people from the show the contestants from prior seasons, and
Speaker 1: then there's the fans. We are going to x out
Speaker 1: the fans, like immediately you're on, Like I think it's
Speaker 1: like Chris Pucoski's like, you're on our show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's us against them. This girl Rachel is like enough,
Speaker 3: I don't want them here. And I mean they've made
Speaker 3: it so like there's way more like there's triple the
Speaker 3: amount of contestants than there are fans. There's only five
Speaker 3: of the fans, so like they've made it very easy.
Speaker 3: If the contestants want to pick them off, they can.
Speaker 3: And I think even I think it was Rachel who said,
Speaker 3: like you didn't get your heartbroken on national television, Like
Speaker 3: you didn't have to go through and we had to
Speaker 3: go through to be here, like almost the sense of
Speaker 3: like there's an initiation process that you got to skip
Speaker 3: and like that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very funny. So I kind of I guess,
Speaker 1: like my but I like issue with it. If I
Speaker 1: were to say I had an issue, is I kind
Speaker 1: of like if I want to watch a competition show,
Speaker 1: I want to watch a competition show, and if I
Speaker 1: want to watch a show about people falling in love.
Speaker 1: I want to watch a show about people falling in
Speaker 1: love the hybrid of both of those. As of now,
Speaker 1: just watching episode one is like a little confusing because
Speaker 1: I'm like still like what are we?
Speaker 2: What are we? Is the question? Like what is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What am I watching? And it's kind of hard,
Speaker 1: like I don't even know. I yet to know, Like
Speaker 1: how do you even win? The two? Like I get
Speaker 1: that there's competitions.
Speaker 3: Well, Like for those listening, the structure from episode one
Speaker 3: that's presented is you pair up. You just pick your partner,
Speaker 3: like it doesn't even have to be on like if
Speaker 3: you're interested in them romantically, you pick a partner. I
Speaker 3: think it's you know, girls and guys obviously, and then
Speaker 3: there's this competition that happens where they have like these.
Speaker 2: Hanging big hearts.
Speaker 3: So we're like still on the theme of love, and
Speaker 3: you and your partner have to fit into the heart
Speaker 3: and they like tilt them and make it difficult for
Speaker 3: you to stay in it, and the person that stays
Speaker 3: in the longest wins and you're safe from elimination. So
Speaker 3: very like traditional competition structure, like similar to like a
Speaker 3: survivor a big brother.
Speaker 2: I think that they needed to. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think they're having a like in episode one, like
Speaker 3: it's hard to dictate, like is this like the challenge
Speaker 3: where like it's a competition show, but like you also
Speaker 3: know that people are going to end up poking up
Speaker 3: and getting together just like naturally by having you know,
Speaker 3: a bunch of heterosexual men and women in the house together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what they're going for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like we're not so it's not.
Speaker 3: So like I would say it's competition show first, dating
Speaker 3: show second. Yeah, but they're filtering in this kind of
Speaker 3: like dating theme by making like the guys and girls
Speaker 3: partner up and pick their partner and doing like the
Speaker 3: love themed competition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not we're not showcasing on this show.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that they're going to be focusing or
Speaker 1: showcasing a love story. If anything. They want to see
Speaker 1: like people hooking up. Yeah, and arguments from that I'm
Speaker 1: assuming from like like we're already seeing it with crys
Speaker 1: Pokowski and his partner and he's talking to another girl
Speaker 1: and his partner is upset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Bukowski ends up with Blakelee as a partner
Speaker 3: and then like that night, like very soon after he
Speaker 3: is chatting with this girl Jamie, they're making out, Blakely's
Speaker 3: piss like we're in an immediate love triangle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, why is Blakely pissed? Well, she's
Speaker 1: saying she's pissed because she wants to win the money.
Speaker 1: But I would assume she's pissed because maybe she thoughtge thing.
Speaker 1: But like that's the thing. You don't you can't like
Speaker 1: some of it, Like you can't really tell at least
Speaker 1: from episode one, And I think that's my gripe.
Speaker 2: Your gripe with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think like let's say, okay, so we
Speaker 3: look at like The Challenge, which is a competition reality
Speaker 3: show that has like a lot of romantic sideplots, and
Speaker 3: then we look get something like leve Island, which is
Speaker 3: a romantic dating reality show with competition side plots. And
Speaker 3: I think that Bachelor Pad in this first episode hasn't
Speaker 3: exactly figured out which one it is yet, like what
Speaker 3: is the focus the competition or the dating?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe there is when because there was seasons
Speaker 1: prior to this, so maybe like people do know, we're
Speaker 1: just we just.
Speaker 2: Don't probably just yeah, we're just dummies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also we should add that, you know, these
Speaker 3: two fans who partnered up David, and then there's twins
Speaker 3: on this who are acting as one person, which I
Speaker 3: just can't with twins.
Speaker 1: And everyone the house seems to be really annoyed by
Speaker 1: the twins.
Speaker 2: They don't like the twins Eric and Brittany, which makes.
Speaker 1: Sense because watching episode one, they come across a little alike.
Speaker 3: Well, they're already in a disadvantage because they're fans, not contestants,
Speaker 3: and then they're saying like, hey, we're one person, Like no,
Speaker 3: you're not your two adult, grown women, Like.
Speaker 1: Well, but that's but that's also they're being Yeah the.
Speaker 3: Show, they've been cast as one person, but yeah, they're
Speaker 3: not coming across great David. Eric and Brittany win that
Speaker 3: first competition, and their reward, other than being safe, is
Speaker 3: they get to go on a date. So I guess
Speaker 3: if you're like, if you're partnered with someone and it's
Speaker 3: starting to turn into a romance, it's like that additional
Speaker 3: incentive like, oh, we'd love to win because we want
Speaker 3: to be safe, but also then we get to leave
Speaker 3: the house and go on a date together.
Speaker 1: So what's going to happen when you and your partner win,
Speaker 1: but you're cooking up with somebody else so that you
Speaker 1: go on a romantic date with your partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, that's kind of like another element
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, I mean I think you just keep
Speaker 3: it friendly and you just talk game strategy instead of
Speaker 3: getting romantic. But yeah, no, there's definitely like a lot
Speaker 3: of potential jealousy that could occur here. I mean we're
Speaker 3: already seeing it with Chris and Blakely.
Speaker 1: Did you find anyone or did you see anyone on
Speaker 1: this first episode that like you were rooting for, because
Speaker 1: that was one thing also that I kind of noticed
Speaker 1: is Yeah, I would say the Bachelor and The Bachelor
Speaker 1: and even Bachelor in Paradise they kind of like they
Speaker 1: kind of like showcase like a hero on episode one
Speaker 1: or somebody that like the fans are gonna like, well, they're.
Speaker 3: Telling you, like they're giving you clues of like these
Speaker 3: are the one or two people that are safe, like
Speaker 3: you can like them, like they're they're good, and then
Speaker 3: you know you've got like.
Speaker 2: The chaotic evil yea of like these.
Speaker 3: Are maybe the villains, but maybe we like them a
Speaker 3: little bit, like we've got the Kaitlin of it all,
Speaker 3: who's like kind of a little out of the control,
Speaker 3: but like he's entertaining. Or Erica Rose, Like Erica Rose
Speaker 3: and Kaylin are in this feud because Erica Rose went
Speaker 3: to the tabloids about Kaylin and like spoke badly about him.
Speaker 1: They're both great, Like they're great immediately them, Like you
Speaker 1: cannot kick one of those two people off from now.
Speaker 3: Erica Rose almost gets sent home. So almost got sent home,
Speaker 3: and it was like, no, you cannot lose her. She's
Speaker 3: doing so much, she's so entertaining.
Speaker 1: I would say, Michael Michael got the.
Speaker 2: Editor, Yeah, Michael Stagliano.
Speaker 1: Of like everyone's gonna like this guy.
Speaker 3: Well, and he has been on Bachelor before. He's the
Speaker 3: only like return he won it, so he's kind of
Speaker 3: like you're following him through episode one is like Okay,
Speaker 3: he knows what he's doing, he's done this before. And
Speaker 3: also like everyone seems to really like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they should kick him off.
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Okay, so something we got
Speaker 1: to talk about. Like Chris Harrison comes in and you know,
Speaker 1: he talks to everyone in the room, and like this
Speaker 1: guy ad from Chicago can't even sit and listen. He's
Speaker 1: so fucked up. He's jumping in and out of the pool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in like little white tidy whities.
Speaker 1: Which like there's a girl like we don't care how
Speaker 1: big your dick.
Speaker 2: Is, Like put some pants on and sober up. That
Speaker 2: was funny. I think that was Jamie.
Speaker 1: That that was a wild time for reality TV. I forget,
Speaker 1: like like I was like, all right, like like I
Speaker 1: feel socially awkward. This is intense and intimidating. I need
Speaker 1: a drink to you know, calm down. Yeah, yeah, get
Speaker 1: rid of the edge. But like I'm probably gonna like
Speaker 1: and then everyone's gonna be kind of doing well, that's.
Speaker 2: What it is. It's everyone. I mean Ed's gone above
Speaker 2: and beyond.
Speaker 3: Like everyone is clearly in their interviews by the end
Speaker 3: of the night like they're drunk, Like they are doing
Speaker 3: interviews absolutely drunk. They are sloppy, they're slurring their words.
Speaker 3: But Ed is like on another level, like he's so hammered.
Speaker 3: He's literally out in the pool. Well, Chris Heireus' is like, man,
Speaker 3: we're trying to film a scene. Like I'm trying to
Speaker 3: explain to you literally what show you're on. And like
Speaker 3: he's just not even there. I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 3: just a different time. But I also think like social
Speaker 3: media plays a role into it too. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you would see as many people because like, look,
Speaker 3: it's all young, attractive, single people that are like, I've
Speaker 3: got an open bar and a gorgeous mansion. I'm just
Speaker 3: here to have a good time. Like I'm young and
Speaker 3: I'm just like looking a party. I think social media
Speaker 3: makes people like just more conscious. I don't think I
Speaker 3: don't know if we can see as many people getting
Speaker 3: as drunk as we used to.
Speaker 1: Well. I also it also has to do with like
Speaker 1: the show, right, Like it's kind of been proven over
Speaker 1: the history of The Bachelor with social media that the
Speaker 1: contestants that do well after the show, and what I
Speaker 1: mean by do well is like you know, get a
Speaker 1: lot of like love and grow social media following. Those
Speaker 1: people are characterized on the show as very nice, either
Speaker 1: heartbroken or end up in love. Yeah, anyone that's like
Speaker 1: going on the show like for a good time to
Speaker 1: get fucked up, which is what all these people are.
Speaker 2: Doing and like shamelessly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and that's that's like the biggest difference yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of fun. Like it's so it's like
Speaker 1: refreshing after watching so many seasons of of kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also like as viewers, we watch reality because it's.
Speaker 2: Not that serious, you know, it's fun. And I mean
Speaker 2: I think Bachelor.
Speaker 3: And Bachelott definitely have more of a serious tone to them,
Speaker 3: and that's to be expected. But like Paradise, I feel
Speaker 3: like there's been a bit of a struggle of it's
Speaker 3: like Paradise is not that serious, like, yeah, you want
Speaker 3: to find love, you want to find a relationship, but
Speaker 3: it's meant to be this like fun, young, beachy show.
Speaker 3: And I think that we've kind of lost that tone
Speaker 3: of like guys, like, don't stop taking yourself so serious,
Speaker 3: Like this is meant to be fun, And it like
Speaker 3: translates as a viewer watching Paradise versus watching Bachelor Pad.
Speaker 3: Like Bachelor Pad, they're like, yeah, it is meant to
Speaker 3: be fun, Like we're literally just here to have a
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was also a different time, like, like
Speaker 1: I would say, drinking culture was totally that. This was
Speaker 1: still a time where you would go to bars in
Speaker 1: Chicago and be able to smoke cigarettes in there.
Speaker 3: What's crazy too is like nowadays, obviously it's no secret,
Speaker 3: like a lot of people from the show have other opportunities,
Speaker 3: become influencers, become entrepreneurs. These are people that had like
Speaker 3: full corporate jobs that were going to act this way
Speaker 3: on national television like just hammered swimming in the pool,
Speaker 3: getting yelled at my Chris Harrison and then go.
Speaker 2: Back to work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is a whole other thing I did
Speaker 3: even think about.
Speaker 1: I would say there was a lot of people that
Speaker 1: probably got fired weren't able to go back to work
Speaker 1: after this. Like Ad was a Chicago fireman, so it
Speaker 1: was probably he was probably like celebrated.
Speaker 2: Like you have like go like I guess it depends
Speaker 2: on like what jobs had to Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're in like banking and like finance,
Speaker 1: like you're getting fired, Yeah, you're not going back to that.
Speaker 1: If you're in you know, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery or you
Speaker 1: know you're doing that, I think you're fine. I like
Speaker 1: your example, Yeah, firemen and cosmetics, like you're good offing.
Speaker 1: Anyone's gonna fire you for that.
Speaker 3: So getting back into the competition element, they are essentially
Speaker 3: going to be voting each other out.
Speaker 2: Is the structure.
Speaker 3: Yes, so this is now based on like the contestants
Speaker 3: against the fans. They're kind of like, hey, we have
Speaker 3: more of a right to be here than you guys
Speaker 3: coming in as a fan, Like you have an easy
Speaker 3: target on your back, let's pick them off. But then
Speaker 3: we've also got David, who is one of the fans
Speaker 3: who's safe because he want the competition, is aggressively trying
Speaker 3: to vote Eric Rose.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure why was there like a specific reason.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's read so if you if you
Speaker 1: win the competition, if you you're on the team that
Speaker 1: wins the competition, you are safe, Yes, if you are
Speaker 1: if you come if you're out first, you automatically have
Speaker 1: a vote against right. So I think he saw that
Speaker 1: and instantly ran his mouth, which on any competition show,
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, you need to be
Speaker 1: under the radar, especially if you're coming in as an outcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, because so Erica Rose and her partner Nick
Speaker 3: were the first out of the competition, so they automatically
Speaker 3: had a vote against them, and I think that's where
Speaker 3: David was like, well, let's just vote them out.
Speaker 2: They already have a vote against them.
Speaker 3: The thing is it didn't work as much as you know,
Speaker 3: we had David petitioning for it, and then we had
Speaker 3: Read and Kaylin just straight up lying to Erica Rose's
Speaker 3: space and scheming behind her back, being like we're sending
Speaker 3: her homes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now, unfortunately eric Rose is still in the house
Speaker 3: and she hates David and now she's coming for him
Speaker 3: next week, which is the fun of a competition show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also feel like there was, yeah, there was there
Speaker 1: had to be an element amongst producers and even castmates
Speaker 1: of like we still want like to make good television
Speaker 1: and Erica Rose right now is our top gun, Like
Speaker 1: is she is the TV maker out of this group?
Speaker 3: She especially the girls more low key girl, she cannot
Speaker 3: n go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also like like we don't really think this
Speaker 3: is more this way that much on our show, but
Speaker 3: like I'm assuming at this time it was like if
Speaker 3: eric Carros goes home, we have to start doing shit
Speaker 3: and we have to step it up, but we have
Speaker 3: to start making TV. Why wouldn't we keep her around
Speaker 3: when she's doing so much?
Speaker 1: But I do think a lot of these people, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty easy for them to make TV because
Speaker 1: A they're drunk and be everyone really like doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to care that much, which is great. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I do really like the element. The one thing I
Speaker 1: do like is I enjoy enjoy watching like the scheming
Speaker 1: and then like, Okay, we got this person's vault, this
Speaker 1: person's well, we see.
Speaker 2: Read and Kaylin.
Speaker 1: No her name, was reading Page trying to figure out
Speaker 1: like to keep her on the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, because they were partners for the challenge, and honestly,
Speaker 3: Page is a fan. She ends up going home and
Speaker 3: Chris was the other fan. He ended up going home.
Speaker 3: But Page was really nice and I thought it was
Speaker 3: sweet that Reid was like, hey, I like her. We
Speaker 3: were in this challenge together, Like I'm gonna fight for
Speaker 3: her to stay.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the part that I love because now what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get or is you're gonna get people falling
Speaker 1: for each other, and then you're gonna get somebody that
Speaker 1: may have fallen for you who's jealous of the situation.
Speaker 1: They're gonna vote that person. So now the stakes are
Speaker 1: even higher because not only do you want to win
Speaker 1: the money, you also want your connection, yeah, to stay.
Speaker 1: And then when people start like fucking with you that way.
Speaker 3: Well, for example, we've got the love try and go
Speaker 3: with Chris, Blakelee, and Jamie going on Blakely. If I'm her,
Speaker 3: I'm gunning for Jamie now because not only is Blakely like,
Speaker 3: you're distracting my partner, it seems like she kind of
Speaker 3: has a crush on Chris and is like, well, maybe
Speaker 3: if I get Jamie out of the way, I can
Speaker 3: shoot my shot here.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think they should do? Like you
Speaker 1: have to go home as a team, Like I kind
Speaker 1: of think.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering if the partners switch up.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm wondering if they want the partners to switch up,
Speaker 3: because if you go home as a team, then it's
Speaker 3: never gonna change where I think the hope is probably
Speaker 3: like there's an opportunity for like, oh, I'm with this person,
Speaker 3: but I'm crushing on this person, so like I'm going
Speaker 3: to ditch them because they're pissing me off and go
Speaker 3: like team up with them.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of movie pieces.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of movie pieces. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: potential messiness, which I think is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like you need to watch.
Speaker 3: Like another episode or two. I feel like to like
Speaker 3: really get locked in on the format.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or give me at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 1: give me like a grid or like a bracket system
Speaker 1: of how this tournament works, Like, give me, I want
Speaker 1: that in all competition shows, like I'm want.
Speaker 3: Maybe not on the show, but like yeah, like on
Speaker 3: their website, there needs to be like a rules tab
Speaker 3: so you guys can just go and be like okay,
Speaker 3: like what But then at the same time, you know
Speaker 3: that there's going to be like twists and turns and
Speaker 3: things that they throw at them.
Speaker 1: That's fine. But if the first time I ever played Monopoly,
Speaker 1: I need to read the rules, yeah, okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: if I'm watching people play Monopoly, which would be boring.
Speaker 1: But if I decided that I want to sit there
Speaker 1: for my entertainment and watch people play Monopoly, I still
Speaker 1: need to know the rules of the game. It's going
Speaker 1: to be interesting. For like, comparing this now to what
Speaker 1: we are about to watch with Bachelor of Paradise, well.
Speaker 3: Are like theory is it's not a coincidence that Bachelor
Speaker 3: is releasing this episode and highlighting Bachelor pad on the
Speaker 3: You know, we said you can watch this episode of
Speaker 3: Bachler Pad on the Bachelor Nation YouTube, which we encourage
Speaker 3: you to do.
Speaker 2: It is a fun watch.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like timing, is a coincidence
Speaker 3: that they're releasing this and they're encouraging people to watch
Speaker 3: it kind of a month or two before Paradise comes out.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if.
Speaker 3: They're going to be bringing some of these elements back
Speaker 3: because like my questions like why now, Like why are
Speaker 3: we circling back to Bachelor Pad now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think we are. I
Speaker 1: think that's exactly what's happening. I think we're right who
Speaker 1: watching this episode one? Do you have your favorites? Like
Speaker 1: who is your favorite?
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of I mean, like taking Chris out
Speaker 3: of it because obviously we know him personally, so we're
Speaker 3: a little biased there. I mean I like Kaylin and
Speaker 3: I like Erica Rose. I just think they're both like
Speaker 3: very chaotic. They're gonna stir things up. They're like you know,
Speaker 3: people that you like love to hate, hate to love.
Speaker 1: I also like Read because he's not scared to get
Speaker 1: it done, Like he's he's going out there, he's making
Speaker 1: he's confident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's making moves. I like read too.
Speaker 3: He he's showing confidence, he's making moves, which is exactly
Speaker 3: what he just said, and I'm just repeating it, but
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I did like that girl Page who was the fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was sweet and she they they made
Speaker 1: her look really nice. It was that. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: she was actually gonna make it.
Speaker 3: But I like this Jacqueline Blakelee Dynamic. I think that's fun.
Speaker 3: I like Ed as much as he's kind of a
Speaker 3: mess and someone that like. He'll either get it together
Speaker 3: and you'll end up being like this guy's fun and
Speaker 3: I like him, or he won't and you'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's time for him to go home.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming ad was a was the biggest fan
Speaker 1: favorite on the show.
Speaker 3: Well he ended up with Gillian Harris yet, but I
Speaker 3: don't think he was a fan favorite because I believe
Speaker 3: in his package. He said that there was a bunch
Speaker 3: of rumors that he was caught out with like other girls.
Speaker 1: Well that's what he said. He's like, there was there
Speaker 1: was cheating rumors, Yeah, which like not deny on that?
Speaker 1: Did your hear?
Speaker 2: Like no, I miss that.
Speaker 3: I mean I heard the like yeah, like the cheating
Speaker 3: rumors and stuff. I didn't hear him say that, yeah,
Speaker 3: not denying.
Speaker 2: That, Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1: At the beginning, he's like, yeah, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of you read the tabloids and the tabloids when just
Speaker 1: the word tabloid just sounds I love that so.
Speaker 2: Old, I know.
Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is like it wasn't that
Speaker 3: long ago, Like it really was like fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: Think about how much things have evolved in a short
Speaker 3: period of time when it comes to like media, entertainment, news.
Speaker 1: You want to know what's even You want to know
Speaker 1: what's even crazier is when this show came out. I
Speaker 1: don't know what year it was, but there is a
Speaker 1: really good chance that the iPhone wasn't out yet, like
Speaker 1: or it might have been like early stages. It might
Speaker 1: have been like iPhone one.
Speaker 2: You might be right.
Speaker 3: Let's see what year, yeah, came out Bachelor Pad season three,
Speaker 3: twenty ten. Okay, what year was the iPhone released? Two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven? Okay, so the iPhone was out, but yeah,
Speaker 3: still still early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty crazy but entertaining episode overall. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Would you watch episode two?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I would watch episode two more joke, because I feel
Speaker 3: like they like do a good job of like lighting
Speaker 3: a few fires in episode one. You kind of have
Speaker 3: a general idea of the plot, the competition, but also
Speaker 3: there's like room to learn more, Like you leave with
Speaker 3: questions and curiosity.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was good. I feel like Bachelor Pad.
Speaker 3: Was maybe like ahead of its time, Like I feel
Speaker 3: like if they'd stuck with it and maybe just like
Speaker 3: pivoted a few.
Speaker 1: Things, I'm actually watching it, I'm actually surprised that they
Speaker 1: ever they have they ever made the change from Bachelor
Speaker 1: Pad to Paradise.
Speaker 3: Well, I could see them changing locations obviously, like we
Speaker 3: talked about in the beginning. I don't know if the
Speaker 3: mansion is like a fit for this style, but I
Speaker 3: am surprised that they cut the competition element format. And
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, Bachelor Universe is based on
Speaker 3: finding love, right, Like that's the core value, and I
Speaker 3: can understand maybe why they wanted to circle back to that.
Speaker 3: But we've always said, like there's so much opportunity for
Speaker 3: like spinoff shows within the franchise with alumni, with potential
Speaker 3: competition shows, and I feel like Bachelor Pad like there's
Speaker 3: a place for that yeah, still to this day.
Speaker 1: Well, but I also think like Bachelor and Paradise was
Speaker 1: a way for the franchise to gain successful couples, right,
Speaker 1: they have successful numbers because I think, well.
Speaker 3: And I guess that's what it went back to, is
Speaker 3: like this franchise is based off having successful, long lasting
Speaker 3: love stories and they weren't going to get that from
Speaker 3: Bachelor pat Like they needed a Paradise, which honestly has
Speaker 3: produced so many couples. So if that was their goal,
Speaker 3: like they've achieved it definitely. But then maybe we have
Speaker 3: like another show that's competition show with people that have
Speaker 3: like are already in relationship.
Speaker 1: Well I said that, I've pitched that before, where you
Speaker 1: do it a a a couple's competition show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, no one listens to me, not that I know, though,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: think that basically that's basically it. I'm assuming Veteran Nation
Speaker 1: is going to release the entire season on YouTube, so
Speaker 1: check that out. We will be watching and make sure
Speaker 1: you stay tuned the Bachelor Happy Hour because we have
Speaker 1: of new episodes, new recaps every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for listening Bye,