WEBVTT - Welcome to ‘Bachelor Pad’!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to recap a different episode something we've

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<v Speaker 1>really never talked about on this podcast, which is Bachelor Pad,

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<v Speaker 1>which came out before Bachelor in Paradise, and we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this because we're getting ready for Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bachelor Pad Season three, episode one was just released

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<v Speaker 1>on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel, so we watched it and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to recap that shit show right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are not familiar with Bachelor Pad, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>been what like fifteen years since Bachelor Pad was a thing,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a couple seasons of it. It took place in

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<v Speaker 3>the Bachelor Mansion, similar style to Paradise, where it was

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<v Speaker 3>like co ed guys and girls, but it was a

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<v Speaker 3>mix of dating and a competition show, so there's different pairs,

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<v Speaker 3>there's competitions like physical challenges that you have to win

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<v Speaker 3>and then compete for to get different advantages, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the goal at the end was to both hopefully find

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship, but even more so to win the cash prize,

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<v Speaker 3>which was I believe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>this season correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing that so obviously Bachelor Pett evolved into

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Paradise, which watching bacheler Pet, the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like I didn't love was that

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<v Speaker 1>they were in the mansion. Still, I like the aesthetic

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<v Speaker 1>of like a beach in paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I love the mansion. I think it's so iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think what people forget is on the regular

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<v Speaker 3>seasons of The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, you only see

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<v Speaker 3>so much of the mansion. It's really just like where

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<v Speaker 3>the girls and guys are hanging out and sleeping and

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<v Speaker 3>getting date cards, and then you're out and about like

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<v Speaker 3>you're on dates with the lead, and then after week

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<v Speaker 3>four you're traveling, so like it's not as much as

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<v Speaker 3>it's an iconic symbol. It's really just like a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of night one, and then after that you're not

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that much of it, seeing a whole season in

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<v Speaker 3>the mansion. I think that a setting like a beach

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<v Speaker 3>in paradise, like Cabo Costa, Rica is a way better

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<v Speaker 3>fit for like a full time show. I agree the

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<v Speaker 3>flow of the house. It's also like it's a little dark,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's got like that like Spanish influence to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just a little like it's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little small. Yeah, so too, you know, And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>small obviously for like a family to live there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a cast of thirty people film me there twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four to seven. I would actually be curious to know

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<v Speaker 3>if they were like having challenges with that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm sure, yeah, sure, so we The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing we're kind of introduced to is you get the

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<v Speaker 1>cast that are they're all coming back, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>people like who we know, like Chris Pokowski is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the only one that we personally know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris Pukowski, who's been on like the most Bachelor

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<v Speaker 3>shows ever. Yeah, you're probably familiar with him. He was

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<v Speaker 3>on Pair Nice a few times. He came from Emily

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<v Speaker 3>Maynard season and he's now with Anna Redmond. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else I was not as familiar with. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we know Chris personally, I don't know any of the

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<v Speaker 3>other cast members, but all from seasons. Just to give

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<v Speaker 3>you a little context, Deanna, Jillian, Harris Ashley, and Emily

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<v Speaker 3>Maynard seasons of the Bacherette and then Ben Flanagan, Brad

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<v Speaker 3>and Lorenzo's seasons of the Bachelor is what we're pulling

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<v Speaker 3>some pulling from. So we're going like very old school

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<v Speaker 3>but like kind of like the height of Bachelor stiff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say those the people that make seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume that the people that were on this

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<v Speaker 1>season were the most were the fan favorites of their

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<v Speaker 1>season of The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>Bacherette definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, you know, Ed was engaged to Jillian

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<v Speaker 3>Harris and it didn't work out, and he's like a

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<v Speaker 3>main character in this.

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<v Speaker 1>TV because the guy's just getting wasted running around naked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get to see that stuff anymore totally.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we have Kaylin, who was on Emily Maynard's season.

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<v Speaker 3>He was kind of the villain. He called her daughter

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<v Speaker 3>baggage and he's like like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Like that's the thing about like now everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>so media trained and social media trained that you will

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<v Speaker 1>never see that. Yeah, but like it it's a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>of how like funny and raw reality TV was, yeh

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<v Speaker 1>be because people were just fucking talking crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Like even this first episode, I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 3>I could believe what they were saying, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>believe they were saying it on Bachelor Pad, a show

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<v Speaker 3>that has like millions of viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>Attacks on like people's just looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was constant, just their physical appearance coming for

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<v Speaker 3>one another. And I mean, you know they're referencing, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you guys have to remember that are listening, Like they're

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<v Speaker 3>referencing the tabloids, like that was where things were happening.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no social media. So it's like nowadays, you

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<v Speaker 3>say something on the show that people don't like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting attacked in your DMS. They have this direct access

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<v Speaker 3>to you. They're picking apart your character, they're picking apart

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you have said, whether they like it or

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<v Speaker 3>don't like it. There was no direct access unless you

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<v Speaker 3>like ran into these people on the street. So like

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<v Speaker 3>you have these people that are villains, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>Blakely talks about like how she wasn't very like like Kaylin.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, like I called her daughter baggage, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm standing ten toes down on what I said

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<v Speaker 3>and like I'm down to be controversial and not liked

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<v Speaker 3>because like it was just way less of a risk

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<v Speaker 3>back then. I really think like social media has elevated

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<v Speaker 3>and like decreased the entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Of reality television.

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<v Speaker 3>Like watching this, I was like, wow, like you would

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<v Speaker 3>just like Sarafina called Zoe's dress super short and like

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<v Speaker 3>we all were up in arms. The stuff people are

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<v Speaker 3>saying about each other on this show doesn't even come

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<v Speaker 3>close to.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Like, it is way more below the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is the ship talking that contestants getting

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<v Speaker 1>their dm dms from people that watch the show, they

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<v Speaker 1>will get this kind of shit said to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's different from like, you know, someone in

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<v Speaker 3>the house versus like hundreds of strangers who are like

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<v Speaker 3>taking it way too far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just think it's funny because like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>like that comment from Sarah Fina and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you say that? It's like fucking a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of people watching this at home, we're saying shit like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, people are saying it on the comfort of

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<v Speaker 3>their couch. But then we've got we've got this Bachelor

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<v Speaker 3>padcast being like you're ugly and I hate you and

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<v Speaker 3>you're stupid and your dress is hideous?

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<v Speaker 2>How could she wear that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's disgusting because ugly and like just like direct comments

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<v Speaker 3>on like these people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacquline walked up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Blakely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, David Jaffin walked up to David by the pools, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're to vote me out? I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're a loser and you're ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa, whoa, it's so crazy about I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the second thing they introduced to us is they

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<v Speaker 1>are bringing fans of Bachelor onto Bachelor Pad to compete,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting. Also, the show has to remind us

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<v Speaker 1>a million times that, like, the fans love watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor and that they're on the Bachelor. It's like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why the show feels the need to

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<v Speaker 1>plug their own show during their show. On a consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking basis, everybody is on watching the Bachelor. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to remind us that there's fans of the fucking show.

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<v Speaker 3>And they call them the fans like that, Like we're

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<v Speaker 3>not saying that, Like they call them the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>They call themselves like we are the fans. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Contestants and then the fans, even though the fans are competing.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's kind of funny because they've cast people that

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<v Speaker 3>are obviously good looking, like they look like they could

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<v Speaker 3>be on the show, but they're casting people that they

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<v Speaker 3>know specifically. These girls are that are gonna like not

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<v Speaker 3>keep their cool, like they're not gonna come in and

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<v Speaker 3>like act like they've been here before. Like they're coming

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<v Speaker 3>in and they're like fanning out over Chris Harrison. They're

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<v Speaker 3>asking for selfies, like they are not acting like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're all here as contestants, like we're all here together,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're coming and being like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 3>is my dream.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, it's a very distinct line between like who

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<v Speaker 3>the fans and who the contestants are.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, but I also think that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Push Oh yeah, I'm sure it was encouraged, like this

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<v Speaker 3>is so exciting, you know, we want to see that

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<v Speaker 3>you're a fan of this show, like don't be afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to like show that. Whereas like if a girl on

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<v Speaker 3>Night one did that, like you're gone, You're home, You're

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<v Speaker 3>going home immediately, if you walk up to the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 3>and you like start fanning out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, interesting, interesting element to bring fans on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty much an immediate like Okay, there are

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<v Speaker 1>people from the show the contestants from prior seasons, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the fans. We are going to x out

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<v Speaker 1>the fans, like immediately you're on, Like I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Chris Pucoski's like, you're on our show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's us against them. This girl Rachel is like enough,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want them here. And I mean they've made

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<v Speaker 3>it so like there's way more like there's triple the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of contestants than there are fans. There's only five

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<v Speaker 3>of the fans, so like they've made it very easy.

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<v Speaker 3>If the contestants want to pick them off, they can.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think even I think it was Rachel who said,

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<v Speaker 3>like you didn't get your heartbroken on national television, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't have to go through and we had to

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<v Speaker 3>go through to be here, like almost the sense of

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<v Speaker 3>like there's an initiation process that you got to skip

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<v Speaker 3>and like that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, very funny. So I kind of I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>like my but I like issue with it. If I

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<v Speaker 1>were to say I had an issue, is I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like if I want to watch a competition show,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch a competition show, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch a show about people falling in love.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch a show about people falling in

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<v Speaker 1>love the hybrid of both of those. As of now,

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<v Speaker 1>just watching episode one is like a little confusing because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like still like what are we?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we? Is the question? Like what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What am I watching? And it's kind of hard,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't even know. I yet to know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you even win? The two? Like I get

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<v Speaker 1>that there's competitions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Like for those listening, the structure from episode one

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<v Speaker 3>that's presented is you pair up. You just pick your partner,

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<v Speaker 3>like it doesn't even have to be on like if

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<v Speaker 3>you're interested in them romantically, you pick a partner. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's you know, girls and guys obviously, and then

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<v Speaker 3>there's this competition that happens where they have like these.

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<v Speaker 2>Hanging big hearts.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're like still on the theme of love, and

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<v Speaker 3>you and your partner have to fit into the heart

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<v Speaker 3>and they like tilt them and make it difficult for

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<v Speaker 3>you to stay in it, and the person that stays

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<v Speaker 3>in the longest wins and you're safe from elimination. So

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<v Speaker 3>very like traditional competition structure, like similar to like a

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<v Speaker 3>survivor a big brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they needed to. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're having a like in episode one, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to dictate, like is this like the challenge

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<v Speaker 3>where like it's a competition show, but like you also

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<v Speaker 3>know that people are going to end up poking up

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<v Speaker 3>and getting together just like naturally by having you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of heterosexual men and women in the house together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's what they're going for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So like we're not so it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I would say it's competition show first, dating

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<v Speaker 3>show second. Yeah, but they're filtering in this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like dating theme by making like the guys and girls

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<v Speaker 3>partner up and pick their partner and doing like the

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<v Speaker 3>love themed competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we're not we're not showcasing on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that they're going to be focusing or

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<v Speaker 1>showcasing a love story. If anything. They want to see

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<v Speaker 1>like people hooking up. Yeah, and arguments from that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming from like like we're already seeing it with crys

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<v Speaker 1>Pokowski and his partner and he's talking to another girl

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<v Speaker 1>and his partner is upset.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris Bukowski ends up with Blakelee as a partner

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<v Speaker 3>and then like that night, like very soon after he

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<v Speaker 3>is chatting with this girl Jamie, they're making out, Blakely's

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<v Speaker 3>piss like we're in an immediate love triangle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like, why is Blakely pissed? Well, she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying she's pissed because she wants to win the money.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would assume she's pissed because maybe she thoughtge thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that's the thing. You don't you can't like

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<v Speaker 1>some of it, Like you can't really tell at least

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<v Speaker 1>from episode one, And I think that's my gripe.

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<v Speaker 2>Your gripe with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I think like let's say, okay, so we

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<v Speaker 3>look at like The Challenge, which is a competition reality

0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.560
<v Speaker 3>show that has like a lot of romantic sideplots, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we look get something like leve Island, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a romantic dating reality show with competition side plots. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Bachelor Pad in this first episode hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>exactly figured out which one it is yet, like what

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<v Speaker 3>is the focus the competition or the dating?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe there is when because there was seasons

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<v Speaker 1>prior to this, so maybe like people do know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't probably just yeah, we're just dummies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also we should add that, you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>two fans who partnered up David, and then there's twins

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<v Speaker 3>on this who are acting as one person, which I

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<v Speaker 3>just can't with twins.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone the house seems to be really annoyed by

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<v Speaker 1>the twins.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like the twins Eric and Brittany, which makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense because watching episode one, they come across a little alike.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're already in a disadvantage because they're fans, not contestants,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they're saying like, hey, we're one person, Like no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not your two adult, grown women, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but that's but that's also they're being Yeah the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, they've been cast as one person, but yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not coming across great David. Eric and Brittany win that

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<v Speaker 3>first competition, and their reward, other than being safe, is

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<v Speaker 3>they get to go on a date. So I guess

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<v Speaker 3>if you're like, if you're partnered with someone and it's

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<v Speaker 3>starting to turn into a romance, it's like that additional

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<v Speaker 3>incentive like, oh, we'd love to win because we want

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<v Speaker 3>to be safe, but also then we get to leave

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<v Speaker 3>the house and go on a date together.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's going to happen when you and your partner win,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're cooking up with somebody else so that you

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<v Speaker 1>go on a romantic date with your partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, that's kind of like another element

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<v Speaker 3>to it. Yeah, I mean I think you just keep

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<v Speaker 3>it friendly and you just talk game strategy instead of

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<v Speaker 3>getting romantic. But yeah, no, there's definitely like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of potential jealousy that could occur here. I mean we're

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<v Speaker 3>already seeing it with Chris and Blakely.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find anyone or did you see anyone on

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<v Speaker 1>this first episode that like you were rooting for, because

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<v Speaker 1>that was one thing also that I kind of noticed

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<v Speaker 1>is Yeah, I would say the Bachelor and The Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>and even Bachelor in Paradise they kind of like they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like showcase like a hero on episode one

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody that like the fans are gonna like, well, they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling you, like they're giving you clues of like these

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<v Speaker 3>are the one or two people that are safe, like

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<v Speaker 3>you can like them, like they're they're good, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know you've got like.

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<v Speaker 2>The chaotic evil yea of like these.

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<v Speaker 3>Are maybe the villains, but maybe we like them a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, like we've got the Kaitlin of it all,

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<v Speaker 3>who's like kind of a little out of the control,

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<v Speaker 3>but like he's entertaining. Or Erica Rose, Like Erica Rose

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<v Speaker 3>and Kaylin are in this feud because Erica Rose went

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<v Speaker 3>to the tabloids about Kaylin and like spoke badly about him.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both great, Like they're great immediately them, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot kick one of those two people off from now.

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<v Speaker 3>Erica Rose almost gets sent home. So almost got sent home,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like, no, you cannot lose her. She's

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<v Speaker 3>doing so much, she's so entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, Michael Michael got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Editor, Yeah, Michael Stagliano.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like everyone's gonna like this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and he has been on Bachelor before. He's the

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<v Speaker 3>only like return he won it, so he's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like you're following him through episode one is like Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he knows what he's doing, he's done this before. And

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<v Speaker 3>also like everyone seems to really like him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they should kick him off.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we feel about Okay, so something we got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Like Chris Harrison comes in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he talks to everyone in the room, and like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy ad from Chicago can't even sit and listen. He's

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<v Speaker 1>so fucked up. He's jumping in and out of the pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's in like little white tidy whities.

0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Which like there's a girl like we don't care how

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<v Speaker 1>big your dick.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, Like put some pants on and sober up. That

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<v Speaker 2>was funny. I think that was Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>That that was a wild time for reality TV. I forget,

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<v Speaker 1>like like I was like, all right, like like I

0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 1>feel socially awkward. This is intense and intimidating. I need

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<v Speaker 1>a drink to you know, calm down. Yeah, yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the edge. But like I'm probably gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone's gonna be kind of doing well, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is. It's everyone. I mean Ed's gone above

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>Like everyone is clearly in their interviews by the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the night like they're drunk, Like they are doing

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<v Speaker 3>interviews absolutely drunk. They are sloppy, they're slurring their words.

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<v Speaker 3>But Ed is like on another level, like he's so hammered.

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<v Speaker 3>He's literally out in the pool. Well, Chris Heireus' is like, man,

0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to film a scene. Like I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>explain to you literally what show you're on. And like

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<v Speaker 3>he's just not even there. I don't know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a different time. But I also think like social

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<v Speaker 3>media plays a role into it too. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you would see as many people because like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all young, attractive, single people that are like, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got an open bar and a gorgeous mansion. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>here to have a good time. Like I'm young and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like looking a party. I think social media

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<v Speaker 3>makes people like just more conscious. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if we can see as many people getting

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<v Speaker 3>as drunk as we used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I also it also has to do with like

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<v Speaker 1>the show, right, Like it's kind of been proven over

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the history of The Bachelor with social media that the

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<v Speaker 1>contestants that do well after the show, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by do well is like you know, get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like love and grow social media following. Those

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<v Speaker 1>people are characterized on the show as very nice, either

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<v Speaker 1>heartbroken or end up in love. Yeah, anyone that's like

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<v Speaker 1>going on the show like for a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>get fucked up, which is what all these people are.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing and like shamelessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like and that's that's like the biggest difference yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of fun. Like it's so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing after watching so many seasons of of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's also like as viewers, we watch reality because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that serious, you know, it's fun. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>And Bachelott definitely have more of a serious tone to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's to be expected. But like Paradise, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like there's been a bit of a struggle of it's

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 3>like Paradise is not that serious, like, yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to find love, you want to find a relationship, but

0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 3>it's meant to be this like fun, young, beachy show.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that we've kind of lost that tone

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<v Speaker 3>of like guys, like, don't stop taking yourself so serious,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is meant to be fun, And it like

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<v Speaker 3>translates as a viewer watching Paradise versus watching Bachelor Pad.

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Like Bachelor Pad, they're like, yeah, it is meant to

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 3>be fun, Like we're literally just here to have a

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<v Speaker 3>good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was also a different time, like, like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, drinking culture was totally that. This was

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<v Speaker 1>still a time where you would go to bars in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and be able to smoke cigarettes in there.

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<v Speaker 3>What's crazy too is like nowadays, obviously it's no secret,

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people from the show have other opportunities,

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 3>become influencers, become entrepreneurs. These are people that had like

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<v Speaker 3>full corporate jobs that were going to act this way

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 3>on national television like just hammered swimming in the pool,

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<v Speaker 3>getting yelled at my Chris Harrison and then go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like that is a whole other thing I did

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 3>even think about.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say there was a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>probably got fired weren't able to go back to work

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<v Speaker 1>after this. Like Ad was a Chicago fireman, so it

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.440
<v Speaker 1>was probably he was probably like celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have like go like I guess it depends

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<v Speaker 2>on like what jobs had to Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but if you're in like banking and like finance,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're getting fired, Yeah, you're not going back to that.

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:52.919
<v Speaker 1>If you're in you know, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery or you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're doing that, I think you're fine. I like

0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:00.200
<v Speaker 1>your example, Yeah, firemen and cosmetics, like you're good offing.

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Anyone's gonna fire you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So getting back into the competition element, they are essentially

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<v Speaker 3>going to be voting each other out.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the structure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so this is now based on like the contestants

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<v Speaker 3>against the fans. They're kind of like, hey, we have

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<v Speaker 3>more of a right to be here than you guys

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.880
<v Speaker 3>coming in as a fan, Like you have an easy

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 3>target on your back, let's pick them off. But then

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<v Speaker 3>we've also got David, who is one of the fans

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 3>who's safe because he want the competition, is aggressively trying

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<v Speaker 3>to vote Eric Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure why was there like a specific reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's read so if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>win the competition, if you you're on the team that

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>wins the competition, you are safe, Yes, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>if you come if you're out first, you automatically have

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 1>a vote against right. So I think he saw that

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<v Speaker 1>and instantly ran his mouth, which on any competition show,

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the show, you need to be

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>under the radar, especially if you're coming in as an outcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, because so Erica Rose and her partner Nick

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.879
<v Speaker 3>were the first out of the competition, so they automatically

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 3>had a vote against them, and I think that's where

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 3>David was like, well, let's just vote them out.

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 2>They already have a vote against them.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is it didn't work as much as you know,

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>we had David petitioning for it, and then we had

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<v Speaker 3>Read and Kaylin just straight up lying to Erica Rose's

0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 3>space and scheming behind her back, being like we're sending

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<v Speaker 3>her homes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So now, unfortunately eric Rose is still in the house

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 3>and she hates David and now she's coming for him

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 3>next week, which is the fun of a competition show. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like there was, yeah, there was there

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<v Speaker 1>had to be an element amongst producers and even castmates

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.959
<v Speaker 1>of like we still want like to make good television

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<v Speaker 1>and Erica Rose right now is our top gun, Like

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<v Speaker 1>is she is the TV maker out of this group?

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<v Speaker 3>She especially the girls more low key girl, she cannot

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<v Speaker 3>n go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's also like like we don't really think this

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 3>is more this way that much on our show, but

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 3>like I'm assuming at this time it was like if

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 3>eric Carros goes home, we have to start doing shit

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 3>and we have to step it up, but we have

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<v Speaker 3>to start making TV. Why wouldn't we keep her around

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 3>when she's doing so much?

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think a lot of these people, I

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty easy for them to make TV because

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>A they're drunk and be everyone really like doesn't seem

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to care that much, which is great. Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do really like the element. The one thing I

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>do like is I enjoy enjoy watching like the scheming

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:48.959
<v Speaker 1>and then like, Okay, we got this person's vault, this

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>person's well, we see.

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Read and Kaylin.

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<v Speaker 1>No her name, was reading Page trying to figure out

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>like to keep her on the show.

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because they were partners for the challenge, and honestly,

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Page is a fan. She ends up going home and

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Chris was the other fan. He ended up going home.

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 3>But Page was really nice and I thought it was

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.719
<v Speaker 3>sweet that Reid was like, hey, I like her. We

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 3>were in this challenge together, Like I'm gonna fight for

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 3>her to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the part that I love because now what

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get or is you're gonna get people falling

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for each other, and then you're gonna get somebody that

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 1>may have fallen for you who's jealous of the situation.

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna vote that person. So now the stakes are

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<v Speaker 1>even higher because not only do you want to win

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the money, you also want your connection, yeah, to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when people start like fucking with you that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for example, we've got the love try and go

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<v Speaker 3>with Chris, Blakelee, and Jamie going on Blakely. If I'm her,

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm gunning for Jamie now because not only is Blakely like,

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>you're distracting my partner, it seems like she kind of

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 3>has a crush on Chris and is like, well, maybe

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 3>if I get Jamie out of the way, I can

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<v Speaker 3>shoot my shot here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you think they should do? Like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go home as a team, Like I kind

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm wondering if the partners switch up.

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe you know what I mean.

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm wondering if they want the partners to switch up,

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>because if you go home as a team, then it's

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 3>never gonna change where I think the hope is probably

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>like there's an opportunity for like, oh, I'm with this person,

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 3>but I'm crushing on this person, so like I'm going

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 3>to ditch them because they're pissing me off and go

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<v Speaker 3>like team up with them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of movie pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of movie pieces. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>potential messiness, which I think is good.

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would like you need to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Like another episode or two. I feel like to like

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 3>really get locked in on the format.

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or give me at the beginning of the show,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>give me like a grid or like a bracket system

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of how this tournament works, Like, give me, I want

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that in all competition shows, like I'm want.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not on the show, but like yeah, like on

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 3>their website, there needs to be like a rules tab

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 3>so you guys can just go and be like okay,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 3>like what But then at the same time, you know

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 3>that there's going to be like twists and turns and

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 3>things that they throw at them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. But if the first time I ever played Monopoly,

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I need to read the rules, yeah, okay, yeah, and

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>if I'm watching people play Monopoly, which would be boring.

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But if I decided that I want to sit there

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>for my entertainment and watch people play Monopoly, I still

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:18.959
<v Speaker 1>need to know the rules of the game. It's going

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to be interesting. For like, comparing this now to what

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>we are about to watch with Bachelor of Paradise, well.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Are like theory is it's not a coincidence that Bachelor

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>is releasing this episode and highlighting Bachelor pad on the

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, we said you can watch this episode of

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Bachler Pad on the Bachelor Nation YouTube, which we encourage

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 3>you to do.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 2>It is a fun watch.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's like timing, is a coincidence

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>that they're releasing this and they're encouraging people to watch

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 3>it kind of a month or two before Paradise comes out.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if.

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 3>They're going to be bringing some of these elements back

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 3>because like my questions like why now, Like why are

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 3>we circling back to Bachelor Pad now?

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think I think we are. I

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's exactly what's happening. I think we're right who

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>watching this episode one? Do you have your favorites? Like

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>who is your favorite?

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of I mean, like taking Chris out

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 3>of it because obviously we know him personally, so we're

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 3>a little biased there. I mean I like Kaylin and

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I like Erica Rose. I just think they're both like

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 3>very chaotic. They're gonna stir things up. They're like you know,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>people that you like love to hate, hate to love.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I also like Read because he's not scared to get

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it done, Like he's he's going out there, he's making

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>he's confident.

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's making moves. I like read too.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>He he's showing confidence, he's making moves, which is exactly

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>what he just said, and I'm just repeating it, but

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I did like that girl Page who was the fan.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she was sweet and she they they made

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>her look really nice. It was that. Yeah, I thought

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>she was actually gonna make it.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>But I like this Jacqueline Blakelee Dynamic. I think that's fun.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 3>I like Ed as much as he's kind of a

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 3>mess and someone that like. He'll either get it together

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and you'll end up being like this guy's fun and

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I like him, or he won't and you'll be like, Okay,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>it's time for him to go home.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm assuming ad was a was the biggest fan

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>favorite on the show.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Well he ended up with Gillian Harris yet, but I

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>don't think he was a fan favorite because I believe

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 3>in his package. He said that there was a bunch

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>of rumors that he was caught out with like other girls.

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Well that's what he said. He's like, there was there

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was cheating rumors, Yeah, which like not deny on that?

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Did your hear?

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Like no, I miss that.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean I heard the like yeah, like the cheating

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>rumors and stuff. I didn't hear him say that, yeah,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 3>not denying.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>That, Oh no, oh no.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>At the beginning, he's like, yeah, I know a lot

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of you read the tabloids and the tabloids when just

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the word tabloid just sounds I love that so.

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Old, I know.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know what's crazy is like it wasn't that

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 3>long ago, Like it really was like fifteen twenty years ago.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Think about how much things have evolved in a short

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>period of time when it comes to like media, entertainment, news.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>You want to know what's even You want to know

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>what's even crazier is when this show came out. I

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know what year it was, but there is a

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>really good chance that the iPhone wasn't out yet, like

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>or it might have been like early stages. It might

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have been like iPhone one.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>You might be right.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what year, yeah, came out Bachelor Pad season three,

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty ten. Okay, what year was the iPhone released? Two

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>thousand and seven? Okay, so the iPhone was out, but yeah,

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>still still early.

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty crazy but entertaining episode overall. I enjoyed it.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you watch episode two?

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I would watch episode two more joke, because I feel

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 3>like they like do a good job of like lighting

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>a few fires in episode one. You kind of have

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 3>a general idea of the plot, the competition, but also

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 3>there's like room to learn more, Like you leave with

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 3>questions and curiosity.

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was good. I feel like Bachelor Pad.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Was maybe like ahead of its time, Like I feel

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 3>like if they'd stuck with it and maybe just like

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>pivoted a few.

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Things, I'm actually watching it, I'm actually surprised that they

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>ever they have they ever made the change from Bachelor

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Pad to Paradise.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, I could see them changing locations obviously, like we

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 3>talked about in the beginning. I don't know if the

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>mansion is like a fit for this style, but I

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>am surprised that they cut the competition element format. And

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, you know, Bachelor Universe is based on

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>finding love, right, Like that's the core value, and I

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 3>can understand maybe why they wanted to circle back to that.

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>But we've always said, like there's so much opportunity for

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 3>like spinoff shows within the franchise with alumni, with potential

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 3>competition shows, and I feel like Bachelor Pad like there's

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>a place for that yeah, still to this day.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, but I also think like Bachelor and Paradise was

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a way for the franchise to gain successful couples, right,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they have successful numbers because I think, well.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 3>And I guess that's what it went back to, is

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>like this franchise is based off having successful, long lasting

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>love stories and they weren't going to get that from

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Bachelor pat Like they needed a Paradise, which honestly has

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 3>produced so many couples. So if that was their goal,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 3>like they've achieved it definitely. But then maybe we have

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 3>like another show that's competition show with people that have

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 3>like are already in relationship.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Well I said that, I've pitched that before, where you

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>do it a a a couple's competition show. Yeah, but

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, no one listens to me, not that I know, though,

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, So I

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>think that basically that's basically it. I'm assuming Veteran Nation

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is going to release the entire season on YouTube, so

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>check that out. We will be watching and make sure

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you stay tuned the Bachelor Happy Hour because we have

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of new episodes, new recaps every week.

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you so much for listening Bye,