1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: We are here to recap a different episode something we've 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: really never talked about on this podcast, which is Bachelor Pad, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: which came out before Bachelor in Paradise, and we're kind 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: of doing this because we're getting ready for Bachelor in Paradise. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: But Bachelor Pad Season three, episode one was just released 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel, so we watched it and 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: we're going to recap that shit show right now. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: If you are not familiar with Bachelor Pad, because it's 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: been what like fifteen years since Bachelor Pad was a thing, 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: there's a couple seasons of it. It took place in 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: the Bachelor Mansion, similar style to Paradise, where it was 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: like co ed guys and girls, but it was a 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: mix of dating and a competition show, so there's different pairs, 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: there's competitions like physical challenges that you have to win 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 3: and then compete for to get different advantages, and then 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: the goal at the end was to both hopefully find 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: a relationship, but even more so to win the cash prize, 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: which was I believe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: this season correct. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: So one thing that so obviously Bachelor Pett evolved into 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, which watching bacheler Pet, the first thing 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: that was kind of like I didn't love was that 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: they were in the mansion. Still, I like the aesthetic 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: of like a beach in paradise. 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I love the mansion. I think it's so iconic. 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: But I think what people forget is on the regular 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: seasons of The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, you only see 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: so much of the mansion. It's really just like where 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: the girls and guys are hanging out and sleeping and 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: getting date cards, and then you're out and about like 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: you're on dates with the lead, and then after week 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: four you're traveling, so like it's not as much as 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: it's an iconic symbol. It's really just like a big 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: part of night one, and then after that you're not 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: seeing that much of it, seeing a whole season in 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: the mansion. I think that a setting like a beach 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: in paradise, like Cabo Costa, Rica is a way better 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: fit for like a full time show. I agree the 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: flow of the house. It's also like it's a little dark, 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: like it's got like that like Spanish influence to it. 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a little like it's just it's a 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: little small. Yeah, so too, you know, And it's not 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: small obviously for like a family to live there, but 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: it's like to have. 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Like a cast of thirty people film me there twenty 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: four to seven. I would actually be curious to know 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: if they were like having challenges with that a little bit. 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure, yeah, sure, so we The first 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: thing we're kind of introduced to is you get the 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: cast that are they're all coming back, and you have 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: people like who we know, like Chris Pokowski is kind 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: of the only one that we personally know. 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Pukowski, who's been on like the most Bachelor 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: shows ever. Yeah, you're probably familiar with him. He was 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: on Pair Nice a few times. He came from Emily 58 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Maynard season and he's now with Anna Redmond. Yeah, but 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: everyone else I was not as familiar with. I mean, 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: we know Chris personally, I don't know any of the 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: other cast members, but all from seasons. Just to give 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: you a little context, Deanna, Jillian, Harris Ashley, and Emily 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: Maynard seasons of the Bacherette and then Ben Flanagan, Brad 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: and Lorenzo's seasons of the Bachelor is what we're pulling 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: some pulling from. So we're going like very old school 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: but like kind of like the height of Bachelor stiff. 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say those the people that make seasons. 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I would assume that the people that were on this 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: season were the most were the fan favorites of their 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor. 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Bacherette definitely. 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, Ed was engaged to Jillian 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: Harris and it didn't work out, and he's like a 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: main character in this. 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: TV because the guy's just getting wasted running around naked. Yeah, 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: we don't get to see that stuff anymore totally. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: And then we have Kaylin, who was on Emily Maynard's season. 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: He was kind of the villain. He called her daughter 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: baggage and he's like like. 80 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: That, Like that's the thing about like now everyone is 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: so media trained and social media trained that you will 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: never see that. Yeah, but like it it's a reminder 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: of how like funny and raw reality TV was, yeh 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: be because people were just fucking talking crazy shit. 85 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like even this first episode, I couldn't believe 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: I could believe what they were saying, but I couldn't 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: believe they were saying it on Bachelor Pad, a show 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: that has like millions of viewers. 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Attacks on like people's just looks. 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh, it was constant, just their physical appearance coming for 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: one another. And I mean, you know they're referencing, Like 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: you guys have to remember that are listening, Like they're 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: referencing the tabloids, like that was where things were happening. 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: There was no social media. So it's like nowadays, you 95 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: say something on the show that people don't like, you're 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: getting attacked in your DMS. They have this direct access 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: to you. They're picking apart your character, they're picking apart 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: everything that you have said, whether they like it or 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: don't like it. There was no direct access unless you 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: like ran into these people on the street. So like 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: you have these people that are villains, you know, like 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 3: Blakely talks about like how she wasn't very like like Kaylin. 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, like I called her daughter baggage, and 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 3: like I'm standing ten toes down on what I said 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: and like I'm down to be controversial and not liked 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: because like it was just way less of a risk 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: back then. I really think like social media has elevated 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: and like decreased the entertainment. 109 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Of reality television. 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: Like watching this, I was like, wow, like you would 111 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: just like Sarafina called Zoe's dress super short and like 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: we all were up in arms. The stuff people are 113 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: saying about each other on this show doesn't even come 114 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: close to. 115 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: That, Like, it is way more below the ball. 116 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: This is this is the ship talking that contestants getting 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: their dm dms from people that watch the show, they 118 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: will get this kind of shit said to them. 119 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different from like, you know, someone in 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: the house versus like hundreds of strangers who are like 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: taking it way too far. 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think it's funny because like yeah, like 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: like that comment from Sarah Fina and I was like, 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: how could you say that? It's like fucking a ton 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: of people watching this at home, we're saying shit like that. 126 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people are saying it on the comfort of 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: their couch. But then we've got we've got this Bachelor 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: padcast being like you're ugly and I hate you and 129 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: you're stupid and your dress is hideous? 130 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: How could she wear that? 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: It's disgusting because ugly and like just like direct comments 132 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: on like these people. 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: Jacquline walked up to. 135 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: Blakely. 136 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, David Jaffin walked up to David by the pools, like, 137 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: you're to vote me out? I just want to let 138 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: you know you're a loser and you're ugly. 139 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, it's so crazy about I love it. 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Then the second thing they introduced to us is they 141 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: are bringing fans of Bachelor onto Bachelor Pad to compete, 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: which is interesting. Also, the show has to remind us 143 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: a million times that, like, the fans love watching the 144 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor and that they're on the Bachelor. It's like this, 145 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why the show feels the need to 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: plug their own show during their show. On a consistent, 147 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: fucking basis, everybody is on watching the Bachelor. You don't 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: have to remind us that there's fans of the fucking show. 149 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: And they call them the fans like that, Like we're 150 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: not saying that, Like they call them the fans. 151 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: They call themselves like we are the fans. Like it's 152 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: like the. 153 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Contestants and then the fans, even though the fans are competing. 154 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: But it's kind of funny because they've cast people that 155 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: are obviously good looking, like they look like they could 156 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: be on the show, but they're casting people that they 157 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: know specifically. These girls are that are gonna like not 158 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: keep their cool, like they're not gonna come in and 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: like act like they've been here before. Like they're coming 160 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: in and they're like fanning out over Chris Harrison. They're 161 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: asking for selfies, like they are not acting like, oh, 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 3: we're all here as contestants, like we're all here together, 163 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: like they're coming and being like, oh my god, this 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: is my dream. 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm here. 166 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's a very distinct line between like who 167 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: the fans and who the contestants are. 168 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: Definitely, but I also think that was. 169 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: Push Oh yeah, I'm sure it was encouraged, like this 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: is so exciting, you know, we want to see that 171 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: you're a fan of this show, like don't be afraid 172 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: to like show that. Whereas like if a girl on 173 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Night one did that, like you're gone, You're home, You're 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: going home immediately, if you walk up to the Bachelor 175 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: and you like start fanning out. 176 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, interesting, interesting element to bring fans on, 177 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much an immediate like Okay, there are 178 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: people from the show the contestants from prior seasons, and 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: then there's the fans. We are going to x out 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: the fans, like immediately you're on, Like I think it's 181 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: like Chris Pucoski's like, you're on our show. 182 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's us against them. This girl Rachel is like enough, 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't want them here. And I mean they've made 184 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: it so like there's way more like there's triple the 185 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: amount of contestants than there are fans. There's only five 186 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: of the fans, so like they've made it very easy. 187 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: If the contestants want to pick them off, they can. 188 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: And I think even I think it was Rachel who said, 189 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: like you didn't get your heartbroken on national television, Like 190 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: you didn't have to go through and we had to 191 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: go through to be here, like almost the sense of 192 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: like there's an initiation process that you got to skip 193 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: and like that's not fair. 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very funny. So I kind of I guess, 195 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: like my but I like issue with it. If I 196 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: were to say I had an issue, is I kind 197 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: of like if I want to watch a competition show, 198 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: I want to watch a competition show, and if I 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: want to watch a show about people falling in love. 200 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I want to watch a show about people falling in 201 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: love the hybrid of both of those. As of now, 202 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: just watching episode one is like a little confusing because 203 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm like still like what are we? 204 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: What are we? Is the question? Like what is this? 205 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? What am I watching? And it's kind of hard, 206 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: like I don't even know. I yet to know, Like 207 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: how do you even win? The two? Like I get 208 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: that there's competitions. 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: Well, Like for those listening, the structure from episode one 210 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: that's presented is you pair up. You just pick your partner, 211 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: like it doesn't even have to be on like if 212 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: you're interested in them romantically, you pick a partner. I 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: think it's you know, girls and guys obviously, and then 214 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: there's this competition that happens where they have like these. 215 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: Hanging big hearts. 216 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: So we're like still on the theme of love, and 217 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: you and your partner have to fit into the heart 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: and they like tilt them and make it difficult for 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: you to stay in it, and the person that stays 220 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: in the longest wins and you're safe from elimination. So 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: very like traditional competition structure, like similar to like a 222 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 3: survivor a big brother. 223 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: I think that they needed to. I don't know. 224 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: I think they're having a like in episode one, like 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: it's hard to dictate, like is this like the challenge 226 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: where like it's a competition show, but like you also 227 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: know that people are going to end up poking up 228 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: and getting together just like naturally by having you know, 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: a bunch of heterosexual men and women in the house together. 230 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what they're going for. 231 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like we're not so it's not. 232 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: So like I would say it's competition show first, dating 233 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: show second. Yeah, but they're filtering in this kind of 234 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: like dating theme by making like the guys and girls 235 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: partner up and pick their partner and doing like the 236 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: love themed competition. 237 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not we're not showcasing on this show. 238 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe that they're going to be focusing or 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: showcasing a love story. If anything. They want to see 240 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: like people hooking up. Yeah, and arguments from that I'm 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: assuming from like like we're already seeing it with crys 242 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Pokowski and his partner and he's talking to another girl 243 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: and his partner is upset. 244 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Bukowski ends up with Blakelee as a partner 245 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: and then like that night, like very soon after he 246 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: is chatting with this girl Jamie, they're making out, Blakely's 247 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: piss like we're in an immediate love triangle. 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, why is Blakely pissed? Well, she's 249 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: saying she's pissed because she wants to win the money. 250 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: But I would assume she's pissed because maybe she thoughtge thing. 251 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: But like that's the thing. You don't you can't like 252 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: some of it, Like you can't really tell at least 253 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: from episode one, And I think that's my gripe. 254 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Your gripe with that. 255 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think like let's say, okay, so we 256 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: look at like The Challenge, which is a competition reality 257 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: show that has like a lot of romantic sideplots, and 258 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: then we look get something like leve Island, which is 259 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: a romantic dating reality show with competition side plots. And 260 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: I think that Bachelor Pad in this first episode hasn't 261 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: exactly figured out which one it is yet, like what 262 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: is the focus the competition or the dating? 263 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe there is when because there was seasons 264 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: prior to this, so maybe like people do know, we're 265 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: just we just. 266 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: Don't probably just yeah, we're just dummies. 267 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also we should add that, you know, these 268 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: two fans who partnered up David, and then there's twins 269 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: on this who are acting as one person, which I 270 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: just can't with twins. 271 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: And everyone the house seems to be really annoyed by 272 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: the twins. 273 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: They don't like the twins Eric and Brittany, which makes. 274 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: Sense because watching episode one, they come across a little alike. 275 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: Well, they're already in a disadvantage because they're fans, not contestants, 276 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: and then they're saying like, hey, we're one person, Like no, 277 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: you're not your two adult, grown women, Like. 278 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, but that's but that's also they're being Yeah the. 279 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: Show, they've been cast as one person, but yeah, they're 280 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: not coming across great David. Eric and Brittany win that 281 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: first competition, and their reward, other than being safe, is 282 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: they get to go on a date. So I guess 283 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: if you're like, if you're partnered with someone and it's 284 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: starting to turn into a romance, it's like that additional 285 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: incentive like, oh, we'd love to win because we want 286 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: to be safe, but also then we get to leave 287 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: the house and go on a date together. 288 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: So what's going to happen when you and your partner win, 289 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: but you're cooking up with somebody else so that you 290 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: go on a romantic date with your partner. 291 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, that's kind of like another element 292 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, I mean I think you just keep 293 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: it friendly and you just talk game strategy instead of 294 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: getting romantic. But yeah, no, there's definitely like a lot 295 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: of potential jealousy that could occur here. I mean we're 296 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: already seeing it with Chris and Blakely. 297 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Did you find anyone or did you see anyone on 298 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: this first episode that like you were rooting for, because 299 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: that was one thing also that I kind of noticed 300 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: is Yeah, I would say the Bachelor and The Bachelor 301 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: and even Bachelor in Paradise they kind of like they 302 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: kind of like showcase like a hero on episode one 303 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: or somebody that like the fans are gonna like, well, they're. 304 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: Telling you, like they're giving you clues of like these 305 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: are the one or two people that are safe, like 306 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: you can like them, like they're they're good, and then 307 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: you know you've got like. 308 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: The chaotic evil yea of like these. 309 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: Are maybe the villains, but maybe we like them a 310 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: little bit, like we've got the Kaitlin of it all, 311 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: who's like kind of a little out of the control, 312 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: but like he's entertaining. Or Erica Rose, Like Erica Rose 313 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: and Kaylin are in this feud because Erica Rose went 314 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: to the tabloids about Kaylin and like spoke badly about him. 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: They're both great, Like they're great immediately them, Like you 316 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: cannot kick one of those two people off from now. 317 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: Erica Rose almost gets sent home. So almost got sent home, 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: and it was like, no, you cannot lose her. She's 319 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 3: doing so much, she's so entertaining. 320 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I would say, Michael Michael got the. 321 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: Editor, Yeah, Michael Stagliano. 322 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Of like everyone's gonna like this guy. 323 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: Well, and he has been on Bachelor before. He's the 324 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: only like return he won it, so he's kind of 325 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: like you're following him through episode one is like Okay, 326 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: he knows what he's doing, he's done this before. And 327 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: also like everyone seems to really like him. 328 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they should kick him off. 329 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: How do we feel about Okay, so something we got 330 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: to talk about. Like Chris Harrison comes in and you know, 331 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: he talks to everyone in the room, and like this 332 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: guy ad from Chicago can't even sit and listen. He's 333 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: so fucked up. He's jumping in and out of the pool. 334 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in like little white tidy whities. 335 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Which like there's a girl like we don't care how 336 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: big your dick. 337 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: Is, Like put some pants on and sober up. That 338 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: was funny. I think that was Jamie. 339 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: That that was a wild time for reality TV. I forget, 340 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: like like I was like, all right, like like I 341 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: feel socially awkward. This is intense and intimidating. I need 342 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: a drink to you know, calm down. Yeah, yeah, get 343 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: rid of the edge. But like I'm probably gonna like 344 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: and then everyone's gonna be kind of doing well, that's. 345 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: What it is. It's everyone. I mean Ed's gone above 346 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: and beyond. 347 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Like everyone is clearly in their interviews by the end 348 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: of the night like they're drunk, Like they are doing 349 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: interviews absolutely drunk. They are sloppy, they're slurring their words. 350 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: But Ed is like on another level, like he's so hammered. 351 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: He's literally out in the pool. Well, Chris Heireus' is like, man, 352 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: we're trying to film a scene. Like I'm trying to 353 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 3: explain to you literally what show you're on. And like 354 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: he's just not even there. I don't know, it's it's 355 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 3: just a different time. But I also think like social 356 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: media plays a role into it too. I don't know 357 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: if you would see as many people because like, look, 358 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: it's all young, attractive, single people that are like, I've 359 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: got an open bar and a gorgeous mansion. I'm just 360 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: here to have a good time. Like I'm young and 361 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm just like looking a party. I think social media 362 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: makes people like just more conscious. I don't think I 363 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 3: don't know if we can see as many people getting 364 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: as drunk as we used to. 365 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Well. I also it also has to do with like 366 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: the show, right, Like it's kind of been proven over 367 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the history of The Bachelor with social media that the 368 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: contestants that do well after the show, and what I 369 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: mean by do well is like you know, get a 370 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: lot of like love and grow social media following. Those 371 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: people are characterized on the show as very nice, either 372 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: heartbroken or end up in love. Yeah, anyone that's like 373 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: going on the show like for a good time to 374 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: get fucked up, which is what all these people are. 375 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: Doing and like shamelessly. 376 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and that's that's like the biggest difference yeah, 377 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: and it's kind of fun. Like it's so it's like 378 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: refreshing after watching so many seasons of of kind of 379 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: the same thing. 380 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 381 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's also like as viewers, we watch reality because it's. 382 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: Not that serious, you know, it's fun. And I mean 383 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: I think Bachelor. 384 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: And Bachelott definitely have more of a serious tone to them, 385 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: and that's to be expected. But like Paradise, I feel 386 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: like there's been a bit of a struggle of it's 387 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: like Paradise is not that serious, like, yeah, you want 388 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: to find love, you want to find a relationship, but 389 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: it's meant to be this like fun, young, beachy show. 390 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: And I think that we've kind of lost that tone 391 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: of like guys, like, don't stop taking yourself so serious, 392 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: Like this is meant to be fun, And it like 393 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: translates as a viewer watching Paradise versus watching Bachelor Pad. 394 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: Like Bachelor Pad, they're like, yeah, it is meant to 395 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: be fun, Like we're literally just here to have a 396 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: good time. 397 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was also a different time, like, like 398 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: I would say, drinking culture was totally that. This was 399 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: still a time where you would go to bars in 400 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: Chicago and be able to smoke cigarettes in there. 401 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: What's crazy too is like nowadays, obviously it's no secret, 402 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: like a lot of people from the show have other opportunities, 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: become influencers, become entrepreneurs. These are people that had like 404 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: full corporate jobs that were going to act this way 405 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: on national television like just hammered swimming in the pool, 406 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: getting yelled at my Chris Harrison and then go. 407 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Back to work. 408 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is a whole other thing I did 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: even think about. 410 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: I would say there was a lot of people that 411 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: probably got fired weren't able to go back to work 412 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: after this. Like Ad was a Chicago fireman, so it 413 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: was probably he was probably like celebrated. 414 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: Like you have like go like I guess it depends 415 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: on like what jobs had to Sure. 416 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're in like banking and like finance, 417 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: like you're getting fired, Yeah, you're not going back to that. 418 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: If you're in you know, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery or you 419 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: know you're doing that, I think you're fine. I like 420 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: your example, Yeah, firemen and cosmetics, like you're good offing. 421 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Anyone's gonna fire you for that. 422 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: So getting back into the competition element, they are essentially 423 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: going to be voting each other out. 424 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Is the structure. 425 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is now based on like the contestants 426 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: against the fans. They're kind of like, hey, we have 427 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: more of a right to be here than you guys 428 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: coming in as a fan, Like you have an easy 429 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: target on your back, let's pick them off. But then 430 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: we've also got David, who is one of the fans 431 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: who's safe because he want the competition, is aggressively trying 432 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: to vote Eric Rose. 433 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure why was there like a specific reason. 434 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's read so if you if you 435 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: win the competition, if you you're on the team that 436 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: wins the competition, you are safe, Yes, if you are 437 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: if you come if you're out first, you automatically have 438 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: a vote against right. So I think he saw that 439 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: and instantly ran his mouth, which on any competition show, 440 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, you need to be 441 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: under the radar, especially if you're coming in as an outcast. 442 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, because so Erica Rose and her partner Nick 443 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: were the first out of the competition, so they automatically 444 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: had a vote against them, and I think that's where 445 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: David was like, well, let's just vote them out. 446 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: They already have a vote against them. 447 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: The thing is it didn't work as much as you know, 448 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: we had David petitioning for it, and then we had 449 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: Read and Kaylin just straight up lying to Erica Rose's 450 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: space and scheming behind her back, being like we're sending 451 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: her homes. 452 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 453 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: So now, unfortunately eric Rose is still in the house 454 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: and she hates David and now she's coming for him 455 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: next week, which is the fun of a competition show. Yeah. 456 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: I also feel like there was, yeah, there was there 457 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: had to be an element amongst producers and even castmates 458 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: of like we still want like to make good television 459 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: and Erica Rose right now is our top gun, Like 460 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: is she is the TV maker out of this group? 461 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: She especially the girls more low key girl, she cannot 462 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: n go home. 463 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: Well, it's also like like we don't really think this 465 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: is more this way that much on our show, but 466 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: like I'm assuming at this time it was like if 467 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: eric Carros goes home, we have to start doing shit 468 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: and we have to step it up, but we have 469 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: to start making TV. Why wouldn't we keep her around 470 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: when she's doing so much? 471 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: But I do think a lot of these people, I 472 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: think it's pretty easy for them to make TV because 473 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: A they're drunk and be everyone really like doesn't seem 474 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: to care that much, which is great. Yeah, I do. 475 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: I do really like the element. The one thing I 476 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: do like is I enjoy enjoy watching like the scheming 477 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: and then like, Okay, we got this person's vault, this 478 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: person's well, we see. 479 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Read and Kaylin. 480 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: No her name, was reading Page trying to figure out 481 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: like to keep her on the show. 482 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: Yes, because they were partners for the challenge, and honestly, 483 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: Page is a fan. She ends up going home and 484 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: Chris was the other fan. He ended up going home. 485 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: But Page was really nice and I thought it was 486 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 3: sweet that Reid was like, hey, I like her. We 487 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: were in this challenge together, Like I'm gonna fight for 488 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: her to stay. 489 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's the part that I love because now what 490 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna get or is you're gonna get people falling 491 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: for each other, and then you're gonna get somebody that 492 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: may have fallen for you who's jealous of the situation. 493 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna vote that person. So now the stakes are 494 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: even higher because not only do you want to win 495 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: the money, you also want your connection, yeah, to stay. 496 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: And then when people start like fucking with you that way. 497 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: Well, for example, we've got the love try and go 498 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: with Chris, Blakelee, and Jamie going on Blakely. If I'm her, 499 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: I'm gunning for Jamie now because not only is Blakely like, 500 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: you're distracting my partner, it seems like she kind of 501 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: has a crush on Chris and is like, well, maybe 502 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: if I get Jamie out of the way, I can 503 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: shoot my shot here. 504 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Do you do you think they should do? Like you 505 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: have to go home as a team, Like I kind 506 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: of think. 507 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering if the partners switch up. 508 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Oh maybe you know what I mean. 509 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: Like, I'm wondering if they want the partners to switch up, 510 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: because if you go home as a team, then it's 511 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: never gonna change where I think the hope is probably 512 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: like there's an opportunity for like, oh, I'm with this person, 513 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 3: but I'm crushing on this person, so like I'm going 514 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: to ditch them because they're pissing me off and go 515 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: like team up with them. 516 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of movie pieces. 517 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of movie pieces. There's a lot of 518 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: potential messiness, which I think is good. 519 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like you need to watch. 520 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Like another episode or two. I feel like to like 521 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: really get locked in on the format. 522 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, or give me at the beginning of the show, 523 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: give me like a grid or like a bracket system 524 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: of how this tournament works, Like, give me, I want 525 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: that in all competition shows, like I'm want. 526 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: Maybe not on the show, but like yeah, like on 527 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: their website, there needs to be like a rules tab 528 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: so you guys can just go and be like okay, 529 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: like what But then at the same time, you know 530 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: that there's going to be like twists and turns and 531 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: things that they throw at them. 532 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: That's fine. But if the first time I ever played Monopoly, 533 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I need to read the rules, yeah, okay, yeah, and 534 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: if I'm watching people play Monopoly, which would be boring. 535 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: But if I decided that I want to sit there 536 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: for my entertainment and watch people play Monopoly, I still 537 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: need to know the rules of the game. It's going 538 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: to be interesting. For like, comparing this now to what 539 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: we are about to watch with Bachelor of Paradise, well. 540 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: Are like theory is it's not a coincidence that Bachelor 541 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: is releasing this episode and highlighting Bachelor pad on the 542 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: You know, we said you can watch this episode of 543 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: Bachler Pad on the Bachelor Nation YouTube, which we encourage 544 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 3: you to do. 545 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: It is a fun watch. 546 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like timing, is a coincidence 547 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: that they're releasing this and they're encouraging people to watch 548 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 3: it kind of a month or two before Paradise comes out. 549 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if. 550 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 3: They're going to be bringing some of these elements back 551 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: because like my questions like why now, Like why are 552 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: we circling back to Bachelor Pad now? 553 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think we are. I 554 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: think that's exactly what's happening. I think we're right who 555 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: watching this episode one? Do you have your favorites? Like 556 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: who is your favorite? 557 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of I mean, like taking Chris out 558 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: of it because obviously we know him personally, so we're 559 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: a little biased there. I mean I like Kaylin and 560 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: I like Erica Rose. I just think they're both like 561 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: very chaotic. They're gonna stir things up. They're like you know, 562 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: people that you like love to hate, hate to love. 563 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: I also like Read because he's not scared to get 564 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: it done, Like he's he's going out there, he's making 565 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: he's confident. 566 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's making moves. I like read too. 567 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: He he's showing confidence, he's making moves, which is exactly 568 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: what he just said, and I'm just repeating it, but 569 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 570 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: I did like that girl Page who was the fan. 571 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was sweet and she they they made 572 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: her look really nice. It was that. Yeah, I thought 573 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: she was actually gonna make it. 574 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: But I like this Jacqueline Blakelee Dynamic. I think that's fun. 575 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: I like Ed as much as he's kind of a 576 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: mess and someone that like. He'll either get it together 577 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: and you'll end up being like this guy's fun and 578 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: I like him, or he won't and you'll be like, Okay, 579 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: it's time for him to go home. 580 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming ad was a was the biggest fan 581 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: favorite on the show. 582 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: Well he ended up with Gillian Harris yet, but I 583 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: don't think he was a fan favorite because I believe 584 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: in his package. He said that there was a bunch 585 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: of rumors that he was caught out with like other girls. 586 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Well that's what he said. He's like, there was there 587 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: was cheating rumors, Yeah, which like not deny on that? 588 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Did your hear? 589 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Like no, I miss that. 590 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean I heard the like yeah, like the cheating 591 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: rumors and stuff. I didn't hear him say that, yeah, 592 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: not denying. 593 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: That, Oh no, oh no. 594 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: At the beginning, he's like, yeah, I know a lot 595 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: of you read the tabloids and the tabloids when just 596 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: the word tabloid just sounds I love that so. 597 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: Old, I know. 598 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is like it wasn't that 599 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: long ago, Like it really was like fifteen twenty years ago. 600 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: Think about how much things have evolved in a short 601 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: period of time when it comes to like media, entertainment, news. 602 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: You want to know what's even You want to know 603 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: what's even crazier is when this show came out. I 604 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: don't know what year it was, but there is a 605 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: really good chance that the iPhone wasn't out yet, like 606 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: or it might have been like early stages. It might 607 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: have been like iPhone one. 608 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: You might be right. 609 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: Let's see what year, yeah, came out Bachelor Pad season three, 610 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: twenty ten. Okay, what year was the iPhone released? Two 611 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: thousand and seven? Okay, so the iPhone was out, but yeah, 612 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: still still early. 613 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty crazy but entertaining episode overall. I enjoyed it. 614 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Would you watch episode two? 615 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 616 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: I would watch episode two more joke, because I feel 617 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: like they like do a good job of like lighting 618 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: a few fires in episode one. You kind of have 619 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: a general idea of the plot, the competition, but also 620 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: there's like room to learn more, Like you leave with 621 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: questions and curiosity. 622 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: I feel like it was good. I feel like Bachelor Pad. 623 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: Was maybe like ahead of its time, Like I feel 624 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: like if they'd stuck with it and maybe just like 625 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: pivoted a few. 626 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Things, I'm actually watching it, I'm actually surprised that they 627 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: ever they have they ever made the change from Bachelor 628 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: Pad to Paradise. 629 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: Well, I could see them changing locations obviously, like we 630 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: talked about in the beginning. I don't know if the 631 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: mansion is like a fit for this style, but I 632 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: am surprised that they cut the competition element format. And 633 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, Bachelor Universe is based on 634 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: finding love, right, Like that's the core value, and I 635 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: can understand maybe why they wanted to circle back to that. 636 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: But we've always said, like there's so much opportunity for 637 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: like spinoff shows within the franchise with alumni, with potential 638 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: competition shows, and I feel like Bachelor Pad like there's 639 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: a place for that yeah, still to this day. 640 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, but I also think like Bachelor and Paradise was 641 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: a way for the franchise to gain successful couples, right, 642 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: they have successful numbers because I think, well. 643 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: And I guess that's what it went back to, is 644 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: like this franchise is based off having successful, long lasting 645 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: love stories and they weren't going to get that from 646 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 3: Bachelor pat Like they needed a Paradise, which honestly has 647 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: produced so many couples. So if that was their goal, 648 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: like they've achieved it definitely. But then maybe we have 649 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: like another show that's competition show with people that have 650 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: like are already in relationship. 651 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Well I said that, I've pitched that before, where you 652 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: do it a a a couple's competition show. Yeah, but 653 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, no one listens to me, not that I know, though, 654 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, So I 655 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: think that basically that's basically it. I'm assuming Veteran Nation 656 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: is going to release the entire season on YouTube, so 657 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: check that out. We will be watching and make sure 658 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: you stay tuned the Bachelor Happy Hour because we have 659 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: of new episodes, new recaps every week. 660 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for listening Bye,