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Speaker 1: do something interesting, maybe a surprise at the number one
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Speaker 1: and your input is always welcome. Pelicans, Sons tied at
Speaker 1: two games, Apiece, Bucks, Nuggets and Heat all win tonight, Celtics, Nets, Raptors,
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers, Jazz and the Mavericks. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that with Jeff Van Gundy here in a moment. We
Speaker 1: start draft week now normally during draft week, as we
Speaker 1: get ready on that Monday, we go, boy, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting because we're gonna go who's going number one,
Speaker 1: who's going number two? Any trades, what's going to happen here?
Speaker 1: You know, you always have those moments where you go,
Speaker 1: I didn't see that one coming. So when you say,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna say, or I've thought, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much buzz there is with this draft. And because
Speaker 1: we don't have the Marquis quarterbacks, we don't even have
Speaker 1: we have a lot of wide receivers. You don't even
Speaker 1: have that edge rusher that you go, boy, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. This is one of those drafts where you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we got a couple of wide receivers, he
Speaker 1: got some offensive lineman, you got a great defensive back
Speaker 1: or two. Not a lot of headline making moments here,
Speaker 1: we don't have that Trevor Lawrence player in this draft.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean something wild won't happen. After all the
Speaker 1: drafts in Vegas, who knows, you could say and such
Speaker 1: and such selects such and such is he? Here is he? Here?
Speaker 1: It is Vegas. But you go into the week and
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, what are the possibilities here? Because there'll
Speaker 1: be a team where you go, oh, boy, like the
Speaker 1: Niners with Trey Lance, Wow, I didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 1: Or will the Falcons take a quarterback? Denver didn't take
Speaker 1: a quarterback? That means that they're going to be taking
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're gonna trade him. Patriots Bill Belichick, Oh,
Speaker 1: he found his Tom Brady, His Tom Brady, Matt Jones.
Speaker 1: There's always something there and it'll be the same this year, guaranteed.
Speaker 1: And it might be a player that you're not that
Speaker 1: familiar with. It might be a backstory you're not familiar with.
Speaker 1: It might be a team that reaches a team that
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden has somebody fall right
Speaker 1: into their laps. There could be a trade. Do the
Speaker 1: Steelers take Kenny Pick? Do they take Malik Willis? By
Speaker 1: the way. And I've said this over the years, but
Speaker 1: you know we still buy into it. Nobody tells you
Speaker 1: the truth, no one. Why would they unless they want
Speaker 1: to give you information. You know what the culprits are
Speaker 1: the agents, because the agents ago, hey, you you want
Speaker 1: some information. I'm hearing this. That's why I don't trust
Speaker 1: the agents. You know, I do have some sources. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a source who's a scout who said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm hearing. With Jacksonville at the top,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna go with the guy who's either
Speaker 1: the safe pick in Hutchinson at Michigan or Trayvon Walker,
Speaker 1: the edge rusher defensive player out of Georgia who has
Speaker 1: a higher ceiling. That that's when I'm hearing. And plus
Speaker 1: he went through all the particulars with these players, being
Speaker 1: able to talk to them or examine them or watch
Speaker 1: their workouts. So I trust his information. He's also the
Speaker 1: one that told me that the Cleveland Browns were going
Speaker 1: to take Baker Mayfield, a story that we had before
Speaker 1: anybody else did. But a lot of people have agendas,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people want to give you information,
Speaker 1: but they want to help out their client. I'll go
Speaker 1: back to when I was hosting the NBA Draft on
Speaker 1: the mother Ship and I had an agent come up
Speaker 1: to me and said, are you going to address the
Speaker 1: knee injuries? Who was the kid out of Washington State
Speaker 1: drafted by Portland, Brandon Roy. Yeah. So he says, you're gonna,
Speaker 1: you guys gonna talk about the needs and I said, well,
Speaker 1: I'll leave that to my analyst, you know, but he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, he won't stay in the league that long
Speaker 1: got bad knees. So then you know, you start asking
Speaker 1: your analysts there said, hey, how is Brandon Roy? You know,
Speaker 1: he could be Rookie of the Year. One of my
Speaker 1: analysts said, I said, does he have you know, knee issues? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't don't know the severity of it. I said, well,
Speaker 1: I just had somebody who said, hey, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got like a degenerative knee and issue. And I was told,
Speaker 1: you're going to get a lot of that from agents
Speaker 1: or people close to agents, sources closed to So it's
Speaker 1: a game that's played. And I've been used before where
Speaker 1: somebody will tell you something and you go, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got it on a good good you know, a
Speaker 1: good authority, and then you realize, oh, I think I
Speaker 1: got played. And having been at the Mothership for eighteen years,
Speaker 1: I saw that happen to our analysts, you know, even
Speaker 1: as great as like Peter Gammon's I remember he was
Speaker 1: given information about the next head coach I think for
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and it turned out that it wasn't true.
Speaker 1: But you know, somebody was trying to help their client.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a game, and that's why you
Speaker 1: get a little closer, maybe you know, Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Then you start to hear a little bit more information.
Speaker 1: Then it starts to get a little bit more serious.
Speaker 1: But all this stuff leading up to it, all these
Speaker 1: mock drafts, all of that stuff that's for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 1: And what I've found is it does introduce you to
Speaker 1: certain players that you might not be aware of, like
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener. I was told by a scout that guy's
Speaker 1: a top five pick. And I even talked to my
Speaker 1: source yesterday and I said, is Sauce Gardner is still
Speaker 1: going to be a top five pick? He goes he
Speaker 1: could be the best player in the draft, Cincinnati defensive back.
Speaker 1: But my source said the best player doesn't always go
Speaker 1: number one. Keep that in mind because a lot of
Speaker 1: times there'll be somebody who's better, or have a longer
Speaker 1: career or more of an impact, but quarterbacks are normally taken.
Speaker 1: How many times in the last twenty years have we
Speaker 1: had a draft where we didn't have a quarterback take
Speaker 1: in number one overall? Because I can remember Jadeveon Clowney,
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher, Oh, good call out of Central Michigan. Yeah call,
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good call by the Chiefs. He was
Speaker 1: a nice player for them, he was. But but we
Speaker 1: never say he was a bust. I think he made
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl or two. I had a nice career there. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was not number one pick Alzheimer, Okay. And Jadeveon
Speaker 1: Clowney to me, has never lived up to the tackle
Speaker 1: he made in the Outback Bowl, although he has made
Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls, yeah, three, So he's not He's not
Speaker 1: the impact player that you know, we thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be. Yes point two thousand and eight, Jake
Speaker 1: Long tackle on a Michigan from Miami. Four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: Nice career. I got to Mario Williams defensive out in
Speaker 1: North Carolina State went to the Houston Texans. That was
Speaker 1: the big debate between Reggie Bush and Mario Williams. Signability Yes,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like we can't sign
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush and the Buffalo Bills take Mario william You're
Speaker 1: going sign ability? Yeah, boy? Then Miles Garrett twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: dot Texas A and m he's, you know, first team
Speaker 1: All Pro he's yeah, he's he's a great player. But
Speaker 1: I you're gonna have that this year where you know,
Speaker 1: do you take the safe pick? Do you take Aidan Hutchinson,
Speaker 1: do you take Trey Von Walker that's gonna be or
Speaker 1: is there a surprise? As Peter King has pointed out
Speaker 1: in his Muddy Morning Quarterback column, all right, we'll get
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up, Seatan, what kind of pulled question
Speaker 1: do you have for me? Well, we could go with
Speaker 1: one that's semi NFL Draft related and that where will
Speaker 1: Deebo end up? See? That to me is going to
Speaker 1: be the big storyline here. There's two storylines that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at. This broke last week when we're on vacation,
Speaker 1: and Deebo's probably looking around going, uh, do you see
Speaker 1: what diary kill got? Did you see what Damante Adam's got. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm every bit what those players are, and he's more
Speaker 1: valuable to his team the Niners, then Tyree Hill and
Speaker 1: Davante Adams were to their teams, And certainly I would
Speaker 1: rank it as Debo and then Davante Adams and Tyree Hill.
Speaker 1: What Deebo did is basically move the chains, Like, what
Speaker 1: do you need me to do? Because I got a
Speaker 1: quarterback who I know all he does is win, But
Speaker 1: I got to run the ball and catch the ball
Speaker 1: and I got to do everything here. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you look at it's been a crazy year for the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, right because if you go back to
Speaker 1: the last draft, where now they were getting mac Jones
Speaker 1: at number three, Yeah, they were getting Mack at number three,
Speaker 1: and then all, no, wait, we got Trey And now
Speaker 1: who is Trey got a start over Jimmy? When are
Speaker 1: we trading Jimmy? Is Jimmy even gonna be on the
Speaker 1: roster in twenty two? From what I was told, there's
Speaker 1: not a trademarket for Jimmy Garoppolo. Now Debo wants out,
Speaker 1: and Debo wants out. Would money solve all of this? Though?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm curious because if I'm Trey Lance, I
Speaker 1: gotta be you know, say in the management and I
Speaker 1: really need deep and here have I gonna be taken
Speaker 1: over a starting quarterback here. So that is one storyline.
Speaker 1: The other one's Baker Mayfield. You know, I'll go with
Speaker 1: my source who said Baker Mayfield. He thinks after the
Speaker 1: first round is when you might see Baker Mayfield traded
Speaker 1: teams if they get their quarterback. How many quarterbacks are taken?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hearing Sam how At North Carolina is
Speaker 1: a and mat Matt Carroll as we talked about. I
Speaker 1: think Kenny Pickett is probably a second round talent. I
Speaker 1: think all these quarterbacks in a normal draft or second
Speaker 1: round talents, but there's no quarterbacks, so somebody's got to
Speaker 1: be the first quarterback off the board. And I think
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield probably gets traded after the first round once teams,
Speaker 1: maybe second round. But you know, when you have that day,
Speaker 1: you know the rest of the night to figure things out,
Speaker 1: and you go, all right, well, who who are we
Speaker 1: taking when we missed out on here? All right, why
Speaker 1: don't you see if we'll get a fourth round draft pick?
Speaker 1: For if I'm Seattle. If you miss out on a quarterback,
Speaker 1: if you're you're looking for one, all right, give him
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick and uh, you know, see if
Speaker 1: they'll split his salary with us or something. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: how about Thursday night, after the first round completes, we
Speaker 1: have the guys nobody wants draft? Well, one round draft
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield could go, Jimmy Garoppolov could go, and
Speaker 1: you have to give up like a fixed price and
Speaker 1: you got a fixed contract. That's good TV. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Baker's gonna have to wait. And look, I know
Speaker 1: this is a click bait when it comes to Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: and it'll stay that way because the Mothership and NFL Network,
Speaker 1: they'll milk it for all it's worth because we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out where Bake. You know, nobody wants Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: it feels like, but everybody wants to talk about Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. Where's it gonna end up? You got a
Speaker 1: trade for him, and then you gotta pay him. That's
Speaker 1: one of those crazy ones. I give your Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Do you end up paying what you would have paid
Speaker 1: Damante Adams? But then you're gonna have to give up
Speaker 1: a couple of first round pick or whatever you're going
Speaker 1: to give up for Gebo Samuel. That's how crazy it
Speaker 1: could turn out. But wide receivers are going to be
Speaker 1: front and center. But I'm gonna guess that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: first pick, and the Jacksonville Jaguars take dray Bon Walker,
Speaker 1: then you go okay, and then the Lions will be
Speaker 1: on the clock with the Lions take Malik Will? Would
Speaker 1: they go that early on a quarterback? Like? These are
Speaker 1: the things. This is how you play it up. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta add to the suspense there. What other poll
Speaker 1: questions do we have today, Seaton? Well, just this is
Speaker 1: a totally random thought that I'm seeing just off of Twitter,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with a poll question. But isn't
Speaker 1: it crazy how comfortable we are? Kyle Kuzma tweeted this.
Speaker 1: I know we're numb to a lot of things, but
Speaker 1: in this society, a seven foot center just cast a
Speaker 1: three to win a playoff game. It's crazy. How many
Speaker 1: super tall you know what formerly would have been big
Speaker 1: men are such great outside shooters, and that it's just
Speaker 1: not even a thought anymore. It's the Dirk Nubitsky effect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you think about twenty years later, Dirk Nuvitski. But
Speaker 1: all so, if you look at how players are developed
Speaker 1: in Europe, they're developed to be either you know, your
Speaker 1: ball handling skills as a seven footer or if you're
Speaker 1: a six footer. They want you to have the fundamentals
Speaker 1: to end to be able to shoot, to be able
Speaker 1: to have great form, be able to shoot free throws
Speaker 1: like these are all important things for those players. And
Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see the trickle down of
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Lmbiid can hit a jumper, Carl Anthony
Speaker 1: Towns can shoot outside, you know the Joker can. There's
Speaker 1: so many of them that can. But you're right, it's
Speaker 1: commonplace now where you go? Man, all right, seven footer
Speaker 1: on the perimeter, who would have thought, yes, seton we
Speaker 1: could go with basically off of our next guests. Maybe
Speaker 1: a little better question for him, which team down three
Speaker 1: and one is most likely to pull off a comeback?
Speaker 1: So you have Atlanta right now, they're down three one
Speaker 1: to the heat, Denver's down to the Warriors, Toronto down
Speaker 1: to the sixers, and then Bowls down three one to
Speaker 1: the walk. Any of them coming back? Well, New Orleans
Speaker 1: is the one series that I'm curious about because it's
Speaker 1: tied to two games apiece. The Devin Booker situation. Could
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson play right? Because we keep saying, well, where's Zion?
Speaker 1: He should be playing, he's dunking and the whole thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, then we're going, now, you can't have him play?
Speaker 1: Aren't they sort of the same that you're saying to
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons? He's been ten days pain free? Shouldn't he play?
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson? Put him in there, Let's bring him back. Yes. See,
Speaker 1: if you had those guys play, aren't you sort of
Speaker 1: setting them up for failure? I get that there's some
Speaker 1: upside to it, but we'll talk about that. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock Act. Brooklyn Nets spent
Speaker 1: big money to acquire stars like Katie and Kyrie Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: Over the last couple of years, all that star power
Speaker 1: has or at least it did, make the Nets a
Speaker 1: favor to win the title. And we've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of teams become championship contenders after acquiring multiple superstars. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the Lakers, you know, look at what the
Speaker 1: La Rams did. You know the Nets first round matchup
Speaker 1: with the Celtics is there's you know, this building a roster.
Speaker 1: Celtics are all homegrown if you look at it. Jason Tatum,
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, Mark is smart, all drafted by Boston. You know,
Speaker 1: you have the Nets trying to throw in Kyrie with
Speaker 1: KD and it's not working. But give credit. What'll get
Speaker 1: lost in this is how great Boston has been this
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Speaker 1: on the call Celtics Nets games one in three and
Speaker 1: joins US. Now what's the big difference in the Celtics
Speaker 1: and Nets and why the Celtics are up in a
Speaker 1: commanding fashion? Well, I thought, actually, Brooklyn played an outstanding
Speaker 1: first two games on the road. They gave themselves chances
Speaker 1: to win in both games. They shot the ball better
Speaker 1: than fifty percent in both games against a great Celtics defense.
Speaker 1: So I really liked the way they played the first
Speaker 1: two games. It was Game three. It was the turnovers
Speaker 1: combined with Durant obviously not playing or Irving playing particularly well,
Speaker 1: and the other guys, the complimentary players around them other
Speaker 1: than Bruce Brown, didn't have good nights either. So it
Speaker 1: was a bad night all the way around, and one
Speaker 1: they could ill afford. Would you sign up Kyrie for
Speaker 1: a long term contract if you're the Nets? Well it's
Speaker 1: tough choices now, you know, because right now their depth
Speaker 1: has been compromised. Joe Harris has been out most of
Speaker 1: the year, so very good for them from a shooting standpoint,
Speaker 1: good rebounder and he's got stability to him. And then
Speaker 1: you know Ben Simmons, if you're gonna say you're gonna
Speaker 1: trade hardened, and in this one year, what you're going
Speaker 1: to get back for Harden is Seth Curry who's hobbled,
Speaker 1: and Andre Drummond. That's a lose from a talent standpoint too.
Speaker 1: So I think you have to look at your roster
Speaker 1: and totality. I know this because guys don't play as
Speaker 1: much now, either minutes in a game or over the
Speaker 1: course of the season. You have to have quality depth,
Speaker 1: and that's what right now the Celtics have built. They've
Speaker 1: built a strong eight nine man rotation, and right now
Speaker 1: that the Nets don't have enough depth due to injury
Speaker 1: to be able to put it together and make a
Speaker 1: championship run. Would you sign Kyrie long term? I'd have
Speaker 1: to look at all those factors, U Dan. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously he's had durability issues for many different reasons, and
Speaker 1: my team has had durability issues. You know. The talent
Speaker 1: is obviously a unique offensive talent to handle and all
Speaker 1: that shot making. He hasn't played very well in the
Speaker 1: last couple of games here after a great second half
Speaker 1: in Game one. Just in general, for getting Kyrie for
Speaker 1: the second I think you always have to ask yourself,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what he'd get let's say, make
Speaker 1: forty million. Are you better getting one forty million dollar
Speaker 1: player or are you better getting you know, not as
Speaker 1: good as the forty million, but having two really good
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar players. I think you have to think
Speaker 1: about how you want to surround Simmons and Durant because
Speaker 1: those two are there, and you know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to build around those two. Let's go back a week
Speaker 1: or so ago, it felt like the nets, you know,
Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, Ben's you know, he's been pain free,
Speaker 1: he's been working out, Like, why why are they setting
Speaker 1: him up to be the fall guy from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of lady not playing again? Why why not just say
Speaker 1: we believe he's out, we're not expecting him to play
Speaker 1: in this series, instead of hey, this could maybe tonight. Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the philosophy unless they're trying to
Speaker 1: kind of push him into come on, let's go, let's play,
Speaker 1: let's let's suck it up here. Well, Dan, I think,
Speaker 1: at least what I've read, those are the sources saying
Speaker 1: that he's you know, on track to play in game four.
Speaker 1: When we've talked to Steve Nash prior to the game
Speaker 1: games that we've done. He's always said, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's too early to say. And so the reports
Speaker 1: that were coming out of whatever camp never matched up
Speaker 1: with what Steve Nash was saying to us, which was,
Speaker 1: hold on, he hasn't even practiced yet. And again, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. People who I think
Speaker 1: it's hard to make these hard and fast pronouncements that
Speaker 1: he's either letting his team down or he's injured, Like
Speaker 1: none of us really know if he's truly injured, if
Speaker 1: it's a mental health situation, or he could play, he's
Speaker 1: just not comfortable to play. And so I find it
Speaker 1: a really odd situation and I certainly am going to
Speaker 1: remain judgment free on him and what he stands for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just feels like and all Steve Nash has to
Speaker 1: say is look, he's not playing, that's it, and that
Speaker 1: if he does come back, then we would have said,
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, you know, hey, he's progressing farther along
Speaker 1: like Zion Williamson. Why is Zion not playing? I mean
Speaker 1: he can can. He played fifteen minutes, ten minutes, twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: Why why would you not put him back in or
Speaker 1: why is he not being put back in. Well, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting question right there. If he's I think, right now, Phoenix,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think New Orleans is going to win
Speaker 1: that series once Booker went out and let's say he
Speaker 1: can't come back, I think they have even though they
Speaker 1: were ten games under five hundred during the regular season
Speaker 1: and Phoenix was sixty four and eighteen. I think offensive
Speaker 1: talent wise, New Orleans has the better team with the
Speaker 1: addition of McCollum and Valanciunas in the off season. But
Speaker 1: if you throw in Zion for fifteen minutes a game
Speaker 1: off the bench, I mean, then I think they become
Speaker 1: the prohibitive favorite over these last three games. So I've
Speaker 1: got to believe that, you know, Williamson just isn't healthy
Speaker 1: enough to play, because why wouldn't you want to play
Speaker 1: if you were healthy enough in the playoffs. But I
Speaker 1: also look back to Michael Jordan's second year in the league.
Speaker 1: He breaks his foot. If we fast forward to now,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan doesn't play in the playoffs, probably, I mean,
Speaker 1: and really that was his coming out party when he
Speaker 1: faced the Celtics in the Garden and had that dominating
Speaker 1: series and they lost. But now it's about caution, load management,
Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm just curious and it's not Hey,
Speaker 1: the guys in my day era were tougher. It's just
Speaker 1: the philosophy I think is different than it used to be. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely different. But it's not just different in the playoffs, Dan,
Speaker 1: you know that. It's it's different in how you work
Speaker 1: at the summer. Sometimes I think we take more pride
Speaker 1: in how we work out in the summer than how
Speaker 1: we play in the winter. Um. I always hear about
Speaker 1: guys having great summers. I used to make We used
Speaker 1: to make light of one guy when in UH back
Speaker 1: in the late nineties early two thousands that we competed against.
Speaker 1: All they ever would say about him was what a
Speaker 1: great summer we had? This guy had always say, well,
Speaker 1: how about having a great April and day for money?
Speaker 1: You know, I just think there's a lot different. Caution
Speaker 1: is uh is a word that you know, is you know,
Speaker 1: very InVogue. And I think the one thing that used
Speaker 1: to be asked was well, if this was a playoff game,
Speaker 1: could he go that's that's out now too, Like, it's
Speaker 1: just different. It's not different bad or good. The league
Speaker 1: looks at playing through things much differently than fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. That may be good or that may be bad.
Speaker 1: It depends on your perspective. Talking to Jeff Van Gundy,
Speaker 1: the analyst for ESPN and ABC, I brought this up
Speaker 1: with Commissioners Silver a couple of weeks ago, where I said,
Speaker 1: how about you just say you got to play in
Speaker 1: a certain number of games or certain number of minutes
Speaker 1: to qualify for first team, second team, third Team, All NBA,
Speaker 1: all your postseason awards. You have to check in at
Speaker 1: a certain level. Therefore, you know you're going to get
Speaker 1: those players because of all the bonuses that are attached
Speaker 1: to first second, third team, or winning the MVP or
Speaker 1: Defensive Player that year, all of those things. What do
Speaker 1: you think of that idea? Love the idea, unfortunately, because
Speaker 1: like you just said, bonuses are tied to it all.
Speaker 1: You'd have to work that out with the players Association
Speaker 1: and they're never going to give on that. But I
Speaker 1: do think going forward in the next collective bargaining, you
Speaker 1: have to I know it sounds strange because you don't
Speaker 1: give incentives in other professions to show up at work,
Speaker 1: Like hey, today, if you show up at work, we're
Speaker 1: going to give you the chance to be all first
Speaker 1: team fire Department. But in this situation, the way the
Speaker 1: trends are heading, and I think in a negative way
Speaker 1: as far as for fans, they really don't know oftentimes
Speaker 1: going to a game, buying tickets for a game, tune,
Speaker 1: and into a game, who's going to play. So I
Speaker 1: think to give extra incentive to either games played minutes
Speaker 1: played for all the awards, I think is an outstanding
Speaker 1: idea that I think the commissioner should think very long
Speaker 1: about trying to include in the next collective bargaining agreement.
Speaker 1: I think you should be able to buy Star insurance
Speaker 1: so you play an overage on your ticket and let's
Speaker 1: say you're showing up to see Steph Curry and he
Speaker 1: doesn't play and you get your money back, or Luca.
Speaker 1: You're showing up to see Luca and you know you've
Speaker 1: got that in that Star insurance. What do you think?
Speaker 1: I like it. I think it's also unfortunate that we're
Speaker 1: having that conversation, you know, but I listen, I do
Speaker 1: think we have to protect the customer and the consumer.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're on this high that you know, people
Speaker 1: are watching, they're excited about NBA basketball, but we can
Speaker 1: never take for granted the fans and that they drive
Speaker 1: the freight. And I don't think Adam Silver takes him
Speaker 1: for granted. I hope we as teams and as a
Speaker 1: league don't take him for granted because once you're not
Speaker 1: giving them the product they think is warranted for the price,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they're gonna they're gonna spend their money elsewhere.
Speaker 1: So I think we have to have I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's insurance, and I think Dan, I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but I think fans understand the difference between
Speaker 1: legit injury and just taking a night off when they
Speaker 1: choose to take a night off. Yeah, but we can't
Speaker 1: ask that question, Jeff. We're not allowed to ask Ben Simmons, Hey,
Speaker 1: where don't you playing? So you're not unfortunately because now
Speaker 1: even and it used to, hey listen, the media is
Speaker 1: a lot different to Dan. You used to be held
Speaker 1: account after every game. You didn't get a choice, you know,
Speaker 1: the reporters were allowed into the locker room and you
Speaker 1: could run away, but it was it was harder back
Speaker 1: back then to run away. Now with the zooms, teams
Speaker 1: don't make people available. They don't have to answer for
Speaker 1: either their playoff in times. And that's why I admire
Speaker 1: the players that winner loss, good game or bad game.
Speaker 1: They stand before the media and they're not just there
Speaker 1: when they're giving them praise. They're there when they're taking
Speaker 1: on hard questions. And that's why I admired what duranted.
Speaker 1: It had to be hard, you know, after game three,
Speaker 1: to be disappointed in the result in your own play,
Speaker 1: but to stand there and take it. That's what part
Speaker 1: of your pay is for, your responsibility is for. But
Speaker 1: now it's harder, and frankly, a lot of the questions
Speaker 1: are more softballish because they are relying on players and
Speaker 1: the players agents for leaks and sources off the record.
Speaker 1: So a lot has changed in the climate of how
Speaker 1: the game is covered too. Is James Harden getting old
Speaker 1: right before our very eyes? Well? I think he certainly
Speaker 1: hasn't played to the MVP level that we're accustomed to,
Speaker 1: and that was in Brooklyn and in Philly, But I
Speaker 1: would not underestimate his greatness. I think I always thought
Speaker 1: the dynamic between he and embid were was going to
Speaker 1: be a challenge because Harden has a style that's very
Speaker 1: unique in how he dominates the ball and ebid when
Speaker 1: they play through him, whether it's in the high post,
Speaker 1: the elbow or the low post, is absolutely dominant. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a hard dance to master. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: they played together exceptionally well. I think they fit together
Speaker 1: better than I thought. I just don't think Harden has
Speaker 1: been as efficient from a shooting standpoint as they need
Speaker 1: him to be if they're going to win it all.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this bigger disappointment this season, the
Speaker 1: Lakers or the Nets. Well, I think it all is
Speaker 1: where you're you start with your expectations. I never thought
Speaker 1: the Lakers were good, Like I didn't understand the hype
Speaker 1: for their team. You know they were there. They have
Speaker 1: an often injured team. They took away and stripped down
Speaker 1: all depth, and I think depth is incredibly important in
Speaker 1: today's NBA because of games missed and people don't play
Speaker 1: big minutes. So my expectations for the Lakers, I can't
Speaker 1: say I didn't think they'd make the play in. I
Speaker 1: thought they would be, you know, an eight, nine, ten
Speaker 1: type of team, but I'm not disappointed. I thought their
Speaker 1: roster was not very good. The Nets, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: I thought going into the year before you knew about
Speaker 1: Irving's vaccination status and the inability to play Hardens. I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be discontent, and all
Speaker 1: of that being said January, I think it was twenty third.
Speaker 1: The Nets were in first place in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: at twenty nine and sixteen, and then Durrant's injury wiped
Speaker 1: them out. So you took you know, Irving's vaccination status,
Speaker 1: Harden's discontent, which led to Simmons not being able to play,
Speaker 1: Joe Harris being out all year, then Rant. They just
Speaker 1: got hit with a tidal wave of roster issues that
Speaker 1: truly could not be overcome. And I think Boston is
Speaker 1: the best team in the NBA. I think they will
Speaker 1: win it if they can stay healthy. I think they're
Speaker 1: that good defensively and roster construction wise. And so I
Speaker 1: think they got a horrible first round opponent as well.
Speaker 1: So everything that could go wrong so far for the
Speaker 1: Nets has gone wrong. What's the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 1: Let me look here my Mount Killing and Garol picture. Dan.
Speaker 1: I climbed Mount Killing Majaro about eight years ago. And
Speaker 1: when I say I whimpered to the finish line, I
Speaker 1: basically had to be dragged to the finish line because
Speaker 1: we made a midnight walk up was the last day,
Speaker 1: on like two hours sleep, and the guys who were
Speaker 1: our guides, they basically told the friend I did it with,
Speaker 1: you got to go up and see your guy. He's
Speaker 1: having a mental breakdown because at like four am, in
Speaker 1: the cold of Mount killing Majaro, I was ready to break.
Speaker 1: Did you cry? I didn't, but literally if it had
Speaker 1: been five more steps, I might have. And then the
Speaker 1: climb down was actually harder than the climb up, and
Speaker 1: they were just dragging me down. I mean they were
Speaker 1: just like, this dude is weak minded, and I was
Speaker 1: so you know that I made it all the way
Speaker 1: to the top. Just you know, I worked for this
Speaker 1: guy id and like long ago named Gordon Jaza was
Speaker 1: a longtime assistant with the Utah Jazz, but I worked
Speaker 1: with him at Providence College and he used to always
Speaker 1: tell players, despite yourself, you're gonna be great like because
Speaker 1: and that was me on that climb, despite myself, I
Speaker 1: made it to the top. I never understood why we
Speaker 1: don't celebrate the sherpas more. You know, Sir Edmund Hillary,
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about you. It's the sherpa
Speaker 1: who was carrying all your gear. Listen, I could have
Speaker 1: paid I think it was like one hundred more bucks
Speaker 1: for them, not so I didn't have to carry the
Speaker 1: fifty pound backpack that I was carrying. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: waste money all the time. I didn't spend it on that,
Speaker 1: all right, because I was trying to be tough. That
Speaker 1: was stupid. But what used to kill me is we
Speaker 1: would get up in the morning. I think we're flying
Speaker 1: up on this hike, and these dudes are breaking down
Speaker 1: the camp and they're like sprinting bias and there they
Speaker 1: finished the next day's camp. They had to be there
Speaker 1: two hours early. They're cooking. I'm like, how do they do?
Speaker 1: These people are super human? Well, congratulations on not crying.
Speaker 1: I want to say this because my friend is probably
Speaker 1: if he listens to you every days, he's out there
Speaker 1: listening Chris Loman and he's saying, yeah, but he almost did.
Speaker 1: I almost had it, yeah, barely. You are a warrior.
Speaker 1: Hashtag warrior yeh, hashtag weak minded. Thank you, Jeff, Safe
Speaker 1: travels and we appreciate your time. All right, take care damn.
Speaker 1: That's Jeff and Gundhi of the Mother's ship. Yeah. These sherpas, man,
Speaker 1: those are the stars. Oh and let's celebrate Sir Edmund
Speaker 1: and Hillary the first man too in lame like the sherpa.
Speaker 1: Sherpa did all the damn work all Sir Edmund. Hillary
Speaker 1: did his comb his hair when he got to the
Speaker 1: top and said, all right, how do I look for
Speaker 1: my photo opportunity? Yeah? Yeah, I paid for this trip. See.
Speaker 1: Is there any group of people are like at a
Speaker 1: job or a position more underappreciated than the sherpa? Yeah,
Speaker 1: more underrecognized? Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: for sure, it'd be nice. Peter King joins us right now.
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, columnist NBC Sports dot Com. Best
Speaker 1: show on TV to you, Peter is what? Uh? Great
Speaker 1: British Baking Show? Okay, I don't know. I like the
Speaker 1: Great British Baking Show. It's a great show. Been been
Speaker 1: on a long time. Yeah, and uh, look we're we're
Speaker 1: We're not. I've missed so many of these shows. It's
Speaker 1: almost intimidating when you start to when somebody says, hey,
Speaker 1: have you seen this? This, and this. I haven't even
Speaker 1: seen Breaking Bad yet. Oh, I mean, I got a
Speaker 1: long way to go. I'm stuck on the Sopranos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then if you do Breaking Bad, you got to
Speaker 1: do better, call Saul. Yeah, you know, so that's the
Speaker 1: prequel to that. Yeah, you got a lot. Well, you're
Speaker 1: always working, Pete, You're always on the football. Not really,
Speaker 1: I'm not really, Dan. Life is a little bit slowed
Speaker 1: down now around draft time. Life stinks because you just
Speaker 1: get competitive and you want to get as many of
Speaker 1: these right as you can, and it's eminently frustrating. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I got a big, big sigh of relief today because
Speaker 1: there's nothing else I can do right now. Okay, if
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna give you a crystal ball and
Speaker 1: you could find out what this one team would be
Speaker 1: doing for the draft, the entire draft, what team would
Speaker 1: that be that you would want to know? You know,
Speaker 1: it's a weird team because I'd really want to know
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers because I have a feeling at twenty
Speaker 1: they're gonna go quarterback. I said Kenny Pickett. Won't shock
Speaker 1: me at all if they go Malik Willis. But Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: is such an interesting team because they are They take
Speaker 1: great pride in hiding everything that they do, and I
Speaker 1: applaud them for that. You know, secrets really don't get
Speaker 1: out of that building. I'd probably be most curious about
Speaker 1: what the Steelers are going to do at twenty. I
Speaker 1: know that you hinted at maybe a surprise at the
Speaker 1: top of the draft. I saw where the new betting
Speaker 1: favorite according to Las Vegas, is a Trayvon Walker out
Speaker 1: of Georgia. Is that a surprise to you, Well, I've
Speaker 1: been hearing it for a couple of weeks now, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's that big a surprise. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to happen, Dan, but I think
Speaker 1: that you know, the guy who's got the most power
Speaker 1: in that building, honestly is Trent Bulky. He always has
Speaker 1: been a tools guy with you know, at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft, you saw what he did, and it's
Speaker 1: Alden Smith is used as the great comparison because he
Speaker 1: picked Alden Smith over JJ Watt. If Alden Smith didn't
Speaker 1: have all the problems that he had in his personal life,
Speaker 1: he could have been he could have had the impact
Speaker 1: long term that JJ Watt has had could he have
Speaker 1: won three D poise? Probably not, but he could have
Speaker 1: been a great player. And so I think, and I
Speaker 1: think there is something to it. Some of the plays
Speaker 1: you've seen Trayvon Walker make on tape are incredible, but
Speaker 1: you know, he has not made nearly the number of
Speaker 1: plays that Aiden Hutchinson has made in his college career.
Speaker 1: And that is what is really kind of a different
Speaker 1: deal right now. And I had a source tell me
Speaker 1: that hutch Pinson is the safer pick. Walker has the
Speaker 1: higher ceiling here. Yeah, and I wonder about that. You
Speaker 1: know what Chris Long, Well, Chris Long was the second
Speaker 1: pick overall out of Virginia and wasn't he considered a
Speaker 1: safe pick for the Rams? Now, I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good comparison because he basically was the guy who,
Speaker 1: you know who, who everybody thought was the safest pick. Now,
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson, you might call him a safe pick, but man,
Speaker 1: he had He's made some explosive plays in college too.
Speaker 1: I I personally think that Aidan Hutchinson will have the
Speaker 1: longer and better career. But Dan, if you asked me
Speaker 1: what player in this draft five years from now, we're
Speaker 1: going to look back and say, well, that is the
Speaker 1: best player out of this, I'd say it's Derek Stingley,
Speaker 1: and Derek Stingley could last past ten. Yeah. I loved
Speaker 1: him his freshman year. In fact, I took to ed
Speaker 1: Orgeron I said I could see him winning the Heisman,
Speaker 1: having him be a two way player. I was that
Speaker 1: impressed with him the freshman his freshman year. And it
Speaker 1: was a while ago that I had a source say
Speaker 1: sauce Gardner is a top five pick, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: and then you started to watch Cincinnati and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it feels like sauce Gardner could be
Speaker 1: a top ten, maybe a top five pick. So you
Speaker 1: like Stingley over Gardner, Well, I like him over the
Speaker 1: long term better, but I think that sauce Gardner going
Speaker 1: before him is probably going to happen, and it's justified.
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner basically has played eleven hundred snaps of past
Speaker 1: coverage in his college career and in single coverage did
Speaker 1: not allow one touchdown. And how do you not want
Speaker 1: to pick him? I mean, obviously it gets tougher at
Speaker 1: the next level, but to me, I think what he
Speaker 1: is right now is he's more of a sure thing.
Speaker 1: And somebody described to me over the weekend. Uh, somebody
Speaker 1: described Stingley is Durrell Reeves. And and I think the
Speaker 1: one thing about Stingley that people say is that he
Speaker 1: is a very confident player, and that confidence is justified
Speaker 1: by how he plays. And one other thing. Did he
Speaker 1: practiced probably seventy five to one hundred times day to
Speaker 1: day covering Jamar Chase in twenty nineteen, and you know,
Speaker 1: like that's as tough as it gets. And so I
Speaker 1: think he's trained well. He had a foot injury obviously
Speaker 1: last year, and that's better. I think. I think. I
Speaker 1: think Stingley is going to be a real good pro.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Peter King football morning in America. I
Speaker 1: know you're joining us from Berkeley, California. How big of
Speaker 1: his story is, Deebo Samuel. I mean, it's a huge story,
Speaker 1: especially if he sticks to his guns and he says
Speaker 1: he wants out and he's not going to back down.
Speaker 1: As you know, Dan, about twenty five percent if that
Speaker 1: of guys who ever say I want out, I'm not
Speaker 1: playing here ever again, blah blah blah. I mean guys
Speaker 1: say that all the time and then five months later,
Speaker 1: they're back in camp, or they're back playing for the
Speaker 1: team they said they never play with again. So I
Speaker 1: don't I don't mean that I think Deebo Samuel is
Speaker 1: lying or anything like that. I just think that opinions change,
Speaker 1: opinions become less hardened over time. And whether the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers are going to do something, I'd be really
Speaker 1: surprised if they did something by the draft this week.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Why does he want out? I don't
Speaker 1: know the answer to that, And I think that people,
Speaker 1: excuse me, people who know him say that he's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a homebody and that this very
Speaker 1: well could be about the fact that he just wants
Speaker 1: to be closer to South Carolina, you know where he's
Speaker 1: you know, the Carolinas whereezed from. But I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how hardened he is in his position, And
Speaker 1: it just it seems a little odd too, because a
Speaker 1: year ago, you know, Mike MCDANIELI then the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: said if you do everything I tell you, you're going
Speaker 1: to be first team All Pro. And he did everything
Speaker 1: that McDaniel told him to do, and he was first
Speaker 1: team All Pro. And I personally wonder about the absence
Speaker 1: of the guy who even he said Deebo said is
Speaker 1: his favorite coach that he's ever had. So, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if that plays into it. Baker Mayfield more
Speaker 1: likely to get traded during the draft or after the draft.
Speaker 1: I think it wouldn't make any sense to me. First
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know what you really get for
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I keep wondering could this be a brock
Speaker 1: Osweiler kind of trade. It's a weird it's a weird
Speaker 1: situation that they're in. Everybody knows that he can't go
Speaker 1: back there, but you don't want to make him just
Speaker 1: a free agent. As Jeff Darlington said last week, Mike
Speaker 1: Florio has been talking about it for weeks that the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers would just go ahead and sign him. How
Speaker 1: weird would it be if the Steelers take Picketer Willis
Speaker 1: at number twenty and they've got Mitchell Turbiski on their
Speaker 1: team and two weeks later signed Baker Mayfield with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns paying their paying his salary. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't think the Browns are going to release him, because
Speaker 1: they want to have some control over where he goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder what he's worth, and then is Cleveland gonna
Speaker 1: have to pick up the tab with his salary? Do
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna have to pick up most if
Speaker 1: not all? Because they're the ones that said we're going
Speaker 1: to pick up the option. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: teams that have the cap space to do it now anyway.
Speaker 1: I just don't see any way right now that that
Speaker 1: they can get away with making a deal for him
Speaker 1: without picking up most of the salary. How difficult is
Speaker 1: it to try to do a mock draft and factor
Speaker 1: in the draft history of certain teams. Certain teams are
Speaker 1: really good at drafting, and certain teams are not. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Dan, the thing I thought was hardest about
Speaker 1: this year. I wish I had written about it because
Speaker 1: I thought about it a few times. Look at all
Speaker 1: of the people near the top of the draft who
Speaker 1: have no draft history, are very little. You know, Trent
Speaker 1: Bulky has some, which is helpful. Brad Holmes in Detroit
Speaker 1: at number two. Dan Campbell, they have virtually no draft history.
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, he's got three and thirteen, virtually no draft history.
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas at four and ten, a little draft history.
Speaker 1: Joe Shane five and seven, no draft history whatsoever. I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's one of the things you can't say, well,
Speaker 1: you know three years ago, this GM did this and this.
Speaker 1: There are so many new and neophyte general managers who
Speaker 1: were in control of this draft. That's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why it's so hard to figure it out. Pete,
Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us
Speaker 1: and save travels. Hey appreciate it. Dan, thank you. That's
Speaker 1: Peter King Football Morning in America and you can get
Speaker 1: it every Monday morning NBC Sports dot Com. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would think Deebo Samuel, if he's going to be traded,
Speaker 1: he'd be traded prior to the draft. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe after Day two of the draft, some team goes, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give fourth round pick Baker Mayfield. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's gonna be a curveball somewhere. There
Speaker 1: always is. There's always a team where you go, what
Speaker 1: are they thinking, and it's somebody going up, somebody reaches
Speaker 1: for somebody. There's always going to be that team that
Speaker 1: takes a player. Because if you go back and look
Speaker 1: at these drafts, whenever you see a mock draft, you go, oh,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. They don't always make sense, but in
Speaker 1: the in the moment, you go, okay, I can all right,
Speaker 1: I can see that you get talked into it, and
Speaker 1: it's just that's not reality. If you get seven and
Speaker 1: correct in the first round, you're probably doing pretty well
Speaker 1: because all it takes is one team does something that
Speaker 1: changes everything when you're trying to do a mock draft.
Speaker 1: So I don't look at mock drafts other than let
Speaker 1: me see who's held in high regard and also introduced
Speaker 1: me to some of these players that maybe I didn't
Speaker 1: follow that much in college. That's what I look at
Speaker 1: with the mock drafts. I don't go, boy, this is
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. Way you guys miss that
Speaker 1: you're wrong. It's really difficult to handicap this because these
Speaker 1: teams don't tell you the truth. Now you're going to
Speaker 1: rely on sources close to sources. Somebody's saying I'm thinking, yeah, pauling,
Speaker 1: And if you go back out, here's one that was
Speaker 1: a curveball. The twenty nineteen draft, I think the New
Speaker 1: York Giants had a sixth pick and they had oh man,
Speaker 1: maybe like the twentieth pick, and everyone thought with the
Speaker 1: twentieth pick, maybe they'll take Daniel Jones out of Duke.
Speaker 1: They liked them, they liked them, and all the mock
Speaker 1: drafts I'm looking at right up to the drafts had
Speaker 1: had maybe Daniel Jones going later in the first round
Speaker 1: to the Giants or another team, and then with a
Speaker 1: sixth pick they take him way earlier they weren't expected,
Speaker 1: which throw off the whole draft. After that, well, it was,
Speaker 1: you know, the Bears trading up to get Mitchell Trubisky
Speaker 1: because you're going, wait a minute, what is going on here,
Speaker 1: Mitchell l You're trading to get up to get him.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have to trade up to get him.
Speaker 1: You could have had him. That That was the one
Speaker 1: where I went, oh my god, I should have watched
Speaker 1: more ACC football. And then Daniel Jones and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: i gotta start watching ACC football. So I watched Sam
Speaker 1: Howell this year. I'm ready ACC football. And I still
Speaker 1: think the value that you could get with Matt Carroll
Speaker 1: or Sam Howe is going to be the same as
Speaker 1: you could get for Kenny Pickett. I really feel then,
Speaker 1: But all it takes is one person. It's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. Just go wait, what do you what are
Speaker 1: you guys doing? Barry and Nafa Hi Berry, thanks for
Speaker 1: holding best and worst. Good morning fellas, and good morning
Speaker 1: chat Row. Best of the weekend, My New York Mets
Speaker 1: winning five consecutive series. The pitching is awesome. We're getting
Speaker 1: two out RBIs all of this without Jacob deGrom Worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend if I hear twenty seven rings one
Speaker 1: more time from those dopey Yankee fans, classless louts who
Speaker 1: have disgraced the great name of New York City. Enough
Speaker 1: of them. Thank you Berry, Thank you Jack in Dallas, Ni, Jack,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? First time a long time?
Speaker 1: Five nine. I want to get your take on if
Speaker 1: you believe that Steve Nass is on the hot seat
Speaker 1: potentially next year if they don't get past the first round.
Speaker 1: And I want to I want to see if I
Speaker 1: can make a guess about golf for you're at okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Vintage Club. No, no, it's the Madison Club. It's
Speaker 1: the name of the place. It's right across the street
Speaker 1: from Coachella, so you could play eighteen and then walk
Speaker 1: over and see Harry Styles with Lizzo. I you know
Speaker 1: my wife and I went. We drove by and it's
Speaker 1: like a two hour queue to get in, and I
Speaker 1: just I don't I wouldn't have the energy to do it.
Speaker 1: As much as I'd love to go see some of
Speaker 1: the bands, I just don't have the energy to get
Speaker 1: in to see the band. Yeah. More festivals sound terrible,
Speaker 1: by the way, like just being outside and then you're
Speaker 1: just waiting and it's hot, and oh, when's Lizzo gonna
Speaker 1: come out? But my daughter said that Coachella is so stressful,
Speaker 1: and I said why she goes all the outfit changes
Speaker 1: that I had, and I go, what what the outfit changes?
Speaker 1: Can I wear this crown of daisies with this outfit?
Speaker 1: I just don't know. It's hard, Okay,