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Play of the day, stat of the day, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.319 poll question, all of that forthcoming the former coach now 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.320 analyst for the Mothership Jeff Van Gundy in a couple 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.479 of minutes Peter King, NBC Sports. He will join us 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.120 a little bit later on Peter hinting maybe the Jags 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.360 do something interesting, maybe a surprise at the number one 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.360 overall pick. We'll talk about that coming up in a moment. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.120 Here are the details eight seven seven three d P 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.360 Show email address, DPA dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.959 at DPS show Setan will provide us with a poll question, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.240 and your input is always welcome. Pelicans, Sons tied at 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:17.160 two games, Apiece, Bucks, Nuggets and Heat all win tonight, Celtics, Nets, Raptors, 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.600 seventy six Ers, Jazz and the Mavericks. We'll talk about 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.399 that with Jeff Van Gundy here in a moment. We 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.720 start draft week now normally during draft week, as we 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.520 get ready on that Monday, we go, boy, this is 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.480 gonna be interesting because we're gonna go who's going number one, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.080 who's going number two? Any trades, what's going to happen here? 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.000 You know, you always have those moments where you go, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.480 I didn't see that one coming. So when you say, 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.680 or I'm gonna say, or I've thought, I don't know 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.320 how much buzz there is with this draft. And because 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.000 we don't have the Marquis quarterbacks, we don't even have 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.720 we have a lot of wide receivers. You don't even 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.240 have that edge rusher that you go, boy, he's gonna 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.040 be great. This is one of those drafts where you go, yeah, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.480 all right, we got a couple of wide receivers, he 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.080 got some offensive lineman, you got a great defensive back 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:12.520 or two. Not a lot of headline making moments here, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.640 we don't have that Trevor Lawrence player in this draft. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.720 That doesn't mean something wild won't happen. After all the 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.240 drafts in Vegas, who knows, you could say and such 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:29.359 and such selects such and such is he? Here is he? Here? 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.080 It is Vegas. But you go into the week and 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.720 you go, Okay, what are the possibilities here? Because there'll 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.680 be a team where you go, oh, boy, like the 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.160 Niners with Trey Lance, Wow, I didn't see that one coming. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.919 Or will the Falcons take a quarterback? Denver didn't take 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.560 a quarterback? That means that they're going to be taking 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:55.359 Aaron Rodgers. They're gonna trade him. Patriots Bill Belichick, Oh, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.200 he found his Tom Brady, His Tom Brady, Matt Jones. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:04.519 There's always something there and it'll be the same this year, guaranteed. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.760 And it might be a player that you're not that 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.040 familiar with. It might be a backstory you're not familiar with. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.520 It might be a team that reaches a team that 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.560 you know, all of a sudden has somebody fall right 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.120 into their laps. There could be a trade. Do the 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.880 Steelers take Kenny Pick? Do they take Malik Willis? By 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.720 the way. And I've said this over the years, but 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.000 you know we still buy into it. Nobody tells you 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.320 the truth, no one. Why would they unless they want 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.720 to give you information. You know what the culprits are 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.240 the agents, because the agents ago, hey, you you want 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.120 some information. I'm hearing this. That's why I don't trust 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.960 the agents. You know, I do have some sources. Uh, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.920 you know, I have a source who's a scout who said, hey, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.520 this is what I'm hearing. With Jacksonville at the top, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.000 you know they're gonna go with the guy who's either 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.920 the safe pick in Hutchinson at Michigan or Trayvon Walker, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.120 the edge rusher defensive player out of Georgia who has 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.000 a higher ceiling. That that's when I'm hearing. And plus 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.320 he went through all the particulars with these players, being 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.760 able to talk to them or examine them or watch 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.359 their workouts. So I trust his information. He's also the 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.000 one that told me that the Cleveland Browns were going 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.279 to take Baker Mayfield, a story that we had before 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.720 anybody else did. But a lot of people have agendas, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.560 and a lot of people want to give you information, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.240 but they want to help out their client. I'll go 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.839 back to when I was hosting the NBA Draft on 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.600 the mother Ship and I had an agent come up 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.760 to me and said, are you going to address the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.919 knee injuries? Who was the kid out of Washington State 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:50.320 drafted by Portland, Brandon Roy. Yeah. So he says, you're gonna, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.520 you guys gonna talk about the needs and I said, well, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.599 I'll leave that to my analyst, you know, but he goes, yeah, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.280 I mean, he won't stay in the league that long 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.840 got bad knees. So then you know, you start asking 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.360 your analysts there said, hey, how is Brandon Roy? You know, 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.120 he could be Rookie of the Year. One of my 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.160 analysts said, I said, does he have you know, knee issues? Yeah, 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.479 but I don't don't know the severity of it. I said, well, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.560 I just had somebody who said, hey, you know, he's 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.880 got like a degenerative knee and issue. And I was told, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.520 you're going to get a lot of that from agents 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.839 or people close to agents, sources closed to So it's 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.360 a game that's played. And I've been used before where 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.159 somebody will tell you something and you go, no, no, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.760 I got it on a good good you know, a 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.640 good authority, and then you realize, oh, I think I 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.279 got played. And having been at the Mothership for eighteen years, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.320 I saw that happen to our analysts, you know, even 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.000 as great as like Peter Gammon's I remember he was 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.640 given information about the next head coach I think for 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.520 Tampa Bay and it turned out that it wasn't true. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.479 But you know, somebody was trying to help their client. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.200 I mean, it's it's a game, and that's why you 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.400 get a little closer, maybe you know, Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.680 Then you start to hear a little bit more information. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.960 Then it starts to get a little bit more serious. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.719 But all this stuff leading up to it, all these 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.520 mock drafts, all of that stuff that's for entertainment purposes only. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.880 And what I've found is it does introduce you to 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.720 certain players that you might not be aware of, like 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.599 Sauce Gardener. I was told by a scout that guy's 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.080 a top five pick. And I even talked to my 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.640 source yesterday and I said, is Sauce Gardner is still 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.480 going to be a top five pick? He goes he 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.560 could be the best player in the draft, Cincinnati defensive back. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.280 But my source said the best player doesn't always go 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.800 number one. Keep that in mind because a lot of 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.240 times there'll be somebody who's better, or have a longer 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.799 career or more of an impact, but quarterbacks are normally taken. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.359 How many times in the last twenty years have we 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.880 had a draft where we didn't have a quarterback take 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.680 in number one overall? Because I can remember Jadeveon Clowney, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:11.200 Eric Fisher, Oh, good call out of Central Michigan. Yeah call, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.000 It wasn't a good call by the Chiefs. He was 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.000 a nice player for them, he was. But but we 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.400 never say he was a bust. I think he made 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.600 a Pro Bowl or two. I had a nice career there. Okay, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.320 he was not number one pick Alzheimer, Okay. And Jadeveon 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.360 Clowney to me, has never lived up to the tackle 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.160 he made in the Outback Bowl, although he has made 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.120 three Pro Bowls, yeah, three, So he's not He's not 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.480 the impact player that you know, we thought he was 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.440 going to be. Yes point two thousand and eight, Jake 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.400 Long tackle on a Michigan from Miami. Four Pro Bowls. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.960 Nice career. I got to Mario Williams defensive out in 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.440 North Carolina State went to the Houston Texans. That was 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.920 the big debate between Reggie Bush and Mario Williams. Signability Yes, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.880 and then all of a sudden, like we can't sign 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.600 Reggie Bush and the Buffalo Bills take Mario william You're 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.640 going sign ability? Yeah, boy? Then Miles Garrett twenty seventeen 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.720 dot Texas A and m he's, you know, first team 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.840 All Pro he's yeah, he's he's a great player. But 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.560 I you're gonna have that this year where you know, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.520 do you take the safe pick? Do you take Aidan Hutchinson, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.040 do you take Trey Von Walker that's gonna be or 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.280 is there a surprise? As Peter King has pointed out 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.480 in his Muddy Morning Quarterback column, all right, we'll get 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.920 phone calls coming up, Seatan, what kind of pulled question 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.840 do you have for me? Well, we could go with 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 one that's semi NFL Draft related and that where will 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.040 Deebo end up? See? That to me is going to 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.319 be the big storyline here. There's two storylines that I'm 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.880 looking at. This broke last week when we're on vacation, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.720 and Deebo's probably looking around going, uh, do you see 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.559 what diary kill got? Did you see what Damante Adam's got. Um, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.760 I'm every bit what those players are, and he's more 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.280 valuable to his team the Niners, then Tyree Hill and 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.520 Davante Adams were to their teams, And certainly I would 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.120 rank it as Debo and then Davante Adams and Tyree Hill. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.040 What Deebo did is basically move the chains, Like, what 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.120 do you need me to do? Because I got a 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.880 quarterback who I know all he does is win, But 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.960 I got to run the ball and catch the ball 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.640 and I got to do everything here. Yeah, but if 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.120 you look at it's been a crazy year for the 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.800 forty nine ers, right because if you go back to 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.720 the last draft, where now they were getting mac Jones 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.040 at number three, Yeah, they were getting Mack at number three, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.760 and then all, no, wait, we got Trey And now 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.800 who is Trey got a start over Jimmy? When are 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.079 we trading Jimmy? Is Jimmy even gonna be on the 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.440 roster in twenty two? From what I was told, there's 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.199 not a trademarket for Jimmy Garoppolo. Now Debo wants out, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:52.000 and Debo wants out. Would money solve all of this? Though? 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.080 That's what I'm curious because if I'm Trey Lance, I 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.920 gotta be you know, say in the management and I 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.960 really need deep and here have I gonna be taken 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.600 over a starting quarterback here. So that is one storyline. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.079 The other one's Baker Mayfield. You know, I'll go with 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:14.000 my source who said Baker Mayfield. He thinks after the 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.720 first round is when you might see Baker Mayfield traded 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.640 teams if they get their quarterback. How many quarterbacks are taken? 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.960 You know, I'm hearing Sam how At North Carolina is 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.760 a and mat Matt Carroll as we talked about. I 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.800 think Kenny Pickett is probably a second round talent. I 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.920 think all these quarterbacks in a normal draft or second 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:40.360 round talents, but there's no quarterbacks, so somebody's got to 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.760 be the first quarterback off the board. And I think 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.560 Baker Mayfield probably gets traded after the first round once teams, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:51.320 maybe second round. But you know, when you have that day, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.880 you know the rest of the night to figure things out, 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.680 and you go, all right, well, who who are we 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.360 taking when we missed out on here? All right, why 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.200 don't you see if we'll get a fourth round draft pick? 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.960 For if I'm Seattle. If you miss out on a quarterback, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.480 if you're you're looking for one, all right, give him 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.480 a fourth round pick and uh, you know, see if 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.880 they'll split his salary with us or something. Yeah, Paul, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.160 how about Thursday night, after the first round completes, we 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.400 have the guys nobody wants draft? Well, one round draft 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.280 and Baker Mayfield could go, Jimmy Garoppolov could go, and 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.320 you have to give up like a fixed price and 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.160 you got a fixed contract. That's good TV. Yeah, I 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.679 think Baker's gonna have to wait. And look, I know 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.920 this is a click bait when it comes to Baker Mayfield, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.800 and it'll stay that way because the Mothership and NFL Network, 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.000 they'll milk it for all it's worth because we're gonna 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.680 find out where Bake. You know, nobody wants Baker Mayfield, 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.600 it feels like, but everybody wants to talk about Baker Mayfield, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.800 Deebo Samuel. Where's it gonna end up? You got a 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.000 trade for him, and then you gotta pay him. That's 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.240 one of those crazy ones. I give your Green Bay. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.520 Do you end up paying what you would have paid 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.720 Damante Adams? But then you're gonna have to give up 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.000 a couple of first round pick or whatever you're going 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.040 to give up for Gebo Samuel. That's how crazy it 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.439 could turn out. But wide receivers are going to be 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.719 front and center. But I'm gonna guess that, uh, you know, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:16.480 first pick, and the Jacksonville Jaguars take dray Bon Walker, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.560 then you go okay, and then the Lions will be 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.840 on the clock with the Lions take Malik Will? Would 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.760 they go that early on a quarterback? Like? These are 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.040 the things. This is how you play it up. You know, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.640 you gotta add to the suspense there. What other poll 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.840 questions do we have today, Seaton? Well, just this is 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.319 a totally random thought that I'm seeing just off of Twitter, 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.320 has nothing to do with a poll question. But isn't 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.240 it crazy how comfortable we are? Kyle Kuzma tweeted this. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.000 I know we're numb to a lot of things, but 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.079 in this society, a seven foot center just cast a 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.640 three to win a playoff game. It's crazy. How many 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.840 super tall you know what formerly would have been big 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.440 men are such great outside shooters, and that it's just 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.840 not even a thought anymore. It's the Dirk Nubitsky effect. Yeah, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.680 when you think about twenty years later, Dirk Nuvitski. But 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.079 all so, if you look at how players are developed 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.560 in Europe, they're developed to be either you know, your 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.360 ball handling skills as a seven footer or if you're 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.559 a six footer. They want you to have the fundamentals 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.920 to end to be able to shoot, to be able 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.480 to have great form, be able to shoot free throws 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.839 like these are all important things for those players. And 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.960 I think you're starting to see the trickle down of 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.559 you know, Joe Lmbiid can hit a jumper, Carl Anthony 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:32.440 Towns can shoot outside, you know the Joker can. There's 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.400 so many of them that can. But you're right, it's 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.320 commonplace now where you go? Man, all right, seven footer 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.440 on the perimeter, who would have thought, yes, seton we 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.080 could go with basically off of our next guests. Maybe 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.880 a little better question for him, which team down three 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.640 and one is most likely to pull off a comeback? 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.920 So you have Atlanta right now, they're down three one 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.600 to the heat, Denver's down to the Warriors, Toronto down 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.280 to the sixers, and then Bowls down three one to 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.200 the walk. Any of them coming back? Well, New Orleans 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.439 is the one series that I'm curious about because it's 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.959 tied to two games apiece. The Devin Booker situation. Could 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:17.560 Zion Williamson play right? Because we keep saying, well, where's Zion? 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.680 He should be playing, he's dunking and the whole thing. Okay, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.760 Ben Simmons, then we're going, now, you can't have him play? 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.920 Aren't they sort of the same that you're saying to 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.440 Ben Simmons? He's been ten days pain free? Shouldn't he play? 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.640 Zion Williamson? Put him in there, Let's bring him back. Yes. See, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.280 if you had those guys play, aren't you sort of 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.280 setting them up for failure? I get that there's some 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.480 upside to it, but we'll talk about that. Thanks for 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.920 listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.320 catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.440 or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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We 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.160 make the way, make way for the great analysts from 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.320 the Mothership. Jeff Van Gundi, former head coach. He was 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.720 on the call Celtics Nets games one in three and 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.280 joins US. Now what's the big difference in the Celtics 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.680 and Nets and why the Celtics are up in a 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:27.120 commanding fashion? Well, I thought, actually, Brooklyn played an outstanding 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.200 first two games on the road. They gave themselves chances 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.920 to win in both games. They shot the ball better 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.640 than fifty percent in both games against a great Celtics defense. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.200 So I really liked the way they played the first 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.320 two games. It was Game three. It was the turnovers 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:50.960 combined with Durant obviously not playing or Irving playing particularly well, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.600 and the other guys, the complimentary players around them other 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.880 than Bruce Brown, didn't have good nights either. So it 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.040 was a bad night all the way around, and one 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.560 they could ill afford. Would you sign up Kyrie for 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:09.160 a long term contract if you're the Nets? Well it's 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.440 tough choices now, you know, because right now their depth 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.520 has been compromised. Joe Harris has been out most of 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:20.119 the year, so very good for them from a shooting standpoint, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.600 good rebounder and he's got stability to him. And then 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.160 you know Ben Simmons, if you're gonna say you're gonna 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.879 trade hardened, and in this one year, what you're going 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.200 to get back for Harden is Seth Curry who's hobbled, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.560 and Andre Drummond. That's a lose from a talent standpoint too. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.879 So I think you have to look at your roster 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.080 and totality. I know this because guys don't play as 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:50.359 much now, either minutes in a game or over the 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.200 course of the season. You have to have quality depth, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.080 and that's what right now the Celtics have built. They've 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.840 built a strong eight nine man rotation, and right now 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:07.160 that the Nets don't have enough depth due to injury 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.440 to be able to put it together and make a 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:15.639 championship run. Would you sign Kyrie long term? I'd have 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.560 to look at all those factors, U Dan. I mean, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:23.200 obviously he's had durability issues for many different reasons, and 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.600 my team has had durability issues. You know. The talent 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:31.880 is obviously a unique offensive talent to handle and all 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.080 that shot making. He hasn't played very well in the 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.160 last couple of games here after a great second half 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.679 in Game one. Just in general, for getting Kyrie for 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.520 the second I think you always have to ask yourself, 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.239 and I don't know what he'd get let's say, make 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:52.119 forty million. Are you better getting one forty million dollar 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.480 player or are you better getting you know, not as 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.680 good as the forty million, but having two really good 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.840 twenty million dollar players. I think you have to think 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.320 about how you want to surround Simmons and Durant because 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.600 those two are there, and you know you're gonna have 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.440 to build around those two. Let's go back a week 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.960 or so ago, it felt like the nets, you know, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:22.520 they're saying, hey, Ben's you know, he's been pain free, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.880 he's been working out, Like, why why are they setting 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.720 him up to be the fall guy from the standpoint 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.120 of lady not playing again? Why why not just say 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.240 we believe he's out, we're not expecting him to play 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:39.840 in this series, instead of hey, this could maybe tonight. Like, 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.639 I just don't understand the philosophy unless they're trying to 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.000 kind of push him into come on, let's go, let's play, 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.760 let's let's suck it up here. Well, Dan, I think, 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.359 at least what I've read, those are the sources saying 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.080 that he's you know, on track to play in game four. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.920 When we've talked to Steve Nash prior to the game 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.159 games that we've done. He's always said, you know, I 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.840 think it's too early to say. And so the reports 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.680 that were coming out of whatever camp never matched up 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.679 with what Steve Nash was saying to us, which was, 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:20.720 hold on, he hasn't even practiced yet. And again, I 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.440 have no idea what's going on. People who I think 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.080 it's hard to make these hard and fast pronouncements that 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:33.600 he's either letting his team down or he's injured, Like 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.520 none of us really know if he's truly injured, if 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:41.480 it's a mental health situation, or he could play, he's 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:46.000 just not comfortable to play. And so I find it 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:50.920 a really odd situation and I certainly am going to 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.920 remain judgment free on him and what he stands for. Yeah, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.600 it just feels like and all Steve Nash has to 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.760 say is look, he's not playing, that's it, and that 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.800 if he does come back, then we would have said, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.440 oh wow, okay, you know, hey, he's progressing farther along 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:12.480 like Zion Williamson. Why is Zion not playing? I mean 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:17.040 he can can. He played fifteen minutes, ten minutes, twelve minutes. 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.040 Why why would you not put him back in or 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.760 why is he not being put back in. Well, that's 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:28.639 an interesting question right there. If he's I think, right now, Phoenix, 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.440 I mean, I think New Orleans is going to win 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.000 that series once Booker went out and let's say he 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.040 can't come back, I think they have even though they 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.560 were ten games under five hundred during the regular season 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.639 and Phoenix was sixty four and eighteen. I think offensive 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.800 talent wise, New Orleans has the better team with the 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:53.240 addition of McCollum and Valanciunas in the off season. But 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.280 if you throw in Zion for fifteen minutes a game 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.200 off the bench, I mean, then I think they become 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.560 the prohibitive favorite over these last three games. So I've 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:11.320 got to believe that, you know, Williamson just isn't healthy 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.280 enough to play, because why wouldn't you want to play 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:18.320 if you were healthy enough in the playoffs. But I 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.240 also look back to Michael Jordan's second year in the league. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.200 He breaks his foot. If we fast forward to now, 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:30.040 Michael Jordan doesn't play in the playoffs, probably, I mean, 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.040 and really that was his coming out party when he 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.000 faced the Celtics in the Garden and had that dominating 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.800 series and they lost. But now it's about caution, load management, 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.400