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Speaker 1: the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I
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Speaker 1: Professional Better Signmon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Chad.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy week to brother.
Speaker 1: Week two, My man. This is the strip down in
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Speaker 1: doing this Sunday mornings during the season. Most listeners know
Speaker 1: Simon and I have entered against the spread pick them
Speaker 1: contests every season. We have done the show together five
Speaker 1: games against the spread. Every week. You and I always
Speaker 1: have a ten to fifteen minute conversation that nobody ever
Speaker 1: got to hear. To review our final picks. Make sure
Speaker 1: we didn't include games where injuries have been reported or
Speaker 1: we were on the wrong side of massive line, massive
Speaker 1: line moves. This is that conversations. Sometimes it's easy. I
Speaker 1: feel like today is going to be pretty easy. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's hard. We're going to have to figure it out together.
Speaker 1: You're ridid role as Simon.
Speaker 2: Ready brother.
Speaker 1: All Right, So Listen, these are the games we had
Speaker 1: zeroed in on the other day, Rams at Tennessee contest
Speaker 1: line is five and a half. It's still five and
Speaker 1: a half. This was our brass balls bet again. We
Speaker 1: thought the Rams would be down two o line men.
Speaker 1: They are only down one left guard, Steve Avila. Look,
Speaker 1: I bet it at five and a half. I still
Speaker 1: like it at this number. No reason for me to
Speaker 1: walk away, what about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people are going to see a theme here.
Speaker 2: There's bets we've made. We like. My fear with these
Speaker 2: bets that we made is that they're just kind of
Speaker 2: flat numbers.
Speaker 3: Right, we're betting a five and a half. We'd obviously
Speaker 3: before the six and a half. We're kind of again,
Speaker 3: we're betting into a number that's good number, but it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not great. No, it really isn't because it's the Rams.
Speaker 3: We know we're betting against Stafford, who, Yeah, you didn't
Speaker 3: look great last week, but this is week two, like
Speaker 3: we this really is. It's just so early that you
Speaker 3: can't you try not to take too much away from
Speaker 3: week one, right, Chad, So looking at this this game,
Speaker 3: I think my feeling is probably the same as yours.
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 3: This Tennessee team just is not as bad as people
Speaker 3: think they are. And you know, we're rolling the dice
Speaker 3: you on cam Ward because I like, I think we
Speaker 3: both agree. We thought he looked better than the game
Speaker 3: played out against the Broncos, and uh, this Rams team
Speaker 3: should not be as good, especially in the secondary, as
Speaker 3: that Broncos team. But we know, betting on a rookie
Speaker 3: in this spot against McVay and Stafford, you could get rolled.
Speaker 2: So to me, people out there, if you're fighting.
Speaker 3: This one, I get it. But when I stand on
Speaker 3: this one, it's just got it. At four, it's five
Speaker 3: and a half. I love cam Ward, I love this
Speaker 3: matchup for this Tennessee's defense, and you know, like you said,
Speaker 3: we wish both guys were out obviously betting this Tennessee
Speaker 3: tie with Jeffrey Simmons, but I don't think it matters.
Speaker 3: I think he's that dominant and we have so many
Speaker 3: questions about that offensive line. And you saw with Houston
Speaker 3: that Houston much better pass attack, I'll agree than this
Speaker 3: Tennessee team, but they didn't have any Houston have anyone
Speaker 3: in the middle like Jeffrey Simmons, and I think that's
Speaker 3: something people are gonna see that's gonna be a big
Speaker 3: weakness for this RAMS team. So yeah, scary, scary spot
Speaker 3: taking the rookie year. But I love this Tennessee team.
Speaker 3: I think they're still being overvalued. I'm sure we'll be
Speaker 3: on the other side of them, but as we stayed
Speaker 3: there in week two, it's still all public money right
Speaker 3: now on this RAMS side. So we're feeling pretty good
Speaker 3: about this Tennessee and just the number we're taking it
Speaker 3: five and a half. If you can find the six,
Speaker 3: obviously people get the six.
Speaker 1: I I think we're gonna we're gonna talk about games
Speaker 1: where there's sort of a five and a half versus
Speaker 1: six and a half. And look, I feel comfortable at
Speaker 1: the five and a half. Five is kind of a
Speaker 1: dead number. There's a big difference going from five to
Speaker 1: five and a half six six and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just said it's dead numbers.
Speaker 1: Dead number, So five and a half. I feel totally
Speaker 1: good about it. I actually am feeling more confident about
Speaker 1: it in my head than I think the way you
Speaker 1: sound about it.
Speaker 2: So just about picked behind the curtage, Chad.
Speaker 3: I did tell you I went to a wedding yesterday
Speaker 3: and I've been literally working through the night. So I like,
Speaker 3: if it sounds like I've been awake for thirty six
Speaker 3: hours and I went to a wedding in between, that
Speaker 3: it's true.
Speaker 2: That is factual.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. You don't sound great,
Speaker 1: you don't sound like you had a rested evening, and
Speaker 1: you are ready to sit down.
Speaker 2: And I wish I could say it was fun, but
Speaker 2: I cula'tve enjoyed the wedding because all I was doing
Speaker 2: in my mind was just thinking football. It was. It
Speaker 2: was honestly, I got a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way some people would say you've got
Speaker 1: a great life.
Speaker 2: Yeah I do.
Speaker 3: I tell people I do for six months out of
Speaker 3: the year, but the other six months it's just all
Speaker 3: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 3: It's like, even though we had a good week last week,
Speaker 3: I was already on the week two in my mind
Speaker 3: about four o'clock midway through Sunday last week.
Speaker 2: So it's I'm excited for this week. I mean, I
Speaker 2: love these lines, but I'm already like, man, week two,
Speaker 2: you just hear so much noise again, We're we're gonna
Speaker 2: have these games here. It's just crazy.
Speaker 3: The feedback I'm getting from our show because just our
Speaker 3: show's gotten so big. Now I'm just hearing so much noise.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Block out the noise. Let's focus on us.
Speaker 2: That's true, right that.
Speaker 1: It's like any healthy relationship, Simon, focus on you and me,
Speaker 1: And right now, you and I are going to talk
Speaker 1: about the Bills at the Jets. The Jets six and
Speaker 1: a half. Okay, it has been stuck on six and
Speaker 1: a half. I have not met this yet. I am
Speaker 1: going to, but I'm kind of hoping it'll get to seven.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to get there, but that's
Speaker 1: sort of why I've been hanging on. We still like
Speaker 1: it at six and a half. It will be one
Speaker 1: of our final five. I've been liking it more and
Speaker 1: more as the week is going on. I've really been
Speaker 1: thinking about the Jets are not interested in moral victories.
Speaker 1: I love the way they played last week the more
Speaker 1: and I have rewatched that game. I love their offense.
Speaker 1: I feel like they had an incredible game and they
Speaker 1: should have won that game, and they were on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of luck in that game, and the Bills
Speaker 1: just had such an emotional win a late night game.
Speaker 1: Now going on the road, they're not going to have
Speaker 1: that same emotional lift and their defense is in real trouble,
Speaker 1: especially in the defensive backfield. No fear, no fear on
Speaker 1: the Jets at six.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for our show, you know, the Sharper square side,
Speaker 3: this is definitely our sharpest pick most likely where it's
Speaker 3: shaking me a little public here, right, because there's always
Speaker 3: going to be those fans of Justin Fields and saw
Speaker 3: what he did last week, and they're just gonna blindly
Speaker 3: bet the Jets here. But I think they're kind of
Speaker 3: partially getting the picture of it, which is my view
Speaker 3: of it coming into the season, where I know it
Speaker 3: sounded crazy talking about in August, but this is the
Speaker 3: Ravens light this Jets offense, right, you have a mobile
Speaker 3: quarterback that can push the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: And you know, say what you want about Brestaw, he's
Speaker 2: a talented running back.
Speaker 3: So they're not gonna obviously put up the type of
Speaker 3: numbers the Ravens do, but we're not looking for that.
Speaker 2: We're looking for a team that can.
Speaker 3: Do an outside zone Reid options. That's all the Ravens
Speaker 3: simply did against that Bills team and it was you know,
Speaker 3: felt like the bad at that thousand, it was perfect.
Speaker 3: It could not be stopped. I mean the one on
Speaker 3: one you saw the gaping holes. Now, yeah, Jets offensive
Speaker 3: line step down from the Ravens. They're running back is
Speaker 3: a step down from the Ravens. The quarterback is a
Speaker 3: step down. We're not looking for forty points here, right,
Speaker 3: We're looking for fields can get us up to that
Speaker 3: twenty four to thirty points, keep us in range because
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's going to get his we know, we know
Speaker 3: we're been in two year chat. We're we've been into
Speaker 3: the raven I mean the bills last week, so you
Speaker 3: know it's a good number. There's a there's a really
Speaker 3: public book out there that's already moved a five and
Speaker 3: a half. So if they're at five and a half,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming these other very public books moved that way.
Speaker 3: I know hard Rock, you know, they're at five and
Speaker 3: a half now as well. And here in Jersey they're
Speaker 3: been bouncing between the six and a half and the six.
Speaker 3: This morning hard Rock went to five and a half.
Speaker 3: It's a big deal. So you know, the professional side
Speaker 3: is going to be this Jets side. And we talked
Speaker 3: about all the teasers, all of it. It's all going
Speaker 3: to be bills money.
Speaker 2: So I like you, like you.
Speaker 3: I feel confident in our spot, and I'm just so
Speaker 3: happy we have the six and a half because we
Speaker 3: need every point here against Josh Allen. So good, good number,
Speaker 3: good spot, underrated Jets team that's in my mind. We're
Speaker 3: praying they pull off the upset and it's a nice,
Speaker 3: nice fade next week on this Jets team because they're,
Speaker 3: you know, a sixty yard field goal away from being
Speaker 3: one to oher from last week and in the spot
Speaker 3: that the potential could be two and oh and it's
Speaker 3: like I think the general public is still sleep on
Speaker 3: this team. And yeah, once again we're banking on fields
Speaker 3: as a as a dog higher than three, which is
Speaker 3: usually a good spot to back them. So six and
Speaker 3: a half will take that every time in the contest.
Speaker 1: By the way, while you were talking, I started getting
Speaker 1: nervous that this line was moving in the apposite direction.
Speaker 1: So I bet the six and a half. If people
Speaker 1: are watching and they saw me squinting and looking away,
Speaker 1: it's only because I decided to We're not going to
Speaker 1: get that seven.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get I just never thought I
Speaker 2: was gonna get back there.
Speaker 1: I got that. I took the six and a half.
Speaker 1: I tried to be as patient as I could. All Right,
Speaker 1: Titans and Jets, pretty sharp plays so far. We're on
Speaker 1: the sharp side in both of those games. Five and
Speaker 1: a half and six and a half.
Speaker 2: I definitely say the sharp the sharp number for the Titans,
Speaker 2: that was the six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the sharp side is still going to be
Speaker 1: the Titans regardless. The New York Giants at Dallas, Dallas
Speaker 1: at five and a half, pretty much settling there. We know,
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of grief from wise guys
Speaker 1: that we were on the square side on Thursday. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing everything everyone is saying. Russell Wilson will be better
Speaker 1: against this Cowboys' secondary than he was against the Commander's secondary.
Speaker 1: Deron Bland is out for the Cowboys. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: purely at a quarterback quarterback situation. I'm gonna bet on
Speaker 1: dak at home in a dead number that is lower
Speaker 1: than six. Andrew Thomas out for the Giants. This team
Speaker 1: has not been able to figure out how to protect
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or how to run the ball when Andrew Thomas
Speaker 1: has been out the past two seasons, Wandale Robinson limited
Speaker 1: in practice, questionable for the game. If he does play,
Speaker 1: he will be hobbled. He had more receptions last week
Speaker 1: and thelak neighbors. So I don't love the roster that
Speaker 1: the Giants are putting on the field, and I do
Speaker 1: love what the Cowboys can do at home with a
Speaker 1: much better quarterback. So I'm still on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to find the Andrew Thomas news because
Speaker 2: that to me, I'm right there with you. That's a
Speaker 2: huge deal.
Speaker 1: He's been doubtful all week.
Speaker 2: The expectations practice all week either, like.
Speaker 1: The expectations are that he will not play.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I was just hoping, I'd hope. I was hoping Cheffy
Speaker 3: would do is like three a m. Tweet he was out,
Speaker 3: but never came. I'm not gonna lie to I sat
Speaker 3: there at one point for like thirty minutes just dead
Speaker 3: staring in social media because I was just like, tweet it.
Speaker 1: I like, you have been checking this NonStop, Like I
Speaker 1: really I want it to be true because I think
Speaker 1: it's key to the bet. And we're look, that's what
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're anticipating, we're prognosticating we're.
Speaker 2: All that. I just need it because it's this is
Speaker 2: such Oh it's spot we never take like this is
Speaker 2: a gift. I can't believe this is under six.
Speaker 3: It's been getting pounded all week by the public and
Speaker 3: professionals alike. And we talked about the the pros came
Speaker 3: in on the Giant side every time it touches six.
Speaker 3: So scary, scary, scary, scary. But I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 3: believing in they just overvaling a Giants team. And why
Speaker 3: wouldn't the public be on this Cowboys team?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: They look good in a primetime game, which I mean
Speaker 3: you talked about that CD drops. How does CD not
Speaker 3: come out here where one hundred and fifty yards I
Speaker 3: saw Cowherd took his prop. I know it's super choky,
Speaker 3: but I love to play because it's like this man
Speaker 3: I saw the night they got back from that Eagles game.
Speaker 3: He apparently went to the facility and just use the
Speaker 3: jug machine, which you could say, oh, that's a looking
Speaker 3: me thing.
Speaker 2: This dude's got the money. He's not out there for
Speaker 2: look at me. This is this is more than that.
Speaker 2: This is a true high level competitor.
Speaker 3: So CD pickens I don't see how the secondary of
Speaker 3: that Giants team stops that that one.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the running game will struggle for the Cowboys. It's
Speaker 3: not gonna be like the Eagles without Jaalen Carter. That
Speaker 3: to be will be the difference maybe the game, and
Speaker 3: that's maybe the Giants can attack it. But like you
Speaker 3: just said, we both think Russ looked absolutely finished against
Speaker 3: the Washington defense.
Speaker 2: That you saw.
Speaker 3: The middle of the field for Washington against the Green
Speaker 3: Bay was wide open. They have a thirty six year
Speaker 3: old linebacker and Bobby Wagner trying to cover twenty four
Speaker 3: to twenty five year old tight ends. Like Washington's has
Speaker 3: their own issues, the Giants did not expose a single
Speaker 3: one of them. So yeah, I'm I think we're in
Speaker 3: the same page. It's I'm confident. I know I'm being
Speaker 3: these words. When they win this game by three and
Speaker 3: it's like, how did that just happen? It's weak two,
Speaker 3: It's it's weird things are going to happen. But I
Speaker 3: don't know, it just feel like it's a bad number
Speaker 3: from the books and we're going to good number here.
Speaker 1: So dude, listen, we always know that one of our
Speaker 1: blind spots is not playing favorites in our final five,
Speaker 1: and I think that this is an opportunity where we
Speaker 1: are comfortable with the good quarterback against the bad quarterback
Speaker 1: at home. To me, that's the end, that's that's the
Speaker 1: ball game. And honestly, I think there are harder decisions.
Speaker 1: For example, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm just scared because we have two of these
Speaker 2: this week and it's week two. It's like we two.
Speaker 3: We know Week two is such like an overreaction in
Speaker 3: Week one, and I feel like we're not overreacting.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't get this line. That's what's freaking
Speaker 2: me out. Chad.
Speaker 3: What pros are putting big money on this? I know
Speaker 3: they're out there. I've talked to them and it's like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe. You just love putting your heavy Your
Speaker 3: biggest bet of the weekend is on Russell Wilson and
Speaker 3: this Giants team back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: Tell me this doesn't feel like the Panthers last year,
Speaker 1: where they have bought in on something they think they
Speaker 1: are seeing with the Giants and it might be six seven,
Speaker 1: eight weeks before everything they thought they saw for the Giants.
Speaker 1: I think it's really about this defensive line coming to
Speaker 1: fruition because the quarterback play is so bad and that
Speaker 1: is undoing everything.
Speaker 3: But it's like this d line against a young guy
Speaker 3: maybe makes sense, but it's like you went, we saw
Speaker 3: last week, but now you're getting Dak. Like Dak is
Speaker 3: just like we talked before the season, he's just an
Speaker 3: underrated guy. And I think that was the biggest wake
Speaker 3: up called the public and most people watching that Eagles game.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, this is this is a healthy
Speaker 3: Dak with confidence putting the pushing the ball downfield because
Speaker 3: it's a dying art. These guys just do not push
Speaker 3: the ball fifteen twenty yards down the field anymore. And
Speaker 3: Dak's still in that mode of pushing the ball, taking
Speaker 3: higher risk. And yeah, I think we're in the same Patriot,
Speaker 3: I just the Russell Wilson. This is Jackson Dart. I
Speaker 3: actually would look at this differently, but yeah, it feels
Speaker 3: like there's nothing less than Russ and he might be
Speaker 3: making us eat those words as we meet it later
Speaker 3: on tonight.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're feeling good about Titans, We're feeling good
Speaker 1: about Jets, We're feeling good ish about Cowboys. You said
Speaker 1: we have two of these Philadelphia minus one and a
Speaker 1: half at Kansas City. Some money starting to come in
Speaker 1: on Kansas City this morning. We're starting to see this
Speaker 1: line move back in that direction. If one and a
Speaker 1: half is the prevailing line that people can get, how
Speaker 1: are we feeling about this right now? Because I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: on Thursday, you one hundred percent convinced me that the
Speaker 1: Eagles were the right side. You were on a roll.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything has changed my mind since then.
Speaker 1: But are we courageous enough to make this one of
Speaker 1: our final five when the money might be moving against
Speaker 1: us now? And we know how scary it is to
Speaker 1: bet a game when the line is flipped from plus
Speaker 1: one to minus one?
Speaker 3: It is, But like in my mind a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff this year, with our contest, I've come to realization,
Speaker 3: especially after last week, I'd rather lose this bet here
Speaker 3: on Hurts in this spot than lose it on I
Speaker 3: don't know, Drake may or yeah, Daniel Jones, because I
Speaker 3: like those spots. I like those numbers. But here we're
Speaker 3: getting a good number on a good team. You know, Hurts,
Speaker 3: We've all seen the stats, right. I think he's at
Speaker 3: fifteen straight wins in games he's finished for the Eagles,
Speaker 3: So you know, incredible run on the flip side, this
Speaker 3: could be the low of lows, right, I mean the
Speaker 3: amount of pros I've heard from this week, and I've
Speaker 3: heard what they're saying. I get their position. Anyone can
Speaker 3: see their position coming from a mile away. Right, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, it's my homes. You think moms going over too?
Speaker 3: Like it's never ending amount of who is that guy?
Speaker 2: Is? He?
Speaker 1: Is he a sixty five year old dude from South
Speaker 1: Jersey with a you're in a cigar.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. I'm an ac baby.
Speaker 3: It's it's never ending like it's it's so much throwing
Speaker 3: stuff from the past into your face. I get where
Speaker 3: they're coming from because I do take into account what
Speaker 3: happened in the past.
Speaker 2: Obvio seen how big of a deal is. But what
Speaker 2: does it have to do anything with this season?
Speaker 3: That the Chiefs have never been oh too since twenty
Speaker 3: fourteen or in the Mahomes era, in the any Rid air,
Speaker 3: they've never been over too? Have they ever had a
Speaker 3: brutal start where they went to Brazil and then played
Speaker 3: the defending home defending champion at home the following week?
Speaker 3: And did they lose their one and two receiver that
Speaker 3: they desperately needed.
Speaker 1: And it's just and are they all getting other than Mahomes?
Speaker 1: Are their best players closer to mid thirties than early
Speaker 1: thirties right or twenties?
Speaker 3: And it's football, Like the football, nothing lasts forever in
Speaker 3: the sport. I mean that Belichick, Brady Error, the greatness,
Speaker 3: Randy Moss, Gronk, all these amazing pieces. Raindy never got
Speaker 3: a ring with those teams. Like there's just there's windows
Speaker 3: for these different organizations. And I'm not saying this is
Speaker 3: the window closed on this team, but this team is
Speaker 3: going to be so different November than they are right
Speaker 3: now with this Chiefs team, and they're being priced in
Speaker 3: this game like this is a November game. So I
Speaker 3: make the line two and a half. It's one crazy
Speaker 3: good value on this Eagle side. And I get the
Speaker 3: professional side, right. This is you know, every talk in
Speaker 3: it on TV, every Joe public will be on the Eagles.
Speaker 3: And this is why we talked about like this cowboy
Speaker 3: side is Egle side. I don't feel great about it,
Speaker 3: but it's also something I'm trying to attack. To me
Speaker 3: and Chad had a weakness with last year where we
Speaker 3: just were scared off of public favorites like this, and
Speaker 3: you know it's weak two. I can easily eat this,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna see this season. I'm gonna take stands
Speaker 3: on this type of spots. And you know, this Chiefs team,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a team that's really gotten me and
Speaker 3: chatting these exact spots every time we've gone against them.
Speaker 2: But it's just not the same Chiefs team from those past.
Speaker 2: It's just the defense too.
Speaker 3: When I broke down their defense with Spags, he is
Speaker 3: calling the same defense he always calls. The pieces are
Speaker 3: just so new and different. They look lost, they look slow.
Speaker 3: They're not just playing the play in the field. They're
Speaker 3: thinking and trying to react to what they're thinking. You're
Speaker 3: done in Spags defense are too slow. So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Like this is the type of game where I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Maybe some rain. You know, I don't know. Nothing favors
Speaker 2: this Chiefs team.
Speaker 3: Like it's if it was thirty degrees and snowing, I
Speaker 3: could see it working from an arrowhead. But it's September.
Speaker 3: They're banged up, Eagles are healthy. You know, it's just
Speaker 3: it just lines up. It's a good spot for this team.
Speaker 3: And yeah, pros were shows. I'll ride with the public
Speaker 3: in this exact spot. This is our squares bet of
Speaker 3: the week for sure.
Speaker 1: You sound like you are in agony right now talking
Speaker 1: about this, like the.
Speaker 2: Chat, it's scary.
Speaker 3: Like I woke like when I woke up whatever there
Speaker 3: was Friday morning, like I literally had like a horrible
Speaker 3: must have a horrible dream, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh my God, like Mahomes dog at home.
Speaker 2: What am I doing? But I've been settling back into it.
Speaker 2: I'm just I I have so much money on it.
Speaker 3: I just can't believe that this number has not budged,
Speaker 3: like you said, it's sitting at one and a half
Speaker 3: all week. Like we did our Sunday night show talk
Speaker 3: about the Eagles as a dog, they flipped to a
Speaker 3: favorite come Monday morning, it's been stuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all week.
Speaker 3: So game of the week. I can't believe it's not
Speaker 3: the Sunday night game. I'm so happy so I can
Speaker 3: finally sleep after our show on Sunday. But yeah, this
Speaker 3: is a this is a great number, and we'll see Mahomes.
Speaker 3: All you can think of is Mahome's magic. There's no
Speaker 3: other re gonna take the Chiefs team like we could
Speaker 3: get lay word that Worthy's gonna play. But seriously, that's
Speaker 3: that's such a stretch when you think about the injuries
Speaker 3: coming off of and yeah, Andy Reid said most it's
Speaker 3: not likely that he plays, but they're still obviously leaving
Speaker 3: the door open that he could. So you know, the
Speaker 3: stummer could go down. But I think if once he
Speaker 3: gets said that he's out, this could easily go up
Speaker 3: to two.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to take it now. Now that's out
Speaker 2: one and a half for this Eagles side.
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Speaker 1: I'm taking Seattle in Pittsburgh, which we loved all week,
Speaker 1: off the board because that number has moved to two
Speaker 1: and a half in a lot of places. And there's
Speaker 1: even though Joey Porter is going to be out for
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Devin Witherspoon is going to be out for
Speaker 1: maybe out for the Seahawks, So I have some injury
Speaker 1: concerns in that game as well as a concern about
Speaker 1: the number. Do you feel strongly in opposing me in
Speaker 1: removing this from our list.
Speaker 3: No, it's bad numbers two and a half in our contest.
Speaker 3: There are books out there right now sitting on three
Speaker 3: and a half for the Seahawks, So.
Speaker 2: Just go grab it.
Speaker 3: Like we said, it's a Tomlin spot to motivate his defense.
Speaker 3: This total is a forty. I mean it's been coming
Speaker 3: down and Chad just said that the Pittsburgh's defense is
Speaker 3: banged up.
Speaker 2: But I don't know the books.
Speaker 3: You're thinking Tomlin's going to motivate the guys, or maybe
Speaker 3: it says more about the Seahawks defense and I mean
Speaker 3: offense and defense. But yeah, three and a half with
Speaker 3: a total of forty when we have a really good
Speaker 3: defense in the Seahawks side, we'll see It's It's obviously
Speaker 3: we were banking a lot on Sam Donald, but it's
Speaker 3: it's really about the running scheme and that's where you
Speaker 3: think you can attack this Pittsburgh team.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no need to put it in at a
Speaker 2: bad number.
Speaker 3: But three and a half, people, if you want to
Speaker 3: be on the same side as me, I'm I'm taking
Speaker 3: that three and a half right now.
Speaker 1: I have thoughts on Dallas on Denver at Indie. That
Speaker 1: feels like the final game potentially to me. We can
Speaker 1: get it at two and a half. It's gone up
Speaker 1: since we talked about it on Thursday when you loved
Speaker 1: it at too. Do you have any other games other
Speaker 1: than that that you feel strongly about that should be
Speaker 1: our fifth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we can break down the Indie game.
Speaker 3: It's you know, a unique spot in the sense that
Speaker 3: the Broncos were the all hype team coming into this
Speaker 3: and I thought the Cold to be caught copping a
Speaker 3: lot more love from the general public, and they're not right.
Speaker 2: Everyone's kind of to them themselves. Well maybe Miami's just
Speaker 2: that bad.
Speaker 3: And I don't overreact to that Denver team, where my
Speaker 3: view of it coming to the season is the same thing.
Speaker 3: After two weeks or I guess a week now is
Speaker 3: the second year quarterbacks after the first year, and all
Speaker 3: the tape these defenses have to study. You've seen a
Speaker 3: playout now in a couple of games. I mean the
Speaker 3: biggest one was that Green Bay game. You saw a
Speaker 3: converted effort to heavily, heavily pressure Daniels's right side, right
Speaker 3: like that if you can get him to move to
Speaker 3: his left to throw across his body. It was pretty
Speaker 3: clear he had a glaring weakness there. And it sounds stupid,
Speaker 3: like have they not figured that out last year? But
Speaker 3: they're just little things like that, little details that some
Speaker 3: team figures out and focuses on and other teams don't
Speaker 3: notice it or exploit it the year before, but the
Speaker 3: offense they do. And watching that Denver game there's a
Speaker 3: lot of ways Tennessee can make him really and I
Speaker 3: like the the idea of you know, we're getting a
Speaker 3: good number. And that's where I agree with you that
Speaker 3: if this will be our last one in again, it's
Speaker 3: not a final one like yet I have it in
Speaker 3: there at two and a half. I'm with you, chat,
Speaker 3: I'll take it. But my fear of my doubt here
Speaker 3: is just are we overvalue this Colts team after one week?
Speaker 3: And we both agree that they are good and there
Speaker 3: are some things we really like about them, but I
Speaker 3: believe their number one and number three or corners are
Speaker 3: out of this game. That's a big deal, Colts. I'm
Speaker 3: miss send you guys with their secondary. So there's a
Speaker 3: couple of games here we'll talk about. But that's the
Speaker 3: biggest pause for.
Speaker 2: Me on that one.
Speaker 1: All Right, what am I missing?
Speaker 2: Where we at with this Saints number?
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to bring that up.
Speaker 3: It's four and a half in our contest three live.
Speaker 3: Trent might not play. He's working out before the game.
Speaker 2: I mean we talk all the time, like if you
Speaker 2: don't have him, that forty offense is not the same.
Speaker 2: He is just.
Speaker 3: The ultimate game changer between the run, scheme, everything. He
Speaker 3: just does everything so well.
Speaker 2: My fear here is.
Speaker 3: It's Shanahan with a backup, and for some reason you
Speaker 3: dive into the numbers. He does really well with backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So how many times have we said this? I don't
Speaker 1: think there's anybody who enjoys coaching when his team is
Speaker 1: injured and he's got to play backups more than Shanahan.
Speaker 1: I think he loves the challenge. I think his teams outperform.
Speaker 1: I think other teams think they're going to have an advantage,
Speaker 1: and he can scheme like nobody else in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So I know there's a big discrepancy in the numbers,
Speaker 1: but I'm really ready to put one of our precious
Speaker 1: five on the same.
Speaker 3: That's why it's like I'm not forcing it, and I
Speaker 3: just that one jumped out to me right away where
Speaker 3: it's like it's four and a half, they might be
Speaker 3: on their best.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Indy, like I have not bet
Speaker 1: the Indie game. You've been talking about it all week.
Speaker 1: I have not been able to get myself there because
Speaker 1: I think there was some fluky stuff in that first game.
Speaker 1: They had the perfect team, perfect matchup, perfect game. Denver's
Speaker 1: defense is much better than Miami's, obviously, but I'd be
Speaker 1: more comfortable with Indy than I would be with New Orleans,
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I can't get over how good Party is,
Speaker 2: especially to that team. Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You know, the past, the past record we're talking about
Speaker 3: with Shanahan and this team, I think it's fair to
Speaker 3: say they've been better in the past than they are
Speaker 3: right now in many aspects. I mean, they just, like
Speaker 3: we say all the time, you pay your superstars, the
Speaker 3: rest of the team is going to suffer. So you
Speaker 3: know they've paid these superstars. Okay, are you not playing Party?
Speaker 2: Not playing?
Speaker 1: Kittle not playing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kittle not.
Speaker 3: Playing, No, Trent, that's about what one hundred million right there?
Speaker 3: Not playing for your offense. Whatever it is, it's it's
Speaker 3: a big deal and we're going to see that. So
Speaker 3: I think both our hesitation is just the fact that,
Speaker 3: right Shanahan with the backup, But it's also, like you said,
Speaker 3: the thought of having this Saints team and we're down
Speaker 3: fourteen and I need Spencer Rattler does somehow get me
Speaker 3: back from a fourteen oh a hole.
Speaker 2: It's just it's dead. It's not happening, So I get it.
Speaker 2: What can you keep it moving?
Speaker 1: So who's left? Like, the only other team that I've
Speaker 1: been itching to bet all week is Cincinnati and I've
Speaker 1: just been wanting that number to get to three. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be three and a half. So do you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that? If not?
Speaker 2: Which was our fifth oh Jags?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like them, But it's another spot that
Speaker 3: it feels a lot like uh, Tennessee, where it feels
Speaker 3: like it we know it feels like a spot we
Speaker 3: have to bet. We know we have to bet it,
Speaker 3: And that's what scares me that it's why wouldn't we
Speaker 3: bet the three and a half?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I'm glad it moved down to three,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much, because it's like, Okay, at
Speaker 3: least the professionals are still hitting, because it's it's hard.
Speaker 2: What we do is hard.
Speaker 3: Where the five and a half, the four and a
Speaker 3: half which all the proch took on Sunday that made sense.
Speaker 3: Them not touching a three and a half all week
Speaker 3: just gave me pause where it's like, oh man, do
Speaker 3: we miss the best of the number and we're betting
Speaker 3: a dead number here?
Speaker 2: Where you know everyone.
Speaker 3: I thought everyon would be on the Jacks. That Bengos
Speaker 3: offense was so terrible against the Browns. I'm so hesitant
Speaker 3: to back this Jacks here because it feels like we
Speaker 3: got away with murder last week with this Jacks team.
Speaker 2: We got a no sweat bet on the Jacks. I
Speaker 2: mean that to me would be the first time we've
Speaker 2: ever had.
Speaker 1: That, never had that. Yeah, I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3: So we're definitely, like I always say Roulett Wheel, there's
Speaker 3: been seven straight Blacks. We're hitting black again if we
Speaker 3: take the Jacks here. But I can be talked into
Speaker 3: it because I bet it. Like I'm on the three
Speaker 3: and a half, I'm on the four.
Speaker 2: I just can't get over. Oh listen, running looked.
Speaker 1: For I don't want to. I don't want to bet
Speaker 1: the Jacks, sir. I would rather bet the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Oh you do at three?
Speaker 1: Well, I've just been waiting for it to get to three.
Speaker 1: So for the contest, it's this question of are we
Speaker 1: betting the Bengals at three and a half?
Speaker 2: Oh, no chance.
Speaker 1: So who's our fifth? We have the Titans, we have
Speaker 1: the Jets, we have the Cowboys, we have Philly all
Speaker 1: at basically the existing numbers of today, who's our fifth?
Speaker 3: So I feel like I'm not going to get you there, Patriots.
Speaker 3: I get it, I just I know all the underline numbers.
Speaker 3: That just it's variable against Miami. He's done so well
Speaker 3: in this exact spot, and you know the bounce back
Speaker 3: betting on Dolphins, because the Dolphins historically have owned the Patriots,
Speaker 3: especially at home, and you know, the whole thing was
Speaker 3: the dark jerseys with.
Speaker 1: The same heat and the shade, and yeah, I get.
Speaker 2: It, but it's like.
Speaker 3: Rabel's are guy, Like eventually we got a back label
Speaker 3: and there's spots like this that Vrabel has been very
Speaker 3: profitable to us in this exact spot. But again, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to force this one in because it's like
Speaker 3: not the best number in our contest. It's one and
Speaker 3: a half. You can get two and a half right
Speaker 3: now on the Patriots. That's I'd be more confident there.
Speaker 3: So if it's between that and the Colts at culture
Speaker 3: two and a half, I'm gonna take the Colts in
Speaker 3: our contest.
Speaker 1: I think we do the Colts.
Speaker 2: Do you love Atlanta? Are you still indifferent about that game?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, we don't have to do it that because in
Speaker 3: our contest it's five and a half. I don't like
Speaker 3: I don't like Atlanta. I'm on the Viking. So so
Speaker 3: let's if you wanted to own the Atlanta and put
Speaker 3: them in a five and a half, that would have
Speaker 3: been on you, but like it.
Speaker 1: I'd rather I'd rather go with Indy plus two and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, So right now, I got Eagles minus one and
Speaker 3: a half, Colts ye plus two and a half, yep,
Speaker 3: Dallas minus five and a half, yep, Jets plus six
Speaker 3: and a half, Tennessee plus five.
Speaker 1: And a half yep. All right, that's the final five.
Speaker 1: One change was Colts.
Speaker 2: Colts Saints plus four and a half to the Colts
Speaker 2: plus two and a half. Yep. And then last big decision.
Speaker 2: Brother Survivor.
Speaker 1: Said, well, I thought we decided the other day. I
Speaker 1: ended up in I'm in two Survivor pools. I think
Speaker 1: I put in the Cardinals and I put in the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: So you're on the Cowboys. Yeah, you come around all right. Well,
Speaker 3: the fans took a vote. I think I got like
Speaker 3: over one thousand, five hundred or whatever it was votes.
Speaker 3: They're on Dallas with us, so it's between them the
Speaker 3: Ravens for the fans. I want to do Dallas because
Speaker 3: it's just we'reever. We're never gonna use them again. I
Speaker 3: don't know what else in this season we take them.
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie to you, Chad. I'm coming
Speaker 3: around the Panthers a little bit today where it's like
Speaker 3: I could close my eyes a little bit and see
Speaker 3: them pulling the upside off this corner.
Speaker 2: See. I know it's impossible, but listen.
Speaker 1: Oh goddamn, I Skyler man.
Speaker 3: I can't your eyes. Can't do Kyler, I can't do it.
Speaker 3: You're a man for putting your survivor. I can't do Kyler.
Speaker 1: I got a good okay in your eyes. The reason
Speaker 1: I didn't do the Ravens and we'll let everyone we'll
Speaker 1: get out of here, is there's a very good chance
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year a lot of teams
Speaker 1: they play will be injured. So could they, But I
Speaker 1: think overall their roster is better, and I'd rather have
Speaker 1: to use the Ravens late in the year than any
Speaker 1: other the other teams we were talking about, all right,
Speaker 1: So just to be clear, the final five Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: plus five and a half. That's where the line is
Speaker 1: right now. Jets plus six and a half, Dallas minus
Speaker 1: five and a half, Philadelphia minus one and a half, uh,
Speaker 1: Indianapolis plus two.
Speaker 2: And a half.
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