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Speaker 1: Time for another media round table. The second week of

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Speaker 1: camp coming to a close. I'm JP Shadrick and along

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Speaker 1: with us today from the Athletic He's moved over, Philip Heilman.

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Speaker 1: What's up Phil? How you doing man? Hey? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: him Well. It's a Friday and the Jacks had the

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Speaker 1: day off tomorrow. What could be better than that? It's

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Speaker 1: pretty good and they're off the field by ten o'clock

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Speaker 1: today or something like that. What do we did it?

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Speaker 1: Is there such a great break up? Plenty of time

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Speaker 1: to write, plenty of time to maybe grill out, maybe

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Speaker 1: have a few beers or something tomorrow. There's the world

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Speaker 1: is our oyster? Tippy? Well, let's finish today first before

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Speaker 1: we think about the off day. First. I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I got you, and I'll wait for the invitation. That'd

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Speaker 1: be great. Rick Blue tint xcel, what's up Ricking? Hey?

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Speaker 1: How are you good to see? I like the early

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Phil, get out of here, and if

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Speaker 1: you talk to some of the players in this locker

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Speaker 1: and stuff during the hotel. Know, I think they love

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Speaker 1: is a change for the better, at least from the

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Speaker 1: guys I've talked to, I'd agree, And you know, Claius

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Speaker 1: you know, Doug Moron making these changes. I I really

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Speaker 1: wish that I knew how all of this evolved at

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Speaker 1: I think of the way things used to be when

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Speaker 1: Tom was here beginning in nine, and I understand that

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Speaker 1: the game has changed completely from then, But how did

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Speaker 1: that conversation go about let's do things early, let's rest bodies,

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Speaker 1: You sort of break it up a little bit. It's

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Speaker 1: and it's smart. It's good to see from Doug Moron.

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody who, along with Tom Coughlin, is you know,

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Speaker 1: a certain way. Well, it's good to see that he's

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Speaker 1: does seem like Maron is going to you know, be

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Speaker 1: But obviously both of you guys, you know, stay up

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Speaker 1: breaking down Dug Maren's quoite about Quincy Williams from Tuesday

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Speaker 1: don't think that means that Quincy Williams season is suddenly

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Speaker 1: I think it's a huge blow. I really do. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I have always been an every snap guy counts time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for Clais Campbell. That's one thing. For Jalen Ramsay,

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Speaker 1: That was a beautiful thirty yard pass from Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: I mean, if a coach can challenge a past interference call,

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Speaker 1: out there. Steam blue Crabs on the menu coming up

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Speaker 1: the good to see you guys. Philip Hailman from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic Rick Blue Tin to next Sel'll see you guys

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