WEBVTT - Mo Rocca Disobeys Bridger 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:15.760 But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.000 But you're a guest to my home. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:27.240 You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:34.520 your presences presence enough, and I already had too much stuff, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:35.960 So how do you. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:51.519 Dare to surbey me? Welcome to, I said, no Gifts. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:57.160 I'm Pritchard Wine girl. We're in the backyard. I hope 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.440 you're enjoying yourself. I hope you're having a nice time 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.440 and whatever casino you're currently in, just sitting there with 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.520 a cigarette dangling out of your mouth or whatever you're doing. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.920 My lunch tasted weird. Let's get into the podcast. I 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.240 adore today's guest. He's just so funny. It's Moroka Mo. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.440 Welcome to, I said, Okaifts. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.640 I'm so happy to be here. I never saw Eat, Pray, Love, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.160 but I feel like she probably went to a place 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:23.279 like this at some point. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:25.400 This backyard. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.399 Yes, yeah, it's like, what is this a palazzo? It's something. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.560 It's if I had been brought here blindfolded, and I 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.640 won't say that I wasn't and I would. I'm not 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.399 sure I know where I was that. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.200 We want to just disorient the guests. That's the entire 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.319 purpose of this backyard. Just leave them feeling very confused 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:46.840 and dizzy. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.480 And I am, is this the Shangri Law neighborhood of 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:51.600 Los Angeles. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.520 You're in town for just a few days. What have 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.080 you been up to? 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.040 You know, I've just been driving into I was on 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.280 KTLA this morning fall. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:00.960 That's exciting. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.000 It was exciting. They have so much fun on that 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.720 morning show. The amount of time they devoted to the 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.720 masked singer. I just I thought, this is where I 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.560 want to be right now. The world's on fire, and 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.120 I mean this, I mean, they were just having a 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.600 great time and they brought me on set, and I 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.440 just thought, my teeth are just not white enough to 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.240 be here. I mean, they're not and I'm embarrassed. I'm 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.520 okay with my teeth being a little askew, right, but 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.320 they are not right enough. Yeah. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.720 I feel like morning shows. I'm surprised they don't check 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.600 teeth at the door, right. That feels I mean, everybody 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:36.639 on the glowing. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.679 Teeth gleaming like it comes like with a sound. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.919 Effect, right. I don't know that teeth bleaching is in 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:43.600 my life. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:45.160 Teeth white bleaching. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:46.240 White, Yeah, whitening. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.679 Well, I don't think you need it. I can tell 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.160 right now. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.359 Well, you know my teeth, but they're like a natural 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.280 tooth color, I would assume, or I know, but you 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.280 see people with white teeth and you're like, am I 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:57.080 doing this wrong? 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:58.079 Or right? 0:02:58.720 --> 0:02:59.840 Maybe it's all right? 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.600 Well, I wonder if you if do you happen to 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.040 have one of those Sherman Williams kind of what are the. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.519 Wheel of paint sample thing? Yeah? 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.200 The sample things? What a crew? Is that the color 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:13.160 the teeth should be? 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.079 Oh? A crew? I've never heard of a crew? Is 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.560 it kind of an eggshell? Yes? 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:18.840 Oh, okay shell. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.519 I feel like there should be a whole line of 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:22.960 paints just after different types. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.520 Of teeth, different types of teeth. But it is crazy 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.360 how out here everybody has I mean, so many people 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.360 have the same teeth. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.919 Oh yeah, the teeth that have come from factory. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.480 I mean, how are these people going to be identified later? 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.600 That's a great question. I've never thought about that. How 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.840 does a veneer work as far as the uniqueness of 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.440 a tooth? Interesting? 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:46.000 Right? 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.880 Yes, well I guess do you maybe? I guess your 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.360 molars are like the last hope because you probably don't 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.440 get a veneer on your molar. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.880 Probably not. Did I have those taken out? I can't remember. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.800 I had my wisdom teeth taking down to different than 0:03:58.840 --> 0:03:59.240 my molars. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.640 Do you remember when you had your wisdom teeth? 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.680 Yes, I do remember, because you had to. I don't 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:03.960 know if they still do it the same way, but 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.040 I was living in Dallas. Dallas is of course where 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.760 you get your wisdom teeth taken out. That's why I 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.440 moved there. I mean, I was anticipating it's a must. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.520 The New York Times thirty six hours in Dallas, have 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.279 your wisdom teeth taken out. And you know, back then, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.920 back then in the nineties, you had to have someone 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.280 that would It's like someone picking you up from your colonoscopy. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.760 You had to have somebody that was going to pick 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.080 you up after your wisdom teeth were taken out and 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.880 be with you if you were single. And at the 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.000 time I was single and my friend Stephanie was like 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.760 watching over me. And I don't know how long I 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.480 was in a Hayes four, but I do remember. Sorry, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.200 this is really graphic. I remember. Actually I never haven't 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.240 thought about this since the nineties. I had to go 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.240 to the bathroom in the middle of the night, and 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.599 and I went and I sat down, and I was 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.919 so tired from the antesesia. I guess that when I 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.840 was sitting down, Oh my god, what's happening. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.599 The helicopters here. They're here too early. We were going 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.760 to send you out on the copter, but they'll just wait. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.280 So you're waking up in the middle of the night. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.359 Yeah, And I had to relieve myself. I was just 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.520 going to pee, and but I was sitting down because 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.159 I was just sort of be in a haze. Actually 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.799 I do that all the time anyway. But and I 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.719 rested my elbows like on my knees and and my 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.360 head like in one hand, basically, just as I was 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.840 sort of tired. And there are little stitches that they 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.640 put in there, and they kind of came on. I 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.120 think they came undone, yeah, because I applied so much 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.599 pressure on them. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.520 And then I mean it was like gushing blood. What happened. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.440 It wasn't really, it was just a little taste. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.200 Well then it was a little midnight snack. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.960 Yeah. And then I went and had some sorbet just 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:45.880 as a palate lenser. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.800 Yeah, wisdom teeth removal is the one time I've ever 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.000 been put out completely and it's a that part of 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.640 it is a very exciting experience. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.080 I love that part of it. Now when you have 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.440 and when you have an upper giendoscopy, also they put 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.279 you do they put you out for the colon? They 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:03.640 put you out. They put you out for the one 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.520 that goes in your throat. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.360 Oh okay, right, and not for a colonauster They don't. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.320 But if you have them at the same time, if 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.640 it's a two camera shoot, they do, which I have. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.400 And I always wonder about the coverage of it, like 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.880 are the cameras going to see each other on editing? 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.800 Yeah, solve all of those problems. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.920 Well, but you get to make sure not to cross 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.720 the line. I think that's what the DP will tell 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.800 you if you if you if you have a really 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.360 good insurance, Planet comes with the DP. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:33.560 It's covered by the guild. This is a union approved shoot, right, Okay. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.279 So you were saying that they were talking about the 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.520 mask singer this morning. Were you able to contribute to 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.320 that conversation at all. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.960 I wasn't. I acknowledged it because I think it was 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.760 important to acknowledge that they've been talking about it, and 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.880 then we started talking about famous people who died in 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.000 the same day, because that's why they had be come 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:51.920 on to talk to us. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.640 Died in the same day, well. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.160 June twenty fifth, twenty nine, when Pharaoh Faucet and Michael 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.960 Jackson died. Right, Yeah, I felt so bad for you know, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.640 she had the first half of the day depending on 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.800 where you lived, like on the East Coast, she had 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:10.200 most of the waking hours in La. She really got 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.880 screwed over. I mean, she did die that day, so 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.320 she was technically already it was a lousy day for her, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.640 but it got worse when Michael Jackson overshadowed her. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.480 Right, my wife came on the record. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.280 Yeah, kind of like really pushed off the front page. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:22.680 Yeah. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.920 The next day on CBS's Early Show More Morning Show, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.880 Michael Jackson was mentioned over one hundred times. Fair foss 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.040 I got six mentions, Oh my god. And Ed McMahon 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.720 had died two days before and people. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:38.640 Had already forgot forget what he's a shadow at that point. Wow, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.119 one hundred versus six. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.560 Well, you know, it was a shock with him, right, Like, 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.600 she had been sick, she had been ill. We knew 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.560 she was ill and she really also, I mean, she 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.640 did a reality show at the end about the cancer 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.040 she was living with, which is anal cancer, which at 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.560 the time no one wanted to mention, and to her 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.360 great credit, she mentioned it her She talked about it 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:00.680 explicitly and that was good. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.240 And then here comes Michael just forget all about. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:09.480 It, yes, like moon offing right into her shot, like, yeah, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.880 but it's happened. It's happened a lot. I mean, you know, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.720 Margaret Thatcher and a net Fuinicello died in the same day. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.800 Oh yeah, I imagine Margaret was the big big ticket 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.520 there for print. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.240 It was because she was an important death and it 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.720 was obviously, but a net Funicello I think she was 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.600 like she was such a big deal in the fifties 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.040 and sixties, Like it's like you teach Selena Gomez and 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.600 who's what the high school musical the Vanessa Hudgens, Oh right, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.960 and multiply that by like orders of magnitude bigger. I mean, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.680 she was so big. So for baby boomers, I think 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.400 it was kind of like, we should be talking about 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.040 Margaret Thatcher, but we want to be talking about a 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.120 net Finicello, Right, what year was that? Uh, oh gosh, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.360 when did they die? It was before Meryl Street made 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.520 the movie. Oh, okay, I don't have the I don't 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.920 have the year for you thirteen us it was twenty thirteen. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.160 Wow. For whatever reason, neither of these crossed my desk. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.400 I don't remember either of them dying, and that's crazy. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:08.840 Those are both big deaths. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.880 Were you having your wisdom teeth taken out that day? 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.400 There was an hour that I don't remember from that day, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.640 and it's the hour I'm usually online, so maybe that's 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.000 what happened. Yeah, that's really fascinating. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.679 Oh, it is interesting who gets well sometimes? You know, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.560 some of these the coverage really holds up. Like Jim 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.280 Henson and Sammy Davis Junior died on the same day, right, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.599 I mean, just two brilliant creative talents, and the newspapers, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.400 if you look back at them, they were side by 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.760 side for the most part. The television coverage it was 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.079 usually like two great Hollywood or you know, the the 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.600 legends of television Hollywood died left us today and it 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.600 was appropriate. And I think, even looking back now, it's like, yes, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.840 that makes sense. I don't know who I would have 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.840 given lead coverage to. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.880 Right and remind me of what Jim I remember him dying. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:53.839 What did he die of? 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.640 He died? It was it was a kind of pneumonia. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.200 I think a lot of the time at the time, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:59.840 people thought, oh, it was this HIV is an a 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.400 It's like, it's this euphemistic and it was not. He 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.720 had an infection and was it a bacterial infection? 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.640 But yeah, yeah, I have like a weird, foggy memory 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.960 of it being strep throat, which can't possibly be true. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.600 Wait it is, yeah, streptocockle toxic shock syndrome caused by 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:17.920 a strap. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.520 Yeah god, and I really yeah, thank you for that boy, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.920 for that fact check. I'm embarrassed. And I called it pneumonia. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.480 I think we thought it was pneumonia at first. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.080 Sorry anyway, Wow, that I've held onto that information that 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.160 long and almost no other. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.520 Information amazing that you knew that that is. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.440 Yeah, it felt like a like a weird childhood logic, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.679 where like I had had strep throat, so that would 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.600 I imagine that would kill someone. But I guess I 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.360 just had a personal attachment to strep throat and it 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:42.880 stuck with me. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.480 Well, I could have also had something to do with 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.560 your attachment to the Muppets. Well, certain, I mean, I 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.320 mean it was I mean, it was a really it 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:50.280 was a real shocker. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.320 Yeah right, it was a shock, right because he was 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:52.960 fairly young. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.880 Oh yeah, and he like apparently walked into an emergency 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.880 rooms that I'm not feeling. Wow, oh my god. Yeah, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.800 I mean it's really terrible. I mean, his junior had 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.520 been ill for a long time, he'd throat cancer and 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.520 they had a huge send off on ABC with you know, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.320 Gregor Hines danced with him when he could barely stand up, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.679 and it was pretty amazing. 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.520 Right, Wow, what a day, what a memory? 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:14.520 Yeah? 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.160 Yeah, what have you been doing to fill your days? 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.839 Has the strike affected you at all? 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.600 No, I'm fortunate because I work in news and it's 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.800 covered under a different contract, right yeah, So yeah. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.360 It's only affected you as far as you're watching it all. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.680 Unfold, yes, exactly. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:30.000 Yeah. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.640 And hopefully by the time this releases, the sex strike 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.079 will be over. But as of today, it's just all 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.000 blown up again, which is. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.840 I read that, and it's terrible, and I mean I'm 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.920 not saying anything new here, but boy, the amounts of 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.400 money that the heads of these company make oh, I mean, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.000 I think we'll look back and it's I think, well, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.960 we don't even need to look back. It's appalling now, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.440 but but it's interesting to see how this will be 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.720 viewed even just a few years from now, Like, really, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.160 it's kind of nuts. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.400 I think about these like five extremely wealthy people. I'm 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.400 always like, isn't there one child in one of those 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.960 families that's like Dad, this doesn't seem like the right 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.520 thing to do. Or they're all just greed driven psychos. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.960 You know, it's so interesting you say that, I don't 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.800 is this. I don't think there's anything wrong with revealing this. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:26.480 I had Lloyd Blankfine, who was running Goldman Sachs I 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.520 think I had that right, came by CBS where I work, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.280 and there was talk about doing a piece on him, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:39.320 and he mentioned that his kids say to him it's 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.800 hard to have a job in the service industry and 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:47.240 to support yourself. And he was candid and he said 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.920 what he told his kids, which is, well, you just 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.880 have to work harder. Like he didn't feel that the 0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:01.880 system was fundamentally flawed. He also thought, I think what 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.679 a lot of that. There are obviously people who think 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:12.480 this that taxes are largely wasted. I think the example, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.600 and I want to be fair here the example he said, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.160 when you would just go through like the Midtown Tunnel, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.040 that the money that you're spending is allocated, you know, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.720 both to municipal and state government, it doesn't make sense. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.400 A lot of it is just wasted. So I don't 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.840 know anyway, but he seemed pretty comfortable with how things stand. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.320 Yeah, I think you just get to that spot and 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.160 completely forget. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:34.520 Yeah. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.199 Yeah, did you have prior to your career becoming your career, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.560 did you have any day jobs or service jops. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.800 Yeah, I delivered pizza for a while. I was, you know, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.080 a movie theater usher. When I first got out of college, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.800 I had two jobs waiting tables. I worked at pizzeria 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.560 UNO's during the day in Georgetown, and at night I 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.200 was a roller skating waiter at a place called Lenny Swass, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.080 which was you know, I grew up in DC, and 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.640 that's where I went right after I finished school, just 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.520 for a while to earn money to move to New York. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.040 And this restaurant where the waiters roller skated and sang 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.400 was sort of Washington's version of Wacky and Inzany, which 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.320 of course was Sostogian, not that Zany and roller blades 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.920 had just come in and one waiter, I think it 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.880 was the head waiter, was on roller blade, which was 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.000 really great. Yeah, but it was actually a lot safer 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.120 to just be on the four wheeled roller skates because 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.800 if you got nervous, if you were carings of say 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.600 a bowl of hot French onion soup, and you thought, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.000 oh my god, you could just sort of step like 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.160 kind of walk around because they were the four wheeled 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:45.200 ones clumpy. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.200 Yeah. Were you a natural roller skater before you got 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:48.640 the job? 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.400 I had been, because I liked to roller skate in 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.960 the basement, or as my father would called a seller 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.440 of our house. And my father played the trumpet, and 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:02.000 so he would play the trumpet Dixie Land jazz while 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:07.080 I would roller skate in the cellar, pretending I was 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.760 Dorothy Hamill at Innsbruck, Austria in nineteen seventy six, because 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.080 there was a pole in the middle, and so I 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.480 could grab the pole and just spin in a way 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.280 like I could pretend I was doing a seal cow 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.040 or a toe loop, or what's the other one. There's 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.240 a triple sell cow, the toe loop and there's one. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.800 There's a third one I'm forgetting. Yeah, there's like three 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.120 of them. But anyway, and our dryer didn't work for 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.800 a long time. I don't know why. We just didn't 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.960 get a new one anyway, But so we would hang 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.840 sheets and clothes and clotheslines in the cellar. But what 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.680 you could do then if you were roller skating through 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.000 the cellar is it felt like Xanadu basically like Olivia John. Yeah, 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.320 going through like you know, just going through sheets and 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.080 towels that were hanging there like. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:53.240 Like a haunted house. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:59.840 Well, I guess so many ways, yes, but yeah, it 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.080 was to be able to skate through that. There were 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.240 constant reveals by doing that, uh huh? 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.080 And are exciting really training you for the obstacles of 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:07.760 a restaurant? 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:08.800 Yeah? 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.120 I guess. So I never listened. I never dropped a play. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.120 Did when you applied for the job, did they just 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.720 ask you can you roller skate? Or did you have 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.200 to demonstrate? You know? 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.000 I think I had sort of an old showbized streak, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.000 which was sort of like just say you can do it. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.360 You also had to sing, and so I sang a song, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.560 a Tom Lair song called the Masochism tango. So the 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.400 idea was that you'd serve, you know, the diners, and 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.520 then you'd get up and you'd sing. The waiters would 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.120 all sing different things, and the restaurant was on its 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.920 last legs at that point. It was holding on to 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:45.880 this that that Elizabeth Taylor during her penultimate marriage I 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.440 think that's right, was to Senator John Warner. So she 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.240 had had a DC phase and she liked going to 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.360 this restaurant. So they really held onto it. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.360 But this was like that over lasts so long. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.080 Yeah, you can't stop after that exactly. It's like she'd 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.760 moved on to the to the construction worker, to Larry 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.880 Fourtenski by this point. So it was, oh, Liz Taylor 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.240 likes Lenny Swass and it's like, yeah, but that was 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.200 over ten years ago. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.840 Forget it. Yeah, I mean it was the quality of 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:11.560 food horrible. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.639 I think it was fine, Yeah, it was okay. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.280 And while you've were I mean, I feel like when 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.440 I'm on roller skates or rollerblades, I have a very 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.560 hard time not being happy. But I feel like when 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.960 you're at work, that's got to be such a confusing 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.639 journey emotionally. Were you mad to be at work or 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:29.440 was it a fun time? 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.320 No? No, I was twenty two, so I wasn't mad 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.600 to be at work. I was a little nervous because 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:43.320 the carpet would sometimes wrinkle and that's really dangerous. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.879 A really flat car. Oh what are they doing? 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.720 Yeah, So I mean this was really hazardous. And it 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.439 was a very stressful timecause during the day I was 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.439 working at pizzer Rihounos where they had the five it 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.920 was something like the five minute lunch, and so you'd 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.919 have to get the And I experienced this with and 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.280 I think it's illegal now with delivering pizza where if 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.800 you didn't get the pizza to the person in thirty minutes, 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.080 the delivery, you know, and they'd be standing at the door. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.399 It was called pisa movers. It was a poor man's 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.760 like dominoes. And I think that's illegal now because people 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.560 were crashing into each other, you know, and of course, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.879 like you know, running over people so that you wouldn't 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.280 get docked. But Pizza r UNO's had a five minute lunch. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.520 Five minutes, yeah, so from the time you ordered the 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.639 express lunch. From the time you ordered it, you were 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.000 supposed to get your lunch. I can't remember the exact time. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.679 I think it was five or ten minutes. But that 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.280 was very stressful during the day, and I think they 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.840 would dock your pay if you were late a certain 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.320 number of times, so stressful. So yeah, during the day 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.600 I was racing against the clock and at night I 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.560