1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: But you're a guest to my home. 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: your presences presence enough, and I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: So how do you. 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: Dare to surbey me? Welcome to, I said, no Gifts. 7 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: I'm Pritchard Wine girl. We're in the backyard. I hope 8 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: you're enjoying yourself. I hope you're having a nice time 9 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: and whatever casino you're currently in, just sitting there with 10 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: a cigarette dangling out of your mouth or whatever you're doing. 11 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: My lunch tasted weird. Let's get into the podcast. I 12 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: adore today's guest. He's just so funny. It's Moroka Mo. 13 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, Okaifts. 14 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here. I never saw Eat, Pray, Love, 15 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: but I feel like she probably went to a place 16 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 4: like this at some point. 17 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: This backyard. 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's like, what is this a palazzo? It's something. 19 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: It's if I had been brought here blindfolded, and I 20 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: won't say that I wasn't and I would. I'm not 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 4: sure I know where I was that. 22 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: We want to just disorient the guests. That's the entire 23 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: purpose of this backyard. Just leave them feeling very confused 24 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: and dizzy. 25 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: And I am, is this the Shangri Law neighborhood of 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Los Angeles. 27 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: You're in town for just a few days. What have 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: you been up to? 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: You know, I've just been driving into I was on 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: KTLA this morning fall. 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: That's exciting. 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: It was exciting. They have so much fun on that 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: morning show. The amount of time they devoted to the 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: masked singer. I just I thought, this is where I 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: want to be right now. The world's on fire, and 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: I mean this, I mean, they were just having a 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: great time and they brought me on set, and I 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: just thought, my teeth are just not white enough to 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: be here. I mean, they're not and I'm embarrassed. I'm 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: okay with my teeth being a little askew, right, but 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: they are not right enough. Yeah. 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: I feel like morning shows. I'm surprised they don't check 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: teeth at the door, right. That feels I mean, everybody 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: on the glowing. 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 4: Teeth gleaming like it comes like with a sound. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: Effect, right. I don't know that teeth bleaching is in 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: my life. 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: Teeth white bleaching. 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: White, Yeah, whitening. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think you need it. I can tell 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: right now. 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: Well, you know my teeth, but they're like a natural 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: tooth color, I would assume, or I know, but you 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: see people with white teeth and you're like, am I 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: doing this wrong? 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 5: Or right? 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Maybe it's all right? 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: Well, I wonder if you if do you happen to 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: have one of those Sherman Williams kind of what are the. 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: Wheel of paint sample thing? Yeah? 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: The sample things? What a crew? Is that the color 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: the teeth should be? 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: Oh? A crew? I've never heard of a crew? Is 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: it kind of an eggshell? Yes? 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: Oh, okay shell. 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: I feel like there should be a whole line of 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: paints just after different types. 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: Of teeth, different types of teeth. But it is crazy 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: how out here everybody has I mean, so many people 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: have the same teeth. 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the teeth that have come from factory. 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: I mean, how are these people going to be identified later? 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I've never thought about that. How 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: does a veneer work as far as the uniqueness of 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: a tooth? Interesting? 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: Right? 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: Yes, well I guess do you maybe? I guess your 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: molars are like the last hope because you probably don't 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: get a veneer on your molar. 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: Probably not. Did I have those taken out? I can't remember. 81 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: I had my wisdom teeth taking down to different than 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: my molars. 83 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: Do you remember when you had your wisdom teeth? 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I do remember, because you had to. I don't 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: know if they still do it the same way, but 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: I was living in Dallas. Dallas is of course where 87 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: you get your wisdom teeth taken out. That's why I 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: moved there. I mean, I was anticipating it's a must. 89 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: The New York Times thirty six hours in Dallas, have 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: your wisdom teeth taken out. And you know, back then, 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: back then in the nineties, you had to have someone 92 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: that would It's like someone picking you up from your colonoscopy. 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: You had to have somebody that was going to pick 94 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: you up after your wisdom teeth were taken out and 95 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: be with you if you were single. And at the 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: time I was single and my friend Stephanie was like 97 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: watching over me. And I don't know how long I 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: was in a Hayes four, but I do remember. Sorry, 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: this is really graphic. I remember. Actually I never haven't 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: thought about this since the nineties. I had to go 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: to the bathroom in the middle of the night, and 102 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: and I went and I sat down, and I was 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: so tired from the antesesia. I guess that when I 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: was sitting down, Oh my god, what's happening. 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: The helicopters here. They're here too early. We were going 106 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: to send you out on the copter, but they'll just wait. 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: So you're waking up in the middle of the night. 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I had to relieve myself. I was just 109 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: going to pee, and but I was sitting down because 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: I was just sort of be in a haze. Actually 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 4: I do that all the time anyway. But and I 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: rested my elbows like on my knees and and my 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: head like in one hand, basically, just as I was 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: sort of tired. And there are little stitches that they 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: put in there, and they kind of came on. I 116 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: think they came undone, yeah, because I applied so much 117 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: pressure on them. 118 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: And then I mean it was like gushing blood. What happened. 119 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: It wasn't really, it was just a little taste. 120 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: Well then it was a little midnight snack. 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. And then I went and had some sorbet just 122 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: as a palate lenser. 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, wisdom teeth removal is the one time I've ever 124 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: been put out completely and it's a that part of 125 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: it is a very exciting experience. 126 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: I love that part of it. Now when you have 127 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: and when you have an upper giendoscopy, also they put 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: you do they put you out for the colon? They 129 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: put you out. They put you out for the one 130 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: that goes in your throat. 131 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Oh okay, right, and not for a colonauster They don't. 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: But if you have them at the same time, if 133 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: it's a two camera shoot, they do, which I have. 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: And I always wonder about the coverage of it, like 135 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: are the cameras going to see each other on editing? 136 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, solve all of those problems. 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: Well, but you get to make sure not to cross 138 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: the line. I think that's what the DP will tell 139 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: you if you if you if you have a really 140 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: good insurance, Planet comes with the DP. 141 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: It's covered by the guild. This is a union approved shoot, right, Okay. 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: So you were saying that they were talking about the 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: mask singer this morning. Were you able to contribute to 144 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: that conversation at all. 145 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't. I acknowledged it because I think it was 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: important to acknowledge that they've been talking about it, and 147 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: then we started talking about famous people who died in 148 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: the same day, because that's why they had be come 149 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: on to talk to us. 150 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: Died in the same day, well. 151 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: June twenty fifth, twenty nine, when Pharaoh Faucet and Michael 152 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: Jackson died. Right, Yeah, I felt so bad for you know, 153 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: she had the first half of the day depending on 154 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: where you lived, like on the East Coast, she had 155 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: most of the waking hours in La. She really got 156 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: screwed over. I mean, she did die that day, so 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: she was technically already it was a lousy day for her, 158 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: but it got worse when Michael Jackson overshadowed her. 159 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Right, my wife came on the record. 160 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like really pushed off the front page. 161 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 162 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: The next day on CBS's Early Show More Morning Show, 163 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson was mentioned over one hundred times. Fair foss 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: I got six mentions, Oh my god. And Ed McMahon 165 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: had died two days before and people. 166 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: Had already forgot forget what he's a shadow at that point. Wow, 167 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 3: one hundred versus six. 168 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it was a shock with him, right, Like, 169 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: she had been sick, she had been ill. We knew 170 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: she was ill and she really also, I mean, she 171 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: did a reality show at the end about the cancer 172 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: she was living with, which is anal cancer, which at 173 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: the time no one wanted to mention, and to her 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: great credit, she mentioned it her She talked about it 175 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: explicitly and that was good. 176 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: And then here comes Michael just forget all about. 177 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: It, yes, like moon offing right into her shot, like, yeah, 178 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: but it's happened. It's happened a lot. I mean, you know, 179 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: Margaret Thatcher and a net Fuinicello died in the same day. 180 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I imagine Margaret was the big big ticket 181 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: there for print. 182 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: It was because she was an important death and it 183 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: was obviously, but a net Funicello I think she was 184 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: like she was such a big deal in the fifties 185 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: and sixties, Like it's like you teach Selena Gomez and 186 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: who's what the high school musical the Vanessa Hudgens, Oh right, 187 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: and multiply that by like orders of magnitude bigger. I mean, 188 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: she was so big. So for baby boomers, I think 189 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: it was kind of like, we should be talking about 190 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: Margaret Thatcher, but we want to be talking about a 191 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: net Finicello, Right, what year was that? Uh, oh gosh, 192 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: when did they die? It was before Meryl Street made 193 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: the movie. Oh, okay, I don't have the I don't 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: have the year for you thirteen us it was twenty thirteen. 195 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: Wow. For whatever reason, neither of these crossed my desk. 196 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: I don't remember either of them dying, and that's crazy. 197 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: Those are both big deaths. 198 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Were you having your wisdom teeth taken out that day? 199 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: There was an hour that I don't remember from that day, 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: and it's the hour I'm usually online, so maybe that's 201 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: what happened. Yeah, that's really fascinating. 202 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: Oh, it is interesting who gets well sometimes? You know, 203 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: some of these the coverage really holds up. Like Jim 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Henson and Sammy Davis Junior died on the same day, right, 205 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 4: I mean, just two brilliant creative talents, and the newspapers, 206 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: if you look back at them, they were side by 207 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: side for the most part. The television coverage it was 208 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 4: usually like two great Hollywood or you know, the the 209 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: legends of television Hollywood died left us today and it 210 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: was appropriate. And I think, even looking back now, it's like, yes, 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: that makes sense. I don't know who I would have 212 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: given lead coverage to. 213 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: Right and remind me of what Jim I remember him dying. 214 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: What did he die of? 215 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: He died? It was it was a kind of pneumonia. 216 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the time at the time, 217 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: people thought, oh, it was this HIV is an a 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: It's like, it's this euphemistic and it was not. He 219 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: had an infection and was it a bacterial infection? 220 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I have like a weird, foggy memory 221 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: of it being strep throat, which can't possibly be true. 222 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: Wait it is, yeah, streptocockle toxic shock syndrome caused by 223 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: a strap. 224 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah god, and I really yeah, thank you for that boy, 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: for that fact check. I'm embarrassed. And I called it pneumonia. 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: I think we thought it was pneumonia at first. 227 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: Sorry anyway, Wow, that I've held onto that information that 228 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: long and almost no other. 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: Information amazing that you knew that that is. 230 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like a like a weird childhood logic, 231 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: where like I had had strep throat, so that would 232 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: I imagine that would kill someone. But I guess I 233 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: just had a personal attachment to strep throat and it 234 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: stuck with me. 235 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: Well, I could have also had something to do with 236 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: your attachment to the Muppets. Well, certain, I mean, I 237 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: mean it was I mean, it was a really it 238 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: was a real shocker. 239 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah right, it was a shock, right because he was 240 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: fairly young. 241 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and he like apparently walked into an emergency 242 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: rooms that I'm not feeling. Wow, oh my god. Yeah, 243 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: I mean it's really terrible. I mean, his junior had 244 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: been ill for a long time, he'd throat cancer and 245 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: they had a huge send off on ABC with you know, 246 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: Gregor Hines danced with him when he could barely stand up, 247 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 4: and it was pretty amazing. 248 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: Right, Wow, what a day, what a memory? 249 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 250 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, what have you been doing to fill your days? 251 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: Has the strike affected you at all? 252 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: No, I'm fortunate because I work in news and it's 253 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: covered under a different contract, right yeah, So yeah. 254 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: It's only affected you as far as you're watching it all. 255 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: Unfold, yes, exactly. 256 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: And hopefully by the time this releases, the sex strike 258 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: will be over. But as of today, it's just all 259 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: blown up again, which is. 260 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: I read that, and it's terrible, and I mean I'm 261 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: not saying anything new here, but boy, the amounts of 262 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: money that the heads of these company make oh, I mean, 263 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: I think we'll look back and it's I think, well, 264 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: we don't even need to look back. It's appalling now, 265 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: but but it's interesting to see how this will be 266 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: viewed even just a few years from now, Like, really, 267 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: it's kind of nuts. 268 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: I think about these like five extremely wealthy people. I'm 269 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: always like, isn't there one child in one of those 270 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: families that's like Dad, this doesn't seem like the right 271 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: thing to do. Or they're all just greed driven psychos. 272 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's so interesting you say that, I don't 273 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: is this. I don't think there's anything wrong with revealing this. 274 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: I had Lloyd Blankfine, who was running Goldman Sachs I 275 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: think I had that right, came by CBS where I work, 276 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: and there was talk about doing a piece on him, 277 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: and he mentioned that his kids say to him it's 278 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: hard to have a job in the service industry and 279 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: to support yourself. And he was candid and he said 280 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: what he told his kids, which is, well, you just 281 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: have to work harder. Like he didn't feel that the 282 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: system was fundamentally flawed. He also thought, I think what 283 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: a lot of that. There are obviously people who think 284 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: this that taxes are largely wasted. I think the example, 285 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: and I want to be fair here the example he said, 286 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: when you would just go through like the Midtown Tunnel, 287 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: that the money that you're spending is allocated, you know, 288 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: both to municipal and state government, it doesn't make sense. 289 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: A lot of it is just wasted. So I don't 290 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: know anyway, but he seemed pretty comfortable with how things stand. 291 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you just get to that spot and 292 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: completely forget. 293 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 294 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you have prior to your career becoming your career, 295 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: did you have any day jobs or service jops. 296 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I delivered pizza for a while. I was, you know, 297 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: a movie theater usher. When I first got out of college, 298 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: I had two jobs waiting tables. I worked at pizzeria 299 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: UNO's during the day in Georgetown, and at night I 300 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: was a roller skating waiter at a place called Lenny Swass, 301 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: which was you know, I grew up in DC, and 302 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: that's where I went right after I finished school, just 303 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: for a while to earn money to move to New York. 304 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: And this restaurant where the waiters roller skated and sang 305 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: was sort of Washington's version of Wacky and Inzany, which 306 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: of course was Sostogian, not that Zany and roller blades 307 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: had just come in and one waiter, I think it 308 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: was the head waiter, was on roller blade, which was 309 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: really great. Yeah, but it was actually a lot safer 310 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: to just be on the four wheeled roller skates because 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: if you got nervous, if you were carings of say 312 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: a bowl of hot French onion soup, and you thought, 313 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: oh my god, you could just sort of step like 314 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: kind of walk around because they were the four wheeled 315 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: ones clumpy. 316 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Were you a natural roller skater before you got 317 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: the job? 318 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: I had been, because I liked to roller skate in 319 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: the basement, or as my father would called a seller 320 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: of our house. And my father played the trumpet, and 321 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: so he would play the trumpet Dixie Land jazz while 322 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: I would roller skate in the cellar, pretending I was 323 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: Dorothy Hamill at Innsbruck, Austria in nineteen seventy six, because 324 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: there was a pole in the middle, and so I 325 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: could grab the pole and just spin in a way 326 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: like I could pretend I was doing a seal cow 327 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: or a toe loop, or what's the other one. There's 328 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: a triple sell cow, the toe loop and there's one. 329 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: There's a third one I'm forgetting. Yeah, there's like three 330 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: of them. But anyway, and our dryer didn't work for 331 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: a long time. I don't know why. We just didn't 332 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: get a new one anyway, But so we would hang 333 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: sheets and clothes and clotheslines in the cellar. But what 334 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: you could do then if you were roller skating through 335 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: the cellar is it felt like Xanadu basically like Olivia John. Yeah, 336 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: going through like you know, just going through sheets and 337 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: towels that were hanging there like. 338 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Like a haunted house. 339 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: Well, I guess so many ways, yes, but yeah, it 340 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: was to be able to skate through that. There were 341 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: constant reveals by doing that, uh huh? 342 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: And are exciting really training you for the obstacles of 343 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: a restaurant? 344 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 345 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: I guess. So I never listened. I never dropped a play. 346 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: Did when you applied for the job, did they just 347 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: ask you can you roller skate? Or did you have 348 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: to demonstrate? You know? 349 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: I think I had sort of an old showbized streak, 350 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: which was sort of like just say you can do it. 351 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: You also had to sing, and so I sang a song, 352 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: a Tom Lair song called the Masochism tango. So the 353 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: idea was that you'd serve, you know, the diners, and 354 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: then you'd get up and you'd sing. The waiters would 355 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: all sing different things, and the restaurant was on its 356 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: last legs at that point. It was holding on to 357 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: this that that Elizabeth Taylor during her penultimate marriage I 358 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: think that's right, was to Senator John Warner. So she 359 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: had had a DC phase and she liked going to 360 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: this restaurant. So they really held onto it. 361 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: But this was like that over lasts so long. 362 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't stop after that exactly. It's like she'd 363 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: moved on to the to the construction worker, to Larry 364 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: Fourtenski by this point. So it was, oh, Liz Taylor 365 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: likes Lenny Swass and it's like, yeah, but that was 366 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: over ten years ago. 367 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: Forget it. Yeah, I mean it was the quality of 368 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: food horrible. 369 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: I think it was fine, Yeah, it was okay. 370 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: And while you've were I mean, I feel like when 371 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm on roller skates or rollerblades, I have a very 372 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: hard time not being happy. But I feel like when 373 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: you're at work, that's got to be such a confusing 374 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: journey emotionally. Were you mad to be at work or 375 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: was it a fun time? 376 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: No? No, I was twenty two, so I wasn't mad 377 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: to be at work. I was a little nervous because 378 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: the carpet would sometimes wrinkle and that's really dangerous. 379 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: A really flat car. Oh what are they doing? 380 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean this was really hazardous. And it 381 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 4: was a very stressful timecause during the day I was 382 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: working at pizzer Rihounos where they had the five it 383 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: was something like the five minute lunch, and so you'd 384 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: have to get the And I experienced this with and 385 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: I think it's illegal now with delivering pizza where if 386 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: you didn't get the pizza to the person in thirty minutes, 387 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: the delivery, you know, and they'd be standing at the door. 388 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: It was called pisa movers. It was a poor man's 389 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: like dominoes. And I think that's illegal now because people 390 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: were crashing into each other, you know, and of course, 391 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: like you know, running over people so that you wouldn't 392 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: get docked. But Pizza r UNO's had a five minute lunch. 393 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: Five minutes, yeah, so from the time you ordered the 394 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 4: express lunch. From the time you ordered it, you were 395 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: supposed to get your lunch. I can't remember the exact time. 396 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: I think it was five or ten minutes. But that 397 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: was very stressful during the day, and I think they 398 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: would dock your pay if you were late a certain 399 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: number of times, so stressful. So yeah, during the day 400 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: I was racing against the clock and at night I 401 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: was just hoping not to burn someone to death. 402 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, ten minute pizza delivery feels like a physical impossibility 403 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: unless you live next year. 404 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: This was sorry, this is pizza huas in the restaurant. 405 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: Oh this is I'm imagining you driving around town in 406 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: an absolute panic. 407 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so no, we'd had to live in someplace 408 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: with like pneumatic tubes. We we're just pizza. 409 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: Shot lamming against walls, tomato sauce everywhere. But you were 410 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: a delivery driver prior to this. 411 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: Yes, I was a delivery driver for pizza Movers, and 412 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: I was a waiter in house for Pizza Rica Uno. 413 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: Wow, I really did it all. Yeah, as a pizza 414 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: delivery driver, were there any scary moments? 415 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think because in that case it was 416 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: a it was a thirty minute time limit, and it 417 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: was scary. I mean, it was also kind of thrilling, 418 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: and I think I was driving stick shift, so that 419 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: felt exciting, like you know, doing that kind of a thing. 420 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: And it was a Mazda I think it was a 421 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: car used car that I bought. 422 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just get to listen to music and 423 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: deliver pizza. 424 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 4: I guess it had a radio. 425 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: But there was never like a moment where you pulled 426 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: up to an empty lot, like physically scary. 427 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 4: I don't remember feeling threatened, if that's a tad, right. Yeah, 428 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: I wasn't lured to an address that didn't exist, that 429 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: was just an empty lot. No, I don't think nothing 430 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: like that ever happened. 431 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: Okay, now that would be my big fear there was. 432 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: I believe there was an unsolved mysteries about you know, 433 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: delivery driver pulls up, it's an empty field. That's the 434 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: last we see of them. 435 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that did not. Thankfully, that did not happen 436 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: to me. But I did you know when I worked 437 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: at Pizzeria Uno. It's a place where I was in 438 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: Georgetown where I actually was a waiter. To remember that 439 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: I served a really really big party and at the 440 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: end they didn't jump the check, but they left no tip, 441 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: and it was a minimum if it was six people 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: or more, there was an automatic you were not by law, 443 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: but they would add in oppatuity. And this was a 444 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: probably a party of twelve, and they left nothing, and 445 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: so I went and I told the manager, and I 446 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: remember he ran out with me to the people down 447 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: the street and he got to the head of the 448 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: party and he said, you didn't leave a tap and 449 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 4: you really are supposed to have it six or more. 450 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 4: And the guy looked at him and then turned to 451 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: me and said, with just pity. He just said, I'm sorry, 452 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 4: but he wasn't very good. And I remember then looking 453 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: at the manager and I spread to you, going, he's right. 454 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 4: It was just like it was such a pathetic moment, 455 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: but no defense. I had no defense, and I wasn't 456 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: angry at the guy, but he's right. It took me 457 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: forever to get them what they needed. But I just 458 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 4: remember that he said, I'm just so sorry. He just 459 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: wasn't very good. 460 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm still on your side here, though, even if the services, 461 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: unless the service is like actively, you know, you're attacking 462 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: the customer. Right, everybody realizes how hard all of this is. 463 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: Leave a little. 464 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: Something, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was pretty rough. It 465 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: was I hopefully have built something character I don't know. 466 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: Well, I mean speaking of people just being kind of 467 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: cruel and mindless. Something I'd like to talk to you about. 468 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: Is it about Charles Manson who died on the same 469 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: day as Dela Reese. Yes, which is terrible. Is del 470 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: Reice was great. She was really talented. Delirius is great. 471 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: And even if you're not a touch fine angel person, 472 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: if you are more a doctor Quinn medicine woman person, 473 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: you have to acknowledge her talent. 474 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: She was a presence. 475 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: Her presence, Yes, her presence alone. 476 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: I mean not to say that Charles didn't have a presence. Now. 477 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: I understand Charles Manson haunted people's nightmares. I understand the 478 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: decision to give him more coverage the day that they died. 479 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: But this is when we all need to take a 480 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: step back and say, del Reice chic going the man, 481 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: her greatest hits. She grew up singing with Mehelia Jackson 482 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 4: Touched by an Angel. You may not have liked it, 483 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: but like forty fucking billion people watched it every Sunday night. 484 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: She wasn't involved in that many murders, right. 485 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. 486 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: I feel like we know of it. Yeah, it could 487 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: come out at some point. Maybe she was part of 488 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: the Manson family. Wouldn't that be a reveal? Dela re's 489 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: the lost Manson family member. 490 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: I'd like to think though, if she had been, she 491 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 4: would have set them straight. 492 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: Stop that murdering, Well happened to Charles jailhouse bride? Didn't 493 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: he have a bride? Oh? 494 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: I think he did. 495 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's up to now. 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if she married to one of the 497 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: Menandez brothers, so I don't know. I don't know. 498 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: She is crossing names off a list. I feel like 499 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: I need to get on one of those jail dating 500 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: websites and strike up a romance. 501 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: It's so interesting. It can't be called jay dating. Oh right, 502 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: it's already taken. 503 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: That's taken. Yeah, p dating, prison dating. 504 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: Pee dating. Oh no, that sounds like something else. Yeah, well, 505 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: you know there must be a play on something like 506 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: sing sing or like sing saying now, like Levenworth what 507 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 4: can we do with. 508 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: Levenworth single bars? Yeah, something like that. There's some sort 509 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: of jail. 510 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 4: Yeah block Yeah, alcatractive, they're alcatrackt a you are you 511 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: alcatracted to me? 512 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 5: I mean I found one that's called meat and inmate. 513 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: That feels I don't know. 514 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 5: That's nineteens, nineteen ninety eight. So this sounds like it, 515 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 5: you know, is a little bit more analog. Love a prisoner, 516 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: write a prisoner, classified inmate mingle dating prisoners. They're not 517 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: very creative with their names. Friends beyond the wall. 518 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: That sounds a little. 519 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 5: Want to be inmates inmate passions. 520 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: Inmate passion, Well, that's okay. 521 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: Can median inmates connect? 522 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: Wow? The options are there's a bounty of options if 523 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: you want to get with a prisoner, good, wonderful, adopt, 524 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: don't shop this sort of thing. Um, well, it feels 525 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: like you're really trying to throw the podcast. If you're 526 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: trying to the podcast is called I said no gifts. 527 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: I was very excited to have you here today. 528 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: Well, but I like it's the way I was raised. 529 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 4: I couldn't come here without a gift. It's just not 530 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: who I am. 531 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: I looks down the driveway and you're holding Yes, it's 532 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: clearly a gift. 533 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: Yes, I wanted to Well, I'm just going to give. 534 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: It to you. Okay, it's a it's in a white bag. 535 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: It's in a white, very. 536 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: Classy looking bag. Should I open it? Here? On the podcast. 537 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: I really, I really wish you would. I really wish 538 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 4: you would. As you can see, I brought it in. 539 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: A bag from from the four seasons. 540 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: From the Beverly Wilshire four season. 541 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: Incredible is the gift inside from the four seasons. 542 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: It is from the four seasons. 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna reach in here and okay, there's some tissue. 544 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, here we go. So there's some tissue. We're 545 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: getting that on the mic, I'm unwrapping, unwrapping. Oh, it's 546 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: a towel. 547 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: It is a hand hotel towel. It is a hand 548 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 4: towel from the Beverly Willshare and you know the Beverly 549 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: Will Share. It just has such an amazing history. And 550 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 4: you know, I thought, and I actually have a brochure 551 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: here and I want to include it the Beverly Will Share. 552 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: You know, that's a map of LA Subway. Sorry. The 553 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: Beverly Willshare was built in January nineteen twenty eight, and 554 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: it is it's no stranger to fame as celebrities, royalty 555 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: and the international elite have all stayed here. And you know, 556 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 4: I started thinking of all the amazing people who have 557 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: used that hand towel you know, I thought, you know, 558 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 4: Herbert Hoover would be elected soon after it open, and 559 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: I suspect that he might have used that hand hole. 560 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: He sweated a lot. 561 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, before you go any further, I should 562 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: say the podcast is sponsored by Travel Lodge. But we 563 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: can continue, we can keep talking. So this is actually 564 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: like a room towel. 565 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: It is a room hand towel. 566 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: And did you tell the hotel staff I need a 567 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: gift bag. I need to wrap this up because it's 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: clearly been wrapped by somebody. 569 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 4: I told them that I needed a bag and some 570 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: tissue paper, and I just assumed they would surmise he 571 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 4: didn't fur the rest that I was going to be 572 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: gifting one of their historic hand towels. You know, nineteen 573 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: twenty eight was the end of the silent era, so 574 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: I think that Greta Garbo may have used that hand 575 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: howel as a silent film actress. And when she went 576 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: and did a Christie and you know, and Camille and 577 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: all of her great early sound work. 578 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 3: And all the sweatings she did when she realized I've 579 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: got it to make the transition. How will this affect 580 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: my career? 581 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I can just see it right now that 582 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: she was so nervous about how she would sound in 583 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: her first sound test. 584 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: Still audiences accepted. 585 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: Yes. And she wiped her face with that towel, and 586 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: as she it dropped down, she looked in the mirror 587 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: and annalis, what's the first thing? She said? It was 588 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: an anti Christie Gretigorpa's first words were I want another 589 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 4: Scotch or I give me a Vodkas stinger. Now that's 590 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: onlein stretch. What did she say? She wanted to drink, 591 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: Give me another one and make it whatever one coke zero. 592 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: Please give me a whiskey ginger ale on the side, 593 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: and don't be stingy baby. 594 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: Yes, and she practiced that as she finished wiping the 595 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: sweat from her brows. 596 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: Elle was sopping wet at this point. 597 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: Yes. In nineteen seventy they added a Mediterranean style pool 598 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: modeled on Sophia Loren's pool at her villa in Italy. 599 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: And I like to think of Sophia Lorenz coming and using. 600 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: That towel, this single towel. I mean, it's been used 601 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: by stars galore. 602 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: It has been used by stars, It's been involved in scandals. 603 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: I think Daddy Arbuckle, I think used it to soak 604 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: up the blood. No, I'm sorry, he actually was wrongly acute. 605 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: Sorry scratch out from the record, but I'm sure that 606 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: it's been Yeah, well, Pretty Woman was filmed at the 607 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: Beverly will Share a lot of it was filmed there. 608 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: So Richard and Julia, have you they have touched that towel. 609 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: They've probably shared the towel. 610 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably shared the towel, both. 611 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: Washing their hands, going headed to craft services. Yes, I 612 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: need to dry off. Seems like I really do believe 613 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: it's probably been found in at least the hands of 614 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: one corpse. When you're a towel at a hotel. 615 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: When you're a towel at a hotel, you're part of 616 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: a crime. 617 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: Scene, you will be I mean, the chances have been 618 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: part of a crime scene are through the roof. 619 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, let's I think of all the things 620 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 4: that might have happened. I mean, I wonder if that 621 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: towel had any was touched by any member of the 622 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: Manson family. I hope not. I don't think they were 623 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: saying will Share. 624 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: They probably passed through the past through Yeah, so certainly 625 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: they were also at the fourth season. 626 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, No, it's amazing what happened. You know, Shirley 627 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: Temple saved twentieth century Fox during the thirties, and I 628 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: hope that they at least offered her a towel. I mean, 629 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: after all she did for them. 630 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: She had her hair wrapped up in this. 631 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: That you make such a great point, for sure, because 632 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: usually you need a whole bath sheet to do the 633 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: whole thing where you're wrapping the turban thing that you do. Right, 634 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: But she was so little. 635 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: Now, when you're a child, when you're a child. 636 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yes, as little Nellie Kelly or when she 637 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: sang on the good Ship Lollipop, you know. And she 638 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: probably showered between takes or something. And it was over 639 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: several days probably, It's. 640 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: Like it's famous for showering between takes. She would take. 641 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: It was crazy, well, she was, Yes, she really sweated 642 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 4: a lot. She would shine a lot, so she'd very 643 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: active swack Lands early in life. And I'd like to 644 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: think that she could have used that towel as a 645 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: hand towel to do that turbin thing. 646 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: I haven't done that in a long time. I should 647 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: do that around the house. 648 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: It's so great, it's so great. Well, then you can 649 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: pretend that you're in an ad from the nineteen seventies. 650 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: It can say I'm rule a Lenska. 651 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: Eating my grapefruit in the morning light. Something like that. 652 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, I have cottage cheese in 653 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: my fridge right now. That's a real food to be 654 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: eating in the towel turbine, certainly. Oh yeah. 655 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: And I also think like, I'm wondering, do you have 656 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: any pets. 657 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: I have a dog. 658 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: A dog's head is small enough to do a turban 659 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: wrap with a hand towel. 660 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: It's ideal. Absolutely, I'm sure my dog will be perfect 661 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: with that. She'll be perfectly fine. She loves things on 662 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: her head. And then we wrap a towel up. I 663 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: put that on my head, put a towel around my waist. 664 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: I've got the landline, the cords stretching all over the house. 665 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: I can imagine myself doing that right now. 666 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: It would be great, you know. And I didn't want 667 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: to get you a facecloth because I think it's kind 668 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: of gross cloth. 669 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: I mean the makeup. You've got people's pores, black heads 670 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: all over that thing. People have been wiping their teeth 671 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: on it. 672 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: Oh no, absolutely no, No, this is a handheld the 673 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: hands of only the most glamorous people that have passed 674 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: through the Beverly wheel Share for almost one hundred years. 675 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: Do you enjoy staying in a hotel? 676 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: If I can get the pillows right, Oh, if I 677 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: can get the pillows right. I'm having some neck issues 678 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: and I need the pillows to support my cervical curve 679 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: in just the right way. And at home, I have 680 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: three pillows that I know how to arrange perfectly to 681 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: make that happen to create the ridge that I need 682 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: for my cervical curve. And even at a glamorous place 683 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 4: like the Four Seasons and Beverly willl Share, I can't 684 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: quite get it right. But I do like saying, yeah, 685 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: I like staying in hotels. 686 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good feeling. I love being in a hotel. 687 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: I mean the towels are such a huge part of it. Yeah, 688 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: being able to use towel after towel, I mean it's 689 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: very wasteful. 690 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: Well, no, and to know that, you know you're drying 691 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: off with a towel that Adelaie Stevenson used, you know, 692 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: when he accepted the nomination for president in nineteen fifty six. 693 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: You can't help but feel glamorous. 694 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean he lost, so you might. You know, 695 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: you have mixed feelings drying off of that towel. 696 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: But it's still an honor to have the towel on. No, 697 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: I like the towel. The pillow thing. I feel like 698 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: some hotels are finally catching on. They're like, people want 699 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: a sturdier pillow. You can tell hotels a little more 700 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: modern that they're a little with the times. If the 701 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: pillow doesn't immediately flatten under your head. 702 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's right. I think that's right. I 703 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: also find that a little odd well that some of 704 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: the the I don't know what you call the pillows 705 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: that are used over the pillows, sort of the ones 706 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: that are wordless. Well, so in the bed that I'm 707 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: currently in right now at the Beverly Wilshire, there are 708 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: I think, like two sort of pillow proper pillows, proper 709 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: I should call them, right, It's like attorney's general pillows 710 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: proper okay. But then over them are two big square 711 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: pillows with kind of a ridge, and those are sort 712 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: of like almost the equivalent of a bed spread, like 713 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: the decorative pillows. But I need to deploy I need 714 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 4: to include those pillows in the mix. 715 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: You use them. 716 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: I use them, and those are generally a little denser. 717 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: They're also they're big square shaped pillows. Kind of suddenly 718 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: having a flash to them. When I took home EC 719 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: in eighth grade and we had to sew a nine 720 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 4: paneled front right three by three on two our pillows. 721 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 4: We were making pillows quilts over the pillow. Yeah, and 722 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: you could chat during that. You can just you were 723 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: allowed to sort of just chat. And the teacher, I 724 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: wish I could remember her name. She was older, and 725 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: she just didn't like me. And I think it made 726 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 4: have been that the corners of my panels weren't quite, 727 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: weren't perfect. My friend Mario could do it perfectly, I 728 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 4: mean perfectly. 729 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: Some people have it, some. 730 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 4: People out and I didn't have it. And then I 731 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: remember I once said, my father said that Hetty Lamar 732 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: was the most beautiful actress in Hollywood. And then the 733 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 4: teacher homeback she said Hetty Lamar was beautiful, but she 734 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: was not the most beautiful actress in Hollywood. Ingrid Bergman was. 735 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: And I just and even at the time, I thought, 736 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: all right, you can sort of you can refute what 737 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 4: I'm saying, because by saying this is subjective, but you're 738 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 4: saying no, this is actually incorrect. Here is the truth. 739 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: So she wasn't just sharing an opinion yes and saying, well, 740 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: I think she's beautiful, but my personal choice the fact 741 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: that she's attacking a child over this. Yes, there's a 742 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: universal truth. 743 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 4: And the thing is, I don't know if she was wrong. 744 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. 745 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: No one ever will. 746 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: We can roll the tape, and I mean, can we 747 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 4: can examine it. Petty Lamar was beautiful. I'm thinking of 748 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: Tortilla Flat, that movie where she she was miscast as 749 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: a Mexican, but willso was Spencer Tracy. I mean that's 750 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 4: pretty bad, but she was. She was beautiful in the 751 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: way the Jacqueline Smith. Sorry it's just getting weird, but 752 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 4: like jack Smith, Yeah, like in Charlie's Angels. Like I 753 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 4: remember when Jaqueline Smith played Jackie Bouvier Kennedy and my 754 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 4: father came into the room. I was watching that TV 755 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 4: movie and my father went, she's too beautiful to play 756 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 4: Jacqueline One assets. 757 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: You're surrounded by people who are just attacking the women's beauty. 758 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: Well, but I have to say I love people with 759 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: strong opinions about stuff like that. My father went, she's 760 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 4: too beautiful, she's perfect looking, and she's too beautiful. And 761 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 4: then my father then said, he said, I always thought 762 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: this isn't a separate conversation. Lady Bird Johnson was more 763 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: attractive than Jackie Kennedy, and my mother would get very upset. 764 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 4: And even as a child, I understood why my mother 765 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 4: was getting upset because my mother was frod the going, wait, 766 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 4: if that's what you think, what do you think about that? Like, 767 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 4: my father is sort of metric, not metric, but his 768 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: standard was so unconventional right that suddenly it made my mother. 769 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: Insecure as a place her in the scheme of things 770 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: well right, and she. 771 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 4: Was like, no, Jacqueline Kennedy is the most beautiful first lady. 772 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 4: But the thing is that I think that Lady Bird 773 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: Johnson was absolutely enchanting and beguiling. If you listen to 774 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 4: her audio tapes, and this is really gorulish and horrible, 775 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 4: but when she's talking about the assassination, it's just awful. 776 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 4: But her accent is so beautiful. I mean, this is terrible, 777 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: but her accent is so beautiful because she says at 778 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: one point you can find this on the internet and 779 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: she goes in the blood oh missus Kennedy's dress, and 780 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 4: it's horrible. This is horrible, and I'm not laughing about it. 781 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: But it's a beautiful it's a beautiful accent, and she 782 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 4: has this bump on her nose. And I really don't 783 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 4: want to dissect women like this, like, but she has this. 784 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 4: She is like really attractive lady bir Johnson. 785 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: And an unconventional beauty. 786 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: Well, I don't even know that I want to qualify 787 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 4: it that way. I'm sorry, Bridger. I think that she's 788 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: as obvious choice. Fine. I mean, I haven't checked the 789 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: latest gallop pole on this, although I'm sure that they 790 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 4: did poles. 791 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: I feel like Jackie is going to pull ahead in 792 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: all those poles, right of course she of course, she 793 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 3: just assumed. I feel like she's she's a little bit more. 794 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: She's got the name recognition immediately picturing her, the style, 795 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: the grace. 796 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: I think absolutely. And I think that it's just one 797 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: of those things that you just simply say, Okay, yes, 798 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: she was beautiful, and she was great, and she was 799 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: great in many ways, but Lady by Johnson had some 800 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 4: great things about her. Everyone goes, oh, she cared about 801 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 4: wild flowers. It was more the highway beautification, that thing 802 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: that was like a whole environmental thing. She had a 803 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: whole thing worked out, that this was only part of it. 804 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 4: And everyone said, oh, first, lady Lady by Johnson, all 805 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: she cares is highway beautification. That's sweet, that's nice. It 806 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: was really condescending. But she she was an important issue, 807 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: but it was part of also, like she had serious 808 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 4: environmental concerns. 809 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 3: And our highways I mean, they've really fallen apart since 810 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: she got behind and it feels like she died well 811 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: she could be, you know, inspiring people from beyond the grave. 812 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: I feel like we're not getting after litterbugs anymore. I 813 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 3: feel like, until I mean the early thousands, we were 814 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: all worried about littering, and now I don't hear about 815 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: a word about littering. It is, it's out of control. 816 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 4: I wonder if people are people are people littering as 817 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 4: much that I think it's Well, there was that great 818 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: little moment in mad Men, and I wasn't a religious 819 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 4: watcher of mad Men, but you remember Don Draper and 820 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: his wife and the kids go for a picnic and 821 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 4: at the end of it, they just sort of they 822 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: basically leave all the all the crap there. And I 823 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: thought it was such a great little great detail and 824 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 4: it was such and I think that's probably how people 825 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: used to be. We don't care enough about lady bugs. 826 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 4: We were going from lady for Johnson to litterbugs. 827 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 3: Bug. I love a ladybug. I in Chaa. 828 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: My mother loved lady bugs. 829 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 3: It's the only bug people are okay with landing on them. Oh. 830 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 4: Completely. You would have to have a hardest stone. If 831 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 4: you squash a ladybug, you are a serial killer state 832 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 4: of mind? 833 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: Could you possibly? I have to kill that, you know. 834 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 4: And my mother's Colombian and she would I a lady bug, 835 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 4: She would if a ladies. She would be so excited 836 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 4: to see a ladybug when we were kids. And they 837 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 4: are just adorable color and the color. 838 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: And you can buy them by the bag. Have you 839 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: ever seen them in the bag? 840 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 4: What are you serious? 841 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 3: This is true? I remember, I mean maybe it's not 842 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: true anymore, but I remember as a kid, we would 843 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 3: go to the hardware store wherever there would be a 844 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: gardening center and they would just have essentially what was 845 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: a mesh bag full. And this is probably the one 846 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: time where you're like, I don't. Ladybugs are not that 847 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: enchanting right now, because that's a swarm. But they would 848 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 3: just be full of the ladybugs, and then you would 849 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: take them to your garden, release them, and then they 850 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 3: would do their thing. 851 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 4: Because what was their thing? 852 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: I think that they kind of took care of bad bugs, 853 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: which feels interesting. Is there a violent element to a ladybug? 854 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: Am I imagining this? Well? 855 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 4: I always I like to imagine them sort of under 856 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: the spell of Busby Berkeley, like getting together and doing 857 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 4: a collaborate dance. 858 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: It's gorgeous dancing through the air. 859 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 4: Yes, But you know the thing about ladybugs is I 860 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 4: also love lightning bugs. And I wonder if a ladybug, 861 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 4: and they're all ladies, met a male lightning bug and 862 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 4: they had sex, would they produce a ladybug that lit up? 863 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: There were essentially a little gem Oh god go, but 864 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: I would lose my mind if there was a down 865 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: out of those Yes, if there was a ladybug that 866 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: lit up, I mean that would be crazy. 867 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: How have we not crossbred those creatures? 868 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 4: We have to cross breed them right now? It feels 869 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 4: very midsummer night's dream. It feels, it's I love it. 870 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 3: Just swarming trees. Yes, can you cross breed a bug? 871 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: Now that's my big question. You know. 872 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 4: I always thought, and this is so crazy, for the long, 873 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: for an embarrassingly long time in life, I thought that 874 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: all cats were female and all dogs are male. Oh sure, 875 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 4: that's a common now, why is it, And that they 876 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 4: would mate and then if they had like two daughters 877 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 4: and a son, it would be two cats and a 878 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 4: dog would come out. 879 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: I mean, that's how it should be. 880 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: It should be. 881 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: Certainly that makes more logical sense than whatever's happening right now. 882 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I guess we're conditioned as children, 883 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 3: and I have to imagine at this point in history 884 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 3: we're not. You know, we've moved beyond this with gender, 885 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 3: But as a child, I feel like dogs were such 886 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: a masculine thing. Cats were the feminine, so they were 887 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: the women, and we all just believed that they were 888 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 3: boys and girls. 889 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, And I don't mind that. I mean, look, 890 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: I don't know that I want a non binary pet. 891 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I don't want to. I don't want to 892 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 4: get people upset about that. You know, the other thing 893 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: I used to think of it in weird terms of gender. 894 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: Is a table setting. I used to think of like 895 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: a knife as like a handsome man and a spoon, 896 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: which was, I guess is next to the knife usually, 897 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: and the spoon was like like like a lovely sort 898 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: of woman, and they were they were a husband and wife. 899 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 4: And the fork on the other side it was like 900 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 4: a vixen trying to take the knife away. And so 901 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 4: I would cut the meat sometimes before I even understood 902 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 4: how sex worked at all, and when I cut the meat, 903 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 4: I'd have the knife go through. 904 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: The fork is ruining sex for every listener right now. 905 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 4: But I would think of the of the fork as 906 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 4: being like Joan Commins, like this vixen who was trying 907 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 4: to take the knife away. But it's really like the 908 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 4: fork is Glenn Close, the knife is Michael Douglas, and 909 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 4: the spoon is an archer. It's very fatal attraction. 910 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 3: It is the fork has that hair that's the short 911 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 3: kind of it's sexy, dangerous. 912 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 4: She's wicked and she's sexy and you just can't get 913 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 4: enough of her. And then the spoon is curvy and 914 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 4: and yes, and everyone saying how could you do that 915 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 4: to the spoon? Are you are you nuts knife to 916 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 4: do that to you look at that beautiful spoon. But 917 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 4: the fact is that that fork is just so. 918 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: It's a freak. Yes, she's an absolute ferry. 919 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 4: She hasn't the way she's just like, oh were there 920 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 4: times just gets into that meat. 921 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 3: Now. I do believe there's a some sort of nursery 922 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: rhyme or something about the fork running away with the spoon. 923 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: Oh, now there are they. They were like set up 924 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 4: and they were high school. Yeah, they're high school sweethearts. Yes, 925 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 4: she's wearing like his letter sweater and like, yeah. 926 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 3: I think I mean the math of that all adds 927 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,479 Speaker 3: up perfectly. That's absolutely knife man spoon the wife at home. 928 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 3: Fork is gonna wreck everything. 929 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 4: The fork is gonna wreck everything. But be careful because 930 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: the dessert fork is right behind you, honey. So you 931 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 4: take that knife away from that spoon. That dessert fork 932 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 4: is right like is pulling up the rear, and she 933 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: is kind of like she's gonna take that knife away next, 934 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: you know what. 935 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of this, I always like in elementary middle school, 936 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: I always looked at my thumb as David Swimmer. I 937 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 3: always thought that looks like David Swimmer. 938 00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 4: That's so interesting. 939 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 3: Kind of has that hair style. 940 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 4: I feel like your thumb. 941 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 3: My thumb and my big toe. I feel like it's 942 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 3: just like especially when it's cut, it has you know, 943 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 3: he would like push his hair up in the front. 944 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: Oh, that's so interesting because every. 945 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 3: Male member of Friends had the same hairstyle and then 946 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 3: they looked like a thumb. Yeah, or maybe every finger. Actually, 947 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 3: now that I think about it. 948 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 4: Well, I can see it's too bad we don't have 949 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 4: six fingers on a hand, because then you could do 950 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 4: the whole cast. But well, I guess some people anyway with. 951 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 3: Two characters that are probably similar enough that you could 952 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: label one finger them. 953 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: I can see a thumb as David Schwimmer. I think 954 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 4: of all the three guys on Friends, he's the thumb 955 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 4: is the most David Swimmery. 956 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: Right, And then I feel like the ring finger is 957 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: probably Jennifer Aiston. Pinky as Courtney Cox. Middle is uh 958 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: Lisa Kutro. I think she's probably maybe the tallest member 959 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 3: of the cast. 960 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 4: I think she probably is. God, she's so great that 961 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: come back with so. 962 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, what a phenomenal program. 963 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 4: It's just and and the fact that the two seas, 964 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 4: since we're like a decade apart, and. 965 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,959 Speaker 3: It's still good. It's so it is so good. 966 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 4: It is so good. 967 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean easily top five television shows for me. Enna 968 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 3: should be for everyone, anyone with any sense at all. 969 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can watch that over and over 970 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: and over. Is she in anything currently? We've got to 971 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 3: get her back on TV. 972 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to get her back on TV or 973 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 4: on stage or something just. 974 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 3: Makes me cackle. Yeah, I think it's time to play 975 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 3: a game. Oh my towel, Yeah, that'll obviously be hanging 976 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 3: somewhere in my house. And you know what, I have 977 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: a tip that I learned recently. I recently switched to 978 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: all white towels and all white sheets. I mean, because 979 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: this is what hotels do. You can bleach them. They 980 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 3: never get dirty. 981 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 4: That is absolutely true. 982 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why this is probably what ninety five years old, 983 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 3: and it looks like it was amazing. 984 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: And listen anytime I want, anytime you go to the 985 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 4: airport to think of this showel because it was once 986 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 4: used by Tom Bradley, former mayor. 987 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm already thinking about him. But the towel, 988 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it's I mean, my mind's going all over 989 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 3: the place. 990 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 4: You know, It is interesting. I have heard I cannot 991 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: verify this, but I have heard that after the nineteen 992 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 4: sixty nine oscars, and I really cannot verify this, and 993 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 4: I analyst may be able to verify it that this 994 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 4: towel was used by both Barbara Streisan and Katherine Hepburn, 995 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 4: who tied for the oscar that year for Funny Girl 996 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 4: in the line in. 997 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: Winter, Analise is nodding their head aggressively. This is probably 998 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: the one fact on this podcast. Yeah, so it's a 999 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: good that. I mean, you know, bring one fact late 1000 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 3: in the game. 1001 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 4: I think what happened was somebody had hosted Gregory Pack 1002 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: had a party and this hand and they both showed 1003 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 4: up with their oscars and they both had to you know. 1004 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: We're both dripped in mud. They needed a shower, yes, 1005 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: And then there was this one towel, right. 1006 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 4: And Shirley Temple Black had brought her own towel. She 1007 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: was Shirley Temple Black at that point, which, by the way, 1008 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: I love Aley Temple but I want to drink the 1009 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 4: adult version of Shirley Temple Black. 1010 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: That is genius. How is that not a thing already? 1011 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 4: Well? I think it's because if you were to put 1012 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 4: koalua with ginger ale and grenadine. It would make you 1013 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 4: throw up and then you need the towel for something else. 1014 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 4: But like, but there's got to be a way to 1015 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 4: do a Shirley Temple black. And you could do it 1016 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 4: if you do grenadine with a coke that's already a 1017 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: Roy Rogers. Talk about gender. When I was a kid, 1018 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 4: I always wanted to order a Shirley Temple and I thought, 1019 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 4: but I'm supposed to order a Roy Rogers. And I 1020 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 4: was like, but I don't want coke with grenadine. I 1021 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 4: want ginger al with grenadine. 1022 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 3: I feel like a Shirley Temple black. There certainly is 1023 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 3: a black cherry soda. Yes, that's I mean, it's the 1024 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 3: it's very simple. 1025 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 4: Black cherry soda with grenadine, which is a little bit 1026 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 4: is that joke on choke or something because you're adding 1027 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 4: like more cherry. 1028 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 3: To it, right, But you're kind of asking for it 1029 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: when you ask for Shirley Temple black. 1030 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 4: A Shirley Temple Black, Yeah, I love. 1031 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the beginning of your bar. Yeah, I mean so. 1032 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 4: Many different Shirley Temples. 1033 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: Okay, we have to play a game. I need to 1034 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: number but two, one and ten from you eight. Okay, 1035 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating right now, so 1036 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 3: you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone. 1037 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 3: I'll be right back. 1038 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 4: Okay. I have a podcast. It's called Obituaries. It's just 1039 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,919 Speaker 4: obituaries with an M in front, and it's I talk 1040 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: about the people and things that have died that I 1041 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 4: think are worth another look. And I don't want to 1042 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 4: be too pushy about it, so I'm just gonna just 1043 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 4: sort of leave it there if you want to listen 1044 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 4: to it, but you don't have to. Seriously, you don't 1045 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 4: have to. 1046 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 3: Perfect if I go listen to most podcasts, it's a 1047 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 3: wonderful idea. We're playing a game called gift Master. This 1048 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 3: is how we play. I'm going to tell you three gifts, 1049 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 3: the three things you can give away, and then three celebrities. 1050 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me which celebrity you would give which 1051 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 3: gift and why that makes perfect sense? 1052 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. 1053 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 3: Okay. The three gifts you'll be giving today are number 1054 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 3: one a serial dispenser, Number two a stylish handbag, and 1055 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: number three a nonprofit under investigation. So you'll be giving 1056 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 3: them to Adam Brody, Raven Simone and Errol Morris. How 1057 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 3: do you feel about that? 1058 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think the obvious, the nonprofit under investigation, 1059 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 4: I think you probably would give to Errol Morris. I 1060 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 4: think it just makes sense because I know that he'll 1061 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 4: be able. He'll do a terrific, compelling hour and a 1062 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: half long interview, just single shot of someone probably explaining 1063 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 4: why the nonprofit that they're running is under investigation. Yes, 1064 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 4: so I think you could get the person responsible. Yeah, yes, 1065 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,479 Speaker 4: and it will look really great. 1066 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 3: It'll look amazing. It'll look amazing, and I think has 1067 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 3: never been more fascinating. 1068 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Yes, No, yeah, and I'll think I'm just 1069 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 4: looking at this one person's face for an hour and 1070 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 4: a half. 1071 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 3: But this is really well done, and we needed these 1072 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 3: answers anyway. 1073 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 4: We need these answers anyway. So the cerial dispenser and 1074 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 4: the stylish handbag I've got. Adam Brody. Now, was he 1075 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 4: the one in the OC or the one in The Pianist? 1076 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 3: He says, Oh, interesting, I wish he was in The Pianist. 1077 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 3: He was in the OC. 1078 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 4: He's in the OC. 1079 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 3: He played you know, the the teen protagonist of the OC. 1080 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 4: You know, he was the guy that is not aggressively 1081 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 4: good looking. He's like normal good. 1082 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: Looking, right, kind of a record store good looking. 1083 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 4: Well, because I remember I once did it a gig 1084 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 4: which was for Axe body Spray. It was a body 1085 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 4: spray deodorant, and they kept saying, I swear to you 1086 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 4: our prototype of the and the person they used as 1087 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 4: a model I swear to you was Adam Brody because 1088 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 4: they didn't want to use a guy in commercials that 1089 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 4: was so perfect looking, right that it would make you 1090 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 4: feel alienated as a potential consumer. They wanted somebody who 1091 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 4: was like kind of tussoled and cute, but more in 1092 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 4: the normal realm, right, as opposed to the la kind 1093 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 4: of freak category of what lab were you created in? 1094 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 4: And I feel like the cereal dispenser is the right 1095 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 4: thing to give him because that would fit. I could 1096 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 4: see him spraying on some acts and having a bowl 1097 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: of cereal. I don't know what. Probably he's surrounding the 1098 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 4: acts before he has a cereal and then goes off 1099 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 4: to school. I want to keep Adam Brody as a 1100 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 4: teenager because that's how we remember him. But is he 1101 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 4: like fifty now? 1102 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 3: He just celebrated his seventy fifth. He just had birthday 1103 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 3: ad him. Yes, No, he's hanging in there. He's ready 1104 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 3: for his fourth chapter. 1105 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 4: He's ready for his fourth chapter. 1106 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 3: I can really, for whatever reason, I can really easily 1107 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: picture him eating cereal, like the mouthful of cereal standing. 1108 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 3: Maybe he did that in the OC or something, but 1109 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 3: I have a distinct visual image of Adam Brody eating cereal, 1110 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 3: and I. 1111 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: Bet he could do it without being gross. I have 1112 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 4: a colleague's TBS Sunday Morning where I work who says 1113 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 4: she doesn't like in interviews for the activity to be eating. 1114 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 4: She just thinks it's gross to watch people eat on camera. 1115 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 4: As an interviewer, I don't mind it because the person 1116 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 4: is oftentimes is more easily disarmed because it's not you're 1117 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 4: just not you know, it's there, there's an activity going on, right, 1118 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 4: But I feel like Adam Brody could eat cereal in 1119 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 4: a way that's he could do it in a charming way, right. 1120 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has the look the figure of someone who 1121 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 3: has always got a bowl of cereal fun cereal in 1122 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 3: his hands. 1123 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 4: Right, not too crunchy, because I don't think he has 1124 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 4: his original teeth. 1125 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 3: He has a total of four fake teeth. 1126 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah at that point. 1127 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just try and trying his best. 1128 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 4: But you know the Academy will be so happy to 1129 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 4: welcome him. 1130 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 3: Back for it that lifetime achievement, right. 1131 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 4: Well maybe the Irving Thalberg if he's I hope he's 1132 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 4: been actually doing something with all these years in retirement 1133 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 4: for other people and not just you know, playing golf. 1134 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 4: And I I'm going to give the handback to Raven 1135 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 4: Simone for a very very personal reason. So I did 1136 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 4: something called the twenty four hour Musicals, which is right, 1137 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 4: and they may do it, and they may do it 1138 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 4: in la now. In fact, I think they do where 1139 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 4: this was in New York and I've found it a 1140 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 4: few times, but this time was many years ago and 1141 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 4: it was me And basically, you have twenty four hours 1142 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 4: to put together a short musical. And our musical I 1143 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 4: was randomly placed with Raven Simone, the great KT Huffman, 1144 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 4: who won a Tony for the producers. I'm sorry that 1145 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 4: I can't remember who the fourth person was. And our 1146 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 4: director was Kathleen Turner. Oh wow, yeah, she's great. And 1147 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 4: it was really crazy because I just come from a party. 1148 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 4: I swear to you, one of the most insane parties 1149 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 4: I'd ever been to, and I'm not like a party 1150 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 4: go were really but I was invited to a Super 1151 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 4: Bowl viewing party and I ended up sitting next to 1152 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 4: Deborah Winger, and then Glenn Close was across from us. 1153 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 4: And then later that night I suddenly was me eating 1154 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 4: with Kathleen Turner. I thought, this is like my day 1155 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 4: of nineteen eighties iconic actresses who never won an Oscar, 1156 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 4: who all were of multiple nominees, but they and they 1157 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,919 Speaker 4: all are deserving other oscar as at one point, yeah, 1158 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 4: but anyway, but so it was me, Katiehuffman, Raven Simone, 1159 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 4: and another very talented person whose name I can't remember, 1160 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 4: and Kathleen Turner was directing us, and we had twenty 1161 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 4: four hours to picture together this short musical. But for 1162 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 4: the first half of the day, Kathleen Turner would say 1163 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 4: my darling Raven, my darling Raven. And at some point 1164 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 4: in the middle of the day she just one points 1165 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 4: something switching. She went, my sweet Simon, my sweet Simon. 1166 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 4: So she went from my darling Raven to my sweet Simone. 1167 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 3: Do you think she started thinking mentally, Oh, I've said 1168 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 3: my darling Raven too many times. 1169 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think that she suddenly got confused and she went, wait, 1170 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 4: is her first name Raven or her first name is Simone? 1171 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 4: And she just switched in like it's like the train 1172 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 4: jumped the tracks, and then she just stayed on that 1173 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 4: track that whole time, and Raven Simon never corrected her. 1174 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 4: But I also and I'm Raven Simone is so talented, 1175 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 4: but I felt like Raven Simon didn't like me because 1176 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 4: at one point, Raven Simone was bonding with Katy Huffman 1177 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 4: and this other actress who I can't remember who I 1178 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 4: really liked a lot, who looked like Tig Nataro, and 1179 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 4: I wonder if it was Tisha Witt. Oh my god, 1180 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 4: was that Alicia Whitt? Are you looking it up right now, 1181 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,439 Speaker 4: Alicia Witt? It was Alicia Witt. I really liked her, 1182 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 4: but at one point, like I felt left out. The 1183 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 4: other three were first bonding off a line, and I 1184 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 4: suddenly started getting a complex And mind you, was only 1185 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 4: twenty four hours, but it felt like a lifetime, and 1186 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 4: they called twenty four hours, but for the actors it's 1187 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 4: really only twelve hours. It was a gom Yeah, anyway, 1188 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 4: we go to sleep, But twenty four hours from the 1189 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 4: assignment to the actual performance, and so Raven was bonding 1190 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 4: with Alisha Whitt and with Katie Huffman, and I wanted 1191 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 4: to sort of get in on the action. So I 1192 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 4: said to Raven Simone, Wow, you should do more theater. 1193 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 4: And she turned around to me and she said, I'm 1194 00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 4: a TV girl, and I went, no, no, I think 1195 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 4: you should continue doing TV. And but I think you 1196 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: curdl suit the theater too, and I just I felt 1197 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 4: so deflated. And she turned back around and it was 1198 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 4: so big, a little talk, a little back, a little doctor. 1199 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 4: I'll be beeping there anyway. They were having their own thing. 1200 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 4: So this is all to say that I'm gonna give 1201 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 4: the most the nicest gift, the prized handbag, to Raven Simone, 1202 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 4: so that she'll like me, so that she will be 1203 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 4: my darling Raven and sweet Simone. 1204 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 3: One final desperate attempt for her friendship. Yes, yes, it's 1205 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 3: not to it's you know, it's never too late. It's 1206 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 3: never too late to send a stylish handbag to Raven Simone. 1207 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: She's probably sitting at home waiting for the knock at 1208 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 3: the door for that handbag. 1209 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 4: Yes, because all these years I thought I was not 1210 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 4: being passive aggressive. I wasn't going, you should probably stick 1211 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 4: with theater. I wasn't saying that I was going, you 1212 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 4: should do Theatre's a compliment because we've never seen her 1213 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 4: on stage, and I think she was really good. 1214 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never have been. She was probably in 1215 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 3: a tender area of her career. 1216 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 4: I think so. But I listen. I want to be 1217 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 4: really clear, she's listening right now. I want her on 1218 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 4: all platforms. 1219 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: Raven reach out. You gotta get on the podcast the line, 1220 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 3: but it's always open. 1221 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 4: It's always open. I'm three hours ahead, and so don't 1222 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 4: call like after nine pm soon. 1223 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 3: Wow, Well, I can't wait for you to rekindle this 1224 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: rocky relationship with Raven. Click her out to dinner. Yeah, 1225 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 3: they bring out the dessert. She sticks her fork in 1226 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 3: and then realizes it's a handbag. So sweet. 1227 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 4: I hope so, And I hope she doesn't go handbag. 1228 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 4: I've got pockets. 1229 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 3: Beautifully played, I mean so gorgeously played. I couldn't say 1230 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 3: more about it. And Raven again reach out. Okay, this 1231 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 3: is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I 1232 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 3: said no emails people write in to I said no 1233 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 3: gifts at gmail dot com. People have got so many 1234 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 3: questions they need answers. So I do my part. I 1235 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 3: answer the questions. I try, and I succeed every time. 1236 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 3: Would you help me? Of fourth mister Weineger and Guest. 1237 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 3: Christmas is coming and every year my mother and my 1238 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 3: siblings and I get into a tiff about a gift 1239 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 3: for my mom's boyfriend. This is a man my mom 1240 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 3: has been dating for nine years, but they have only 1241 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,479 Speaker 3: lived together the last two. We don't love spending time 1242 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 3: with him. He's prone to complaining and doesn't seem to 1243 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 3: take a large interest in us. My siblings and I either. 1244 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 3: We all tolerate him, though, and feel like this should 1245 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: be enough. My mom thinks we need to buy a 1246 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 3: Christmas gift every year to show how much we like him, 1247 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 3: and we just don't want to do We need to Bridger, 1248 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 3: and if so, what should we get this man? The 1249 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 3: last time we got him a gift, he complained that 1250 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 3: it was the wrong one, even though we bought him 1251 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 3: what he asked for parentheses a level, So I guess 1252 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 3: they bought him a level. Thank you, Jenna. Okay, so, Jenna, 1253 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 3: Mom's boyfriend has been in the picture for a long time. 1254 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 3: The kids all hate him. Doesn't even seem like the 1255 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 3: mom likes him that much. And now they've tried one 1256 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: pathetic attempt to get him a gift, which is a 1257 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 3: level that feels like if you opened a box and 1258 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 3: found a level that would feel like a mistake. Something 1259 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 3: went wrong. So what do Jenna and the kids get? Uh? 1260 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what his name is, Pete Pete, Yeah, 1261 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 3: stepped into their lives, and God, I don't know. 1262 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 4: I suddenly want to see pictures of him. No, I don't. 1263 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 4: I'm just imagining, like, why is some mother keeping him around? 1264 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 4: If he's so surly? 1265 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 3: Right, all of the kids are against im, and I 1266 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 3: assume there are probably ten to twelve children, A lot 1267 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 3: of kids. Yeah, And for if you've got twelve kids 1268 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 3: saying this guy's a jerk, you got to start thinking 1269 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: about things. 1270 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 4: What can they get him? He didn't like the level. 1271 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 4: I love a level. That's one of those those tools. 1272 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 4: As a kid, it's probably that was probably the one 1273 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 4: tool I loved in my father's tool chest because it's fontal. 1274 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 3: It's delightful, it's a toubble say it. 1275 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 4: Is a toy, it's fantastic. 1276 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: And when it's telling you level, it means you've you're. 1277 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 4: A success exactly. 1278 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 3: And he also said neon Green, which is so much fun. 1279 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 4: I love a level. I love a level. 1280 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 3: How had this man not just gone out and bought 1281 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 3: himself a level. A level is between ten and thirty dollars. 1282 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 3: That's certainly something Pete could have just bought. 1283 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 4: I wonder if they you know what, I think that 1284 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 4: probably they should have had the level engraved. I think 1285 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 4: if you're just handed a level without an inscription, it 1286 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 4: doesn't really mean anything. But I think they should have 1287 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 4: said on the level, we love you. 1288 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 3: Right and tears in his eyes. 1289 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you look at it. It is sort 1290 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 4: of like if someone gives me a book, and I 1291 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 4: really do immediately go to the title pages. I want 1292 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 4: to see what they wrote. So somebody gave me. If 1293 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 4: my girlfriend's kids gave me a level without an inscription, 1294 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 4: I think the first thing I'd say is how did 1295 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 4: I end up with a girlfriend? And who were these 1296 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 4: people giving me. 1297 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 3: A very different path you've gone down. 1298 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 4: Yes, there's been a huge misunderstanding here. I'm so sorry 1299 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 4: if I misled anyone here. 1300 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 3: This is why the kids don't while you around, because 1301 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 3: you don't want to be with them, all. 1302 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But if I were in that situation, I 1303 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 4: would the level. I would want something written on it. 1304 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 4: I would want it. 1305 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 3: Engraved, right, And I mean, let's say you forget it 1306 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 3: at the gym, then the gym can call you MO. 1307 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 3: You left your level here? 1308 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 4: Oh wait, why would you bring a level to a. 1309 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 3: Taking your level everywhere? 1310 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 4: Oh I've got a half. Well, so it's probably a 1311 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 4: good idea because if you're doing a bench press and 1312 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 4: sure that always used to scare me. And trust me, 1313 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 4: there were not a lot of plates on the bar, 1314 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 4: but the idea of one sliding off and then the 1315 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 4: whole thing comes. Yeah. The only thing worse was I 1316 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 4: am having a memory. There was a place in New 1317 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 4: York in the twenties, not in the nineteen twenties, but 1318 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 4: in the streets in the twenties that was so cheap 1319 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 4: for personal trainers, something outrageous. It was must have been 1320 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 4: a scam going on. So I went as long as 1321 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 4: I could before the whole thing shut down. And I 1322 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 4: think that I'm pretty sure that the trainer they gave 1323 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 4: me was an x con and this guy I had 1324 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 4: the bench the bar bell, I was doing a bench press, 1325 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 4: and it was as it was going down, my arms 1326 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 4: started trembling, and there was that moment of fear of like, 1327 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 4: oh my god, not. 1328 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 3: My windpipe is about to be crushed exactly, You're. 1329 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 4: Not gonna be decapitated, but like it's gonna I'm gonna die. 1330 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 4: And I remember the guy from above. I can still 1331 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 4: remember his face. He was like a Samuel L. Jackson character. 1332 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 4: But he was like going calling me a pussy, like 1333 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 4: over and over again, helping anything. And I remember I 1334 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 4: kind of wanted to start laughing like he was. I mean, 1335 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 4: it's like this is because it was so outrageous that 1336 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 4: he was like you because you can't lift that, you 1337 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 4: are a pussy. And he just kept calling me a pussy, 1338 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 4: like and my arms, my arm's returning to spaghetti, you 1339 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm talking about. 1340 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 3: They start wobbling or horrifying feeling. 1341 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 4: It's a horrifying feeling. 1342 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Your body's about to give up on yes completely. 1343 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 4: And the last thing I'm gonna hear on this earth 1344 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 4: is this trainer with a single gold tooth calling me 1345 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 4: a pussy. 1346 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 3: Not a bad way to go, I mean, they are 1347 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 3: worse ways to die. 1348 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 4: But anyway, I'd say inscribe the level. 1349 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 3: Perfect, absolutely perfect. Just get him another level. You can 1350 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 3: always use two levels. Ones in the glove box, ones 1351 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 3: at home. 1352 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah yeah yeah. 1353 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 3: Ones in your carry on. Yeah, it's like phone chargers. 1354 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 4: Oh I think it's yes, absolutely, you're at home level. 1355 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have level everywhere, handbag, what have you. 1356 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 3: That's a perfect gift. I mean, I don't see any 1357 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 3: problem with that. And I'm sure Pete will this is 1358 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 3: gonna mend things for the family. He's gonna probably end 1359 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 3: up adopting all twelve kids, and what a lovely ending 1360 01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 3: to this group. 1361 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 4: I think it will be a Yes, I think it 1362 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 4: could be a successful blended family. 1363 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 3: But only if the level is engraved. 1364 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. And look, I yes, I think 1365 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 4: it's just you just get a little plate that you 1366 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 4: screw on the top of the level, which of course 1367 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 4: will script. 1368 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Now it doesn't work. It's simply not the tool it's 1369 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 3: supposed to be. 1370 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 4: We just have to find a place to put the 1371 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 4: name plate, the inscription so that the level actually can 1372 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 4: do its job. Then Pete is gonna go ape shit. 1373 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 3: Okay, well we answered that perfectly. I mean Jenna can't 1374 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 3: complain and if she does. She's gonna have to find 1375 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 3: a new podcast to listen to. I mean, there are 1376 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 3: at least four other ones out there. 1377 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 4: Oh exactly, sure, Raven Simone has one. 1378 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Raven's probably starting a revenge podcast right now. 1379 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 4: That is when are we going to start hearing about 1380 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 4: revenge podcast? 1381 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: Maybe that's our next adventure. I would love to have 1382 01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 3: a revenge podcast. 1383 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 4: There's so many podcasts. There has to be room for 1384 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 4: revenge podcast. Yes, and then I can do a morning 1385 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 4: show segment. They're the hottest new thing and they have 1386 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 4: people up in arms. Revenge podcasts. 1387 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 3: Viewtiful. Oh mo. I mean, I've got this towel that 1388 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 3: is just I mean, it's historic, it's an artifact and 1389 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 3: now it's in my home. 1390 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 4: It really is. And I just all I ask is 1391 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 4: that if anyone associated with the Beverly Wilshare is listening 1392 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 4: to this podcast. 1393 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 3: Well they're probably taking inventory right now and. 1394 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 4: The right right. Yeah. I wonder what the statute of 1395 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 4: limitations on this is. Could you maybe wait to release 1396 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 4: this podcast in three years. 1397 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 3: A decade from now, this is going to hit the 1398 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 3: airwaves and you'll be fine. 1399 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 4: You'll be fine. I'll be in the clear. I'll be 1400 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 4: in the clear. 1401 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for this, thank you for coming. 1402 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 4: This was so much fun. 1403 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 3: And again, Raven reach out. 1404 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Raven reach out. Can I take the bag back 1405 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 4: with me? 1406 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 3: You can absolutely take the bag and take whatever you want. 1407 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 4: Can I take the tissue? 1408 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 3: Do? Listener, the podcast is screeching to a halt. You 1409 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 3: didn't expect this, you aren't planning on it. Now you're 1410 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 3: freaking out. But that's not my problem. I love you, goodbye, 1411 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,919 Speaker 3: I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's 1412 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 3: produced by our dear friend Analise Neilson, and it's beautifully 1413 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 3: mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without 1414 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 3: our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, 1415 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 3: could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must 1416 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 3: follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts. 1417 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you 1418 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 3: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. 1419 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 3: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 1420 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Lie? Did you hear thought? I made myself perfectly clear, 1421 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: But you're I guess to my home. 1422 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty And. 1423 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 1: I said no guess your own presence is presents enough. 1424 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you 1425 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?