1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two forty six, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Dailies. I guys, stay production my 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday, 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: July eighteen two, like you thought it was, which of 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: course means, Miles, what's what it means? You're doing the 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: right thing because July eighth there's World Listening Day, Okay, 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and that's what you're doing right now. It might mean 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: maybe opening yourself up to other perspectives and the pains. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but in my just for my own benefit, 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this about podcasts. That's just short for 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: the world listening to the daily zic exactly and Nelson 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Mandela International Day, National Sour Candy Day, and National Caveard Day. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: A very damn interesting. What a combo we didn't we 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: just have like World Gummy Candy Day recently? Yeah? Yeah 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: it was gummy worms. Yeah the day last week. I 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: would like a sour gummy worms. So this is this 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: is my time to year. Baby, I'm back. Leo season 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: is here, so is Surah Gummy Candy. Anyways, my name 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien ak and I would drink Baha Blast 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: and I would drink five hundred more just to be 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: the man with beauties and blood like adventure golf water. 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: That is a clabo with Paul Garaventa. Oh wait, I 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: should probably Baha blasta Baha lasta Baha Baha Baha Baha 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Baha Blast. Yeah, shout out to Paul Garaventa. And I'm 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, you know, just doing 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: my thing, just hanging out, no a case today, just 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: just starting off the week as myself, Miles Gray, the 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: NoHo God, you know what I mean. Yeah, well, Miles, 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: speaking of starting the week off right, You're thrilled to 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: be joined by a brilliant and talented writer, musician and 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: podcaster whose work has appeared in Rolling Stone, Spin Stereo Gumman, 34 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: who co hosts the podcast How Did We Get Weird? 35 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: With Vanessa Bear and Jonah Bear. It's Jonah Bar. Guys. 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: How's it going good? Good? I mean, just just eight 37 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: tons of caviare for National cavea day for breakfast. It 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: was great. Yeah. If I see another a gumming in 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: a fucking puke man. Too much cave are too much 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: beluga man? One? What's that one? There's like that one 41 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: caviar shop in Beverly Hills that like whenever I walk by, 42 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Petrosi And there's like a Petrosian caviar 43 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: like restaurant, and I'm like, what kind of like that 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: looks like a place you're advertising that you want to 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: be strong arm robbed when you are, like, I can't 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: think of a more like superflu it's like endeavor to 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: be Like I went to the caviar restaurant to like 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: take your watch. People talk about like going places to 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: people watch, Like that is appointment viewing people watching, just 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: going there and seeing anybody who is strange enough to 51 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: just go into a caviar restaurant. Yeah, I didn't know 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: that existed. Yeah, what do you think like that? The 53 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: target demographic for a caviar restaurant is like, yeah, I 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: don't know, Like you're a lawyer who gets like billionaires 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: off for like war crimes and ship like that kind 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: of vibe. I feel like like the bartender at the 57 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: caviar restaurant has to deal cocaine, right, Like, but it's 58 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: like not even illegal at that point. It's just like, yeah, yeah, 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: I have a license to deal cocaine at this level. Yeah, 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: it's all medical grade. This is a Petrosian boutique. It's like, 61 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: oh right, right, right, Okay, I'm sorry, Like I'm looking 62 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: at their they have caviar scrambled eggs. You know how 63 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: much that dishes? Thirty six dollars salad. Caviare salad is 64 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a forty two fucking dollars salad. I like how they 65 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: they're closed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay, so you know we 66 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: don't funk around from those days Sunday op, Well, that's 67 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: when the really good shipments come through. Yeah exactly. I 68 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of people, a lot of 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: ascots there. I've started noticing that, like very rich people. 70 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: At a certain point, you get so rich that you 71 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: then start caused playing as a very rich person again, 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: like you just like lose all self awareness and you 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: are you just look incredibly like like a rich guy 74 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: from the sixties, like Screwball Comedy. Right. Yeah, And the 75 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: reviews are fucking frightening, like every it's all five stars, 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: because I think these are all aspiring, wealthy people like 77 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they're it's really no other place to go 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: for yard. Like really, JB from Coasta mesa truly appointment dining. 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I mnna have to go by there 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: this week and just take a couple of photos and 81 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: do like those TikTok videos like hey man, what do 82 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: you do for a living? Like asking to the Petrosian restaurant. 83 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I want to go and interview people like that needs 84 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: to be then let's let's do that. We you got 85 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: just to interview and like nobody's gonna agree to be interviewed, 86 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, but they're fun there, they're right. Yeah, well 87 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: we'll blur their face for the purposes of the podcast. Jonah, 88 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: where are you coming to us from? I'm coming to 89 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: you from western Massachusetts, the Berkshire's okay, So yeah, are 90 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: you from? Are you from Massachusetts? I'm not from Massachusetts. Uh, 91 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: from Cleveland originally, and then I lived in like the 92 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: New York Brooklyn area for about eleven years, and I've 93 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: been out here for maybe five years or so. Oh nice, 94 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: never met that person from clear Went. I always said, oh, yeah, 95 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: well they're almost all good. You said that like it 96 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: was a challenge and like yeah, let me introduce you 97 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: to a couple of people. You know. I had this 98 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: weird flashback when I got my license in New York. 99 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: I had an Ohio license. I remember going to DMV 100 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: and and I had all my paperwork ready, and the 101 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: person working there was like, Ohio people, they always got 102 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: it down, like they always got the paperwork ready. He 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: was like, I don't have to wait. I don't know 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: if that's an Ohio thing, but that's another thing. But yeah, 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe the filter of Ohio people that moved to New York, 106 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: like a different level of motivation or like I didn't 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: come this way to funk up this d m V appointment. 108 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I left Ohio for this, and that is the same 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: filter I'm dealing with because I'm not meeting too many 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland people in Cleveland. I'm meeting a lot of people 111 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: who left Cleveland. Yes, but yeah, I feel like everyone's consistent, 112 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Like I feel like all the people we talked to 113 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: that are from Cleveland, like, oh yeah, it's people are 114 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: chill people. Yeah. Usually people will be like, oh yeah, 115 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: let me introduce you to my high school bully. But yeah, 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems it seems like a solid 117 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: place it's a good spot. It's a good spot. Yeah. Yeah, 118 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: see you look at this, it's a good spot. That 119 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: says that about their hometown. How are the Berkshires beautiful? 120 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: It's really nice here in the summer. There's a lot 121 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: of nature, a lot of trees, a lot of you know, 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: aren't called. I mean, I really like not living in 123 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: a city, and I really like being out here, and 124 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's really beautiful. Nice, sounds amazing. Have you 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: have either you been out this way before. I've been 126 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: to Massachusetts. When I was younger. I played a lot 127 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: of hockey, but it was mostly like playing in and 128 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: around like the Boston area, So I'm less less versed 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: in the outer areas of Massachusetts outside of Boston. Yeah, 130 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I went to I went to high school for two 131 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: years in Boston. The the aforementions before we started recording, 132 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: we were talking about why, how it's a bad idea 133 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: to ever give high school students the freedom of living 134 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: in a dorm. That's why I was doing that in Massachusetts. 135 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't get out to the Burke 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: here is that much other than like once or twice. 137 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: But it did seem very pretty out there. It is, 138 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: And I did kind of that dorm thing too. When 139 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, I did a five week guitar program 140 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: at Berkeley College Music in Boston, so I had that 141 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: high school kid dorm experience in Boston as well. Like 142 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: guitar guitar, it was. It was a lot of guitar. 143 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: It was a lot of kids in practice rooms trying 144 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: to play jazz or play really fast like shredding guitar, 145 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: right right right. That was more the vibe when you 146 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: watch kids go from like I like jazz guitar to 147 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: being like I funk with dream theater. Actually that's where 148 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm headed now. A lot of people had the dream 149 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: theater signature. I've been as guitar for sure, right right exactly. 150 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. There's always like that fork 151 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: and I grew up a big music nerd kid as well, 152 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Like I always watch like the guitar kids be like 153 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: getting into Flamenco like shredder, ripping metal, or being like 154 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm like five D chess brain prog rock shit. I 155 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: don't know what any of that means, but great, alright, 156 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better 157 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: in a moment. First, We're gonna tell our listeners a 158 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about today. We're talking 159 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: about the cover upside of the January sixth ship. Uh. 160 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all the stories about how like 161 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: various generational cohorts hate or love remote work, and I'm like, 162 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: who is who is behind those stories? They're wildly inconsistent 163 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: story Yeah, constantly seeing like this feels like an op. 164 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the the confusion around like what 165 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: when a movie is coming out, if it's coming out 166 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: in theaters, if it's staying in theaters, if it's gonna 167 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: be on v O D, all of that plenty more. 168 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: But first, Jonah, we like to ask our guest, what 169 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Oh my gosh, so uh. 170 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I do this podcast with my sister 171 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: Vanessa called How Did We Get Weird? And I'm always 172 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: it's a nostalgia based pod, gusts. I'm always looking up 173 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: stuff from our childhood. And I found this column in 174 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: our childhood newspaper, The Plane Dealer, called Monday Moaning, And 175 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: we've turned into segment on the show where it was 176 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: people just writing into our local newspaper complaining about the 177 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: most mundane stuff, and somehow I was like, I wonder if, yes, 178 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: there was a Thankful Thursday column as well that not 179 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: as successful, But I was like, I wonder if these 180 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: are archived anywhere. It turns out they are. They stopped 181 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: doing it about ten years ago, but there's a bunch 182 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: of them posted, and so we've been kind of like 183 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: doing a new segment where we read them with guests 184 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: and get their feedback on them. But I've just been 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: going through all of these people complaining about you know, 186 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: like the school bus waiting too long in front of 187 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: their neighbors house, or like the mailman dropping a letter. 188 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: A lot of complaints about younger people on their cell phones, 189 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: just like what context like there, like I don't like 190 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that they're on them, were like they're on them in 191 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: the restaurant or on the just they don't like it 192 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: seems like a people are just yeah, I think the 193 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: next generation is just too two on their phone, which 194 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: and this is ten years ago, so like they must 195 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: be going, yeah, they must not be yet. But then 196 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: when we recently found that was really funny was was that, oh, 197 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: someone got told to be quiet at the movie before 198 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: the previews had started, Wow, I feel like that that 199 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: is pre preemptive shushing is like all right, you're you're 200 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: like working too hard, You're doing too much work in 201 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: your brain, and the anxiety that you've like generated, you've 202 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: like sort of created a whole story where this person 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: is going to continue talking through the previews. Just what 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: w don't you just wait and see? Yeah, so that happened, 205 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and then the person getting told to be quiet wrote 206 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: this letter to the newspaper sting, this happened to me, 207 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: and they were complaining about getting told. So it's like 208 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: to me, that's my search history is a lot of 209 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: reading these these letters basically. Yeah, Like whenever I'm like 210 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: in a like a smaller city, like I always like 211 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: to look at like the most local paper because it 212 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: you really as like how quaint sometimes like the problems are. 213 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: And like I remember one time, like in British Columbia, 214 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: like I was in this like weird, like this smaller 215 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: coastal town and I found their local paper and like 216 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: one of the main columns on the side was this 217 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: like argument between a city council person and like getting 218 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: mad about dog p versus dog pooh on things, and 219 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: it was like taking up so much space, but like 220 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: the energy given to them like this is I'm glad 221 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: that they're not talking about you know, police murders or 222 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: like ship like that, and it's just about dog p 223 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: or pooh. Is that the one where they were talking 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: about like carrying a squirt bottle with them like that 225 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: that being like you gotta carry a squirt bottle and 226 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: like no, but I like this, what do you mean 227 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: like as a tactic to scare off a dog or something. No, no, no, 228 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: it's to you carry a squirt bottle. It maybe I 229 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: heard about it on another podcast where somebody was like 230 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: very proud that they carried a squirt bottle with them 231 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: so that when they're dog peed somewhere they would just 232 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: like with like or from their squirt bottle. Two. But 233 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: then like they were using that to like hang that 234 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: over everyone else's head and then like you know, like 235 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: be like you really should carry a square bottle and 236 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: they became like the square bottle police. Oh you okay, 237 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: which just feels like the way that good ideas happen 238 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: and then get taken in the worst possible direction. What 239 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: is something, Jonah that you think is underrated? Here's what 240 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I think is underrated. I like, I think cheap stuff 241 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: that you're going to break or lose anyways. And I'm 242 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: talking specifically, like I just got some twenty dollar sunglasses. 243 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna forget them somewhere or break them, 244 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be okay with it. I like cheap umbrellas, 245 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's I like, I like having that stuff. 246 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I like, I like just this stuff. I know I'm 247 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna lose that. It feels less the stakes are lower, 248 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: um when it's just haven't spend much money on it. 249 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, totally love that. I was 250 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: definitely a sunglass person like that, because I was like, 251 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I bought sunglasses, like when 252 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: I was in high school about like and I don't know, 253 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: some nose college. I bought Christian to your sunglasses because 254 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: I was trying like j Low or some wrapper or 255 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: some ship. And I lost those ships like in one month, 256 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: and I was so distraught over it. I was like, 257 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I only deserve ship I get for free at a 258 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: medical fair. And uh now I kind of I just 259 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: recently bought up like an eighty dollar pair of sunglasses 260 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: and I'm treating them ship's like the fucking Holy Grail 261 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: right now, But no, I do. It is liberating to 262 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: have those like throwaway sunglasses for sure. Now are you 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: a pretty like it? Just looking at your background, it 264 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they're ships scattered everywhere like that. So 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: my issue is that, like I have kids and we 266 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: our house has like an inch of cheap stuff You're 267 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: going to break or lose anyways on the floor at 268 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: all times unless I'm like constantly cleaning up. It's like 269 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: a you know, a snow, like snow in Buffalo during 270 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: the winter. It's just like it's gonna be everywhere, Like 271 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: you just have to make make your peace with it, 272 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: Like how do you how do you deal with the 273 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: accumulation of it when when you you lose it? But 274 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: it's somewhere, it's just like around. That's tough. That's tough. 275 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I usually feel like the more I look, the heart 276 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: it will be defined. So I try to just kind 277 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: of take a break, come back to it later, and 278 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: usually it will show up as since I stopped looking. Yeah, yeah, 279 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: that's a good point exactly. And what you pray to 280 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Saint Anthony, well I'm doing that isn't what isn't what 281 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the Catholics do is not for when you lose some 282 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: it's Saint Anthony. Yeah probably, I don't know. Man. I 283 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: stopped paying attention to that pretty pretty soon after the 284 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,479 Speaker 1: first confession. I was like, oh man, this is stressful. 285 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is because I remember like at my 286 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: friend's house with like the neighbors growing up that were Catholic. 287 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: It was like the first thing the moms like, I 288 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: don't pray to Saint Anthony. Yeah, And it's like for 289 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: my deodorant. It's just like just like I'm not gonna 290 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: help you braying. I got a lot. I got nine 291 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: kids in this house, Like Anthony, what's like, Okay, Joe, 292 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious, what's another thing you said sunglasses and umbrellas. 293 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: What's another like liberating cheap thing that maybe people don't 294 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: think about that, Like it's like you don't need to 295 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on that because you might 296 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: lose it, and maybe it's more freeing to buy the 297 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: cheap one. That's a really good question. Those are the 298 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: first two that come to mind. Yeah, no, I agree. 299 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Coffee mugs. I feel like you can coffee get the 300 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: occasional free coffee mug or hats like T shirts, you know, yeah, 301 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: shirt man. I'm I can't believe how many free T 302 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: shirts I hold onto. It's weird that I have a 303 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: like an inability to throw away a free T shirt, 304 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: like and I have piles of most useless T shirts 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: that I think, like I give to my mom and 306 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: she uses them as like dish towels. Yeah, that's like 307 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: about Yeah, I can't for some reason, I can't part 308 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: with a free shirt. What's something you think is overrated? 309 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: This might be a little controversial, but I think, uh, 310 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: cold brew coffee. I feel like, you know, it takes 311 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: twelve twenty four hours. I'm just not into cold coffee. 312 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm I like, I like coffee a lot. I like 313 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: espressive drinks. I feel like codebrew is like the payoff. 314 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: It just isn't there for the time it takes. Mm hmm. Yeah. 315 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I like cold brew for the power of it. And 316 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I had a like one of those twenty four hour 317 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: like overnight things you had, and it kept sucking with 318 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: me because like, if I missed my twenty four hour window, 319 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: like well ship, then it's gonna be ready in the 320 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: middle of the day, and I that's your right before 321 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a record and it completely like I lost all momentum 322 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: with making it, and now I just drink the concentrate 323 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: on cut. Then that's just easier for me. When I 324 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: met Miles many years ago, he was bragging about how 325 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: he is caffeine and sensitive, caffeine doesn't affect him, and 326 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: then I watched him drink cold brew and go clinically mad, 327 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: like just completely, I'm like, I don't experience any change. Man, 328 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: You're speaking triple time. What the fund is happening? Do 329 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: you like? I feel like that is another like I 330 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: feel like I am learning about you, because that is 331 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: another like opinion of somebody who's like, I don't need 332 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: the like crack version of caffeine that is delivered by 333 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: cold brew. Is that you you like more of a steady, 334 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: slow drip, Yeah, And I just like that. I just 335 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: like the hotter drinks are like the more traditional I guess. 336 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I've also thought at times that I'm 337 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: caffeine insensitive and I've never heard anyone else say that. 338 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: And is that is that as? Is that possible? Is 339 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: that like the real thing? It is? Anecdotally, I feel 340 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: like on Twitter a lot I see a lot of 341 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: takes of Like, yeah, I used to say that all 342 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: the time, and then I was diagnosed with a d 343 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: h D and maybe a reason why I wasn't vibing 344 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: with caffeine. But my mom is the same way, Like 345 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: so she would drink coffee like before bad just because 346 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: she likes hot drinks and likes the flavor. So I 347 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, my mom's pretty I don't know 348 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: if she has a d h D, but I think 349 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: it's probably some some kind of real thing with the 350 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: caffeine receptors. The I d h D thing is definitely real. 351 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: Like I like, that's how I was with nicotine, where 352 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I was like I just need a little nicotine to 353 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: go to sleep, and my wife was like, that's a stimulant. 354 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: What the funk are you talking about. That's not it's 355 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: not how that works. Man. I'm like, I don't know, 356 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: septime gum, Yeah, but yeah, I don't. I don't know. 357 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Like the cold brew does seem like the next level 358 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: of of caffeine that I I like a lot of caffeine, 359 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: and I still try not to work with it too 360 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: much because it's it's too much with Jeffiel yet, Yeah, 361 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. 362 00:19:47,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some January six ship and we're back 363 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: and yeah. So there there's a story on the Intercept 364 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: towards the end of last week that the Secret Service 365 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: had deleted some text messages during the fifth and six, 366 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: which was a crucial time, crucial time, and they're like 367 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: beyond just them being like, no, you can't go to 368 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: the riot, President Trump, and we'll drive you back to 369 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: the White House, like their involvement there, there's some speculation 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: about their their involvement in in the like beat by 371 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: beat of this whole thing, that might explain why they 372 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: would have deleted the text message. So I I remember 373 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: hearing this that Mike Pence wouldn't get in the car 374 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: with the Secret Service, like they were like, we gotta 375 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: get you out of here, we gotta get you to safety, 376 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I don't because if I 377 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: get in there with you, you guys are gonna like 378 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: whisked me off somewhere and I won't be able to 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: uh you know complete I said. I thought he I 380 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: thought he was just doing it like I think you 381 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: guys are gonna kill me, Like my my brain is 382 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: built out of pieces from action movies that I watched 383 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, so like that that was 384 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: the version that I got, is that he gets in 385 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: there and then they use a garret him or some ship, 386 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, just a nice little tweet silencer and then um, 387 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: but that doesn't really make sense. That's not how like 388 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: a coup in the United States would go down unless 389 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: Steven Seagal was involved, and so that at it seems 390 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: like maybe a more reasonable narrative is that they let 391 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: the mob create an unsafe environment at the Capitol. They 392 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: come in there like we gotta get you out of here, 393 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: and then that buys them time to then you know, 394 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: do whatever the next step of the non certification cooing, 395 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: which makes like that that's the first version of this 396 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, if you were doing a planned out, 397 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: carefully planned and not like a haphazard bullshit thing like 398 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: that actually starts to make sense to me, right, And 399 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean there's all that coinsides with like Chuck Grassley 400 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: on the January five thing like oh yeah, Mike President 401 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: might vice president and Mike president vice pemps vice PEPSI 402 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: is not like suggested that he would skip the certification 403 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: on January five, and people are like, wait, why did 404 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: he say that on the fifth being like yeah, he 405 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: might not be there, and it's like and I might 406 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: have to do it, like wait, hold on what and 407 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: then he like backtracked. So there's a lot of it 408 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: around it where constantly we're just being like so many 409 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: people knew about what the funk was gonna go down 410 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: and open their mouths at the dumbest times that you're 411 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: just kind of be like, Okay, there's so many more 412 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: questions than answers, but clearly you can see that people 413 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: there was a group of people who knew what was 414 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 1: going to happen and others that had less of an 415 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: idea for sure. Yeah, it's just I don't know. There's 416 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: also like DHS officials tweeting like jan six is gonna 417 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: be crazy l O L like right before and like 418 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: DHS is like the that's who over overseas, I think 419 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: the the Secret Service, it's like the people within the 420 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: department that would have been involved in like all of 421 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: this ship going down. So I don't know, like I 422 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: get I get the like sort of more stylist position 423 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: on January six, being like it doesn't matter, they were 424 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: never like we were never in danger of this group 425 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: of dipshits overthrowing the US government. They're idiots. It's nothing 426 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: compared to what we've done in other countries elections, which 427 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: is all like seems true. I'm just not sure how 428 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: it makes sense to like be dismissive of the investigation 429 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: before we know all the facts. And it does seem 430 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: like the more we learn, the more it's like, oh, okay, 431 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I can at least see what they were trying to 432 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: do here, and the definitely feels like the sort of 433 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: thing that you wouldn't want somebody to do if they're 434 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: going to be also the next president of the United States. Yeah, 435 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just, uh, it's just I 436 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: think the part that makes it tough is like, despite 437 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: everything that was even known, it's like we don't even 438 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: have like a justice system that like moves to correct it. 439 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are like, yeah, we know, 440 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: now do the part that shows there are consequences, like 441 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: for so many people, they don't need to be convinced 442 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: much more. And I think that's part of for me 443 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: the frustration, like seeing all this and I'm like, I'm 444 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: really curiously what actual consequences are born out of all this, 445 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: because it's not going to be enough to be like, oh, 446 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: they did that, that's fucking That's the most frightening part 447 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: of this is that it ends with oh and that's it. 448 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: And you know, as we see like Trump, you know, 449 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: getting ready to announce like being a candidate, I'm also curious, 450 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: like is the media really just going to talk about 451 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: this guy like he didn't do all this ship and 452 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: just like the coverage about his candidacy is just gonna 453 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: be like and he's going for it again rather than 454 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: this fucking guy tried to steal the election last time? 455 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: Why are we talking about him? But you know, I 456 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: think to be fair and balanced or CNN doesnt want 457 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: to be too extreme, they'll just be like, yeah, he's 458 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: going for another bite of the apple and President Trump 459 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: going for another by the app Like yeah, there's so much. 460 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like how the coverage are like 461 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: Row being overturned is similarly just like so middle of 462 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: the road and like gamified and like, well, this is 463 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: bad optics for the Republicans and as like this is 464 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: bad for humans right now, like you're that you're talking 465 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: about a ten year old human being that you're talking about, 466 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: and you're you're making it into like a story about 467 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: bad optics. Man, Yeah, like an episode of Scandal or 468 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: something like the Livi of Hope couldn't even save them. 469 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think that's a necessary analysis and 470 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: all of this, but sure, but yeah, I think just 471 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: looking at all just the back and forth with the 472 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: Secret Service, you know, and even the fact that Joe 473 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: Biden when he came in office, they were like we 474 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: need to like fucking completely over like flip these like 475 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: sub these guys the funk out. Like they already had 476 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: question concerns about the people who were working with Trump, 477 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: working with Biden. So there's a lot of stink uh 478 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: coming out of there. And yeah, just like the process 479 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: of like the Inspector General being like, hey, we need 480 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: those texts and then they're like, oh yeah one second, 481 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: oh we deleted them just now after you asked for them. 482 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: That's a it's a bad look, as they'd say, great 483 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: for their optics. The entire like Watergate scandal was about 484 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: the cover up, Like that's the whole thing, was the 485 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: cover up. That was what everybody was so outreach about, 486 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: Like this is John I don't know if you if 487 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: you're with me on this one. But I've always said 488 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: nix and not so bad. I'm a big nixing guy. No, 489 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: But like when you look at like the how far 490 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: we've come where, like we we have nothing but evidence 491 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: of like a cover up happening here, and like that's 492 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: not even like the story people are like even aware 493 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: of or focused on is like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 494 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I haven't paid that much attention to it. I've seen 495 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: stuff here there, but I'm curious, like, yeah, what else. 496 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: It just seems like I don't know what would be 497 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: a big deal at this point right right, like because 498 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: at last headline I saw it was about him trying 499 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: to grab the steering wheel of this car, and they're like, oh, 500 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: this is like a big bombshell, and then it's like 501 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: everyone's like okay, and now it's they're racing the tech. 502 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: It's like I just feel like they're going to keep 503 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: digging stuff up. Where does it go exactly? Yeah, I 504 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if any of this will 505 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: really ultimately have any impact. I have no idea it 506 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: and it bothers me because I saw like an OpEd 507 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: last week that was like saying like if the d 508 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: o J doesn't do anything, it's gonna it's gonna harm 509 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: their legitimacy. And I'm like, are are you hearing ship 510 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: that they're not gonna do anything, And that's why you're 511 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: writing this OpEd to try and like signal the people 512 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: that like they might fucking not, you know, really bring 513 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: the full weight of the legal system down on these people. 514 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: So I guess that's really that's really all the this 515 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: is building up to. It's like, yeah, I don't I 516 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: don't need to. Like I saw the Titanic sink, like 517 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm glad to know like what happened inside 518 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: the Titanic as it was sinking, but it was clear 519 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: what happened from the outside enough, And I'm like, what's 520 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: going on with that now? Yeah, but yeah we wait 521 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: with bated press. Yeah, if you it does feel like 522 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: if they don't do anything, if he just like wins 523 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: again somehow, like we like that we have enough evidence 524 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: to be like he's never leaving office again, Like he's 525 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: not just gonna do the dumb bad version of the 526 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: coup this time, Like we we know for a fact 527 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: now like he is going to will never have another 528 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: fair election as long as he's alive. Like so, I 529 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe that's something to bring up as 530 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: you're talking through this, because people like the Democrats were 531 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: so happy last week that like Biden was still up 532 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: three points on Trump. It's like that's that's the battle. 533 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Who could care less? Alright, let's talk about another failing 534 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: of the mainstream media. And this is, uh the the 535 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: way that they're covering like various generations loving or hating 536 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: remote work during a pandemic. I mean this has been 537 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: I feel like one of the main like not main topics, 538 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: but one of the bigger sort of societal shifts that 539 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: came out of the pandemic. That's like constantly debated off 540 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: like his remote work good? Is it bad? Is it 541 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: killing us? Is it? Like? Do we not know what 542 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: our own faces look like? Because of zoom? And like 543 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: constantly here about these different things like zoom fatigue. We've 544 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: covered all those things. What'd you say? So I'm confused 545 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: about that last one, not knowing what our face looks like? 546 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: People just like talking about how generally like people are 547 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: like losing like certain mirror neurons aren't firing when you 548 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: look at like a fucking zoom called too long. There's 549 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: like a whole there's like some other urological studies about it. 550 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: And I say that like flippantly, but it was sort 551 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: of like your brain is kind of like not using 552 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: certain things that could be when you're just looking like 553 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: they're saying, like it affects like your ability to know 554 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: where you are in space and time, like especially when 555 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: talking to people in other time zones. Your mind is 556 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: trying to place your existence in physical space, like in 557 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: relation to a video, and like they're saying, like it's 558 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: like running your cell phone on like GPS location mode, 559 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: but there's no cell service, so just draining your battery 560 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where you are. Oh so it's 561 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: like a subtle thing. But again we hear constantly like 562 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: is it the pros cons who they love it? Do 563 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: they hate it? And you know, in the beginning, it 564 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: was clear that a lot of people that had the 565 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: ability or privilege to work remotely enjoyed doing. In fact, 566 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: like it was like a big thing that people can 567 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: like pointed to when people left their jobs, was people 568 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: wanted to continue to work remotely or have the flexibility 569 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: because you know, the pandemic has changed all these things. 570 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: But then as like the pandemic, you know, raided don 571 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: it was also clear that like the boss class of 572 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: people were starting to like unite in their sort of 573 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: like message of like, hey, let's let's get back to 574 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: the office, folks, how about that And wouldn't that be fun? 575 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: Like back to normal? I know, the case numbers aren't 576 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: going down, but like what about if we went back 577 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: to the office and it's I think, you know, it's 578 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: clear that the commercial real estate industry clearly being hit 579 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: by the lack of people in traditional office settings, and they, 580 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: along with like other business interest groups were like really 581 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: pushing hard like we saw them, like whether it's from 582 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the government or the media of like this whole idea 583 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: like we're back, baby, Like what but today you can 584 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: like read pieces about remote work, Like in Slate there 585 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: was one about like, you know, as as a black employee, 586 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: remote work has done wonders from my mental health because 587 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't have I no longer have to deal with 588 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: like dumb, fucking racist microaggressions or just weird bullshit that's 589 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: born out of like having to be a black person 590 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: in a workplace, and that comes along with you know, 591 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: people's unneeded analysis or suspicions, etcetera. Well, you can also 592 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: find like articles that you're saying everyone hates it. And 593 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: I want to point a Business Insider for a second. 594 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: In April, they had a piece that was called return 595 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: to Office is driving gen Z to Quit m and 596 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: it talked about how much gen Z workers again hated 597 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: this push to return to the office. It was they 598 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: weren't agreeing with it. They didn't like having their boss 599 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: be like, I don't give a funk. If you're gonna 600 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: get sick, man, you have to come back so I 601 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: can just like watch you, but then cold and ask 602 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: you to get in here to look at something on 603 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: my computer really quick that I think is cool that 604 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: like check out this meme? Is that am and I 605 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: mean that I remember having a boss it was like, hey, 606 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: check out this YouTube video. I'm like, you're fucking way 607 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: too old for to be calling you in your office 608 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: to check out a dumb YouTube video. Anyway, all I 609 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: have to say is then at the end of last week, 610 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Business Inside to put out a new piece called gen 611 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Z actually hates working from home? What like this is 612 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: really like? It turns out they hit it. I like, 613 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: how they said, actually, you know, like as if they 614 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: know what they said in April, like actually, actually, gen 615 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Z actually like working from home. And I'm like, what 616 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: the fund is the thrust of this piece that they 617 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: are pointing to surveys that showed that like gen Z 618 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: or like the least interested age cohort in remote work 619 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: when you compare workers in their thirties and older. But 620 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: like many commenters like on the article and just like 621 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter and stuff, We're like, this ship is such 622 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: weird bullshit. They're like, yeah, I want to like extend 623 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: my work day by hours to go to a place 624 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: that's like terribly cramped in the middle of a pandemic. No, 625 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: that's what I want. In the first sentence here just 626 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: said I want I want to get you guys paying 627 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: on what they were going for here for the youngest 628 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: employees working from home? Isn't everything? Are they doing like 629 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: the gen Z thing, Like, oh my god, that is everything? 630 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: Like are they like trying to like a play on 631 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: that that went right over my head? That that really 632 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: is bad bad? Yeah? What they're they're all pointing like 633 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: articles like this, And there's another one that was in 634 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: Fortune magazine, which we all know is the official outlet 635 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: of the Proletarian revolution Um that they point to a 636 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: survey of high school students to reinforce this argument. This 637 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: they're all drawing from this, this like one servant and 638 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote it quote less than a quarter of 639 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: gen z or Is feel remote work is quote very 640 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: or extremely important to them, per the National Society of 641 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: High School Scholars Career Interest Survey, the for which pulled 642 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: nearly eleven thousand five high school and college aged individuals, 643 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: but mostly high school says that remote schooling during the 644 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: pandemic may have turned swaths of gen Z off from 645 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: remote working. So I'm like, that's not a good sample 646 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: size of the gen Z workforce. Are kids who spent 647 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: life never peek years of their like high school life 648 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: indoors me Like, hey, you want a situation that mirrors 649 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: that as a work thing, And they're like no, right, yeah, 650 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: from like I would get it, Like if you were 651 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: younger and you had you want to go to college 652 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: in person, right, and you had to do most of 653 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: your colleagues experience online, maybe you would be like, when 654 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: I get in the workforce, I want to be able 655 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: to interact with people and make friends I get that's 656 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: like the socialization aspect, but yeah, I mean it also 657 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: just seems funny when these places make like a sweeping 658 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: generalizations about like a whole generation of people want this 659 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: or that, when it's like there's so much nuance and 660 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: so much going on there, right, just like the misrepresentation 661 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: between like the opening like talking about the work like 662 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: gen Z workforce having this opinion and then going right 663 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: to this is what high school and college students think 664 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: they will want once they start working. Is so well 665 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: clearly they're sure. They came up with the headline first, 666 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: and we're like, how can we find data to support this? 667 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter like what it is from, let's just 668 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: find it. Yeah, they've they've had this headline ever since 669 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: they wrote the article saying that gen Z does like 670 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: working prefer working from home, and the Better Business Bureau 671 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: of every city reached out to them and we're like, 672 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: what the fund do we pay you for? What the 673 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: fund do we pay you for? Fortune Magazine like, get 674 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: back out there and find me one that gen Z 675 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: actually doesn't you need to put actually in the title? 676 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: How is that? Mr? Fortune? And just interesting when you 677 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: talk about like the things that they do like In 678 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: this national survey of high school scholars, it says remote 679 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: work quote. Remote work doesn't even crack the top three 680 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: things gen Z is looking for in a job, according 681 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: to the High school students survey, and said they prioritize 682 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: fair treatment of all employees, quality of life and flexibility, 683 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: and corporate social responsibility. I'm like, look, kids, you clearly 684 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: haven't had your soul fucking ground to dust and blown 685 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: away by some bosses fart into nothingness, because you will 686 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: realize what you're talking about quality of life and flexibility. 687 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: You may realize like, oh yeah, that flexibility means not 688 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: having to waste gas and ship to go to my 689 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: ice box of an office. And number two is essentially 690 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: remote work. It's like it's basically contradicting the entire and 691 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: I think it's fucked up, because yes, I get for 692 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: like what a person, a young person who is about 693 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: to enter you know, their working career whatever, or thinks 694 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: of what their life would be like, Yeah, you'd want 695 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: to think like, my job will be cool. I like 696 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: my co workers, we kick it after work, we go 697 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: off for drinks and ship like that. But that's obviously 698 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: they're they're more speaking from an experience that there yet 699 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: to have, and but they're using this for like this 700 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: very stupid like pro business propaganda ship and I'm like 701 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: just confusing to read it's I mean, it's so transparent 702 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: that like they just couldn't get they couldn't get the results, 703 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't get the headline that they were looking for, 704 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: and so they had to just lie. I guess it 705 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: is kind of the only real honest way to put it. 706 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: And I get there are like again every every week, 707 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: all we contain multitudes. You can't treat anything like a monolith. 708 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: So I'm sure there are plenty of kids who are like, yeah, 709 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: funk that, like the last I've been doing remote ship 710 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: for a lot for a few years now, and that's 711 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do. I totally get that. 712 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: But I think like you're saying, also saying Jonah like 713 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: to have this hasty, broad blanket generalization and be like, yeah, 714 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: all of them fucking hate it, and they also don't 715 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: and also never had a job yet. I do wish 716 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: this article had worked in more of these terminologies like 717 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: this is everything, or like turns out it isn't fire 718 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: to be working remotely right right, right, those previous surveys 719 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: that said gen Z actually wanted remote work, that's all cap. 720 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: They said, what market cap? You know, I work in 721 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: UM Like, I'm finishing a graduate degree in clinical mental 722 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: health counseling and so I work you know, in mental health. 723 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: And to me, it's like the remote work is like 724 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 1: change everything and it's made it amazing, you know, having 725 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: access to therapists, people getting help with mental health, all 726 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: these companies starting up. So to me, there's just so 727 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, doing a podcast like this from our houses. 728 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: To me, there's so many benefits. I find it hard 729 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: to think that things will ever really go back to 730 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: the way they were and people going commuting into these 731 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: huge corporate offices and spending all day there when they 732 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: know they don't have to anymore. Right, Yeah, I think 733 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: it's just like transitioning the like boss, you know, CEO 734 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: class of people to be like, you don't need your 735 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: big concrete dick symbols of buildings in a downtown to 736 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: like demonstrate the might of your company. In fact, you'll 737 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: probably save a lot of money by getting out of 738 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: your like thirty million dollar fucking forty year leaks or 739 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: whatever the funk you're locked into and then you can 740 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: just build more anatomically accurate giant concrete dick symbols that 741 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: represent your company because you don't have to like have 742 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: people working inside them. So yeah, they don't giant concrete 743 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: dicks that are like big feet tall and concrete dick 744 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: obelisks coming to a downtown near you. Yeah, enough of 745 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: all the you know, bullshit about making them look like buildings. 746 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Do do the damn thing? I mean, so do you 747 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: think overall, like I'm, i'm and i'm. This is just 748 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: my conclusion is that the reason this group of respondence 749 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: is responding is responding this way is because they're being 750 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: asked like a question that's too abstract, like based on 751 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: what they've experienced, right, Like, I'm not trying to because 752 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be old elder geriatric millennial here 753 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, it's all bullshit. None of these kids 754 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: want that because I'm like, I get the yearning for 755 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: socializing and like, you know, the idea that being in 756 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: an office can like foster connections that give you a 757 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: network to be able to like, you know, progress your career, 758 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: advance it. But I don't know like that. My take 759 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: is they're asking kids whose souls have not been crushed yet, 760 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: and of course they're going to respond this way. I 761 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: think there's been a culture of like, yeah, I think 762 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: they miss the socialization. Also think there's been a culture 763 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: of them trying to push like offices that are fun. 764 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: They have like a bean bag room or like ping 765 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: poonte or something. And I think that, yeah, that might 766 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: seem fun if you are looking maybe that's like an 767 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: extension of college or something. But I do think you're right. 768 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: I do think that, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I 769 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know. It's I've never met anyone that said I 770 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: can't wait to go back to my office. I don't know. 771 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure that those Yeah, I'm sure those 772 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: people might exist in some context, but I mean, I 773 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: don't know. It's I also feel this is based on 774 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: what like a LinkedIn survey, Like it's like, I don't know, 775 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, we don't know what the sample sizes. We 776 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: don't know I mean children actually, Okay, all right, I 777 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: guess we do know eleven thousand college aged or high 778 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: school students and college age kids. But yeah, because like 779 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: even with the perks, right, I remember early in my career, 780 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: like I remember seeing my friends who like went to 781 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: like fancy like their offices were like fucking nice, and 782 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that ship looks dope because like, meanwhile, 783 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: like the place I go to for lunch is a 784 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: liquor store up the street versus like a building that 785 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: like had a cafeteria and shipped and you're like, oh, 786 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: look at this capitalist, like fucking hell escape, that's so shiny. 787 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: But even when I worked in offices like that had 788 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: amazing perks, like you know, wild ass thirsty Thursdays and 789 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: like Barista cart like cooking up whatever fucking drinks you wanted, 790 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: that ship wore off like within the third month of 791 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: working there. I fucking hate my life and I just 792 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: want to be home all day. Please to get me 793 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah. I think it's like living I've 794 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: never lived in with places, but like an apartment complex 795 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: with all these amenities, and then it probably seems nice 796 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: when you're and then you realize you probably never use 797 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: almost all of them, right, right, Yeah, And you can 798 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: work from home and have a social life with people 799 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: you don't work with or the ones you want to 800 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: hang out with from work. You can go hang out 801 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: with them, but you have control over your life as 802 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: opposed to being forced to come into an office and 803 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: overseen by Like that does feel like a big part 804 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: of it is like having someone there who is overseeing you, 805 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: and like there is what like, no matter what their 806 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: management style is, there is like some sense of like 807 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: you were being judged and like this is going on 808 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: your permanent record no matter what, and like that high 809 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: school students and college aged students don't really have the 810 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of profound, long term sense of like mental harm 811 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: that that sort of environment does yet. So yeah, if 812 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: you look at like culturally, like a show like The Office, right, 813 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: like the American version, um, like it's almost like this 814 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: is just where you go. These are the people you're 815 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 1: stuck with and you can make these connections or something, 816 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, you don't have to do that anymore. 817 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: Like you can hang out with whoever you want, you 818 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: don't have to hang in miserable. Um so yeah, I 819 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: think there's sort of maybe this nostalgic like I don't know, 820 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: like maybe it's idealized a little bit in some ways, 821 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: because you know, I think that show is still really 822 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: popul with a lot of people. But um yeah, I 823 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: think this new paradigm is is totally. These CEOs are 824 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: not happy about it for sure. Yeah, where's that like 825 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: spinoff show where it's Stanley and Oscar from the office 826 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: texting their group chats and like this motherfucker Michael really 827 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: just says some about gay people right now and everybody 828 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: is laughing in here and I have to pretend to 829 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: go along with this ship He tried to kiss me, 830 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: fam Yeah it does. I didn't give people that idea 831 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: like it can be like a whimsical place. I think 832 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: we'd be remiss because we do have somebody on the 833 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: zoom call who does represent Generation C, and I just 834 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: I would like to ask super producer Tricia very quickly, 835 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: Tricia from your ten tho foot view. I don't know 836 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: if you're hearing this or you you know, you've got 837 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: something else happening right now. But Tricia, if you're there, 838 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: do you mind giving your perspective generationally? Am I far 839 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: off and my own old man yelling at the sky? 840 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: What was? What do you think is happening? Damn real 841 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: really lacking? Yeah bad? Tricia? Alright, yeah, no, this is 842 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: being noted. Thanks a lot, Tricia. It sounds like gen 843 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: Z really does like remote work a little too much. Actually, 844 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 845 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and let's talk. Let's talk 846 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: movie releases. I mean there's like the studios are up 847 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: in arms. They're very concerned that nobody knows when a 848 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: movie is coming out. If the movie is coming out, 849 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: that it is only in theaters. A lot of pulling 850 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: is showing consumer confusion. I feel that, Yeah, like Top 851 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: Gun two is still only in theaters like months after 852 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: it was released. I think it's I don't know, I 853 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: because I liked I am always like I find it 854 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: interesting to like see how movies are doing at the 855 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: box office. I like end up like kind of aware 856 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: of like, okay, so that did really well, so that's 857 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: probably not gonna come out on v O D. But 858 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: like if you're not paying attention to that, stuff is 859 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: just like yeah, no, Top Gun that we came out 860 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: like months ago, Why is it still out? And why 861 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: can't I watch it on TV? Yeah? I in my mind, 862 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: I just thought everything came out on streaming. Like That's 863 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: what I've assumed actually for most of the pandemic, Like 864 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: when a movie comes out and I'm always like this 865 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: Ship is only in theaters like that, I'm always like 866 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: ready to sit down and be like, what the funk 867 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: it came out today, and realizing it's only in theaters 868 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: for certain things. But I don't even it doesn't even 869 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: make sense, like what they're prioritizing by putting in theaters 870 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: these days. Like I'm pissed that I didn't realize that 871 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: Are Are Are, which is still my favorite movie I've 872 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: seen this year, the kind of Bollywood action musical just extravaganza, 873 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: like that Ship's out in theaters. I didn't realize that 874 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: was out in theaters, Like I should have seen that 875 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: in theaters before. I watched it in three chunks on 876 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: an iPad over the course of two days. Could you 877 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: do a three hour I can't, ma'am. I I feel 878 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: like three hours. I really have trouble staying engaged in 879 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: a in a movie theater for three hours. Maybe I 880 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: just need to go do that, Just go watch it, 881 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: because then, yeah, I can take pea breaks and it 882 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: will be I won't be missing that much, you know, Jonah, 883 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: what's your what's you been your like movie consumption pattern? 884 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you even like watching stuff? You've just 885 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: given up be like, I don't know, if it's good enough, 886 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: I'll somewhere. Yeah. I was just thinking about this, and 887 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, thinking about that The Irishman, that 888 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: Scorse Asian movie that came out in two thousand nineteen. 889 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: It was like a really big deal that it was 890 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: coming out on like Netflix and in the theaters, and 891 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: now it's we're so used to it. Like I feel 892 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: like now, like you're saying, we expect everything, so I 893 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: would find it hard. Like I have like an indie 894 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: theater near me that and I'll just kind of go 895 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: check out whatever is there. But I can't remember the 896 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: last time I specifically was like I want to go 897 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: see like a Blockbuster film at like a chain theater. 898 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: I think it would take a lot. I don't know 899 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: for me mm hmm to leave the house. It takes 900 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot. Has to be really good. Yeah, I mean 901 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: the last one I saw in the theater was Jurassic 902 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: Park Dominion or whatever, the Lost World Dominion or Old 903 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: Dominion University whatever it's called the university Old Dominion University, 904 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: um like, and that I also my first assumption was 905 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: it was going to be on streaming, and I had 906 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 1: to quickly be like, oh shoot, I got into the 907 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: fucking like movie theater for this, and I think now 908 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: it's already like on streaming, like even in like within 909 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: like wasn't there like some prescribed window that like like 910 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: the studios were trying to do where it's like, all right, 911 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: we'll give like a forty some day days was I 912 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: think pretty standard, um heading into the pandemic and then um, 913 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: and that even seemed short like before I know, Christopher 914 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: Nolan has like ninety days written into his old contract, 915 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it's like now it's basically you know, 916 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: the the um Black Widow movie came out like on 917 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: streaming and like had a massive theatrical release at the 918 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: like on the same day, and I think people think 919 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: it didn't do well because of that, But yeah, I 920 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: mean I don't know. People people are going, people are back, 921 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: they are seeing movies in theaters. So like a big 922 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: reason this is on people's minds is that this movie 923 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: The Gray Man, starring Ryan Gosling as someone who's like 924 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: easy to forget when you see them, Like the the 925 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: idea of The Gray Man is like, you know, a 926 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: CIA agent who's like you know, just blends into the 927 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: background to the point that like they can get away 928 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: with doing stuff and like they're like this sort of 929 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: like yeah exactly, it's like forgettable figure and it's like, yeah, 930 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: so we'll get the handsomest human being like on the 931 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: planet to yeah, forgetable dude. But anyways, Uh, it's like 932 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: a big It cost I think two million dollars, like 933 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: there was the budget for it, and it's coming out 934 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: just on Netflix like there um just putting it on 935 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: Netflix and like doing a theatrical like a limited theatrical 936 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: release like it's an indie movie. Um, but so that's 937 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 1: coming out this weekend and a lot of people seeing 938 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: the ads for that are like wait what that? But 939 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: that's you're giving me ads like it's a blockbuster. It 940 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: has a cast like it's a blockbuster, and it's not 941 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: in theaters. It's just all very strange. What do you 942 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: My broader question to you both, is is it like 943 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: they the pandemic has kind of like open Pandora's box 944 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: for like the sort of obscuring or blending together of 945 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: like film and streaming that like the prestige, the perceived 946 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: prestige is getting diluted a little bit because now our 947 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: idea of like what a big movie is. We also 948 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: kind of expect to be on our TV at home, 949 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: and it's almost like, yeah, whatever want to give about theater, 950 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: like can I stream it right now? And is that 951 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: kind of like is that beginning to change how we're 952 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: even like perceiving what a film is or not? You know, yeah, 953 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's very similar actually to 954 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: like the remote work idea, where people wouldn't be like, oh, 955 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: this is never possible, and then you see it's possible 956 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: and people don't want to go back. Like I bet you. 957 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: Forbes wrote an article like gen Z doesn't like streaming 958 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: movies at home. They going spending fifty to go to 959 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: the theater every time. Yeah, every time a movie comes 960 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: out that doesn't do well at theaters, they write article 961 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: there turns out gen Z is rejecting the yeah, or 962 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: or I guess every time the movie comes up does 963 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: do well? Top Gune. I'm sure they were, like there 964 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: were pieces that were like, turns out gen Z is 965 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: ready to go back to theaters, right. Is gen Z 966 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: responsible for the death of the cinema? You know, like 967 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, or or is everybody like young broker 968 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: ship don't put that question too, like instead of being 969 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 1: like the with the millennials, it's like they like avocados 970 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: more than house rather than being like they've been fucked 971 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: multiple times by recessions. And then that with gen Z, 972 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know these kids like used clothes, 973 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: how they dress. It's like the we're thrifting. I don't know, 974 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: what do you want to say? You're like a little 975 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of difference there, but yeah, I feel 976 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: like there's part of the confusion is like I don't 977 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: know if it's a good or bad thing for like 978 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: the movie industry, because like you're spending two d million 979 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: dollars and people are like, I don't know, is that 980 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: like a TV show? You know? Like and we also 981 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: have so many prestige TV shows with like with like 982 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: talent that we used to silo in our minds is 983 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: being like film talent or TV talent that I think 984 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: it's all coming together now to just become like the 985 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: audio visual industry. Um, I don't know if if that's 986 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: like if that's like a more of a meta problem 987 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: that they have to consider. It is like people aren't 988 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are taking in stuff. 989 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: Is like being like it has to be in theaters, 990 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: like maybe Avatar too, like has a shout for something 991 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, like the The gray Man thing, like 992 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: I I feel like I don't have like strong opinions 993 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: or like no, I guess nobody has figured it out. 994 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: But like when I see something that feels wrong, I 995 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: know it, and like The gray Man not being in 996 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: theaters doesn't make sense to me, Like they should have 997 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: released it in theaters, and like I think the only 998 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: reason they didn't is because like Netflix paid for it, 999 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: and so Netflix is like, no, we we want it 1000 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: to be like the big Netflix thing, but like that 1001 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: they should have released it, Like it's the type of movie, 1002 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 1: like a big budget like action movie, an amazing cast 1003 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: like that, that's the sort of thing that's supposed to 1004 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: come out in theaters and then and then you can 1005 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: put it on that But guess what, gen Z doesn't 1006 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: funk with cinema anymore, so now it has to be 1007 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: on streaming. It even seems like an odd business decision 1008 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: for Netflix, who was like being like, we're viable as 1009 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: a business, Like you're not gonna turn the like box 1010 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: office revenue speak it on and just be like for 1011 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: the people maybe we'll draw in more people with this film, right, 1012 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: Like their whole thing is like that they know a 1013 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: lot about what people want to watch, Like that's supposed 1014 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: to be like the thing that makes them different. Like 1015 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: you could definitely apply that to theatrical movies as well. 1016 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, I don't know. Put your prayers up. 1017 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: Put your prayers up for them, prayers up for the 1018 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: movie industree, prayers up for the mouse House? And what 1019 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: are what are the shitty like trade nicknames for all 1020 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: the other ones? I forgot? It's the house that Mouse built, 1021 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: right and uh, mouse House. I don't know if there's 1022 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: other one. I don't know, dude, I've avoided the industry 1023 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: trade magazines for a while now, and that's learning about 1024 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: Armie Hammer selling time shares in the Cayman Islands. What 1025 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: a run? Um? Well, Jonah, it's been such a pleasure 1026 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you? Follow you all 1027 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: that good stuff? Yeah? Sure, you can check out our 1028 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: podcast on my heart. Also, how do we get weird 1029 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,919 Speaker 1: that I co host with Vanessa or my sister, Thank 1030 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: you so much. So we have a new episode at 1031 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: today with Michelle from Japanese Breakfast, So that that's a 1032 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 1: really fun one and I'm on Twitter Jonah and Bear 1033 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: and um yeah, you can check on my website. It's 1034 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: do a lot of music writing. And yeah, that's pretty 1035 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: much it. I guess nice your sister's character on Weekend 1036 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: Update of the Young Boy, like I think having a 1037 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: bar Mitzvah or I forget the name Jacob the bar 1038 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: Mitzvah boy partially inspired by me as thirteen year old. 1039 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: I've always wondered that it is. I think one of 1040 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 1: like on my top five SNL characters of all time. 1041 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: It's so good and like deeply just like perfect and human. 1042 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: It's like so so wonderful. So that yeah, it's like 1043 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: some of the best SNL characters always based off someone's sibling, 1044 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: like Garth is like Dana Carvey's brother. Is it? I 1045 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: didn't know that either? Amazing. Is there a tweet or 1046 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying, 1047 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: I like, I don't know if you're familiar with John Worcester. 1048 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: He plays drums in a bunch of bands, Superchunk, the 1049 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: Mountain Goats, He plays with bomb Mold a lot. He 1050 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: is on social media. I feel like just one of 1051 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: the funniest people. A lot of it's music oriented, but 1052 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: um yeah, John Warster is just someone i've I think 1053 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: it's great on social media, very funny, very silly. Check 1054 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: it out, Miles, where can people find you? What's the 1055 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram at Miles of Gray 1056 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: g r A y because I see a lot of 1057 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: y'all hitting me up with the g R E y 1058 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: spelling and that is upsetting because that's not money. Also, 1059 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: check out the other podcast you know, Miles and Jack 1060 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: got Matt Boostiees. That's the Basketball podcast. A great episode 1061 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: this week are this last week with c J. Toldano. 1062 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: Check out four twenty Day Fiance where I talk ninety 1063 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra Uh. Some tweets that I like. First, 1064 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: one is from wactose Intolerant at Millie Tamarrows tweeted listening 1065 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: to classic rock and in parentheses kids by MGMT, which 1066 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: is how I feel when you go from classic rock stations. 1067 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: And then this other one I'm just gonna put in 1068 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: the Twitter chat or the zoom chats. You can see 1069 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: the picture. It's from Gator's Daily at Gator's Daily and 1070 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a picture of a big giant like looks like 1071 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: ran over like gator, and it just says it's flat 1072 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: fuck Friday. Fucking gator is so big and looks like 1073 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 1: a flattened piece of chewing gum. It's not like road kill. 1074 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: It's just how it looks. But I just like the 1075 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: aggression of its flat fuck friday um. You can find 1076 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, I've been enjoying 1077 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: a tweet from Joe at Gulture tweeted reminder not to 1078 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: put sunglasses on your dog for a fun picture in 1079 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: the sun. This is actually very bad for the dog 1080 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: as it gives them a false sense of confidence that 1081 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: makes them look really cool, which can be dangerous when 1082 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: you take them off again and they have to go 1083 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: back to normal dog. And I also like to cute nature. 1084 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: Behf tweeted If I had a girlfriend, I would take 1085 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: her to get ice cream and then pretend I don't 1086 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: hear anything as she totally blows up my toilet later, 1087 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: which is the nice thing to do. Boyfriends out there, 1088 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: boyfriends of the world, Yeah, let go of that padolescent 1089 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:14,479 Speaker 1: or its to be like, oh cool, met a plunger. Yeah. 1090 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeygeist. We're 1091 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: at the Daily zey Guys on Instagram. We have a 1092 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Facebook fan page and website Daily zych Guys dot com 1093 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: where we post our episodes on our foot note where 1094 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about 1095 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song that we 1096 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: think you might Enjore Miles, what song do we think 1097 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: people might injure? I think you know. William Hart, who 1098 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: is the lead singer of the Delphonics, passed away last week. 1099 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: And the Delphonics are fantastic, you know, R and B 1100 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: soul group, but also like for lovers of hip hop, 1101 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: the Delphonics have provided many soundles art form we call 1102 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: hip hop. So let's go out on a track that 1103 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: informed to banger tracks. The first one, so the track, 1104 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 1: just so you know, it's called ready or Not Here 1105 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: I Come? And that inspired the Fuji's Ready or Not 1106 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Here I Come and also sampled Socket to Me by 1107 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. Also that horn sample. Uh, It's just like 1108 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: all their music is fantastic, and I'm sure many people 1109 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: are familiar with the Delphonics even if you don't know 1110 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: them explicitly. So check out Ready or Not Here I 1111 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: come by the Delphon Express in piece of William Hart, 1112 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 1: the Delphonics and yeah, just enjoy the smooth soul starting 1113 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: alright well, The Daily Zy Guys a productor by Heart Radio. 1114 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: For more podcast for my heart Radio is the I 1115 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to 1116 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: your favorite shows that it is going to do it 1117 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell 1118 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: you what is trending and we'll talk to you all 1119 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: then bye bye