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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. Quick one after the series ended. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about. It was a terrible series. Let's

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Speaker 2: just say it upright out front. Terrible, terrible series. It

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Speaker 2: was not good. The Mets are just not clicking. They

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Speaker 2: fought hard, like I'll give them that. The Mets definitely

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Speaker 2: fought back obviously in Game three, even in Game two,

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Speaker 2: in game one, but the play, the quality of play

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Speaker 2: is just not there. And really, outside of Pete Alonso

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Speaker 2: and the pitching, pitching still been good. There's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of positives to take out of this series, so

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Speaker 2: we'll go over all the games, all the storylines and

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Speaker 2: James give the people initial reaction, How are you feeling

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Speaker 2: after that series?

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Speaker 1: Bad? If the Twins didn't suck on Monday, we could

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Speaker 1: have gotten swept this series. Like, that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: it was the Mets. This was probably their sleepiest series

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Speaker 1: the entire year. I know it's cold, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's like the excuse a lot of people are going with,

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Speaker 1: but there wasn't. Really, there wasn't. It wasn't much an

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Speaker 1: excuse for just playing a lot of bad fundamental baseball

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Speaker 1: this series. We haven't really seen the Mets play bad

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Speaker 1: fundamental baseball since they kind of got right Yeah last April,

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Speaker 1: like the middle of last May. That was kind of

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. So it's just I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: it's concerning, but definitely watching this series, you're like, this

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a team that's one of the best

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Speaker 1: teams in baseball. I'm not saying they are, not saying

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Speaker 1: they're not. It just doesn't feel like a team that

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Speaker 1: is as cohesive enough that actually can.

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Speaker 2: Be Yeah, I'm gonna put out a little like an

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Speaker 2: advisory thing right now, like I'm gonna say some negative

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Speaker 2: things about Francisco Lindoor in wan Soto and it's not

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Speaker 2: indicative of them as the players. I still have all

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Speaker 2: the faith in the world that as soon as the

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Speaker 2: month of May comes around, these guys are gonna be

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Speaker 2: great and they're gonna have great seasons. But it is

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Speaker 2: so incredibly frustrating that every April for April, Francisco Indoor stinks, disappears.

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Speaker 2: He's been terrible defensively this year at shortstop. There's no

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Speaker 2: doubt about that. These are objective facts. He's made four

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Speaker 2: errors I think at the short stop position. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: really their around second base to make tags. He didn't

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Speaker 2: look ready at times for plays. It seems like his

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Speaker 2: mind's just not really locked in like we've seen with

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Speaker 2: Francisco Lindoor in the past. And at the plate. The

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Speaker 2: at bats are horrible, They're terrible. It doesn't seem like

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Speaker 2: looks bad. And again I love Francisco Lindoor as a player.

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Speaker 2: Much better Wednesday, Yeah, much better Wednesday, but still wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: Still wasn't very good, Like he really only had that

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Speaker 2: he's had some bad at bats, and I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: so tired of the bad version of Lindor because he

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Speaker 2: perennial MVP can in every single year it's diving close.

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Speaker 2: But for the first twenty five games of the season,

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Speaker 2: he's non existent. And because of the bad defense. Now,

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Speaker 2: at least the last couple of seasons, he like hadn't

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Speaker 2: top of Juan Soto being in such a fucking funk,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't look like the same player at all. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: why can't we have nice things all the time. Why

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Speaker 2: can't he just be the thousand ops player that he is.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna stink. I'm not worried about

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Speaker 1: Again disappeared, lightly disappeared almost has nine hundred ops. But

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Speaker 1: gonna don't worry, guys, we will get to the New

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Speaker 1: York Post things. We think that this week the the

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Speaker 1: media Marvel, Mike Get its Own show, Mike Get's Own video,

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Speaker 1: So keep a lookout tomorrow because that New York Post

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Speaker 1: article was so egregious, would yea egregious and ridiculous and

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Speaker 1: the outcry was insane.

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Speaker 2: Shout Jerry Blevens. He was talking about on the post

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Speaker 2: game it's a non story, but we're gonna get angry,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna flip the script and get mad at the story.

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Speaker 1: Yes, in a separate media Marvel episode that will be

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Speaker 1: on YouTube channel the audio Feed tomorrow. But so though

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Speaker 1: did have two of the worst the biggest opportunities in

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Speaker 1: which was it just kind of sucked to watch considering

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Speaker 1: like what everything was like that unassisted double play Edward Julians,

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Speaker 1: This seems like the kind situation I want. So the

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Speaker 1: Ending with the Mets rallied and went went hard and

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Speaker 1: winded up tiny the game. Whef he's on base, you

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Speaker 1: probably break up in the floodgates actually win this game.

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Speaker 1: It's just a lot of little things that team's not

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Speaker 1: They're peeing that played bad. I think there's a big

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Speaker 1: the earlier part of the season. No true, there were

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Speaker 1: He's not hitting at all. He's not really taking good

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Speaker 2: The first pitch wasn't even close either. It was like

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Speaker 2: being aggressive early in the count, like against relievers when

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Speaker 2: being out of the leadoff spot, being where he's hitting

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Speaker 2: right now, it feels like he is being way too aggressive.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Nimo's rarely seeing ball a deep ball

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Speaker 2: counts where it's like two three balls in the count.

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Speaker 2: He's so aggressive and it's not working. And I think

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Speaker 2: before where he was able to jump on pittures because

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Speaker 2: Nimo had the the book on Nimo was that he's

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Speaker 2: Now it seems like pictures are like, Oh, he's swinging

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Speaker 2: at everything. He's coming out ready, he's coming out aggressive.

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Speaker 2: We don't actually have to give him a pitch to hit.

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Speaker 2: He'll go and chase a little bit more, which I

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Speaker 1: And again something's happening this season. And there was a

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Speaker 1: really good article by Nate Schwartz, who's good ri The

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Speaker 1: in pictureless this week is that pitchers are just throwing

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Speaker 1: more balls in the strikesone right now cross Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 1: and again it's sending walks down. I believe strikeouts are

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Speaker 1: kind of staying to say neutral, but Nemo has seen

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest increases of a pitch in the

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Speaker 1: fifty five percent of pitches against Brandimo's year in the

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Speaker 1: strike cent with the major league average is only forty

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Speaker 1: has been more aggressive the first pitch swing. You're right,

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Speaker 1: so far this season, brand Nemo swinging at the first

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Speaker 1: one of the highest rates in all of baseball, when

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Speaker 1: for his career he's under thirty percent, and even last

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Speaker 1: it was thirty three percent, so that that bak of

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Speaker 1: a jump is crazy. And also himself, he's swinging much more.

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Speaker 1: This is right now the first time, not a full sample,

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Speaker 1: He's a fifty two percent right now. Pitches he's see

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Speaker 1: seems very different for Nemo. And again, he is getting

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Speaker 1: but he's not doing the level of damage that we'd

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Speaker 1: same for Lindora, and all of them still have fine

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Speaker 1: underlying stuff like I'm definitely not concerned, still really long

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Speaker 1: than opecially the hardest order to hit. That's why that

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Speaker 1: a top of the oither just said, fuck this, We're

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Speaker 1: not losing this game this way, and the guys who

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Speaker 1: are some of the best edits in baseball said, bang,

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Speaker 1: let's hit the ball. But then similar guys that similar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, God blessed Peter Alonzo. I don't know

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Speaker 1: It's almost like hitting and running and scoring positions like

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Speaker 5: Did you miss this?

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Speaker 2: I was about to get out of the inning, and

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Speaker 1: And it's just baseball game benches like Buddla didn't like

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Speaker 1: That's kind of that's just kind of good baseball stuff.

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Speaker 1: So many little teeny tiny things happened. It all came

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Speaker 1: But all some classic Rosser manipulation, the Mets sending down

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Speaker 2: a pretzel if he had to think about that one.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think all the time about like moments

431
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Speaker 1: where David Searns does get annoyed to Billy Eppler, and

432
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Speaker 1: I think about the Edmundz contract. We were texting about

433
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Speaker 1: that today. I think about the Starring Martech contract all

434
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Speaker 1: the time, because again, that guy just doesn't seem to

435
00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,640
Speaker 1: be doing a lot of things that helps the team

436
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,240
Speaker 1: win a day in day out, basis taking up a

437
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,560
Speaker 1: roster spot where in this game they mess wanted to

438
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,360
Speaker 1: pinch hit for Hayden Sanger and they had Marte and

439
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,680
Speaker 1: Mark Fientos in the bench, never wund up getting in

440
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Speaker 1: at bat, so I guess looking back, it wasn't the

441
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Speaker 1: best idea, but Torrence had to go pinch hit for

442
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Speaker 1: Sanger because we just don't have a deep enough bench

443
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Speaker 1: to be burning position player to then put Torrens in

444
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 1: the game. Anyways, it's it's tight. This is a weird

445
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,920
Speaker 1: tight series. The best kind of tried to type rope

446
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,479
Speaker 1: their way through and just weren't able to do it.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's It was so frustrating, so frushing,

448
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Speaker 2: Like even the game that they won, they didn't really

449
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Speaker 2: even play that well. The Twins really kind of just

450
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,120
Speaker 2: gave it to us. Clay Holmes pitched a great first

451
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Speaker 2: four innings and then it all fell apart in spectacular faction.

452
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Speaker 2: It was unbelievably stressful. Couldn't believe he got out of it.

453
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 2: But like, the pitching really has been the saving grace

454
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Speaker 2: of this team because the offense is just so ice cold.

455
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Speaker 2: They never like we've seen what maybe one or two

456
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Speaker 2: games where they've all hit together, and you're like, holy shit,

457
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Speaker 2: like here's the vision, it's happening, and they're getting Marlins. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 2: and it was only against the Marlins, So why can

459
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Speaker 2: we all hit together?

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Speaker 5: Please? Like I thought Soto was figuring it out. He

461
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Speaker 5: got the home runs. I thought it was happening. He

462
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Speaker 5: was like, yes, I thought.

463
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Speaker 2: That stupid New York Post article and all the hubbub

464
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Speaker 2: got him fired up. And then he had the worst

465
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Speaker 2: game of his Mets career where he goes over five

466
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Speaker 2: to three strikeouts and crumbled in every big moment.

467
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Speaker 1: It was like, ah, it's also obvious. They mentioned Gary

468
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Speaker 1: mentioned during the ninth inning of that game that this

469
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Speaker 1: was the first time Solo had ever faced jo On Duran,

470
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Speaker 1: and I think that if there's any guy in the

471
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Speaker 1: league that to face the first time makes it really

472
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Speaker 1: really hard, I think it's Duran because his pitches are

473
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Speaker 1: He's an Aliens. Pitches are so freaky. We'll talk about

474
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Speaker 1: Game two, but everyone got on Lindor for the white

475
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Speaker 1: struckouts to end that game, which it wasn't the best

476
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Speaker 1: at that I've ever seen for Cisco Lindor take. But

477
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Speaker 1: also you watch Jo and Durant pitch. It's just that's

478
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: a hot tip because the guy's throwing ninety two three

479
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: mile hour splinkers with tons of drop and tons of

480
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 1: armside run with crazy sweepers one hundred two mile an

481
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Speaker 1: hour fastballs. But again it's just not a serious It's

482
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Speaker 1: again everyone keeps talking about the cold. Everyone keep talking

483
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: about in that game a Monday look looked obscenely cold.

484
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Speaker 1: These are games, as I'm saying, I know.

485
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Speaker 2: Like outside of Matt Wallner and no Bailly Oobrah thinks.

486
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Speaker 2: I don't know where Bailey Ober's from. But Matt Walner,

487
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Speaker 2: I know, is the only guy I think Balllyovers objectively

488
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: who's like from He's from Minnesota. Like you're looking at

489
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Speaker 2: this lineup, I guess Edward Julian two is from Canada,

490
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Speaker 2: but like Byron Bucks and I'm sure the cold type

491
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Speaker 2: Franz Carlos Correa, Willie Castro, Harrison Bader like I know

492
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Speaker 2: he's from New York. But telling you it doesn't like

493
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Speaker 2: the cold either. Probably I hate the excuse and I'm

494
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Speaker 2: tired of it too. Everybody else plays in the cold also.

495
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Speaker 1: We're not some great visuals that game on Monday night

496
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Speaker 1: with Solo in the hooding Akunya with the like everyone's

497
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Speaker 1: like looks, they look cold, and again like the Monday game,

498
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: it was a it was a tough game against good picture.

499
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Speaker 1: Joe Ryan's a very good pictuer, Like that's okay, and

500
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Speaker 1: like thankfully the Twins handles this game on his silver platter,

501
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: and like the weird plays where they threw Willie Castro

502
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Speaker 1: threw the ball to Mark Fianzo's back when you're standing

503
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Speaker 1: at second base, Mark Mark Fivanta is so woefully on

504
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: that flight he couldn't even take third on that play.

505
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Speaker 1: But then Fiento's comes around to score because the next play,

506
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: justin Topa airmails the ball the first base, and then

507
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Jory alcol later made another bad throw that I think

508
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: someone came around to score on. No, no, there's just narrative.

509
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Speaker 5: And then the picture the.

510
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Speaker 1: Twins had their pictures at doing PFP's before the game

511
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, which is an insane thing that a Major

512
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: League baseball team would be doing it in April before

513
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Speaker 1: a night game. And then Solo hits the home run,

514
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: that game gets out of hand, You're like, not a hand,

515
00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: but you win that game. He's like, all right, nice,

516
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: let's just keeplah blah blah' keep rolling roll and rolling.

517
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: It's just not it's just never rolls like Theando's gets

518
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: that big hit and he takes some more bad at

519
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: bats on Tuesday, Like so it hits the two home runs,

520
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: takes his worse that bats on Wednesday. There's no click yet,

521
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: there's no there's no rhythm, there's no flow. They're not

522
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: like they're not there yet. They're not together yet. I hope.

523
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Speaker 1: I was hoping that this big road trip would be

524
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Speaker 1: the thing that brought these guys together, because there are

525
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of new faces on this team, and not

526
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: a bunch, but there's definitely a handful of new faces,

527
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: mainly being the guy who's making eight hundred million dollars.

528
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Speaker 1: So I figured, like, road trip's nice time for these

529
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Speaker 1: guys to code, get to know each other a little bit, better,

530
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Speaker 1: spend some time, play some cars, go out to eat.

531
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Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like there's uh this cohesion yet.

532
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 5: No, not yet.

533
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: It definitely feels like something's something's missing, the thing that

534
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: kept them so locked in at the end of the

535
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: year that that vibe and energy and maybe it was

536
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Speaker 2: fucking jose Igleacius.

537
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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

538
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it was Jade Martinez, but like something, something is

539
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: just slightly off right now. They're just and maybe it's

540
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Speaker 2: maybe it's because it's April sixteenth, and maybe this is

541
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: a really long season and maybe the Mets have played

542
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: a tenth of their schedule and there's so much season

543
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 2: left and they're like, hey, April, it's cold, like fuck whatever.

544
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: But like ah, as a fan, it's just like, I

545
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: we know.

546
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 5: This team is good.

547
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: I think people in baseball know this team is good,

548
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: especially with how the pitching is looking. Because again the

549
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: pitching has been awesome.

550
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 5: We just need to hit. We need to hit.

551
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: Shout out Luis on Hellacunya looking really good, and you

552
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: know what, shout Brett Baty played a great third base

553
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: again in Game three, couple hits.

554
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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

555
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: It seems like maybe putting him at second base might

556
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: have really fucked him up hitting as well at the

557
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Speaker 2: major league level.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kunya had a tremendous series like this to

559
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: me was like his statement series. And again you get

560
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: that news that Jeff McNeil has been getting some reps

561
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: and is going to get some reps in centerfield assignment.

562
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: Like hilarious that thirty three year old Jeff mcnil's going

563
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: to be getting some center field reps. But I think

564
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: that there's something happening right now where the Mets want

565
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: to manicure this roster so they can find a way

566
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Speaker 1: as long as possible to try and keep both the

567
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Speaker 1: Kunya and baby on the major league team. Because we've

568
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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the fact that both of these

569
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: guys only have one option left, and we'retill gonna talk

570
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: about his gas a little bit more. Now we're getting

571
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Speaker 1: some dens just like roster team franchise talk.

572
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I guess we'll breeth you talk about

573
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: some picture stuff. But we kind of talked about the

574
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: game so I were talking about game too at all.

575
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of Game two stuff that I

576
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: would like to talk about, I guess, but it would

577
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: just it really benefits. The long term values are more

578
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: like the short term value to keep Acunian Bathy on

579
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: this major league roster for as long as possible because

580
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: each of them have one option season left and both

581
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: of them made the major league teams technically out of

582
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: the camp. So the second one of those guys has

583
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: to go back to the minor leagues. Their last option

584
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: has been burned, and any flexibility you have with them

585
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: in the future goes right out the window. So I'm

586
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: sure that they really want if you can bring Jeff

587
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: Neil out to this team and say he can play

588
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: some center field, and then possibly when Jeff McNeil gets healthy,

589
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: you can have Louis had Hellacunie start to work with

590
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: Antoine Richison and start to play the center field like

591
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: he was doing last year a lot more during the

592
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: summer at Triple A with Syracuse. Now something you can

593
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: keep all these guys in the roster, and if you

594
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: can keep even just for next year one of these

595
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: guys being Baiting and Couney to have an option, it

596
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: dramatically changes the way they're viewed, like in terms of

597
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: like the their forty man roster value flexibilit Yeah.

598
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Speaker 2: Because where Akunya I think has earned just staying on

599
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: the roster. Baty is looking better, I think we can say,

600
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: especially when he's been playing third base, he looks a

601
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: lot more comfortable at the plate, which should go figure.

602
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: The bottom line though, of Baby, as bad as he's

603
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: still been at the plate most of the time, you

604
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: got the two hits on Onday.

605
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

606
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: The third base he's by far the best defense. If

607
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: their basement, the entire.

608
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: ENT's just looked awful, it looks terrible, still still looks

609
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: really bad. So like as bad as Baby has been,

610
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: Vento's hasn't been much better.

611
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Speaker 5: And Baty's giving you defense right now.

612
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: So it's like there's this weird thing happening at that

613
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: third base position that we thought was gonna happen like

614
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Speaker 2: three years ago, and it's happening now.

615
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, just where the fact of like right now in

616
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: a vacuum, Like if these two guys, if you extrapolate

617
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: what they've done over an entire year, who's gonna be

618
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: the more valuable player? Oddly, just because Baby gives you

619
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Speaker 1: plus defense is more valuable until Vento starts to hit.

620
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Speaker 5: And I really got Spiento's hits.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Monday was he popped that lid off,

622
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: then it was bad at bats, then he was out

623
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: and it was like this is And also there there

624
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: was that play down the line in Game two on

625
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Tuesday night where he did make a good play down

626
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: the line to stop that double, Yes, but they're part

627
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: of it. To me, feels like a guy that if

628
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: you might not be able to might not have to

629
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: leave your feet for a play like that, depending on

630
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: who you are, if you're not Mark Vindel's. I'm not

631
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: sure I did see that on Baseball Sawan that ball

632
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: in play just based on how hard it was hitting

633
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: where it was hit and expected bagging average around two hundred,

634
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: which that's telling you to play that that their basement

635
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: probably should be making loss. So it doesn't take in

636
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: infia positions. So maybe Devianda's playing more off the line,

637
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: so again not chastising him for that, but it is

638
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: just it's just on defense. It's obvious that Beats is

639
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: much better defensive player than Mark Viando's.

640
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 6: Can't.

641
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: You cannot take that away from it, no matter what's

642
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: going on with the.

643
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: Bad No, But then right now they're both not hitting

644
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: at a good level, so it's that's kind of the situation.

645
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about Game two a little bit,

646
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: because we kind of talked about.

647
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 5: Game one play homes.

648
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Speaker 1: Give me a well, I have a couple of play

649
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: homes notes to say too. Definitely, like some stuff where

650
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: you see like he's building. This was the first he

651
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: brought back the sinker hard this start against the lefties,

652
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: where he did that a lot. In the first game

653
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: against the Astros, where didn't look like he was really

654
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: comfortable with all his pitches yet, But then he just

655
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: didn't throw any change of that matchup either. So this

656
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: is the first time against lefties it was heavy single

657
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: and change up that Asher was on up only had

658
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: one lefty in the game. Oh yeah, true, yes, THO numbers. Yeah,

659
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: it's just your down THO numbers are was cute anyway,

660
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: But so the other two games where he's facing good,

661
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: bad bit of lefties, he didn't throw those either of

662
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: those pitches very much. This is the most you threw

663
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: either of them. And then he started to get with

664
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: a lefty. The changeup had six whists. He really dropped

665
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: some nice ones in there. Went away from a lot

666
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: of stuff. The chaos ending, though, he's always gonna have

667
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a chaos ending, but like five strikeouts in the first two,

668
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: retired eleven of the first twelve, like there's always gonna

669
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: be yeah, yeah, right, so it's gonna be the walk,

670
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: the hit by pitch. Then it was a wild pitch

671
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: and a walk, then a sack fly, then just miracles

672
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: that with one run. But it's we're building, we're building

673
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: good things to Clay Homes.

674
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely anything else pitching from that game where you

675
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: want to move on to game two now, No, that

676
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: was it and just like the brief game too, it

677
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: was just yeah, it was painful.

678
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's uh.

679
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: He's just he's in such a weird, weird funk because

680
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: we've hates April. Yeah, must hate the month of April.

681
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Like I want to know what happened like in that

682
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: month to him, because it's it seems like he scorned

683
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: by it. But we're acus to the bat being slow,

684
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: but the glove being the way it has is shocking.

685
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: And then it's also like, at least again the only

686
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: thing about Lindor he always says the right things after

687
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: the game, and this time maybe maybe even too contry

688
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: with it where he said it's unacceptable's happening right now. True,

689
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: it's unacceptable. I have to be better. It's not the

690
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: standard the Mets have, It's not the standard that I

691
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: have for myself. It's been two games already that I've

692
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: cost the team. I got into it with some people

693
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter after the game because I was they were

694
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: like Lindora's single hands. They lost this game. I was like,

695
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: Lindore didn't wasn't It wasn't all nine guys in the lineup.

696
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: That's just not true. Lindor didn't let the leadoff guy

697
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: get on in five consecutive innings pitching on the mouth.

698
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: So that's not the end of the day.

699
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: There were still four and runs in this game in

700
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 5: the Mets, Like you know.

701
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like then you can't really say shit

702
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, McGill wasn't sharp. It was he

703
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: lost a slider movement that he had. He wasn't getting

704
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: on top of that ball the same way. It was

705
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: not dropping as much as it had last few starts.

706
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: It was not put the way pitch for him like

707
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: it's been early in the season. Again, that's one thing

708
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: that you might be able to attribute to the cold,

709
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: but again, just lick your hand, dude. You gotta find

710
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: a way to grip that ball, like you have to

711
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: find a way. Like Bailey, Oprah didn't really have a

712
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: problem either. His change up looked really good, really good

713
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: picture every single inning. The Twins got the lead off

714
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: guy on base, and it was just nickel and diming.

715
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: It was groundballs through the hall, that was fields as

716
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: choices scoring runs. But it just it all comes back

717
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: to McGill not being able to put hitters away, not

718
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: getting ahead of hitters as much as he had in

719
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the past, not being able to end these innings, and

720
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: then not letting this game kind of not not go

721
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: our way.

722
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the up tech definitely hit a little bit differently

723
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: in this one, and we also saw Max crant To

724
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: give up his first earned runs as a New York Met,

725
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: which for that pull one out.

726
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: But he's still good. He's still great.

727
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: You know.

728
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: It is what it is, just play better baseball. Like

729
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: the Mets are better than the Twins. It felt like

730
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: the last two games of the series, they get got out,

731
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: played out, hustled a little bit. The Twins wanted it

732
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: a little more. Felt like, Yeah, it's and it's not

733
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: from a necessarily lack of caring from the Mets. It

734
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: just felt like the Twins outworked the Mets. That's a

735
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: great way to put it again.

736
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: I think that was also a team that knew their

737
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: backs were literally up against the wall. Like it seems

738
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: like doing those pffs before that game on Tuesday. That's

739
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: full blow manager calling. That's crazy, yeah, But also good

740
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: move on rockaball Delly to do that, because this team

741
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't even you could feel their energy, especially in the

742
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: game on Wednesday, especially Bucksted, the guy who's definitely the

743
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: leader of this team, like he's the guy there still

744
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: even with Craig getting hurt middle of the game on

745
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday and not even playing on Wednesday until the last

746
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: couple innings where he was taking extra bases, he was

747
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: moving around like he was busting his ass the way

748
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: he scored two in that bang Bang play on Tuesday

749
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: where he beat the Luisa Hellacunya throw by less than

750
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: an inch a quarter of an inch, just because the

751
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: Aucuni throw was like four inches too much on the

752
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: first base side compared to the third base side, which

753
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: is a bank ban play good ball by him getting

754
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: out of the glove now the perfect throw, but Buckson

755
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: just Superman's at home. It was like that was a

756
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: guy that's like, I'm leading this team. We're not playing

757
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: up to our standards.

758
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: We have to win.

759
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: So part of his tipping the cap, but part of

760
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: this you just have to be better as the Mets.

761
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, me's gotta show up. They didn't really show up

762
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: on Tuesday and Wednesday. It was just it was too late.

763
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: It was too late for them to show up. Like

764
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: they had all the opportunities to hit David Festa and

765
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: all the opportunities to score some runs. Funny enough, they

766
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: get your guy Griffin jacks who you love so much, but.

767
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: They get to him.

768
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: But it was reversed on Tuesday where the Griffin Jackson demolished

769
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: them and then we got to John Duran. So it's funny.

770
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you got from the last

771
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: game as well? On the pitching side, I mean, I

772
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: guess it's yeah, yeah, I mean something I don't really

773
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: even deep talk about because I just I don't know

774
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: if he's gonna be here much longer stuff and not

775
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: going to be but it's going.

776
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: To be a post star that. I saw a lot

777
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: of Mets fans on Twitter being like Horrifi being like,

778
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: this is a joke. We have to start a guy

779
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: like Justin Hagenan for this team with this payroll. But

780
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: it's like also Mets fans being like it's a it's

781
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: like the PTSD from the old time's a Buckey start

782
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: that they gets the giant he gave a billion runs.

783
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I think it's also it's a good thing to remember, Yeah,

784
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: good things to remember from this team that this is.

785
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: This is not the same organizationally as the Mets teams

786
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: from our past. I think as growing up as Mets

787
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: fans threw you know, guys like Steve Phillips and the

788
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: situations with Jim u Quatt and like all these guys

789
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: like it was you know, I mean Brody, it was

790
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: Billy Eppler. Like it's like being a Mets fan from

791
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: this era is kind of like when you like pick

792
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: up a new dog from the shelter where you're being

793
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: really nice to the dog and you pets dog, but flinches,

794
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: it goes on around in a while, still doesn't trust you. Yeah,

795
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so we kind of have

796
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: those feelings now where this is just like there this

797
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: is the first time in our in our Met fan

798
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: watch lives that there's like a really really really smart

799
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: person who's really aware of what's going on in the

800
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: edges controlling this stuff. And David Stands brought in Justin Hageman,

801
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: like in November one of the first guys they signed

802
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: this offseason. It was for the purpose of making a

803
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: handful of spots stars hopefully at some point this season,

804
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: and it worked and just too I hit.

805
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Two quick things I'll mention about the relievers. On Wednesday,

806
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Wasscar Brozo Bond looked great again again. They mentioned that

807
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: apparently Brazobon has like super a hard time like believing

808
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: in himself, and that the Mets have been really really

809
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: positive with him and he's taken super well to it.

810
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: And Keith goes, I'll tell you, from the age of

811
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: like two to the age of forty, players love to

812
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: hear how good they are from their coaches. He was like,

813
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: so you know what I'm with Wasscar Brazobond, like, I'm

814
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: sure he loves to hear that kind of stuff. He's like,

815
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: that will never get old. And then two aj Minterer

816
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: looked really, really good. He was throwing ninety five. The

817
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: cutter was great, the change up was really good. He

818
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: gets five big booms.

819
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: Boom boom boom boom boom. Okay.

820
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Also the one weird play where a Kunya didn't cover

821
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: second base that you wanted to talk about briefly, Yes,

822
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: but I told I said he was absolved because he

823
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: got the hit to tie the game, because we love

824
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: this a little freak at the little Merrifield.

825
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 5: He's a he's such a plugged little guy.

826
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, him sprinting to first base was out of

827
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: control and saying, I can't wrap my head around why

828
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: in the world he did that.

829
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 5: I don't know why that was his instinct. I don't

830
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: know why that was his reaction. I pray to god,

831
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: that's not what the Mets are teaching him to do,

832
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: but it was.

833
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: It was a major just brain fort of like I

834
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: don't know where to go, so I'm gonna sprint the

835
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: first He.

836
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Just he was walking to our second base on the

837
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Brian Bucks Byron Bucks and single the center field to

838
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: score the run. And then for some reason, after two

839
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: steps second base, he literally won eighty turn bline the

840
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: first It was like why, and then Mark and I

841
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: had the semantics argument text, But whether that was a

842
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: brain fart or something that was just else that was wrong,

843
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: which he was sleeping or brain fart, Yeah, yeah, I

844
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but whatever it is, he

845
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: absolved that. He had an amazing series statement statement week

846
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: for Luis Alacuna, proving that he's a major League baseball player,

847
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: deserves to be here.

848
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 5: He's a pest.

849
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: I like him in the lineup like every single day,

850
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: and he plays good defense. He made a couple of

851
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: really nice plays too, and really good defense second base.

852
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: All right, Cardinal Series. Time to go ahead and preview that.

853
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Yes, time to preview the Cardinal Series. Four game series

854
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: coming to City Field this weekend. Mark and I will

855
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: be in the ballpark on Thursday. If you guys will

856
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: be there, hit us up, love to say hello. But

857
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: some interesting pitching matchups from Cardinals team that is hitting

858
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: the piss out of the ball and not exactly having

859
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: the best results from all of the starting pitchers some

860
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: of the time. But so first game Thursday night seven

861
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: to ten David Piace versus Andre Polante. Friday night seven

862
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: to ten feels like a black Jersey game. Cod II

863
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Sanga versus Miles Mikolas. Saturday four o'clock Fox Game of

864
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the Week Clay Holmes versus Matthew Librator. And then Sunday

865
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: won for the bit and as off here Tyler mcgil

866
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: versus Sunny Gray.

867
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: All right, so I got some fun things to say,

868
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: Andre Polante still a ground ball king, Yes, ground ball king,

869
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: ground ball king. Good to know Mets hit a lot

870
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: of ground balls, it feels like, so that's gonna be annoying.

871
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Miles Michaelis thinks he's horrendous. Yes, King should literally score

872
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 2: fifteen runs on him if he pitches long enough, if

873
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: he if he's in the game for more than four innings,

874
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: the Mets should have nine runs. They like, the only

875
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: reason you should be past the fourth things because the

876
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: Cardinals are like, yeah, we need you to just throw

877
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: up one hundred pitches for us and get us as

878
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: far as you can.

879
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 5: Because he's terrible.

880
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Matthew Librator, I think he's only what one guy this

881
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: year he's been really really solid. I still don't I mean,

882
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: his stuff isn't anything particularly great. It looks like visually,

883
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, you can give me some of the

884
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: numbers underlying, but he's throwing strikes, which maybe that's good

885
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: for the Mets, because again, I've been talking about how

886
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 2: we're too passive. Maybe a guy like Librator who doesn't

887
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: throw balls, this could be a good thing. And then

888
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: you said the last one was Sonny Gray.

889
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good. Fantastic libratour is a Libertos looked really

890
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: good this year. He's kind of made the move to

891
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: just become a primary slider guy, and the fastballs jumped

892
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: ahead of it now recently, but the last start as

893
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: the slider was the primary. It's just a good type

894
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: pitch and it kind of like drags the whole rest

895
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: of his repertoire together because he has a fine curve ball,

896
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a big looper too that is

897
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: not as consistent. Fastball's bad, the sinker's bad. They're literally

898
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: bad pitches. The colors like, okay, it's average, but like

899
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: the only reason he's able to be major league pitchers

900
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: because he's going to mix ball, the fastball and the

901
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: sinker together. Otherwise it should be a guy that you

902
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: can hand. He also has a very strange change up.

903
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't really drop much at all, but it's just

904
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: like it's a good, like caveat to the rest of

905
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: the repertoire. I'm not I'm not like overwhelmed by Matthew

906
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Libertore again, like the slider is, it's a fantastic pitch,

907
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: you guys, gonnatch a little tight jarside and just be like, damn,

908
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: I can't stand this pitch, really annoying pitch because he's

909
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: very good locating too, just low in the zone like

910
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna just pop it right there, bang, like inside

911
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: to the right. He's the entire game and it's he's

912
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: he's fine, he's a good pictures. He's probably I don't

913
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: know if the counts is developing him. He's probably the

914
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: best pitcher of the Carlos have developed in like our lives. Yeah,

915
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: which is why it's like Jared Weaver Adam Wayne Wright. Yeah,

916
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: because Adam Wayne right, not bastard twenty.

917
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: Offensively, like you said, they are matching right now. Nolan

918
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: Eronado James.

919
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I told you guys, But Nolan Ranado, I told you guys,

920
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: Nolan Arna, there was there was still some fruit in

921
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: those loins. Because this guy has turned back the clock.

922
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: He looks amazing. The bats Beeaed is back up to

923
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: at least league average. He's this year. He's twice as

924
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: many strikeouts as he has walks. He already has two

925
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: home runs. He's smacking the ball over the park. I

926
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be twice too many walks

927
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: as strikeouts. Twice. May walks his strikeouts. Yees, yeah, dumblies

928
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: are said the wrong thing, but he's he's matching his guy.

929
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: Would have been a good their basement for the Mets

930
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: this year.

931
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: It'd be great.

932
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, definitely would have been. Brendan Donovan is a

933
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: really good baseball player. I would love to get Brendon

934
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 2: Donovan on the Mets. I think he's really really good

935
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: and he's been mashing. He's just a hit king. He's

936
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: hitting three eighty on the year. Lars Newpar looks to

937
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: finally kind of be figuring out the patience plus being

938
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: a good hitter because he's always had good back to

939
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: ball skills. He's having a really good start to the year.

940
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: Jordan Walker's cooled off a little bit, but he's still

941
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: got crazy power. Luke and Bacon Baker has some crazy

942
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: power as well. Alt Burlson's good ballplayer. Like this team,

943
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's necessarily anybody that you're watching where

944
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: you're like, these are one of the twenty twenty five

945
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: thirty best players.

946
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: In the league.

947
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: But the way that they're playing right now, this roster

948
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: up and down is playing good enough baseball that they're

949
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna win some games, are gonna lose some games.

950
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is this lineup is good. This

951
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: is not live to be trifled with. There's no doubt

952
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: that this Cardinals team can't hit. They put up tons

953
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: of hits and the top of the league in both

954
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: hits per game and runs per game. The terrible Yeah, Well, Contraras,

955
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: who should have been one of the best players in

956
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: the entire team, has been appstin to start the year.

957
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Victor Scott has had a hot start to the year

958
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: after last year he was tysically the worst hither in

959
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. He's a dynamic center fielder who's really,

960
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: really really fast. He's probably the fastest, maybe the second

961
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: or third fastest player in baseball pound for pound, beside

962
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Bobby Wood. I'd love to see the sprint speed on that.

963
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: But if he gets on, he's got his strikeouts in check.

964
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: He's hitting for not power, but like just enough to

965
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, get the ball out of the infield. He

966
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: has a home run this season. He is a ton

967
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: of fun. Also new Bar I think something has helped

968
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: him a lot. That could help a lot of other

969
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: players in the league. But some teams just are into

970
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: when some teams are not the carlso finally stopped platooning him.

971
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: It was weird that they never ever let him play

972
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: against lefties in the past, because his career splits are

973
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: basically the same. It's like a seven to fifty ops

974
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: against lefties and seven eighty ops against righties. But they

975
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: always took him out of lineup against lefties. This year,

976
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: lead off every single game like that's just simply their guy.

977
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: And I think it's been you useful for them, that

978
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: useful for him that he's been able to get that

979
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: consistency and catching a bit of a break. We mentioned

980
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras. He is not a catcher anymore. He's actually

981
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals first baseman these days, and that's because they

982
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: had a fantastic catching prospect. Ivan Herrera, who came into

983
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: last season, had eight hundred OPS, one of only four

984
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: catchers in the league to have an eight hundred OPS.

985
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Two of them were the Contreras brothers, the other one

986
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: was Jacob Staggers who played in coors Field, and then

987
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: it was Ivan Herrera. Herrera came out of the gate

988
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: this year and was insane. He had a three homer

989
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: what seven RBI game in Arizona that one game and

990
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: he broke a bon in his foot. He's gonna be

991
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: out like a month and a half, which stakes for

992
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: the It's just I mean, doesn't know it's good for

993
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the Mets, but stinks of Herrera, sinks for the Cardinals.

994
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: But that's just an annoying little caveat they have to

995
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: deal with. And then also another rookie to highlight. We've

996
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: been talking a lot about Luisa and Hellcunya, and there

997
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: was a rumor that when the Mets made that trade

998
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: for Acunya, there was another player they possibly could have

999
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: acquired from the Texas Rangers for Max Schurzer, and that

1000
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: was Thomas jac who's another infielder, second base from shortstop

1001
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He had been getting some second base

1002
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: reps for this team, get called up a few weeks ago,

1003
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: and now he is presumably their starting shortstop with Mason

1004
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Wynn heading to the ilt with back spasms, also after

1005
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: Mason win had a disappointing start to the season. So

1006
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: jac is a ballplayer. He hits the ball, puts it

1007
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: in play, really really good bats of ball ability.

1008
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: Amazing at that someone who cause again in twenty twenty

1009
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: draft that was so locked in because of COVID and

1010
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: there was literally no baseball. So I just did like

1011
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: three weeks of like watching six hours of draft guys

1012
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: every single day, and Thomas to jay Z was a guy.

1013
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: I was like, this, this guy's a ballplayer. Like I

1014
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: don't know what his ceiling is. I don't I'm never

1015
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: gonna be like he's gonna be one of the best

1016
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: middle infielders in the league. But I was like, he's

1017
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: gonna be a very valuable player. And when I thought

1018
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: he was getting trade insures or trade to us, I

1019
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Thomas to Jayz is like

1020
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: I love that move, Like that's great.

1021
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: He feels like he's going to be a cardinal for

1022
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 5: a very long time. You just kind of fits the moolt.

1023
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: This tremendous rists Like he's really good at just getting

1024
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: the ball out of the infield, like fighting the hole.

1025
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: And also since he got called back up two hardest

1026
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: balls his professional career a one hundred nine miles an hour.

1027
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: Victor Scott, by the way, second fastest player in Major

1028
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: League Baseball this season, right behind Bobby Wood Junior. You

1029
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: know who's fifth, Luis and Helocunye sw are our short

1030
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: king love our zesty wit Maryfield.

1031
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Five to three in the attitude. But I think that's all

1032
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: we got for the episode and the check on a Frankie. Yeah, Frankie,

1033
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: if you if you want to get on this one.

1034
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: He had to be fast so it might be busy

1035
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I can see that we got one.

1036
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: We go, we got Frankie.

1037
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 5: Will he be by the on the freeway again?

1038
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean possibly? I mean he has to get his

1039
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: voicemailed quickly for twenty seventy sentence. This might have been

1040
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: three minutes after the game.

1041
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: En.

1042
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear it. Here we go franky.

1043
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 6: Gentlemen, Frankie Peppers doing hen leaving this message right after

1044
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 6: the game.

1045
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 7: That was just disappointing.

1046
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 6: This whole series was a little bit of a letdown.

1047
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 6: I think these boys need to uh to get there.

1048
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 6: He's the baskets in a row before before these series

1049
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 6: coming up against the Cardinals. A lot of missed opportunities,

1050
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: too many missed opportunities every game, defensive miscues, failing to.

1051
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 7: Hit when they need, all those sorts of things. But

1052
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 7: it is what it is. I suppose. I hope you

1053
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 7: boys are doing well. I hope you boys, if you

1054
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 7: will celebrate Easter with your families, enjoying a holiday. I'm

1055
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 7: going to see some family. It's going to be wonderful

1056
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 7: on making making you know.

1057
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: What bull it is.

1058
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: I hope you're doing.

1059
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 7: Well and I will talk to you boys soon. Take care.

1060
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: Let's go Mets.

1061
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Let's go Mets. Shout out, Frankie, shout out, celebrating Easter.

1062
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Shout everybody out there, some orthodox Easter. Shout out, Mark

1063
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: there should everyone, pat me mis and pass over last weekend.

1064
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I think we did say it. Will celebrate that, but

1065
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: still pass over with everybody as well. Let's that's four

1066
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: games series against the Cardinals. Just fucking three, stick three.

1067
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I hate the Cardinals. I want to kill the Cardinals.

1068
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait to be in the ballpark on Thursday.

1069
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: I think, uh that, yeah, you know the game that

1070
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be mentioned. I think that was like

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Speaker 2: the first time I ever like actually like freaked out

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Speaker 2: and like raged over the Mets losing. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: hate the Cardinals as well. I fucking hate this team.

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Speaker 2: Let's beat them and we're better. We're better than this team.

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Speaker 2: Take three or four, no excuses back in Ope, Mets

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Speaker 2: love playing at home. They love that energy. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: everybody's out at the games. If you can be there again,

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Speaker 2: we'll be there Thursday night. Come say what's up to us.

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Speaker 2: We usually hang out in center field by like the

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Speaker 2: Core's light section over there have some beers before the game.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to meet some of you guys. I'll be

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Speaker 2: there Friday as well, so check us out. If not,

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Speaker 2: Podcast YouTube channel so you see the video versions of

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Speaker 2: these podcasts. If you're listening to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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Speaker 2: and TikTok. You can find more content there. You can

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Speaker 2: follow James on Twitter and YouTube Bat James Chiano and

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Speaker 2: I'm Giraffe neck Mark with the c Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for listening and watching.

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Speaker 5: I'll catch you all. We'll catch you all on the

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Speaker 5: next episode.

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Speaker 1: Peace out, guys, Go mets