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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Chargy and my co
Speaker 1: host this week are Scott Fish and Matt Harrison. Hello, gentlemen, Hello, Hi.
Speaker 1: Excited to get everybody ready for drafts and auctions. It's
Speaker 1: getting closer. Feeling heating up now. Normally this would have
Speaker 1: been the first weekend with preseason games. We don't have that.
Speaker 1: It's okay. I was hated doing those preseason recaps anyway,
Speaker 1: especially after the first game when you know, nothing happens.
Speaker 1: The starters played one this this third string running back
Speaker 1: really popped off in this game. Yeah, but that's not
Speaker 1: to say there's no news, and we'll be getting to
Speaker 1: a variety of news items from around the league very shortly. Also,
Speaker 1: we will over the course of the show, we will
Speaker 1: identify the true bell cow running backs, the guys you
Speaker 1: can count on to get a lot of touches. Who
Speaker 1: are they? And not just rehashing last year's bell cows
Speaker 1: because you already know that looking forward to this year's
Speaker 1: crop of running backs, we'll talk about the stink hole
Speaker 1: and beyond. What's the stinkhole? You might ask. The stinkhole
Speaker 1: is that spot in the first round where the obvious
Speaker 1: choices are gone and now you're up. What do you
Speaker 1: do with that spot? Where is the stinkhole this year?
Speaker 1: And what are you doing in that vicinity? We'll give
Speaker 1: you three tough questions and perhaps everybody's favorite segment all
Speaker 1: preseason over the course of this show, the reach around,
Speaker 1: We got a stinkhole, and reach around. We got a
Speaker 1: stinkhole and reach around. In the reach around will tell
Speaker 1: you the guys you should reach one round early, go
Speaker 1: get that's what you meant. That's the reach around. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about vacated targets. Scott Fish will help us identify
Speaker 1: the teams that have lost the most receiving targets and
Speaker 1: who could step into those spots. And then, at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, as we do every week, our
Speaker 1: sleepers three sleepers, one from each of us. These are
Speaker 1: guys that will significantly outperform their draft position. Al right, guys,
Speaker 1: let's go to the news. We begin with the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers Matt Jeremy Fowler of ESPN reported last weekend that
Speaker 1: left tackle Russell Okung is contemplating retirement due to COVID.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk says he's keeping his options open right now,
Speaker 1: so he could just quit. Oku is a fascinating guy.
Speaker 1: He's extremely smart, He's negotiated his own contracts. He's um,
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of interests outside of football. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me. Not That wouldn't be good for Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: or nor would it be good for Teddy Bridgewater. We
Speaker 1: think needs all the help he can get. So we'll
Speaker 1: be watching the status of the starting left tackle for
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, Scott Let's go to Las Vegas with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah so? Uh? Josh Josh Jacob says he's
Speaker 1: going to catch at least sixty passes this year, and
Speaker 1: John Gruden is reportedly wants to get him more involved.
Speaker 1: It was upset they didn't good Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: All the b reporters are saying they want him on
Speaker 1: the field of ton. John Garden's gonna try to win
Speaker 1: him Rookie of the Year this year. But there's something
Speaker 1: to be aware of. They want to get him really
Speaker 1: involved in the passing game. He is, Jacobs has top
Speaker 1: three or four. We'll talk about him and later. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be talking more about him later. Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: to the Texans. Why receiver Kenny still still hasn't passed
Speaker 1: his physical and looks like a cut candidate in Parks.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make seven million dollars guaranteed if he's on
Speaker 1: the rosters. Good chance he's gonna go and will help
Speaker 1: cement playing time for Will Fuller and Brandon Cooks and
Speaker 1: Reggie Cobb. Let's go to the Randall. Randall, not Reggie.
Speaker 1: Brangie cop played for Tampa a long times ago, showing
Speaker 1: my age. Let's go to the Washington football team. As
Speaker 1: of about twenty minutes after we recorded last week's show,
Speaker 1: Darius Geiss was released, opening up the running back competition
Speaker 1: to Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber, Antonio Gibson, Bryce Love and
Speaker 1: j D mckissic. J D mcsuck it. No, No, that's
Speaker 1: a terrible nickname. It's it's not even that clever. It's
Speaker 1: well earned, if you ask me, Scott. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the Jets. Uh Levian Bella has reportedly slimmed down like
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, and he's the lightest he's ben since high school.
Speaker 1: I know you hate when running backs, especially speedy ones
Speaker 1: like that, gain weight. What do you think of Levan
Speaker 1: Bell dropping weight? He's always been an agility guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that might be okay. I don't know, that
Speaker 1: might be all right. I'm willing to you know more,
Speaker 1: Oftentimes these guys end up gaining weight over the course
Speaker 1: of the season. So if he's starting a little light,
Speaker 1: well he took that one year off, that's where he
Speaker 1: gained the way. It's probably true. It's taken a year
Speaker 1: to to work that part off. The Colts Frank Reich
Speaker 1: says that Marlon Mack is his starting running back. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor will be in the mix, though I'm intrigued by
Speaker 1: a strategy of drafting both and starting both. Did you
Speaker 1: see his His line in that same thing, in that
Speaker 1: same interview was he'll play the hot hand and then
Speaker 1: they'll stay in the field. I hate that. That's that's
Speaker 1: why you have to do both. I either what both
Speaker 1: are neither hand. It's going to be Jonathan Taylor. Come on,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't you think so? All that said, um, it's
Speaker 1: Marlon Max's job to lose. By the you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football. Somebody's going to be
Speaker 1: successful there. It's a nice bast ball strategy. I think,
Speaker 1: taking both guys, you know, have to guess which one
Speaker 1: is gonna be when Jonathan Taylor hits the field, that's
Speaker 1: the problem. Probably let's go to the Let's go to
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ronald Jones is receiving pass catching
Speaker 1: tips from noted asked thrower Tom Brady, and Keyshawn Vaughn
Speaker 1: was officially activated off the COVID list to put some
Speaker 1: pressure on Road Joe Um. He's a Ronald Jones, a
Speaker 1: terrible pass bat blocking back, and that is how he
Speaker 1: can lose this job. That's how he will lose this
Speaker 1: And that's the that is the concern, and it's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm I'm I'm not playing. I'm not
Speaker 1: gambling on either of those guys because I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I can trust him that way. Scott, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos have news. Yeah, so beer reporters are expecting Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon to be the Week one starter, which is really
Speaker 1: no surprise after paying him sixteen million dollars. But what
Speaker 1: they are saying, they're expecting like a sixty thirty five
Speaker 1: or even seventy thirty split, which I found was surprising. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is I I think Philip people. People are assuming
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay is dead, and I am not ready. I
Speaker 1: am not ready to be that guy. The death of
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay has been greatly exaggerated. Really has Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: signed an extension that will keep him with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: through twy d twenty five. Great news for his dynasty
Speaker 1: owners because now you have the security of knowing it's
Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes throwing to him. Great news for Patrick
Speaker 1: mahomes dynasty and Empire owners as well. He gets to
Speaker 1: throw to Travis Kelsey. So winners all all around if
Speaker 1: you're invested in Travis Kelsey and your dynasty or Empire league. Matt,
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks have news. Just Chris Carson. He's not
Speaker 1: in Seahawks camp right now as he deals with a
Speaker 1: personal matter. And that's according to NFL Network. Um, it
Speaker 1: is not a toward love affair with me. No Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Although I like him, I like him on my fantasy team,
Speaker 1: let's hope. So Yeah, but I don't love him. Let's
Speaker 1: go to uh let's go to the Dolphins. Preston Williams
Speaker 1: is awesome. That's all. That's all. No, there's more. He's
Speaker 1: running fine and making one handed catches in the corner
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Jordan Howard. They're expecting to be
Speaker 1: the lead back, with Breda taking on almost all the
Speaker 1: passing down work and which the amount of targets available.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You'll get well. I think there'll be more
Speaker 1: on that later in this show, won't there. It's possible.
Speaker 1: Viking social media shows justin Jefferson making a variety of
Speaker 1: amazing catches, not in pads and not while he's covered
Speaker 1: by defenders for the most part, but nevertheless, good to
Speaker 1: see him making those catches. Let's go to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Matt greg Ward remember him? I do? He was a
Speaker 1: starting wide receiver for this team. Well, according to Doug Peterson,
Speaker 1: he's in the starting mix again. Right now, get greg
Speaker 1: Ward with the three pick off the board in your
Speaker 1: league and get a starting wide receiver for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It looks like all Sean Jeffrey's not
Speaker 1: going to start to start the season healthy, So you
Speaker 1: know it's it's Jalen reagor de Sean Jackson. Yeah, probably
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, and Greg Ward, let's go to
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Scott the Patriots son Lamar Miller this year
Speaker 1: this week to a one we one year deal. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a one week deal, and immediately placed him
Speaker 1: on the on the publist because he's got a torn
Speaker 1: a c L. He lands there with Sonny Michelle, who
Speaker 1: is dealing with not being good at football. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, as a reminder, the torn a c L was.
Speaker 1: It makes it sound like it just happened to this
Speaker 1: time last year when he walked into the offices in
Speaker 1: Foxboro signed the contract. Um a baffling move for the
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. You know you knew he was hurt?
Speaker 1: Did you check the physical? Did you did you know
Speaker 1: that he was going to start the season on the publis? Hey,
Speaker 1: did you wait till he was healthy? Bill Belichick's playing
Speaker 1: three D chess here? Who are we? Who are we'd argue?
Speaker 1: Alvin Camaris confirmed that he played last year with a
Speaker 1: tear in his knee, and he's also been reported to
Speaker 1: have dealing with Hianchael sprain and back issues last year
Speaker 1: rolls into this season fully healthy and it has a
Speaker 1: current ADP of four. So obviously a lot of people
Speaker 1: are willing to look past last year's trouble, but he has.
Speaker 1: He did confirm that he played with the tear in
Speaker 1: his knee this past week. Uh, he played with it
Speaker 1: last year. Confirmation was this week. Yes. Dallas Cowboys, Matt Uh.
Speaker 1: They signed Everson Griffin to help bolster their defensive line.
Speaker 1: Insert the Deck Prescott gift where he's doing some sort
Speaker 1: of well, well, I guess I'm not getting any money
Speaker 1: this year. I think he's gonna go Okay. He's making
Speaker 1: the average of the top five paid quarterbacks. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: Scott Titans, Uh, Titans. This week, coaches hyping, heaping a
Speaker 1: lot of praise on one John wu Smith. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't say John Smith. They were hyping and heaping John Smith,
Speaker 1: both of those things. Wanting to find creative ways to
Speaker 1: give him the ball because he can do so many things.
Speaker 1: He might be Derrick Henry's backup, by the way, he
Speaker 1: might be Derek Starter. Yeah, the way he can. He's
Speaker 1: great with the ball in the hands. He's had great runs,
Speaker 1: I mean, fifty seven yard rob last year. Yeah, and now,
Speaker 1: I don't even think that was his best Church put
Speaker 1: your pants back on a run outside the lines last
Speaker 1: year that broke a bunch of tackles and then went
Speaker 1: out of bounds. But yeah, he's had a couple of
Speaker 1: them telling you, Johnny Smith, he's already been a member
Speaker 1: of my sleeper segment. I think that was we our
Speaker 1: first show of this season was john Nu Smith identified
Speaker 1: as my my probably he's probably he's one of my
Speaker 1: two favorite sleepers for this year. M let's see what's next.
Speaker 1: Steelers of media reports say that Jalen Samuel's could be cut.
Speaker 1: There are simultaneous reports that Benny Snell looks vastly improved.
Speaker 1: Snow was a bitter disappointment last year with many opportunities
Speaker 1: to to take get more reps but never look good.
Speaker 1: They're saying physically he looks like a different back right now,
Speaker 1: and coaches have been uh and Mike Tomlin has said
Speaker 1: that he's mentally in a better spot in year two.
Speaker 1: The biggest year rookies their players always make is year one.
Speaker 1: Year two it's always the big lead, and for running backs,
Speaker 1: if they don't make the leap within two years, they're
Speaker 1: almost always dead. As you either got it within two
Speaker 1: years or you don't. But Snell is still there's still
Speaker 1: an opportunity here, and he's going undrafted in the vast
Speaker 1: majority of leagues. Let's go to the Giants. Matt Evan
Speaker 1: Engram back in camp after a very strong and aggressive
Speaker 1: rehab from frank surgery last year in his left foot.
Speaker 1: Scott the Bengals. John Ross left camp to take care
Speaker 1: of his son and wife, who both tested positive for
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and uh, that makes him a threat to
Speaker 1: sit out. Yeah, And it also makes him a threat
Speaker 1: being that he was already going to be fighting Tee
Speaker 1: Higgins and Audentaid for that third role, So there might
Speaker 1: be issues there, So maybe not, maybe hold off on
Speaker 1: drafting him late in the late rounds now George Kittle
Speaker 1: got an extension that will keep him with the team
Speaker 1: through five and it certainly Booy's the dynasty and empire
Speaker 1: value of Jimmy Garoppolo a lot. Also, media reports have
Speaker 1: first round pick Brandon Ayouk starting on the outside, and
Speaker 1: I believe that will happen in Week one. I believe
Speaker 1: he is NFL ready and the team needs him anyway.
Speaker 1: With Deebo Samuel's very unlikely to be available in Week one.
Speaker 1: The Falcons Matt Todd Gurley was walking with a limp
Speaker 1: yesterday man, and then ready it's starting man. Then Twitter
Speaker 1: spent most of Thursday just freaking out about Atlanta uh
Speaker 1: starting center Alex mac also limited in camp right now,
Speaker 1: with an explanation of veteran he's limited day off? Is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know he's old? I guess. Raven's offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Greg Roman says that training camp will be used to
Speaker 1: settle his running back depth chart, which currently features three
Speaker 1: or four quality backs, depending on whether or not you
Speaker 1: think Justice Hill's a quality back. Mark Ingram is the
Speaker 1: presumed starter there. When we come back to Fantasy Football Weekly,
Speaker 1: we will tell you who the bell cows are. These
Speaker 1: are the guys that the running backs in particular, who
Speaker 1: are going to get a lot of carries. Nothing more
Speaker 1: important than opportunity to the success of any fantasy player.
Speaker 1: Will tell you the guys who are gonna have the
Speaker 1: football in their hands the most. When we come back
Speaker 1: to Fantasy Football Weekly, Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly on
Speaker 1: the air. Paul char chi In, Matt Harrison, Scott Fish
Speaker 1: with you. Thank you for joining us. Your number six
Speaker 1: show number three. The segment is dedicated to the bell
Speaker 1: cow backs. These are the runners that are going to
Speaker 1: carry the pigskin. Many many times I have challenged Matt
Speaker 1: Harrison to project into his crystal ball about who the
Speaker 1: bell cow running backs will be this year. I need
Speaker 1: to get a crystal ball just just for segments like
Speaker 1: this so I can have the visual so you can
Speaker 1: see me looking into it. Yes, Um, so I can
Speaker 1: have to rub the crystal ball, right, don't you have to,
Speaker 1: like I think you hover your hands above it. You don't, Actually,
Speaker 1: you don't want fingerprints on the um. We're gonna divide
Speaker 1: these backs into four category. Those categories will be three bells,
Speaker 1: which are running backs projected for over three touches and
Speaker 1: little to know competition. All right, those are these are
Speaker 1: lot You're not you know, necessarily a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's not many runners in that category. Two bells are
Speaker 1: projected for about two fifty touches with some competition around them. Uh.
Speaker 1: The one bell backs are projected for over two hunderd touches,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of variants and competition for them.
Speaker 1: And then there's workhorses. They're kind of in split back
Speaker 1: fields where I think they're going to get more than half,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be definitely a split backfield. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then finally there's questionable backfields. We're not going to
Speaker 1: talk about New England, Miami, Washington and the Rams. Those
Speaker 1: backfields are really crazy. So let's start with the three
Speaker 1: bells Church. They didn't quiver. Alright, there's your three bells
Speaker 1: right there. Hold on, maybe this is okay, that's maybe better,
Speaker 1: So don't play that three slay bells. These are bell
Speaker 1: cow runners, not slay bell runners. Well, that kind of works.
Speaker 1: Leave the sligh bells for the work has to be
Speaker 1: slay bells. They can just be bells. You can, you don't.
Speaker 1: You could take a slagh bell off a sleigh and
Speaker 1: put it on. The belling needs have to be attached
Speaker 1: to a slagh. There's not a ton to discuss about
Speaker 1: these five backs. I think they're very clearly the bell
Speaker 1: cow in their backfield. That's Christian McCaffrey, whose only backup
Speaker 1: is Reggie Bonafone. Yeah, that's that's a clear case. Sae
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, who's not going to be pushed by Wayne
Speaker 1: Gallman or Dion Lewis Derrick Henry and Darnton Evans isn't
Speaker 1: pushing him. Joe Mixon I think is in there as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe is really going to push him
Speaker 1: much anymore. Yeah, there was mixing so good out of
Speaker 1: the backfield and catching the ball too. So there was
Speaker 1: a time that that Giovanni Ard looked like he was
Speaker 1: going to have a lengthy career as a second running
Speaker 1: back who would siphon off a lot of work from
Speaker 1: whoever the starter was. It just hasn't come around due
Speaker 1: to injury and inconsistency unfortunately, So maybe it's better, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is and Hugh Jackson and Freddie Kitchens that too.
Speaker 1: And then my final three bell cow uh Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: which I left him for last because I know Charge
Speaker 1: has some feelings about Ezekiel Elliott with Tony Pollard in Toe.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it and in the on air
Speaker 1: version of Fantasy Football Weekly, but we've hit on it
Speaker 1: in the the the off air podcast version of Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Weekly and months past. I I I worry that
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is so good that they just have to
Speaker 1: give him more reps. And part of it was I
Speaker 1: came out of last year feeling like just my eyes
Speaker 1: told me that Tony Pollard was really really good. And
Speaker 1: then I went back looked at it some more quantified
Speaker 1: at as I could looked at Pro Football Focus, the
Speaker 1: graded every run Tony Pollard in a much smaller sample
Speaker 1: size was graded out better in virtually everything everything than
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. And Ezekiel Elliott's still really good, and Elliott
Speaker 1: is really good. Pollard's really good too. And I think
Speaker 1: there's a sneaky case here where this goes from like
Speaker 1: eighty twenty Zeke to Pollard to sixty Pollard. That would
Speaker 1: be that would be a sizeable step down in production
Speaker 1: for Ezekiel Elliott, who has been like a three touch
Speaker 1: guy almost every year, right, so this would you know?
Speaker 1: This would turn Elliott into like more like a two
Speaker 1: fifty guy, and he's no longer you know, You're it's
Speaker 1: hard to be a first rounder on that anymore. So
Speaker 1: I've got and this is just a hunch. I have
Speaker 1: no no inside knowledge of this. I'm just looking at it.
Speaker 1: If I if I ran the Cowboys, and I should,
Speaker 1: I would I would be protecting my investment in Zeke
Speaker 1: by giving him us work and making sure that my
Speaker 1: other extremely talented running back down on the field a
Speaker 1: lot more. By the way, it's Marvin Lewis for then
Speaker 1: the same same stage. It's very understandable. We've all done
Speaker 1: it all right. Okay, let's move to the two bell
Speaker 1: backs Church. That's two bells, good job, two shakes right there. Um,
Speaker 1: So these guys, if everything breaks as expected, they're bell cowse.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is the first one on that list. His
Speaker 1: red flags are he's a possible hold out. Still, alex
Speaker 1: Madison is a very good backup. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any real holdout concern here, but go ahead, and Dalvin
Speaker 1: gets injured every year. That is that is if that's
Speaker 1: the biggest concern. Yeah, that is a fact. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I'll mention this. On Friday, Dalvin Cook was
Speaker 1: talking up Alexander Madison about how grad he is, so
Speaker 1: he seems to believe that his backup is pretty good too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next guy, Alvin Camara. His red flags are as you
Speaker 1: alluded to in an earlier segment. He was injured most
Speaker 1: of last year. He's never had more than two hundred
Speaker 1: carries in a season. But it is a contract here
Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk more about Alvin Camara a
Speaker 1: little bit later. Alright, uh, next guy, they don't. Latavius
Speaker 1: Murray's the only, you know, the only quality backup they've
Speaker 1: got there, and that Murray's just not the next back
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire laire. I want to move him up
Speaker 1: to a three bell category so much, but he's a
Speaker 1: rookie and there are some veteran backups including Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: is best buddy from college, DeAndre Washington, plus Darryl Williams
Speaker 1: and Darwin Thompson there who I think will get some
Speaker 1: touches here in some touches. I think you're doing the
Speaker 1: safe thing with Clyde Edwards Hilaire by having him in
Speaker 1: this second category. This feels about right, and he is
Speaker 1: still a rookie. We don't know what the usage is
Speaker 1: gonna be, but the upside for him is what Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt did it, and that could be back to you know,
Speaker 1: touch territory. By the way, the Chiefs lost ten touches
Speaker 1: inside the five. Mm hmm, just ten. Well that's that's fine, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: that team passes a lot inside the five. It's true,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't always run side but those are
Speaker 1: ten available touchdowns, easy touchdowns that could be going to
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards, Hilaire. Let's talk about Josh Jacobs for the
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. No big time red flags here, no
Speaker 1: clear backup between Jalen Rochard and Lynn Bowden. He did
Speaker 1: average twenty touches over his thirteen games last year, so
Speaker 1: he's by the way, he did most of that with
Speaker 1: a fractured shoulder playing through that. Yeah, he's he's closer
Speaker 1: to the three bell category. I'm surprised he's not a
Speaker 1: it's gonna get I like Josh Jacobs for this. I
Speaker 1: think he will end up closer to three al right.
Speaker 1: How about Nick Chubb the red flag Kareem Hunt, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. Otherwise, Chubb's great Chub, really really
Speaker 1: good back, and they will find time, they will find enough,
Speaker 1: They'll find enough ways to get him the ball and
Speaker 1: give it Stefanski. Will Stefanski fed Dalvid Cook like crazy.
Speaker 1: But I think I worry about cream Hunt eating into
Speaker 1: his totals. But he'll probably get to the two fifty
Speaker 1: range you're talking about. Let's talk Miles Sanders of the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Uh, the red flag here, is Philly's insistence
Speaker 1: under Doug Peterson to not use the workhorse back. Boston
Speaker 1: Scott and Corey Clement are both capable pass catching backs
Speaker 1: and should take some third down work and maybe more.
Speaker 1: But Miles Sanders looked really good over the tail end
Speaker 1: of last year. Fantastic. I was gonna say, can I
Speaker 1: play counter counter Devil's Advocate? But like four games at
Speaker 1: the end of last season with eight plus percent snaps? Okay,
Speaker 1: but all the rest of the depth except Boston Scott,
Speaker 1: and there was Boston Scots actually good. Boston Scott is good.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, I like him. I do too. Uh.
Speaker 1: And by the way, in in PPR leagues, Boston Scott
Speaker 1: should be getting drafted. He's going to be that bye
Speaker 1: week guy that can get you five receptions in fifty yards.
Speaker 1: That's he ought to he ought to be bi getting drafted.
Speaker 1: And mostly every time I hear about Boston Scott, I
Speaker 1: think about Michael Scott from the office, and that's like
Speaker 1: a character he does. Hey, I'm Boston Scott like prison Mike.
Speaker 1: In fairness to the other players being injured then last
Speaker 1: year they're gone. Now it's sharp, but they have fell
Speaker 1: a healthy guy no, No, it's Sanders Boston Scott. Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess there's that. I always think of Boston Market,
Speaker 1: but that's because I like food. It's Boston Market even
Speaker 1: still a thing. They think there's still a few around
Speaker 1: here and there used all the time. Did you would
Speaker 1: call me Boston Scott. Kenyan Drake of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: His red flag thirty five percent of his fantasy points
Speaker 1: last year came in two games. Two. Okay, that's not
Speaker 1: a usage scenario, right, Well, it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: using a little bit of maybe. Um. It's also a
Speaker 1: past happy offense with DeAndre Hopkins added to the mix,
Speaker 1: a running quarterback who should take away some of his
Speaker 1: rushing touches, and Chase Edmonds is actually a very good
Speaker 1: backup to him. I think he's he's good enough. He's
Speaker 1: good enough, good enough Bell, let's move on. He's kind
Speaker 1: of old, but he's getting lighter. The Jets are going
Speaker 1: to be bad and might be throwing all the time.
Speaker 1: That's another big red flag, lady on. Bell just might
Speaker 1: be out of the game script by halftime in most games. Plus,
Speaker 1: he's got an even older Frank Gore backing him up,
Speaker 1: and Frank Gore will steal touches because Frank always gets
Speaker 1: on the field. You say it every time. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: I'm sorry charged. Frank will be on the field. This
Speaker 1: is the year a team realizes that giving Frank carries
Speaker 1: at this stage waste Until he's on the couch, Frank
Speaker 1: care will get touch. We have. This is why Bell
Speaker 1: is gonna be on the field. I mean, who is it?
Speaker 1: Lamercle p Ryan and Frank Gore. That's it behind him.
Speaker 1: I got five more on the two bells. Chris Carson
Speaker 1: injury history. Carlos Hyde is the backup, but he's not
Speaker 1: much of a wherey Rashad Penny's still dealing with his
Speaker 1: injury from last year. Chris Carson over twenty touches per
Speaker 1: game last year. Leonard four net. New offensive coordinator Jake
Speaker 1: Gruden brought his favorite pass catcher, Chris Thompson with him
Speaker 1: and a lot of four nets value was wrapped into
Speaker 1: the pass catching which came out of nowhere last year.
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna go away just as quickly. Uh,
Speaker 1: David Johnson, Bill O'Brien will use him until he gets hurt.
Speaker 1: And he will get hurt because he was the return
Speaker 1: and the DeAndre Hopkins trade, and they gotta make it
Speaker 1: look like they got something. Todd Gurley will never be
Speaker 1: healthy again, but there's really no one behind him on
Speaker 1: the depth chart. UH Falcons were one of the more
Speaker 1: pass heavy teams in the red zone last year, and
Speaker 1: that could change with Todd Gurley though. And finally, one
Speaker 1: of my favorites, Austin Ekeler. I debated where to put him.
Speaker 1: He averaged twenty touches per game in games without Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon last year, but he's never had a bell cow workload,
Speaker 1: so I'm a little worried about him. Um, finally I
Speaker 1: got the one bell, guys, and there's only three now,
Speaker 1: that was three bells. Let's try it again. There we go.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. This is controversial, right, Aaron Jones. We've outlined
Speaker 1: it enough on this show. He had a historic success
Speaker 1: rate inside the five, but they drafted his replacement, who
Speaker 1: is bigger, stronger, more physical, can leap higher, and a
Speaker 1: goal line specialist in a J Dillon James Conner. It's
Speaker 1: the injuries for Connor that keep killing his seasons. I
Speaker 1: think he'll get the work if he can stay healthy,
Speaker 1: but he can't stay healthy and finally David Montgomery answered
Speaker 1: Brian Johnson getting all angry. He's really the only pure
Speaker 1: runner on rosters. Treat Cohen's more of a gadgety scattie
Speaker 1: guy than any thing, so he'll get the one bell category,
Speaker 1: even though his talent is very much in question. There
Speaker 1: are seven workhorse backs. We don't have time for them,
Speaker 1: but just sip through the list of names that you
Speaker 1: are calling. When you say workhorse, you mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna get more than half of the carries. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be close to half, Okay, So Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: over Philip Lindsay, Jonathan Taylor over, Marlon Mack, maybe Devin
Speaker 1: Singletarry over, Zack Moss, Ronald Jones over Keyshawn Vaughan, mark
Speaker 1: Ingram over JK. Dobbins, DeAndre Swift over carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: and Raheem Mostert over the rest of the crew in
Speaker 1: San Franz Alright, great job on the bell cow running backs.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we will spend a little bit
Speaker 1: of time in the stinkhole. What is the stinkhole? This
Speaker 1: is the draft position where the obvious choices are gone,
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Speaker 1: with more Fantasy Football Weekly. Ye, welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 1: I am Well Church and your co hosts are Matt
Speaker 1: Harrison and Scott Fish. It's time for a segment we
Speaker 1: call the Stinkhole and beyond sounder. For that that was
Speaker 1: the sounders. I mean just going down a register. It's
Speaker 1: not really a sounder. I don't think. Um, every year
Speaker 1: there's a spot in the first round where the obvious
Speaker 1: choices are gone and now you got really a plethora
Speaker 1: of available options to you. I want to first identify
Speaker 1: where the stink hole is this year, and then secondarily,
Speaker 1: let's figure out what we want to do with that
Speaker 1: spot in the spot immediately spots immediately after it. I
Speaker 1: got a fun idea, why not the count of three?
Speaker 1: We all say who we're going to pick first? Overall,
Speaker 1: that's can we identify which spot it is first? First? Overall. Well,
Speaker 1: for who would you pick first overall in the draft? One? Two, three?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that is all right? So it's Christian john
Speaker 1: Smith second pick? Is it Sae Kwon Barkley? For everybody? Say, kwan,
Speaker 1: I've I've I've toyed with having se Kwon number one? Okay,
Speaker 1: so one too? CMC and Barkley? Are you are you
Speaker 1: in agreement? Scott? Sure? Yeah, yeah, we all are. I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the universal consensus. I think ninety two
Speaker 1: of drafts. You're going with those two guys like Ezekiel
Speaker 1: at two out there, we should we try our number three?
Speaker 1: Well together. The whole point, that point of this now
Speaker 1: we found it is that yes, um, there's there is
Speaker 1: not a unanimous number three pick, or even very close
Speaker 1: to unanimous number three pick. I think now many people
Speaker 1: are going to Ezekiel Elliott, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: available options, and so I want to I want to
Speaker 1: first let's just let's just start here. Is Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: the right selection at number one? Yes? Probably? Yeah. Probably.
Speaker 1: Now I've been like you, I've been, I'm there, but
Speaker 1: like there's a part of me that says, man Barkley
Speaker 1: can really make some place, and and that offense could
Speaker 1: be really because they never had all those players on
Speaker 1: the field. They have a hideous schedule to open up.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Giants. Giants are very difficult first month.
Speaker 1: I'm I've been so close on this, but I've got
Speaker 1: McCaffrey number one. Now, if Russell kun does end up
Speaker 1: not playing left tackle, that might be enough to flip
Speaker 1: it for me where I would I would go with
Speaker 1: sake Kwon Barkley. The other side of it is there's
Speaker 1: a chance this Teddy Bridgewater led offense is bad, just
Speaker 1: bad that he can't stretch fields nearly enough. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the maybe maybe, I mean, I don't know. I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit nervous about that part of it. See the
Speaker 1: scenes offense was still good, but Teddy's numbers were terrible
Speaker 1: in those games last year. He threw a lot of short,
Speaker 1: catchable passes. Michael, Michael, Tom, It's that's right. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: we'll find out if that's gonna be the case or not?
Speaker 1: All right? Is say Kwon Barkley number two? Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Sacon Barkley is abou running back. If he's not number one,
Speaker 1: he's number two for you guys, right, all right. If
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley were on a different team, he'd be
Speaker 1: the number one back. He's you know, this is just
Speaker 1: unfortunately the Giants have been terrible offensive line, and you
Speaker 1: know I got hurt. Last year he was the number
Speaker 1: one player. He was the consensus number one player last year.
Speaker 1: Now he's the number two player. So we all agree
Speaker 1: that those are the correct number one and number two's
Speaker 1: all right. Now let's figure out what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: at pick number three. I want to begin with Scott.
Speaker 1: Who do you believe is the correct player to go
Speaker 1: into the stink hole at number three? Where you have
Speaker 1: to rely and now your own good judgment with your
Speaker 1: ass on the line. Because the obvious picks are over,
Speaker 1: You've now got everybody to draft to pick from except
Speaker 1: for two players. Who's the right guy in your mind?
Speaker 1: I'm probably leaning either Elliott or Derrick Henry. I hate
Speaker 1: to say it, but he's like seventh or eighth and ADP.
Speaker 1: But I really do consider him there. He's gotten his
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go with Henry. He's got his
Speaker 1: entire offensive line coming back, which I love when that
Speaker 1: happens for a running back. Just signed a new contract. Well,
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin's gone the Oh yeah, he went to Cleveland's right.
Speaker 1: I forgot that. I was thinking of Staffold and Lawan
Speaker 1: and and Jones, of his life coming back. Uh. My
Speaker 1: only concern is the four nine touches last year. But
Speaker 1: if there's anybody built to handle four hun nine touches
Speaker 1: and that come back, it's probably him. The lack of
Speaker 1: passing game work is is an issue, but he really
Speaker 1: doesn't have any competitions for any touches. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a touch of game guy, and uh, I
Speaker 1: think he's a safe pick there. All right, Matt, what
Speaker 1: would you do in the the stink hoole at pick
Speaker 1: number three? I'm so sad because Scott stole my thunder
Speaker 1: Because everybody's saying Zeke that, Zeke that at three. I'm
Speaker 1: sick of it. The best pound for pound running back
Speaker 1: in the league is Derrick Henry. He had about the
Speaker 1: same amount of carries as Zeke last year. He finished
Speaker 1: with two hundred more yards. Well, Henry wasn't used a
Speaker 1: ton in the passing game. He averaged eleven point four
Speaker 1: yards per catch, while Zekeo was only at seven point seven.
Speaker 1: Henry's backup is not scary. Who was the second rated
Speaker 1: running back in Fantasy points last year? It was Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: Why is it going off seventh or eighth right now?
Speaker 1: And if you go back to the tail end of
Speaker 1: don't forget that he went from eight to ten touches
Speaker 1: per game at the beginning of Thanks Matt Lafleur, to
Speaker 1: twenty carries per game. Over the last five games of
Speaker 1: that season, he scored eight times, an average a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five rushing yards per game in those five games.
Speaker 1: So in his last twenty three games as a pro,
Speaker 1: including the playoffs, he's averaging twenty one carries, a hundred
Speaker 1: and thirteen yards per game, and a score point one
Speaker 1: per game. He only had one game in which he
Speaker 1: didn't clear at least seventy yards or score. He's just
Speaker 1: a lock. Uh. I can't take Derrick Kenn you pick
Speaker 1: number three if I'm in a PPR league. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't catch enough. And what those receptions do is they
Speaker 1: mitigate the bad rushing day that all runners have, even
Speaker 1: the great ones Barry Sanders, they all had bad rushing days.
Speaker 1: Henry gets one years had bad games too. They the
Speaker 1: reception when you have that forty yard rushing day, you
Speaker 1: know you're that means probably the game script on upside
Speaker 1: down on your defense, and if you can catch, you're
Speaker 1: they're still gonna throw you the ball. So that's why
Speaker 1: I can't go Derrick Henry this high. And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: take down to Derrick Henry actually for me in the
Speaker 1: first six picks, because I'm in I'm in PPR leagues. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're you know, if you're not, you're in a
Speaker 1: half point PBR. You're in a standard scoring the great
Speaker 1: take Derrick Henry. I'm in a six point per touchdown league,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm taking Derrick Henry. Alvin Kamara is
Speaker 1: my choice. I do believe this is where he was
Speaker 1: going last year. Right here had a season with three
Speaker 1: different May Jr. Injuries that he gallantly played through and
Speaker 1: lied on the injury report about, and I believe he
Speaker 1: bounces right back to form here. I like we all
Speaker 1: want a part of the Saints offense is a very
Speaker 1: good offense. It's gonna go through him. He's gonna catch
Speaker 1: a ton of balls. We're gonna see the same game
Speaker 1: breaking skill that he showed two years ago but couldn't
Speaker 1: display last season. I am going with somebody closer to
Speaker 1: the consensus here with Alvin Kamara. By the way, with Kamara,
Speaker 1: he was averaging like a hundred and seventeen yards of
Speaker 1: game and five catches a game before the injury. That's
Speaker 1: that's in PPR. That's like seventeen points a game without
Speaker 1: any touchdowns. Yeah, great point. Yeah, and and the touchdowns
Speaker 1: were a big problem for people. He scored in two
Speaker 1: games last year. Now it's got to come back to
Speaker 1: the normalcy. Yeah. Before that, he had scored thirty one
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his first two years. Yeah, great point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know there, so he was on over a touchdown
Speaker 1: a game pace. Yea. And through his first two years,
Speaker 1: remember his Alvin commerce rookie year, he didn't even start
Speaker 1: doing anything until like game six. Wasn't even involved in
Speaker 1: the offense. All right, let's move on now. This segment
Speaker 1: is called the stinkhole and beyond. We've identified what we
Speaker 1: do in the stinkhole. What would you do with the
Speaker 1: two picks after that, Scott, What's what would you do
Speaker 1: with pick number four and pick number five? Well, we've
Speaker 1: kind of talked about it now because I picked four,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Kamara yes, Uh that I I like you.
Speaker 1: It's I mentioned the stats on what he's done in
Speaker 1: the first two years with touchdowns. He was hindered last year. Uh.
Speaker 1: A big point is I think the Stains are going
Speaker 1: to score a ton of points and I just want
Speaker 1: one of the if I'm not if I'm going running
Speaker 1: back heavy, if I'm going robust running back is my strategy,
Speaker 1: which I do every year. I know that you've hated
Speaker 1: that year's past with your do the opposite, but not
Speaker 1: this year. Anything goes and this year I came up
Speaker 1: with a name for the three five to what's the
Speaker 1: three five to the one we talked about last back
Speaker 1: the opposite a week ago. Oh, it's called the Gainesville.
Speaker 1: Now the Gainesville what's that? Gainesville, Florida's area code is
Speaker 1: three five too. Hey, that's asking a lot the listener
Speaker 1: to keep track that, I'll be honest. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing to pick four and five? Scott?
Speaker 1: I'm taking Kamara four and I am still taking Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott at five. It's just it feels like value there.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that gets that's averaged nearly two thousand
Speaker 1: yards or the year that he missed six games. He
Speaker 1: would have gotten about that every year, three plus touches
Speaker 1: every year. He's had a hundred plus catches of the
Speaker 1: last two years, which I do think comes down with
Speaker 1: the addition of Ceedee Lamb and and Tony Pollard coming on.
Speaker 1: But he'll still catch thirty or forty, you know. So
Speaker 1: I'm still taking Zeke at that. I think he's never
Speaker 1: missed a game from injury, not one in his career yet. No,
Speaker 1: that means a work horse. You know. Again from last
Speaker 1: people who may have missed it last segment, I'm speculating
Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard has a much bigger role, and I'm
Speaker 1: nervous about Zeke. But I'm on the outside of this,
Speaker 1: and I openly acknowledge. I'm I'm the only one who's
Speaker 1: not willing to just replay the last year and assume
Speaker 1: this year is going to be just like it. By
Speaker 1: the A in a in a draft just weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I took c h ahead of both And we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about him in just a minute. Uh, Matt, we've
Speaker 1: done the stinkhole pick three in the first round. Now
Speaker 1: it's picks four and five. Who are you taking in those?
Speaker 1: I wish we would have traded info beforehand, Scott, because
Speaker 1: we have the exact same order and the exact same guys.
Speaker 1: I have Camara at four and Zeke at five. Um.
Speaker 1: Camara has never had a three hundred touch season, never
Speaker 1: if he and he may not if he gets there.
Speaker 1: He's a great candidate for fifteen plus touchdowns because he
Speaker 1: had eighteen in his rookie year and thirteen uh the
Speaker 1: year before the year after that. So he's a great
Speaker 1: candidate for huge numbers if he can just get to
Speaker 1: the three d touch mark. Not three hundred carries three
Speaker 1: hundred touches and and that's it's a barrier. He's got
Speaker 1: like two EIGHTIESO, so it's not a huge barrier for
Speaker 1: him to overcome. And then Zeke, as Scott said, he's
Speaker 1: just super consistent. Uh, he will likely finish in the
Speaker 1: top eight. He's durable. Uh. The offense is good. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna put up yards and ten touchdowns easy on
Speaker 1: the ground. All right, Well, I will now go with
Speaker 1: my pick four and my pick five, stinkholes. Pick three.
Speaker 1: We've given our guys for that. Um. Who wants to
Speaker 1: have the starting running back for the Chiefs? I do.
Speaker 1: I'd like to have the starting running back for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I want to have it. I want to have the
Speaker 1: starting running back for an offense that's going to score,
Speaker 1: that has last year scored ten more points than the
Speaker 1: average offense. I would like to have a part of that.
Speaker 1: I want the guy that's going to get the ball
Speaker 1: at the three yard line. I would like Clyde Edwards
Speaker 1: Hilaire with my pick number four, if you don't mind.
Speaker 1: And by the way, he's really good. I mean it's
Speaker 1: not just about the fact that he's the Chiefs starting
Speaker 1: running back. He's also a really good running back. And
Speaker 1: when you put a really good running back on a
Speaker 1: team that is almost indefensible in the passing game, man,
Speaker 1: the yards are gonna come easy to Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
Speaker 1: Can I speak to someone on as well. A lot
Speaker 1: of people talk about his pass pro that it's not great, etcetera.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs asked they're running backs to pass protect twelve
Speaker 1: percent of the time last year. That's fifth lowest in
Speaker 1: the league. They're not going to ask him to do
Speaker 1: that a bunch. He doesn't need to be that. No,
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's very He's obviously diminutive, in
Speaker 1: at least in height, although he's strong for his size.
Speaker 1: Marie Jones Drew has always been my comparative player to him,
Speaker 1: and Jones Drew has built much the same way. Um
Speaker 1: all right, now pick number five. Matt tell listeners about
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler for anybody who missed the show last week. Um,
Speaker 1: welly average is about seven yards per touch. Yes, every
Speaker 1: time he touches the ball seven yards. Yes. The problem
Speaker 1: is that he only got two undertouches last year, but
Speaker 1: now Melvin Gordon's gone. Those are not vacated targets but
Speaker 1: vacated touches, and he should jump into close to the
Speaker 1: three touch category. If he does that, he's well ahead
Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey's numbers from last year. Yes, and that's uh.
Speaker 1: I think the upside is there. He's strong enough to
Speaker 1: run inside to him to pitch your side. He's uh.
Speaker 1: He is quietly one of the most talented running backs
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so I'm a big fan. Now, last
Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about is we examine this
Speaker 1: first round the stink hole and beyond where in your
Speaker 1: mind Scott is the sweet spot in round one? If
Speaker 1: you could pick a draft spot in round one. Do
Speaker 1: you want to be at the beginning for one of
Speaker 1: the first two guys we talked about, or do you
Speaker 1: want to be in the middle or do you want
Speaker 1: to be in the end? First off, the middle sucks
Speaker 1: seven and eight or terrible eight. Eight is my least
Speaker 1: favorite spot this year out of all the draft. Eight
Speaker 1: is just terrible. Uh. This is a question versus data
Speaker 1: versus my heart. Like data will tell you the one
Speaker 1: on one is the best because twenty five in a
Speaker 1: deep lee eep here like this, you're getting McCaffrey and
Speaker 1: you're getting two really good players. You're the first team
Speaker 1: to three players. But I'm I'm I am a self
Speaker 1: proclaimed forever back, a hoolic. I need my running backs,
Speaker 1: so I want to be at the tail end. And
Speaker 1: I just I just did a draft with mad that
Speaker 1: I got, Like, who who did I get? I got
Speaker 1: Ekela and Josh Jacobs at the back corner. I'm like,
Speaker 1: give me that all day long. I will start my
Speaker 1: team with that. So I'm going back corner. I don't
Speaker 1: blame him. Matt. Where in the first round do you
Speaker 1: think is the sweet spot? Why do you keep going
Speaker 1: to Scott first? Better? Because he just says all the
Speaker 1: stuff that I want to say. Um. I just recently
Speaker 1: did a Best Ball draft where I was picked number eleven,
Speaker 1: and to pick number eleven, I got Derrick Henry and
Speaker 1: then on the turn I got Austin Ekeler and I
Speaker 1: felt absolutely thrilled about it. I I have theact same
Speaker 1: stuff in my notes. I I hate being in the middle.
Speaker 1: I want to be at the back end where I
Speaker 1: get a combination of Derrick Henry, Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams,
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, Austin Alert, Josh Jacob. Joe Mixon is
Speaker 1: in there a lot too. I'm not a mixing your
Speaker 1: left Joe mixing. You're gonna get two great players that
Speaker 1: you cannot you can't execute from the middle or front
Speaker 1: part of of the first round. When we come back,
Speaker 1: our number two begins with three tough questions. We will
Speaker 1: challenge the brain power of my co host when we
Speaker 1: come back to Fantasy Football Weekly. Do welcome back to
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly and pult charge from Guillotine Leagues dot com.
Speaker 1: Scott Fish with me as well and Matt Harrison. Scott
Speaker 1: and then Matt Harrison at come on, we were now
Speaker 1: Glancy Football Weekly, starring Paul Charching and Scott Fish, also
Speaker 1: with Matt Harrison. Thank you. This is a segment we
Speaker 1: called three Tough Questions. We encourage you to play along.
Speaker 1: I will ask three difficult questions my co host. They
Speaker 1: will try to find the right answers. See if you
Speaker 1: can go three and oh, tough question number one. Last year,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup took a big jump forward and then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys drafted Ceedee Lamb. How worried should a Marie Cooper
Speaker 1: owners be not at all concerned, somewhat concerned, or bowl
Speaker 1: looseningly concerned. Let's begin with Scott Fish. I thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna go first. Scott gets to go first. He's
Speaker 1: got all the good data. Nice, alright, I'm assuming so alright. So, So,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup was already kind of better than than Amary Cop.
Speaker 1: He was down the stretch posting better fantasy numbers in
Speaker 1: six of the final eight games. Land was my wide
Speaker 1: receiver one coming out. There's been reports of him making
Speaker 1: some unreal, unreal catches. Already they have a hundred vacated targets.
Speaker 1: Granted that's a lot of Witten. Yeah, So Jarwin is
Speaker 1: gonna get some. Lamb will get some. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Cooper or Gallup take much of a target hit at all.
Speaker 1: I think Jackson for a prime year. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say somewhat concerned because he's a MARII Cooper and he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of big games and a bunch
Speaker 1: of nothing games. So you always have to be somewhat
Speaker 1: concerned for a Mari Cooper. All right, well done, Scott.
Speaker 1: I knew you could handle it. Matt. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the wrong answer here. Uh, not at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about a Mark Cooper at all, because
Speaker 1: Jerry don't pay a hundred million dollars to a Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper if Jerry ain't gonna mandate that Amari Cooper gets
Speaker 1: the ball. He just turned twenty six, He's entering his
Speaker 1: sixth year in the league. But the thing I love
Speaker 1: about Cooper is he gets the job done efficiently. He
Speaker 1: only had a hundred and nineteen targets last year, that
Speaker 1: was the most in the league. Still, he logged yards
Speaker 1: and had eight touchdowns. And to put that into perspective,
Speaker 1: he finished as the seventh best fantasy receiver with the
Speaker 1: eighteenth most targets. He's efficient, and while Lamb and Gallup
Speaker 1: and Jarwin are gonna get targets, I don't see a
Speaker 1: big drop from one nineteen because that's not a huge
Speaker 1: obscle overcome. He can get seven half targets per game
Speaker 1: fairly easily, so I'm not really worried. Plus, what's good
Speaker 1: for the offense is good for the offense, and that's
Speaker 1: Seedee Lamb, that's good for the offense. Um, well quoted,
Speaker 1: and you're right about that. Things that help any player,
Speaker 1: and if anything, it helps the offense, helps everybody on
Speaker 1: the offense. Oh what is it? Rising tides raise all ships? Right, Um,
Speaker 1: that is true, and that is why you do not
Speaker 1: have to have any bowel loosening levels of concern over
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper. But you should have. I'm concerned, and
Speaker 1: of course I got it's for the reasons that Scott
Speaker 1: artfully demonstrate. At moments ago. People do not realize how
Speaker 1: close Gallop was the Cooper last year. By the way,
Speaker 1: you talked about the second half of the season when
Speaker 1: Gallup was statistically better, but even on the full season,
Speaker 1: get how close these do were. They were separated by
Speaker 1: six targets. Thirteen catches, only eighty two yards and two scores.
Speaker 1: Gallup and Cooper were practically the same guy last year,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna Gallop gave you the consistency that Cooper didn't.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say half of Cooper's points came in
Speaker 1: four games. That is actually pretty close to right. You know,
Speaker 1: with Cooper you get the huge variance of output. His
Speaker 1: nine best games were great and his other seven games.
Speaker 1: In Cooper's bad seven games, he averaged two catches, thirty
Speaker 1: two yards and did not score. So he's like a
Speaker 1: healthy will Fuller. He has a healthy will Fuller. It's
Speaker 1: a disaster level will put for him. So roll all
Speaker 1: those things together, you should be somewhat concerned. All right,
Speaker 1: Now we go to question number two. Last year, Washington
Speaker 1: receiver Terry McLaurin got robbed of the Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year award. This year, he'll try to improve despite massive
Speaker 1: question marks at quarterback. Will he a be about the
Speaker 1: same as last year? Be make a modest gain? Or
Speaker 1: see will Terry McLaren make a big jump? Scott, Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait, wait, you never go to the same guy.
Speaker 1: This is right to go again, because he got the
Speaker 1: first how it goes now, I guess I guess Matt's
Speaker 1: gonna be talking second all season. Then alright, uh, Terry
Speaker 1: McLaren um, So he as you mentioned, he was robbed
Speaker 1: at the Rookie of the Year or yes he was?
Speaker 1: He just yeah, he was. He was really really good
Speaker 1: last year. There's there's a ton of targets missing from
Speaker 1: that that passing game. A lot of them do tend
Speaker 1: to be running back targets, but there's still a bunch
Speaker 1: of targets that that are possible. My only problem and
Speaker 1: nobody came in Antonio Gandy Golden, uh is the only
Speaker 1: guy that came came in. So you think he could
Speaker 1: make a huge jump because he only had ninety three targets.
Speaker 1: But I think that offense is not going to be good.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be behind. So that's gonna help a little.
Speaker 1: But but I think Gibson and Gandy Golden are going
Speaker 1: to take up what was lost. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: make a jump, but I don't think it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 1: That's said like, he's one of those guys that if
Speaker 1: everything hits right, he could be a wide receiver one
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, I love his game
Speaker 1: of play. But I'm going with I'm going to I
Speaker 1: think the safe play is just a modest improvement. Maybe
Speaker 1: twenty extra targets, twenty fifteen extra catches, whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can improve on that, Matt, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a huge jump. This is gonna be a huge tell. Um.
Speaker 1: He had of the target share last year and then
Speaker 1: everybody left. There's no good players around. He might get
Speaker 1: of the target share. They're they're all gone. Are you
Speaker 1: afraid of Steven Sims or Antonio Gandy golden stealing targets
Speaker 1: for Terry McClaren, Of course you do. Are you afraid
Speaker 1: of Logan Thomas as the top tight end? No, you're not.
Speaker 1: Plus Scott Turner is the offensive coordinator. There, Scott Turner's
Speaker 1: offenses as his as an offensive coordinator, throw sixty percent
Speaker 1: of the time, and they're going to be behind a
Speaker 1: lot Terry mccon Terry McLaren, it's gonna make a huge jump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. Um, he's too good to level
Speaker 1: out already, so we'll just take that off the board.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna level Matt, You're wrong. Modest improvement even
Speaker 1: with the dubious prospects of Dwayne Haskins. McLaren's just too
Speaker 1: talented to think that he doesn't get better. He will
Speaker 1: get better. And Haskins had those two really good games
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and I you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's way too small a sample size to really
Speaker 1: dwell on. But I'll note that McLaren went off in
Speaker 1: those two games. There are great games from the window
Speaker 1: Ohio standing together, and the five catches hundred thirty yards
Speaker 1: in one touchdown in one game, seven catches eighty six
Speaker 1: yards in the other game. Even if Haskins doesn't pan out,
Speaker 1: this might be the deepest set of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: If if Alex Smith, If Alex Smith is able to rebound,
Speaker 1: because Kyle Allen was serviceable last year as as a backup,
Speaker 1: he'd be good. And then you may as well have
Speaker 1: Alex Smith at some point over the course of the season.
Speaker 1: He might be He might be a plausible starter. Terry
Speaker 1: McLaren will end up making a modest improvement. Tough question
Speaker 1: number three. Deshaun Watson's average draft position is Round four
Speaker 1: as the fifth quarterback off the board, but his starting
Speaker 1: receivers rank as why and by rank I mean average
Speaker 1: draft position wide receiver thirty four, wide receiver thirty seven,
Speaker 1: and his top tight end is tight end forty. There're
Speaker 1: only thirty two teams in the league. I'll remind listeners
Speaker 1: that makes his receiving group among the lowest ranked in
Speaker 1: the league by average draft position. Now, finally to the
Speaker 1: question after this long preamble, which is more accurate Watson's
Speaker 1: lofty average draft position or his receivers lower draft position.
Speaker 1: We begin with Scott Fishing. I'm going over here, and
Speaker 1: I thought you I thought you were gonna flip at
Speaker 1: that time, not until I got one. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: with Watson's ADP. We've seen qbs have solid seasons in
Speaker 1: the past, ridding the ball around and not having like
Speaker 1: guys be just extreme studs, elite level talents. I think
Speaker 1: a big reason of the lower ADPs in the wide
Speaker 1: receivers is injury history. They can very easily if they
Speaker 1: just stay healthy, very easily. I would do those a DPS.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the tight end there, tight top tight end,
Speaker 1: his tight end forty. Well, there are two tight ends.
Speaker 1: Again spreading it out because you're a good quarterback, there
Speaker 1: are two tight ends combined for nearly eight hundred yards
Speaker 1: and nine touchdowns last year nine times tight end six.
Speaker 1: That would have been tight ends six nine times. So
Speaker 1: even even though they have a tight end forty as
Speaker 1: their top ranking tight end, he spread it around to
Speaker 1: his tight ends and made you know, had the numbers there.
Speaker 1: It's I I think Watson's ADP is fine, and I
Speaker 1: think the other's ADP is more injury based. And because
Speaker 1: he spreads it around a little, all right, is Watson's
Speaker 1: average draft position correct his lofty average traft position or
Speaker 1: his receiver's diminished a average draft position more correct? Let's
Speaker 1: try this here. I want to say exactly what Scott said.
Speaker 1: How about that? All right? Um, I'll add on you
Speaker 1: to uh, you want to just stay fuller Fuller, Cooks,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills. That's about as deep as four
Speaker 1: wide receivers as anybody has in the league. There he
Speaker 1: goes still place, sure, but even with Kiki Cutie in
Speaker 1: and his wide receiver four, that's a really deep wide
Speaker 1: receiver depth chart right there. And when you don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to be the best wide receiver, you take
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and I think the quarterback is going to
Speaker 1: do well. Nobody even mentioned the fact that he runs.
Speaker 1: He does, He's a running quarterback, and much of his
Speaker 1: fantasy relevance he is tied to his running and we
Speaker 1: don't even care his receivers are at that point. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I mean there's there's that as well. And the
Speaker 1: correct answer is Scott's answer Watson's average draft position? Did
Speaker 1: I did I get it right? To then? What did
Speaker 1: you say? Again? I said whatever Scott said? Oh? Then
Speaker 1: then no, Scott got it right. Our draft position is correct,
Speaker 1: and frankly, I think we're probably underdrafting his receivers a
Speaker 1: little bit as well. They should probably go higher. You
Speaker 1: can make a good case for which one. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be a good argument who should be higher?
Speaker 1: Will Fuller with the upside and everything else or Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks with more of the consistency but maybe not the
Speaker 1: same ceiling that Will Fullers. Fuller has scored fourteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: in his twenty one games with Watson, which is crazy. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's that double digit fantasy points in two thirds
Speaker 1: of the games too. Well, if he's scored that much
Speaker 1: of now you're just showing off, do you guys believe
Speaker 1: is a sub topic. Do you believe there's such a
Speaker 1: thing as injury prone or is it just that bad
Speaker 1: luck happens to strike, you know, but by by just
Speaker 1: odds are somebody's gonna hit bad luck repeatedly. I don't
Speaker 1: really believe an injury prone too much, but when you
Speaker 1: have soft tissue injuries, you tend to get them more
Speaker 1: and more frequently. Soft tissues a problem. Like ask Leonard
Speaker 1: soft tissue for net as. I like to call him
Speaker 1: as a guy who severely sprained his ankle playing basketball
Speaker 1: in high school. Very relevant and and it never has
Speaker 1: fully healed all the way I turn it all the time,
Speaker 1: and it's still bad. Yeah, injury history is a thing.
Speaker 1: The turned ankle stings. It's smarts for sure. When we
Speaker 1: come back, you've been waiting for it all preseason. It's
Speaker 1: time for the reach around. Don't be a slave to
Speaker 1: average draft position. We're going to tell you the players
Speaker 1: that you will want to reach a round early on.
Speaker 1: Scott will tell you, will give you the right answer
Speaker 1: on boa feature around. When we come back to Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Weekly, and I'll mention if you want to try
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Speaker 1: Fball Weekly returns Bult Georgie in, Scott Fish and Matt
Speaker 1: Harrison with you. This is, in the years of many
Speaker 1: the most popular preseason segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. We
Speaker 1: do it every year. It's called to reach around the premise. Here,
Speaker 1: we're going to identify a player in each of the
Speaker 1: first eleven rounds that you should take one round earlier
Speaker 1: than when they normally go. So the example would be
Speaker 1: which of the second rounders should be taken in the
Speaker 1: first round. We'll go through each of our designated people
Speaker 1: that doesn't. You choose whever you want well, and we'll
Speaker 1: see who we agree on who we don't, and you
Speaker 1: can play along as well. And I want to say
Speaker 1: broadly to start this off, many fantasy owners, especially polished
Speaker 1: ones that are doing a lot of pre drafts and
Speaker 1: they really know their average draft position, tend to be
Speaker 1: a slave of average draft position and then tend to
Speaker 1: feel like, Oh, I really like this guy, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna wait and you know at him later because
Speaker 1: average draft position says, this guy's gonna go next round. Man,
Speaker 1: just go get your guys at the moment kickoff happens
Speaker 1: in week one. Nobody cares about the average draft position
Speaker 1: where you got guys. All the matters is whether or
Speaker 1: not you've got the guys you want. Go get the
Speaker 1: guys you want. Don't worry about somebody going you could
Speaker 1: add them next round. Just go get your guys, all right.
Speaker 1: Beginning now, let's go with round one. Who would you
Speaker 1: take from? Who would you take in round one that
Speaker 1: would normally go? In round two? We begin with it's
Speaker 1: got what. I was certain you'd go to Matt that time,
Speaker 1: Absolutely certain. Since I know what Matt is gonna say,
Speaker 1: I should go No, but I'm not going to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Josh Jacobs. I I absolutely love Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs this year. I think if he if he has
Speaker 1: any injuries that are less than a fractured shoulder, he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna play sixteen games. Uh. There's been lots of
Speaker 1: word about him getting heavily involved in the passing game.
Speaker 1: I just think he's going to be one of those
Speaker 1: guys that gets you three plus touches. All right, Matt,
Speaker 1: Who should people take in round one that would normally
Speaker 1: go in around two? I got Austin Ekeler. And if
Speaker 1: you want to hear more about Austin Ekeler, go to
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or your favorite podcast app. Go to
Speaker 1: last week's episode of Fantasy Football Weekly and find the
Speaker 1: peacock off and I will outline it for you in
Speaker 1: great detail. Or just listen to two segments ago when
Speaker 1: I was talking about how I take Austin Ekeler in
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round. Yeah, but mine was
Speaker 1: at her It was better, honestly last year. A reminder.
Speaker 1: Last year in those games, though Melvin Gordon, Austin Ekeler
Speaker 1: was the highest scoring running back in football in PPR,
Speaker 1: I have reason to believe he won't be there this
Speaker 1: year either, Melvin Gordon. That is, I have reason to
Speaker 1: believe you are correct. All right, let's go to the
Speaker 1: next round. Who would you take in round two that
Speaker 1: normally goes in round three? Fish? Do you have to
Speaker 1: ask if you look at that list, do you even
Speaker 1: have to ask? I'm asking Kenny Golladay. Kenny Golladay, It's
Speaker 1: always gonna be Nook of the North there, baby tron
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay. You know what bugs me about Kenny Golladay.
Speaker 1: He has like just like a junior nickname off of
Speaker 1: everybody else, Like give him his own nickname. Come on, right,
Speaker 1: can't you have his own name? This is a good point.
Speaker 1: This isn't really all work on it, all right, Kenny
Speaker 1: g How about that? That's kind of taken And honestly,
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay is the opposite of droning soft fusion jazz.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's he's very smooth when he plays,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of improvisation, one of the one
Speaker 1: of the best in the league of deep ball catches,
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league at contested catches.
Speaker 1: And if matthe Matthew Stafford gets back and his excuse me,
Speaker 1: if his back is healthy and he plays a full season,
Speaker 1: he gets back to that thirty touchdown form. Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: could very, very easily crack into that top five or
Speaker 1: six wide receivers as here all right, Matt who are
Speaker 1: you taking in round two? That would normally go in
Speaker 1: round three. I don't know why he's going in round three,
Speaker 1: but it's Mike Evans of the Tampa Bay Bucks over
Speaker 1: a thousand yards in every year of his career, eight
Speaker 1: or more touchdowns and three of his last four seasons.
Speaker 1: Three top ten finishes amongst wide receivers in the last
Speaker 1: four years, and he's never been worse than twenty four
Speaker 1: in his career in a PPR league. So Mike Evans
Speaker 1: is a pretty nice wide receiver town your roster. My
Speaker 1: reach around in round two is Chris Carson, Seattle running back.
Speaker 1: He was running back nine last year in PPR, scoring
Speaker 1: nine and he has almost no competition for the job.
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde is on his fourth team in three years.
Speaker 1: And remember over the last three years, Seattle has had
Speaker 1: the most handoffs two running backs. There's no downside to
Speaker 1: Chris Carson. He belongs in the second round. Let's go
Speaker 1: to round three. Scott, which round four player will you take?
Speaker 1: In round three? This is really this was a really,
Speaker 1: really tough one for me because Calvin Ridley there's a
Speaker 1: lot of targets available and he has primed for a breakout.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to do something that I usually do.
Speaker 1: I take tight ends early in leagues. I do. I
Speaker 1: load up on running backs in tight end and I'm
Speaker 1: the guy that grabs the tight end early because I
Speaker 1: want to stud tight end and Mark Andrews with Hayden
Speaker 1: Hurst leaving. Mark Andrews is in that clear top three
Speaker 1: for me now, and I'm I'm taking him there. I
Speaker 1: I think he's he's primed to move into that upper
Speaker 1: echelon for years to come. All right. I've got a J.
Speaker 1: Brown um fourth in the league last year with five
Speaker 1: yard outing. He tied for ninth with eight receiving touchdowns,
Speaker 1: had the most long ball touchdowns of forty plus yards
Speaker 1: in the league with four, just over twenty yards perception.
Speaker 1: And he did all of that, not only eighty four
Speaker 1: targets and fifty two catches. In year two. You have
Speaker 1: to think he cracks at least a hundred targets, but
Speaker 1: probably a lot more. Probably a J. Brown is a
Speaker 1: guy that'll get whatever. John. I've done a ton of
Speaker 1: draps and I've not seen a J. Brown get to
Speaker 1: the fourth So this never, this is a good call.
Speaker 1: He really should be a third rounder. I've got Cooper
Speaker 1: cup ranked as my wide receiver. I think it is
Speaker 1: wide receiver six seven. He is my wide receiver seven,
Speaker 1: and I'm getting him in the third round. He finished
Speaker 1: his wide receiver three last year Cooper Cup did, yet
Speaker 1: nobody wants him. Brandon Cooks is gone, so you know
Speaker 1: the volume isn't gonna go down any any farther than that.
Speaker 1: He was the second most wide receiver targeted in the
Speaker 1: red zone last year, and the year before he was
Speaker 1: white up the there. And it's a second year off
Speaker 1: a c L. There are a lot of players who
Speaker 1: have that that year after the first year back from
Speaker 1: a c L are better and more explosive. He scored
Speaker 1: in nine different games last year. He only had two
Speaker 1: bad clunker games all of last season. Two. That's it,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is my round three reach around? That Round
Speaker 1: four is really good. It's loaded. Last last I said,
Speaker 1: trade out trader picks from first and second round. Just
Speaker 1: keep trading down in stockpile third and fourth rounders because
Speaker 1: of this very reason. All right, let's go to round
Speaker 1: at number four. Which fifth rounder would you take in
Speaker 1: the reach around? Scott Scott Again, we've talked about him
Speaker 1: in bunch and I think he takes the jump forward
Speaker 1: to be like a top eighteen or so wide receiver.
Speaker 1: It's it's Terry mclaarin going in the fifth. There are
Speaker 1: a couple of guys in this round d J chart
Speaker 1: as well that I think can make that jump in
Speaker 1: top eighteen, top twenty four wide receivers, and you're getting
Speaker 1: them as your wide receiver. To um, I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that's a good spot for him. Okay, Matt
Speaker 1: t even what are and off discussed already twice in
Speaker 1: this episode, we can move on. I'm taking Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: as my reach around in round four. Remember last year
Speaker 1: when he came back from suspension, he was running back fifteen.
Speaker 1: Right now he's going off the board as running back.
Speaker 1: Why everybody believes Cleveland's gonna be better this year than
Speaker 1: they were last year. So if you are of the
Speaker 1: same mindset I am. Kareem Hunt makes a ton of
Speaker 1: sense as a quick reset to what we're doing. This
Speaker 1: is the reach around we're talking about players we would
Speaker 1: take one round earlier than their their typical draft position
Speaker 1: charge now round five. By the way, I will share
Speaker 1: our a DP that we're using so people can follow
Speaker 1: along on Twitter. That explosive output, so people will be
Speaker 1: able to see who we're picking out of these rounds.
Speaker 1: To Matt, is that explosive output? I am at Paul
Speaker 1: Charchi and Scott fishes at Scott Fish twenty four. Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: All that works, all right, that's a good move. Let's
Speaker 1: go to round five. Which sixth rounder would you take
Speaker 1: in round five? Matt Harrison? Oh my god, it's a
Speaker 1: pity start for Matt. I wasn't even ready a J. Green.
Speaker 1: He's going in the sixth round, yes, but I'll take
Speaker 1: him in the fifth. He missed all of last season
Speaker 1: with an injury, but really read into that he got
Speaker 1: hurt and he didn't really want to play for the
Speaker 1: Bengals anymore. But they put him on the franchise tag
Speaker 1: this year, so he's got one more year there. He's
Speaker 1: missed time in two of the previous three, but in
Speaker 1: seasons where he's been healthy, he's been basically a slightly
Speaker 1: better version of Julio Jones. And Julio Jones you're picking
Speaker 1: in round two, you can get a J. Green, and
Speaker 1: you can pick him up easily in round five. Alright, Scott,
Speaker 1: I am going with J. K. Dobbins. It's possible he's
Speaker 1: the best back on that team, but it's definitely probable
Speaker 1: that he's better than Gus Edwards and Justice Hill, who
Speaker 1: had two six total touches last year. Only three running
Speaker 1: backs on that entire team had more than your touches
Speaker 1: last year, and those those two, I think all those
Speaker 1: carries go to Dobbins, and Dobbins is a guy that
Speaker 1: can be your league winner if he does supplant mark
Speaker 1: Ingram or if marketing they rest mark Ingram more for
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Are they? Or you know, he just beats
Speaker 1: him out. I've got t Y Hilton is my reach
Speaker 1: around player now healthy with Philip Rivers at the helm.
Speaker 1: Most most people, including me, expect a nice rebound for
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton back to his eighteen fantasy production two
Speaker 1: years ago, but always drafting him that way. He was
Speaker 1: wide receiver fourteen two seasons ago, and now he's got
Speaker 1: competent quarterbacking. I think he gets right back into that
Speaker 1: wide receiver fourteen fifteen level, and he's being drafted his
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty eight off the board. Let's go to
Speaker 1: round six. Which seventh rounder would you take in round six?
Speaker 1: Scott See, I love me and just some Deonte Johnson,
Speaker 1: but this is easily Michael Gallup for me. He's I
Speaker 1: think he's a lock for a hundred plus targets We've
Speaker 1: talked about him enough already. All Right, I got James White.
Speaker 1: I highlighted White is my sleeper of the week last week.
Speaker 1: I'll available on the podcast. Uh. It's a combination of
Speaker 1: a bad and injured sony Michelle Slash Lamar Miller and
Speaker 1: a quarterback who has thrown shorter and shorter every year.
Speaker 1: In fact, Cam's average depth of target went from ten
Speaker 1: point six sixteen to eight point four to seven point
Speaker 1: three eighteen. He's getting shorter and shorter with his passes,
Speaker 1: but they're becoming more accurate. He's gonna at James White
Speaker 1: a lot um. That's interesting. I also have James White here,
Speaker 1: and I think, are we just bored of James White?
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening? I think so. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why James White, who just every year finishes like running
Speaker 1: back fifteen in PPR and get nobody seems to ever
Speaker 1: want to draft James White for some reason. Let's go
Speaker 1: to running Let's go to round number seven. Which eighth
Speaker 1: rounder would you take here? Matt Oh, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Tom Brady And he's another guy I highlighted last week. Um,
Speaker 1: I just I think he has the opportunity to finish
Speaker 1: as a top five quarterback for sure, but a top
Speaker 1: three quarterback is where he predicted him last week. H
Speaker 1: um weapons coaching philosophy, his uncanny ability to steal for
Speaker 1: throw for over six hundred times in a season well
Speaker 1: into his forties. Best wide receivers he's ever had, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady Scott as much as I love Christen Kirk in
Speaker 1: this spot, it's got to be Alexander Mandison because I'm
Speaker 1: that guy in your draft that is stealing Madison. I'm
Speaker 1: stealing Zach Moss, I'm stealing J. K. Dobbins, I'm stealing
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. I'm going after all these guys to hopefully
Speaker 1: if something has happen. I'm getting a stud running back.
Speaker 1: I'm going with a stud tight end because they're still
Speaker 1: out there at this stage. It's it's my round seven player.
Speaker 1: That round eight player I'm taking around seven is Hayden Hurst.
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst drops into the Austin Hooper role in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: where Hooper was very successful. Hooper average six catches, sixty
Speaker 1: one yards and half a touchdown per game. Here comes
Speaker 1: hayden Hurst was a former first rounder with probably much
Speaker 1: more talent than Austin Hooper has ever had, so I
Speaker 1: think he walks into at least the Hooper numbers and
Speaker 1: I can get him in round seven. Let's go to
Speaker 1: round eight, Scott, Which round nine player are you willing
Speaker 1: to take in round eight? Well? Uh, the guy I
Speaker 1: want to take you're gonna talk about so while you
Speaker 1: remove your pants, Matt can uh you can? You can
Speaker 1: wait a minute. It's as Zack Moss Bonanza, go chart. Okay,
Speaker 1: we all got Zack Moss. Sorry for the broken record.
Speaker 1: And Zack Moss We've talked about him a lot in
Speaker 1: this show. Utah's all time leading rusher. He inherits Frank
Speaker 1: Gore's eleven carries inside the five and his eighteen carries
Speaker 1: inside the ten. He's got double digit upside, and I've
Speaker 1: already predicted he will score more Fantasy points than Devin Singletarry.
Speaker 1: I will continue to work that. All right, we continue
Speaker 1: with our reach around. We're gonna do one final round here.
Speaker 1: Which round ten player are you willing to take? In
Speaker 1: round nine? Scott? I'm taking Tony Pollard here for the
Speaker 1: same reasons I said with Madison. I think Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: if anything happens, is zeke. He's a top five running back.
Speaker 1: I got Mike Gasicki, one of two tight ends in
Speaker 1: the league with over fifty targets last year and zero drops.
Speaker 1: Really fifty targets, not one drop. The other tight end,
Speaker 1: George Kittle. He's pretty good. He's pretty good. So is Mikesicki.
Speaker 1: Uh And it was shown at the end of last
Speaker 1: year where he had seven or more targets in five
Speaker 1: of his last six games and had five touchdowns in
Speaker 1: those final six games. He was top ten in a
Speaker 1: lot of categories. He's good. I'm taking Manuel Sanders, a
Speaker 1: guy just completely overlooked by by fantasy owners. He probably
Speaker 1: finishes as Drew Brees second most targeted player behind Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: Only Michael Thomas and Brice hasn't had the luxury of
Speaker 1: a competent second receiver since Brandon Cooks in twenties sixteen,
Speaker 1: the last he was the last competent number two receiver
Speaker 1: Drew Brees had you know what Cooks did that year
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards and eight touchdowns. Lander seems good. A
Speaker 1: competent number two to Drew Brees, maybe most of yards
Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns, that would be fantastic. Emmanuel Sanders is
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Speaker 1: Final segment coming up next final segment of Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 1: Paul Chiarchi in, Scott Fish, Matt Harrison, thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us. If you any part of the show, we
Speaker 1: encourage you to check out the podcast version if you
Speaker 1: are listening to it over the air, where you can
Speaker 1: go back and hear the entire show. And I think
Speaker 1: it's safe to say that we were brilliant early in
Speaker 1: the show, so you ought to do that. Well, you
Speaker 1: and Scott were, that's for sure. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: I think Scott Scott I really carried the show. If
Speaker 1: you were just going to be frank about it in
Speaker 1: this segment. We're going to look at the vacated targets,
Speaker 1: by which we mean when teams go through their off season,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the past is thrown.
Speaker 1: Are the players that are gone now? So where those
Speaker 1: paths is gonna go this year? One of the great
Speaker 1: ways to identify players who are about to emerge with
Speaker 1: bigger seasons is to look at the vacated targets from
Speaker 1: the teams they are on. Scott, I have challenged you
Speaker 1: to come up with the list, and perhaps this is
Speaker 1: by do we want to go by the most vacated target.
Speaker 1: Let's go by the most vacated He actually challenged me,
Speaker 1: but then pulled it back and said, no, Scott will
Speaker 1: do a better job. You know what, you know, take
Speaker 1: it back. Can you hand me your computer please? Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's start off with the Atlanta Falcons who lost
Speaker 1: a ridiculous uh basically over sixteen targets per game. I'll
Speaker 1: do it per game instead of act I think that
Speaker 1: is better. Yeah, let's go see. Targets per game is
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, most quarterbacks might throw thirty two
Speaker 1: a game. You know, like half your targets are gone. Yep,
Speaker 1: exactly so, so half of the Falcons targets per game left,
Speaker 1: and in came Todd Gurley, who's had ninety receptions over
Speaker 1: the last two years. He not catch the ball, but
Speaker 1: he's and basically what Freeman left, he's gonna probably pick off. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then a whole bunch from Austin Hooper, which is
Speaker 1: basically going to go to hayden Hurst unless we think
Speaker 1: Treadwell is gonna I don't think that's gonna happen. No,
Speaker 1: So you're predicting a big year out of hers, do
Speaker 1: you think? Yes? As I as I mentioned last last segment,
Speaker 1: I love hayden Hurst. He's my number four tight end.
Speaker 1: By the way, we joke about the preseason games, but
Speaker 1: I called well, we all called us last year the
Speaker 1: first preseason last game last year where Atlanta kept throwing
Speaker 1: to their tight ends, we called it out on the show,
Speaker 1: and then Austin Hooper happened. From time to time, we
Speaker 1: do get things right on this show. It's we all
Speaker 1: want to brag about all the things that we get right.
Speaker 1: But we got that one right. But by the way,
Speaker 1: eighteen targets inside the ten gone from the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones get to double digit touchdowns. He's gotten better
Speaker 1: recently over on his touchdown only one season and double
Speaker 1: digits though, He's do all right. So if Atlanta has
Speaker 1: the most vacated targets, two second Dallas Cowboys with about
Speaker 1: twelve and most of that is twelve per game, which
Speaker 1: most of it is Witten. And if you think, if
Speaker 1: you think Jarwin's gonna slide right into that role, uh,
Speaker 1: you know he was. He was about tight end twelve
Speaker 1: last year Witten. Jarwin's got that upside, I guess if
Speaker 1: he can take it on. But remember they got see
Speaker 1: Lamb too catches and yep, yep. So that's the tricky
Speaker 1: part on on jar when I think he feels like
Speaker 1: to me, a matchup based starter, Yeah, a matchup based
Speaker 1: tight end two is what with with with some decent
Speaker 1: upside just because it is that opportunity is there and
Speaker 1: that offense could be really good with all those weapons,
Speaker 1: you know, possibly raising that target number. Uh. Washington Redskins
Speaker 1: eleven points seven targets per game opened up with a
Speaker 1: loss of guys like Paul Richardson and Jordan Read guys
Speaker 1: that they got a G. G. Gandy Golden came in. Uh,
Speaker 1: they got a couple of running backs that catch the
Speaker 1: ball J J. H. Mckissic, J. D. Mckissic and uh
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson. I think they're gonna use it gives in
Speaker 1: a decent amount catching the ball um. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: I can see those those eleven twelve targets per game
Speaker 1: going mostly there and maybe a little bit extra to
Speaker 1: McLaren um. Next down the list, about the same amount
Speaker 1: lost the New York Jets. They only they lost Robbie Anderson,
Speaker 1: a bunch of low level players brought in Mims and Perriman.
Speaker 1: Mims already dealing with a hamstring injury. We we see
Speaker 1: we see Pairman probably jumping right into the Robbie roll.
Speaker 1: I think it's almost a one for one change right there.
Speaker 1: I I would I would project Pairman right in line
Speaker 1: with what Robbie did, which was just okay. Now, what
Speaker 1: about Chris Herndon's who's getting a lot of love for
Speaker 1: people as a sleeper tight end and he's flashed some
Speaker 1: ability before, but super inconsistent injuries and a lot of
Speaker 1: other risk with him. Yep, he could play into that.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's not an offense. I really want
Speaker 1: to invest in the problem, right, Who wants to invest
Speaker 1: in Adam gay slid offense? Yeah? Not me. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been he's been day near the league low in place
Speaker 1: per game offensive place per games since even the Miami years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really tough to score points when you just don't
Speaker 1: have the ball for enough place. Who is your fifth
Speaker 1: most what's the team with the fifth most vacated targets? Right?
Speaker 1: About the same as the Redskins and Jets. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: the Washington team and the Jets. The Miami Dolphins with
Speaker 1: eleven targets per game gone. A lot of them were
Speaker 1: running back targets, believe it or not, layered ballage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Walton Draking Gaskin combined for a hundred twenty targets. Man
Speaker 1: is Matt Brita a sneaky super sleeper. That's exactly where
Speaker 1: I'm going with this, is that Matt Brita, that hundred
Speaker 1: twenty targets. I know some of those players are still
Speaker 1: kind of there, but let's be honest, they're lost. Those
Speaker 1: players are not getting those targets. They're not this year.
Speaker 1: Those hundred twenty targets. Jargean Howard doesn't catch if you
Speaker 1: tell me Brita gets seventy catches this year. I'm not
Speaker 1: shocked at the end of the year. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they had lost that many passes
Speaker 1: to running back. That's just running back targets. A hundred
Speaker 1: darn Brita sneaky last pick off your draft, all right?
Speaker 1: I like that angle, all right? So that's our top
Speaker 1: five vacated targets. Yes, I will say on the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: they lost Albert Wilson and Alan Hearn's who who had
Speaker 1: more targets than I thought they would. So I think
Speaker 1: that only really ample eyes Preston Williams. It always comes
Speaker 1: back to Preston Williams. Yeah. I know there's some Isaiah
Speaker 1: Ford slot love out there. That's Brian's sleeper from last week,
Speaker 1: But it's Preston Williams. Brian's more wrong than I am.
Speaker 1: There's a pecking order here, I think very firmly established
Speaker 1: that do you want to go any deeper than the
Speaker 1: top five? Well, I could. I could say the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals lost a hundred fifty six targets and Hopkins had
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty last year, So did they get
Speaker 1: absorbed by Hopkins? I made this joke earlier. It's like
Speaker 1: a fantasy league where you lose a bunch of like
Speaker 1: you trade a bunch of bottom level players and you
Speaker 1: just get one stud back. That's that's basically what they did.
Speaker 1: Add that up. That always works. Yeah, so that's about it.
Speaker 1: I could go more if you want me to, but
Speaker 1: we got sleepers to talk. We do have sleepers to
Speaker 1: talk about. Every week of the season, we unveil a
Speaker 1: different sleeper that we are backing. Matprit just could just
Speaker 1: be mine not I mean, I don't tempt me. Um
Speaker 1: that we that we think is going vastly under drafted,
Speaker 1: we think, well, I'll perform his draft position. So it
Speaker 1: could be a guy who's going in round ten, do
Speaker 1: you think will perform like a sixth rounder, or could
Speaker 1: even be a fourth rounder. You think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like a first rounder. So anybody who's going to significantly
Speaker 1: outperform his draft position. We begin with WHOA I'm feeling
Speaker 1: I'm feeling some remorse right now. I don't think I
Speaker 1: have treated you fairly over the course of the show, Matt.
Speaker 1: I want you to leave with your head on up high. Well,
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Speaker 1: Um my sleeper And I did mention this in the
Speaker 1: Bell cowse segment. There were four backfields that are awful
Speaker 1: and brutal to try to predict. Last week I trick
Speaker 1: to James White out of the New England backfield. That's
Speaker 1: one of them. This week, I'm going Malcolm Brown out
Speaker 1: of the l a Rams back, very unpopular, pick the popular.
Speaker 1: He's the third and a DP among the Rams backs
Speaker 1: right now. Last year, the Rams were third in the
Speaker 1: league in red zone carries and second in touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the red zone. In fact, in three years under Sean McVeigh,
Speaker 1: the Rams have never finished worse then third in the
Speaker 1: league in carries inside the twenty while Todd Gurley took
Speaker 1: fifteen carries from inside the five last year and converted
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, which is a really good right there. Malcolm
Speaker 1: Brown had eight carries, which is just over half, and
Speaker 1: he had five touchdowns. That's a sixty two percent success rate.
Speaker 1: So together Gurley and Brown made up of the runs
Speaker 1: inside the five. So I'm not worried about Darrell Henderson here.
Speaker 1: Cam Akers is the other guy. He could end up
Speaker 1: being the between mean the twenties runner. But I think
Speaker 1: the success that Malcolm Brown showed last year makes him
Speaker 1: the goal line guy on one of the most prolific
Speaker 1: goal line running offenses in the league. So get that
Speaker 1: guy on your roster with the very last pick in
Speaker 1: your draft. Malcolm Brown, I like it. You made a
Speaker 1: compelling case. That's I'm You've kind of convinced me. You're
Speaker 1: always surprised when I kind of convinced you too. It's
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny, Scott, who is your sleeper this week?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Joshua Kelly, the guy I'm grabbing
Speaker 1: late in a lot of leagues. Uh. Matt has gone
Speaker 1: over all that the Chargers lost with Melvin Gordon and
Speaker 1: mentioned maybe Austin Clark takes a lot of work. Austin
Speaker 1: Ekeler had two touches this year the last year. Even
Speaker 1: if he gets up to seventy five, there's about two
Speaker 1: hundred more touches to go around. The Chargers lost fourteen
Speaker 1: touches inside the five um with the loss of Melvin
Speaker 1: which is a lot. Yeah, which touches for one player
Speaker 1: inside the five is a lot of carries. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Kelly is easily the biggest of them, although it looks fine,
Speaker 1: even though Kelly's bigger, Austin Uler looks pretty big. But
Speaker 1: that's a hundred carries, sixty three sixty three receptions all
Speaker 1: that Josh Kelly could get. And another thing people aren't
Speaker 1: talking about quite enough. This offense is going to be different.
Speaker 1: They threw the ball in five ninety seven times last year.
Speaker 1: Tyrad Teller has never thrown the ball over. They might
Speaker 1: run a ton more, I think this year, so there
Speaker 1: might be even more carries available for Josh Kelly. And
Speaker 1: we don't even know that that. We don't even know
Speaker 1: what the starting quarterback is going to be. You know,
Speaker 1: probably be tailor in week one, but at some point
Speaker 1: they may he may hand the reins off to Herbert
Speaker 1: and then run that much more. We know as they
Speaker 1: work in a rookie quarterback. My sleeper is Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Last year, he was quarterback six in drafts at this
Speaker 1: time last year. Now he's quarterback sixteen. Despite the fact
Speaker 1: that he is a year older, wiser, more exp rienst
Speaker 1: and has so many more things going for him now,
Speaker 1: like competent coaching and Kevin Stefanski, who unlocked the best
Speaker 1: season of Kirk Cousin's career last year. He's got the
Speaker 1: He's got five receiving options around him, including new edition
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper plus Odell Beckham Jarvis Landry, both of his
Speaker 1: starting running backs are excellent receivers out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: He's got all of those. Reminder that Baker Mayfield finished
Speaker 1: last year pretty well. He was RB sorry Qbirt in
Speaker 1: the second half of last year. I've despite a disastrous
Speaker 1: start when he was like QB. The team addressed that
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I love this part for him signing
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin in free agency and then putting that first
Speaker 1: round draft pick on Jedrick Wills. The two tackle upgrades,
Speaker 1: and their interior line was actually really really good as
Speaker 1: far as grades with Pro Football focus, and their tackles
Speaker 1: were brutal. Yeah, and it's expressed it all the things
Speaker 1: that are going right in Cleveland, and yet Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: going off the board in the eleventh round. Right, many
Speaker 1: people got burned by Baker last thing. So hey, speaking
Speaker 1: of the of the Chargers, let's talk Keenan Allen for
Speaker 1: just a moment um. Currently going off the board roughly
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty five. Is there something wrong with Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen besides this quarterback? Do you guys feel like this
Speaker 1: is the right spot for I think I think he's
Speaker 1: being underdrafted by a fair margin. I'm gobbling him up
Speaker 1: in like the fifth round and like just about every
Speaker 1: draft I'm in, and I didn't mention him and reach
Speaker 1: around though us did. He's just always there. I think
Speaker 1: he's boring. He's been around for a long time. He
Speaker 1: hasn't scored a lot of touchdowns in the last few years,
Speaker 1: but he's very consistent from receptions and yard standpoints. So
Speaker 1: it's a great guy to have. Is your wide receiver
Speaker 1: two or maybe wide receiver three on a really good team.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things we've talked about in
Speaker 1: past seasons, not this year, is a boring draft in
Speaker 1: which you just you draft a lot of players that
Speaker 1: people are just bored up for no good reason. I
Speaker 1: think t Y Hilton fits the bill, James White fits
Speaker 1: that bill. Keenan Allen fits that bill. As just players
Speaker 1: that are really good players, maybe not explosive players, but
Speaker 1: really good players who were just like man, I've been
Speaker 1: drafting a guy for years and he just doesn't excite
Speaker 1: me as much as some of the other players do.
Speaker 1: And I think Keenan Allen falls into that a little bit.
Speaker 1: How much, if any does Tyrod Taylor hurt Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: I don't think it hurts. Tyrod's a professional quarterback. I
Speaker 1: mean he's been a he's been a backup for years.
Speaker 1: But if if that team is throwing the ball hunter
Speaker 1: in fifty less times, I mean it's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: hurt a little would hurt. Yeah, I think maybe Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen's his issue is probably just like we've talked about,
Speaker 1: that fourth and fifth round for the fourth round is
Speaker 1: just loaded with high high up the Ridley's, the A. J. Brown's,
Speaker 1: the Metcalfs, the Cooper Cops, the Kenny Golladays. Like you
Speaker 1: want the sky high potential of all of those instead
Speaker 1: of the safe I'm going to be wide receiver nine
Speaker 1: to fifteen Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen is a Guillotine League receiver.
Speaker 1: You want to get him in a gill team safe
Speaker 1: easy numbers. Every week, I'll give you another guy, Julian Edelman. Sure,
Speaker 1: older veteran receiver, always good. Nobody wants him. Is he
Speaker 1: going wide receiver? But people are doing with this with
Speaker 1: zach Ertz this year too. Yeah, there's probably a little
Speaker 1: bit of that for zach Ertz. Yeah. I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. But there are opportunities out there
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