WEBVTT - A Listener Whine: Boys and Girls

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This week's listener episode, We've got Stephanie Davies on, so

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<v Speaker 2>excited to chat with her, so let's get her on.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Stephanie, I'm Jana.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to Oh so this is our first time meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't met before. Nope, okay, fabulous, Because sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>have this thing where because there's certain people that I

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<v Speaker 2>remember face wise, I forget names or whatever. But then

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<v Speaker 2>it's I always feel bad and I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>met you at a show these many years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>So most of the time I'm always I always say

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see you, because that chance it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just covers the basis of like it is nice to

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<v Speaker 2>see you, and it's nice to see you, like Yabby again,

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<v Speaker 2>like we.

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<v Speaker 3>Did talk about. I messaged you the other week about

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<v Speaker 3>Roman and the tube at the at the Lake because

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter was going to go on the toe too,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I'm so nervous. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>saw that and I was like, I'm just gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Her, yeah, and then yeah, we dm that's right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. So we have chatted before, So what

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<v Speaker 2>was the verdict? Did you end up taking your son

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<v Speaker 2>or daughter on the tube?

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<v Speaker 3>She actually didn't end up going. It was just like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just so chaotic that we actually didn't even have

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<v Speaker 3>the time to go. But I think she might try

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so exciting. So you live in Toronto, is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Live in Toronto. You've got three kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Three kids? So I have an almost three year

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<v Speaker 3>old daughter and then I have ten month old twins,

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<v Speaker 3>boy and girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a natural?

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<v Speaker 3>It was natural? It was shocking. Although I have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of twins on both sides of my family, so

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<v Speaker 3>it really shouldn't have been a shock, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot of emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>That Yeah, I mean, gosh, it's I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine it. It's like I've obviously known people that I've

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<v Speaker 2>had twins, but it just seems I mean, one to

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<v Speaker 2>two for me was the hardest transition. So I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine like one to three like right in a job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was crazy. It is my daughter though, she

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<v Speaker 3>has been amazing with them, like there hasn't even been

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<v Speaker 3>like she hasn't even ever been like I don't like them,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this, they're bothering me. She has been

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with them since day one, and they have been

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with her, so that it's almost easier when I

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<v Speaker 3>have all three kids home with me because they get

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<v Speaker 3>to they play together now. But yeah, it's it's been,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been amazing. It's I mean, life is obviously so chaotic,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like the best thing and the hardest thing

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<v Speaker 3>in the world as sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll just go right into it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you What is something that you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to know this, even though again I am not

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<v Speaker 2>the best person to give all advice, David, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>have a little mom girl chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, Okay, deal, So I just I have

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<v Speaker 3>some questions here. So what what's the best piece of

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<v Speaker 3>advice you've ever received about raising daughters?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a goodness, that is that's a really really good question.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's like, there's there's a few things, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things that I've heard that really

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<v Speaker 2>stood out to me was that you have to let them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how do I say this?

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<v Speaker 2>We all have our own like little girl baggage trauma

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<v Speaker 2>right from our childhood, whether it was good, bad, ugly

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<v Speaker 2>for me personally, I'm always trying to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well I didn't have this, so let me give her

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<v Speaker 2>this or let me you know, this is how I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be talked to, so let me try to

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<v Speaker 2>do it this way. And I think what I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>with raising my daughter is that, you know, she's she's

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of teaching me a lot of things too

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't I didn't really know. And then then

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<v Speaker 2>also like I didn't have that example, I guess growing

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<v Speaker 2>up too. So a lot of times, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's letting her almost now there's this I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>it like this like rule the shit, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>her to come to me and tell me things like

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<v Speaker 2>there was one time when I got upset with her

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, well, you never taught me that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you're absolutely right, I did not teach you that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's letting her feel her emotions

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<v Speaker 2>without being like, oh, you're being too sensitive or you're

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<v Speaker 2>being this. Like she's she's about to be eleven, so

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<v Speaker 2>she's coming into more hormonal changes. So it's more just

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<v Speaker 2>like letting her be, letting her be silly, letting her

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<v Speaker 2>be fun. You know, I saw something that said when

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<v Speaker 2>kids are overly not overly, but like when kids are

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<v Speaker 2>super silly and wild and free, and you know they

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<v Speaker 2>they act silly, it's because they feel comfortable and they

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe. So it's just like pouring that into them.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, she's just really her own person and

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<v Speaker 2>not putting myself onto her. So it's like, yeah, did

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<v Speaker 2>I want her to be a figure skater one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, she's not. She doesn't want to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and she doesn't have like the balance of a skater,

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<v Speaker 2>and not putting my own stuff on her because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to and her, you know, her course to look

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<v Speaker 2>like this or yeah, I mean really just like letting

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<v Speaker 2>her like be her own little individual instead of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to heal my little girl from when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? I know that's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very long n example, but like so many times I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm I was started to realize that I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to parent her how I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>parent and I'm like, listen, she's a totally different little

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<v Speaker 2>girl than I was so let me pour into her.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what does she need? Ask her?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what do you need right now? Like do

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<v Speaker 2>you just need to be in your room and be

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<v Speaker 2>mad because your brother's annoying you? Like that's cool, you

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<v Speaker 2>know if like you need that moment, you have a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can stay in there, and you can have a

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<v Speaker 2>choice to not be in your room, Like it's up

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<v Speaker 2>to you too, and not like telling her every time

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<v Speaker 2>what she has to do. And I think that's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's all aging up to like now, I think she's

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<v Speaker 2>at that age where it's having those like you have

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<v Speaker 2>these are choices. You have a choice to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a choice to do that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to you now too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure, I like that one. Yeah. Another thing

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<v Speaker 3>about raising daughters is there are there any intentional things

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<v Speaker 3>you do to help your daughter feel heard, confident and

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<v Speaker 3>safe as she grows up.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had that's a great question. We've had this

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<v Speaker 2>thing on her wall since she was a little girl,

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<v Speaker 2>and it says I'm confident, i am brave, i am beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like all all the affirmations right, because again, what

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<v Speaker 2>I just said about not doing like what I needed

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid. This is I'm literally talking out of

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<v Speaker 2>two sides of my mouth because at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't have those positive reinforcements as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sure my parents felt all those things, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I grew up to believe that like oh I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't smart, I wasn't like good enough, or I wasn't this, X, Y,

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<v Speaker 2>and Z. So what I can do, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>her to like instill that, because once she gets out

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<v Speaker 2>of this house, and even before she leaves this house

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<v Speaker 2>going to school, she's going to start hearing negative things

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<v Speaker 2>from someone. Like the other last year she said she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't smiling a bunch of pictures and I said, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't you smiling? And She's like someone told me

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<v Speaker 2>that I had buck teeth or that I look like

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<v Speaker 2>a horse. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, I'm like, you have beautiful teeth. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's like she's going to hear negative things from everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else outside in like outside this house. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>if we can pour the positive belief, so is that

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<v Speaker 2>she believes it so that she can go okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>like almost like laugh it off. And not believe when

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<v Speaker 2>someone else tells her something mean like and really just

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<v Speaker 2>like every so every night we say a prayer and

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<v Speaker 2>we look up at her things and I say, Jolie Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you? And she's like, I'm brave, I'm confident,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm smart.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I've started to do is I've looked at

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<v Speaker 2>her and I said, and do you really like you

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<v Speaker 2>believe that? You know, like do you feel that in

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<v Speaker 2>your core? And she's like, yeah, mommy, I do. And

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<v Speaker 2>again age appropriate whise stuff. Now that she's getting older,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I'm like, hey, like, is there anything you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about that you know, did something frustrate

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<v Speaker 2>you today or do you feel you know, do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel unsafe with something? Or do you do you just

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<v Speaker 2>want to like, I will always want to open up

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation for how they feel and emotions, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's so important so that they can one day,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully when she's thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, she can come to

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<v Speaker 2>me and go, I feel this yeah, instead of holding

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<v Speaker 2>it in, you know, Like that's how like when in

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<v Speaker 2>my adolescence, I was like I never I was too

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to say how I actually felt because I felt stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do that. So I was really really good

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<v Speaker 3>at it. When my daughter turned one, and every morning

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<v Speaker 3>we would get ready and I would do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She would say, I am and she, for an almost

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<v Speaker 3>three year old, she talks. Her language skills are amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And my husband always says it's because I talk so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like always just talk to her, and I

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<v Speaker 3>honestly forget that she's just three years old because I

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<v Speaker 3>love just having the conversation with her. But everyone morning

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<v Speaker 3>when we get ready, I'll be like, I am, and

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<v Speaker 3>she'll go, I am brave, I am beautiful, I am smart,

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<v Speaker 3>I am kind. We just kind of lost it a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, obviously from having the twins. So like I

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<v Speaker 3>like even before dead last night, I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do this, Like, but it's I I just want yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, like, I just want them to to

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<v Speaker 3>know that like they're they're just perfect and they're beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>and they're smart, and yeah, they're going to hear so

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<v Speaker 3>much stuff from the outside world that in here it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like you can do no wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, I lose my case sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you know, as moms do, we can be like ah,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully they always come back to the core. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it doesn't have to be every night, but

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<v Speaker 2>we try to do it every single night. And then

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<v Speaker 2>another thing too is I don't know your spiritual background,

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<v Speaker 2>but we pray. You know, I'm always whether I sit

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<v Speaker 2>there and you know, we say it together. But knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that she is a place to go to too, like

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<v Speaker 2>when she gets scared, because I also didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, I didn't know that I could go

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<v Speaker 2>talk to somebody else to be like, hey, I'm scared,

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<v Speaker 2>watch over me. Because she gets really scared, like up

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<v Speaker 2>in her room at night time, like the night scares her.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I can only say so much. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I say to her, ask God about it, or

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<v Speaker 2>pray about it or talk to Yeah, that's idea, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because then it's then you're instilling another way of safety

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good idea. Another question I had moving

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<v Speaker 3>on to boys, the what values are most important to

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<v Speaker 3>you when raising your sons and how do you encourage

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<v Speaker 3>them to grow into kind and respectful people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I owe a lot of credit to my husband

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<v Speaker 2>with this one because he's really helped me with in

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<v Speaker 2>this area of being like Jase, you respect women, you

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<v Speaker 2>open up doors, you are kind to them. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>hit your sister, you don't scream like that, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>he'll he'll sometimes really angry and he'll scream or they

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<v Speaker 2>and they just at the age right now they're just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fighting a little bit. I think with Summer too,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just at each other's throats a bit more. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's really about always knowing like, we don't hit girls,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't talk to girls like that. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>if it's your sister and she's annoying you, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to also control your emotion. So

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's go in your room, scream, hit your punching bag,

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<v Speaker 2>do what you need to do because you don't take

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<v Speaker 2>it out on your sister, no matter how like upset

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<v Speaker 2>you are. And that goes the same for Jolie too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like that attitude is not okay. He doesn't deserve

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<v Speaker 2>that either, So it does go both ways. But it

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<v Speaker 2>really is about, like you know, I think, and Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Set's a really good example with that, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll come home and he'll bring flowers and he's I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do think the dad leads and Stepdad lead

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<v Speaker 2>the way in that area with helping them like see

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<v Speaker 2>the example, because I think for them, seeing the example

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<v Speaker 2>is what also shapes them. And I think, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>just the other day, you know, Jace opened up the

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<v Speaker 2>door and when we were and I'm like, oh, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was so cute, and but it's because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan has kind of showed him like, hey, if the

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<v Speaker 2>girls are right there, you open the door for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all just about like when he was at

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<v Speaker 2>a friend's house too, it's you know, yes ma'am and no, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think it's important to and still respectful

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<v Speaker 2>behaviors that way, it'll carry out into school and other

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<v Speaker 2>people's homes, because I think that's important. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you know, the kids listen again, they're kids, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like his age too, Like he's about to be eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's definitely getting a little bit more lippy with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also knows too. He's like, come sorry, mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm sorry, you know, and it's like because he

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<v Speaker 2>says such a sweet boy like at his core. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think he's you know, I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>just keep showing them by example. That's the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that, and I love showing them like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my son is only ten months old, but

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<v Speaker 3>even with my oldest daughter, like I love showing them

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<v Speaker 3>how like like mommy and daddy can laugh together, they

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<v Speaker 3>can fool around, like we always play together. Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just I love showing that kind of things because I

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<v Speaker 3>want them to grow up being like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what you deserve and this is what it's actually like.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very important to us for sure. But I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought having my daughter and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely gonna have a girl next, Like I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>picture myself with boys and then just having like a

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<v Speaker 3>little son. It's just like I'm so happy with like

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<v Speaker 3>two girls two boys, perfect, Like it's it's amazing. And

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<v Speaker 3>like he's only yet many ten months old, so obviously

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<v Speaker 3>still so little, but I'm excited for him to grow

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<v Speaker 3>into like the little boy he's gonna be, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>just so sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Already because they're the twins are boys.

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<v Speaker 3>The twins are boy girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, wow, that's awesome. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>because two boys like are they're not made the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Roman is wildly different than Jase was as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like totally different energy. But yes, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>boys are they love their mama. Yeah, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>really it's really sweet. And then you know, the girls

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<v Speaker 2>will the girls will test you in the best ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love my relationship with my daughter. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because you know, on my good days, on

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<v Speaker 2>my bad days, I'm I'm I'm there for and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Mommy didn't do that perfectly and I'm really sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I kind of explain to you, like when I

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<v Speaker 2>have to repeat myself for the fifth time, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to get upset?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like you gotta you gotta give mom a

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<v Speaker 2>little grace yeayeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then just my last question, this is about more

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<v Speaker 3>like the motherhood and friendships. But did your friendships ever

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<v Speaker 3>changed when you became mom, especially with the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>don't have kids, And if so, how did you navigate that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard, I mean, friendships in this season of life

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<v Speaker 2>is really difficult, and I think you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking to a girlfriend of mine, ran into them.

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<v Speaker 2>I took Jolie and my in laws are in town.

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<v Speaker 2>So we took them downtown Nashville and Jolie came with

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<v Speaker 2>us and one of my friends that I love her,

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<v Speaker 2>I rarely see her, and you know, she's game, this

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<v Speaker 2>big old hug and I'm like, while, like, we just

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<v Speaker 2>need to hang out more, you know. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I love spending time with my husband and my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's the work and you know, pile all

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<v Speaker 2>that on top of it with their activities. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even last night, I was supposed to have a Ukra

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<v Speaker 2>night and it got canceled because you know, we were

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was just kind of tired. And it's it does

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<v Speaker 2>whether they have kids or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yes, I had some friends that didn't have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they do, and then the ages are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I just friendships change as you get older.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. And I wish that wasn't the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that there's a time and a season

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm going to pour more into it, but right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, when I'm home, I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>with my my family and my kids and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know my friends are there. They're always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like They're always going to be there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be there for them, and the season

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<v Speaker 2>will come back around when, you know, maybe I won't

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<v Speaker 2>be as tired past eight o'clock and I'll want to

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<v Speaker 2>hang out and you know. So it's I just I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be afraid of the seasons that come with friends,

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<v Speaker 2>because the real, the true ones are going to stay there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm still best friends with my high school of friends,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I get envious because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>somehow they're able to make it all work and hang

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<v Speaker 2>out all the time. But it's I look at my

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<v Speaker 2>friends here and I'm like, we have everyone kind of

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<v Speaker 2>has different ages or we're farther away, and then they've

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, maybe they're their husband's always traveling or

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<v Speaker 2>X Y and Z, and so it's just it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>just hard. It's just hard, you know. But that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just pouring into the season of Okay, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>my family, it's family time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you for sure. It's like the

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<v Speaker 3>weeks are so Monday to Friday or so go, go go,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just want to like hold on to the

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<v Speaker 3>weekends and cherish it with your family. And all that,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in the summer. It's just so crazy, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, and it's I found that friendships did change.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also reconnected with old friends that had kids

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<v Speaker 3>around the same time I did, and it's been amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you just have that you created like a little

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<v Speaker 3>mom group and it's it's it's been fun like being

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<v Speaker 3>friends with people I used to be friends with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that well, Stephanie. I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>coming on. I'm so just I'm like happy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you've just got a beautiful little family,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Toronto. Maybe you were very close to

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan and so we went up there, Yeah, like for

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<v Speaker 2>my fifth grade field trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we go to Actually my husband went to school

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<v Speaker 3>and played hockey in Michigan, so I was we were

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<v Speaker 3>there a lot, and we're actually going in October to

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<v Speaker 3>visit too. But yeah, so very.

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<v Speaker 1>Love Yeah, I love that. Well, thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie for ting on.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so sweet. I know they so officially meet you. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>alrighte bye girl.

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<v Speaker 3>H