WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: The Japanese Anarchists Part 1 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:02.880 Cool Zone Media. 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.840 Hello, and welcome to Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.200 You're a weekly reminder that when bad things are happening, 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.680 people try to do good things like kill Japanese emperors. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.840 Because this is a rerun episode and we are going 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.840 back to the very first year of Cool People Who 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.600 Did Cool Stuff, I am showing you again an episode 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.920 because I think is pretty cool. It's an episode about 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.080 the Japanese anarchist women who kept trying to kill emperors 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.960 as there was a bunch of them. And this is 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:44.080 totally unrelated to anything happening now. Hello, welcome to it 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.680 could happen here the podcast that is my podcast. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:46.960 Now. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.120 I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and with me is the 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:54.720 Webby Award winning Sophie Lichterman as our producer, as well 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.520 as the actual hosts of the show, who go without 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.280 mentioning because I don't see any reason to include them. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.399 Can that just be the intro to every episode for now? 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.640 Yeah? This is better than our all of our regular 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.959 introsh I loved that. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.720 Yeah, So what are we talking about today? Also on podcast, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.199 Garrison Davis and Christopher Wong. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.160 Hello, Yes, so today we are we are talking about. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:33.559 The sort of long and incredibly tragic history of Japanese anarchism. Well, okay, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.800 I actually about this Japanese anarchism before World War Two, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.319 because after World War Two was an entirely different story. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.440 And as much as I love people in construction helmets 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.080 just like beating the shit out of cops with large sticks, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.480 that story is extremely complicated. If you want to hear 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.400 me talk more about that story a little bit. The 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.760 third part of my Nobosuikikishi episode has a lot of 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.919 people in construction helmets with sticks. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.200 But yeah, no, this is. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.040 You know, okay, So the history of anarchism generally is 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.840 the history of tragedy, but even by by anarchist standards, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.680 the history of Japanese anarchism is just an absolute welter 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.880 of heartbreak and loss. Out of all of the people 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.680 that we're going to talk about today, exactly one of 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.560 the non Russian anarchists is going to live to see 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.480 world the end of World War two, and he's Korean. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.040 Every single other person is either going to be executed 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.560 by the state, assassinated, kill themselves, drink themselves of death. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.160 So this is uh, this is this is an extreme 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.919 om bleak story in a lot of ways. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.440 Good to have one of those optimistic episodes every once 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:35.919 in a while. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.880 Yeah, you know, I mean I think the. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:46.800 Thrown down a well, well, okay, it's it's unclear whether 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.200 anyone got thrown down. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:48.440 Awe. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.799 I'm sorry, I'm skipping ahead and I don't actually know. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.880 We will get to the wells uh yeah, I I 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.720 also okay, So there's a lot of Japanese anarchists and 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.920 we don't have that much time. So if you're like 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:07.680 in Asawa U, Sakataro Stan, I'm sorry, we can't. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.679 Cover all of them. And the ever think about the 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.160 history of anarchism in Japan that is weird is that 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.160 the beginning of the story predates they're actually being anarchists 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.720 in Japan, or pysically they're being Japanese anarchists. There's this 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.280 huge degree of sort of like cultural exchange and influence 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.760 running between Japan and Russia by rich of the fact 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.760 that they are, you know, next to each other, and 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.720 especially in the eighteen seventies and eighteen eighties. This is 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:38.640 one of the sort of. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.920 This is important again because Russia in this period is 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.880 like a this is like the hotbed of anarchism, right 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.440 like they're they're killed, they're killing the czar, They're they're 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.920 they're doing all the things. They're going to the countryside, 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.440 they're the Russian anarchists are sort of on the move, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.400 and a lot of the famous Russian anarchists wind up 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.200 like in Japan. Bakunin is there for like you like 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.680 he has some extremely complicated arrangement who he like sneaks 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.240 on a boat and he like gets out and he 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.840 beats one of the sort of like samurai like Beiji 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.040 Restoration revolutionaries, and they chat for a bit and then 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:11.520 he leaves. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.599 So he you know Muchinon's not this is when he 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.800 was escaping Siberia. Yeah, well I think, yeah, he's escaped 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:21.400 me Siberia. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.240 And then he somehow convinces like the American embassy or 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.280 something to like let him on a boat to Japan. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.520 It's it's a very weird story, as I call. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.159 Things, Bakunin ar But the most probably anarchists to spend 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:40.480 time in Japan is Lev Meshnikov. Meshinakov is like he's 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.280 like a pretty big deal in Russian revolutionary circles, Like 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.120 he's he's considered like okay, so the the big sort 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.520 of like anarchists. Left wing moving to Japan is the 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:55.560 populist right. It's called the rob Nicks. And there's two 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:00.359 big figures in it. There's uh Nikolai Turnichewsky and this 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:06.320 guy left Menchikov, And you know, he's Menchakov. Like he 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.919 knows everyone he knows, like he's friends with just like 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.599 every single person. And we will get to more of 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.640 his friends later. But like he's a kind of part 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.520 of bakoonin he he has. He has a very similar 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.000 creative Bacoon in a lot of ways where he just 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.320 sort of like runs away, especially like Eastern Europe. He's 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.320 like runs around the world being in revolutions, which is 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:26.919 good work. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.440 If he can get it. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.720 Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty exciting. And he doesn't die, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.200 which is sort of incredible. Oh well, I love that 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:41.280 for him, So he's still around. Yeah, this is very sad, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.680 you know, well, I mean he he you know. Look, look, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.400 this is this is the goal of Russian cosmism. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.920 No is it actually cosmism? 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.080 I have no idea. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:53.000 Yeah, the cosmonaut people, yeah yeah, yeah, they bring back 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.839 all the dead people. Oh no, I don't know about this. 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.520 I only know a weird thing where there was like 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.320 anarchist cosmonauts in like nineteen twenties Ussia. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.440 Yeah, yeah, so there, their whole thing was like, uh okay, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.280 so they they they thought that the anarchists had been 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.880 defeated in the revolution because they were insufficiently committed to 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.200 bring the dead back to life, and that that that, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.159 you know, the whole thing was like they like they're 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.120 there's some of the people who are involved in like 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.360 the Soviet like rocket programs, and they're doing this because 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.440 they want to colonize the moon in March so they 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.240 can fit all of the dead Poltaria they're gonna bring 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:23.880 back to life. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:25.800 Wait, are you telling the truth to me? 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:27.880 This is all true? 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:33.240 This is this is just amazing. I've been trying to 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.280 fight for the Anarchist Necromancer League for so long, which 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.600 our slogan is raised the dead to fight like hell 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.200 for the living. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.760 That it's incredible. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.600 But yeah, no, like, uh, the Russian cosmism, it's a 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.080 weird one cosmism. It's like a weird mix of like 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.640 like natural philosophy quote unquote, which is just like different 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.840 films of like folk magic or whatever, and like religion 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.680 and spiritual stuff, but also it's like a predecessor to 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.839 like the modern transhumanism. It's a it's an interesting little 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.320 collection of ideas that was popular at like the very 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.000 beginning of the twentieth century. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.080 It's part of my thesis that no one normal has 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.880 ever been involved in the production of a rocket like 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.680 I mean, yeah on the Soviet in and then there's 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.120 just like the Nazis and it's like, oh, zero normal people. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.160 I have no counter argument there was that because there 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.320 was the guy who did all the multi stage rocketry, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.200 the Nihilists who killed the czar, who built the bomb 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.760 that killed the czar. He like, when I talk about 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.520 this in my podcast, Oh, probably already listened to this. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:43.600 You have a podcast? 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.520 WHOA Yeah, I really just I'm here. I'm gonna plug 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:52.000 this every like five minutes. This episode you can learn 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.200 about the bombmaker who killed the czar and his what 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.560 he brought to the world in terms of rocketry and 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:05.160 manned rocket travel. Anyway, please continue on what on WAT show? 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:05.600 Margaret? 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.880 Well, okay, is this podcast that I'm recording on right now? 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.080 When does it come out? When are you listening to it, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.880 dear readers? Okay, Well, then next Monday you can listen 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:19.920 to cool people who did cool stuff, which is my podcast. Yeah, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.240 I'm so good at my job anyway. My job is 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.880 to interrupt you with please tell me more about the 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.800 cosmos and how they relate to Japan. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.520 The cousm was actually nothing to do with this, unfortunately. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:36.360 Oh okay, but yeah, but uh Lev uh Lev Meshnikov 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.200 like he also he like fights with Garibaldi to unify Italy. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.040 He's just like all over the place. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.160 But he's an interesting guy because Okay, so there's like 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.080 a lot of foreigners who go to Japan, but he 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.360 like makes Japanese friends and like learns Japanese before he 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.880 goes there, which makes him like utterly different than like 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.040 ninety nine percent of the people who are writing like 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.079 Westerns who are writing abut Japan in this period, who 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.760 like don't speak very good Japanese and never leave their houses. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:11.360 So nothing has changed, Yeah, yeah, well except weirdly, this 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.240 one guy's doing better. Oh no, I mean nothing has 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.800 changed from now no where. No Westerners actually, they just 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.439 pretend to care about Japan. Okay, Yeah, it's it's it's time, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.800 there's actually that's one of the burning themes of these 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.640 two episodes is like there's a lot of stuff about this, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.040 about anarchism and about Japan just like don't change. But 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.920 you know, so one of the things that Mechiakov winds 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.080 up doing is he winds up spending two years teaching 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.240 at this thing called the Tokyo School of Foreign Languages. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.200 And this has a bunch of major impacts, one of 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.600 which is is on Meshnikov himself, who he becomes heavily 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.560 influenced by by the Major Restoration, which he thinks of 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.520 as like this like but he looks at it at 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.000 this is like as a revolution, like this is an 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.360 acty feudal revolution. This is the most successful social revolution 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.040 of that you sent It's like he thinks that it's 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.960 like destroyed the sort of stratified class system and creates 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.040 this like possibility of like mass social mobility for commoners. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.720 And Okay, so this is like not the best interpretation 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.920 of what's going on with with the Major Restoration. Where 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.000 I mean, so the Major Restoration sort of ends the 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.079 fuel system in Japan, it does a lot of other 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:24.679 bad things. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.360 What is it, Like, I don't know that much about this, Yeah, yeah, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.680 so maybe the audience doesn't either. Okay, So the Major 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.640 restoration is a thing that happens where so so Japan 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.440 has been ruled by a shogun for like a long time, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.080 and the shogun runs a fuel system. It's very elaborate. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.480 Everyone has at least sort of ritied hard casts. But 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:51.600 eventually there's this kind of like that there's there's this 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:57.760 sort of it's complicated. It's this kind of nationalist movement 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.400 by a bunch of like a bunch of the samurai clans, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.280 who uh this is this is happening in the eighteen sixties, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.880 and they mobilize to overthrow like the shogunate and basically 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.520 like restore the emperor to a power. The emperor has 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.520 been like a puppethead like figurehead guy for like two 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.319 hundred years and they bring him back to power. I 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.960 because I'm a hack of a fraud and a fraud. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:24.120 I'm forgetting their exact slogan. It's it's something like it's 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.240 revere the Emperor, and I ken't what the other part 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.840 of the slogan is. It's very similar to the to 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.640 the box of rebellion slogan. It's it's this sort of 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:33.560 I mean, there's a lot of things going on here. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.199 It's kind of a reaction to so in the in 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.920 the eighteen sixties, like Japan is sort of forcibly opened 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.840 to the world by like Kamadar Perry's showing up with 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.600 a bunch of like the largest gunboats anyone has ever seen. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.800 And this, like this forces Japan to sort of like. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.360 Abandon its isolationist positions and yeah, and you know, and 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.640 you get the sort of classif intellectuals you're looking at 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.239 this and they're going like, Okay, if we don't do something, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.880 like we're gonna get colonized mm hm. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:03.520 And so they do. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.840 And the thing that they do is that they do 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.640 this revolution and they overthrow they overthrow the shogunate. There's 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.720 all this like there's what there's like a trillion anime 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.760 set in this period because there's like that, there's there's 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.240 like like there there are there are squads of samurai 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.880 swordsmen like running around like stabbing each other in Tokyo 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.280 and like Kyoto and like it's it's wild, it is 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.120 it is a it is a time and and this 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.760 sort of this is what sort of consolidates the modern 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.280 Japanese nation state. You know, I've talked about this in 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.440 my Kishi episodes, but like it sets off this wave 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.360 of colonialism. They like they conquer ho Kaido, they conquer 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.120 the Yoku Islands, they do all this horrible colonialism stuff. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:47.240 But there's there's it's really unclear what the revolution is 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.040 actually going to mean because like there has been a revolution, right, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.720 like the the sort of like feutal like class system 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.959 has been swept away. There's all of this sort of 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.600 there's all this this energy in the masses. There's like 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.000 one of one of the things that uh Meshnikov find 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.480 is like he so he gets to Japan in like 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.679 the in like the eighteenth eighteen seventies, and he's seeing 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.959 like the first signs of discontentment with with the sort 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.439 of the major restoration, which is the restoration of the Emperor. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:19.800 Because there's a lot of people who look at this 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.840 and we're like, oh hey, we're gonna we finally like 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 defeated this sort of olive art class that like rules 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.160 all of us. And then there's a new oligart class 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.280 and they're like wait, hold on. And so there's there's 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.120 like there's a series of like ex samurai rebellions. There's 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.480 this whole sort of like like he like uh Mechiakov 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.560 literally like gets there in the middle of an uprising 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.280 and he's just like in the streets and he has 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.520 nobody what's going on because the guy he's been talking 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.000 to winds up being in the uprising, and you know, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.120 so he guess they're But what what he sees also 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.920 is he sees his upheaval, but he sees this enormous 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.839 network of like cooperative movements and he's a bunch of 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.760 mutual aid groups. He sees like villages who are like 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.080 pooling all of their resources, like can send kids to 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.600 like school in this city. He sees like he sees 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.839 the government failing to provide services for people because there's 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.679 an uprising going on, and also with the government and 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.960 so people are sort of people taking care of each other. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:15.000 And this has an enormous influence on him, and he 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.720 starts to, you know, like the way he thinks about 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.480 anarchism changes, and he's he's like, he starts to think 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.360 about sort of like anarchism as cooperation, like mutual cooperation 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.760 between people who like mutual aid enters the sort of 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.720 lexicon And. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:33.440 Okay, so there's a there's a modern historian named. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:40.080 Sho Kooshi who writes this book called anarchist anarchist modernity, cooperatism. Wait, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:45.400 hold on, yeah, anarchist madernity cooperatism and Japanese Russian intellectual 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:50.600 relationship modern Japan. And he makes the argument basically, yeah, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.800 there's there's two there there. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:54.920 It's it's a better title. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.000 Than I'm reading it, because there's there's two. There's like 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.840 a heading and like a subheading straight because I'm But 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.360 he's making the argument that this this is like this 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.360 is actually like something that's very important the development of 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.080 narcro communism because this guy, he knows everyone liked the 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.160 anarchist geographer, Like, uh, at least Ricklouse, I can't pronounce 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:14.520 his name. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.440 I think it's the clue. Yeah, I think so, but 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.680 I can't not with a gun to my head, I'm 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:20.000 not sure. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.040 Yeah anyway, Yeah, like they're roommates, like they're like they 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.880 live together for like a while, and like he he 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.320 he writes the Japan entry and like the encyclopedia, he's 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.840 friends with Krapotkin. And after after his his sort of 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.120 like thoughts starts to change about mutual aid, you start 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.720 to see a lot of the same stuff, like you know, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.080 like this is like he's he's there before Kripatkin writes 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.960 mutual Aid, and then you see you see all the 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:44.960 sort of vitel aid stuff popping up with Krikpotkin, And 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.240 you know, I don't know how seriously to take the 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.200 argument that like you're sort of seeing like that that 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.000 a lot of this theory is sort of a rebound 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.080 of reflection of what they were seeing in Japanese society. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.920 But it's interesting, and I think I should mention it 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.520 because I don't know, like, there's there's this whole sort 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.560 of intellectual sphere of people who were like associated with anarchists, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.000 and the every thing that happens in this period is 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.880 that like so there's a bunch of like Meshnikov like 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.800 has a bunch of friends in Russia who all got 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.840 arrested because they were in like terrorist groups, and he's 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.000 able to get like a whole bunch of these people 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.200 to like he's able to get them like exiled, and 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.320 their exile is they go to Japan, they teach with him, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.080 and so suddenly there's like there's like a bunch of 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.520 people who are now like these populists are like writing 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.840 stories about like the stuff they were doing, and like 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.640 all the people who are still fighting in Russia. So 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.760 there's suddenly there's all these people who are like reading 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:48.480 about the Russian populists in Japan. And and you know, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.480 and this is there's there's this kind of like anarchist 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.960 cultural sphere that exists in Japan. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:59.000 Like before there's anarchists, like anarchists. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.440 Yeah, yeah, for jah anarchists, they'll be like one, like yeah, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.400 there's like a couple of Russian anarchists and like yeah, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.239 but uh like uh Meschakov leaves one. But the other 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.520 big thing with this is Tolstoy, who is like Tolstoi 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.159 in like the eighteen eightyes, eighteen nineties, like early ninete hundreds. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.560 He's like he's the like he I think he's like 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:23.560 the most translated author like on Earth in Japan. And 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.280 it's they're not just reading his like literary work, they're 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.919 reading his like theology, his political work, which is important 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.359 because Tolstoi is like a Christian arco pacifist, right yeah, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.040 And and this influences this there's this kind of like 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.320 there's there's a lot of sort of like left wing 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.639 anti imperial strains of Christianity that pop up in Japan, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.280 and this is one of the reasons for us, because 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.320 everyone's reading Tolstoy and so you get the seeds of 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.679 this anarchist movements that eventually sprout into a man named 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:58.240 uh oh god, this guy's name is actually hard Kotoku Shusi. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.920 I'm butchering the last part of it. I'm sorry. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.720 My Japanese does not extend to this many yous and 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:04.520 eyes in a row. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.800 But Kotaku. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.280 He's an interesting guy. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.080 Because so he doesn't so he has like a whole 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.320 career before it becomes an anarchist. He's he's like he's 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.680 a very premp my journalist intellectual, Like he writes a newspaper. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.280 It's very famous. Everyone reads it. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.000 And he's the heir apparent to this other like very 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.560 famous sort of liberal journalist who again, because lev Metchnikov 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.480 knows literally everyone, was like a friend of Lef Meshnikov. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.560 He just knows every single person on earth. It's incredible, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:37.120 ye know. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.359 That rules, yeah, goals? 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:39.600 You know? 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.720 Yeahs turn if you ever snitched to be terrible apparently 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.840 he never did, so yeah yeah, I mean it's still around, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.520 so I mean he still could snitch. He's still around. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.480 He still ask the chance oh, I guess everyone would 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.600 snitched on his dead so makes it harder the epic 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.439 skip blurry area. Yeah. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.320 So Kotoku is like he's kind of like a standard liberal, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.120 but he gets involved with the anti war movements especifically, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.080 this is the anti uh why it does anti a 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.679 lot of wars because the Japan is fighting an enormous 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.399 series of wars in like the early nineteen hundreds. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.639 Yeah, they kicked Russi's ass at that point. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:24.160 Yeah, yeah, they fight uh Japan, they fight Japan. Sorry, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.680 they fight China. Yeah, and do you know who else 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.560 is fighting China? 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:30.679 I don't know. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.480 I'm afraid to know. The products and services that support 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.679 the show. Are we supported by American nationalism? 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.440 Apparently? Yes, question mark. 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:57.159 And we're back with the first rush, the first actual 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.159 Japanese anarchist. So in nineteen hundred, kotuk who writes this 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.879 book called Imperialism Monster of the twentieth Century, which is 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:11.040 like good, yeah, yeah great, he rules and this certificate 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:12.760 for a number of reasons, one of which is that, like, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.479 this is one of the first major like books about imperialism, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.040 Like there are some other Western writers whose stuff like 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.119 predates this, but like this is nine hundred. This is 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.560 before Lenin has written about imperialism. This is before like Hobson. 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.720 This is before Luxembourg. And I'm just gonna read it 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.040 a little bit from it because it rules. So this 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.840 is from the first section. It's called imperialism of wildfire 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.760 in an open field. Imperialism spreads like a wildfire in 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.480 an open field. All nations bow down to worship this 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.320 new god, sing hymns to praise it, and have created 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.440 a cult to pay it, to pay it adoration. Look 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.879 at the world that surrounds us. In England's both governments 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.520 and citizens have become fervent acolytes of imperialism. In Germany, 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.960 the war loving emperor never loses a chance to extol 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.840 its virtues. As for Russia, the regime has long practiced 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.200 a policy of imperialism. France, Austria, and Italy are all 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.600 delighted to join the fray. Even a young country like 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.040 the United States has recently shown its eagerness to master 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.040 this new skill. And finally, this trend has reached Japan. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.440 Ever since our great victory in this Japanese War, Japanese 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.640 of all classes burned with fervor to join the race 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.560 for an empire like a wild horse freed from its harness. 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.199 So you know, the one thing that he got incorrect is, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.640 as I understand by spending a lot of time on Twitter, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.560 is that actually only the United States is imperialist and 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.679 any actions, especially by Russia. I was very confused that 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.360 he included Russia as the I can't finish the sun, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:43.679 so this great face what Russia would be? Also, how 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.080 could it be imperialism if Lenin hadn't yet defined the 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.480 term for us? Oh this is okay, this is the 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:48.920 whole thing. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.080 Okay, So Kuduko gets like a lot of shit from 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.600 this book, like from later on for Japanese leftst because 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.760 were like he's insufficiently materialist. It's like, yeah, he is 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:58.560 mostly just talking. Like the book's mostly about like how 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:02.040 patriotism and nationalism like create this stuff. It doesn't look 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:06.119 at economics much. But like, okay, there's a whole problem here, 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.200 which is that if you try to apply Lenin's definition 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.919 of imperialism to Japan, it doesn't work because like like 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.400 when Japan is invading China, they have like I think 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:15.920 it's like fifty total factories. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.600 Yeah, like the everything is completely backwards. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:24.080 Yeah, like it's like yeah, and like you know, so 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.760 like like like Lenin's imperialism is supposed to be like 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.560 the highest stage of capitalism, but then you go to Japan, 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:34.120 Japan's like barely started the transition to capitalism. Like if 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.879 Lenin's imperialism is supposed to bet like debt exports, right, 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.440 but Japan is just conquering countries while they're just literally 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.560 like borrowing massively from whether states to funder industrialzations. Everything 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.200 does nothing, None of it works, and koto Ku gets 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.359 like again he has like a lot of shit for this, 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.800 but it's like, no, he's right, like Lenin is wrong. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.720 Like Lenin's analysis if you try to apply Japan does 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.840 not work and codiness does. 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.240 So imagine that. 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:06.600 Yeah, and you know, Cotico, I think like he's keyed 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:10.399 into things that the Marxists aren't, but like specifically about 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.439 like about the power of nationalism, because you know, I 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.240 mean like obviously, if if you go a bit later, 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.359 it's like, well, all of these people who are like, oh, 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.840 imperialism is the highest age of capitalism, and then all 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.400 of their parties vote to go to war with each 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.159 other in will War one, Like you know, okay, Codico, 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.960 I think like gets this because his relationship the socialism 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.919 and anti imperialism are like backwards from the Marxist right 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:36.480 where the Marxists arrive at anti imperialism, like from their Marxism. 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.119 But Coutico like becomes a socialist because he sees it 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.159 as a way to stop wars. Like that's like his 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.879 big thing is he's in the anti war movie and 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.320 he wants his wars to stop, and. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.560 That's the right direction to do shit. Yeah, you should 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:52.000 do shit because like you don't pick the label because 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.679 what's cool. You pick You figure out what you believe, 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:56.320 and then you pick the label that fits what you 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.080 believe instead of the other way around. You know. Yeah, 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.080 and you know, and it means that he's less sort 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:07.840 of like he's less dogmatic than like his successors, because 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.040 you know, I'll make because because he's he's working off 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.840 of his actual principles versus sort of like this like 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.480 dictation stuff. And I mean he's he's he inc you know. 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.359 Three, he publishes The s of Socialism, which is like 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.399 this is like the first like socialist like book written 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:24.959 by Japanese person. It's like one of the I think 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.600 there's maybe like one or two other ones that are before, 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.640 but this is like the first big one and he 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.000 so he's also like he's involved in founding the Japanese 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.480 Socialist Party and then he gets like arrested and sent 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.200 to the US and something happens when he's in the You, 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.760 I don't know, there's I've seen like six conflicting accounts. 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:43.720 Like I've seen accounts that say he joins he joins 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:44.520 the IWW. 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.240 I don't know. I've seen other people say he lived, 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.480 he lived in a commune, Like he definitely read ger Pocket, 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.679 he like becomes an anarchist. Let's decide he did all 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.399 of these things. 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.199 Yeah, lived in a commune and tried to organize the 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760 comedy with the IWW. Yeah, but you know, I mean 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.680 this guy is a normal influential in history of Japanese left. 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.480 Like he is the guy when he comes back in 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.800 nineteen know six, he's the guy who introduces the concept 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.280 of the general strike Japan. 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:09.000 Yeah, like he's. 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.600 The first guy to write about it. 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:11.400 He's very cool. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.560 He also like, yeah, you know, he starts pushing this 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.680 and start this. He starts pushing anarchism as a direct 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.120 action as like I said of like doing parliamentary stuff, 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.359 and he translates like Kropocket's work in the Japanese. He 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.840 translates like the company's manifesto. He does labor organizing. He's 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.320 sort of like all over the place. And you know, 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.200 like labor and the anti war movement are like two 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.639 of the big currents that are adroucing anarchists. But the 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.560 other like big current that's making anarchists period is feminism. 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:43.560 Because okay, so I stop me if this is in 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.960 any way surprising, but the late eighteen hundreds and early 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.920 nineteen hundreds are not a time to be a woman 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:48.600 in Japan. 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.080 Really. Yeah, it's not a good time like anywhere. 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.320 But it's not even now. 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:56.479 It's not the best. 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.040 Yeah, I mean I will be improved. 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.000 I will say it's it's better than this. This is 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:07.600 like sure, like the major regime is sort of like 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.240 consultating self is as is consolidating itself. It gets like 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:15.080 progressively more like patriarchical misogynist. I'm going I'm gonna read 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.919 from the book Reflections on the Way to the Gallows. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:18.960 Which is this is a great book. 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:23.800 It's also a collection of Yeah, well so that's oh god, 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:29.760 I forget one of the Japanese anarchists Who's about to die? 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.840 Like that's the title of like a piece. 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.560 That she wrote. 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:38.439 And this book is like a collection of Japanese feminist writings, 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.400 mostly from people who get killed by the state, because 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.320 that's what happens in your feminist Japan in this period. 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.720 Oh yeah, it's bad. 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.359 All right, Okay, So I'm gonna read the quote from this. 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.360 In eighteen ninety two, the government forbid women to make 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.800 political speeches, and in eighteen ninety mayde it illegal for 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.080 women to participate in political activities whatsoever. Women were forbidden 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.760 to even listen to political speeches. The Police Security Regulations 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.399 of nineteen hundred reinforce these strictures. Article five of the 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.159 regulations prohibited women from forming any political organization whatsoever. 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:10.880 Jesus. 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.919 Yeah, it's like that's like a level of restriction that like, 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.840 I'm not sure I've ever seen like that explicit level 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.280 of no, you can't do this. 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.640 Yeah, I feel like it's usually implicit in a lot 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:26.080 of westerns. 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:26.600 Yeahs. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.760 And then also, like one of the things that really 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.800 strikes sticks out to me about that is that I'm 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.280 so used to thinking about I think people tend to 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.840 think about like this like linear progress model where like 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.040 you go back really far, like all women and all 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.600 other oppressed categories had it terrible and then just slowly 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.359 gets better or whatever. But if they're passing these laws 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.200 in nineteen hundred, there's an implicit it was a little 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:48.480 better before nineteen hundred. 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:53.240 Oh yeah, yeah, it's very specially it's worse. Like so 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.000 one of the things with the eighteen ninety eight legal 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.320 coaches that like it literally just legally enshrines like patriarch 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.840 control the house holds, and this is this is this 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.840 is a massive reactionary shift in in Serve Jeopardese like 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.600 domestic and political culture. Like this is like that that 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.600 kind of patriarchal control of the household was like a 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.080 thing in some Samurai families, but like it wasn't a 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.000 thing for there's a huge number of popular classes like 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.880 just that didn't exist and they just legislated into existence. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:19.240 And like. 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.080 You know, I mean like the things that the things 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.680 that they're applying here, like women need consent of their 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.680 father to marry. It is for this another quote for 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.560 the book, what are the provisions held that quote, cripples 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.840 and disabled persons and wives cannot undertake any legal action. 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.600 Fucking hell uh huh. 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:37.960 Yeah. 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.360 So this is this is this is an incredibly reactionary state. 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.560 And there's also like there's a lot of sex trafficking 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.280 going on, like like actual like there's a lot of 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.160 people just being grabbed off the street. It's a it's 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.640 a it is a disaster, and it is into this 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.720 patriarchal mess that like several generations of Japanese narco feminists 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.440 step into the most famous of the first round is 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:07.440 Connor Asukako, who's she's a socialist author who converts to 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.240 she's originally socialist, and she con vers anarchism, which is 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:11.600 like a thing that happens a lot in this period. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.760 And she she's working as a journalist and you know, 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.080 she she's she's like she's just a very sort of 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.600 controversial figure. The government like hates her. So she meets 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.440 Kotoku and they have an affair. And this is like 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.360 one of the other things that keeps happening here is 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.360 there's a lot of like free love stuff going around 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.840 the Japanese anarchist circle at this time. And this this 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.640 has two consequence is one is a lot of men 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.360 use it to be really shitty and means there is 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.760 like there is a again, this is this is this 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.440 is this is the big like nothing has ever changed 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.760 the anarchist movement. There are so many relationship drama things nothing. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.160 There are so many times this lat circle like like 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.520 there are two different times when the most famous Japanese 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.840 anarchists man and the most famous Japanese anarchist women wind 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:55.680 up in a relationship. 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.000 Uh it ends with it with them explaining the movement 0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.480 and them both dying in prison. 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:04.080 Like this happens twice. Exact sequence happens twice. 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:05.320 It's not. 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.720 Like they're they're just they're just doing pollicule shit, Like 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.280 it's oh, they just the better mediators. 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.760 Yeah, yeah, have that well, And I mean this is 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.840 this is the thing with like the Japanese Like so 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.760 the Japanese anarchist movement like has a huge feminist wing, 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.160 but like the men still. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.720 Suck, like they just keep being bad. 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.959 And so the other thing about this is that uh 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.320 Konosukoko is like enormously more militant than like almost every 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.720 any other anarchists that's alive in Japan at this point. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.480 And so in nineteen ten, she gets involved with the 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.400 plan to assassinate the Emperor and this becomes known as 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.760 the High Treeson incidents, and the state like gets wind 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:56.440 of this. They arrest her, they arrest Kotaku, and they 0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:01.320 arrest like twenty two other twenty two twenty two other anarchists. 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.080 Now like five of these people are like even tangentially 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:13.440 involved in this plot, but they this is okay, So 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:17.280 I can't say that the Japanese government only does this 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.600 to anarchists because they do this to fascist like once. 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.360 But like they do this thing where okay, So they 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.320 have a bunch of people that they want to execute, right, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.640 So they find one person who's like an ideological figure 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.720 and they're like, okay, you're now in the middle of 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.840 this and you're the link between like this group and this. 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.120 Other group want to kill. This other group want to 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:36.240 kill the other group want to kill. 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:45.880 And so they convict uh like Chuosio and kind of Psygaku, 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.440 Like they all get convicted, they all get executed. Yeah, 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.680 and so this case is also interesting because there's a 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.480 bunch of people who the state like wanted to kill 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.360 but they couldn't because they'd already arrested. They'd already they 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.760 like this is like two years after like a mass 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.880 arrest of like half of the Japanese nargist movement. And 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:03.640 so they have all these people who are in prison, 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.160 and it's like even by like the standards of the 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.240 Japanese state, it's like, Okay, how are we going to 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.400 convict all of these people who have been in prison 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.040 for two years of trying to of like being a 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.760 part of this plot to kill the emperor that was 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.280 like organized outside of the jail. And so this this 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.280 is the thing that saves like a huge portion of 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.400 the Japanese anarchist movements, that saves it from literally so 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.000 like this the hydrogen incident kills like most of the 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.080 famous anarchists Japan, but it leaves like like a couple alive. 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.719 And that's why they're alive because they were all in prison. 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.360 Oh god, wait, how are they going to kill the emperor? 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.959 The plant didn't get very far. I think they were 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.040 trying to use a bomb, but the police got wind 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.520 of it like very very early, so they never really 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.880 got much like past. 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.680 The planning stage. This is a shame. 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.080 Yeah yeah, And do you know what else? 0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.560 Never gets very far plast past the planning stage when 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.440 they're trying to assassinate the emperor of Japan? 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.840 Is it the ads because they don't know how to 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.320 do direct action because they're too immeshed in capitalism. 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.240 That is actually exactly what we were talking about, Margaret, 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:28.520 Thank you so much, and we're back. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.800 I was genuinely trying to see if I could like 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.360 think of a company that had like tried to kill 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.560 the Japanese emperor, and I couldn't think of one. And 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.960 I was like, hmm, this says something about society. 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.640 This does. This is a real, real solid critique we 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.080 have here. 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.800 I really hope that ten years from now this all 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.120 seems very dated. You're like, of course someone major company 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.000 has tried to never. 0:33:51.840 --> 0:34:00.000 Mind, one can dream, so kind of Skaku is dead 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.080 is also dead in this This means that it's time 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.200 for sort of like another generation of anarchists to try 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.000 to fill in the gaps. 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.160 Wait, so they're executed. 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.160 Yeah, yeah, they're dead, Like they just die and they kill, 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.480 they kill, they kill like twenty two of the anarchists 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:14.920 or something. 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.560 And I mean this is a this is a huge purge. 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.359 The wind up executing just like there's just like a 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.239 like a sympathetic like Buddhist priest it's executed. 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:29.719 When is this? 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.920 This is nineteen eleven. Sorry, yeah, this is nineteen eleven. 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:37.000 And actually there's another ansty thinking about this kind of 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.000 Sukaku becomes the first woman ever executed by the Japanese state. 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.240 She will not be the last, like oh. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:54.080 Boy feminist diicon, Yeah, I mean equal rights, equal fights. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:35:00.560 There's another like very influential Marco feminist who's emerges lightly after, 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.520 like just like in like nineteen fourteen, nineteen fifteen is 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.920 echo Noah. She's an egoist anarchist who eventually. 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.439 Like, yes, finally, finally we bring it out. 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.400 That's all I have to say about yes, But that's. 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.799 Like almost all I have to say. She she she 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.160 takes over the editorial. 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.920 Position of this this magazine called Bluestocking Magazine, which is 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.880 like Japan's I think she's like, this is like the 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.040 most important feminist magazine in Japan, and she takes over 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.399 the editorial staff about it. And her work is really 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.000 interesting in a lot of ways because it just it 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.960 just straight up is contemporary feminism in a way that 0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.640 like a lot of the stuff on this period isn't 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.440 like if if you go and read the arguments she's 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.279 having she's arguing that sex work should be legal and 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:46.680 that everyone should be able to be able to get 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.960 abortions because women should have autonomy over their bodies. 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.560 Yeah, it's like rule keep winning. 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.840 Well, sometimes this. 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.799 Is not going to end well for her, but you 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.880 know it doesn't end well for any of us on 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.080 a long enough timeline. You know, like all that matters 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.040 is the time of what were this time we are 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.000 gularly bad? 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:14.359 Okay, fine, yeah, so yeah, and I think so she's 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:15.680 able to do this for like a year, and the 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.239 Japanese state looks at this it is like absolutely not 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:23.399 and shuts the magazine down. And so she she gets 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.920 forced to move on to other things. And the other 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.399 thing she moved on she moves on to is being 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.560 extremely heavily involved in the free love movement of course. 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.000 Yeah yeah, and and. 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.640 But also, and this is the thing that that's interesting 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.759 about this sort of period of Japanese anarchism is that 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.000 like the egoists are all also syndicalists. 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.400 And she's so she's like heavily involved in labor organizing, 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.960 and this is how she comes into contact with her partner, 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:54.359 who she's like cheating on her imprisoned husband, who will 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.400 later form the Japanese Communist Party. 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.600 Oh wow, that is that's a lot of stuff happening. 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.520 There's the there's so much there's so much beef. 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:05.120 It's incredible. 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.600 There's there's so this like we haven't even gotten to 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.560 the wild part of this relationship yet. 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:11.719 Okay, which is so so okay. 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.280 So she she comes to contact with her partner pushing 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.560 who will become her partner Osagi Sakai, who is like 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.720 dating another very famous Japanese narco feminist who she stabs 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.920 him in the neck over the fact that he's multiple 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:24.919 relationships at once. 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.560 So this is really a free love situation from her 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.759 point of view. Yeah, this is this is the thing 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:31.560 that keeps happening with. 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:32.480 Free love of this period. 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.200 It's like you gotta like, you gotta lay down, you 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.160 gotta make sure everyone's okay with everything. 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.640 They sure seem to the right things in theory, but 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.600 then they sure, yeah. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.440 Sure do fall apart. Huh isn't that funny? 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.920 Yeah? And this too divides the Japanese. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.040 But did she win, does she succeed? Did she kill 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:54.680 him or did he survive that? Okay, Yeah, I'm just 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.480 I have there's a special place in my heart for 0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.720 split slit throats of patriarch. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:00.840 Yeah. 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:07.040 Anyway, so oh Saki is also very heavily volve in 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.359 labor organizing, and he he's one of the guys who 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.840 like turns anarchist labor into like a serious political force, which. 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.840 Is maybe it's that they survived. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:23.239 Yeah, like it's probably not good. But all of the 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.720 guys in this story like suck excepts. 0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.240 Do I haven't accept here. What about the Korean guy who? 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.400 Oh yeah we got to him. Yeah he's he's I 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.719 kind of like I think he's actually fine. Yeah, I 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.120 think maybe the end of his story gets weird. Yeah, 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.440 well real, we'll get to that in a second. 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.759 But yeah, so Osaya Sakai has like he has he 0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.200 has this like fusion of like egoism and syndicalism, where 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.759 like the individual ego will be liberated through like collective action, 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.319 but the goal of the workers movement is not to 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.560 just like end poverty, it's to like liberate the individual 0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.000 and give themselves developments. And he's also this like incredible 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.480 fierce like like one of his big thing is that 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.880 like he does not want intellectuals anyone your the workers 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:07.759 movements like. 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.080 Does not this so absolutely not. 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.000 Yeah, and this is because like again he's been around 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.239 for ages, Like he becomes an anarchist around the time 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.879 when Kotoku does like that's No. Six, So he's been 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:20.440 like around it. He's one of the guys who survives 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.200 the High Trees an incident because he was already in prison. Okay, 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.800 all right, it's all he like he's one of the 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.719 people who like keeps the sort of flame of anarchism 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.640 alive after like they're Prussian nineteen eleven. But unfortunately for 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.279 him and for Echo Noe, they get caught up in 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.239 the Canto earthquake of nineteen twenty three, which is this 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:43.200 like this earthquake between Yokohama and Tokyo alone kills two 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.680 hundred thousand people. It is like it is like it 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.879 is one of the worst like natural disasters. It's it's 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.520 really bad, and it immediately gets worse. 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.560 The state wouldn't use a natural disaster to try and 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.920 further its aims through extra legal means. 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:04.359 Yeah, So okay, I'm gonna start with one of the 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:08.440 ways that the genocide of Korean people in Japan at 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:12.160 this time starts is so there's a bunch of Korean 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.480 workers in a long stur union that's been organized by 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.240 this built and like leftist union guy named Yamaguchi Sakhaan 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.439 and and Okay, so like they're in this long shot union. 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.920 There's this disaster they start doing virtually, they start going out, 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.600 they start taking care of the vivories, are giving people food, 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.399 but you know, they're like waving red flags and stuff, 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.480 and the Japanese police lose their minds and are like, 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.359 oh my god, they're the Koreans are doing socialism and 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:40.959 they just start killing them. And they there's this whole 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.320 thing about like there's these rumors start to like Koreans 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.359 are raping Japanese women and it turns into this thing 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.720 about like looting, and then like Korean malcontents are supposed 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.600 to be like overrunning police stations and the lynch mobs 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.759 those also are mostly targeting Koreans, but they're also target 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.160 like if you're Chinese, if you're from Buku Islands, like 0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.880 they're killing you. Two they kill two thousand Koreans in 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:06.080 Tokyo and another two thousand in Yokohama, and like two 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.560 thousand Koreans in Yokohama, that is half the Korean population. 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:09.680 Of the city. 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:10.359 Wuck. 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.879 And these people die like horribly, like because and it's 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.919 not just like so that the police are actively hunting 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:21.640 them down. Like the entirety of Japanese society like remembers 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.440 that they really like killing people and they really like fighting, 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.080 and like, I mean, you have people like taking their 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.719 like ceremonial swords from like their ancestors who are in 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.759 the major revolution, Like they're taking their katanas and going 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.360 industry and murdering people with them. Like people just like 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.160 have fish hooks and they're just murdering people in the street. 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.400 And this goes on for like, this goes on for days. 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.600 And one of the things that happens in this is. 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.920 Well, okay, so the one of the other things happens. 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.800 In this period is that the Javanese government just starts 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:54.600 like arresting random leftist and executing them. Yeah, and that's 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.239 what was supposed to happen to knowe to Eato Noe 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.480 and Osaga Sai Kai. But they get arrested by a 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:08.279 squad of military police led by Mashahiko Amakasu who just 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.239 he just murders them. There's like conflicting stories of how 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.880 this happened. There's there's one version of it where like 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.160 he kills them and like their six year old nephew 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.560 and throws their bodies on a well. There's another version 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.480 of it where they get strangled, and that he strangles 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.840 him in prison and this is like a huge outrage, 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.279 but it's not a huge outrage because he murdered them, 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.200 but he huges outrage. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.240 Because he was supposed to wait for the trial. 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:32.000 I mean, and. 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.000 Yeah, and this is one of the things that like 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.920 this is this is part of how like fascism comes 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.319 to Japan, is that like he becomes a hero with 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.000 the fascist right, Like he goes to prison for ten 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.799 years supposedly, but he only serves three and then he 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.160 gets out. He becomes a hero, and then he becomes 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.360 basically the head of like the the sort of fascist 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.920 secret police and the like mencharian puppet state. But on 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.720 the upside, he when when Japan loses to worry, kills himself. 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:02.839 So when I yay with the story I had heard 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.719 was the Throne in the Well story, and I remember it. 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.160 It stuck with me so much because the first time 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:12.400 I met anarchists from Japan. They gave me a zine 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.239 and it was like Japanese anarchist martyrs, you know, like 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.480 the martyrs of our movement or whatever. And I was 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:19.560 like looking through it and were all of these children, 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.799 and it just like really emotionally affected me that I 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.799 was like, oh, y'all's martyrs include all of these like 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.280 not like like literal like like six year olds and stuff, 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.640 because yeah, you know they came and killed not just 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.680 the grown up anarchists but the baby anarchists or whatever 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.720 as well. 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:41.879 I know that must have. 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.000 Happened lots of places, but it just it really stuck 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.880 with me. So whether it's true or not, the story 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.480 I heard was this story about the well and it 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.440 stuck with me. Yeah. I mean, like the level of 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.719 repression in Japan, like. 0:43:56.239 --> 0:44:02.160 It's it's unlike anything I've ever seen that's not in 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:03.960 a country that's literally in the middle of a civil war. 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:04.839 Hm. 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:11.799 Like they just they just like murder people like constantly. Yeah. 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.080 And then this is one of the other things, like 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:14.719 one of the things that starts the right wing like 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.800 turn in Japanese society is when is when the earthquak 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.759 happens and the government is like like they're like the 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.920 police are being like, it's the Koreans. Need to go 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.160 fight the Koreans, and so they do and like I 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.080 mean yeah, like wait, they. 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.760 Like blame the earthquake on the Koreans. 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:31.959 Yeah, well, so everything is there's this fire. The fire 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:36.560 kills like sixty thousand people like it it consumes. They're 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.200 like they're they're the urban core of uh uh what's 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:44.719 the name of the city. Uh, the urban corep of 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.239 Yokohama just goes up in flames, like sixty thousand people 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.520 burn to death, and that's the government needs some explanation 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.120 for it. Yeah, but it's horrible. It's yeah, the government 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.640 needs some explanation for it. They're like, oh, we'll blame 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.319 the Koreans. And then suddenly all of these people are 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.520 just like like the whole Jappan society just goes into 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.400 this total mobilization like kill mode thing and they just 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.080 murder enormous numbers of people and this and like this 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.400 has this normous sort of like like cultural affection, shifting 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.239 people back to the right and shifting people back towards 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.080 militarism because now they've like you know, like they've they've 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.040 tasted blood they've like they've gotten. 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.200 This sort of sense of it in it. Yeah, it 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.120 is brutal. And uh, before we go, we're gonna kill 0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:27.200 off one more anarchist team. Can we kill off the 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.919 other team instead? I? Unfortunately no, none of them die 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.000 in this story. It's the worst. All of the assassination 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:33.680 attempts fail. 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:34.920 It's so sad. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.520 Yeah, I'm sorry, that's all right. 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:43.080 I forgot how depressing this because I was I was 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.800 remembering part two of this, which is this like absolutely hilarious, 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:49.279 kind of pointless like ideological battle over like things that 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.239 are kind of dumb, and then I forgot about the 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.480 first part of the story, which is everyone gets executed. 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:56.400 So the last person who we're talking. 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.640 About he gets executed is is Fumi ko Kanako, who 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.800 is from Ko Kanko. So she she she's a nihilist anarchist, 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:05.960 but she's different from like everyone else we've talked about 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.080 today so far because when she's a kid, she gets 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:13.160 sent to live in Japanese occupied Korea, and so she 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.880 goes there and she gets like horribly abused by her family, 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.600 which leads to become like leads of her becoming a nihilists. 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.279 But it means that like okay, so, like like a 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.319 lot of the anarchists, like in Japan, talk a big 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.239 game about anti imperialism, right, and like they will do 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.360 things like yeah, like they will go fight police to 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.919 try to stop a warf FM mappening, but they don't 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:37.480 really talk to people in Korea very much. And from 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.440 Go Kanico was like the exception to that, because you know, 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:43.640 she she lived there for a long time and she 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.399 she winds up marrying Pak Yol, who is a very 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.160 influential Korean anarchist, and they do a bunch of organizing 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.879 they specifically like that they're their thing is they're trying 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.600 to like get they're trying to like ny the Japanese occupation, 0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.800 and you know, they're doing great work. And then unfortunately 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:04.200 the earthquake, she and pac Yol are and stop me 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.279 if you've heard this one before, They are sentenced to 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.320 death for a supposed plot to kill the emperor. 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.239 Wait now, yeah, we already did this part. You're just repeating, Yeah, yeah, 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:13.640 they do it again. 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:14.960 This is the second time. 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.520 Like they just keep doing this, and this one it's 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.400 unclear if there was actually a plot, and if there 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.080 was a plot, it's unclear to what extent Fumio Kanicoat 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.799 was like involved with it, But while she's getting interrogated. 0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.640 She's like, oh, yeah, no, like I hate the emperor. 0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:30.839 I was absolutely involved in a plot to kill him, 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.399 Like I was making a bomb to kill him. 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.160 Also I'm an anarchist. And here's like an incredibly detailed 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.600 sketch of like all of the oppression in Japanese society. 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.319 And I'm just gonna tell you, like. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.560 The person she's like like the court examiner who's. 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.759 Like and am you know, there's there's an internal thing 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.600 that happens where she and Paciol are like are handed 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.759 pardons as like the sort of like mercy of the 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:55.280 Emperor thing, and Paciol like takes it, but Hugo Kandako 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.080 like they hand her the paper and she tears it 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.880 to shreds in front of them, And it's so in 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.920 embarrassing that like the record of what happened is like 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:04.920 sealed until after World War two. 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.239 Because it was a big like it was like a 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.960 big media scandal, all of the stuff with them being arrested, right, 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.640 And I'm I'm yeah, yeah, I don't actually know more. 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.879 But I watched a movie once there's a great movie 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:18.840 about this called Anarchists from Colony. 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.480 This part of it, yeah. 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.759 Yeah, and she yeah, and like yeah, it's just like 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.840 whole thing. And like the government also kind of doesn't 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.560 want to assassinate them because it looks really bad that. 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.960 I mean, they've they've they've picked they've they've arrested two 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.200 random people who like have done nothing, and they're just 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.120 gonna kill them. But for mechanicals like no, like I 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.480 believe in the things that I believe in, and I 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.719 will literally like tear up this part in and die 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.759 for it. And so she tears out the pardon and 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.160 so she goes to prison, and she lives long enough 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.680 to write like the greatest entry in the genre of 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:55.840 a narcofeminist, a Japanese narcofeminist prison memoirs, which is an 0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.520 entire genre. There's like multiple books because this it keeps 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.400 happening and these people get arrested and set the prison. 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.560 It's called the Prison Memoirs of a Japanese Woman. It's great, 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.000 everyone should go read it. It's it's also shouldn't be 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.879 depressing because her life sucks. 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:10.960 But. 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.640 Yeah, it's it's it's good. 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:15.919 Yeah. 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.319 And so now having killed off the leading intellectuals of 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:23.440 anarchism again for the second time in a generation. You 0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.600 would think that this would this would kill the movement, 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.720 like I think, I think like ninety nine percent of movements, 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.480 Like if if you kill their leading intellectuals, like all 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.080 of them, like twice in like. 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:42.239 Twelve years, like the movement collapses. Yeah. That, but at 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.000 the very beginning there was the guy who said keep 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.960 the intellectuals away from the labor organizing. 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:49.840 Maybe yeah, right, well, but this this is Yeah, the 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.480 incredible thing about this is no, it doesn't it doesn't 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.879 kill them. They keep going like and they have they 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:59.480 have one last glorious, glorious and absolutely baffling hurrah okay 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:05.919 of like infighting, extremely weird and funny infighting. 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