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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, it's Thursday, July twentieth, twenty twenty three. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're preparing to

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Speaker 1: report to training camp. It's me and your man MG.

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Speaker 1: Mark is Grant joined by Michael F. Floria. We are

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Speaker 1: remote today, not in studio as we normally are. We're

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Speaker 1: sort of recording on a different day. We just finished

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Speaker 1: the NFL Media Content Summit. We got to hang out

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Speaker 1: with all the other NFL media on air types and

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Speaker 1: talk about a lot of things. Basically, guys, don't get excited.

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Speaker 1: It's an off site meeting. It was a a lot

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Speaker 1: of nuts and bolts, a lot of sausage making necessary

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Speaker 1: for the company, not exciting to talk about. But Floria,

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Speaker 1: we got to chat with some interesting people. That's a

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Speaker 1: good thing, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's always fun just getting to especially like for me,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that I was big fans

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Speaker 2: humbling experience for me. But that paired with having my

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Speaker 2: them all over the last few days. I was pretty

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Speaker 2: happy that the show was remote today.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, you know, normally we do it on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday. I were doing a little bit differently

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Speaker 1: this week. I had a chance. I was excited, like

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Speaker 1: you said, to talk to a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: I've seen either you know, as players, as coaches on TV.

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Speaker 1: What have you get to talk to them. I did

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Speaker 1: talk to David Shaw, who does a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of draft analysis for us, was the head coach,

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Speaker 1: head football coach at Stanford for a long time. I

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Speaker 1: told him that I was glad he works here because

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Speaker 1: it means he couldn't beat up on the USC anymore,

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Speaker 1: to which his response was the two best things every

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Speaker 1: season were to beat USC and beat Notre Dame. I

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I guess that that makes sense. I

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Speaker 1: can't be mad about that.

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Speaker 2: His best day is your worst day pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But it was a lot of fun to

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Speaker 1: connect with people. Otherwise. Anyway, we got stuff football wise

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Speaker 1: I mean, people are talking about hard knocks and all

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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. So we've got some news headlines.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do another ADP check because I think the

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Speaker 1: last time we sort of looked at ADPs. If I remember,

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Speaker 1: it was like back in late May, so we have

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Speaker 1: comparing best ball ADPs to what we might do with

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Speaker 1: those players in redrafts. And of course Florio's film festival continues.

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Speaker 1: Last week we watched a terrible Michael Bay movie and Armageddon.

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Speaker 1: This week we watched another Michael Bay movie in the

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Speaker 1: Rock that you know, I will wait for Florio's opinion,

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Speaker 1: but at least personally significantly better. Uri mcged significantly more

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Speaker 1: entertaining than Armageddon, So we'll get to that one at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show. But let's start with some

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Speaker 1: news headlines. And the biggest one actually came over this

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Speaker 1: signing a two year, twenty six million dollars deal with

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. So you know, I know, Florio, there

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Speaker 1: was talk that you know, de hop wanted to go

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Speaker 1: the end, he took the bag, not mad at it,

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Speaker 1: has been still one of the top wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: this game. Now in a different situation in Tennessee, what

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Speaker 2: I had him around wide receiver nineteen when he was unsigned,

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Speaker 2: I still think he will be a target vacuum, which

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Speaker 2: But this is a team that has historically under Mike Vapril,

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Speaker 2: But because of the downgrade in offense and in quarterback,

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Speaker 2: I'm not nearly as excited about drafting d Hop as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I sort of chuckled when he said

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Speaker 1: idea of him going to what has traditionally been a

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Speaker 1: So I still think he's a guy who's going to

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Speaker 2: He's never had a season where he's been a high

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Speaker 2: But there was those two years where like he was

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Speaker 2: Like I think banking on a career year a highly

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Speaker 2: think Dihap will get his volume as long as he's

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Speaker 2: the bar for success in fantasy is so much like

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Speaker 2: if a conco gives us eight points per game, will

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Speaker 1: The year, Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair,

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Speaker 1: And I just think I'm sort of with you. I

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about Traylon Burks as the leading

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Speaker 1: So I mean, there it is, We're talking about him

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Speaker 1: Now he's being paired up with a guy who is

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Speaker 1: a as you mentioned, he is a target magnet, right,

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Speaker 1: He's going to absorb so much oxygen in that atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: to be the situation for Chickaconko, you know, like knowing

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Speaker 1: bar for Oconco is a lot lower, and so that

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Speaker 1: rounds and seeing what he has. Right there, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: on him being a high end passer. I know I saw,

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Speaker 1: at least anecdotally on Twitter that the moment Hopkins signed

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Speaker 1: play to draft Ryan Tannehill. Do you feel any differently

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Speaker 2: I think his ceiling is higher now for fantasy purposes.

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Speaker 2: And I tweeted the day that Hopkins signed and at

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Speaker 2: I was like, he's going to be a value, but

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Speaker 2: I said, for as long as he starts. And that's

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Speaker 2: my question. Some people are much higher on the Titans

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Speaker 2: than me, and I think they could win this division and

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Speaker 2: that Tannehill will start most of the season. I kind

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Speaker 2: of view it like they need to be in contention,

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Speaker 2: things need to happen for Tannehill to keep his job. Like,

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Speaker 2: if the Titans are fighting for the division and Tannehill

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Speaker 2: Giants and Raiders go into the season with out there

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00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: starting running backs. If if one of those three are

431
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: starting early in the year, for these teams as like

432
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: a replacement. We would be talking about potentially starting them

433
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: in Fantasy Week one. So I think the there's only

434
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: room for them to go up right now they're ADP

435
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: is probably the lowest that may ever get for these guys.

436
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: So I think it's a complete buying opportunity if you're

437
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: in early drafts.

438
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's true. And I've been drafting Fournette.

439
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: I drafted to talk about Zeke. I drafted him in

440
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: scott Fishbowl expecting that he's going to sign somewhere. I

441
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: guess my big takeaway from it is if Leonard Fournette

442
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: does actually sign in New England, we can stop talking

443
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: about Time Montgomery like that. That conversation has made my

444
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: brain itch, you know, worried about Remandre because Time Montgomery

445
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: is there, and I'm like, is this a new Time

446
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: Montgomery that I'm unfamiliar with or is this the same

447
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: Time Montgomery that you started the positional fantasy Twitter wars

448
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: of like whenever it was like Time Montgomery does not

449
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: scare me about Rimandre Stevens, and Leonard Fournette will probably

450
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: actually get some runs. So if anything, if L four

451
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: signs there, then we don't need to talk about time

452
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: Montgomery anymore. We can just move on from that. Speaking

453
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: of moving on, let's say a look at some ADPs

454
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: right now. Most of the drafts you see our best

455
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: ball drafts, and so that has been sort of what

456
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: the ADP measurements have been. But there is a difference

457
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: between drafting a best ball team and drafting a redraft team.

458
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: And I know we sort of talked about it recently

459
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: and you mentioned one of the big things is stacking

460
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: versus not stacking, maybe trying to differentiate lineups, especially in

461
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: bigger best ball tournaments. It's a little bit different when

462
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about re draft league. So I got a

463
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: handful of running backs, a handful of WIE receivers, give

464
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: you their ADPs. You could tell me if you would

465
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: go higher or lower in a redraft league. And these

466
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: are all based on a certain K nine themed best

467
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: ball sites. Running backs first one, and I went by

468
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: by the way, I went sort of middle round guys, right,

469
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: because the guys at the top, I don't think their

470
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: ADPs change a whole lot. Right, Christian McCaffrey is going

471
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: high in best Ball, he's gonna go high in redraft,

472
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: say with Bijeon, you know those sorts of guys, but

473
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: middle AWD guys. I think there's some variants here. So

474
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: David Montgomery ADP seventy eight and a half RB twenty

475
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: four higher or lower.

476
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: In redraft lower. For me, I have him ranked as

477
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: the RB thirty. It's nothing against David Montgomery. I'm just

478
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: very bullish on Jami Gibbs. I have him as my

479
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: RB twelve. I think he is going to lead this backfield.

480
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get a ton of work

481
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: in the passing game, and if he's getting a bunch

482
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: of volume, I think it hurts David Montgomery and Montgomery.

483
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: I think will Be will be the Jamal Williams role,

484
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: the short yardage guys. He'll probably lead potentially in rushing touchdowns.

485
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: But I just think if you take Jamir Gibbs, knowing

486
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: you already have David Montgomery on the roster, you have big,

487
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: big plans for him. So for me, that's the only

488
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: re that's the difference there. I'm more of a Gibbs

489
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: guy than a Montgomery.

490
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm definitely more of a Gibbs guy. And I think

491
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: when you see that RB twenty four designation for Montgomery.

492
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: It is the possibility of spike weeks coming for him.

493
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go out on a limb and

494
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: say that David Montgomery is not going to have seventeen

495
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns or whatever it was that Jamal Williams had last year.

496
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: You know that that phrase could come back to bite

497
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: me later in the season, but I'll roll with it

498
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: right now. But you know what, there could be weeks

499
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: where he does score too, you know, get a couple

500
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: of short yardage touchdowns, maybe he gets a three short

501
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: yardage touchdown game. He gives you those spike weeks. But

502
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I think the week to week is what you're drafting

503
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: on more likely, when you're talking about redrafts, is going

504
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: to be lower. So I definitely think he's lower there.

505
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco ADP of eighty seven, even RB twenty seven.

506
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from Lawrence Jackson over the NBC

507
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Sports Edge saying he would love to see Dalvin cook

508
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: land in Kansas City, which would completely obliterate Isaiah Pacheco's ADP.

509
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: But for now RB twenty seven higher or lower in

510
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: redraft leagues, I have.

511
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: Him exactly at RB twenty seven. But that being said,

512
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: I never draft him. I've been fading and the internet

513
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: thinks I hate Pachecko because last year we used to

514
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: make fun of him on the show about not being

515
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: very fast but looking like he's doing a whole lot.

516
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: That's not why I dis like Pachecko. I think he's

517
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: gonna be the lead back on the Kansas City Chiefs,

518
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: which is something that we've been chasing for a while.

519
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: But I think that he has one of the least

520
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: valuable roles, Like they're gonna use him between the twenties.

521
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna use him on early downs, put in in

522
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: passing down situations. They're down two minute drills. We know

523
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: that Jack McKinnon is gonna come in. But the thing

524
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: for me is when they get in the red zone,

525
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: they take Pachecko out and they put in Jerick McKinnon

526
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: because it makes the offense more unpredictable. Last season, Patrick

527
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Mahomes broke the record for short yard touchdown passes. Jack

528
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: McKinnon broke the record for most consecutive games with a

529
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: touchdown of receiving touchdown by a running back. Pachecko also

530
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: doesn't have the home run hitting ability, so you're relying

531
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: on a lot of volume for him to get there,

532
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: and if he's not used in the passing game much,

533
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: which he was not at all last year, and then

534
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: he's not guaranteed goal line work either. To me, you're

535
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: looking at a lot of low end RB two weekly

536
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: finishes and the occasional big week and that's just not

537
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: someone I wanted my fantasy roster.

538
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm lower than him at RB twenty seven in redraft leagues.

539
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: I think I'm lower than him at RB twenty seven

540
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: in Best Ball leagues. I just I don't know. I

541
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: just can't get excited about Isaiah Pachecko for a lot

542
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you mentioned. I mean, this was

543
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: a guy that last year in DPR League's average fewer

544
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: than eight fantasy points per game. He averaged fewer points

545
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: per game than James Robinson, right, and we had long

546
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: since discarded James Robinson by the time we got to

547
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So I just I can't.

548
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: And maybe he is the lead back in Kansas City,

549
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: but that does not mean he's going to be the

550
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: only back in Kansas City. You know, we saw what

551
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: happened with Jerick McKinnon late in the year. The fact that,

552
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the Chiefs when they get down near

553
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the goal line seem as likely or more likely to

554
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: throw the football than to run it. If somebody can

555
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: jump in and make a case to get me excited

556
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Pacheco, I'm willing to read it because I

557
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: just I don't have it. I have a heap in

558
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: helping him. Mah when I m Javonte Williams. Obviously, right

559
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: now we're still sort of trying to gauge his return

560
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: from that major knee injury ADP of just over ninety

561
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: the RB twenty eight, So my J. P. Ryan is

562
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: lurking there in Denver. Javonte higher or lower in redraft.

563
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: I have him lower. I have him at RB thirty one,

564
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: and it might just keep declining, like I write it,

565
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Behind him, I have AJ Dillon Khalil Herbert. I could

566
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: be easily convinced to put those two ahead of Javonte Williams.

567
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: I keep saying it, though, Williams is I think the

568
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: player potentially the biggest player that could have the largest

569
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: ADP swing in training camp in preseason, because if he

570
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: looks healthy and people start getting excited the love and

571
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 2: oh my god, remember how good this guy was in college.

572
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: He's a miss tackles force machine, like he'll start to

573
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: get pulled up the board. But I keep being of

574
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: the mindset that I don't think he's going to be

575
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: ready to start this season. Last year, a lot of

576
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: the quotes that he was saying now JK. Dobbins was saying,

577
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: and Dobbins missed the first two weeks and that was

578
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: when he tore his ACL in the preseason. Javonte did

579
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: it in Week four and had a more severe injury.

580
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he starts on the pup

581
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: and we're talking about maybe getting this guy after six

582
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: weeks something like that. I in like very early drafts,

583
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: like post NFL draft, I took a couple of shots

584
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: on Javonte Williams, but recently I have not drafted him

585
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: at all.

586
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I guess I think he goes down in redraft leagues,

587
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: but for me, not a lot like because I still

588
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe I have my blinders on right. I still love

589
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. I still love what he can be, and

590
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I guess it's because of the way that I've been

591
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: drafting him and that you know, in in drafts where

592
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: I have gone maybe Hero RB, or even if I,

593
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, the rare drafts nowadays where I have gone

594
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: with a couple of running backs early, I feel a

595
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: little bit more confident coming back and taking him again. Now,

596
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: if I'm going zero RB, I probably would avoid him

597
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: because I do need somebody that I can feel confidence

598
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: is going to be there early in the season because

599
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: I may have to mix and match running backs. But

600
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: I think I'm just sort of, you know, reminiscing on

601
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: what we wanted him to be and hoping he can

602
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: get back to that again. So for that reason, I'm

603
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: still very much on board with Javonte Williams. But I,

604
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe I'm reaching. Maybe I can be

605
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: accused of reaching. I will accept that accusation if if

606
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: that's what it is, because I'm hopeful to be I'm

607
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: trying to be optimistic here in Washington. Brian Robinson, I

608
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: would say this early in basketball draft season, I was

609
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: sort of taking swings at both of the Commander's running backs,

610
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Robinson and Antonio Gibson. I haven't really done that so

611
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: much lately, but Robinson right now ADP of one eleven

612
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: point seven, almost one twelve. He is the RB thirty seven.

613
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the question is how much did

614
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: you believe in Eric b Enemy and maybe this new

615
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: commander's offense when you're talking about Robinson.

616
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: I believe in b Enemy. I was talking yesterday with

617
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: a couple of people at the summit and I was saying, like,

618
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm high on Terry McLaurin because I think be Enemy

619
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: paired with if Sam Hell is bad, I think we're

620
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: gonna quickly see Jacoby Brissett. And we already saw Brissette

621
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: lift Amari Cooper last year. To watch receiver one territory,

622
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: I could get excited about someone like Terry, who I

623
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: know is very or Dotson, who I know is very,

624
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: very talented. The running backs, It's hard for me to

625
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: get excited for either of them because I could just

626
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: see them cannibalizing each other all year long. I don't

627
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: think either one of them possesses this skill set to

628
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: be a full like every down back. So to me,

629
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a natural committee here. And

630
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: could it be Brian Robinson on early downs and Antonio

631
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Gibson in the passing game. I think so. So. I

632
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: do have Brian Robinson ranked at RB thirty seven. It's

633
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: one of those scenarios where I could easily see him

634
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: finishing higher than that. But like, I have Rashad Penny

635
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: just ahead of him, and I'm like, if I'm gonna

636
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: gamble on a backfield that's a committee, I'm gonna go

637
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: with the one that has the best rushing offense in football.

638
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: So I'll take the shot on Penny over him. I

639
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: have some AJ p Ryan ahead of him, Zach Sharboney,

640
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: these are all names that I think Robinson could easily outscore.

641
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: But I don't know. His ceiling is as high as

642
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: the others, So I'm more of a ceiling drafter and rankers,

643
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: so I kind of I shoot for upside, and I

644
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: think Robinson is more safe floor than he is ceiling.

645
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: I think he's definitely safe floor. I would say for me,

646
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: he probably stays about the same from best ball to redraft.

647
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: I like the opportunity of him. I think he's got

648
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: more touchdown upside, which I think gives him a slight

649
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: edge over Gibson. He's not going to be the pass

650
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: catcher that Gibson is. But my fear is that for

651
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, most of his work's going to be done,

652
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, out in the middle of the field, out

653
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: between the twenties, and he's not going to really score

654
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns, whereas Robinson's that guy that I

655
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: think gets that work near the goal line. I think

656
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: we started to see him sort of pick things up

657
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: at the end of last season. I mean, it was

658
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: obviously incredible that he got on the field as quickly

659
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: as he did last year after being shot at the

660
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, before the season started. So I think he

661
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: hopefully just grows from there. And yeah, I also believe

662
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: in Eric Bienemy. So maybe I drank a little bit

663
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: of that kool aid early in Best Ball season, But

664
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I do think for me, he stays fairly static from

665
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Best Ball to redraft. Last running back the will take

666
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: a quick break devon a chain in Miami. People are

667
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: trying to get excited about him. I do hear some

668
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: sort of drum beats. It's not loud, but it's definitely there.

669
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: ADP of one to eighteen RB thirty nine better or

670
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: worse in redrafts worse.

671
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: I think since he's been drafted, I think the two

672
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: of us have been saying he's a better and best

673
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: ball kind of guy because he's small, like he's my size.

674
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: I actually think I weigh more than he does, which

675
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm not a sizest. But at the running back position,

676
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: he is never going to be an eighteen plus touch

677
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: kind of guy per week. I think he's going to

678
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: be the home run hitter that they like to give

679
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: the ball to on outside carries, and I could see

680
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: him having some monster games where he breaks out really

681
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: long runs because again, he was the fastest running back

682
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: in this year's draft class. But when those home runs

683
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: don't come, I could see this guy giving you something

684
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: like five six fantasy points or something like that. I

685
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: also am fearful that the Dolphins are going to bring

686
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: in another running back, and if that's the case, then

687
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: I think eight Chan's value takes a hit as well.

688
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't have him much lower than where he's going

689
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: right now at thirty nine. I have him at forty three.

690
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: But I definitely think he's a better bet and best

691
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: ball than redraft.

692
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm way down on him. I think I'm just

693
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: generally down on the Dolphins' backs because there are three

694
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: of them, and I think all three of those guys

695
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: are going to get some work. And then, as you mentioned,

696
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: there's still the specter of Dalvin Cook hanging out there

697
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: and him showing up in Miami, which completely wrecks everybody.

698
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: So I just don't know that I'm really excited about

699
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: any Dolphins running backs. And I know they want a

700
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: chain to potentially be the home run hitter, but with

701
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the speed they have, I mean, where he moster can

702
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: do that, Jeff Wilson can do that, and you still

703
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: obviously have to feed Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. So

704
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: I think I'm just out on the Miami backfield sort

705
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: of in general. Take a quick break, we'll come back.

706
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: We will look at a few wide receiver ADPs and

707
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: then talk about Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage trying to stop

708
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: some missiles on Alcatraz. That's coming up next on the

709
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Looking at ADPs in best Ball,

710
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: comparing them to how we're feeling about some of these

711
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: guys in redrafts. Looking at the wide receivers again, kind

712
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: of some middle round guys. Again, the elite guys, we

713
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: know they're going to go high regardless of the format,

714
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: but these mid round guys maybe some questions to them.

715
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: So I got four of them here. The first one

716
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, who has been fairly consistent in his first

717
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: two years, and that's considering they had awful quarterback play

718
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: last year with Matt Ryan adp of just over sixty

719
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: seven Wide receiver thirty four. New quarterback in Indianapolis this year,

720
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: is Michael Pittman going higher or lower? In Redraft?

721
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: I have him ranked exactly at wide receiver thirty four,

722
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: but I think I like him a little bit more

723
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: in best Ball. And it's nothing against Michael Pittman. Like

724
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: I think he's a superb wide receiver. I've been talking

725
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: him up the last couple of years. He's been a

726
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: target of mine. I just this season. As much as

727
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: I love Anthony Richardson, I love him for his rushing ability.

728
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: I think he has the capabilities of becoming a very

729
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 2: good passer in the NFL, you know, make the jump

730
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: like a Justin Fields has Jalen Hurts has. But he

731
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: is raw and there's going to be growing pains in

732
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: his rookie season. So I'm expecting him to play most,

733
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: if not all, of this season, which will probably lead

734
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: to a lot of inconsistencies for their pass catchers. And

735
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: I could see Michael Pittman being inconsistent, which in bestball

736
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: you don't care about because you just want those big weeks,

737
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: But in a redraft league it makes you pull your

738
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: hair out. So I think he'll be one of those

739
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: frustrating players to run.

740
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's sort of how I feel about it too.

741
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he moves a lot either way.

742
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: For me.

743
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the top target in Indianapolis.

744
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: But what exactly does that mean? What kind of passing

745
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: volume does this offense have? You know, I know people

746
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: have sort of tried to get themselves excited about Shane

747
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Steichen as the head coach, seeing what he's done with

748
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the past, But again, I don't I'm looking

749
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: at it. Whereas if Richardson gets us twenty five hundred

750
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: passing yards, that's that's a decent season. Doesn't mean a

751
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: whole lot for the wide receivers considering all the other

752
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: guys you got to feed there besides just Pittman. So

753
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of like, I think it's gonna be

754
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: kind of a mid year for him. I put this

755
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: one on the list specifically for you. Kadarius Tony adp

756
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: just over seventy two, Wide receiver thirty seven. Do you

757
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: dare knock him up the board? Does your love for

758
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: him mean he means he moves up in redrafts or not.

759
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: He goes up. I mean I only have him slightly

760
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: higher than this. I have him at wide receiver thirty six,

761
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: so I'm right in that area. But I think the

762
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: upside is much like he's a player that I will

763
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: reach on a little bit if I have to, because

764
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: I think the upside is sky high. And this is

765
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 2: a quote from someone who I think opinion we should

766
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: take serious on Cadarius Tony. I am extremely excited. He

767
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: has all the talent in the world. He works his

768
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: tail off, like I was talking about with Kelsey. Obviously,

769
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to keep him healthy on the field

770
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: as much as possible because when he's on the field,

771
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: he's a difference maker. The sky is the limit. He

772
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: could be one of the best receivers in the league.

773
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: That was said by Patrick Mahomes. I look, I don't

774
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: need to tell you that Tony on a per route,

775
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: per like when he's on the field, he's been extremely

776
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: efficient at earning targets and picking up yards. He just

777
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to stay healthy, but at at a

778
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: low end wide receiver three calls for potentially the Chiefs

779
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver one playing with my homes and Andy Reid

780
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: and and I know a lot of people, and I'm

781
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: not saying that they're wrong, say like, there's certain things

782
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony can't do yet on the football field. If

783
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to bank on any head coach and play

784
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: caller putting a talent like this in the best possible

785
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: position to succeed time and time again, it's gonna be

786
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Andy Reid. Uh So, And this is an offense that

787
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: last year was built on yak he can do that

788
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: extremely well. Yeah, I'm not backing away from Kadarius Tony

789
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: at all. In fact, I think the hype should be

790
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: higher this year than it was last year. And it's

791
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: at worst he's going right around where he was going

792
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: last year. I actually think it's a little bit later.

793
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm definitely coming back for more.

794
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I want to be I can't. I can't be excited.

795
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: I can't be that, you know, like just because I'm

796
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: looking I'm looking right now at the Chief's depth chart,

797
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: right and don't get it, don't get me wrong. There's

798
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: nobody here that I see outside of Travis Kelsey that's

799
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: just going to dominate targets here. But you know, Tony's

800
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: going to get his sky Moore. I think they're gonna

801
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: try and get him more involved. He was shockingly not

802
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: really involved in a lot last year. They still have

803
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: mvs who you know is what he is. But you

804
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: know he'll get the occasional deep target. It's like, hey,

805
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you run these wind sprints every now

806
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: and then we'll throw you one Rashi Rice. I think

807
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: may get may Get on the field as well. There's

808
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: just a lot of guys that are sort of battling

809
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: for opportunity and so I think for me, Tony is

810
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: one of those guys where the spike weeks will be there.

811
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: But I also think, you know, he'll have one week

812
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: where he gets you, you know, fifteen eighteen points, then

813
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna go through three weeks where it's like, you know,

814
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: five to seven points, And I just think that that's

815
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: going to be the frustrating part. He to me seems

816
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: like the better and best ball guy because the week

817
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: to week scening is pretty high. But I also think

818
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: the floor is is sort of low for him, and

819
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: that's again provided he stays healthy for the majority of

820
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: the season, which so far has not really been his

821
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: thing so much. This is one that I really don't

822
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: know how to gauge, and that's court In Sutton mostly.

823
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to gauge what the Broncos

824
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: offense is going to be. Like there's you know, they're

825
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: coming off a really awful year. We've got a brand

826
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: new head coach and Sean pat who's going to sort

827
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: of revamp everything. I know people love Jerry Judy. It

828
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like people are big on Courtland Sutton wide

829
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: receiver forty eight right now, higher or lower for you

830
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: in redraft a little lower.

831
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: I have him at forty nine, which feels low well,

832
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: and I want to bump him up a bit, but

833
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: then it's always hard because I'm like, I don't love

834
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: him more than these guys that I have ahead of him,

835
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: and he seems like a best ball type of receiver

836
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: who could win downfield. But Jerry Judy is ascending and

837
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: I think he will be their number one option in

838
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: the passing game. Greg Delchik is a threat to take

839
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: targets away so I could see Courtland Sutton being very

840
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: inconsistent week to week, depending on if he catches a

841
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: long ball or not. That being said, it feels like

842
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: last year was the absolute war first case scenario for

843
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: this Broncos offense, and with Sean Payton here, part of

844
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: me thinks I am and us as a fantasy community

845
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: are overlooking the Broncos offense maybe a little bit too much.

846
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I just I keep coming back to just I

847
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, And everybody asked me, I was

848
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. I want them to be

849
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: We all want them to be better because that helps

850
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: us in fantasy if they're better. But I, you know,

851
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: I just I keep saying, I keep asking the question,

852
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: will Russ cook or is Russ cooked? I want to

853
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: think that he's not totally cooked yet, But I just

854
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: don't know. And it does seem like everything's pointing towards

855
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy being that guy, you know. I know there's

856
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: some talk about Marvin Mims, Tim Patrick is coming back

857
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: after missing all of last year with an injury. kJ

858
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Hamler is still floating around for whatever that may mean there.

859
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: So I think I'm sort of down on Courtland Sutton

860
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: as a result of that. So for me, I think

861
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: he'd be lower than wide receiver forty eight in a

862
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: readre because you know, I think when we're talking about

863
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: that part of the draft and looking at wide receivers,

864
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: I want guys that I feel like have upside that

865
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit more confident in, And I

866
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: can't really say that about Courtland Sutton at this point

867
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Last one Jamison Williams, I feel like,

868
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I know where you're gonna go with

869
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: this one. To be both sort of like Jamison Williams

870
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: adp of just over ninety seven wide receiver forty nine

871
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: a higher or lower in redraft.

872
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: He should be hired in Best Ball and higher in redraft.

873
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: I think I have him as my wide receiver forty

874
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: two right now. But before the suspension, I thought this

875
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: kid should have been a fourth round pick in fantasy

876
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: this season. I'm very, very bullish on him. I think

877
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: he is one of the best field stretching tight ends.

878
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: And I have a thread I put out on Twitter

879
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he only had that

880
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 2: one long touchdown last year, but there was numerous times

881
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: where they took shots downfield with him and he got open.

882
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: He did his job. Jared Goff just missed him. So

883
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that there's gonna be even more opportunities for

884
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: him to show off his speed and explosiveness this year.

885
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: And I know people could say, well, he's out the

886
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: first six weeks, so it's gonna be tough to get

887
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: by and stuff. It's easier when you can plan for

888
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: an absence than when a player just gets hurt or

889
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: something like that. And in the first six weeks of

890
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: the season, there's no bye weeks. The first three or

891
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: four weeks, injuries haven't hit as big. So Plus, you're

892
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: drafting him to be a bench player at this point.

893
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: It's not like you're drafting him to be a starter

894
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: and you're losing him or anything like that. And if

895
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: he can be anywhere close to the potential that I

896
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: think he has, he could be a league winner for

897
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: you down the stretch and in the fantasy playoffs. That's

898
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: when I want my roster at full strength. I could

899
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: get by the first six weeks. So I've taken a

900
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: whole lot of chances on Jamison Williams. He might be

901
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: my most drafted player this season.

902
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm one hundred percent with you on this one.

903
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: I think he should be hired pretty much every format,

904
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: you know. I think the upside the ceiling is high

905
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: in an offense that we know is going to throw

906
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: the football. Was very dynamic last year and could use

907
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: a really good compliment to Aman Ross Saint Brown there.

908
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: So I have taken him where I got. It's funny too,

909
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: because I have tried to grab him, and like there

910
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: are other people who I guess are of like mind

911
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: who have gotten to him just a couple of picks

912
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: before I could. So forty nine feels low. I hope

913
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: that number go Actually, I hope that number doesn't go up.

914
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I guess for my sake, I hope it stays where

915
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: it is, but I think it down if anything, Yeah, exactly,

916
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: but I think it will go up. I guess is

917
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: maybe the way the best way to say it right there?

918
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: All right, that was just a handful of ADP checks.

919
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Redraft leagues starting to get going. I think I'm getting

920
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I'm getting notifications for home

921
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: leagues about drafts and that sort of thing. Is getting emails.

922
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: So the season is quickly quickly approaching time for another

923
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: edition of Rios Film Festival. This week, we watched The Rock.

924
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: The quick synopsis, A mild mannered chemist and an ex

925
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: con must lead the counter strike when a rogue group

926
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: of military men led by a renegade general threaten a

927
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: nerve gas attack from Alcatraz against San Francisco. It was

928
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: released June seventh, nineteen ninety six, with a budget of

929
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars, and it grows three hundred and

930
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: thirty five million worldwide. Florio, your your immediate thoughts on

931
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: The Rock.

932
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I liked it, and they're legitimately immediate thoughts because, like

933
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: I said, I have family in town and we've been

934
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: running all over. So I started it last night at

935
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: like ten thirty, and I woke up this morning before

936
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: the show to finish it. Because nineties movies have to

937
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: be two hours long. It's something that we talk about

938
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: all the time.

939
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: I pulled it up and I was like, I looked

940
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: at it, it's like one hundred and thirty seven minutes.

941
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it, Florio, He's.

942
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Right there, every single one. But I really liked it

943
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: movie I I put it. I'll tell you at the

944
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: end where I ranked it. Amongst all the movies we've watched,

945
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: but it was one hundred percent better than the Michael

946
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Bay movie we watched last week, and it's someone like

947
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: I have visited Alcatraz and stuff, so it was cool.

948
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: It was the only thing maybe Michael Bay does this

949
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: on purpose, is I feel like he needs to pick

950
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: characters that you either like or dislike more because the

951
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: whole time I'm like, Okay, so the bad guys are

952
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: marines who have been exploited by the government. I'm on

953
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 2: their side, like, you know, like they are the running

954
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: backs in this situation. So I found myself at times

955
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: being like I kind of want them to come out

956
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: on top. The only thing I I didn't love was

957
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 2: them turning on each other. I was wondering how two

958
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: guys was gonna take out a.

959
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Whole I guess it had to happen of highly trained marines, right, Yeah,

960
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: But overall I.

961
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Thought it was a really good movie.

962
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: It's definitely a lot of fun. Yeah, you're right. How

963
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, Stanley good Speed is a nerdy chemist and

964
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, an old guy who's been locked away in

965
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: federal prison for thirty years or going to take down

966
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Marines. Yeah, I sort of felt

967
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: like at some point they all kind of had to

968
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: turn on each other, especially as the deadline to watch

969
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: the Rockets was coming and General Humble seemed to be

970
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: getting cold feet about it. You know, it just seemed like.

971
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: He didn't want to hurt anyone.

972
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: He didn't want to hurt anyone. It to me was

973
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: a little bit like, uh, you know in Crimson Tide,

974
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: right when Gene Hackman's character is ready to fire the

975
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: missiles and Denzel Washington's like, you can't, and then the

976
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: crew is sort of split because you know which side

977
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: do you do? You go with? It felt it felt

978
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: a little bit like that. And speaking of which, uh,

979
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: one of the notes here, producers Don Simpson and Jerry

980
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Bruckheimer first read the script for this movie while overseeing

981
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: post production on Crimson Tide, So you know, there's that fact.

982
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: There were a lot of tie ins to two things

983
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: we've watched so far this summer. Last week Armageddon, I

984
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: think we mentioned that it was Michael Bay's least favorite film.

985
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: It's the one he hated the most. This is the

986
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: one that he loves the most, the rock So.

987
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: They came out at very similar times. Too write like

988
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: I believe.

989
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: So I think that maybe a year apart something like that,

990
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, because for a while, you know, Michael Bays

991
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: sort of owned the summers. He usually had some big

992
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: budget thing coming out in summers with a whole lot

993
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: of explosions. Did this have enough explosions for you?

994
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: It did not have as many as I thought it

995
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: would because the one thing I know about Michael Bay's explosions,

996
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: and when the thread is like three rockets, I'm like, Okay,

997
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna get a whole bunch of explosions. And there

998
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: was not as many as as I thought there would be.

999
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the quantity of explosions were there, but

1000
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: the quality of explosions were there. They had to chase

1001
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: scene through San Francisco and like a cable car exploded

1002
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: into flames, which look as somebody who grew up in

1003
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: the Bay Area and has seen cable they run out electricity.

1004
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: There's no gas or anything. There's no gas tank on

1005
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: a cable car. So how exactly it burst into flames,

1006
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't really know.

1007
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: The driver was okay, though, driver was okay.

1008
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: Everybody like jumping out of this thing that's moving down

1009
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: a large hill at like high speeds. Seems like everybody

1010
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: was sort of okay in the end. A couple of

1011
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, sort of football related notes. One of the

1012
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: FBI agents in the movie was played by a guy

1013
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: named Dwight Hicks, who was actually a forty nine Ers

1014
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: safety for a number of years in the nineteen eighties.

1015
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: He was in the hotel room helping pull the you know,

1016
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: the FBI director up off off the ledge after he

1017
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: was tossed off, So he was a four four forty

1018
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: nine er. I also loved near the end when one

1019
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: of the rockets fires and like it's headed to Oakland.

1020
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: It's a football game, which means like, wow, they actually

1021
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: bombed the Raiders, which seems terrible, except when they show

1022
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: you the stadium, it is very blatantly Candlestick Park, where

1023
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: the forty Niners played for a number of years. Look,

1024
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: somebody who grew up there went to both of those parks.

1025
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: At least from an overhead shot, Candlestick was much more seenic.

1026
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: It was a terrible stadium. It was an awful, awful

1027
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: stadium to watch games in, but much more scenic from

1028
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the overhead because it's like literally right there on the water,

1029
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: which is I'm sure why they picked that versus Oakland.

1030
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: But it's okay to Fire, like because the whole movie

1031
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: they're like, we cannot let San Francisco get taken, but

1032
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: Oakland is okay.

1033
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: From Fire to Oakland, like, fuck, good luck, Oakland. You're

1034
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: sort of on your own there. I think I did

1035
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 1: remember from actually seeing it the first time in the theater,

1036
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: I still laugh at them setting up a mobile command

1037
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: center at Peer thirty nine, which is like the biggest

1038
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: tourist attract. It would be like, you know if the

1039
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: military or the FBI set up a command center in

1040
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: like Times Square or you know, the Santa Monica Peer

1041
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: or something.

1042
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 2: Peer thirty nine is that like Fisherman's Dwarf or Fisherman' Dwarf.

1043
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like the big you know, shopping and dining.

1044
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like just a major tourist attraction where

1045
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I've been there. Or like, if you're trying to keep

1046
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: this under wraps, because they're like, we can't let this

1047
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: word get out because San Francisco will be an anarchy

1048
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like if you're trying to keep it quiet,

1049
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: you wouldn't clear out Peer thirty nine to set up

1050
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: a mobile command center that to me would be like

1051
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: a big red flag that something major is happening. Other notes,

1052
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: along with Entrapment, which came out in nineteen ninety nine,

1053
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: this was Sean Connery's favorite film of his own during

1054
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. Reportedly, Sean Connery accepted the part of

1055
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Mason after learning that Nicholas Cage had been cast as

1056
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: Stanley good Speed. Which is interesting.

1057
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: Mason has the best memory of all time because right

1058
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: he he was like, I know it once I'm down there.

1059
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: I haven't been down there in forty years or whatever.

1060
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: And then he gets down there and he's like, one

1061
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: hundred paces this way is the shower room. I'm like,

1062
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 2: you remember the exact number of steps.

1063
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he remembered the timing for the fan and

1064
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: fire tunnel that he had to, like, you know, dive

1065
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: through again, like you've been there. You're old now and

1066
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: you remember the timing and can go through it perfectly.

1067
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Schwarzenegger was offered the role of John

1068
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Mason, but at the time the script was only

1069
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: eighty pages quote, with a lot of handwriting and scribbles,

1070
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem fully baked in a redd at Ama.

1071
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: Much later, he stated he regrets not taking the role.

1072
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: It would have been a very different movie. But I

1073
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: I think him being like because Mason is the reason

1074
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: the cage saves the day, Yeah, I think it would

1075
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: have been a little bit more believe if it was

1076
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like that way, you could sort of

1078
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: believe him overpowering these marines, like physically overpowering these guys

1079
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, these were Sean Connery's, like

1080
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: James Bond days were long over by the time this

1081
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: movie was made.

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: He he was noticeably older in this film, but like

1083
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: it didn't stop him at all. And like, yeah, they're like, oh,

1084
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: he's been in prison for forty years or whatever it is,

1085
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: and he just like knows how to work modern guns

1086
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: and stuff. I'm like, this guy kept up with the times.

1087
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, apparently he did. He did a lot

1088
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: because this wasn't you know, the Internet wasn't really a

1089
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: big thing, So I guess he just did a lot

1090
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: of reading while he was in prison. Michael Bay had

1091
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: an idea for a sequel, which involved a now married

1092
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: good Speed and possession of the microfilm. Evidence finds himself

1093
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: pursued by the government, and with nowhere else to turn,

1094
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: he's forced to ask Mason for help. How old would

1095
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Mason be at that point? Yeah, I don't know, but

1096
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: i'd watch that movie.

1097
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: I would as well. Also watching the movie, since everything

1098
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: has to come back to Fast and the Furious, I

1099
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: was like, he did the Fast and the Furious sending

1100
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: by letting did the bad guy go?

1101
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: But this was like more believable than the other ones,

1102
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: Like you can easily be just like yeah, yeah, man,

1103
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: he blew up like he's dead, Like, oh yeah, I

1104
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: buy that. Oh I don't know if you notice this

1105
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: you being the Breaking Bad fan that you are. One

1106
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: of the marines that took over Alcatraz was Tucco.

1107
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: Yes, So watching the movie, I was like, that's that's Touco, right,

1108
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: And then I naturally just started doubting myself. But I'm

1109
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: very happy that you brought that up, because I wasn't

1110
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: going to because I wasn't one hundred percent sure. But

1111
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm almost positive that is young Tuco.

1112
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, you know, And obviously when the movie

1113
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: came out, we were years and years away from Breaking

1114
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Bad being a thing, and I certainly wouldn't have known it.

1115
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Then I watched, like holy crap, and so I, as

1116
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: I tend to do when I'm watching a movie, I

1117
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: went to IMDb and looked it up, and surely enough,

1118
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: Tuco Salamanca was one of the one of the marines there.

1119
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, So I gotta know where are you ranking

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: this amongst the movies we've watched so far?

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00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: So it might seem low, but we've watched thirteen movies already.

1122
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: I put it in the seventh spot. The movies ahead

1123
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: of it or pulp fiction Crimson Tide, which I don't

1124
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: know if anything's going to touch those two. Then I

1125
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: have Speed Point, Break con Air, and Terminator two.

1126
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think that's a fair ranking

1127
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: based on the movies we've watched. Like you know, I

1128
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: think that that is that's appropriate. So I think that

1129
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: works all right. So then, as always, would you willingly

1130
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: watch this movie again?

1131
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: Not only would I, I'm almost positive I'm going to

1132
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: because I want to watch it when there's some less

1133
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: distractions going on around me and I could really.

1134
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, all right, fair enough, I mean, I've seen

1135
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: it a few times, hadn't seen it in a while,

1136
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is certainly way better than Armageddon.

1137
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: It does not drag, it does and really is entertaining.

1138
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: It's Nick Cage, maybe not at his like craziest, but

1139
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: it's still you still get a lot of like, you know,

1140
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: great Nick Cage action. Yeah, it was. It was a

1141
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of fun. We're sort of getting down near the

1142
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: end because training camps are starting and the season is

1143
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: getting us so I don't know how many more of

1144
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: these we can actually do. But next week on the docket,

1145
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: I have the Original Mission Impossible, because I believe is

1146
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: dead reckoning out yet the newest one, Yes, it actually

1147
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: just came out last week, so I felt like it's

1148
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: a good time to go back to where that series started,

1149
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the original Mission Impossible from nineteen ninety six, which I'm

1150
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna say it holds up, but I'm gonna watch it

1151
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: again and we'll find out whether or not it actually

1152
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: does hold.

1153
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: I have never seen a single Mission Impossible, so I'm

1154
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: excited to check this out. But I will say the

1155
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: release of this newest one did not bring nearly as

1156
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: much hype as some of the past ones, So yess

1157
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: that that means what something's.

1158
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: Going on with this, you know, I think here's I

1159
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen all of them. The ones I've seen have

1160
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: been really entertaining and really good. I think this newest

1161
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: one is like the seventh one I think in the series.

1162
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: I have this idea, this theory though, that we should

1163
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: just keep them going, and that Ethan Hunt, the character

1164
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: that Tom Cruise plays, should sort of be like James

1165
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: Bond in that whenever Tom Cruise is done playing Ethan Hunt,

1166
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: we just find a new actor and we just keep

1167
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: making Mission impossibles. I mean, they keep making James Bond movies.

1168
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Why can't we do the same with Mission Impossible movies?

1169
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: Isn't isn't there like another James Bond movie in the

1170
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: works or something like that?

1171
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Probably probably? In fact, if I remember right, I think

1172
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: it's Richard Madden aka what's his name? One of the

1173
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Stark boys from from Game of Thrones. I believe. Oh okay,

1174
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I've.

1175
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: Seen people pitch Idrisalba for it, and I'm currently watching Hijack,

1176
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: his new show, and I'm just like, I would watch

1177
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: this guy do anything.

1178
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that that fell through, that didn't happen,

1179
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know that was very much a conversation,

1180
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: and I actually don't think that they I don't think

1181
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: that they have named the new James Bond, so who knows.

1182
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it is Richard Madden, maybe it's not.

1183
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: Who knows.

1184
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm seeing as we're talking about this. I'm just googling

1185
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: it right now, ranging from names such as Henry Cavill

1186
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: and Tom Hiddleston to Tom Hopper and Jack Louden. I

1187
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 1: don't know those last two. I can't imagine Loki though

1188
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: as a as a James.

1189
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: Bond I have no doubt whoever they picked, the Internet

1190
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: will have polarizing opinions about it.

1191
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: No, the Internet, No, I can't imagine that's going to

1192
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: be the place at all. So all right, submission to

1193
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: possible up for next week. As we continue our film festival,

1194
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: we are getting down near the end as we get

1195
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: closer to the start of the NFL season next week,

1196
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be doing this week a day early, right,

1197
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: are we? We're playing this for Tuesday? Yes, as they

1198
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: do housekeeping here on the air in the middle of

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: our actual podcast. Because of scheduling conflicts this week, we

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: were a day late. Next week will be a day early. Indian.

1201
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: It works out for you, guys. You get two pods

1202
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: a little bit closer together in distance than you normally would,

1203
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: but in the meantime I found to do it. For

1204
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, stay happy,

1205
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the movies, everybody,

1206
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week.