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Speaker 1: little bit later. But first first, Brian dave Ball named
Speaker 1: Jackson Dark QB one for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Here's what dave Ball had to say earlier today on
Speaker 1: the decision.
Speaker 6: So, in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both
Speaker 6: with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and Russ was nothing
Speaker 6: but a pro, which I would expect them to be.
Speaker 5: It's my decision going with Jackson.
Speaker 6: We're gonna get him ready to play this week and
Speaker 6: the remainder of the season.
Speaker 5: He's going to do everything he can.
Speaker 6: Russ will be the backup. The conversations that I've had
Speaker 6: with these young men will be private, the details will
Speaker 6: be private. All I can tell you is we're going
Speaker 6: with Jackson and we're getting ready to play, So I'm
Speaker 6: not going to.
Speaker 5: Add too much to it.
Speaker 6: Those are private conversations. It's my decision, and we're going
Speaker 6: with Jackson.
Speaker 2: O Joe, We're gonna go ahead. Here.
Speaker 1: Russ's okay, okay, here's what Russ had to say about
Speaker 1: the demotion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me add, let me add to me and made,
Speaker 3: let me a made.
Speaker 7: I think that for me, just staying ready, you know,
Speaker 7: knowing what I'm capable.
Speaker 5: Of, Like I said, life is ab response and uh.
Speaker 7: You know, I can control two things, and that's my
Speaker 7: attitude and my gratitude, and you know, I think it's
Speaker 7: the other thing I can controls my work ethic and
Speaker 7: my preparation to be ready when my name's called again,
Speaker 7: because I know what I can do, and I know,
Speaker 7: you know, I know I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 3: So that's that's what I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Chadon just saying I ain't gonna rage Bade, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do no kind of baiting. When I told you guys,
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. You don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: They got even my guy. Even my co host, the
Speaker 1: man been with me for two years. We've been through
Speaker 1: thinket thing. I said, Oh Jo, I say, look at
Speaker 1: the way the man playing Now, I'm telling you what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I say, over under eight weeks, I said,
Speaker 1: Russ is gonna start, Jackson darr is gonna be the
Speaker 1: start to back up, and then James will be the
Speaker 1: thirst string quarterback.
Speaker 2: Nah nahna.
Speaker 1: Everybody everybody was agreeing with you. Oh, I said, oh Jo,
Speaker 1: I can see the way this thing is playing out
Speaker 1: because they drafted this guy. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, the one guy that can save my job
Speaker 1: is not Russ. It's not James Winston. Who's the one
Speaker 1: guy that can save Brian day ball job? Ojo, did
Speaker 1: you hear what you're just said?
Speaker 4: I love that you went that route. Who's the one
Speaker 4: guy that saved my job? The guy that I wanted,
Speaker 4: the guy that I drafted. But you you threw it
Speaker 4: quarterback out. Yeah, right in the middle of the season
Speaker 4: and the worst part of the season for them schedule wise,
Speaker 4: based on the opponents that they have to play. What
Speaker 4: happens when he doesn't play with but here, what happened
Speaker 4: with him don't play with what happened. If you stick
Speaker 4: to your guns and you say, once you make this decision, huh,
Speaker 4: you can't turn back.
Speaker 1: He said, He's the quarterback for the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: for the rest of you, so you can't. You absolutely correct,
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't expect them to turn the back and
Speaker 1: go back.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing to Ojo.
Speaker 1: Even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dark
Speaker 1: comes into the plays, well, somebody else is gonna be
Speaker 1: coaching the next year anyway, So you got you got
Speaker 1: to go with it.
Speaker 4: You was hey, listen, you was going, You was going
Speaker 4: right while going because I'm gonna say, most of the time,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's a quarterback. Listen, Jackson Darty showed flashes
Speaker 4: of braids obviously in the preseason, but again that's preseason.
Speaker 2: You know how.
Speaker 4: The defense is a very very vanilla. I think if
Speaker 4: he plays well enough, if two things can happen. If
Speaker 4: he can play well, you can play bad. If you
Speaker 4: play bad, the ball you got in there. If he
Speaker 4: plays well and shows what we already flashes, what we've
Speaker 4: already seen, hell, you still.
Speaker 3: Might be fired.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 4: If Jason Dark plays well, I think it's gonna buy
Speaker 4: the ball sometimes might be right, I personally, now, this
Speaker 4: is what we know.
Speaker 1: I think we saw he got the job in New
Speaker 1: York because of how world he worked with Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: But we see Josh Allen after he leaves still go
Speaker 1: wins an MVP.
Speaker 2: Okay, he has Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he
Speaker 1: did in New York. So what so so how much
Speaker 1: are we to deduce that that day Ball might not
Speaker 1: be the quarterback whisper that we really thought he was
Speaker 1: Because Josh Allen is still playing at the MVP level.
Speaker 1: He's the MVP front runner as we currently speak. And
Speaker 1: you look at Indiana Jones what he's doing and with
Speaker 1: the Colts, so he I don't like, I said. I
Speaker 1: and Ojo we talked about his Sunday. I said, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: if it's me, I'm gonna start him against the Chargers
Speaker 1: at home. I'm not gonna start him on the road
Speaker 1: in a hostile environment. I'm gonna start it because at
Speaker 1: least it will buy them some time. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: starting him, So I said, I'll start him Sonnay against
Speaker 1: the Chargers and then I'm gonna go from there. But
Speaker 1: I knew this was gonna come sooner rather than later,
Speaker 1: just based on look and it's look, it's never just
Speaker 1: one guy's fault. You can't make twenty two changes, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: you can make what's the one change that I think
Speaker 1: can can significantly impact They believe it's the quarterback position. Now,
Speaker 1: the offensive line is gonna have to play better. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna have to play better. Pick up their plate. You know,
Speaker 1: there are some mistakes that was made on Russ uh
Speaker 1: and I think you know him throwing the ball out
Speaker 1: of the ends on him fourth down, didn't do himself
Speaker 1: any favors, throwing a couple of a couple of uh picks.
Speaker 1: But like you, like you said, oh Joe, it's not
Speaker 1: all on Russ, but the quarterback. They get way too
Speaker 1: much credit and they take way too much blame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I feel I feel bad for us.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for us, But this is what happens
Speaker 4: when you're when you're towards the end of your career
Speaker 4: and you're going from team to team.
Speaker 3: Russ is a great guy. Russ is a great guy.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a professional, he's the ultimate professional.
Speaker 4: At the quarterback he's similar to what if you were,
Speaker 4: if you were to have a comparison to Russell Wilson
Speaker 4: when it comes to the receiver that does everything the
Speaker 4: right way as as a professional, I look at laugh
Speaker 4: as Gerald, you know, when it comes to the right thing,
Speaker 4: every everything. So for Russ you know, I feel bad
Speaker 4: for him. God for man, one of God and children,
Speaker 4: says all the right things, does all the right things.
Speaker 3: He works hard.
Speaker 4: But obviously now it's in Jackson dark team again. I
Speaker 4: told you I I would be I would be in
Speaker 4: New York, right, so I'm going to night. So who
Speaker 4: you who you think? I saw at the at the
Speaker 4: inner Miami game, and I told you I won't see
Speaker 4: him the league neighbors. So we said they have a conversation.
Speaker 4: I noticed the cameras are watching, so they can't read.
Speaker 2: No lifts.
Speaker 4: I say, I'll flip my back and turn to me
Speaker 4: and ask the questions that the questions that's necessary. You know,
Speaker 4: how you feeling things not going well? How do you
Speaker 4: feel about not getting the ball? What do they need
Speaker 4: to do to be able to get you the ball?
Speaker 4: Putting you in different positions? And obviously we had a conversation,
Speaker 4: very lengthy conversation I about thirty minutes, you know, on
Speaker 4: the field, on the pitch before the game started, and
Speaker 4: obviously as any as any receiver fields and once I
Speaker 4: won't say anything verbatim.
Speaker 3: Put me in positions to make the plays. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make them. That's it. Put me throw me the ball.
Speaker 3: That's it. It's it's pretty simple. It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not a complicated.
Speaker 5: Possibly, that's it.
Speaker 4: To make the plays and put the ball in the
Speaker 4: area and the vicinity, if anywhere I can reach it,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna catch it. It was simple as that, simplar
Speaker 4: to that. Obviously some other things, but I can't disclose those.
Speaker 3: But that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. I'm all right.
Speaker 4: And then he of course he say it don't matter
Speaker 4: who's playing quarterback, right, that doesn't matter, not to me.
Speaker 5: I'm him.
Speaker 2: I got to go do my job.
Speaker 1: But in order for me to do my job, I
Speaker 1: need people to put me in position to do my job. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you say, Shaddy, I need you, I need you to
Speaker 1: clean the gutters. Well I'm an clean the gutter, but
Speaker 1: you damn better give me a ladder so I can
Speaker 1: get my ass up there. You can't tell me to
Speaker 1: do something. Joy didn't. Look, if I can win damn
Speaker 1: near any war, if you give me the the artillery
Speaker 1: to go fight, said wars. You want me to go compete,
Speaker 1: Give me opportunities. Put me in position so I can compete.
Speaker 1: And that's all he's saying. He's like, look, yeah, who
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have a top five quarterback? But we
Speaker 1: know there's thirty two teams in every Every quarterback situation
Speaker 1: is different. But what makes those unique is that their
Speaker 1: coordinators put them in position. Jerry got put in position,
Speaker 1: Randy and Chris Carter than the Marvin Harrison and La Fitzgerald,
Speaker 1: all the receivers that have these numbers, the Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: the all pros got put in position. No matter what
Speaker 1: you think about who you offer the coordinator, Ze Brokowski,
Speaker 1: you no Burkouse you was for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Barbause barburaw ya, barbaracause.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a Coyle Shanahan or Sean
Speaker 1: McVeagh or or this or that. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is understand the pieces and move them coparately.
Speaker 3: Hey, you notice what you just said. Understand the pieces
Speaker 3: that you have.
Speaker 4: Understanding your players strengths weaknesses because the coordinators not having
Speaker 4: egos and saying this is my scheme, this is why.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna position and you have to get open based
Speaker 4: on my philosophy, my ideologies, and my scheme.
Speaker 3: The more creative, the more creative coordinator.
Speaker 4: Whoever, the whoever, the goddamn lions off the credit is
Speaker 4: then reads the cows, Well, I know what he's good at.
Speaker 4: I know he's not good at, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: put him in that position for him to get exposed.
Speaker 4: Everybody plays receiver, but everybody can't get open the same.
Speaker 1: Some people you got to stab him. Some people you
Speaker 1: got to move them, some people you gotta put them in.
Speaker 1: Some people it is what it is. See our job
Speaker 1: unless unless, unless.
Speaker 4: Unless you're one of those tier one receivers where all
Speaker 4: the all the what's the world on the left, all
Speaker 4: the things that the makeup of being a great receiver,
Speaker 4: they're really good at all of them. Like Jamar Chases,
Speaker 4: I see Malik Neighbors as a tier one receiver where
Speaker 4: you don't need much creativity. I can get what I
Speaker 4: need to get done off the muscle because I'm like
Speaker 4: that it's only a few of them too. It ain't
Speaker 4: a handful. Oh, it's only a handful. And I'm not
Speaker 4: getting into that because I don't want to piss nobody off.
Speaker 2: But I watched, I watched.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is that when you look at
Speaker 1: these guys is that my job was easy playing for
Speaker 1: Mike because I know Mike's aggressive, so Mike's gonna take
Speaker 1: chances were unnecessarily like some courtin that is gonna play
Speaker 1: it strictly by the book. Mike going for the juggler.
Speaker 1: And I know that he's gonna call plays a quarterly,
Speaker 1: so now I can.
Speaker 2: Do things a quarterly.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Look like I said, quarterbacks take to get a lot
Speaker 1: of credit, far too much, to get far too much blame.
Speaker 2: But I saw I saw this coming.
Speaker 1: I saw this coming when Jackson Dark played Well O
Speaker 1: Shoe and we had our final show. After Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: played well, I said over under, I really wanted to
Speaker 1: say the first quarter the first four games, I was like, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: this kid playing this kid. Unless Russ blows it out
Speaker 1: of the water, there's no way he was gonna hold
Speaker 1: it off.
Speaker 3: Well, hell, he blew it out. He blew out the
Speaker 3: water to dice game. After that is game.
Speaker 4: I thought, oh yeah, he just brought himself some time.
Speaker 4: He brought himself at least three, four, five games. And
Speaker 4: then after that they just played. Oh ah, I mean
Speaker 4: it's the Chiefs. It's a cheese.
Speaker 1: But see if people don't look at the chief if
Speaker 1: we looked at it, if the three years ago chiefs,
Speaker 1: I said, okay, you got a point.
Speaker 2: Oho, you got a point.
Speaker 3: So struggling struggling chiefs, hell.
Speaker 1: Dah and and and I think the first game they
Speaker 1: played the Commanders, look right, he bought he basically he
Speaker 1: bought them. There was hoping, let me tell you, looking
Speaker 1: at it from from my perspective and having my years
Speaker 1: of experience, they were hoping Russ buy them a little
Speaker 1: bit more time. Oh jo, I agree with you, I don't.
Speaker 1: They didn't want him to play this soon. They was
Speaker 1: hoping that. They were hoping Russ could buy them some time,
Speaker 1: at least half a season, give us half a season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at this current pace, Dave Ball wasn't gonna have
Speaker 1: half a season. They're gonna end up they gonna end
Speaker 1: up hiring him. He saw the boy.
Speaker 2: It was just it was it wasn't gonna be.
Speaker 3: This is the thing what I don't like.
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he
Speaker 4: used to be, where he can elevate a team, where
Speaker 4: he's a quarterback that can elevate the team regard regard,
Speaker 4: regardless to the pieces that's around him. Now he's in
Speaker 4: the position as a quarterback who's somewhat still adequate, but
Speaker 4: needs to play around him to elevate.
Speaker 1: Yes, he needs words before O Joe. He can get
Speaker 1: away with less than ideal situations. He didn't need it.
Speaker 1: He didn't need the Great Wall of China to be
Speaker 1: of offensive line. He didn't need he didn't need two
Speaker 1: three four wide receivers on a tight end. He didn't
Speaker 1: need a light south even though he had that in Seattle.
Speaker 1: But now he needs. As we get older, we need more.
Speaker 1: Tom Went got more. Peyton wouldn't got more. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: he need, He needed more. And that's what happens. As
Speaker 1: we get older, we need more help. So now where
Speaker 1: we could elevate everyone else, we need someone to help
Speaker 1: elevate us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think somewhar too. It's not it's not fair.
Speaker 4: You look at the situations in which he went to
Speaker 4: he went, he went to Denverer. I'm not saying Denver.
Speaker 4: There's anything wrong with Denver, but I'm just saying it
Speaker 4: wasn't to me an ideal situation for him.
Speaker 3: Similar to when Peyton Manning went.
Speaker 4: To Denmer, it was a different game, situation different when
Speaker 4: Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was a different
Speaker 4: ball game. I think the situations that he went to
Speaker 4: weren't ideal for him to continue to have set success
Speaker 4: the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson success.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes don't yoe. And this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one
Speaker 1: you don't see. Rust didn't realize whoa.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa. You ain't just go whoa whoa. Oh
Speaker 3: all right there, stay right, Oh what a we.
Speaker 5: Are you cooking?
Speaker 3: Hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 5: I'm using that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one
Speaker 1: you don't see. Russ didn't realize how great of a
Speaker 1: situation he had in Seattle.
Speaker 2: You see, he wanted more.
Speaker 1: He wanted more control, he wanted more input, he wanted
Speaker 1: more of this and more that he goes somewhere, and
Speaker 1: he didn't have he didn't have what he had in Seattle.
Speaker 1: He didn't realize how good he actually had it in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we don't realize just how good we have something
Speaker 1: until it's taken away from us, and then you actually realize. See,
Speaker 1: we take for granted the ability to hear, and the
Speaker 1: ability to smell, and the ability of the taste, or
Speaker 1: have all the uses of our limbs. Then when you
Speaker 1: don't have such, you realize, like, damn, you don't realize
Speaker 1: how how how the hell did I survive without a telephone?
Speaker 2: This loan? Y'all? The hell did they? Ooh?
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine not being able to watch TV. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine not being able to go to a restaurant
Speaker 1: and just want order whatever I want. Right, So he
Speaker 1: had that situation and he wanted more. Now he got
Speaker 1: he got financial security. Oh yeah, are you geral for
Speaker 1: a couple of generations?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. But at the end of the day, we
Speaker 2: haven't thought of we have it.
Speaker 1: Russ really haven't consistently looked like Seattle Russ since he
Speaker 1: left Seattle.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean we understand that we played the game,
Speaker 4: so we understand situations when you change, when you leave
Speaker 4: it when you leave a team like that, that's great
Speaker 4: as they were offensively and especially defensively, you would hope
Speaker 4: and want ideal.
Speaker 3: Situations similar to what you left from, but didn't have.
Speaker 4: Like most of the time, it doesn't happen like that,
Speaker 4: going from going for Peyton Manning, going from Indy and
Speaker 4: then going to Denver already stacked team, super ready team, although.
Speaker 3: Was missing was a quarterback.
Speaker 4: The god damn the Jameis Winston, Tampa and Tom Brady
Speaker 4: coming into a team that is already ready to established.
Speaker 3: We just need a quarter You.
Speaker 1: Have to understand because I was look in Denver, I'm
Speaker 1: very close to because all my people, a lot of
Speaker 1: my people were still there, and I would go back
Speaker 1: and I watched how Peyton ingratiated himself. He was not standoffish,
Speaker 1: took time for everybody. He was Peyton Manning. You do
Speaker 1: realize at the time that he came to Denver, O Joe,
Speaker 1: he was a fourth He was a four.
Speaker 2: Time league MVP.
Speaker 5: Absolutely he was.
Speaker 1: He was already a five or six time First team
Speaker 1: All Pro quarterback. No quarterback has more First Team All pros,
Speaker 1: more MVPs than Peyton Manning. But you wouldn't know that
Speaker 1: by being around him and talking to it. And then
Speaker 1: you watch him in the meeting rooms, and you watch
Speaker 1: him on the practice field, and now you understand. He
Speaker 1: demands that you play at a level and you gotta
Speaker 1: match him.
Speaker 2: You got to.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch
Speaker 1: him and they see him if he's working that hard thing.
Speaker 1: Less is accepted to me. Absolutely everybody. Everybody is. Everybody
Speaker 1: leaves differently. But everybody can't be a great leader. There's
Speaker 1: a You got corporals, and you got lieutenants, and you
Speaker 1: got one star and two star, and three star and
Speaker 1: four star. They don't do five stars generals anymore. They've
Speaker 1: only been five of those in the history of what
Speaker 1: we have the military. But and Russ handled it like
Speaker 1: I thought he would.
Speaker 5: He he's hurt.
Speaker 1: May you take it my job? And I got a
Speaker 1: stand up y'all? Do realize I gotta throw how many
Speaker 1: touchdowns a Russ throwing for?
Speaker 2: Damn? Near four hundred?
Speaker 1: He's got to be well over three. Came in the
Speaker 1: league in twenty third, so this is his fourteenth season.
Speaker 1: So he came in in twenty twelve. He's with RG
Speaker 1: three and Andrew Lock so he's got three d and
Speaker 1: fifty three touchdowns. Remember the guys, you know, got three
Speaker 1: undred fifty three touchdown Stand on the sideline and hold
Speaker 1: the clipboard with the ear head said in the ear
Speaker 1: those start until they don't want to start it until
Speaker 1: it's time for them to lead the league. Look at
Speaker 1: the guys. Look at the guys that have thrown for
Speaker 1: three hundred plus touchdowns. None of them never been never
Speaker 1: got demoted like that. You look at Matt Ryan, you
Speaker 1: look at Ben Roethlisberger, you look at Philip Rivers, John
Speaker 1: l Way, Damn Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: That's eight. I can talk fake up off the top
Speaker 1: of my head. Johnny U Ninus. Now obviously Johnny ended
Speaker 1: up going you know, he didn't do very well when
Speaker 1: he got when he left Indy and ended up going
Speaker 1: to the Chargers.
Speaker 2: But it hurts, and you got to put on a
Speaker 2: brave face.
Speaker 1: You do, yeah, because a lot of times people want
Speaker 1: to see you crack and Russ and Russ and Russ
Speaker 1: is not wired like that. Russey's gonna remain positive and
Speaker 1: I'm happy when he's I'm very happy with the way
Speaker 1: he's handled this whole situation because deep down inside he knew, Ojo,
Speaker 1: you go to a place and they.
Speaker 3: Draft a quarterback, you ready to know what time it is.
Speaker 2: When Tom went to Tamptop, did they take a quarterback
Speaker 2: in the first round?
Speaker 1: No, And so they were just like, hey, t t
Speaker 1: tik tick, and you gotta fight because you know they
Speaker 1: want to play it. That's not that he's not a decoration,
Speaker 1: that's not something that you just prop up. No, they
Speaker 1: wanted to play him. It's not like a situation like
Speaker 1: Alex Smith had. They drafted Patrick Mahons. He knew Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 1: He said, I got one year. There's nothing I can
Speaker 1: do to keep them from playing Patrick Mahomes next year.
Speaker 1: My job is to try to keep them from playing
Speaker 1: his ass this year. And they went eleven and five, boom,
Speaker 1: they lost to get They lost till the Titans.
Speaker 2: Had an eighteen to three lead. They ended up losing.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what Jackson dark got going against the Charger,
Speaker 1: who player as well as anybody in the in the NFL.
Speaker 4: So three and old like, go ahead, I'm still stuck.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: We talked about Jackson Dorky, we talked about Russell Wilson
Speaker 4: and Giants and all that, but I'm still stuck when
Speaker 4: the god damn quote you live with Now, that's when
Speaker 4: I haven't heard before. I didn't heard my grandma, my
Speaker 4: grandfather say all type of stuff. But I'm using that
Speaker 4: the devil, you know, is sometimes.
Speaker 2: Better when you don't.
Speaker 3: This to the pamply God.
Speaker 1: I mean, boy, it's not an easy road that the
Speaker 1: Giants have to go. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: were with the Sunday we went over the schedule. So
Speaker 1: Sunday they play the Giants, excuse me, the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: then they're on the road October fifth at New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They're home on a short week Thursday against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Then they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners,
Speaker 1: at Chicago, home to the Packers, at Detroit, at New England.
Speaker 2: Bye week.
Speaker 3: Hey, but that's tough. Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 4: Real hey, Josh, yo, But hey, let me tell you
Speaker 4: something real quick before we start the show, right, I know,
Speaker 4: before we get serious, I just want to let you
Speaker 4: know who I would have ran you over.
Speaker 1: Nah, you got me, all right. Let's welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Vacuum Safety Josh Mna tell us vikers. Right now you're
Speaker 1: third and takeaways third, and passing defense fourth and pass
Speaker 1: differential sixth in total defense.
Speaker 2: What was it like out there?
Speaker 1: Because it happened in a flurry, you get a pick six,
Speaker 1: you get a strip, a scoop and score, and you
Speaker 1: guys were just taking the ball away and then and
Speaker 1: the offense would go right out there and put seven
Speaker 1: on the board. This seems like damn. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever been a part of something as a
Speaker 1: part of a defense is concerned that where you took
Speaker 1: the ball away and it looked so easy, so effortless
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 5: Nah, I've never been a part of nothing like that.
Speaker 5: Like that was crazy.
Speaker 8: You talk about complimentary football like that was all of
Speaker 8: that and then like to two cs it was crazy
Speaker 8: like it was back to back plays and I almost
Speaker 8: felt like practice like watching it, Like, you know how
Speaker 8: in practice.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa. Don't talk about my team
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 5: Man, No, I'm about to just explain. Let me explain it.
Speaker 8: You know how in practice, when you know coach is
Speaker 8: telling you to do something, you know you doing the individuals. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you practicing and walk through and then now it's practice
Speaker 8: and you're doing the same.
Speaker 5: You know what's coming.
Speaker 8: You know, you're able to do things you ain't able
Speaker 8: to do if you don't know what's coming. And he was,
Speaker 8: you know, we were making plays, especially Isaiah Rodgers obviously
Speaker 8: the man at the hour, he was making plays that.
Speaker 8: It was just like, dang, Like, you don't see plays
Speaker 8: like that unless it's practice.
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 8: Surprised, like he getting this off on the NFL Sunday.
Speaker 8: But no, man, that's the kind of defense we play. Man,
Speaker 8: you never know who's gonna be. But you know, the
Speaker 8: way we play defense and the way we cause havoc,
Speaker 8: you know, anybody bound to have a day like that
Speaker 8: on this defense.
Speaker 4: What hey, now, I'm gonna say listen, I watched that game.
Speaker 4: I was hurt, Josh, I was hurt. Obviously I knew.
Speaker 4: I knew Burrow was out, so I felt good. I
Speaker 4: felt good about Brown and coming in because he's been
Speaker 4: in before when Burrow went down, and you know, he
Speaker 4: did pretty well. But obviously with you guys were able
Speaker 4: to do defensively. I forget the offense. I'm t I
Speaker 4: want to talk about the defense because you you Isaiah
Speaker 4: Rogers that that that front end. Man, you guys were
Speaker 4: all over the place and actually dominated the game for
Speaker 4: all four quarters. I thought at some point, I don't
Speaker 4: even know why I had the belief that we even
Speaker 4: had a chance to win. But what you guys showed
Speaker 4: the other night with Brian Florees, his creativity and what
Speaker 4: he does exotically defensively and having the personnel to be
Speaker 4: able to do some of the things he wants to.
Speaker 3: Do, it was a beautiful sight to see. A beautiful
Speaker 3: sight to see.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, when you can put it all together like that,
Speaker 8: especially on game day.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about it.
Speaker 8: You know, we preach it every week, and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: for us to come and do that, especially after the
Speaker 8: loss in the way you know, we gave up two
Speaker 8: hundred rest of yards a week before, you know, and
Speaker 8: that's not that's not the way we play defense in Minnesota.
Speaker 8: So you know, for us to come back and we
Speaker 8: could practice going hard, head down, grinding, and for us
Speaker 8: to come out Sunday and you know, put that out
Speaker 8: there for everybody to watch, and that's on tape now.
Speaker 5: You know, for the rest of the season. It was special.
Speaker 1: We mentioned I think you guys had five turnovers at
Speaker 1: the half. Isaiah Rodgers, he get a long pick six
Speaker 1: and then he gives a punch out, scoop and score,
Speaker 1: and then he gets it just like and another punch out,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like this is just happening back to
Speaker 1: back to back, and you're about looking like, damn boy,
Speaker 1: what did you all have to eat for breakfast?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy too.
Speaker 8: I walked up to him after one of his players,
Speaker 8: I think it was after the force fumble and he
Speaker 8: picked that up and score, and I like, I grabbed
Speaker 8: his hands. I said, whatever you got, you get some
Speaker 8: of that, and hey, it's long and behold, Lord blessed
Speaker 8: me with right in my lap.
Speaker 5: I said, Okay, he really has something.
Speaker 8: I don't know what he had and what his routine
Speaker 8: was last week, but I've been close to his hit
Speaker 8: this week.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do the same.
Speaker 1: Obviously. You guys go to Doublin. You played the in Ireland.
Speaker 1: You excited about I mean, you know anything about Ireland
Speaker 1: other than hey, UK? I mean, but have you ever
Speaker 1: been Are you excited about playing in Ireland?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 8: We We've done the London thing a couple of times,
Speaker 8: but I've never been to Ireland. Don't know too much
Speaker 8: about the culture. Obviously, I know a little bit. But
Speaker 8: for me, it's gonna be a first something that I
Speaker 8: did want to want to experience sometime in my life,
Speaker 8: you know, just traveling and exploring the world. But yeah,
Speaker 8: it's gonna be a unique experience. Yeah, I'm packing up.
Speaker 8: Just finished doing a little bit of that.
Speaker 2: Man, we had.
Speaker 8: It's crazy, man, so you got to get used to
Speaker 8: that time difference and uh, were actually playing two games
Speaker 8: overseas back to back there, right, Yeah, we're staying over there.
Speaker 8: We head to London on Monday, So it's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be dope.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, I've been to Ireland many times to
Speaker 4: watch watch soccer matches, So I'm not sure how much
Speaker 4: free time you guys do have. Obviously you're going that far.
Speaker 4: But when you go somewhere that far, you obviously want
Speaker 4: to get out and at least venture out some experience
Speaker 4: of culture. I'm not sure how much you know leeway
Speaker 4: and leash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me you guys a bit.
Speaker 5: Huh, we'll get a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you're gonna like it. You're gonna like it.
Speaker 4: I can't I can't see it right now on the
Speaker 4: show on some of the things that you can enjoy
Speaker 4: and do.
Speaker 3: But gonna I'm an text you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna text you.
Speaker 2: Since you go into Ireland, you can't have a pint,
Speaker 2: so you can't do that. So that's all.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you're going to get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do in Ireland, but you probably get something
Speaker 1: to do in London because you guys get you know,
Speaker 1: you leave on Monday, two days your off dates, so
Speaker 1: that probably be the day that you get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go see Big Ben or you know, rip, you
Speaker 1: get an opportunity it get it around the city to
Speaker 1: take it, to take some of that. JJ goes down
Speaker 1: obviously had a great game Game one. It didn't play
Speaker 1: well the first half, but then he comes out plays
Speaker 1: plays like Gangbusters in the second half against Chicago and
Speaker 1: you guys winning that ball game. The second game didn't
Speaker 1: go quite so well. He gets Nick incomes Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: How gratified it is to have a veteran that that
Speaker 1: has won a lot of games in this league, played
Speaker 1: played for a number of years, and you know, like
Speaker 1: you know what, we got to play at our level.
Speaker 1: We got let's make it easy on him. Let's if
Speaker 1: we can get an opportunity to get our hands on
Speaker 1: some balls. Let let's take let's take the football away.
Speaker 1: Let's get a couple of scoop and score. Let's get
Speaker 1: a pick six. Let's do something to make it easy
Speaker 1: so for our team. But you gotta goy, veteran guy,
Speaker 1: what's what was it like watching what he was able
Speaker 1: to do with the opportunities that you guys presented it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it was nice.
Speaker 8: Man. As a defense, when you can uh, you know,
Speaker 8: you can help out the offense. You could play complimentary
Speaker 8: football and you get a vet in there that understands,
Speaker 8: you know, uh, time, time of possession and uh just
Speaker 8: understands how to work the NFL NFL game and the
Speaker 8: ebbs and flows of you know, a football game.
Speaker 5: It's uh, it allows.
Speaker 8: You to play with a different kind of uh, you know,
Speaker 8: hunger and calmness on defense. Obviously, you know, we we
Speaker 8: knew we had to step up, and we know we're
Speaker 8: gonna have to step up moving forward. Just understanding, you know,
Speaker 8: we got a backup quarterback in now and we still
Speaker 8: have a young quarterback when JJ does get back healthy,
Speaker 8: the defense is gonna have to step up big. But
Speaker 8: for to see Carson Wentz come in, man and just
Speaker 8: instantly you know, click back to you know, his his
Speaker 8: prime and it was special.
Speaker 2: You get Jordan Adison back this week.
Speaker 1: So now, hey, people gonna have to pay a game
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you can't double the triple Jetta.
Speaker 1: Now you got to pay attention because Addison a burner,
Speaker 1: can make plays, catch after you know, running catch, get deep.
Speaker 1: Uh what's it going to be like to get this
Speaker 1: addition back to your offense?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 8: Man, it's uh, that's a that's a one on one guy. Man,
Speaker 8: he's a big play explosive. I mean, you talk about
Speaker 8: having two number one wide receivers on your team and
Speaker 8: being able to use what they do well at a
Speaker 8: at a high clip. It's crazy. Man, Ko we had
Speaker 8: both of them at his hand. He can do whatever, man.
Speaker 8: So uh, definitely, you talk about having a quarterback or
Speaker 8: young quarterback or a backup veteran quarterback having a guy
Speaker 8: like that to throw two and eighteen on the other side, Man,
Speaker 8: you really can't go wrong, man, and you hand the
Speaker 8: ball off Jordan Mason Aaron Jones, Hey, man, we that
Speaker 8: looked like a winning offense.
Speaker 1: To me, let me ask you this, bro, how long
Speaker 1: you been how many years you been in the league,
Speaker 1: So you you're the right person to ask. Sit here
Speaker 1: in the league, give me your five toughest defenders that
Speaker 1: you've had to face that your defensive had to face.
Speaker 2: Receiver excuse me, oh receivers.
Speaker 8: Yeahs ooh, five toughest. I would say Jamar Chase has
Speaker 8: been up there just because the attention.
Speaker 5: You gotta uh, you gotta have know where he's at.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you know he's one play and you know
Speaker 8: he could change the whole game. Alma Brown, the Liions,
Speaker 8: we see him twice a year. You know, great scheme,
Speaker 8: but uh, he got great great, he a great play.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I say he's very efficient. He getting in and out.
Speaker 8: He getting in and out man, and he do a
Speaker 8: lot of the dirty work too. Pooka a man twice
Speaker 8: last year he was giving us work.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie he.
Speaker 8: I think he's a pretty good with just being able
Speaker 8: to use being able to use your physical tools but
Speaker 8: still being able to use your agility at the same time, man,
Speaker 8: and uh, being able to produce for your offense. I
Speaker 8: think Pooker does it really well. Obviously Davante Adams.
Speaker 5: I would probably say number one on that list.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you saw him. You saw him twice a year. Yeah,
Speaker 8: coming into the league. He gave my first touchdown. He
Speaker 8: was talking and he was talking cash after. I was like,
Speaker 8: I should have never messed up.
Speaker 5: But uh yeah, yeah, I would say number one on
Speaker 5: that list right now.
Speaker 8: Obviously, besides the guy I go against every day and
Speaker 8: practice is definitely DeVante. Yeah, Jennis, Yeah, Jedas he did
Speaker 8: a different breed man. I don't see I don't see
Speaker 8: him do some crazy stuff. You know, practice, you know,
Speaker 8: you see a different animal.
Speaker 1: And that's what I tell people. You think about what
Speaker 1: they doing in the game, you ought to see them
Speaker 1: in practice. Oh my god, Like that did he just
Speaker 1: did he just do that?
Speaker 8: Off the porch? I'm talking we rookies, we same class
Speaker 8: off the porch. I'm like, you sure this guy in
Speaker 8: the same cz Like.
Speaker 2: Like he killed me?
Speaker 3: You got to think, yo, I was. I was gonna
Speaker 3: ask you.
Speaker 4: Obviously, with the next game coming up, having based on
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you guys have watched film already
Speaker 4: any type of homework. Are there anything coming up in
Speaker 4: this next game that you guys think you have to
Speaker 4: worry about or that you have to be sure of
Speaker 4: to make sure that you don't allow to to ensure
Speaker 4: that you guys played just as we did you did
Speaker 4: against my Bengals. What do you think you have to
Speaker 4: worry about in this this next week's opponent offensive.
Speaker 8: Yeah, For one, when you think about just a Mike
Speaker 8: Tomlin coach team, you think about gritty, very physical, discipline,
Speaker 8: discipline football team, so you know, and then you add
Speaker 8: that with Aaron Rodgers, a twenty one year vet who's
Speaker 8: elite with his passion ability in his football. Like you,
Speaker 8: you know, it's gonna be hard for us to find
Speaker 8: a way for them to make mistakes. So you know,
Speaker 8: on our end, we can't make mistakes. So that's gonna
Speaker 8: be a bit. A big key to the game is
Speaker 8: executing and not giving them easy stuff, not missing missing assignments,
Speaker 8: missing blitzes and messing up coverages, making sure everybody in
Speaker 8: their spots, and executing the game plan because you know,
Speaker 8: those two very experienced people you're going against, and you
Speaker 8: can't afford to give him any anything to keep them
Speaker 8: in the game because once that fourth quarter hit, you know,
Speaker 8: that's when they superpower start to show. But yeah, they're
Speaker 8: very physical team, but we if we take it to them, man,
Speaker 8: from the get go, I think will be in the
Speaker 8: right spot.
Speaker 1: What is the biggest difference between coach Florence and your
Speaker 1: previous defensive coordinator?
Speaker 8: Man, I think for for for me and just getting
Speaker 8: the no flow over these years. I mean I was
Speaker 8: with the other defenseve coordinator for a year, but with
Speaker 8: flow and getting known this over these years, I think
Speaker 8: it's just his ability to understand not only players but
Speaker 8: the game and put those two together, like he understands
Speaker 8: what this defense does well and what each player can
Speaker 8: do in this defense well.
Speaker 5: And it's not yeah, it's not.
Speaker 8: It's not a matter of having a player who's great
Speaker 8: just because you know the stats and the combine says
Speaker 8: is this. It's because he fits this defense and his
Speaker 8: abilities will highlight very well. And it's almost like a receiver.
Speaker 8: You're not gonna put a slid receiver at the X.
Speaker 8: He ain't gonna get open. So you know, he he
Speaker 8: understands how to how to move us around and have
Speaker 8: us do what we like to do really well, but
Speaker 8: still make it look different.
Speaker 9: You see what he said that a Josh if I
Speaker 9: can get offensive coordinators right, the unders staying exactly what
Speaker 9: you just said, they have they have egos.
Speaker 4: They have egos, so they just call the plays and
Speaker 4: expect to put the receivers in certain positions and just.
Speaker 3: Make go, go, make the play, make it work.
Speaker 4: Instead of understanding each player who you got, understanding what
Speaker 4: you got, understanding what they're good at, putting them in
Speaker 4: positions to make plays where it comes to their strengths
Speaker 4: and not the weaknesses, then the game is simplified.
Speaker 3: If you just do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we will even play. We'll even play more
Speaker 8: people than normally. You know, we'll rotate, especially in that
Speaker 8: front seven. We're rotating guys on different persons down the distances,
Speaker 8: whether it's passing downs, rundowns. If you if you could
Speaker 8: play the run, you're gonna be in on rundowns. If
Speaker 8: you can rush the passes, you're gonna be in on
Speaker 8: pass downs, If you could dropping the zones, and then
Speaker 8: we need to you know, it's one of those situations
Speaker 8: you're gonna be in.
Speaker 5: And uh, I think that's the best part about it.
Speaker 8: Man. You never see a guy in our defense doing
Speaker 8: something you don't feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 5: And uh I mean, when you're playing fast and you know.
Speaker 1: You clear head, that makes you got to put guys
Speaker 1: in position to succeed. And like you said, Josh, a
Speaker 1: lot of time, look credit, oh yo week, it's my scheme,
Speaker 1: it's my offense, is my defense. Nah, you build you
Speaker 1: you find, you know what you find the you build
Speaker 1: your scheme around the players you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we sitch I said.
Speaker 8: We switch schemes every year, man, besides our life base,
Speaker 8: go to plays. It's been a different scheme every year, man,
Speaker 8: And it is just because we have different eleven guys
Speaker 8: out there, so you gotta switch it up.
Speaker 4: Damn man, what I wish everybody else thought like that,
Speaker 4: especially the coaches man calling the plays. But Josh, most
Speaker 4: most of the time, I can only attest when I
Speaker 4: was playing no week the week, and I'm just seeing
Speaker 4: some of the complaints that we hear from other players
Speaker 4: on other teams. Yeah, and they want to do what
Speaker 4: they wait and we can only run the route this way, So.
Speaker 3: Obviously you can.
Speaker 4: You you restrict players from having the freedom to do
Speaker 4: what they do best because Okay, I got an ego,
Speaker 4: it's my system. It works to the other place I
Speaker 4: was at. So if I come here, it should work
Speaker 4: here too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look like that.
Speaker 1: If you take an uber at the time, a taxi,
Speaker 1: as long as when he's back foot hit you where
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, I'll give a damn what you
Speaker 1: do to get there.
Speaker 5: That's all that matter. At Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: All of them, it ain't. It ain't got a look.
Speaker 1: They gonna look the same. But I would be when
Speaker 1: the quarterback, I'm gonna be where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, other than other than the weather,
Speaker 1: what's the biggest difference between Miami and Minnesota? Because you
Speaker 1: talk about eighty five to sunny and then you get
Speaker 1: minus twenty and three feet of snow.
Speaker 8: God, weather obviously the biggest difference. I would say just
Speaker 8: the culture.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: You know Miami, you know that's that fast.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, like, it ain't no time to just sit
Speaker 8: back until Man, you sit back your phone ring here
Speaker 8: it's somewhere else.
Speaker 5: It's motion.
Speaker 8: It's something in Minnesota. Man, it's it's really slow motion.
Speaker 2: Commute like it's slow.
Speaker 8: Motion man, very family oriented, uh, you know, very sit back, relaxed.
Speaker 8: I mean when it get cold out here and it
Speaker 8: starts snowing, you ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 5: You ain't want you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to practice at home.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just you know, get home, you know,
Speaker 8: find your hobbies that you like to do, and you
Speaker 8: know do that every day. So I mean, I think
Speaker 8: it's been good for my mentor I mean especially living
Speaker 8: both lives, you know what I mean. I've been in
Speaker 8: Miami my whole life, and then for me to be
Speaker 8: up here now, I think it's definitely good to just
Speaker 8: see both sides and being able for my family to
Speaker 8: see both sides as well.
Speaker 2: I think that's really you have you have you tried
Speaker 2: the Juicy Lucy's.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was one of the first things out did.
Speaker 8: And it's a competition. Yes, so I went to both.
Speaker 8: I went to both.
Speaker 2: You got a favorite.
Speaker 5: Five eight club?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: They do it right.
Speaker 4: Man, that's the one outside of football. What are some
Speaker 4: hobbies some things you like to do that that you're
Speaker 4: passionate about. Let's take my football seasons over. You know,
Speaker 4: it's is where I can find my safe haven and
Speaker 4: I have a passion for this and it's something that
Speaker 4: you enjoy doing that maybe even when you when you're
Speaker 4: done playing, when you retired, long down the road, you'll
Speaker 4: probably get into.
Speaker 8: I just got I just got into bowling, man, and uh,
Speaker 8: I think that's gonna be my golf.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just got into it.
Speaker 3: I just I just bowled three hundred two weeks ago.
Speaker 8: I'm close, man, I'm two seventy eight. Okay, come on
Speaker 8: that let me Hey, we ain't come on.
Speaker 5: You're gonna hear some pins man. Bowling definitely, Man, what's.
Speaker 2: What's side bowling ball? You use it? I gotta be
Speaker 2: specific because.
Speaker 3: What you got?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I know, I I got. I got
Speaker 1: a sixteen, I got a fourteen. I kind of go
Speaker 1: in between.
Speaker 8: Fourteen is my wrists, but yeah, I got I gotta
Speaker 8: go a little bit lot of Yeah, you're part of fifteen.
Speaker 8: That's my like sweet spot. But yeah, man, I've been
Speaker 8: I've been really into bowling. I just uh, I mean,
Speaker 8: I played the piano, uh the past couple off seasons.
Speaker 5: That's been one of my big hobbies. Bacon.
Speaker 8: I just picked up to making bread, doing just just
Speaker 8: doing stuff. And I'm trying to get I'm trying to
Speaker 8: get diverse.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, but I used to cook them things up
Speaker 3: to back in the day.
Speaker 5: You got time, you got that time.
Speaker 4: I used to be in that, you know, I used
Speaker 4: to Yeah, that would me, that would me before football.
Speaker 3: I used to cook them things up.
Speaker 4: You did.
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, not before football.
Speaker 4: Not Hey, I'm just saying when you said when you
Speaker 4: said it baked, like you put back Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah not that.
Speaker 2: So how long how long have you been bowling?
Speaker 8: I would say, what now? Probably now like six months?
Speaker 8: Really I got good fast though, I ain't gonna hell.
Speaker 5: That's how I know. That's how I know.
Speaker 8: That's how Yeah, that's how I know it's gonna stick
Speaker 8: because like you, you know, when you when you touch,
Speaker 8: you're like, oh yeah, this is me.
Speaker 1: Hell, I only bowl a couple of times. Only bowl
Speaker 1: I think my best of like two fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: one something like that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 1: one eight of the two o two something like that.
Speaker 5: That Yeah, that that's me.
Speaker 3: You garbage.
Speaker 5: If I don't get two hundred, that's a bad day.
Speaker 2: Damn. That's what makes it gonna feel bad. Bro. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that, but hey, you.
Speaker 3: It's a hobby.
Speaker 5: You made me feel me, you made me look bad.
Speaker 1: I got no Hey, working my hobby dot joshtyn Hold you.
Speaker 1: That's it, and you do a good job. I appreciate that, man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Me and O Joe, we try to
Speaker 1: get it in, man, we try to get it here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 8: I appreciate what y'all doing, man, especially for the game, man,
Speaker 8: and not even just for the game, and just for
Speaker 8: men in general. Uh, just you know certain standards, you know,
Speaker 8: being the be in the face, being able to just
Speaker 8: show yourself and be yourself no matter what's going on
Speaker 8: in the world and in your life. So I appreciate y'all. Man,
Speaker 8: It's been fun talking to y'all. Man, I can't believe
Speaker 8: I can't.
Speaker 5: I to be honest, I can't talk to you all
Speaker 5: right now. That's crazy late night night. Yeah, talking to
Speaker 5: two goals.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Man.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking time by your schedule to come
Speaker 1: on with us. Man, stay healthy, good luck the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Hey, keep playing that way, man, Hey,
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl might be calling, all Pro might be calling.
Speaker 8: Man, keep it going. It's to goal, man, that's the goal.
Speaker 8: And then to help the team winning. And I'm playing
Speaker 8: good and I gotta help.
Speaker 1: Winning definitely helps. I could assure you that appreciate appreciate
Speaker 1: the man.
Speaker 2: Stay healthy man, good luck down to the rest of the way.
Speaker 2: All right, Broy, that's Josh, But tell us.
Speaker 3: God damn Jo. I'm still mad that man. They killed
Speaker 3: my Bengals.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: Oh shoot Titus, boy, where you've been at? Twin Bro?
Speaker 2: Titus, Bro, you need to go to bed. Baby.
Speaker 3: You can hear me, hear you what they do? Twin
Speaker 3: a Titus if you can hear me? If you if
Speaker 3: you hear me, bar.
Speaker 10: Titus, You're like, what is that talking in my ear?
Speaker 10: That he that's a dog man, Bro, Why don't you
Speaker 10: go to bed? He said, you ain't been home. You
Speaker 10: ain't been home in a week, talking about go to bed.
Speaker 10: I'm not going to bed. Go get a TV go
Speaker 10: to a TV room, Go get on t.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns this
Speaker 1: Dallas on Sunday. I think they're gonna give me a
Speaker 1: good ride of applause. There's no hard feelings there, at
Speaker 1: least from me. It's going to be a great atmosphere.
Speaker 1: When asked about this feeling towards Jerry Jones, not a
Speaker 1: welcome back tribute. There are a lot of things I
Speaker 1: consider disrespectful throughout the process. But I wouldn't say the
Speaker 1: tribute it's one of them. I would say, I just
Speaker 1: think there's hard feelings maybe there for them, but for me,
Speaker 1: I'm happy where I'm at and we got a good
Speaker 1: football team, so I guess I can receive my tribute
Speaker 1: when I win. O Jo, we both returned played against
Speaker 1: our former team we invested so much into. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: tell me all the time. I was just there for
Speaker 1: like a weekend at Baltimore. But uh did you go back?
Speaker 1: You did you play? And since did you play Cincinnati?
Speaker 3: Uh? No, no, I did. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 4: You have to think once I left Cincinnati, I only
Speaker 4: had that right right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was done. I was done.
Speaker 1: Well, they gave me love. I mean when I went
Speaker 1: back to Denver. I went back to Denver the second
Speaker 1: year because first year, oh Joe, we beat them in
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs in the wildcard game.
Speaker 1: So we beat them, and then the following year we
Speaker 1: went back. Crowd cheered every time I caught the ball.
Speaker 1: They introduced the offense. Crowd cheered. I go back. Then
Speaker 1: I go back to Denver and we go to Baltimore
Speaker 1: gave me love both times. So I think the thing
Speaker 1: is is that for me, uh, there was really no
Speaker 1: hostility one or another. If really no protracted contracts and
Speaker 1: going back and forth asking for a trade.
Speaker 2: X Y and z uh.
Speaker 1: But I told you when he laid on that table,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, that ain't a good look though, Yes,
Speaker 1: I told you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The funny thing back, especially when it comes to the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys Cowboys fan base, there's no hostility towards Michael
Speaker 4: Parson because you know, everything was out of his yes,
Speaker 4: everything out of control.
Speaker 3: So everything that.
Speaker 4: Was said and and and in somewhat of an almost
Speaker 4: an unfair way that you don't think an owner would say.
Speaker 4: He can maybe think it, but actually Jerry Jones one
Speaker 4: of one of the few owners who gets away with
Speaker 4: saying the things that other owners think.
Speaker 3: And he said it out loud. He didn't care.
Speaker 4: So if anything, when he does come back to goddamn Dallas,
Speaker 4: there's no reason for the fans to do it at
Speaker 4: or any If anybody's being booed, it is you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I was look, I was in. I
Speaker 2: was endeavored for ten years.
Speaker 1: The first time, Oh Joe and come back and you
Speaker 1: know we had won, you know, back to back Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: I was you know, went to seven consecutive Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: All Pro and all that stuff, and went to one
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in Baltimore. But I think the thing is
Speaker 1: is that the fans really appreciated how hard I worked.
Speaker 1: I didn't complained. I just came to work, showed up,
Speaker 1: did my job, and I left. I had only had
Speaker 1: got along great with my teammates, and I think Michael
Speaker 1: got along.
Speaker 2: Look. I don't know the inner and outs. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I just think the.
Speaker 1: Thing is the last, like the last for two or
Speaker 1: three months, oh show with this contract talk. And you know, look,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, those fans they're Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1: Now you might find a sprinkle here there are Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans. And more times
Speaker 1: than not, you know how fans are fans are gonna
Speaker 1: side with the team.
Speaker 2: That's that's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, you also have something that have common sense
Speaker 4: and understand how things are working. Some understand that business,
Speaker 4: some don't. Some only worried about who is a part
Speaker 4: of my Dallas Cowboy team. That's all came about. But
Speaker 4: then some understand the business and understand how it works
Speaker 4: and able to separate the two being a fan and
Speaker 4: understanding how the team, how the team works.
Speaker 3: Especially when to come down the contract.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they should be used to it anyway, usual anyway
Speaker 4: when it comes to their star players, because they had
Speaker 4: they've had to deal with it for so many years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's just funny going back.
Speaker 1: Standing on the opposite side, staring across over there for
Speaker 1: so for ten years though, jo I still on this
Speaker 1: side looking across the field. Now I'm over I'm across
Speaker 1: the field, staring back across the field.
Speaker 2: And the same thing when I went to Baltimore is different.
Speaker 1: You go in different way, you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Now I'm taking a bus to the stadium. I'm used
Speaker 1: to driving myself to the stadium. So it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. It's gonna be different, and it's
Speaker 1: so new. I mean, he's like only four years in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I mean most people when you leave and go back
Speaker 1: to play another team, it's years and years. You know,
Speaker 1: Peyton Tom played New England. Think about how long Tom
Speaker 1: Tom had played twenty season in New England. He goes back,
Speaker 1: you know, the first year and he played, so we
Speaker 1: get that, but it's like, man, four years, that's really
Speaker 1: damn that's quick. But you don't sometimes don't show you
Speaker 1: don't get that's side of your control. We don't always
Speaker 1: get the control. And look at us an athlete. We
Speaker 1: try to control what we could control because and that's
Speaker 1: what we're good at Ojoe because look, I knew if
Speaker 1: I work my tail off, okay, good thing is going
Speaker 1: to happen. Because I can control that. I can control
Speaker 1: how hard I work. When it comes to things like
Speaker 1: what happened with Michael that was out of his control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And matter of fact, when it comes to
Speaker 4: things that we can control, the one thing that we
Speaker 4: can control we can control our production.
Speaker 3: And what we do and the work we put it.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, if you put the work in,
Speaker 3: the results are.
Speaker 4: Going to show Sundays. Two things we can't control is
Speaker 4: we can't control injuries. You can't control getting older.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: You want to do what you want to do as
Speaker 4: much as you can in between that time and trying
Speaker 4: to ensure you don't get hurt. But once you hit
Speaker 4: like thirty and thirty one the game, start to play
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 3: Listen, once you hit thirty and thirty one, thirty two,
Speaker 3: thirty three, they start playing the games.
Speaker 4: Oh well, your targets start start decreasing, and they start,
Speaker 4: you know, we need to talk to you about your production.
Speaker 3: And man, come on, but I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean tributes normally mad that's for like the best
Speaker 1: of the best. I mean, you won championship here at MVP,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that, you're a defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. You spend some time, I mean
Speaker 1: after four years and look, and this is not a
Speaker 1: knock on Michael. Michael's a phenomenal player, but you don't
Speaker 1: with MM it came back and it came back. He
Speaker 1: was all time lead rush. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If it was an MVP and it was won three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Tom going back to New England, Peyton, going
Speaker 1: back to Dy's, it's levels. I mean of a video tribune.
Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna get a video tribune, even if you
Speaker 1: play ten years, fifteen years of a place. Every I mean,
Speaker 1: it all depends on who you were, what you did.
Speaker 1: If you're a fifteen year special Teams player, you're probably not.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you're Matthew Slater, you'll probably get one. If
Speaker 1: you're Adam Vannittieri Vinitieri, you'll probably get one.
Speaker 2: But but look, if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that.
Speaker 1: Like Michael said, look, we win the game, that's my tribute,
Speaker 1: and I'm coming, you know, he coming. O Joe, you know,
Speaker 1: he's been working on a move. He's like, because well
Speaker 1: we're there on your let me tell you what you
Speaker 1: did when you were going to get your guys in practice.
Speaker 2: You know, if if this was a real game, what
Speaker 2: would happen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice,
Speaker 1: but if I actually played you in a real city a.
Speaker 2: Situation right right right? Brother cooking y'all? Oh yeah for real?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen, you know, I you know, listen one
Speaker 4: thing about it, especially in practice, that them boys made
Speaker 4: me better. I remember all my dv's name by hard.
Speaker 4: Remember Jeff Burns.
Speaker 2: I think you wouldn't know to day, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jeff Burr's.
Speaker 4: Leon Hall Tory, Jane Tory played with me, he played
Speaker 4: with me and differ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, j Joe, Jonathan Joseph. I'm it's some
Speaker 3: more pac Man. Hey, but in practice, oh man, I'm
Speaker 3: about listen. I got mine.
Speaker 4: They got me some time too, But I know who
Speaker 4: got I know who won most of the that, hey boy, with.
Speaker 3: Pac Man, Me and pac Man in practice?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, but it look I won't you took
Speaker 4: about work, but we we was out there working, and
Speaker 4: I won't feedback were working. I'm out there working like
Speaker 4: I'm a seventh round pick on man, Marvin, and you.
Speaker 3: Had they had to throw me out of practice.
Speaker 4: Why the hell is you taking the scout team raps man,
Speaker 4: get out the people way.
Speaker 3: Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get no real work unless I'm going
Speaker 3: against my number ones. They had.
Speaker 4: Let let me tell you how bad it Well, I
Speaker 4: know I'd been playing around a lot, but when it
Speaker 4: came time to play football, I might have been fun
Speaker 4: and talking trash and doing all that entertainment when it
Speaker 4: came to that.
Speaker 3: Game and being a student of the game. I told you.
Speaker 4: But hey, preseason they talked about how many snappers were
Speaker 4: gonna play ship You're gonna call the time out to
Speaker 4: get me out the game. But that but that was
Speaker 4: that was so much fun to me, man, just looking
Speaker 4: at Marvin face when all the ones came out, all
Speaker 4: the ones that come out, and I stand on the
Speaker 4: field and act like it's something wrong with me until
Speaker 4: the second team come in and forced Marvin to call
Speaker 4: the time out. Man, listen, I'm here to play football. Man,
Speaker 4: I ain't worried about no injuries. You mean, I'm don't.
Speaker 4: Don't try to protect me from getting hurt, presets.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: I played football.
Speaker 4: I went through two weeks of training camp, two days,
Speaker 4: and now you're telling me I only get to play
Speaker 4: one one series, one drive.
Speaker 2: No certain that's in a situation like that.
Speaker 1: Michael's gonna look, Michael is gonna say, this is why
Speaker 1: I was worth forty seven million this game. This is
Speaker 1: why the package gave up two first rounders and Kenny
Speaker 1: Clark right and gave me forty seven million dollars. This
Speaker 1: is why, Yeah, you see what I did today, This
Speaker 1: is why.
Speaker 3: Make it make it a stay.
Speaker 4: Absolutely matter of fact, And speaking of forty seven million,
Speaker 4: he gonna show that all season long, especially as they
Speaker 4: continue to work him in and allow him to get
Speaker 4: more reps, allowed to get his.
Speaker 3: Legs up under him.
Speaker 4: You know once he gets in football shape because he
Speaker 4: missed so much time, you know, missing training camp.
Speaker 3: So here we only we we only.
Speaker 1: We we foo yeah four and uh you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take him a while. I mean a couple
Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks from being in in in
Speaker 1: tip top football shape. Yeah right now that you know,
Speaker 1: he's specialist right now. But hey, him and Rashan Garrett
Speaker 1: pretty soon because Rashaun Garrett is tied for the lead
Speaker 1: league in sack.
Speaker 2: Pretty soon they're gonna start.
Speaker 3: We got half, Rashaan got four and a half.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 4: You see what happened when he come on Nightcap. See
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That ain't number God. That ain't number
Speaker 4: of God's work. Everybody, come on Nightcap, have success with Milicia,
Speaker 4: with Melissa Jefferson was left.
Speaker 3: With in Tokyo to what three oh three of them?
Speaker 3: Oh the four one three goals? Everybody come on night
Speaker 3: Cap having.
Speaker 4: Success that that that's it, ain't It ain't a coincidence.
Speaker 2: It is not. You need.
Speaker 4: Hey, tighten tightest, make me paidy, hey, let me let
Speaker 4: me get let me get tightest for a week.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you don't know what. First of all,
Speaker 1: you don't know how to handle it. You ain't been
Speaker 1: around dog, you don't know how to handle them.
Speaker 3: Come on, I done had dog.
Speaker 2: Oho he different?
Speaker 3: No, he good, He's good. I'm I'm a dog. I'm
Speaker 3: a dog, not that kind of dog.
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a dog. I become one with the animal.
Speaker 4: They used to call me the dog whisper back in back.
Speaker 3: In ninety two.
Speaker 2: No, oh, Joe, you are.
Speaker 3: I just want to take him to the dog park
Speaker 3: so he intact.
Speaker 2: I know he attacked.
Speaker 3: He was that man.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you're not supposed to have you can't have
Speaker 2: him there.
Speaker 4: Headed Okay, female, I'm gonna get he'm I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: the homie.
Speaker 2: Some boy people assume you.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that I mean, I got it. It's
Speaker 3: a lady. I know she got a poodle that's in heat.
Speaker 2: He'll be no border with them. Yeah. Telling him said nah,
Speaker 2: he said, we're good. We mighta stay here with dad.