00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're, I guess to my home. You gotta come to be empty, and. 00:00:25 Speaker 2: I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and. 00:00:31 Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gift time of course? Bridge, Why a girl. I hope you're having a nice day. I don't know. Maybe we should all work on our posture to feel like maybe if you're sitting, sit up straight, if you're standing stands straight, or I'm I have terrible posture, so maybe this will putting it out there will correct decades of slouching. I don't know. You know that's well, we're not going to get further into that. Do what you need to do. I want to talk to my guest. I'm so thrilled about my guest today, Mark Prokesch Mark, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:27 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Bridger. 00:01:29 Speaker 3: Mark. I have to say, there are there are a lot of last names in the world, and your last name may be the single most difficult last name to pronounce it. I don't know if I pronounce it correctly. You did, actually, yeah, it's a very I mean, there are a lot of last names where you can kind of break it down and you know, find words that it's similar to or this. Your word has no reference I mean, your last name has no reference point. 00:01:56 Speaker 4: No, and I mean and not even for me, I mean it uh it. I think the closest that I've come to, you know, getting people to pronounce it correctly is to say, it's like brook b ro Okay. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Okay, so like Brooke and then it's then we have this kind of forest. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mostly consonants. It is a name that's in need of vowels. And you know, when I first came to LA my I was meeting with these a bunch of different managers and agents and stuff. And as we halt too when we come to LA and and no, this was like a good year. After I was already on the office. They did not want anything to do with me, but they like one of the first questions I was asked was, you know, what would you think about maybe changing your name, you know. 00:02:58 Speaker 3: Your kid. 00:03:00 Speaker 4: That's such an old thing to happen, which and I said to them, I said, you know, it's not really the nineteen thirties anymore. I don't really feel the need, nor am I going to be playing a lead. You know, Lithario becomes yeah, yeah, Mark Pitt and so yeah, now I just stuck with PROCs and you know, it's it's fine. If galifan Akis can, that's true, succeed with that name, then I certainly can with fewer letters. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: That's very true, Galafanak. But again, Galafanacus at least has some I mean, we start with a word that's just a word in the English language. We've got gal, then we've got if the and then the rest. I mean, it's just a tangle. 00:03:46 Speaker 4: But yeah, in mind, you just have pro pro but that's not that's not how you pronounce it already, so you're off to a bad Yeah, you're you're on the wrong foot already. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: Is where what is the origin of that last name? 00:03:59 Speaker 4: Uh, Austrian? This is that region? 00:04:03 Speaker 3: Did you take German in school or anything? 00:04:05 Speaker 4: No? Okay, Now I didn't. 00:04:07 Speaker 3: Feel like that would have helped me with your last name, and that would have been the one thing I got out of German classes. 00:04:11 Speaker 4: But yeah, I wish other people took them. I did not. 00:04:15 Speaker 3: What did you take? 00:04:16 Speaker 4: I took Spanish? Poorly. Sure, I wish I was better in language. You know, I can't do foreign languages very well. I'm really yeah, And I think I have a bit of a learner's issue. There have that arena. I don't know. I just I love other languages. I'd love to pick them up. I just as hard as I try, I cannot do it. My wife is very good at it, So maybe it's because I rely on her. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: Right, You're just kind of leaning on homily and in a lot of ways. 00:04:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 00:04:53 Speaker 3: Well how are you doing in general? 00:04:54 Speaker 4: You know, I'm okay. I think I'm doing as well as you know, our friends and neighbors, and that's all that can be expected. Gosh, I don't know, like the rest of America, what the hell is happening or what's going to happen. And you just kind of lean into it. And I hope you get a good night's sleep. 00:05:15 Speaker 3: Each night, of course. And are you oh, you know, I'm the same. There's it's very much a day to day thing. 00:05:25 Speaker 5: You know. 00:05:25 Speaker 3: It's just the most insane period of I mean, maybe American history in the last one hundred years. Maybe, Oh, absolutely know. It's a I mean, the things going on right now. Are It just continues to pile up and become more surreal. Seeing the President drive around the block in a suburban. 00:05:46 Speaker 4: It was so cute. I mean, good for him, he got out of the out of the hospital for a little bit. You know. That's nice. 00:05:53 Speaker 3: That's very nice. And I mean by the time this episode is released, who knows what he'll be writing in. Yeah, there's no telling, but the way things are going, it's just a wild world. And I try to just not spin out of control too often, you know, And I think. 00:06:14 Speaker 4: That's as best as you can do. You know, I'm eating more sweets than I usually do. I'm letting myself do that. I'm working out for the first time in a long time, so I'm trying to, you know, reduce my stress levels. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: What kind of sweets are you eating. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Any at all? I have no no boundaries when it comes to sweets. I'll eat anything right now. My wife made some oatmeal chocolate chip cookies that. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: I am wonderful. 00:06:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, and last week it was peanut butter cookies. This is what I Yeah, so I've been and she doesn't really go for sweets that she'll have one maybe, and I, of course line my arteries with the of them. 00:07:00 Speaker 3: She's setting up a trap essentially. 00:07:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a long term plan she has for me. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: And what sort of exercising are you doing? 00:07:09 Speaker 4: You know, we caved and bought a peloton really early back in February. I read the Tea Leaves. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's that was a good move because they were kind of impossible to buy after that, weren't they. 00:07:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently they started selling out with good reason. I mean, people can't go to the gym. Most gyms anyway. I'm sure in Florida you can go to the gym you want. 00:07:34 Speaker 3: In Florida. You can go inside your neighbor's mouth in Florida. 00:07:38 Speaker 4: That's absolutely true. So yeah, So I've been doing the peloton, but I hate the instructor rides. I only do the scenic rides. 00:07:48 Speaker 3: What is so? Is the scenic ride just essentially video of parts of the world. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it makes you. It makes you feel like you've gone somewhere, you know, in a two dimensional way. 00:08:03 Speaker 3: Do you have any favorite places you've seen on your peloton? I do. 00:08:07 Speaker 4: I always do the Sliding Sands National Park. I think it's in Maui or Kawhi One or the other. And that's all I do. I know it by heart. I know when you know I pass this person. So I'm this close to being done. 00:08:23 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: And then I watch TV while I'm riding, so I have two screens going and sometimes I'll have three if I have my phone on me. Yeah, so it's really impressive. My working on this is wonderful. It really centers me. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: And how long are you riding on this imaginary ride? 00:08:42 Speaker 4: Fifteen minutes tops? Okay, but every day? 00:08:46 Speaker 3: And is it pretty intense? Are you like sweating at the end? 00:08:49 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm not going too hard. I have the setting at thirty five for those of you that own a peloton, that's mid to mid high okay, upper middle. And then I keep my you know, my exertion to around one hundred, right, And yeah. 00:09:10 Speaker 3: All these numbers are adding up to nothing for me. But I mean, I'll just believe that you're putting it all in. You're doing everything you can. 00:09:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why you would not believe me. 00:09:21 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm now having a flashback to two hundred years ago of that peloton. At last Christmas, I had forgotten about it. I mean so much has happened since then. But the exactly husband buying his wife the Peloton, well. 00:09:36 Speaker 4: You know, and I did buy it for her because she works out NonStop every day and she wasn't she was no longer able to go to you know, to her exercise do exercise. So I was like, well, I know you will eventually buy it anyway, so let's just buy it now. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:09:58 Speaker 4: So we got lucky with that. 00:09:59 Speaker 3: And essentially Emily is going to record a video thank you to you about her exercise journey, and the commercial is going to be pulled from the air. 00:10:08 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean there'll be I'll be canceled pretty quickly. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: Here. It's coming. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: It is coming. It's coming for all of us. We're all going to be canceled at some point. 00:10:18 Speaker 3: It's just this grim reaper just following all of us. Are you currently in Palm Springs? 00:10:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're hiding out out here. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: You essentially live in the desert. 00:10:29 Speaker 4: We Yeah, we have a place in LA but we have an you know, we go back and forth and we have a person that goes there every day to do stuff and all that. But other than that, yeah, we've been living out here, which is much calmer. Much quieter, much much quieter. But you know, you, even in the quarantine, you get you miss your friends a lot. Of course, of course that part stinks. 00:10:54 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was late July, Jim and I drove to Palm Springs and we had a desperate, desperate need to leave the city to be in any other location. So we made the horrible choice to drive to Palm Springs for lunch. It was probably one hundred and fifteen degrees. We ate in the car. We were just I mean, there were plenty of plenty of signs that this was not a good idea, but we made that decision. Anyway, ended up in at least two fights within like a three hour time period, but we did. We stopped by your house and you, of course famously refused to come outside. It was all over the press. But we saw AMII for a minute from the car, and then you know it was It was a terrible trip, but I'm deeply jealous. You just get to be there for as long as you want. 00:11:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't go outside that much in the when it's in the summer. 00:11:54 Speaker 3: Right, I know, we of you should be in the sun for extended periods of time. 00:11:58 Speaker 4: No and you know, we'll we'll swim at night once the you know, the sun goes behind the mountains, and that's about as much as we were doing during that time. Right now, it's a little better because in the morning it's really nice, and then in the evening it's okay, oh beautiful. But yeah, no it's not. It's not it's inhabitable in any way, shape or form. In the summer, it's wild. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: It's really a wild feeling to be a sort of what are you doing during the day, I mean, whether it's hot outside or not? 00:12:34 Speaker 4: Oh, I am not doing much, Bridger, I have to be honest with you. It's time for me to confess. I am watching a lot of you know, TCM and just sitting on my ass. I don't know what I should be doing. I mean, you know, you come up with ideas for stuff, but then you're like, okay, well when will this ever get sold during the pandemic or when will this ever get made? 00:13:01 Speaker 1: You know? 00:13:01 Speaker 4: And so before I had an excuse because you know, we film this the show I'm on what we do in the Shadows. We'll film that for three months in the fall and winter in Canada, and then afterwards I'm you know, I'm free for the next few months, and I'll do a job here or there, sure, but I always feel like I've earned it. Of course, you feel my sitting around right now. It's peak guilt and peak like you know, fomo for work and I'm yeah, it's awful. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: When did you finish Season two of Shadows? Was it last year? 00:13:42 Speaker 4: Yeah? Last December, so it's been and yeah, and we were we were supposed to be actually, I was supposed to go up this week to read Canada and we've pushed to next next year at the start of the year January February. Assuming that there are no you know, there isn't a huge second wave and in the world. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: Isn't imagine there's some relief to that end. It's also a huge drag. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, I I there's relief in that I'm legitimately scared of this pandemic, of course, you know, the real thing, Yes, exactly, And I feel I feel like there's certain people in Hollywood who don't you know, who just want to film and just get back to normal. As if you just act like it's not there, it's not there. So it was relief that FX and the executive producers all came to the same conclusion. That's wonderful, but yeah, you know, but it's a it's an absolute drag. I mean, it's really fun to film the show, and I'm sure you know. Yeah, So it's I don't know, you know, I think we're all just kind of in a holding pattern. Even if you do have a job right now and you're going to it, it's still a holding pattern because you don't know what the hell's happening. 00:15:01 Speaker 3: Of course, what even the next month could bring. It's crazy. It's absolutely well, the thinking of like new ideas or anything. It feels like you're making dinner to just put in the fridge for later, like maybe someone will eat this, but it'll be slightly stale by the time they get it. 00:15:17 Speaker 4: So it's yeah, And how how much energy do you have right now to you know, to sit down and actually come up with the show and get it ready to pitch and all that. I have none. 00:15:29 Speaker 3: My energy level outside of a pandemic is like negative to So you put me in a pandemic and I'm almost comatosed. It's crazy. 00:15:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're at perry coma level of energy. I know, I've heard that, so of course that's what we want. 00:15:48 Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I don't want to steer us away from anything, but there's something I would like to discuss with you. I you know, I asked you on this podcast, was I would say a generous offer for you to come on this podcast, And I thought we'll just have a wonderful time talking and then move on with our lives. And it's you know, the podcast does have a title, I said, no gifts, which is also a rule in a direction. And so I was a little surprised when I received something from you and the mail it was addressed to me and it was, you know, a small package it said to Richard Weininger from Mark Proks. And you know, I don't want to it's actually in this bag that says the happy couple, which I don't know if you bought it or if I bought it. It doesn't matter who placed the gift in this bag. 00:16:38 Speaker 4: Kind of matters. 00:16:39 Speaker 3: But keep going, Marcus, is this gift for me? 00:16:43 Speaker 4: You know? I know it says, you know, no gifts. It's not really a gift. I mean, it's it was more of yes, it's a gift, but not because of the podcast. Oh, it is just coincided. Well, it just coincided around the same time. I think you're taking it. Yeah, I think you're taking it the wrong way. Well, this is making conclusions, yeah, which I've heard. You know, I listened to the podcast you do on occasion, and you know, so it's I was ready for this and so. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, should I do you want me to open it here on the podcast or should I wait till a later date. 00:17:22 Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, I thought you would have opened it when it arrived because it has nothing to do with the podcast. I've had nothing to do with this. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: I've kind of just been simmering in my anger and I put it in the closet. I didn't want to look at it, but I thought, well, while he's here, we'll discuss. So maybe I will just open it in front of you and we'll see what. Okay, it's okay. 00:17:43 Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm not going to talk about it because it has nothing to do with this podcast. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: That's fine, I'll find something else to talk about it. Let's see here. So it's in an envelope here, we'll open this up. So it seems to be it's a book that I Have to Imagine is self published called The Shimmering Sea. Robin Williams Murder by Gabriella Chaana, one of our one of America's authors, would say, yeah, she's an author. Yes, she's more than an author. I would say, just glancing at this book first impressions, this person's a legend. 00:18:35 Speaker 4: She's a legend in my household. Gabriel Chana Gabrielle Chana is her nom de plume. Her real name is Gail coord Schuler and you can find Gail on YouTube and I highly recommend it. 00:18:58 Speaker 3: Is she like a conspiracy theorist. 00:19:02 Speaker 4: No, in fact, she goes beyond that to like she's created her own world, and it's a fascinating, fascinating world, and you know, you have to be a little careful because you know it touches on. Well, is it okay to enjoy what she's putting out because she may not be healthy. I don't know, but the fact that she's putting it out for consumption, you know, allows us to indulge. 00:19:37 Speaker 3: I mean, she's opened the door she has and in this book, which is one of my favorites of hers. 00:19:44 Speaker 4: She has written several books, by the way, all incredible reads. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: What other books, I mean, do you remember the other titles or subject? 00:19:53 Speaker 4: Oh, other titles. There's one about Barack Obama, of course, and it's like lost in the Congo Barack Obama something. Yeah, and then there's another one about Vladimir Putin, and then another one specifically about oh, Matthew McConaughey at the Oscars. It's like a murder plot against Matthew McConaughey at the Oscars. And her main focus though is Brett Speiner. He played Data in Star Trek. Now she's been obsessed with him for going on thirty years, and so all of her stories kind of center around him wanting to have sex with her. 00:20:46 Speaker 3: Who is funding this person? 00:20:48 Speaker 4: I mean otherise from what I gather Walmart? And before we get sued, she i've I've read that she works at Walmart. So, but in this book, The Shimmering Sea, Robin Williams Murder, she lays out, you know a pretty interesting tale about Robin Williams not committing suicide but rather being murdered by the the you know, filthy Jesuits. Her words, not mine? Who who? Along with Zach Knight no clue. 00:21:26 Speaker 3: Is maybe a fictional character. 00:21:28 Speaker 4: I think he is, but he's the head of the Jesuits. He can impregnant you by looking at you, right, right, He's against her and the Church of Gail, and the Church of Gail basically has a long list of Hollywood celebrities. When I have sex with her, long story short, Robin Williams was about to be able to have sex with her, his penis became a balloon and was squeaking a lot. It's also of the book, absolutely and in the end the Jesuits murdered him and made it look like a suicide. 00:22:09 Speaker 3: Of course. Well this is always the truth and so right. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: And you know what I like about her books is the brevity of you know, sixty seven pages in this. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: One, a nice slim You could read this at a doctor's office. 00:22:24 Speaker 4: Right, And I'm sure a lot of doctors have her work laid out on the tables, you know, for patients to come in. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: How did you find I mean, I think you obviously kind of live in this world and are very familiar with the I don't even know how to describe somebody like like Gabrielle Gail. Excuse me, but do you how do you get in? How do you discover a gae Gail. 00:22:48 Speaker 4: I came across, you know, I think that was just mining YouTube and looking for kind of you know, people that are just a little off, I say, you know, the interesting eccentrics. Yes, is how I like to phrase it. You know, people that are if you lived in a small town, everyone knew about this person, right, you know, because they were off or something was different about them. And that's what I love. And that's what is far more interesting and entertaining to me all in one than you know, sitting down and watching whatever. 00:23:31 Speaker 3: Oh easily. 00:23:32 Speaker 4: And so I'll sit on YouTube, especially during filming, and just go through, you know, and try to find these kind of different people. And yeah, I came across her, and the first video I saw was just insane because she was and I don't want to get too vulgar on the podcast, but she was talking about this Jesuit plot where a bomb went off and it covered Canada in a body fluid and yeah, so it's I mean, And so I was hooked right then. And then the more I started digging, the more of this world of hers I found. 00:24:15 Speaker 3: So what I mean her videos are they similar content to the books, or is she is she vlogging. Is she trying to get out a message to the world what's going on. 00:24:26 Speaker 4: It's weird because if you watch it at first, you would you would easily, you know, mistake it for performance art, right, It's on that level because she's not saying like don't vote for this guy, or don't vote for that guy, or you know, abortion this or that. She's really created her own world and so she'll say, oh, you know, I forget her name. Matthew McConaughey's wife is plotting this new thing against him, and he's gone. Brett Speiner, who's in control of the spaceship, which is the Church of Gail as a spaceship by the way, and he's you know, trying to help Matthew McConaughey because his wife planted bombs all over him, of course, and now he's really embarrassed every time he sees her, which again it's that type of weird like what do you mean he's embarrassed. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: At the turn of logic where you never would have expected that to go. 00:25:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so each each of her videos is really just kind of a fascinating look into her, her world in her mind. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: And is she getting a lot of views or is this like where the video will have twenty five views? 00:25:44 Speaker 4: Both. When I first started watching her, it was like five views. Right, she's become a little more popular, I think because she's now getting a couple hundred do a thousand views? 00:25:56 Speaker 3: Oh good for Gail. 00:25:58 Speaker 4: Yeah so, but yeah, she had just so you know, she did have to move recently, so I don't know how that's affecting her, her sister and Laurie McBride. I think Laurie McBride made her raise her rent one hundred and fifty dollars, so she had to move anyway. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: Within this world of videos, there's always an extra layer of tragedy when we break away from the fantastical or whatever, just to a look at the reality of what's actually happening in this situation where it's like just a personal update. My life is in shambles, And then the next video is of course about Robin Williams wanting to have sex with her whatever. 00:26:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, her running list and yeah Kenna Reeves anyway. Yeah, and it's it's so explicit, I mean, it's incredibly explicit. And you know, coming from this sixty one year old mom looking lady is really also another layer that's fascinating, and you do wonder, you know, at what point did this start, this imagination start taking off, which also I mean, I'm not just interested in the humor of it, which is uproariously funny, you know what she comes up with, but also like that, you know, if you just go a little deeper, it becomes very tragic and sad to some extent, of course, if she truly believes this stuff. And so that's what's I mean, that's how I've always viewed kind of comedy. It has to be kind of sad at the same time. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, what she has a bone to pick with the Jesuits. I wonder what you have to even wonder where that started. 00:27:45 Speaker 4: I don't know, I really don't, because you know, the Jesuits are pretty laid back. Wine drinking. 00:27:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, it's a very I cannot wait to read this. So like, I love to find this sort of thing on YouTube, but I never like keywords. I never know what to even begin searching for. 00:28:06 Speaker 4: It takes a while. 00:28:07 Speaker 3: I mean, you're just digging and looking for things that seem off. 00:28:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, the more you dig, the more they suggest stuff to you oddly, and they'll suggest, you know, some pretty horrific points of view and what have you in order for them to get some money. And so that's probably how I found Gail. Yeah, it takes a little bit of digging and a little OCD behavior sometimes. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Of course. I mean YouTube, I mean, what a bizarre thing it's done done to the world. I feel like you need you should have to take a test and get a license to use YouTube. 00:28:48 Speaker 4: Oh and to view it. I mean yeah, in so because it's Yeah, I worry about all this stuff. I really, I'm very oddly concerned about how social media has affected not just social media, but the Internet itself has affected the world. 00:29:05 Speaker 3: Oh, in the absolute worst way. I mean, I wouldn't be sad if you became radicalized by searching for videos on YouTube. Suddenly Mark has become part of the alt right. Well, I did spend a lot of time looking up this sort of suddenly. Yeah, no, it's. 00:29:31 Speaker 4: Homily and I were talking about that. Those the people they get radicalized. I mean, you must be. You must just have no grounding or you know, your parents didn't weren't around, or something had to have happened for you to be swayed so easily from common decency. 00:29:46 Speaker 3: But I think part of the problem is there are a lot, an enormous amount of people of dumb people more than we could possibly expect or easily persuaded. And then oh, yeah, you watch a a lot of these YouTube videos, and I mean, Gail aside, a lot of these people sound like experts. The language they use and everything sounds somewhat intelligent. And for someone like me who's not I mean, let's not a okay, yes, very stupid, I could talk about these videos and I'd be like, well, I don't know anything about that. He seems to know about it. He seems to know the language or like to be an expert. So I can see kind of how somebody gets tricked into this sort of thing. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess as long as they know the vernacular. And and they'd hear like, well, people like us saying, well, listen to the experts, listen to the experts. What do the experts tell you? And they aren't able to you know ingest media critically, and so they're they're like, oh, this is an expert. This is exactly who they're telling me that I should be listening to because they use the right nomenclature. Yes, and then the next thing, you know, they're you know, they they're calling for the you know, repeal of breast milk. I'm not sure where I was going with that, but I'm happy where. 00:31:09 Speaker 5: I think a pretty good spot. I'm sure that's a part of the world. I mean, yeah, right, oh easily. I mean I think if I think if a relatively stable, intelligent person can think of the idea, someone out there has actually committed to the idea and has got a YouTube channel for it. I mean, anytime I have a weird thought, I'm like, oh, yeah, somebody's just done that and is out there living that life. 00:31:37 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like when you were a kid and you would think, I wonder if anyone has ever done this, and then you like jump or do something really weird and make a weird face and noise, and that has become our that's what we're at now with our creativity. Well, yeah, someone has come up with that idea because anything, because anything goes now. 00:32:08 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a but thank god. I mean on some level for the Church of Gael and this sort of thing, I mean, Dan Brown has some competition. Are these Brown style thrillers. Is that what we're talking about. 00:32:21 Speaker 4: Not in that Dan Brown was able to come up with like a proper syntax at times. So these don't compete in that air arena, but they do compete, and I can say best him when it comes to imagination. 00:32:41 Speaker 3: Good God. I wanted to look at the table of contents really quickly just to see what we're dealing with you. And the first thing in the table of contents is a balloon penis page seven. 00:32:53 Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, no, I mean she doesn't. She cuts right through the chaft. 00:32:57 Speaker 3: She really just gets to It's amazing. This is truly incredible. I mean, I'll just read the chapters. The Church of Gail malware. We've all had that on our computer car page. 00:33:07 Speaker 4: Well, what do you think? What do you think is causing the balloon penises? 00:33:10 Speaker 3: It's the malware, my mother's ring, dreams of Paradise and I take the leap. 00:33:17 Speaker 4: Oh and now you have to understand the narrator is Robin Williams, So yeah, my mother's ring. He's talking about his mother's ring. 00:33:27 Speaker 3: This is wild. And the dedication says, dedication to Robin Williams who died for me. What is gay? 00:33:34 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:33:35 Speaker 4: Well, I mean he wanted to see her and you know. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: This, this is beautiful. I mean, has Brent Spiner has this been brought to his attention in any way? 00:33:48 Speaker 4: Yeah? I saw this is how And this is where the line starts to blur between, well, what's wrong with me that I'm so into this? I started looking up Brent Spiner interviews and stuff, and there is an he is like Comic Con or something, and someone in the crowd asks him about it, and they said, are you aware of her? And he said, yeah, only for the last twenty years, And so he's must poor Bret Spiner must be getting, you know, having to deal with this. 00:34:23 Speaker 3: I mean, if some time Data, but he's Data always seemed like a sweet guy. Yeah, I'm sure he's a great robot. Yeah. 00:34:30 Speaker 4: We haven't heard any trashy stories about spine or right, I hope. 00:34:34 Speaker 3: We never do. What has he done anything outside of Star Trek? 00:34:38 Speaker 4: I'm sure he has. He's you know, he's an accomplished I've never seen Yeah, he does. He seems like someone that can do anything. 00:34:48 Speaker 3: Right, if you can play a robot for that long? Is Data is a robot? Right, some sort of. 00:34:52 Speaker 4: As cyborg type thing? 00:34:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Oh, well, you know this is I mean, if we've ever had an author and book recommendation on this podcast, it's for again. Her Her pen name is Gabrielle Chauna. Do pronounce it Hawna or Channa? I do pronounce it China. And thank you for asking. Of course I want to respect. Yes, yeah, but this feels like something that everybody needs to just seek out and read and cherish. This is something you could have on your bedside table, on your for guests. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: Or like when a child's born or what have you. And I it's all on Amazon. You can find them. Don't read the reviews. They don't know anything. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: They're trying to silence her. 00:35:42 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's probably a bunch of jesuits again, and you know, I. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: Mean, and I'll just say, the holidays are just around the corner. We all look for our friends and family, and what better to receive in the mail or under the Christmas tree than the Robin Williams murder. 00:36:01 Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Bridger, My grandparents loved the Balloon Penis chapter. 00:36:07 Speaker 3: Alone, so just something you'd sit around and read. 00:36:11 Speaker 4: His family. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: Read a few chapters from the Bible and then get into the Robin Williams murder and. 00:36:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this, I mean, this book alone has Vladimir Putin, Gerard Butler, Tony Blair. Uh, Butler gets late stage penis cancer in the book. Because there's penis cancer. 00:36:36 Speaker 3: That's separate from balloon penis. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you. And it's not a spoiler because it's in the first couple pages everyone on the Church of Gail Spaceship that all the men get something wrong with their penis. So Ken Reeves is, Yeah, Keanu Reeves's penis curves in on itself and goes into something. And then Gerard Butler obviously has a problem. I think it's Tony Blair's penis becomes a tea kettle, which which in fact whistles. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: That feels that feels like a hurtful English stereotype. 00:37:16 Speaker 4: It does. It seems Yeah, it seems close to hate. It's hate adjacent to wish that on Tony Blair. 00:37:23 Speaker 3: Give it ten years and we can identify that as pure hate. 00:37:27 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, So, I mean there's a lot of stars in the book, and that's what people want in their books, our movie stars and what have you. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Fording a spaceship and having something wrong with their genitatool. Yeah, you know, well, God bless God, bless Gabrielle Gail. I feel like I want to play a game, which you. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: Want to do it? I'd love to. 00:37:51 Speaker 3: Would you want to play the game Gift Master or the game Gift to a Curse. I'll tell you about the rules after we get into it's let's Gift or a Curse? Okay, a number between one and ten is what I need from you. 00:38:05 Speaker 4: Seven. 00:38:06 Speaker 3: Okay, I need to do some calculating for the next minute or so. You've got some time to promote, recommend, say something bad, whatever you want to do. I'll be right back. 00:38:16 Speaker 4: I have nothing to promote, and if I did, I wouldn't promote it. I'm I just that's always dead air to me when people start promoting. I really loved the TV show My Brilliant Friend. It's Italian and it's on HBO and it's so good. There's a very funny British comedy show called staff Let's Flats, which is absolutely brilliant, really really funny. I highly recommend the upcoming bar At movie. It's very funny and I want to also reckon commend, you know, I don't want to recommend Anna Bellum. I saw that and I thought it was really not that hot. Janelle Monette was brilliant in it. She was actually very very good, but the plot and it just didn't work. 00:39:18 Speaker 3: Mark an excellent use of the time. I'd like to go get a non personal recommendation. Yeah, some good recommendations there. I haven't seen my brilliant friend, but I should watch. 00:39:30 Speaker 4: Oh it's so good. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: And poor Janelle Monette, what's she doing she I feel like we've got to get her a different agent or something. She's making a lot of not great I feel like she's a good actor. 00:39:41 Speaker 4: Listen, I've made all the wrong moves in my career and so I feel like I can spot them. And yeah, she's a very good actress actor, and I was really impressed by her in the movie. 00:39:55 Speaker 3: But she's a bad movie. 00:39:58 Speaker 4: It's it just doesn't ever. It's almost a fan fiction take in my view of you know, of race right now, and I just I wish it was a little deeper and a little more nuanced. 00:40:12 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, like who gets a ship? 00:40:15 Speaker 4: What I think of reach out. 00:40:17 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, reach out to me chanel. We can get you on the right track. Let's get those skills to work. But in the meantime, we're going to play gift or a curse. I'm going to tell you a thing. You're going to tell me if it's a gift or a curse? And why? Very easy outside of the fact that there are correct answers, and if you are incorrect, you'll you'll feel embarrassed, You'll you'll you'll feel the shame. So the first item here, this is a listener suggestion gift or a curse. Uh. The listener is named Danielle. We've got to give credit when we can. Danielle has written in she wants to know gift or a curse? Bread bulls? 00:40:54 Speaker 4: Who that is? I mean, personally, I think it's a curse because it's become sloppy and I'm not a fan. And when when there's a bread ball with a salad in it, it's absolutely pointless because you are you going to pick at your bread while you're all with the container holding your salad with soup. At least you're digging in and getting some bread. But even then, no curse. I'm digging my heels in here. 00:41:26 Speaker 3: Mark, absolutely incorrect. Bread bulls are a gift. I mean, what do you have against I just have to ask, what do you have against a bit of fun novelty while you're eating soup? That's my question. 00:41:40 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, when I'm eating soup, I don't Hey, in general, when I'm eating I don't need novelty. I'm eating because I'm hungry. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: Well the novelty to change it up, get a little bit of you know, whimsy. I mean, God forbid you eat something out of made of bread, you know, I mean the salad. I'm absolutely on board with you there. Why in the world would you put salad inside a bread bull That seems borderline psychotic to me. I mean, it also shows just a deep lack of nutritional information, you know, I think. But you put a nice soup inside a bread bowl on occasion, it just feels it depends on the type of bread as well. Let's get a well made bread bowl. I think it's a fun thing. I think it's a gift. You're wrong. 00:42:33 Speaker 4: Let me answer that by saying, what next? Like soda and pumpkins, we don't need. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: To Why not again the occasional soda adam a mountain dew out of a giant pumpkin? How long did you get to do that? 00:42:49 Speaker 4: All right? 00:42:50 Speaker 3: You're not going to convince me. 00:42:52 Speaker 4: I apparently not. 00:42:55 Speaker 3: And now you've spawned a new idea that'll probably be all over Instagram. We're gonna say ANSWER's drinking out of pumpkins and no time, and it's probably gonna it's gonna throw the pumpkin market way off. You know, this is what happens when you say something that's gonna be on the internet. You don't know what throwing a little pebble in the pond is going to do. This is going to be a tidal wave. 00:43:15 Speaker 4: Again. I told you at the start of this, I'm I'm I'm about to be canceled for some any God knows any reason. This will probably be it. 00:43:24 Speaker 3: This is we finally found Okay, well you failed the first one. That's okay, let's move on to the second one. It's right, Well, I'm doing very well. I found it. You know, sometimes I struggle with this, but I found it. Gift or a curse? Speed limits? Speed limits? 00:43:41 Speaker 4: I think speed limits are a gift. I'm I think that you know, without speed limits you have ruffians and and near to wells that are gonna spoil it for everyone by causing accidents and what have you. And I don't think that's a good thing. 00:44:04 Speaker 3: Mark. Speed limits are absolutely a gift, of course, putting some sort of restraint on the automobile. We have to do it a day. It's a weapon. We're all driving a weapon around and if we're not using them correctly, lives are in danger. I think a speed you know, I will only ever go five over the speed limit on the freeway. I'll do a ten over the speed limit, which is, you know, I'm ignoring the speed limit, but I'm staying within the reasonable the reasonable confines of the speed limit. And I think anything more than that, you're you're out of control. 00:44:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, with some leeway, but yes, I think it's you know, it can be. I'm talking more people going twenty miles over in a thirty five. 00:44:54 Speaker 3: Right, doing a seventy through a school zone. 00:44:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the freeway, I think if you have to stay with you know what other people are are doing the flow of traffic. Yeah, so if they're at eighty, I think that's okay. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: Then right right, that makes sense. Although I'll just get over into the slow and I'm not you know, I'm not playing any games here. Have you ever got a speeding ticket. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: No, And I don't want to make it seem like I am I have a need for speed or anything like that. I do not. I'm a very very law abiding citizen, so no, I haven't. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: It's all about common sense and the speed limit gives us that little reference point that we can look at every few miles to remind us to be at the appropriate speed. And I'm glad we're on the same page here because you know, if this had gone in the direction of bread bulls, I would have just turned off my computer and sent you on your way. But you've gotten one out of two so far, and we're going to head into number three. Gift or a curse. Yard sales. Gift or a curse. 00:46:02 Speaker 4: I think yard sales are a gift, and I've always when I was younger and you know, had more energy, I would go to yard sales, especially in the Midwest. Yard sales are really good because you can find stuff that like the older people are giving away, and for me, I'm a big mid century modern nut, and so I could find really good things. I haven't gone to a yard sale now for many, many years, because now when I go to a yard sale, it's like they're just getting rid of all their kids shit. And so if you drive by and all you see are primary colors, you just, you know, I just keep driving, just a blur of plastic, Yeah, plastic and stuff that's going to end up in the ocean anyway. It doesn't need to go through my house to get there. But I'm still saying they're a gift mark. 00:47:02 Speaker 3: I hate to send you off with a thirty three percent, but I think yard sales are absolutely a curse. And this is why I think you actually kind of just explained it. I think there's so much potential, but it's just a t I mean, it's unless you have all of the time and energy in the world the chance. I mean, maybe it's just the location of being in Los Angeles. I don't know. I feel like I'm always up against somebody who was there. It's lined up in the person's yard at six am. I can't remember the last time I found something I wanted at a yard sale. Of course, you go with high expectations maybe I'll find something interesting, but there, you know, I think probably because of eBay all of these things where we have these professional resellers who have an eye this sort of thing. They've just maybe have truly become a place to buy old blankets and children's garbage. Yeah, and like a used blender or something. Yeah, and tee towels t towl right or anything. 00:48:02 Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, I think this question there's it should be blown out a little. It can be a little broader here in that in the category of yard sales, you also have a state sales. Right in the state sales, they're getting rid of the stuff because they have no choice. The person's dead, and so the stuff that they're getting rid of in those are usually more interesting and a little bit better than the garbage that you're just trying to get rid of. And so I used to go to a lot of estate sales right that. In fact, when I first moved to I lived in San Francisco for a few years, and I first moved there, I had no job, and so I would go to a state sales and buy old books and sell them online on eBay. And I made an okay living doing that for about a year and got exhausted because you do have to wake up at four thirty in the morning, get there, put your name on the list. And I would I would see the same book guys each time, and we would all rush in and you know, get our couple books that are worth anything. 00:49:15 Speaker 3: And would you know what books you were looking for or was it just a yeah? 00:49:19 Speaker 4: After a while you can tell, oh, this book is worthless because it's just part of a anthology that you know you need the rest of it for. Or you know, encyclopedias aren't worth anything anymore unfortunately, And but there's old encyclopedias where the plates inside are hand colored, and so those can bring some money. So you have to, you know, And after a while you start to figure out, oh, this this publisher is they do you know, stuff that people really like and want. I in fact, I have a storage unit back in Milwaukee from right before I moved to LA. I didn't I only brought clothes to LA right and I still have so many old books in there that someday I'll go back. Is they plan to keep them or sell them? I don't know at this point. Maybe just give them to charity or something and keep some of them. I know some of them I'm going to want to keep. But to answer your question, I mean, it's a gift and a curse. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: Well, that again, you're veered into a completely different category here. A yard sale is not an estate sale, is not a garage sale. You know, a garage sale, I think is probably the worst of the three. 00:50:37 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely that. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: I mean you're just starting off. What sounds like everything is going to be cut to have oil stains on it. 00:50:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, oil stains and milk like soil. 00:50:48 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:50:51 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you want to talk of state sales, I'm happy to do that on another podcast. But that is not what I asked. So you did lose the You lost the point, unfortunately. Have you ever found anything? Do you have any favorite things you've gotten out of state sales? 00:51:08 Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, I've found some pretty good cameras, oh sales. Yeah, that I was able to sell for some good money, a couple of liikahs, stuff like that, which if I hadn't been dirt poor, I would have kept for myself. But you know, I was trying to feed myself. But you know, the more I the older I get, the harder it is for me to go to a state sales because I go there and all I think about is, oh, this person had a really nice had a life and now it's gone. It's smothered out, just like my bald ass will be. You know, you're hopefully later than sooner, but it's starting to affect me emotionally. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: So I see a kind of your way, eBay Er is just rooting through someone's legacy, Is it's grim? Yeah, Palm Springs is a good place to go to an estate sale. I know, there's no idea I things to see, Yeah, and I will go mostly just to go into the old cool houses, right, just an excuse to kind of trespass. Well, yeah, I mean you failed big time in the game. I don't know what to say, but you gave it a decent effort, which is all anyone can ask. 00:52:22 Speaker 4: I still feel I got two out of three, maybe two and a half out of three. But we listen. This is a this is a discussion podcast, and so we have different opinions. 00:52:31 Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's you know, you're living in the world of Gabrielle Chana and that's you know, I don't I don't know what to tell. You can have your own little fictional uh, your little story, tell yourself whatever you want to tell yourself. Because now we need to answer some questions from listeners. This is called I said no questions. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. There are, of course, you know, they've they're on their last nerve. They've they need help finding gifts in their lives, this sort of thing. They need advice. Let's answer some of these. This first one says high Bridger. This past Christmas, my father gave my brothers and I a visit to an escape room. I'll cut through this. Basically, they don't want to go to the escape room. Luckily COVID hit escape rooms closed and we got to delay our breakups, you know, delay our fights. Unfortunately, in Washington State, businesses are slowly reopening, and eventually we will have to participate in this group activity that none of us want to do. How do we get out of the situation? How do we tell our dad this was a terrible gift and ask him to try again. Thank you. That's from Nick in Washington. So Nick doesn't want to go to an escape room that daddy bought? What did What do you? I mean? How do you tell somebody? This is a tricky one for me because I don't I don't. 00:53:45 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:53:46 Speaker 3: There's any way out of this. 00:53:48 Speaker 4: Oh, there's always a way out. Don't don't sell yourself short Bridger. There's always a way out of something. I you know, I feel their pain because I do not like escape rooms. I'm bored. I'm always I'd rather be watching TV, which is how I feel like when I go to a play. I could be watching this on TV and it would be better. I think. You know, there's there's a myriad amount of excuses. You could say that you're you know that you're sick the night of it, obviously, or that you know you got in a little fender bender and you know you're shook up. You could say that you had just had a fight. 00:54:40 Speaker 2: Mark. 00:54:40 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the what you're ignoring here is there are multiple people who want an excuse here. And if suddenly Dad is getting a call from five brothers, all who have have had something happen, alarm bells are going to go off. 00:54:55 Speaker 4: I understand that. And you know that's how you subtly let the father know that this was a bad gift. This is how I answer the second part. You know he's going to realize it. No one will I'm from the Midwest. He's going to realize it. No one will say a thing to each other about it and it just goes away. 00:55:14 Speaker 3: You're almost creating a little escape room for dad to solve because he's got in bi clues and now he's got to piece this information together. Why does no one want to go to the escape room? I think that maybe that's not a bad idea. It's kind of a you know, I think you have to I think you have to be upfront with him, just say we don't want to go to the escape room, but why don't we go to dinner? 00:55:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then take him to dinner. 00:55:35 Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. I mean, of course, you know Midwestern politeness. I think that's a little bit more difficult to gift situations, telling someone you don't like their gift. I mean, and so I think maybe lying and excuses is probably I mean, they're in Washington. I don't know how people behave really in Washington, but I feel like there's some level of politeness there. I think that a lot and an excuse or someone saying I called to schedule and employment they shut down because of COVID. I feel like that's a very legitimate lie. 00:56:09 Speaker 4: It is a good it's definitely legitimate, but it might bite you in the ass if he finds out then later and then you know, just a single tear runs down his eye as he's going through the newspaper and sees there two for one special. I yeah. Also, you know, I mean not to be grim, but you know, we're halfway through this pandemic. Who knows what's going to happen and who will come out at the other end. Maybe is it too soon to start doing pandemic well. 00:56:44 Speaker 3: Gallows, you know there are several pandemic sitcoms in the work. So I don't know what to tell anybody. I mean, oh god, I don't want it. Nobody was what are we talking about? We're in the middle of a nationwide thing and we do not need glib sitcoms about the situation. 00:57:04 Speaker 4: No, And who wants to sit well? And that's who knows. I mean, that's my view on like these emergency room doctor shows right, Like the last place on Earth I want to be is in an emergency room unless I'm a doctor or a nurse. So why would I watch that on TV? 00:57:20 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:57:21 Speaker 4: But people love them, I mean I get it there. 00:57:23 Speaker 3: You know, people love to live on the edge or look mortality in the face. I suppose yeah, but yeah, Nick, I'm you know, I feel like we've given you kind of a cloud of advice that you can kind of pick and choose as you will. There's, you know, the path forward to an honest relationship with your father, or there's the continued deceit and excuse path, which I can recommend myself. I mean, I think we've all at some point had to gingerly treat our parents' feelings in a way that you know, we've all been given gifts that are something we don't want. So do with that what you will? You know, if you end up in an escape room fighting with your brothers, not the worst thing that's ever happened. One more Mark, just helping with one more. This is high friends, So this person's very familiar with both of us, you know, coming in strong. I'm trying to decide to what to get my boyfriend for Christmas. He likes Music's music, so now that's interesting that I would say that he likes music, sweets, and travel. He also lives in Australia. We've been together for a year. The plan was to move in in her New York apartment, but it's going to be a while since he's on the other side of the world and he's going to be moving towards her. She doesn't want to give him too much, so she was going to send him some New York specific snacks, but the last package took a month and she doesn't want to send him anything that could perish in the mail. What can I give him? Thanks in advance? And that's just from the letter m So that could be a marry, that could be a Margaret, that could be a Margo, that could be a Missy. What does miss he send to this boyfriend in Australia because he's headed towards her. She doesn't want to burden him with anything, so I don't. 00:59:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one. 00:59:11 Speaker 3: My mind immediately goes to a lock of hair and a locket. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: You can yeah, but you're you're from you know, Victorian era is when you were born. 00:59:19 Speaker 5: So my half of the zoom call is eighteen forty three, so I can't only read check off and yes. 00:59:33 Speaker 3: But you know you put that locket of hair inside a beautiful golden locket, and it's on a steamship headed towards Australia, and I think that you're in a good spot. But I don't know, Mark, would you have any feelings. 00:59:47 Speaker 4: Gosh, that's a tough one because it's another continent. And if you think that shipping has gotten any swifter during the pandemic, I think we you'd be wrong. You know, there has to be something in Australia that you could and I have no idea if there is, I highly doubt it. But it seems like a savage continent. But there has to be some sort of stores there that you could order high end you know if that's high end sweets or right, and have them delivered, or you could wait, you know, god willing a few months. And you love to travel, you love sweets, and you love music. Go to Austria there where you know where the his musical history is rich as almost as rich as the chocolate, and and you know it's a destination that neither of you use. 01:00:46 Speaker 3: Good airfare from New York to Austria. Yeah, probably right now, especially right I think that's an excellent gift. He gets to and then he doesn't have to carry anything extra but the hope in his heart that he's going to get to go on. 01:01:01 Speaker 4: A vacation, yeah, or make out with her. 01:01:04 Speaker 3: H Well, I think that I don't even you. You now have the choice of a locket or a luxury vacation or both. There's always the option to do both. Letter M. So I think that's wonderful. I think we've given some decent advice, decent to great. It's a whole range that we've done here, and I hope that those people can deal with that and incorporate it into their lives. But Mark, this has just been I've had a wonderful time, and I've learned about a new favorite author. I think a lot of people out there listening are going to be headed to Barnes and Noble, Borders, Walden Books. I'm trying to give some other failed book retailers, but. 01:01:51 Speaker 4: Bretano's Hudson bur How. 01:01:56 Speaker 3: Can I forget b Dalton, one of our fallen war years. But they're going to be looking out for Gabriella Chana and then of course looking up her YouTube. And I'm just so thrilled to have this blessing in my life. 01:02:09 Speaker 4: Well, I know you said no gifts. I'm happy you liked it. I have to confess I did lie a little bit. I said that I didn't send this as a gift, but the truth is I did so. 01:02:20 Speaker 3: Oh this is a turn, a turn for the end of the podcast, and it feels unfair that you would leave me with this new piece of information right as we're trying to close things up. But you know, maybe that's how you do things in Palm Springs. 01:02:33 Speaker 4: Well, I just didn't want. I know, you have quite the temper and you're you can be very belligerent and awful frankly, and so I didn't want to get into it early on in ruin the whole. 01:02:44 Speaker 3: I appreciate that, because you know, we are trying to be professional here and I do have to deliver the episode. So now I'll just have to go off and have the rest of my day ruined. So it's Mark again. Thank you for being here, and thank you. I hope you are enjoying yourself on some level and can go out and just have a relaxing, quiet day in the desert. And everyone else listening to the podcast, I don't care what you do, do what you want. This is the end of the podcast and we're just gonna all move on with our lives as usual. Goodbye. I said, No. Gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, and if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I Said no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it? 01:03:52 Speaker 1: Invit Did you hear fun a man? Myself perfectly clear? But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty? 01:04:07 Speaker 2: And I said, no, guess, You're a presence is presents enough? I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbe me?