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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and.

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Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff. So how did you

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Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gift time of course? Bridge,

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Speaker 3: Why a girl. I hope you're having a nice day.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe we should all work on our

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Speaker 3: so maybe this will putting it out there will correct

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Speaker 3: decades of slouching. I don't know. You know that's well,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to get further into that. Do what

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Speaker 3: you need to do. I want to talk to my guest.

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Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled about my guest today, Mark Prokesch Mark,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to. I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Bridger.

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Speaker 3: Mark. I have to say, there are there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of last names in the world, and your last

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Speaker 3: pronounce it. I don't know if I pronounce it correctly.

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Speaker 3: You did, actually, yeah, it's a very I mean, there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of last names where you can kind

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Speaker 3: of break it down and you know, find words that

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Speaker 3: it's similar to or this. Your word has no reference

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Speaker 3: I mean, your last name has no reference point.

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Speaker 4: No, and I mean and not even for me, I

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Speaker 4: is to say, it's like brook b ro Okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so like Brooke and then it's then we have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mostly consonants. It is a name that's in

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Speaker 4: I was asked was, you know, what would you think

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Speaker 3: Your kid.

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Speaker 4: That's such an old thing to happen, which and I

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Speaker 4: said to them, I said, you know, it's not really

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Speaker 4: I just stuck with PROCs and you know, it's it's fine.

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Speaker 4: If galifan Akis can, that's true, succeed with that name,

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Speaker 4: then I certainly can with fewer letters.

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Speaker 3: That's very true, Galafanak. But again, Galafanacus at least has

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Speaker 3: Is where what is the origin of that last name?

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Speaker 4: No? Okay, Now I didn't.

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Speaker 4: You know, we caved and bought a peloton really early

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Speaker 4: I always do the Sliding Sands National Park. I think

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Speaker 4: And then I watch TV while I'm riding, so I

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Speaker 3: At this point, I'm now having a flashback to two

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Speaker 3: but I'm deeply jealous. You just get to be there

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Speaker 3: And is she getting a lot of views or is

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Speaker 3: this like where the video will have twenty five views?

437
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Speaker 4: Both. When I first started watching her, it was like

438
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Speaker 4: five views. Right, she's become a little more popular, I

439
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: think because she's now getting a couple hundred do a

440
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Speaker 4: thousand views?

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Speaker 3: Oh good for Gail.

442
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah so, but yeah, she had just so you know,

443
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: she did have to move recently, so I don't know

444
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 4: how that's affecting her, her sister and Laurie McBride. I

445
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: think Laurie McBride made her raise her rent one hundred

446
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: and fifty dollars, so she had to move anyway.

447
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Within this world of videos, there's always an extra layer

448
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: of tragedy when we break away from the fantastical or whatever,

449
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 3: just to a look at the reality of what's actually

450
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: happening in this situation where it's like just a personal update.

451
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: My life is in shambles, And then the next video

452
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: is of course about Robin Williams wanting to have sex

453
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Speaker 3: with her whatever.

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah, her running list and yeah Kenna Reeves anyway. Yeah,

455
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: and it's it's so explicit, I mean, it's incredibly explicit.

456
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: And you know, coming from this sixty one year old

457
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: mom looking lady is really also another layer that's fascinating,

458
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: and you do wonder, you know, at what point did

459
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 4: this start, this imagination start taking off, which also I mean,

460
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: I'm not just interested in the humor of it, which

461
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: is uproariously funny, you know what she comes up with,

462
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: but also like that, you know, if you just go

463
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: a little deeper, it becomes very tragic and sad to

464
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: some extent, of course, if she truly believes this stuff.

465
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: And so that's what's I mean, that's how I've always

466
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: viewed kind of comedy. It has to be kind of

467
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: sad at the same time.

468
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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, what she has a bone to pick

469
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Speaker 3: with the Jesuits. I wonder what you have to even

470
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: wonder where that started.

471
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, I really don't, because you know, the

472
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: Jesuits are pretty laid back. Wine drinking.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, it's a very I cannot wait to read this.

474
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 3: So like, I love to find this sort of thing

475
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: on YouTube, but I never like keywords. I never know

476
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: what to even begin searching for.

477
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: It takes a while.

478
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just digging and looking for things that

479
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: seem off.

480
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, the more you dig, the more

481
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: they suggest stuff to you oddly, and they'll suggest, you know,

482
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: some pretty horrific points of view and what have you

483
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 4: in order for them to get some money. And so

484
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 4: that's probably how I found Gail. Yeah, it takes a

485
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: little bit of digging and a little OCD behavior sometimes.

486
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Of course. I mean YouTube, I mean, what a bizarre

487
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: thing it's done done to the world. I feel like

488
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: you need you should have to take a test and

489
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: get a license to use YouTube.

490
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: Oh and to view it. I mean yeah, in so

491
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: because it's Yeah, I worry about all this stuff. I really,

492
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 4: I'm very oddly concerned about how social media has affected

493
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: not just social media, but the Internet itself has affected

494
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Speaker 4: the world.

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Speaker 3: Oh, in the absolute worst way. I mean, I wouldn't

496
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: be sad if you became radicalized by searching for videos

497
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Suddenly Mark has become part of the alt right. Well,

498
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: I did spend a lot of time looking up this

499
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: sort of suddenly. Yeah, no, it's.

500
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Speaker 4: Homily and I were talking about that. Those the people

501
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: they get radicalized. I mean, you must be. You must

502
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: just have no grounding or you know, your parents didn't

503
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: weren't around, or something had to have happened for you

504
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: to be swayed so easily from common decency.

505
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: But I think part of the problem is there are

506
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: a lot, an enormous amount of people of dumb people

507
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: more than we could possibly expect or easily persuaded. And

508
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: then oh, yeah, you watch a a lot of these

509
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: YouTube videos, and I mean, Gail aside, a lot of

510
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: these people sound like experts. The language they use and

511
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: everything sounds somewhat intelligent. And for someone like me who's

512
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: not I mean, let's not a okay, yes, very stupid,

513
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: I could talk about these videos and I'd be like, well,

514
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. He seems to know

515
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: about it. He seems to know the language or like

516
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: to be an expert. So I can see kind of

517
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: how somebody gets tricked into this sort of thing.

518
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess as long as they know the vernacular.

519
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: And and they'd hear like, well, people like us saying, well,

520
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: listen to the experts, listen to the experts. What do

521
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: the experts tell you? And they aren't able to you

522
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: know ingest media critically, and so they're they're like, oh,

523
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: this is an expert. This is exactly who they're telling

524
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: me that I should be listening to because they use

525
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: the right nomenclature. Yes, and then the next thing, you know,

526
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: they're you know, they they're calling for the you know,

527
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: repeal of breast milk. I'm not sure where I was

528
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: going with that, but I'm happy where.

529
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: I think a pretty good spot. I'm sure that's a

530
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: part of the world. I mean, yeah, right, oh easily.

531
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: I mean I think if I think if a relatively stable,

532
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: intelligent person can think of the idea, someone out there

533
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: has actually committed to the idea and has got a

534
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: YouTube channel for it. I mean, anytime I have a

535
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 5: weird thought, I'm like, oh, yeah, somebody's just done that

536
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: and is out there living that life.

537
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like when you were a kid and you

538
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: would think, I wonder if anyone has ever done this,

539
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: and then you like jump or do something really weird

540
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: and make a weird face and noise, and that has

541
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: become our that's what we're at now with our creativity. Well, yeah,

542
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: someone has come up with that idea because anything, because

543
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: anything goes now.

544
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a but thank god. I mean on

545
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: some level for the Church of Gael and this sort

546
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: of thing, I mean, Dan Brown has some competition. Are

547
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: these Brown style thrillers. Is that what we're talking about.

548
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 4: Not in that Dan Brown was able to come up

549
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: with like a proper syntax at times. So these don't

550
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: compete in that air arena, but they do compete, and

551
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: I can say best him when it comes to imagination.

552
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: Good God. I wanted to look at the table of

553
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: contents really quickly just to see what we're dealing with you.

554
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: And the first thing in the table of contents is

555
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: a balloon penis page seven.

556
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, no, I mean she doesn't. She cuts right

557
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: through the chaft.

558
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: She really just gets to It's amazing. This is truly incredible.

559
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll just read the chapters. The Church of

560
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: Gail malware. We've all had that on our computer car page.

561
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: Well, what do you think? What do you think is

562
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: causing the balloon penises?

563
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: It's the malware, my mother's ring, dreams of Paradise and

564
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: I take the leap.

565
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: Oh and now you have to understand the narrator is

566
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: Robin Williams, So yeah, my mother's ring. He's talking about

567
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: his mother's ring.

568
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: This is wild. And the dedication says, dedication to Robin

569
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: Williams who died for me. What is gay?

570
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

571
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he wanted to see her and you know.

572
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: This, this is beautiful. I mean, has Brent Spiner has

573
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: this been brought to his attention in any way?

574
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I saw this is how And this is where

575
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: the line starts to blur between, well, what's wrong with

576
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: me that I'm so into this? I started looking up

577
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Brent Spiner interviews and stuff, and there is an he

578
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: is like Comic Con or something, and someone in the

579
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: crowd asks him about it, and they said, are you

580
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: aware of her? And he said, yeah, only for the

581
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: last twenty years, And so he's must poor Bret Spiner

582
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: must be getting, you know, having to deal with this.

583
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if some time Data, but he's Data always

584
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: seemed like a sweet guy. Yeah, I'm sure he's a

585
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: great robot. Yeah.

586
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: We haven't heard any trashy stories about spine or right,

587
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: I hope.

588
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: We never do. What has he done anything outside of

589
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: Star Trek?

590
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure he has. He's you know, he's an accomplished

591
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I've never seen Yeah, he does. He seems like someone

592
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: that can do anything.

593
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: Right, if you can play a robot for that long?

594
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: Is Data is a robot? Right, some sort of.

595
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 4: As cyborg type thing?

596
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Oh, well, you know this

597
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: is I mean, if we've ever had an author and

598
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: book recommendation on this podcast, it's for again. Her Her

599
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: pen name is Gabrielle Chauna. Do pronounce it Hawna or Channa?

600
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 3: I do pronounce it China. And thank you for asking.

601
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: Of course I want to respect. Yes, yeah, but this

602
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: feels like something that everybody needs to just seek out

603
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: and read and cherish. This is something you could have

604
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: on your bedside table, on your for guests.

605
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: Or like when a child's born or what have you.

606
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: And I it's all on Amazon. You can find them.

607
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: Don't read the reviews. They don't know anything.

608
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: They're trying to silence her.

609
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's probably a bunch of jesuits again, and

610
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: you know, I.

611
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Mean, and I'll just say, the holidays are just around

612
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: the corner. We all look for our friends and family,

613
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: and what better to receive in the mail or under

614
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: the Christmas tree than the Robin Williams murder.

615
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Bridger, My grandparents loved the Balloon Penis chapter.

616
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: Alone, so just something you'd sit around and read.

617
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: His family.

618
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Read a few chapters from the Bible and then get

619
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: into the Robin Williams murder and.

620
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this, I mean, this book alone has Vladimir Putin,

621
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: Gerard Butler, Tony Blair. Uh, Butler gets late stage penis

622
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 4: cancer in the book. Because there's penis cancer.

623
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: That's separate from balloon penis.

624
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you. And it's not a spoiler because

625
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: it's in the first couple pages everyone on the Church

626
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 4: of Gail Spaceship that all the men get something wrong

627
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 4: with their penis. So Ken Reeves is, Yeah, Keanu Reeves's

628
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: penis curves in on itself and goes into something. And

629
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: then Gerard Butler obviously has a problem. I think it's

630
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: Tony Blair's penis becomes a tea kettle, which which in

631
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: fact whistles.

632
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: That feels that feels like a hurtful English stereotype.

633
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: It does. It seems Yeah, it seems close to hate.

634
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: It's hate adjacent to wish that on Tony Blair.

635
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Give it ten years and we can identify that as

636
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: pure hate.

637
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, So, I mean there's a lot of stars

638
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: in the book, and that's what people want in their books,

639
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: our movie stars and what have you.

640
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: Fording a spaceship and having something wrong with their genitatool. Yeah,

641
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: you know, well, God bless God, bless Gabrielle Gail. I

642
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: feel like I want to play a game, which you.

643
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: Want to do it? I'd love to.

644
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: Would you want to play the game Gift Master or

645
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: the game Gift to a Curse. I'll tell you about

646
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: the rules after we get into it's let's Gift or

647
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: a Curse? Okay, a number between one and ten is

648
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: what I need from you.

649
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: Seven.

650
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I need to do some calculating for the next

651
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: minute or so. You've got some time to promote, recommend,

652
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: say something bad, whatever you want to do. I'll be

653
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: right back.

654
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: I have nothing to promote, and if I did, I

655
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 4: wouldn't promote it. I'm I just that's always dead air

656
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: to me when people start promoting. I really loved the

657
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: TV show My Brilliant Friend. It's Italian and it's on

658
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: HBO and it's so good. There's a very funny British

659
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: comedy show called staff Let's Flats, which is absolutely brilliant,

660
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: really really funny. I highly recommend the upcoming bar At movie.

661
00:38:52,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: It's very funny and I want to also reckon commend,

662
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to recommend Anna Bellum. I

663
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: saw that and I thought it was really not that hot.

664
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: Janelle Monette was brilliant in it. She was actually very

665
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: very good, but the plot and it just didn't work.

666
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: Mark an excellent use of the time. I'd like to

667
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: go get a non personal recommendation. Yeah, some good recommendations there.

668
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 3: I haven't seen my brilliant friend, but I should watch.

669
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: Oh it's so good.

670
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: And poor Janelle Monette, what's she doing she I feel

671
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: like we've got to get her a different agent or something.

672
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: She's making a lot of not great I feel like

673
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: she's a good actor.

674
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: Listen, I've made all the wrong moves in my career

675
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: and so I feel like I can spot them. And yeah,

676
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: she's a very good actress actor, and I was really

677
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: impressed by her in the movie.

678
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: But she's a bad movie.

679
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: It's it just doesn't ever. It's almost a fan fiction

680
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: take in my view of you know, of race right now,

681
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: and I just I wish it was a little deeper

682
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: and a little more nuanced.

683
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, like who gets a ship?

684
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: What I think of reach out.

685
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, reach out to me chanel. We can get you

686
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: on the right track. Let's get those skills to work.

687
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: But in the meantime, we're going to play gift or

688
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: a curse. I'm going to tell you a thing. You're

689
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: going to tell me if it's a gift or a curse?

690
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: And why? Very easy outside of the fact that there

691
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: are correct answers, and if you are incorrect, you'll you'll

692
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: feel embarrassed, You'll you'll you'll feel the shame. So the

693
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: first item here, this is a listener suggestion gift or

694
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: a curse. Uh. The listener is named Danielle. We've got

695
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: to give credit when we can. Danielle has written in

696
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: she wants to know gift or a curse? Bread bulls?

697
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: Who that is? I mean, personally, I think it's a

698
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 4: curse because it's become sloppy and I'm not a fan.

699
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 4: And when when there's a bread ball with a salad

700
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: in it, it's absolutely pointless because you are you going

701
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: to pick at your bread while you're all with the

702
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: container holding your salad with soup. At least you're digging

703
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: in and getting some bread. But even then, no curse.

704
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm digging my heels in here.

705
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: Mark, absolutely incorrect. Bread bulls are a gift. I mean,

706
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: what do you have against I just have to ask,

707
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: what do you have against a bit of fun novelty

708
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: while you're eating soup? That's my question.

709
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, when I'm eating soup, I don't Hey,

710
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: in general, when I'm eating I don't need novelty. I'm

711
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: eating because I'm hungry.

712
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: Well the novelty to change it up, get a little

713
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: bit of you know, whimsy. I mean, God forbid you

714
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: eat something out of made of bread, you know, I

715
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: mean the salad. I'm absolutely on board with you there.

716
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: Why in the world would you put salad inside a

717
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: bread bull That seems borderline psychotic to me. I mean,

718
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: it also shows just a deep lack of nutritional information,

719
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, I think. But you put a nice soup

720
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: inside a bread bowl on occasion, it just feels it

721
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: depends on the type of bread as well. Let's get

722
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: a well made bread bowl. I think it's a fun thing.

723
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a gift. You're wrong.

724
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: Let me answer that by saying, what next? Like soda

725
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: and pumpkins, we don't need.

726
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: To Why not again the occasional soda adam a mountain

727
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: dew out of a giant pumpkin? How long did you

728
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: get to do that?

729
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: All right?

730
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: You're not going to convince me.

731
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: I apparently not.

732
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: And now you've spawned a new idea that'll probably be

733
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: all over Instagram. We're gonna say ANSWER's drinking out of

734
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 3: pumpkins and no time, and it's probably gonna it's gonna

735
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: throw the pumpkin market way off. You know, this is

736
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: what happens when you say something that's gonna be on

737
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: the internet. You don't know what throwing a little pebble

738
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: in the pond is going to do. This is going

739
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: to be a tidal wave.

740
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 4: Again. I told you at the start of this, I'm

741
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm I'm about to be canceled for some any God

742
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: knows any reason. This will probably be it.

743
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: This is we finally found Okay, well you failed the

744
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: first one. That's okay, let's move on to the second one.

745
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: It's right, Well, I'm doing very well. I found it.

746
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I struggle with this, but I found it.

747
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Gift or a curse? Speed limits? Speed limits?

748
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: I think speed limits are a gift. I'm I think

749
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: that you know, without speed limits you have ruffians and

750
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: and near to wells that are gonna spoil it for

751
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: everyone by causing accidents and what have you. And I

752
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: don't think that's a good thing.

753
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: Mark. Speed limits are absolutely a gift, of course, putting

754
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: some sort of restraint on the automobile. We have to

755
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: do it a day. It's a weapon. We're all driving

756
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: a weapon around and if we're not using them correctly,

757
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: lives are in danger. I think a speed you know,

758
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: I will only ever go five over the speed limit

759
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: on the freeway. I'll do a ten over the speed limit,

760
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: which is, you know, I'm ignoring the speed limit, but

761
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: I'm staying within the reasonable the reasonable confines of the

762
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: speed limit. And I think anything more than that, you're

763
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: you're out of control.

764
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, with some leeway, but yes, I think it's you know,

765
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: it can be. I'm talking more people going twenty miles

766
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: over in a thirty five.

767
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: Right, doing a seventy through a school zone.

768
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the freeway, I think if you have to

769
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 4: stay with you know what other people are are doing

770
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: the flow of traffic. Yeah, so if they're at eighty,

771
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: I think that's okay.

772
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: Then right right, that makes sense. Although I'll just get

773
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 3: over into the slow and I'm not you know, I'm

774
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: not playing any games here. Have you ever got a

775
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: speeding ticket.

776
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: No, And I don't want to make it seem like

777
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: I am I have a need for speed or anything

778
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: like that. I do not. I'm a very very law

779
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 4: abiding citizen, so no, I haven't.

780
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: It's all about common sense and the speed limit gives

781
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: us that little reference point that we can look at

782
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: every few miles to remind us to be at the

783
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: appropriate speed. And I'm glad we're on the same page

784
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: here because you know, if this had gone in the

785
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: direction of bread bulls, I would have just turned off

786
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: my computer and sent you on your way. But you've

787
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: gotten one out of two so far, and we're going

788
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: to head into number three. Gift or a curse. Yard sales.

789
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: Gift or a curse.

790
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: I think yard sales are a gift, and I've always

791
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: when I was younger and you know, had more energy,

792
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: I would go to yard sales, especially in the Midwest.

793
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: Yard sales are really good because you can find stuff

794
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: that like the older people are giving away, and for me,

795
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: I'm a big mid century modern nut, and so I

796
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: could find really good things. I haven't gone to a

797
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: yard sale now for many, many years, because now when

798
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: I go to a yard sale, it's like they're just

799
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: getting rid of all their kids shit. And so if

800
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: you drive by and all you see are primary colors,

801
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: you just, you know, I just keep driving, just a

802
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: blur of plastic, Yeah, plastic and stuff that's going to

803
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: end up in the ocean anyway. It doesn't need to

804
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: go through my house to get there. But I'm still

805
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: saying they're a gift mark.

806
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: I hate to send you off with a thirty three percent,

807
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: but I think yard sales are absolutely a curse. And

808
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: this is why I think you actually kind of just

809
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: explained it. I think there's so much potential, but it's

810
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: just a t I mean, it's unless you have all

811
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: of the time and energy in the world the chance.

812
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's just the location of being in

813
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. I don't know. I feel like I'm always

814
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: up against somebody who was there. It's lined up in

815
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: the person's yard at six am. I can't remember the

816
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: last time I found something I wanted at a yard sale.

817
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: Of course, you go with high expectations maybe I'll find

818
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: something interesting, but there, you know, I think probably because

819
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: of eBay all of these things where we have these

820
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: professional resellers who have an eye this sort of thing.

821
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 3: They've just maybe have truly become a place to buy

822
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: old blankets and children's garbage. Yeah, and like a used

823
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: blender or something. Yeah, and tee towels t towl right

824
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: or anything.

825
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, I think this question there's it

826
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: should be blown out a little. It can be a

827
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: little broader here in that in the category of yard sales,

828
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 4: you also have a state sales. Right in the state sales,

829
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 4: they're getting rid of the stuff because they have no choice.

830
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: The person's dead, and so the stuff that they're getting

831
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: rid of in those are usually more interesting and a

832
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: little bit better than the garbage that you're just trying

833
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: to get rid of. And so I used to go

834
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 4: to a lot of estate sales right that. In fact,

835
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: when I first moved to I lived in San Francisco

836
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: for a few years, and I first moved there, I

837
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: had no job, and so I would go to a

838
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: state sales and buy old books and sell them online

839
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: on eBay. And I made an okay living doing that

840
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: for about a year and got exhausted because you do

841
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: have to wake up at four thirty in the morning,

842
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: get there, put your name on the list. And I

843
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: would I would see the same book guys each time,

844
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: and we would all rush in and you know, get

845
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: our couple books that are worth anything.

846
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: And would you know what books you were looking for

847
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 3: or was it just a yeah?

848
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: After a while you can tell, oh, this book is

849
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: worthless because it's just part of a anthology that you

850
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: know you need the rest of it for. Or you know,

851
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: encyclopedias aren't worth anything anymore unfortunately, And but there's old

852
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: encyclopedias where the plates inside are hand colored, and so

853
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: those can bring some money. So you have to, you know,

854
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: And after a while you start to figure out, oh,

855
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: this this publisher is they do you know, stuff that

856
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: people really like and want. I in fact, I have

857
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: a storage unit back in Milwaukee from right before I

858
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: moved to LA. I didn't I only brought clothes to

859
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: LA right and I still have so many old books

860
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: in there that someday I'll go back. Is they plan

861
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: to keep them or sell them? I don't know at

862
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: this point. Maybe just give them to charity or something

863
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: and keep some of them. I know some of them

864
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to want to keep. But to answer your question,

865
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a gift and a curse.

866
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 3: Well, that again, you're veered into a completely different category here.

867
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: A yard sale is not an estate sale, is not

868
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: a garage sale. You know, a garage sale, I think

869
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: is probably the worst of the three.

870
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely that.

871
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean you're just starting off. What sounds like everything

872
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: is going to be cut to have oil stains on it.

873
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, oil stains and milk like soil.

874
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: Yes.

875
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you want to talk of state sales,

876
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm happy to do that on another podcast. But that

877
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 3: is not what I asked. So you did lose the

878
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: You lost the point, unfortunately. Have you ever found anything?

879
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: Do you have any favorite things you've gotten out of

880
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 3: state sales?

881
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, I've found some pretty good cameras, oh sales. Yeah,

882
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: that I was able to sell for some good money,

883
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: a couple of liikahs, stuff like that, which if I

884
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: hadn't been dirt poor, I would have kept for myself.

885
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I was trying to feed myself. But

886
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: you know, the more I the older I get, the

887
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: harder it is for me to go to a state

888
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: sales because I go there and all I think about is, oh,

889
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: this person had a really nice had a life and

890
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: now it's gone. It's smothered out, just like my bald

891
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: ass will be. You know, you're hopefully later than sooner,

892
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: but it's starting to affect me emotionally.

893
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: So I see a kind of your way, eBay Er

894
00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: is just rooting through someone's legacy, Is it's grim? Yeah,

895
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Palm Springs is a good place to go to an

896
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: estate sale. I know, there's no idea I things to see, Yeah,

897
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: and I will go mostly just to go into the

898
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: old cool houses, right, just an excuse to kind of trespass. Well, yeah,

899
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: I mean you failed big time in the game. I

900
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: don't know what to say, but you gave it a

901
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: decent effort, which is all anyone can ask.

902
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 4: I still feel I got two out of three, maybe

903
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: two and a half out of three. But we listen.

904
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: This is a this is a discussion podcast, and so

905
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: we have different opinions.

906
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's you know, you're living in the

907
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: world of Gabrielle Chana and that's you know, I don't

908
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell. You can have your

909
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: own little fictional uh, your little story, tell yourself whatever

910
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: you want to tell yourself. Because now we need to

911
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: answer some questions from listeners. This is called I said

912
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: no questions. People are writing into I said no gifts

913
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. There are, of course, you know,

914
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: they've they're on their last nerve. They've they need help

915
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: finding gifts in their lives, this sort of thing. They

916
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: need advice. Let's answer some of these. This first one

917
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: says high Bridger. This past Christmas, my father gave my

918
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: brothers and I a visit to an escape room. I'll

919
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: cut through this. Basically, they don't want to go to

920
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: the escape room. Luckily COVID hit escape rooms closed and

921
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: we got to delay our breakups, you know, delay our fights. Unfortunately,

922
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: in Washington State, businesses are slowly reopening, and eventually we

923
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: will have to participate in this group activity that none

924
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: of us want to do. How do we get out

925
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: of the situation? How do we tell our dad this

926
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: was a terrible gift and ask him to try again.

927
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 3: Thank you. That's from Nick in Washington. So Nick doesn't

928
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 3: want to go to an escape room that daddy bought?

929
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: What did What do you? I mean? How do you

930
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: tell somebody? This is a tricky one for me because

931
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 3: I don't I don't.

932
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

933
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 3: There's any way out of this.

934
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: Oh, there's always a way out. Don't don't sell yourself

935
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: short Bridger. There's always a way out of something. I

936
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 4: you know, I feel their pain because I do not

937
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: like escape rooms. I'm bored. I'm always I'd rather be

938
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: watching TV, which is how I feel like when I

939
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: go to a play. I could be watching this on

940
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: TV and it would be better. I think. You know,

941
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: there's there's a myriad amount of excuses. You could say

942
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: that you're you know that you're sick the night of it, obviously,

943
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 4: or that you know you got in a little fender

944
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: bender and you know you're shook up. You could say

945
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 4: that you had just had a fight.

946
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: Mark.

947
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the what you're ignoring here is

948
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: there are multiple people who want an excuse here. And

949
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: if suddenly Dad is getting a call from five brothers,

950
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: all who have have had something happen, alarm bells are

951
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: going to go off.

952
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: I understand that. And you know that's how you subtly

953
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: let the father know that this was a bad gift.

954
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: This is how I answer the second part. You know

955
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: he's going to realize it. No one will I'm from

956
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: the Midwest. He's going to realize it. No one will

957
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: say a thing to each other about it and it

958
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: just goes away.

959
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: You're almost creating a little escape room for dad to

960
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: solve because he's got in bi clues and now he's

961
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: got to piece this information together. Why does no one

962
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: want to go to the escape room? I think that

963
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: maybe that's not a bad idea. It's kind of a

964
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, I think you have to I think you

965
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: have to be upfront with him, just say we don't

966
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: want to go to the escape room, but why don't

967
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: we go to dinner?

968
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then take him to dinner.

969
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. I mean, of course, you

970
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: know Midwestern politeness. I think that's a little bit more

971
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: difficult to gift situations, telling someone you don't like their gift.

972
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean, and so I think maybe lying and excuses

973
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: is probably I mean, they're in Washington. I don't know

974
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: how people behave really in Washington, but I feel like

975
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: there's some level of politeness there. I think that a

976
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: lot and an excuse or someone saying I called to

977
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: schedule and employment they shut down because of COVID. I

978
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: feel like that's a very legitimate lie.

979
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: It is a good it's definitely legitimate, but it might

980
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: bite you in the ass if he finds out then

981
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 4: later and then you know, just a single tear runs

982
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: down his eye as he's going through the newspaper and

983
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 4: sees there two for one special. I yeah. Also, you know,

984
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 4: I mean not to be grim, but you know, we're

985
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: halfway through this pandemic. Who knows what's going to happen

986
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 4: and who will come out at the other end. Maybe

987
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: is it too soon to start doing pandemic well.

988
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: Gallows, you know there are several pandemic sitcoms in the work.

989
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know what to tell anybody. I mean,

990
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: oh god, I don't want it. Nobody was what are

991
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: we talking about? We're in the middle of a nationwide

992
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: thing and we do not need glib sitcoms about the situation.

993
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: No, And who wants to sit well? And that's who knows.

994
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: I mean, that's my view on like these emergency room

995
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: doctor shows right, Like the last place on Earth I

996
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: want to be is in an emergency room unless I'm

997
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: a doctor or a nurse. So why would I watch

998
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: that on TV?

999
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1000
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: But people love them, I mean I get it there.

1001
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: You know, people love to live on the edge or

1002
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: look mortality in the face. I suppose yeah, but yeah, Nick,

1003
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I feel like we've given you kind

1004
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: of a cloud of advice that you can kind of

1005
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: pick and choose as you will. There's, you know, the

1006
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 3: path forward to an honest relationship with your father, or

1007
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: there's the continued deceit and excuse path, which I can

1008
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: recommend myself. I mean, I think we've all at some

1009
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: point had to gingerly treat our parents' feelings in a

1010
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: way that you know, we've all been given gifts that

1011
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: are something we don't want. So do with that what

1012
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: you will? You know, if you end up in an

1013
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: escape room fighting with your brothers, not the worst thing

1014
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: that's ever happened. One more Mark, just helping with one more.

1015
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: This is high friends, So this person's very familiar with

1016
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: both of us, you know, coming in strong. I'm trying

1017
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: to decide to what to get my boyfriend for Christmas.

1018
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: He likes Music's music, so now that's interesting that I

1019
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: would say that he likes music, sweets, and travel. He

1020
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: also lives in Australia. We've been together for a year.

1021
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: The plan was to move in in her New York apartment,

1022
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: but it's going to be a while since he's on

1023
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: the other side of the world and he's going to

1024
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: be moving towards her. She doesn't want to give him

1025
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: too much, so she was going to send him some

1026
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: New York specific snacks, but the last package took a

1027
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: month and she doesn't want to send him anything that

1028
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: could perish in the mail. What can I give him?

1029
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: Thanks in advance? And that's just from the letter m

1030
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: So that could be a marry, that could be a Margaret,

1031
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: that could be a Margo, that could be a Missy.

1032
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: What does miss he send to this boyfriend in Australia

1033
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: because he's headed towards her. She doesn't want to burden

1034
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: him with anything, so I don't.

1035
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one.

1036
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: My mind immediately goes to a lock of hair and

1037
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: a locket.

1038
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: You can yeah, but you're you're from you know, Victorian

1039
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: era is when you were born.

1040
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 5: So my half of the zoom call is eighteen forty three,

1041
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 5: so I can't only read check off and yes.

1042
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: But you know you put that locket of hair inside

1043
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: a beautiful golden locket, and it's on a steamship headed

1044
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: towards Australia, and I think that you're in a good spot.

1045
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: But I don't know, Mark, would you have any feelings.

1046
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: Gosh, that's a tough one because it's another continent. And

1047
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 4: if you think that shipping has gotten any swifter during

1048
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: the pandemic, I think we you'd be wrong. You know,

1049
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: there has to be something in Australia that you could

1050
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: and I have no idea if there is, I highly

1051
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: doubt it. But it seems like a savage continent. But

1052
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: there has to be some sort of stores there that

1053
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: you could order high end you know if that's high

1054
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: end sweets or right, and have them delivered, or you

1055
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: could wait, you know, god willing a few months. And

1056
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: you love to travel, you love sweets, and you love music.

1057
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: Go to Austria there where you know where the his

1058
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: musical history is rich as almost as rich as the chocolate,

1059
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 4: and and you know it's a destination that neither of

1060
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: you use.

1061
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: Good airfare from New York to Austria. Yeah, probably right now,

1062
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: especially right I think that's an excellent gift. He gets

1063
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: to and then he doesn't have to carry anything extra

1064
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: but the hope in his heart that he's going to

1065
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: get to go on.

1066
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: A vacation, yeah, or make out with her.

1067
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: H Well, I think that I don't even you. You

1068
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: now have the choice of a locket or a luxury

1069
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: vacation or both. There's always the option to do both.

1070
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: Letter M. So I think that's wonderful. I think we've

1071
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: given some decent advice, decent to great. It's a whole

1072
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: range that we've done here, and I hope that those

1073
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: people can deal with that and incorporate it into their lives.

1074
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: But Mark, this has just been I've had a wonderful time,

1075
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: and I've learned about a new favorite author. I think

1076
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there listening are going to

1077
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: be headed to Barnes and Noble, Borders, Walden Books. I'm

1078
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 3: trying to give some other failed book retailers, but.

1079
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: Bretano's Hudson bur How.

1080
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: Can I forget b Dalton, one of our fallen war years.

1081
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: But they're going to be looking out for Gabriella Chana

1082
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Speaker 3: and then of course looking up her YouTube. And I'm

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Speaker 3: just so thrilled to have this blessing in my life.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know you said no gifts. I'm happy you

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Speaker 4: liked it. I have to confess I did lie a

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Speaker 4: little bit. I said that I didn't send this as

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Speaker 4: a gift, but the truth is I did so.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is a turn, a turn for the end

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Speaker 3: of the podcast, and it feels unfair that you would

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Speaker 3: leave me with this new piece of information right as

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Speaker 3: we're trying to close things up. But you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: that's how you do things in Palm Springs.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just didn't want. I know, you have quite

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Speaker 4: the temper and you're you can be very belligerent and

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Speaker 4: awful frankly, and so I didn't want to get into

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Speaker 4: it early on in ruin the whole.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, because you know, we are trying to

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Speaker 3: be professional here and I do have to deliver the episode.

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Speaker 3: So now I'll just have to go off and have

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Speaker 3: the rest of my day ruined. So it's Mark again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here, and thank you. I hope

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Speaker 3: you are enjoying yourself on some level and can go

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: out and just have a relaxing, quiet day in the desert.

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Speaker 3: And everyone else listening to the podcast, I don't care

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Speaker 3: what you do, do what you want. This is the

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: end of the podcast and we're just gonna all move

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Speaker 3: on with our lives as usual. Goodbye. I said, No.

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Speaker 3: Gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth angel

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Speaker 3: Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by miracle Worker

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Speaker 3: Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 3: At I said no gifts, and if you have a

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Speaker 3: question or need help getting a gift for someone in

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Speaker 3: your life, email me at I Said no gifts at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher

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Speaker 3: or wherever you found me, and why not leave a

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Speaker 3: review while you're at it?

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Speaker 1: Invit Did you hear fun a man? Myself perfectly clear?

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Speaker 1: But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty?

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Speaker 2: And I said, no, guess, You're a presence is presents enough?

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Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 2: dare to surbe me?