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Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. Let's you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one

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Speaker 1: of them productions iHeartRadio Media. I Heart Podcast, Season two,

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Speaker 1: Episode six presenting laurl I Gilmore Air date November six,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, and today I am joined by

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Speaker 1: three incredible women from a different TV universe. They also

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Speaker 1: happen to be major Gilmore Girls. Fans. Please welcome Laura Layton,

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Speaker 1: Daphne Zaniga, Courtney thorn Smith, whom you'll no doubt remember

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Speaker 1: as Sidney Andrews, Allison Parker, and Joe Reynolds from Melrose Place. Ladies. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled that all three of you are here

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Speaker 1: to dive into season two, episode six.

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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for having us, Scott.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a pop culture mind blowing situation. It's

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Speaker 1: really fun. Okay. So Rory surprisingly accepts Emily's request to

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Speaker 1: make her society debut at a Debutante Ball. But here's

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Speaker 1: a catch. Her father, Christopher is supposed to present her. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Laurai decides to contact Christopher and ask him to make

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Speaker 1: the visit. Directed by Chris long written by Sheila r.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Ry's Coming Out to Society. Emily decides to debut

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Speaker 1: Rory after her dar friends express interest, seeing Rory as

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Speaker 1: the perfect candidate. Rory agrees once she recognizes how important

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Speaker 1: it is to Emily, but Laurai tries to explain the

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Speaker 1: deeper meaning behind being a debutante. Emily is enthusiastic about

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Speaker 1: preparing Rory for the debutante ball, ensuring she presents herself perfectly,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately reveals her regret that Laura I was never

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Speaker 1: formally presented to society ladies. Given that Emily has not

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Speaker 1: decided to debut Rory on her own, do you think

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Speaker 1: she decided to because her friends believe Rory need to

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Speaker 1: come out to societies. This was her chance to make

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Speaker 1: up for not debuting Laura I.

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Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think it's her chance to make up

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Speaker 3: for not having had the experience with Laura I. But

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Speaker 3: also she's in this episode, she's so caught up in

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Speaker 3: like missing all this social stuff that Richard's been blowing

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Speaker 3: perfect opportunity. And I think It's so sweet that Rory's

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Speaker 3: for the love of her grandmother, right right.

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Speaker 2: Is very funny.

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Speaker 4: The larealized point of view of it all is very

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be a part. I don't want

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Speaker 4: sees it like, you know, pleasing the grandma, but also

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Speaker 4: like it's just an event. It's just kind of she

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Speaker 4: doesn't lay all the layers into what it means actually,

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Speaker 4: you know, in a feminist point of view.

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Speaker 2: And you know, she says, other than the fan.

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Speaker 2: I think that was all.

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Speaker 4: So it's personal versus sort of meta, you know what

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Speaker 4: different generations, which is cool. You see the mom, you

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Speaker 5: All see it differently and it's so sweet because Rory

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Speaker 5: and you see so clearly this episode that Rory doesn't

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Speaker 5: And Laura I and her mom's relationship is so fraud

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Speaker 5: The sweetness of their relationship, and because they're so connected,

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Speaker 4: I never watched it in the pass so good to

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Speaker 5: Because I was thinking, like I was watching the scene

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Speaker 1: She gave us the time. She knew what she had,

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Speaker 2: It's so great. We haven't done the Diner yet.

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Speaker 1: So I had a very easy path to this show.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, yeah, you have to

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Speaker 5: You guys kept it professional, Andrew and I did not,

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Speaker 1: When I got the job, I was forty one, so

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Speaker 4: Yeah you're a grown up.

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Speaker 2: Let me just try that and see what happened. What's

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Speaker 4: I think that's a podcast right there, because it's just

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Speaker 1: Idea. Really, there's a lot of stories to be told.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of going there, Uh, Christopher and I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Someone, I'm living with someone, right.

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Speaker 1: So, lorele I gives a fantastic model trying to convince

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Speaker 4: So that shows like how he's like bailed in the

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Speaker 4: wonderful to see David Stutcliffe. I don't know if Laura

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Speaker 2: But I love that kind of like, you know, he

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Speaker 1: Right, But this begs the question, how does this absent

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Speaker 6: So they got it so great.

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Speaker 4: wants to get sucked into that fantasy.

443
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: So she's not going to like blow it by.

444
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: Him being responsible and saying nothing can happen because I

445
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: live with somebody. But I think, just as a writer,

446
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: you want to fall into that. But I also think,

447
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: like intentionally, I mean initially, maybe he goes, okay, I'm

448
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: going to show up it's the right thing to do.

449
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: But then I think being there and the whole dancing practice,

450
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: and then you know, actually being there and bringing that

451
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: new dictionary for her, his bookish daughter, and being there

452
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: in the present time, I'm sure he sees that, oh,

453
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: this really does mean something. It means something to me,

454
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: me being here.

455
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: So initially I think he's going through the motions, and

456
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: then he shows up and it affects him being there, right,

457
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 4: And that's why I have hope, Like, and now that

458
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 4: I know that Boston's like an hour away, Pops, it's

459
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: not like we're talking about across the country or anything,

460
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: and he should then I think that he will be

461
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: there more often because it added something to him.

462
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Right. So to reference the dictionary, it's it's it's from

463
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: an earlier it's from season one when he visited and

464
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: he wanted to buyer that dictionary in Stars Hollow and

465
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: his credit card had no money.

466
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: His credit card even better than.

467
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: So then he made up for it with them.

468
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: He's really coming to be a man.

469
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: But you know, that's a very good point, Daphne. You know,

470
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: the Paladinos didn't want to break the tension by giving

471
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: us that information that he had somebody, right, and they

472
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: sacrificed that character because he looked like kind of a jerk.

473
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: And you know, he is not well liked as a

474
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: character in this whole thing. I mean, there's some people

475
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: that really like him and they love the chemistry and

476
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But there are a lot of fans

477
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: that hate Christopher. I mean, there's a whole kind of

478
00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: a movement.

479
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Is he like a debt?

480
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: I mean to me, he seems like a dead, dead

481
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: beat dad quote unquote too much.

482
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a hateable character. He's a fair weather dad.

483
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: Right, and they know that and they sacrifice that character

484
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: in that way. All right, let's get Let's get to

485
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: Emily and Richard. H Richard's in a snit. He's through

486
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: the whole episode. He's critical of Emily's decision to have

487
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Rory come out of society. He's really, you know, acting

488
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: out of character here. You don't know why. Uh. Those

489
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: two are fighting a lot and you know, larel ized

490
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: enjoying the heck out of it. Uh. It's later revealed

491
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: that Richard is facing challenges at work. He's been removed

492
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: from an account he's handled for decades, and he's being

493
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: beginning to feel like he's getting phased out because, as

494
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: he said, he invented the phase out at his company.

495
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: In this particular storyline, he is being phased out right

496
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: maybe of his job, passion, his careers, community, all that stuff. Right,

497
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: So while Rory's being forced into hers right, So do

498
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: you think Richard watching Rory begin her life is adding

499
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: to the sadness of stress that he may be losing his.

500
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't read anything into that.

501
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: I I that was a very touching monologue that he had, though,

502
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: when he finally says to his wife invulnerability, you know,

503
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 4: which is how you really need to communicate with your spouse,

504
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: as opposed to the reaction of like fighting fighting, they

505
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: start out fighting fighting, fighting, And then I just thought, oh,

506
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: he's really he's the patriarch, you know, and he's saying

507
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: they're gonna get rid of me because am I am

508
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: aging out of this? And his terror about that and

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 4: his whole identify identity with what he does at that company,

510
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 4: and I so I just felt like he was on

511
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 4: a journey of his own fighting and then drinking too

512
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: much and pissed at everything and no one ever listens

513
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: to my problems.

514
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 2: And then he finally says his and she listens. He

515
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: looks at him for the first time. I didn't really

516
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: see that he was doing it.

517
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: In relation to well, he is sort of resenting all

518
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: that stuff, all the social obligations. He just feels like

519
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: that's you know, a byproduct of being this successful, you know,

520
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: wealthy family. That social stuff is just so meaningless, and

521
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: how he's you know, diminishing the importance of it, but

522
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: like it's just not important to him when something much

523
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: bigger is going on. Their whole existence and lifestyle is

524
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: being threatened by his job loss and.

525
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: Stuff, and every one of those events cost him one

526
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 4: hundred grand, you know, or fifty grand, I mean, just

527
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 4: to buy a table to show up.

528
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: It's not just like it's a couple hours out of

529
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: his life.

530
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 4: It's expensive to stay in that lifestyle and he can't

531
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: afford it.

532
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: Maybe forgets such a huge shift potentially.

533
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 5: I was relieved because it's been long enough since I've

534
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: seen the whole show that I thought is he having

535
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 5: an affair because he was sort of discounting and separating

536
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 5: himself an edgy. So when he said it was work,

537
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, thank god, thank god, is just

538
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 5: going to lose his job.

539
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: Oh thank god, he's just.

540
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: Going to lose his job.

541
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: But I you know, you know, we're all working people,

542
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: so we've been at that point where the money's not

543
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 5: coming in in the same way, but people have the

544
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 5: same expectation of you to spend it, and it's it's very,

545
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: very stressful when you see money going out and money

546
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 5: isn't coming in. So I knew why his nerves were afraid.

547
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: When he finally said it, it was like, Oh, of course, Yeah.

548
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: It stresses out relationships for sure. Yeah, yeah, it's tough, tough.

549
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: I do think now that we're getting into that storyline.

550
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 4: I love where we end with Laura I and her mom.

551
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: We'll get to that scene. It's lovely. It kind of

552
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: ties everything up. But did we have that with her dad?

553
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Did we have that Richard that moment.

554
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: I know that he says what he's really feeling, and

555
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: we understand what's going on with him really why he's

556
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: so tense and being a jerk. But does someone ever

557
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: come to him and have a kind of like closing

558
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 4: that up and going we'll get through this or something.

559
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: I support you, dad, no matter what. I don't remember,

560
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: isn't softened very often.

561
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: No, yeah, right, I don't know. I mean I've only

562
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: watched it one time through in my whole life.

563
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, anyway, I like that.

564
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: I think there I think there probably is. I can't

565
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: want to say yes that I think that there probably is.

566
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think it actually does turn into everything that

567
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: Richard was fearing. Right, he loses his job after this,

568
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: and it's a big turning point into like what his

569
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: life is because doesn't he like he goes into business,

570
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: he does.

571
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: This whole Jason styles, Jason styles things. He comes in

572
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: and like kind of kicks him out of his own company.

573
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: I think so.

574
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is really the beginning of a significant

575
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: storyline where everything hear, everything Richard fears, is coming true.

576
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: So it is it's not just half for this up that,

577
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: you know, there's always after that that threatening ending.

578
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: There's alway is something else.

579
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: And now we're we're at this moment she comes down

580
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: the stairs, she's presented Christopher's there. Uh, there's this camera

581
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: shot of the fan dance right from the debut, Laurels

582
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: standing and Laurel I standing in front of it. And

583
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: then that's when Emily says, tor that could have been

584
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: you out there. Nothing is turning out the way it's

585
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be.

586
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: Girls in our white ball gowns, girls waiting fans round

587
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: in a circle.

588
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

589
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Here's my opportunity to smash my daughter again.

590
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: It was so funny.

591
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, those two.

592
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: But it is I love I love that that was

593
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: a really like heartfelt moment from Emily, like she really

594
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: was living out her dreams for Laura l I through

595
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: in this moment. But the irony of having the fan

596
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: dance in the background, for that, it's really because it's absurd.

597
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: It really wasn't a slam at her daughter. I think

598
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: it was just real open, honest pain coming out in

599
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: a moment and wasn't meant to hurt her daughter. It

600
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: was just like almost like some heal my pain somehow. Yeah, daughter,

601
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Do you think Lorlai regrets it not having not gone

602
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: through that, Not at all.

603
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 6: I think that she.

604
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: I think that's a chasm. You know.

605
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: What would bring her closer with her mother would have

606
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: been into all that Daughters of the Revolution traditional stuff

607
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: that they have, and even to be a you know,

608
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 4: at this point, she'd love her to come to these

609
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: garden parties and have her own little you know, foundation

610
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: or something. I don't know.

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: I think the wistfulness is more like the relationship between

612
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Emily and Rory, Like that Emily's being able to have

613
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: this reallytionship with Rory and it seems sort of successfully

614
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: and it's like that that's a relationship that was missed

615
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: between Laura and Emily. And that's what I get the

616
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: sense of Laurai's wistful, her take on that it's like

617
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: almost proprietary, like, oh, this is my daughter, but you're

618
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: having this experience with your granddaughter the way maybe it's

619
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: just complicated.

620
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read it.

621
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 5: I heard it a similar way Laura, which is it's

622
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: that her mother would her mother still can't see her

623
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: right to say this could have been your She still

624
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: can't take her in and say you made this different choice.

625
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: What a beautiful life you have. She still is saying,

626
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: wouldn't it have been better if you did this thing?

627
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted for you.

628
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I saw.

629
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: I think.

630
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: One of the things I love about this show so

631
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: much is Laura Lai's willingness to keep showing up for

632
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: her mom and her parents, even though it's endlessly disappointing.

633
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: In some profound ways and letting Rory had this beautiful relationship.

634
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: I think it's just this sweet, like you get to

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: show up for imperfect family relationships with an open heart.

636
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: And it's such a sweet thing about this show. I

637
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: can't wait to watch it again.

638
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Right, especially that final scene of this episode.

639
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: Very touch yes, yes, such a beautiful.

640
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: Because you get that glimpse into the future, like my

641
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: mom's getting old, I'm gonna have to take care of her,

642
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: and I'm going to take care of her because I

643
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: love her still and we don't even have to talk

644
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: and we don't have to understand each other, but she's

645
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: my mom and it was it was really like a

646
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: choke up moment there.

647
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

648
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Well the scene before when she's talking to Rory, lorel

649
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: I says, you know, it's so nice that I have

650
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: someone I can talk to, and of course her daughter goes, yeahoo,

651
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: she's like very funny, shecky, and but they it shows

652
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: the friendship that they have, you know, and makes her

653
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: think my mom doesn't have that she has a husband

654
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: and they bicker and they fight, and that she doesn't.

655
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Have what I have and my daughter.

656
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: So I want to go be that from my mom,

657
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: and then she just shows up and just says, I'm

658
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: here if you just want to talk, you know, as

659
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: her mom's clipping those flowers, right, and it just ends

660
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: like a lovely possibility for the future, you know, like

661
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: maybe they will, you know, we don't have to talk.

662
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm just here. I'm just hanging. She's like, you're what

663
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm hanging?

664
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 6: What do you mean?

665
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: What's that?

666
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: I'm just going?

667
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: Is here?

668
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: You want to say anything?

669
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: You know.

670
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: So it's just the beginning of something I'm emerging.

671
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully, and it's and Richard Emiley, it's it's a depiction

672
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: of a real marriage, you know, warts and all right,

673
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: instead of this idealized, you know, false marriage. But this

674
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: is this is you know how it is. You know,

675
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: we're all I've been through this all right. Closing scene

676
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: in in that final scene, and you would think that's

677
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: a perfect ending to the episode. I thought that's when

678
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: the episode it was ending with just hanging, hanging, Yeah, hang, silence.

679
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, episode's over, I'm gonna se Amy's name

680
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: flash up a single card. Nope, there's more. Then we

681
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: get that closing scene they're getting burgers at Luke's. Lorela

682
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: and and Rory after the men peel off. You know,

683
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: Dean is exhausted from the old thing, and Christopher has

684
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: to get back to his lady. Uh there and burgers

685
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: and and we have that wonderful little Now she's back

686
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: in her real world, her comfortable world, right, her ordinary

687
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: world where it's wacky.

688
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: And you know it's real. It's casual flannel shirts, right, and.

689
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah you can be you right. And Luke is being

690
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: a dad to that kid like Milo. Yet it together,

691
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: get up there, you know, yelling at the kid, and

692
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, we're back, We're back where we belong.

693
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Relief.

694
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: And it's what are your thoughts on, Jess, what is he?

695
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: What does he bringing to the table here?

696
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: The kid?

697
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Is that miloh?

698
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, I just have to say I

699
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: played Milo's mother on American Dreams.

700
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: For for the last season.

701
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: I was a playboy, was a playboy playmate, well supervising bunny,

702
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: and he was my single mom.

703
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 6: He was my son.

704
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: Yes, she wasn't just a bunny, she was a supervising bunny.

705
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for clarifying.

706
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Additional qualifications are needed.

707
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: She's just older. I think she's a supervisor. She's older.

708
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: She's not a little bunny.

709
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 4: She's a mother bunny anyway, she was a single mom

710
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: with Milo was my son.

711
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: It was so fun, but it was so great to.

712
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: See him here and I loved and this scenery shows

713
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: up looking just like you, like, you know, like my

714
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: Metallica T shirt. We didn't talk about that scene, but

715
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: that ugly T shirt and then he shows up looking

716
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: like you and you.

717
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: Feel mocked, right, Luke looks like, yeah, very funny. It

718
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: was great.

719
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: It was a great move for jests.

720
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: And he's he's just appeared on the scene at this point, right, So,

721
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: like I I found him very charming and appealing and.

722
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: Like I knew he was trouble and I liked it,

723
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: you know, like I was.

724
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: I was. I was open to it, even though we're

725
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 3: supposed to really like, you know, sweet, perfect seeming dean

726
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: and worried together. I was totally open to the jests

727
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: of it all. And it was at that point it

728
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,479
Speaker 3: was fun.

729
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: I felt very sorry and I hated myself for it.

730
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: I know, I like, I know, this is.

731
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: I hate myselff for but he's so adorable and he's

732
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: so sexy and their chemistry was so good. But they

733
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: made him like a stinker at first, Like he was

734
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 5: such a stinker at first, but you're just kind of like, yeah,

735
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: maybe you don't stay there, but do it for a bit,

736
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 5: like like I didn't want because Dean is so sweet.

737
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he seems so good at that point. So

738
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: when Jess comes in and he's clearly acting out so.

739
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: Many ways, you're like we said, but he's he's smart.

740
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: They can talk about books like I.

741
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: Want it to play out.

742
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: At that point, I know, I guilt a little bit

743
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: bit of a guilty.

744
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like.

745
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: He's the bad boy.

746
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the bad boy, and that's every girl

747
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: you're supposed to have. The good, good, handsome guy goes

748
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: to the Debutan Ball and then there's this jazz you know.

749
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean, right, he didn't know what Luke was when

750
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: he was younger.

751
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't really cross the line, though. Jess

752
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: just messed it all up, like all right, too much Bundy, Like.

753
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: From right away he did, Yeah you got you got

754
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando and the Wild Ones Hybrid with James Dean

755
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: and there's Jess right y, like those two had a kid,

756
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: Jess Trump.

757
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they really let him act out. I admire that

758
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 5: about the show, that they really let people be complicated.

759
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: Like you said, the marriage Richard Nermley's marriage is a

760
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: real marriage. That's a fight in a long term marriage.

761
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 5: They really allowed you guys to be messy, mad, frustrated,

762
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: like so that the audience you kind of felt like,

763
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: I don't know how far this is going to go.

764
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: You don't have that sort of safety net of this

765
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 5: is a good character. They won't make mistakes like people

766
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 5: make mistakes all over the place.

767
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: Right, So, since I'm the only one who haven't seen it,

768
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: what are we talking about Jess doing after this episode?

769
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: He did every way to screw it up.

770
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: He screwed it up.

771
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so he got someone pregnant, he I don't think

772
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: he did that.

773
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: And he crashed her car, I think, And and yeah,

774
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: he was just a jerk about it too, Like everything

775
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: that he did, he was also really like entitled jerk

776
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: about it.

777
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: Right.

778
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: I was like that was disappointing. It's like, come on,

779
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: I thought you were just going.

780
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: To toe the right bad boy line and then he

781
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: just crossed it.

782
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 6: All.

783
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Right, let's let's talk about Melrose Place.

784
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, speaking a bad boy and our podcast still

785
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: the place now we talk about that too, Still the Place.

786
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: Every Monday, and then we have a Melrose Minute on Thursdays. Yes,

787
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: go ahead, Scott.

788
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: So as you're watching Melrose Place, are you're all seeing

789
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: it differently now than you did? And what really stands

790
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: out to you? Mm hmmm.

791
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: We're fans. We got to see we get to see

792
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: now thirty something years later. What I get to see

793
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: I'll speak for myself, Daphne as Joe. I get to

794
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: see what the fans liked about it, you know, because

795
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: when we were shooting it, as you know, you just

796
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: get in, you have all those lines, you're like working,

797
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: you're in the trenches. And now we get to sit

798
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: back and oh, it's just really fun to be in

799
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: a relaxed way, watch the stories and you know, reveal themselves.

800
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: It's really that's what I like about it.

801
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: It's I get to be a fan of the show.

802
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: It's a really well written show for what it is.

803
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: That's what I have found.

804
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Did you watch it as you were filming it?

805
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: Not much?

806
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: No?

807
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 6: No, no, you can't.

808
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: Also, I'm self conscious now thirty years later, can you

809
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: imagine ever watch it?

810
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: But do you feel it's like a different I watched

811
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: this now because I never watched it when I was

812
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: shooting because we were there so much. And you know,

813
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: it's like I always said, I make the sausage, I

814
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: don't want to eat it. No thanks, it's not for me.

815
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: But now that I'm watching it since like two thousand

816
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: and one, it's like a different person. It's a time capsule,

817
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: it is, and I feel okay watching it because I

818
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: don't rely to that guy anymore. He's like a different guy.

819
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: So I get this, so I get to watch it,

820
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: enjoy it, and be a little more objective about it.

821
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: That's exactly what's stuck out for me is that it

822
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: is such a look at our youth, like it's captured

823
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: on film and we're just like, these are super young

824
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: kids and we're just you know, so much has happened

825
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: and so many years of appen and since then that

826
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: it is like watching somebody else. And I also thought

827
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: about that watching Gilmore Girls, that for Alexis it must

828
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: be so weird. It was like her.

829
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: Childhood because she was she.

830
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Was eighteen and she just grew up in front of

831
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: the camera and on this show and it's captured and

832
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: it's like it really happened that way for her, and

833
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: so what a what a weird.

834
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 5: Unique and wonderful thing to have, like to look back on. Yeah,

835
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: we weren't that much older. I mean I was twenty

836
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: four we started my road.

837
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: But the distance maybe between when we did our show

838
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: and now is much greater.

839
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: So I mean definitely seems like a way back to what.

840
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: You were doing, what we did in ninety two. Ours

841
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: was ninety two, so we're cars. We're almost a full

842
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: decade before we started shooting in ninety two. So that's

843
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: what we're watching right now, the first season. So we

844
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: were this is thirty what someone do the math? Well

845
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: thirty five forty years ago, so long ago, thirty thirty three.

846
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So fashion wise, like I as we're talking about it,

847
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: like I didn't even notice watching your show the clothes

848
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 5: because they're so normal and everybody look normal, Like we

849
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: have huge shoulder pads and voluminous pants, and well you're

850
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 5: Alison did stuff.

851
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: Her character did terrible problem with shoulder pads.

852
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's not as much of that. Like your

853
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 5: show feels really current. Goimore Girls feels very current. Also,

854
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 5: the writing was so ahead of its time that that's

855
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 5: going to stay current forever. We feel very nineties. Melrose

856
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 5: feels of very dated in nineties, very nineties.

857
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun, right right right? Where would you all

858
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: like to see your Melrose plays characters?

859
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 4: Now?

860
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: What do you think they ended up?

861
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Well, half of us would have to come back from

862
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: the dead to answer the question. Well, I maybe not

863
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: half of us, but I'll just.

864
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Raise my hand.

865
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: How did you die? How they killed you all?

866
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: They killed me off at the end of my contract

867
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: at the end of season five. I was hit by

868
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: a car in the season finale, in the last shot

869
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: of the episode, I was finally getting married and finally

870
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: finding happiness, and I was in my wedding dress and

871
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: I was hit by a runaway car in another storyline.

872
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: Those two storylines collided and my body, the stunt woman's

873
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: body went tumbling over the roof of the car and

874
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: splatters on the ground and the crane shot pulls up

875
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: and that was my that was my?

876
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: Was there blood light coming out of your head? You remember?

877
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: Probably that Caro, there might have been. I just remember

878
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: that you're lying down. I had like to stick It

879
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: was nice, right, Laura, Like probably two in the morning

880
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: was probably horrible, and it was sticky. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night.

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Speaker 3: I just do remember I had to like twist my

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00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: legs in a weird way to make it I had

884
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Speaker 3: just been smashed.

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Speaker 2: But the weird thing was.

886
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Speaker 3: A couple Well about ten years later, maybe not quite no,

887
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: not quite ten years later, I was at a at

888
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: an elementary school like assembly event, and I realized, wait,

889
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 3: I've been inside this church before. My kid was going

890
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: to the elementary school within the like the property where

891
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: this church was, and out on the lawn where my

892
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: character had had her.

893
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: Demise were Oh my gosh, my kid ended up going

894
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: to school.

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00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: There's very Yeah, there was no plaque, nothing to commemorate

896
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: since no plaque.

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00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Small world.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so let's there's final question. Okay, because we

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Speaker 1: got to wrap this up and I don't want to,

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00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: but we have to. What character on Gilmour can you

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00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: relate to the most Daphne? Go ahead?

902
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: You know, I my parents divorced when I was six,

903
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: and my sister and I grew up mostly with my mom.

904
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: And I realized watching the show I was my mom

905
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 4: was young, very young, and more like a friend.

906
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: To my sister and me.

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00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: So I mean, I remember sitting at home in my

908
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: dining room when I was in high school and looking

909
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: at my mother in the kitchen and going, how come

910
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: she doesn't feel like a mother?

911
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: How comes she feels like a friend? I mean, I

912
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: had that thought. So I relate to this dynamic and

913
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: this this the age of these So I mean I

914
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: relate most to Lourlai.

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00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: I do because I've also you know, I just I

916
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: can't relate to Rory because right, she's too young for me.

917
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: But I do.

918
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: I was that Rory character as a kid.

919
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: I would have to say Courtney, Yeah, I feel like Daphne.

920
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 5: I feel like Loralai and Rory. This is the thing

921
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 5: with great characters, right, Like I have the earnestness of Rory,

922
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 5: but I feel like Larela is just so relatable. And

923
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 5: I think too, it's kind of aspirationally relatable, Like I

924
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: want to be that funny and charming and quick talking like.

925
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: And wear those dresses every single day and look amazing.

926
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, be that adorable. I think the truth is I

927
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: probably am more like Rory, but I want to be

928
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: more like Laura. I So that's probably the truth of it, law, And.

929
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: I think I relate.

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00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly relate because I came to the show later.

931
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it in real time because I was

932
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: having babies and just busy doing that that I and

933
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: then my older daughters weren't quite old enough to be

934
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: watching the show when I was, so I wasn't watching it.

935
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: So I came to it later when my daughters were

936
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: old enough, and so I really watched it through the

937
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: mom lens, and so I of course relate to Laura.

938
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: I also also grew up I had a single mom,

939
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: and so that relationship is really familiar to me. But

940
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: I also I am such a fan of the Emily character,

941
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: and I see her as another mom with other like

942
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: sort of mom issues that I have such a soft spot.

943
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 3: I love the character. I don't know if it's related

944
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: to as much as I just adore the character.

945
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Speaker 1: Laurel and Courtney Thorne Smith Daphne's Anita. Thank you so

946
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: very much. It was a thrill to talk to you,

947
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: getting to know you. I've never met anybody. I've never

948
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: met you before. Please come back on the podcast, check

949
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: in with us. Well, let's do another episode together, And

950
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: thank you for your time and know how busy you are.

951
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, joining us my pleasure and that is

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Speaker 1: going to wrap it up here. Best fans on the planet,

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Speaker 1: keep the cards and letters, comment, and remember where.

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Speaker 6: You lead, we will follow.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Stay safe everyone, everybody, and don't forget Follow us

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