1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage you 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: to go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure you don't 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: miss a single minute of this show, which is fighting 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: for sanity in an insane world every single day. We 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: appreciate those of you hanging out with us all over 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the country and also everybody listening on the podcast right 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: now at your leisure. And Buck, we were right on 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: probably the most consequential decision of the twenty first century, 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: which was, how do we respond to COVID in this country. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: Give me a massive number of people that are out 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: there listening to us. And unfortunately, as we have continued 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: to discuss the fallout of the wrongheaded decisions by the 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: lockdown crowd, by people who wanted to shut down schools, 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: by the people who insisted that you wear masks everywhere, 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: all of that fallout, and unfortunately it's continuing as young 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: kids in New York City are forced to continue to 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: wear masks. Two year olds are still massed up in 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: New York City. But I saw this study and it 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: gives me some measure of hope that as we continue 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: to move through this, there's going to be a reckoning, 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: and the reckoning needs to happen in November at the 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: ballot box. But also the reckoning needs to happen in 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: terms of people having to acknowledge that they're chosen heroes. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: The Doctor Fauci's of the world failed them. And I 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: am encouraged in some level buck by this because some 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: of the places that are putting out these studies. This 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: is not right wing news dot com right, this is 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: not a necessarily outlet that you would anticipate would be 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: coming out with this study, and the one that I'm 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: referencing today just came out got a lot of attention 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: so far. This morning. Harvard did a study and Education 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: and the impact of lockdowns and remote learning, that oxymoron 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of remote learning, and they found that gaps in quote, 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: math achievement by race and school poverty, which skyrocketed all 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: over the country predominantly in blue states, didn't widen in 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: school districts like Florida and Texas that mostly kept schools open, 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: two biggest red states in the country, Florida and Texas. 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: And I'm reading directly from their study. Interestingly, gaps in 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: math achievement did not widen in school districts in Texas 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: and Florida. Where schools remained in person, gaps did not widen. 43 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: This is racial and socioeconomic gaps. Where schools shifted to 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: remote learning, gaps widened sharply. Shifting to remote instruction was 45 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: like turning a switch on a critical piece of our 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: social infrastructured we'd taken for granted. Our findings imply public 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: schools truly are the balance wheel of social machinery, and 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: that that was broken by our COVID responses. So, Buck, 49 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: one of the things that needs to happen is a reckoning, 50 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: and I believe that reckoning hopefully will start in November. 51 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: But also, these people who argued you don't want to 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: be on the wrong side of history, Buck, they are 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: going to be on the wrong side of history in 54 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: their response to COVID. It's just a question of how 55 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: long it will take for this to become consensus opinion. 56 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: But for the Rhn decantis Is of the world and 57 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: the Greg Abbots, both of whom are up for reelection. 58 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening to us in Florida and Texas as 59 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: many of you are. You need to be sharing this 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: data with your suburban mother friends, with your friends who 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: are willing to be persuadable, and we need absolute landslides 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: in this state to ratify the decisions that were made 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: in these states. You know, I also down this data 64 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: that was shared on the stats website Nate Silver's five 65 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight about trust in science? Did you saw this graphic? Fascinating? 66 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Just so I can explain to everybody who's listening, I 67 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: wish I could show you this graphic, but starting in 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: about this is the share of Americans who said they 69 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: had a great deal of confidence in the scientific community 70 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: by party affiliation from nineteen seventy three to twenty twenty one. 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: The graphic is fascinating because Democrats and Republicans are basically 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: both in the forty percent range, up and down a 73 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: little bit here and there in nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties, 74 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, not a lot of change. It's sort of 75 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans roughly call it a little you know, 76 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: it's usually less than half. I'd say, you know, forty 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: five percent of Republicans had faith in science until about 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and then it dropped down a little bit 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: forty percent of Democrats, and it actually dropped down quite 80 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: a bit lower a few times. But anyway, overall it's 81 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: in the pies. You get to the pandemic and people 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: who say they have trust in science skyrockets like hockey 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: stick graph straight up a stock going from one dollar 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: to a thousand dollars. That's what it looks like. All 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Democrats go way up to sixty five 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: percent and Republicans start dropping off down into the thirties 87 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: at the start of the pandemic. And you can see 88 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: it by the way, the Democrat line is almost a 89 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: straight line up, meaning that there was What this is 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: showing you, and this is why I think it's so fascinating, 91 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: is that it was a political designation. This was not 92 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: about what could Because it starts at the beginning of 93 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: the pandemic. All of a sudden, Democrats decided where the 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Science party, and this became a personal branding issue for them. 95 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: And what I think is so fascinating is that if 96 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: you go back and look at Marxism, which has a 97 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: lot of similarities with the left to the Democrat Party, 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: If you go back and look at Marxism. It is 99 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a religion that pretends to be a science, and the 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: language that it uses and the pretense of the Marxists 101 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: all along was to try to create the notion that 102 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: this is actually just scientific reality that they're putting through 103 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: a social theory, when in fact it's really a religious 104 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: belief that they're pretending is somehow rooted in reality, fact 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: and the inevitability of truth. And you see this with 106 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats. It's the same thing. Science for them became 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: a political rallying cry and the way that they all 108 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden identified with I believe in the science, 109 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: and I'd be fascinating to see, I bet Clay, they 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: haven't hasn't dropped off because they don't want to believe 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: that they were part of this mob mentality of Fouc 112 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: she's a genius when he's really a moron. Well, you 113 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: and I have talked about before, Buck. The thing that 114 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: really gets these left wing people really triggered is the 115 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: idea that they're dumb. Right, Like they can handle almost 116 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: any other criticism, but the idea that they are a sheep, 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the idea that they are dumb, the idea that they 118 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: have behaved in an anti science manner, and I thought 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: there was a perfect metaphor. I was watching Saturday night 120 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors playing against Memphis Grizzlies. NBA playoffs 121 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: are going on. My kids are big job Morant fans, 122 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: so we're sitting around watching this game. One guy in 123 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: a twenty thousand seat arena in San Francisco just about 124 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: buck is wearing his mask. You know who that was? 125 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: King NBA lib Steve Kerr. He would wear his mask. 126 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the Golden State Warriors. Twenty 127 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: thousand seat arena. Virtually no one you could see wearing 128 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a mask. Steve Kerr is the head coach. Is wearing 129 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: his mask, and what's he doing? Constantly pulling the mask 130 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: down to yell out instructions to his team and then 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: pull the mask back up. There is no way to 132 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: justify wearing the mask. And I thought to myself, this 133 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: is Steve Kerr making it clear to all of the 134 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: left wing lunatics out there that he is their champion. 135 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: He is their ride or die. Because I'm sitting there 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: watching this and I'm gonna watch it again on Monday 137 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: night and I'll probably tweet about it because I didn't 138 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: tweet about it on Saturday night. But I'm watching this 139 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: because I want to take a picture of it. There's 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: no one that you can see around him Buck wearing 141 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the mask, and he's regularly constantly pulling it down because 142 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: you can't hear what anybody says when they're wearing a mask, right, 143 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: especially in a crowded arena where everybody's yelling. And I'm 144 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, he thinks, and he is sending the 145 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: message of I am doing what the science dictates, even 146 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: though he looks like an absolute and complete moron by 147 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: doing this. This is like people who this is the 148 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: same the same scientific mentality you could say, as somebody 149 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: who thinks that they're protecting themselves effectively from a very 150 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: contagious venereal disease by taking the phylactic device on and 151 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: off many times over the course of their session. You know, 152 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: take it on and take it off, Take it on, 153 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: take off. I'm protected kind of. No, you're not. Actually, 154 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: you're wasting your time with this, which is the same 155 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: thing that you had had with planes and the mask 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: up between bites and I mean, I am still almost 157 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: in all the stupidity of the delta Airlines flight attendant 158 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I have I had just a few weeks ago, maybe 159 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a month ago, who was saying that people were taking 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: wasn't just me? So people say, oh, it's because she 161 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: knows you. No, no, no, anybody who was taking too 162 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: long between bites. She thought she was keeping us safe 163 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: by saying, sir, you've that's enough, Like that's enough time 164 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: between bites. You need to mask up in between bites. 165 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: These are people who are mentally ill. They actually have. 166 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: This is like people who will not go at This 167 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: is like agoraphobia. They will not go outside. They almost 168 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: have a fear of breathing fresh air and not having 169 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the mask on their face. In fact, I think we 170 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: should come up with some term of phobia without map skiing, 171 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: because that's what this really is. I'll have to look 172 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: at what the uh what the Greek would be on this, 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the ancient Greek. Well, and to your point, did you 174 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: see and we need to talk about this too, because 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just so ridiculous. But I'll give a little bit 176 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: of a tease here for later in the show. Did 177 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you see the idiot uh MD online who said, as 178 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: soon as masks are removed on airplanes, I want to 179 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: read her tweet here. As we get ready to finish 180 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the cancelations everywhere, everyone's gonna get canceled. Every everything on 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: the planet basically is going to get canceled. Uh, you're 182 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to fly anywhere, all of 183 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: this ridiculousness and uh, and it completely fell apart. I'm sorry. 184 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I thought you want to. Should we tease it? 185 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Should we play the tease game? And I'll read this 186 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: twee when we come back. Let's play when we come back. 187 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: What I's gonna say? It's nice, right, you and me 188 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: and this audience can sleep well at night knowing that 189 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: we were not the jackasses for two years who thought 190 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: that all this stuff was a good idea. I'm just 191 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna say, there should be some real solid tape in 192 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: we were right, they were wrong, and that does have 193 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: its own its own it has its own reward. But 194 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: I want the scoreboard to reflect it. And that's why 195 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: November needs to be So. I want CNN and MSNB 196 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: siging literal tiers curling down their cheeks. I want Walter 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: curled up in a ball in the corner asking Mommy 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: to make it stop. As those election returns come in, 199 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: and I want and I know you're in New York City, 200 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: but I want all those people living in New York 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: in LA who have no idea how the rest of 202 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: the country is living, to be trying to explain what 203 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the national electorate is saying. When I feel like living 204 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: here in Nashville and traveling around for college football games, 205 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: which to me is the heartbeat of America, I feel 206 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: like I have my finger on the pulse of America 207 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,239 Speaker 1: really really well. And this destruction that is coming in November, 208 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: I think it is going to blow the minds of 209 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: the East and West coast lives and they're not going 210 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: to be able to really understand what the message. It's 211 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: the only way to restore balance, it's the only way 212 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: to restore sanity. Actually, if if it doesn't happen, we're 213 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: in trouble as a country, no doubt. 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Welcome back to clay Anne Buck. 242 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined here in just a couple of 243 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: minutes by Carrie Severino, Judicial Crisis Network President, former Clerk 244 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: to Justice Clarence Thomas. Will drill down in the latest 245 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: and the fighting over this Supreme Court decision, the pending decision. Still, 246 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I think that's gotten lost in some of this conversation. 247 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: They obviously leak the draft because there's a desire. I 248 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: am seeing some efforts to say it's a conservative who 249 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: leaked it. No, doesn't make sense, doesn't doesn't hold together. 250 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: This would be he would leak it if you're a conservative, 251 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: if it was going to go the other way. Maybe, 252 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't make any sense to leak this at 253 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: this stage. And by the way, leaking is bad and 254 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: nobody should do that in this context. But the justices 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: are getting additional security now. People are recognized and I 256 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: think recognizing that this is going to keep getting more tense. 257 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: This is going to get uglier the longer this drags out. 258 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: So we'll be discussing that in just a couple of 259 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: moments here. But I'm gonna be flying this weekend, and 260 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: if anybody has any Chicago recommendations for me, I've never 261 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: been to Now. I flown to the airport, and I 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: did once go from the airport to like a holiday 263 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: in five minutes from the airport, But I have I've 264 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: never set foot in Chicago proper in my life, and 265 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: as a New Yorker, as somebody who's I've been to 266 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: a Rock more times and Afghanistan more time, several more 267 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: times over that I have to Chicago. Like I just realized, 268 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I've been to every other great American 269 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: city I think, pretty much that I can think of 270 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: at this point large I should say large American city. 271 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, I just got to Tuscaloosa for the first 272 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: time this year. You've never been to the state of Alabama, right, 273 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: But again that's a smaller that's that's more of a 274 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: midsize city. But for every I've been to every large 275 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: American city except Chicago. If you have any recommendations for Chicago, 276 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: by all means, hit me up, send me a message 277 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: on Facebook or a tweet at me. But Clay, I 278 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: will be flying free faced if you will. My face 279 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: will be free of the mask, which I have not 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: experienced it. I'm very excited about this, and they're in 281 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: There are not mask cancelations. It turns out, despite the 282 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: tweet read tell everybody about this MD blue check doctor first. 283 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: First of all, by the way, lou mil Naughties and 284 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I may be mispronouncing that great Chicago deep dish pizza. 285 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: So you as great for your co host with Celiac disease. 286 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: You give them a pizzeria, well done, play high five. 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they can do a special one that that that 288 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: that you can just give me the cheese I have. 289 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: The melted cheese. Lou mil Naughties is incredible, all right. 290 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: So so yeah, well for most people that would be 291 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: a big that would be a big drawl. Denise de 292 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Wald MD, I'm not an MD. I don't have one 293 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: after my name on Twitter. As I've been told quite 294 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: a few times, She tweeted out as soon as the 295 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: mask mandate on airplanes was taken away, all I'm gonna 296 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: say is this, expect a lot of canceled flights because 297 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: of staff's shortages and finding a rental car will be 298 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: be like and she used a gift debate it impossible. 299 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: By the way, buck, I went through and read these 300 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: comments and it's like living in a different world. Eighty 301 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: thousand likes on this woman's tweet about how every her 302 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: medical opinion is that everyone is going to have issues 303 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: over this. Now. Our friend Ian Miller, who has a 304 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: great book, Unmasked, I believe we've had him on the 305 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: show several times, he points out. Nearly three weeks after 306 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Twitter and CNN experts claimed US airlines would see mass 307 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: cancelations due to maskless travel, yesterday Jet Blue canceled zero 308 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: percent of flights, Delta one percent, American zero percent, United 309 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: zero percent, and Southwest zero percent. 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She's 337 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Judicial Crisis Networks President and a former clerk to Justice 338 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas. So, Carrie, you have been a Supreme Court clerk, 339 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: and I went to law school, but I was nowhere 340 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: near smart enough to be a Supreme Court clerk. So 341 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: you will know and understand to an unbelievable degree, what 342 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: was your reaction when you saw news that this Alito 343 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: draft opinion had leaked? How stunning was it? Contextualize it 344 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: for us for those of us who will not have 345 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: experienced what being a clerk and working at the Supreme Court, 346 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that was utterly jaw dropping to see 347 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: not just even a leak about, Hey, we think this 348 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: is what the votes are, this direction of going, but 349 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: like an entire draft opinion as circulated the Justice is 350 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: so much though that, like other clerks I know said, 351 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: they just they've literally said, this have to be a fake. 352 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: There's no way it could be real because that would 353 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: never happen. So until the Chief Justice confirmed it, they 354 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: were like, Nope, can't I I just don't believe it. 355 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: When we were when I was clerking, it was like 356 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: you could not have ever left the building with a 357 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: piece of paper like that, and the only thing you 358 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: could I could take out like if I wanted to 359 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: do work at home in the evening with the filings 360 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: and the things that had been already publicly filed for 361 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: the court, so I could do my background reading. But 362 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: that's it. Any internal documents never left the building in 363 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, paper form, in digital form, nada. So the idea, 364 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: and you know, well Congress is always leaking in the 365 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: White House is always leaking the Supreme Court, it just 366 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Thinking about it, like Bush versus Gore, most 367 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: controversial case that certainly that decade, probably in many decades, 368 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: very tense. I heard clerks were like literally getting into fights, 369 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: like physical fight over how upset they were about this case. 370 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: And we didn't have a draft opinion for that. Did 371 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: we didn't. I don't even think we had a like 372 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: here's what the vote's going to be leak. So this 373 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: is completely novel for the Supreme Court to have something 374 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: like this, And I think it's going to be a 375 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: long time, if ever, that the Court and their internal 376 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: processes can recover from something like this, let alone the 377 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: threats to the justices that have been triggered by this 378 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: type of league, Carrie, So immediately when the league happens, 379 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of us out there start trying to analyze 380 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: who the leaker might be, and it's informed speculation to 381 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: a certain degree, but nowhere near like what I imagine 382 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court clerk text chains were, like, how would 383 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: you assess where this leak was likely to come from? 384 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: What did you and your former Supreme Court clerk colleagues 385 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: think in terms of analyzing this when you saw the 386 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: story so well, our immediate assumption is this has got 387 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: to be a leak from one of the liberal clerks. 388 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people assume that maybe someone 389 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: like a clerk in justice, so to my Oris Chamber, 390 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: because she seems to particularly you know, on fire about 391 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: this issue and just perceived as being a little more 392 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: political than some of the others, but obviously not based 393 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: on any real information. Just like, wow, this seems what 394 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: the kind of thing they might do. And I think 395 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: you saw people on the right and the left presuming 396 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: that this was a liberal clerk leaking it in order 397 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: to try to impact the court, in order to try 398 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: to trigger exactly the types of protests that we're seeing 399 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: right now, in the hopes of impact the justices. And 400 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe a nice way putting it, I 401 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: would say more threatening and intimidating the justices if it's 402 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: coming from that side, because there's the difference between an 403 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: opinion being leaked before it comes out and afterwards it's now. 404 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: This is not just people saying I'm really upset about this. 405 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: It's trying to say they're upset about it in a 406 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: way that will influence the justice is to change their opinion, 407 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: whether that's based on just purely seeing outrage or based 408 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: on the implicit threats that come of like protesting and 409 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: set in front of someone's private residence. Hey Carrie, fuck. 410 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, the statutes pretty clear on this. This is 411 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: not legal what they are doing, and I'm wondering what 412 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: the explanation is for why this is allowed to continue. 413 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: My understanding, it's not illegal. It's not legal under Virginia 414 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: state law. And also on the federal side, judicial tampering. 415 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, think think about it this way. If if 416 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: there was a drug dealer, let's say, who was facing 417 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: life in prison, you know, a drug kingpin, and he 418 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: had ten of his guys standing outside of the judge's 419 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: home waving signs saying you know, you better watch out. 420 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Every would say, well, that's judicial intimidation. Why isn't this 421 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: judicial intimidation? Well, I really think it is. I mean, 422 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: what can the kind of stuff that's going on here 423 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: is it is not just limited to hey, we want 424 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: to you know, express that we're annoying your opinion. It's 425 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: we want you to change your vote. And that is 426 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: effect attempting to affect the direction of the court. And 427 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: that again is assuming, um, I think the best of 428 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: motive because it worst case scenario. I mean we've we've 429 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: heard that Justice Alito had not is not returning to 430 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: his home and is relocated to a different secure location. 431 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is really disturbing. And what's even more 432 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: disturbing is seeing the response from the White House and 433 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: their refusal to condemn the idea of justices protesting at 434 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: the private residences of these justices, some of whom have 435 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: young children, right, So, I mean, this is this is 436 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: a really outrageous thing. Um. You know, over the weekend 437 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: there were so much outraged that I think they tried 438 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: to walk it back a little bit. They still they said, well, 439 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: of course, we want them to just be peaceful and 440 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: and no not no threats or anything. It took them 441 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: four days to even say that much before. They were 442 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: just like, Oh, these is they're very passionate, like, let's 443 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: let's let them protest. I think there's absolutely a place 444 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: for protesting, for making your voice heard, but that place 445 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: is in the public sphere, in front of the Supreme Court, 446 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: in front of you know, things like that, not in 447 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: front of someone's private home. We're talking to Kerry Savarino, 448 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: Judicial Crisis Network President, former Clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas. Okay, Kerry, So, 449 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: if you had a magic wand and you could waive 450 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: it right now, we don't know what Chief Justice Roberts 451 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: is going to do right now. It's a five to 452 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: four it appears majority. Should they expedite the release of 453 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: this opinion? Given the danger that may be out there 454 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: for the conservative clerk, the conservative justice is also probably 455 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: the conservative clerks, and the overall atmosphere surrounding the Supreme 456 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Court is that the wrong decision. Should Chief Justice Roberts 457 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: join on to keep this from being a five to 458 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: four decision? You have a magic wand, what's the best 459 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: way to restore some form of credibility and normalcy to 460 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: the court in the wake of this league? Wow, if 461 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I've done a magic wand let's make it nine zero 462 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: while we're at right. You know, I think the Chief 463 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: Justice is said, I don't want to do anything differently 464 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: because of the league. But I think that's that's as 465 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a miss conception of what's 466 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: going on here. I think you shouldn't change your vote 467 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: because of a league. I am absolutely in favor of that, 468 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: But I think under the circumstances, you know, the Court, 469 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: the Court can expedite opinions when they recognize there's a 470 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: serious reason to do so. They did that with the 471 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Texas Heartbeat bill. That goat opinion came out in like 472 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: fifty days, which is lightning fast for a significant Supreme 473 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: Court decision to come out. They clearly put some you know, 474 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: put the heat on and and got that out. They 475 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: could do that here, especially because we know there's already 476 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: a complete draft. Now we don't know there could have 477 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: easily we're talking about months in between February when this 478 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: was passed around to the justices and maybe when it 479 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: was leaked, so there they already could have made a 480 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of you know edits in between. There could have 481 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: been justice and saying hey, let's you know what they 482 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: can ask for anything from like I'd rather phrase this 483 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: differently or move this comma to hey, let's add this 484 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: argument or take out this one. So we don't really 485 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: know what the current version the justices are working at with, 486 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: but I would say, guys, get your act together. That signed. 487 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: As long as once all five justices sign on, they 488 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: could theoretically release it, even if the descent wasn't ready. 489 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: They could say, Okay, you know what, the dissenting opinions 490 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: is going to come out when they're when the number 491 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: of justices or in the descent are all agreed on it, 492 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: or they could they could lean on those justices, especially 493 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: since their colleagues are actually being put I think in 494 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: physical danger as a result of this. I would hope 495 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: that all the justices would say, you know what, let's 496 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: let's put this to the top of our pile, get 497 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: this done right now and get it out and then um, 498 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: you know, some of that pressures off. There's still going 499 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: to be people outraged about the opinion. Frankly, whatever ends 500 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: up happening with it, it's not going to be one 501 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: of those opinions that just yeah, carried. How concerned are 502 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: you that we could actually see a flip and that 503 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: it would go five four in the other direction and 504 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: effectively the leak and pressure campaign and threats would have 505 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: been successful. Well, you know what, I hope and I 506 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: really do think that the nature of how how outrageous 507 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: this was for the justices would um would fortify this 508 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: mind of any who were who are considering. You know 509 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe this kind of outrage would be something 510 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: that I would not want to see. Maybe they maybe 511 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: they didn't want to see, and I think none of 512 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: the justices wanted to see want to see this type 513 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: of activity. But um, I would hope this would never 514 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: be something that would make them switch their votes. Now 515 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: we know they have life tenure under the Constitution specifically 516 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: to allow them to have that independence to not have 517 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: to be looking at the outside effects. Although obviously you 518 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: know when you have actual threats and things that that 519 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: changes that whether you're at life tenure or not. Right, 520 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: But um, but I would hope that they would they 521 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: would be able to stay firm. Again, I would love 522 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: it if the Chief Justice said, you know what I'm 523 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to join this opinion just to make 524 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the points that I'm not gonna not gonna be bullied 525 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: by by these things, and I think recognizing too that 526 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, trying trying to uphold Row is 527 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: simply not legally plausible if you're off holding in the 528 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: Misissippi LA as well. It's just completely at odds with 529 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: that decision. 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We'll talk to her 566 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: about a lot of things, including this formula, this baby 567 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: formula shortage. That's it's not like baby formula has gone up, 568 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five cents or something. People can't get it, 569 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: They can't find it. Parents are creating these online communication groups, 570 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: these these chat rooms, etc. To try to find it, 571 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: to try to post about Hey, I'm running out, I 572 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: need baby. It's it's really becoming a big problem a 573 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of places across the country, obviously creating tremendous stress 574 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: on parents who I can imagine, especially with a young child, 575 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: they're already dealing with a lot of stress. We'll talk 576 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: to her about that and everything going on in politics 577 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: here as well. But this was great. Clay sent this 578 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: to me because it's a little part of it. The 579 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: same way that I appreciate what Brian Stelter the view 580 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman's maniacal, lunatic but kind of sad tweets like, 581 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate what they bring to the table for us, right, 582 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: because yes, sometimes you just need a slow pitch down 583 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the middle, so you can crack it in the upper 584 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: stands and impress the girlfriend of the wife, you know 585 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. Sometime and they provide that slow pitches 586 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: down the middle for conservative commentary. Jen Saki and my 587 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: Gosh is also in that category, and she is she 588 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: has left I believe her role as White House Press secretary. 589 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: She has been replaced by Krene Jean Pierre, who has 590 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: formerly been with move on dot Org. So she was 591 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: at move on dot org, which is just a left 592 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: wing hack outfit. We all know move on dot org. 593 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: I believe move on dot Org started from move on 594 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: from the Clinton lying under oath. That's what that's where 595 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: we're supposed to move on from. I mean this, I'm 596 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: going deep into my conservative knowledge. I didn't know that. 597 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what it started from. And so 598 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: it goes back away as left wing group. But Clay 599 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: sent me these and this is up on Fox News 600 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: some amazing previous beliefs and statements like for example, she's 601 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: tweeted out that Brett Kavanaugh should not be coaching girls basketball. Okay, 602 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: if Brett Kavanaugh indeed does not know the difference between 603 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: intercourse and sexual assault, that should disqualify him from being 604 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. She I mean, there's a lot 605 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: of things in here, folks, we could She claimed the 606 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen governor's race was stolen from Stacy Abrams. But 607 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: this one, check this out. The third accuser of Kavanaugh, 608 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: Julie sweat Nick, was a lunatic. I mean that was 609 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: obvious to don't even who watched her interviews. Who un 610 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: legitimate crazy, like a crazy person like they put a 611 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: person who was basically saying Brett Kavanaugh gang ranked me 612 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: slash space aliens landed put a chip in my brain 613 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: and I I need, you know, need immediate mental assistance. 614 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: She wrote that about sweat Nick, that he was a 615 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: very mean Oh sorry, Julie Swetnick, Thirdkavna accuser, tells NBC 616 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: that he was a very mean drunk, so she magnified 617 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: the gang rape allegation from sweat Nick. But Clay, this 618 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: is a thing. If you're going to be a prominent 619 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: person in this Democrat party, you actually have to be 620 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: a Russia collusion truther. A Stacey Abrams is the actual 621 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: governor of Georgia. Person a Brett Kavanaugh was a serial 622 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: gang rapist in high school that nobody ever heard of 623 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: until this moment. We wanted to not be on the 624 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Person. These are requirements act. That's well, that's 625 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: why the Soviet Mary Poppins and in the Department of Disinformation, 626 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: of course she believes all those things. It's required now 627 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: in the Democrat Party. Yeah. And the one that fires 628 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: me up the most is reminder. This is a quote 629 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: from the new White House Press secretary. Reminder, Brian Kemp 630 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: stole the governatorial election from Georgians and Stacy Abrahams. That 631 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: is a direct quote from our new Press secretary. Well, 632 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: Democrats have spent I've been told buck the last eighteen 633 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: months saying that saying that any election is stolen is 634 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: a direct assault upon democracy and impermissible. Well, Brian Kemp 635 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, he won by over fifty thousand votes 636 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: over Stacy Abrams. Word. I mean, look, Donald Trump lost 637 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: the presidential election based on the tally that is out there, 638 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: by around forty thousand votes. And for the people out 639 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: there who haven't done the math, you flip Wisconsin, you 640 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: flip Georgia, and you flip Arizona. Trump wins election. That's 641 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: about forty thousand votes total. In all those states. So 642 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: out of three hundred million or whatever, the one hundred 643 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: and fifty million, whatever the tally was of total votes 644 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: that were cast, over one hundred and fifty million in 645 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: this country a population of over three hundred million. That's 646 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: how much the twenty twenty elections swung on. Kemp won 647 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: the state of Georgia by more than fifty thousand votes. 648 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: So why is it that you can say that election 649 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: was stolen? And it's totally unacceptable to say that Trump's 650 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: election was stolen. I would love to hear Joe Biden 651 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: answer that question. You have as a spokesperson now a 652 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: woman who has said the twenty eighteen election was stolen. 653 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams never conceded. She's a patron, saying of the 654 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. Why is that? I'm just wondering what the 655 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: explanation will be the next time Stacy Abrams loses and 656 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: the next time Beto loses. You know, they're do you 657 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: think you reach a sour grapes maximum where it's like, oh, 658 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to be the governor, Oh they cheated. 659 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, you think at some point you reach a 660 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: point where it no longer actually will fly even with Democrats. 661 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: I wonder they're gonna get No, I'm just gonna get 662 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: beat either. Buck. I think Stacy Abrams is gonna get 663 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: crushed in Georgia. And I also think, because we were 664 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: talking earlier, that Beto's gonna get crushed in Texas. Can 665 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: you still be the future of the Democrat Party if 666 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: you've lost four straight statewide elections in your home state 667 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: of Georgia. Gave Democrats a chance and they have learned 668 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: to regret it real fast. Yeah. Play Travis and Buck 669 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of trus