1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World. In his new book 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: Created Equal The Painful Past, Confusing Present, and Hopeful Future 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: of Race in America, Doctor Ben Carson talks about the 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: current state of race relations in America. Instead of using 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: race as an excuse to remake America into something completely 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: and athetical to the Constitution, doctor Carson suggests ways to 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: bring great success to our nation and to all multi 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: ethnic societies by magnifying America's incredible strengths instead of its 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: historical weaknesses. Talking about race in America has always been 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: a difficult subject to have an open discussion about. So 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm really pleased to welcome my guests. My good friend, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: doctor Ben Carson is just an astonishing person. He's achieved 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: so much in his career. He is a best selling author, 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, a two 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: sixteen presidential candidate, the former director of PDA patric Neurosurgery 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: at Johns Hopkins, the recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: He has more than seventy honorary doctorate degrees, and I 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: have to say his work on twins who have been 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: worn joined together and the brilliance in the number of 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: hours of those operations. In my mind, he's a personal hero. Ben. 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Welcome and thank you for joining me. Thank you so much. 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I always appreciate being with you. Know, I was looking 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: at your book and I noticed this quote. When it 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: comes to racial issues and relationships in America, we can 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: choose to build in the progress we've made over the centuries, 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: or we can choose to create guilt and despair with 27 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the hope that that will further progress. Historical analysis of 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: human interactions would point to the more positive path as 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: the one leading to success. This choice is ours, and 30 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: in a way, of course, that typifies your whole life 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: of picking the positive path to move forward, not a 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: path of despair. But why did you write Created Equal Now? 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: How did the idea of the book come to you? Well, 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: there were so many situations in our society that everybody 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: seems to be circling back to race. In many cases, 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: they don't have anything to do with race, but they 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: want to use that as a coagule to beat people 38 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: into submission, to make people feel guilty. And this is 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: not to say that we haven't had some problems in 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: our past, in our history, but so has everybody because 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: we're all composed of human beings, and human beings are imperfect. 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: And what really bothered me and having focused my life 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: on the health of children, is teaching children that the 44 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: most important determinant of what happens to them in life 45 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: is the color of their skin. That really got to me, 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: and I said, how in the world can we be 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: doing that, because I remember when I was a child, 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of that going on, people saying, 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, because of the color of your skin, you 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: can't do thisand and maybe it might have actually been 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: true in those days, but things have changed so dramatically 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: since that time. And it was a big deal. When 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I was a kid. If a black person came on 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: TV in a non servile role, everybody came to watch. 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: It was a big deal. And now you know, you 56 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: have heads of corporations and foundations. We've elected a black 57 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: president twice, we have a black vice president, generals, admirals. 58 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, give me a break. To say that we 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: haven't had a dramatic change would just be burying one's 60 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: head in the sands. Doesn't mean that we've reached nirvana. 61 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: We have not, but we were making really good progress 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: until just recently when everything is back to race again. 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: We used to aim for a color bring society, and 64 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: now it's racial identity, identity politics that's the most important thing. 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: And what is it actually doing. It's dividing our society 66 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: on the basis of race, income, gender, age, religion, political affiliation, 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: you name it. We're dividing our society and it's the 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: only thing that can destroy our country. We're much too strong. 69 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: We brought down from the outside, but from the inside 70 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: we can and it's happening. And then you look at 71 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: some of the policies that are being generated right now. 72 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: How do you get the American people to accept defund 73 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: the police and letting out criminals and leaving our southern 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: border open. How do you do that? You make them 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: feel guilty, guilt trips so that they won't say anything, 76 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: so that they'll stand in a corner with their head 77 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: down and hope no one calls them a nasty name. 78 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: And then you can say, see, I told you the 79 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: system didn't work because nothing but ca Yes, it's being 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: created in the process. I remember back when we watched 81 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Gifted Hands together. A significant part of that movie is 82 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: the role that your wife Candy played starting at Yale, 83 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: and I've always been intrigued. Apparently, if I understand it, 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: back in seventy one, you met when you were students 85 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: at Yale, but you were both from Detroit. That's right. 86 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: Did you not know each other before you got there. 87 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: We didn't know each other in Detroit. We had to 88 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: go to New Haven and each other, and you know, 89 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously the relationship was facilitated by the fact that we 90 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: were from the same hometown. So we go home for 91 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: summer or for vacations or holidays, we'd be able to 92 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: see each other. I got the distinct impression that she 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: was a significant beyond the romantic interest. She was intellectually 94 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: a significant part of your Yale experience and encouraging you 95 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: and keeping you going, and has been throughout the time. 96 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: You know. I gotta tell you the way it worked. 97 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: As I was resisting romantic relationships, and then my senior year, 98 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I just said, Lord, it's time for me to stop 99 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: resisting relationships, so please make sure the next one is 100 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the right one. And it was. That's great. So the 101 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: book is with Candy, What role did she play and 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: how do you two interact on something like this book? 103 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: She does the research, She spends hours and days just 104 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: researching all the facts. The third chapter is about the 105 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: history of race in America, and it starts not at 106 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six, not at sixteen nineteen, but in the 107 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds, Saint Augustine in places like that, And it's 108 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: really quite interesting. When you go through the history, you'll 109 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: find fascinating things like there were black slave owners in America, 110 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: and in Commonwealth of Virginia we quote a law that 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: says black slave owners cannot own Christian slaves, which was 112 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: the euphemism for white slaves. It was pretty amazing some 113 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: of the things that went on during that time. But 114 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: it also shows you that people are people. They're good 115 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: white people and bad white people, good black people and 116 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: white people. You know, it just doesn't make any sense 117 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: for us to sit around and try to distinguish who 118 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: people are on the basis of superficial characteristics over which 119 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: they have no control, when we know that the thing 120 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: that makes you who you are is your brain, not 121 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: your skin. It's not your hair, it's not the shape 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: of your nose. And I talk in a book about 123 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: how animals react so quickly. They react to what they see, 124 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to what they hear because they have well developed midbrains. 125 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: We don't have well developed midbrains. We have well developed 126 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: frontal lobes, which allow us to extract information from the 127 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: past and the present, integrated into a plan, projected into 128 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the future, plan, strategize, analyze. And that's exactly what doctor 129 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: King was saying when he said he would DeLong for 130 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: the day when people would be judged in the content 131 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of their character and not the color of their skin. 132 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: You're reminding me the first time I heard you at 133 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: a prayer breakfast. You started by going through a whole 134 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: series of technical terms relating to the brain and saying 135 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: to the audience, none of you expected a black guy 136 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: to say that, and none of you knew would have 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: meant and that's why education matters. And I sat there 138 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: just my jaw was hanging open. It was a brilliant presentation. 139 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: And of course you became one of the great neurosurgeons 140 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,479 Speaker 1: of the last fifty years, and we're a genuine pioneer. 141 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: But I notice, as you try to explain all this 142 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: and created equal you talk about growing up in Detroit, 143 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Boston and Chattanooga. How did you pick those three towns 144 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and how were they different in terms of racial tension. Well, 145 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to point out the fact that you could 146 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: be in different parts of the country and it would 147 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: color your perception of what racial relationships were. You know, 148 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga when I was six years old, I pointed 149 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: out that it made an impression on me seeing the 150 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: signs that said white and colored when it came to 151 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: drinking fountains, and I wanted to know what that was 152 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: all about. And my relatives down there explained, make sure 153 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: you pay attention to those signs. You won't have to 154 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: worry about that when you get back to Detroit. And 155 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit, I lived in an environment that was all black, 156 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: black schools, black churches, black neighborhoods, black everything, So race 157 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: really wasn't much of an issue, you know. I would 158 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: see white policemen and some white teachers. They all seemed 159 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: like nice people, so it really was not a big problem. 160 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: We lived in Boston for a couple of years, and 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: the racial tensions there were much more pronounced, and that 162 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: was really where I first encountered racial hatred and all 163 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of those places. I point out how significantly things have 164 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: changed within ten years of the time that I saw 165 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: those white and colored drinking founds. They had disappeared. You 166 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't see signs like that anymore. Doesn't mean that people 167 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: didn't still have some issues. And I explain all of 168 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: that in the book Perceptions and things of that nature. 169 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: But I think the thing that we have to celebrate 170 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: in this country is that we make progress. America is 171 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: a different kind of place, and we recognize problems and 172 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: we have a choice of analyzing those problems and learning 173 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: from them, as opposed to trying to rewrite our history. 174 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I railed so much against those who 175 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: want to rename everything and take everything down, because there 176 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: are no perfect people. There was only one perfect person 177 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: that was Jesus, and they crucified him. So it is 178 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: really kind of a silly endeavor to go around looking 179 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: for perfection. To honor, what we should indeed do and 180 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: use those great frontal lobes is analyze the person, analyze 181 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: what they did, analyze the context in which it was done, 182 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: and see if there's something to emulate or something to 183 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: make sure that we avoid in the future. And that's 184 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: how you learn from your path. You know, you talked 185 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: about using funnel loabes, and I noticed that one of 186 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the things you comment on the book is that from 187 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: the fifth grade until the second half of the eighth 188 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: grade you were the rare black student in a white 189 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: educational environment. And during that time you went from the 190 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: worst student in the class of the best. How did 191 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: you jump from worst to best in a couple of years. 192 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: What was the key to that? Well, I've developed a 193 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: variacious appetite for reading. You know. When I was in 194 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: the fifth grade, my mother made a start reading books, 195 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: and I loved animals, so I read all the animal 196 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: books in the Detroit Public Library. And then I went 197 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: to plants, and then I went to rocks because we 198 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: lived near the railroad tracks, and what is there a 199 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: longer railroad tracks? Rocks? And I got to the point 200 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: where I could identify virtually any rock, tell you how 201 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: it was formed, where it came from. And the fifth 202 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: grade science teacher one day walked in and held up 203 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: with split, black, shiny rock, says, can anybody tell me 204 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: what this is? But I never raised my hand, I 205 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: never answered any questions, but no one knew, and I said, 206 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: this is my big chance, and I raised my hand 207 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: and identified it correctly. Everybody was shocked, and I explained 208 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: how it was formed, and their moths were hanging open, 209 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, you know what, everybody calls you 210 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: a dummy. You're not a dummy. You were the only 211 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: one in the answer why because you were reading the books. 212 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: From that point on, I became a bookworm. If you 213 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: saw me and I had five minutes, I was reading 214 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: a book. I began to learn everything that there was 215 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: under the sun, and my horizons grew from Detroit to 216 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: the world, just knowing stuff. Do you still read that voraciously? 217 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I still do read a lot. Absolutely. I have the 218 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: same habit. I read constantly. You have to tell the 219 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: story that I don't know if it's in the book 220 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: or not, But I remember you talking about it that 221 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: your mother had a very tough approach about the grades 222 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: you were going to get and what would happen if 223 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: you and your brother didn't get good grades. Well, I 224 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: mean she basically told us we couldn't go outside and 225 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: play anymore if we didn't learn certain things. Her friends 226 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: were always criticizing her. They were saying, you can't make 227 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: boys stay in the house and read books. They'll grew 228 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: up and they'll hate you. And I would overhear them 229 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: and I would say, Mother, you know they're right, it 230 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't matter. We still had to do it. And I 231 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: think she had the last laugh because once I became 232 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: a brain surgeon and one became a rocket scientist, so 233 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: maybe she knew what she was talking about. She was 234 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: the wisest person I ever knew. She had less than 235 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: a third grade education, but she was always observing stuff 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: and putting two plus two together. And you know, she 237 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: noticed in the homes that she claimed that these people 238 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: read a lot of books and they didn't watch a 239 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of TV. And she concluded that that was the secret, 240 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: and that's why she imposed it on us. And you 241 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: know she was right. Well, it's funny to me because 242 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I remember in your speech she said people would say, 243 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: how could your mother do that? And your answer was 244 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: she understood she was the parent. And I think that 245 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: explains a lot of the last forty years that we 246 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: forgot that when kids rebel, they need parents to put 247 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: them in the right direction. And if the parents are 248 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: trying to get the affection of the kids, the kid 249 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: has nobody to bounce off of and learn about the 250 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: right way to live. And the family structure is so 251 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: vitally important. You know, that's one of the things that 252 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: has been destroyed, particularly in the black community in this country, 253 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's why we see so many problems. 254 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: And you know, there are those who want to blame 255 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: the wealth gap on systemic racism. And there's a big 256 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: wealth gap between blacks and whites five to ten x, 257 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: but it doesn't exist with Nigerian blacks, or Ghanaian blacks 258 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: or a host of other blacks who come to this country. 259 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: And why is that. Well, if you examine one of 260 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: those families, you'll notice and a Nigerian family, for instance, 261 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: a bachelor's degree is the baseline, that's where you start, 262 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and there's a huge emphasis on family and family structure. 263 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,479 Speaker 1: So if you look at American traditional American Black families, 264 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: where those things are important, education, family structure, there's very 265 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: little wealth gap there too. So is it possible that 266 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: maybe we're looking at the wrong things. My granddaughter went 267 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: to school with a young lady from Nigeria whose family 268 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: was totally dedicated to she and her brother's getting education. 269 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: She actually ended up I think at UCLA and is 270 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: doing very well. But they had a culture. I agree 271 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: with you. I think we have a cultural problem that 272 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: we allow politicians in the news media to misidentify as 273 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: a racial problem. It's actually cultural. But I have to 274 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: ask you again, because you are a brain surgeon. You 275 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: know so much more about this than I do. You 276 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: know this great quote, you cannot overload the human brain. 277 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: If you learn one new fact every second, it would 278 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: take you more than three million years to begin to 279 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: challenge the capacity of your brain. Expand on that. It's 280 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: a great line, and as a bookworm, it makes me 281 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: feel better. But expand on it. Well, I said that 282 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: because there's some people who tell you, don't learn this, 283 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: and don't learn that, you'll overload your brain. The human 284 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: brain has billions and billions of neurons one hundreds of 285 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: billions of interconnections, can process more than two million bits 286 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: of information, and one second it remembers everything you've ever heard, 287 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: everything you've ever seen. You can take an eighty eight 288 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: year old man and you can drill a little hole 289 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: on the side of the skull and put in some 290 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: probes into the appropriate place in the brain and stimulate, 291 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: and he will be able to quote back to you 292 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: verbatim a book he read sixty years ago. It's all there. 293 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: It's just learning how to retrieve it. That's the important 294 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: thing that's amazing now, But to go to the opposite 295 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: direction from the eight year old man, you also talk 296 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: about how really important it is because young children are 297 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: so receptive and so open to environmental input, and that's 298 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: the point of which culture really begins to matter. It 299 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: seems to me right, no question about it. So given 300 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: the mess we're in and the mess our schools, how 301 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: do you deal with that? Well, one of the ways 302 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: that we're dealing with it with American Cornerstone Institute is 303 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: what I call the inoculation to it indoctrination, and that 304 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: is putting out material online free of charge, by the way, 305 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: at Little Patriots Learning dot com, that tells about our 306 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: history as a nation, that tells about our founding principles, 307 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: that tells about our documents. It doesn't leave out the 308 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: bad stuff that happened either, warts and all, but it 309 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: puts it in perspective. And that's the way we need 310 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: to be teaching our children. It's so vitally important. The 311 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Bible talks about it, and Proverbs twenty two six says 312 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: train up a child and away he should go, and 313 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: when he's only not depart from it. But our enemies 314 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: have known about that too. That's why Vladimir Lenin said, 315 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: give me your children to teach for four years and 316 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: the seed that I so will never be uprooted, recognizing 317 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: that that's very fertile ground and we have to be 318 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: very aggressive. I'm so happy as I travel around the 319 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: country to see that there's so many parents who were 320 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: standing on the sideline who are now getting involved with 321 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: the school board elections and with city council elections and 322 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: with the whole host of things. Because this country is 323 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be about the people. It was a great experiment. 324 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Nobody in Europe ever thought it would work. They said, 325 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: those people are crazy. You got to have a monarch, 326 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: You've got to have a ruling structure. And when we 327 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: finished our constitution in seventeen eighty seven and Benjamin Franklin 328 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: came out of the hall, a woman said to him, 329 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: what if we have here, sir, a republic or a monarchy? 330 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: And he said, a republic if you can keep it. 331 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Because no one ever really imagined that we would have 332 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: a success that we've had over the last two hundred 333 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: and fifty years. I think we perhaps have the greatest 334 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: threat to it right now. So we have so many 335 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: forces that are trying to divide us as a nation. 336 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: The question will be are we smart enough as Americans 337 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: to recognize that we are not each other's enemies and 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: that the real enemies are those who are trying to 339 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: divide us and change their nation. In a sense, it 340 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: seems to be critical race theory is at the heart 341 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: of this, and you describe it, as I'm quoting you, 342 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: that it's an athetical to the dream of doctor King, 343 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: and you go so far as to call a child abuse. 344 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Why are you so critical about critical race theory because 345 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: it is child abuse. I mean, you are teaching, first 346 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: of all, falsehoods to children, and you're making something that 347 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: a person cannot control, which is their color of their skin. 348 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: You're making that into a critical issue, and that is 349 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: really quite abusive because you take a certain group of 350 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: people and you infuse them with guilt. I have a 351 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: friend whose granddaughter came home crying and she said, Grandpa, 352 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: am I evil because I'm white? Where did she learn 353 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: that from? She learned that in school? And then you 354 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: have black kids saying I can't achieve at the highest 355 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: levels because the society is stacked against me. All of 356 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: this is complete falsehood. It's lying, and that's why I 357 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: come up against it so strongly. And if that's not enough, 358 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: you confuse them about all those things, tell them that 359 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: either they're evil or they're victims while they're trying to 360 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: develop their self image. If that's not bad enough, now 361 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: we tell them they may not be a girl or 362 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: a boy. Why would you do that to a young 363 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: person and put all of this on them when they're 364 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: supposed to be having fun and developing as a child 365 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: and becoming a good citizen. How can that ever lead 366 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: to a good place. It's impossible. It is incredibly abusive 367 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to those children. And I've seen some of the books 368 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: that they use, like they have for the pre kindergarten 369 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: and kindergartens. A little worm, and the worm can be 370 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: a male or female. It can change. And you know 371 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: this is really just to prepare their minds for all 372 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: this transgender stuff. They're not ready for that anymore than 373 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: they're ready for calculus. There comes in appropriate time to 374 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: begin to talk about such things. In your book, Created Equal, 375 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: you really take on the sixteen nineteen project in critical 376 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: race theory, and you sort of have a mini history 377 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: book in the middle of the book, and which you 378 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: outline things. Is this in a sense of fight over 379 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: the nature of history and the nature of facts. Absolutely, because, 380 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: as you know better than anyone, your history is what 381 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: gives you your identity, and your identity is the basis 382 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: of your belief system. So if you can destroy someone's 383 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: history or change the history, then you can change their 384 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: beliefs and you can make them very, very vulnerable. And 385 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that's why when Isis goes into a place, the telebon 386 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: goes into a place and they conquer it, what do 387 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: they do. They destroy the museums and the libraries, They 388 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: get rid of the history, and then they find it 389 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: much easier to substitute what they want people to know. 390 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: See exactly what's going on in our country, and we 391 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: have to be cognizant of it, and we have to 392 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: resist it, find it very very vigorously. Ben, tell all 393 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: you're doing with the American Cornerstone Institute and its efforts. 394 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Can you also describe the Little Patriots program and how 395 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: you hope to offset the activities of the left? Yes. Well, 396 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: our first book came out in November, our first children's book. 397 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: It's called Why America Matters, and it's beautifully illustrated and 398 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: We've recently hired a Disney animator, by the way, one 399 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: that's not woke, by the way, beautiful illustrations in the 400 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: books of the principles that were so important to the 401 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: founder of our nation. That is our faith, which teaches 402 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: us how to relate to our fellow man, love your neighbor, 403 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: not cancel your neighbor if they don't believe like either. 404 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Our liberty, which is critical and which makes America the 405 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: shining city on the hill to which so many people aspire. 406 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Our community, our ability to work together, even from different backgrounds, 407 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: to accomplish goals that are beneficial to the whole society. 408 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: And our respect for life from the womb to the tomb. 409 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: And those are illustrated through beautiful pictures and the book. 410 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: There's a guide in the book a little ego called 411 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: Liberty Eagle, and Liberty Eagle has two wings, a right 412 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: wing and a left wing. Can't fly with two right wings, 413 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: can't fly with two left wings, but together can soar, 414 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: And we make that clear to the children. We have 415 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: another book coming out very shortly, Why I Stand about 416 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: the American Flag and what's behind it and what it represents. 417 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: Because you know, there are too many people who've gone 418 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: off on the other end and they denigrate the flag 419 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: without really understanding what it means, what it symbolizes. And 420 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: we'll have a series of other books coming out, and 421 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: we have online programs at Little Patriots Learning dot Com 422 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: that goes through the history, tells you about the Mayflower, 423 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: tells you about the early settlements, tells you about slavery, 424 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: tells you about the Declaration of Independence, our constitution, why 425 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: all of those things were developed in a way that 426 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: children can understand. It puts it all into perspective and 427 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: whitewash anything, but it makes it very clear when they've 428 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: read all of this that we live in a terrific 429 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: country with enormous promise and that's the reason that so 430 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: many people want to come here, and that we have 431 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: an obligation to make sure that it stays that way. 432 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: Can everybody access this learning opportunity for their children or grandchildren. 433 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: Anybody can go to a Little Patriots Learning dot Com 434 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: right now today access the program, and like I said, 435 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: it's free of charge. It would normally be a fairly 436 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 1: expensive program because of all it's been put into it, 437 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: but we have wonderful donors and we've always like to 438 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: have more who make it possible for us to offer 439 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: this free of charge. Now you also have a program 440 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: as part of your commitment to about a future called 441 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: the Carsons scholars Fund. What does that do well? That 442 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: started a little over twenty five years ago. I would 443 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: speaking in a lot of schools and I would see 444 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: all these trophies, all state wrestling, all state basketball, all 445 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: state everything. But what about the academic superstars? What did 446 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: they get? A little National Honor Society pen on a 447 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: pad on the head. They're they're a little nerd. You know, 448 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Nobody really cared about them, and we said, we have 449 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: to change this, and so we started recognizing them with 450 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: money and with celebrations. And they can start as early 451 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: as the fourth grade. And I'll tell you you give 452 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: a fourth grade scholarship, they automatically become big man on campus. 453 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: And there's a big trophy that goes out in the 454 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: trophy case with their name on it. And it has 455 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: really changed things. Last year we gave out our ten 456 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: thousandth scholar and that program also has reading rooms. We 457 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: put in two hundred and fifty reading rooms. Have several 458 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: more schedules for this year around the country, particularly entitle 459 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: one schools where a lot of kids come from homes 460 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: with no books, They go to schools poorly funded library, 461 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: they don't become readers. And the studies have shown us 462 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: that if you can have a child reading by a 463 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: great level at grade three, it completely changes the trajectory 464 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: of their lives. Those are the kind of things that 465 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: we have to concentrate on if we really want to 466 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: make a difference. If people go to the American Cornerstone Institute, 467 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: can they both help with the scholars program and help 468 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: with the student program. That would be Carson scholars dot org. 469 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: But if you just go to the Bencarson dot com website, 470 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: it can farm you out to other ones that you're 471 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: interested in. You've remained a very very active guy. It's 472 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: sort of amazing giving your background. Like you well, sort of, 473 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I will confess up front, I never did anything comparable 474 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: to the groundbreaking neurosurgery on children that you did. I 475 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: could argue that what you did with the contract for 476 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: America and how you change that whole dynamic and we're 477 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: able to work with Clinton to do some amazing things 478 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: with the budget that's not been repeated. Well, okay, we 479 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: can both admire each other and continue to move forward. 480 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: I think we're also proof that you can be a 481 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: citizen your whole life, which is I think part of 482 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: what you've proven and done brilliantly. I'm delighted with what 483 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: you're doing. We're honored to be able to work with 484 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: you on educating children, and I think that your entire 485 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: career is a remarkable tribute to America and that you 486 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: and Candy have made a difference. It's really very, very 487 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: very impressive. And I think we're going to save our 488 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: country too. I really believe that, and people worry about 489 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: that every place I go, but I say, this is America. 490 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: We are Americans. We're not sheep. We're not going to 491 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: lay down. We're not going to let somebody take all 492 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: of our rights away from us. There's going to be 493 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: some turmoil, there's no question about that. But we're going 494 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: to win. I think that's right, and I think part 495 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: of the reason we're going to win is because people 496 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: like you value citizenship, and you know, you could go 497 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: off and spend the rest of your life just relaxing 498 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: and living off of an extraordinary career, but you're totally 499 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: engaged as a citizen. If we had enough citizens to 500 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: be engaged, we will drown the people who want to 501 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: destroy America. I want to thank you for joining us. 502 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: I think your contributions both writing this book your leadership 503 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: at the national level a great contribution America. Klift and 504 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: I are delighted to call you and Candy our friends. 505 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: And I want to let our listeners know that they 506 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: can get a link to buy your new book Created Equal, 507 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: the Painful past, confusing Present, and hopeful future of Race 508 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: in America on our show page at newtsworld dot com. 509 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: And we're also going to put on the show page 510 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: how they can link to the course for children, which 511 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: I think they will find really exciting opportunity to offset 512 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: all the efforts of the left. So thank you for 513 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: your citizenship and your leadership. Thanks for having me, and 514 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: thanks for being a patriot. Thank you to my guest, 515 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: doctor Ben Carr person, you can get a link to 516 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: buy his book Created Equal on our showpage at newtsworld 517 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: dot com. News World is produced by Gingwishtree sixty and iHeartMedia. 518 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Garnsey Sloan, our producer is Rebecca Howe, 519 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the 520 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the 521 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: team at Gingrich three sixty. 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