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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Call Light a Health.

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Speaker 1: All right back in the studio here on a Monday,

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Speaker 1: fresh off our sojourn to Indianapolis for the NFL Combine,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is

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Speaker 1: your show of choice. Thanks for joining us, and we'll

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Speaker 1: be putting a capper on the combine. But the business

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Speaker 1: of football, Steve, is what is taking center stage here

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Speaker 1: early in the week as teams, after having conversations with

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Speaker 1: veterans with fat contracts on their rosters and in need

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Speaker 1: of cap relief, are making some decisions. There are also

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Speaker 1: are finding homes and I only expect more of this

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Speaker 1: to continue, Steve, because you got a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: that got to create cap space to do business, let

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Speaker 1: of other parties looking for jobs musical chairs with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: As we've seen each of the last two or three

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Speaker 1: off seasons, Derek Carr going to New Orleans, going to NOLA. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Derek Car's leading towards New York Jets. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a jet. Wasn't that just posturing by his agents to

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Speaker 1: get more money out of the Saints? Perhaps Nevertheless, sit

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Speaker 1: work because they're about ready to do a deal in

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Speaker 1: the Saints, who at one point where like a six

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Speaker 1: gazillion dollars over the cap. Yeah, now they're gonna sign

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Speaker 1: Derek Carter a new deal. And and he was asking,

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was when he's looking for and he's

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Speaker 1: talking with the Jets, and then of course the thing

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Speaker 1: comes out where he's close to signing with the Jets

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he can play. I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: guy out there. Nobody else is available. Rodgers is They

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Speaker 1: say he's yeah, no, I think the Packers want to

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Speaker 1: move on from him. But Rogers is the one that

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Speaker 1: holds the cards, and he's not going anywhere he wants

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Speaker 1: to play this year, and it may be the Green

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Speaker 1: the way he's handled them. If Aaron Rodgers is on

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Speaker 1: the market, he's the best guy out there, but he's

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Speaker 1: not Derek carr Is and he's going to sign a

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Speaker 1: huge deal with New Orleans. Yeah, going to reunite with

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Speaker 1: his former head coach from his rookie year in Oakland

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen and Dennis Allen, And by all indications,

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Speaker 1: that was the main attraction for Derek Carr. Because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to submit to you this, Steve, Derek Carr is

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Speaker 1: going to sign for good money there with a team

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Speaker 1: that is leading the league almost annually in amount of

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Speaker 1: money over the cap. While I totally understand that the

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Speaker 1: NFC South is devoid of elite quarterback play, and so

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Speaker 1: as Derek Carr going to the NFC South today, you

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Speaker 1: are the best quarterback in that division. Absolutely. How much

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Speaker 1: help are the Saints realistically getting you though, with their

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Speaker 1: current cap situation? How much help are they going to

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Speaker 1: get you to make you better? And I mean, did

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Speaker 1: you go to New Orleans to win? Or did you

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Speaker 1: go to play for a coach that you trust? I

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Speaker 1: stands today, yes, it's the move. I mean, Carolina has

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Speaker 1: got Sam Darnold well, no, he's a free agent and

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Speaker 1: have him. They don't even have Baker anymore. He's never

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Speaker 1: that deal. Who So the Carolina has nobody, Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Vegas is the one who kicked him to the curb, right,

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Speaker 1: you make the team, that's the only thing you're guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: If you give money, it's in your pocket, that's guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: And then whatever your contract says, winning is not guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Playing well's not guaranteed. Having a good team around you

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Speaker 1: where we got into it last year, this last offseason

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the personality and all that, but

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Speaker 1: good luck to you. But when he signed with the

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Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback. Yeah, you don't looking for him

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Speaker 1: much can he help Josh play better? Case Keenham did.

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Speaker 1: who's who wants to help Josh play? Well, that's what

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Speaker 1: he has to be here for, maybe for busy, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Dalton's got a vast wealth of experience. You trust him.

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Speaker 1: not committing long term to Pollard, but he is clearly

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Speaker 1: that's great, but you gotta do it with a contract

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Speaker 1: that makes fiscal sense and is in line with his

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Speaker 1: production value. And right now his production value is twenty

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Speaker 1: two total touchdowns because he ran for seven through for fifteen.

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Speaker 1: That is just that's not even middle of the pack

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Speaker 1: territory for production. No, there's really and I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: last week that the paychecks for quarterbacks, because of the

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Speaker 1: prominence of the position and the importance of it and

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Speaker 1: how good the best ones are and how what the

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Speaker 1: drop off is, there's no middle ground. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't get a twenty million dollar guy. You either get

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Speaker 1: a thirty five million dollar guy or like we said,

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Speaker 1: a five million dollar guy. There's no or at least

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Speaker 1: a ten to twelve or fifteen something in there. You

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Speaker 1: never get any of those. Um, there's no middle market.

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Speaker 1: There's no middle market because you either got your guy

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Speaker 1: that you're paying a ton of cash to, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else is a throwaway or you don't have anybody

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, you're looking who to play, right, you

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Speaker 1: have zero? Yeah? So, and I think the giants know what.

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Speaker 1: I think they believe what they have is better than

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Speaker 1: bottom of the market. But they're having a real hard

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Speaker 1: time finding the proper value. That guy's asking forty four

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Speaker 1: million a year, he's asking forty plus. So that's just

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Speaker 1: and I get it. You always do. That's why negotiations work.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you're gonna get it, no, But I'm

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Speaker 1: really interested to see how this contract. It's because this

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Speaker 1: is a tricky one, Joe. Yes, it is because I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what't at forty minute, you know. Yeah, app No,

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Speaker 1: I'm even like him and a Han about thirty two

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Speaker 1: on the franchise. Yeah, I would give him the franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: I'm even having trouble with that though, Like I would

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Speaker 1: you know what, I would even do the now you're

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Speaker 1: paying him equivalent to the average of the top ten

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. He's not that either. I would.

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Speaker 1: I would non exclusive franchise tag him and then move

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Speaker 1: him somebody that's super desperate in the NFC South. Now

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Speaker 1: think about it. You can laugh, but Daniel Jones might

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Speaker 1: be able to win the NFC South even with Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr in that division today. Okay, Tampa Bay, they might

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Speaker 1: think about it. Carolina might think about it. Right, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: you never. I don't know, but that's where you're at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no middle ground for these guys, either a financial

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Speaker 1: home run or you're making backup money. That is around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Presented by Kalida Health. We'll get into our

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Speaker 1: recap of the NFL Combine here going forward, and Topic

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Speaker 1: of the Day deals with that as well. A lot

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Speaker 1: was said in Indianapolis last week regarding the Bills, you know,

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Speaker 1: surrounding prospective free agents, draft class, positional needs for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: among other things. So, after you heard everything that you

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Speaker 1: heard at the combine last week, what has changed your

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Speaker 1: mind about who the Bills should draft? Following what we

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Speaker 1: heard and witnessed at the NFL Combine. Eight O three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty the number to get on board one

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Speaker 1: eight eight fifty two five fifty is the toll free

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Speaker 1: number to call if you're outside the seven one six

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Speaker 1: calling area. What has changed your mind about who the

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Speaker 1: Bill should draft following the NFL Combine. Maybe you heard

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Speaker 1: something that Brandon Bean said and you think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do b instead of A. Maybe there was something that

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott said that makes you think, oh, they're going

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Speaker 1: to probably avoid a player like this, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: look for a player like this. Or maybe there was

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Speaker 1: somebody that had an unbelievable week at the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: that you say, I don't see how the Bills are

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Speaker 1: going to avoid this guy at the bottom around one.

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Speaker 1: My gut feeling is there's a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there that have been watching this and hearing us talk

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Speaker 1: about it, and the fact that all the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, not every single one of them, but

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Speaker 1: most of the wide receivers in this class are small

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Speaker 1: and light. They just don't weigh enough and they're short.

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Speaker 1: There are no Julio Jones in there. Jamar Chase is

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Speaker 1: in right. So then you start looking around saying some

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Speaker 1: tight ends out there, and there's some tight ends, and

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Speaker 1: we were looking at I mean this, Darnell Washington is

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable place. But there are guys who are considered

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Speaker 1: better than him, at least at the college level. More polished,

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Speaker 1: more polished or whatever. Yeahs, there always is he If

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Speaker 1: Darnell Washington is there at twenty seven, I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I don't think he will be.

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Speaker 1: He did have a heck of a combine which we

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Speaker 1: will touch on, and there'll be a couple of tight

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Speaker 1: ends taken before him, I would think, yeah, Yes. Dalton

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Speaker 1: Kincaid is a very popular top tight end prospect out

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Speaker 1: of Utah. He didn't do anything at the combine because

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Speaker 1: he's coming back from a fracture in his back. But

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Speaker 1: that guy can really run, pure natural catcher of the football,

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Speaker 1: and he can block a little bit, you know, at

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Speaker 1: least give the thread of the run game when he's

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Speaker 1: on the field by lining up and blocking people. So

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Speaker 1: he's kind of been the consensus top tight end prospect,

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Speaker 1: but there are others that can do a lot of

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Speaker 1: good for a lot of NFL offenses. Does that change

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Speaker 1: the conversation where you say, well, I'm not crazy about

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Speaker 1: receiver class, let me pivot and do that. So that

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Speaker 1: is the question on the table for you. What has

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Speaker 1: changed in your mind about who the Bill should draft?

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Speaker 1: Following the NFL combine and everything we saw and heard

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Speaker 1: out there in Indie last week. Eighth three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: The number to get on board Steve and I back

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Speaker 1: with more in a second here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colloid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve tasking

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Speaker 1: with you on a Monday where we are discussing the

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Speaker 1: NFL combine in review. What has changed in your mind

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Speaker 1: about who the Bill should draft following the NFL combine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was something you heard, either you know, on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network's coverage or maybe one of the guests on

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Speaker 1: our show last week in Indy that kind of shifted

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Speaker 1: your thought process as to what the Bills might do

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Speaker 1: and who the Bills should draft following the NFL combine.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty The number to get

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Speaker 1: on board one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones. And leading us off this

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Speaker 1: segment is Mark in Jersey City. What do you got

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Speaker 1: for his? Mark? How you're doing, Chris? How you doing? Steve?

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Speaker 1: It just fortified what I thought right, I mean unsolicited

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Speaker 1: being talks about it. McDermott kind of with the mismatch

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Speaker 1: type of playmaker and the things that they've tried to do.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Cloth to or lesser degree. They definitely tried signing Grounk.

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Speaker 1: They definitely tried that, but he chose to go play

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Speaker 1: with Brady. I ed Glee Smith. He was an integral part.

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Speaker 1: It's that kid that's just pushing the sled like it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a baby doll. It's Darnel Washington. It's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent him. That's the guy they draft. They don't

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Speaker 1: draft the Polish guy. They draft the trade sky. They

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Speaker 1: draft a measurables guy, the upside guy. That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: It just he reeks of everything that they would want.

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Speaker 1: He fixes the red zone problem that Q sweeps that

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Speaker 1: Josh likes to finish the juice off with. That becomes

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Speaker 1: a lot easier. You put defenses in such your mind

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Speaker 1: with that guy, it allows you to do so many

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Speaker 1: other things. With Dawston Knox, It's insane. It's something that

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Speaker 1: they've tried. They've tried twelve personnel. How many times did

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Speaker 1: we see Quentin Morris on the field last year, and like, damn,

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Speaker 1: they really like this guy. Oj Howard didn't work out

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Speaker 1: Bobby Hart tackle eligible. It just reeks of that's what

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Speaker 1: they want right now. It's a it's a valid point

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Speaker 1: mark and thanks for the call, um. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to put Bobby Hard on the field

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Speaker 1: as a tackle eligible. You would just put Darnell Washington

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Speaker 1: on the field as a six six, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty four pound tight end who is basically like having

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Speaker 1: an extra tackle. Yeah. And oh, by the way, you

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Speaker 1: can go out and run a four six four forty

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Speaker 1: and catch a football that you throw eleven feet in

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Speaker 1: the air. He's he's a target. Look at the football

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Speaker 1: at his hands at that it looks like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: even look like a real football when he's holding the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm totally with him. I don't think Darnell Washington is

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Speaker 1: going to be available at twenty seven. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: his upside may upside board. And now the thing that

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Speaker 1: may make him available at twenty seven is the fact

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people think there are better tight

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Speaker 1: ends in this draft, Dalton Kincaid being one of them, right,

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Speaker 1: he being one of them. Now you're gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take four. He may be the fourth guy, fourth tight

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Speaker 1: end taken. But if he's if the first three are

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Speaker 1: taken in the top fifteen, he ain't making it to

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. If the first three are taken in the

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Speaker 1: first twenty five, maybe he's got a chance to get

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Speaker 1: down to you. He's not gonna. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: he'll be available. I get it. I am totally one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent on board with it. I understand it. You're right,

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Speaker 1: the things you said made a lot of sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: including the history of what this team has done to

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Speaker 1: try to get a second Ten's right. They have tried

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Speaker 1: it and it has not worked to their satisfaction and

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Speaker 1: or to anybody's satisfaction. But you know they did it

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Speaker 1: with Bobby Hard a ton last year. You're right, Quinn

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Speaker 1: Morris was on the field a lot. Who's the offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman that caught the playoff touchdown, Tommy Doyle. They've done

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Speaker 1: it with a ton of guys. Now maybe they would

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Speaker 1: continue to do that. But Darnell Washington goes up at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list of guys who go in

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Speaker 1: in twelve personnel, not to the middle of the list.

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Speaker 1: He goes to the top of the list, and he

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Speaker 1: can do any anything he makes. He's a problem for

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Speaker 1: defense is to diagnose what the heck the offense is

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Speaker 1: doing because he can block, he can catch, he catches,

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Speaker 1: he can run. He catches very well. Now he's a

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Speaker 1: he's not an explosive athlete, but when he gets going,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the turnover is you can imagine, for a

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Speaker 1: guy as tall as he is, every stride eats up

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Speaker 1: more grounds, so he just moves faster. Although he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have real explosion. He's a straight line kind of a

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Speaker 1: get up to speed kind of guy. He's a problem,

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Speaker 1: particularly if you know, I mean, they can't man up

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Speaker 1: on him. There's nobody on the field big enough to

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Speaker 1: man up on the guy. So yes, I am very

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Speaker 1: intrigued by him and his skill set. So I asked

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean when we had him on the air last week,

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Speaker 1: because the more we were talking to people at the Combine,

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Speaker 1: the more we were kind of getting the sense that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, the receiver class is just okay this year,

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Speaker 1: it's not as good as the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to find an alpha male you know

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Speaker 1: that is going to be an instant impact performer in

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Speaker 1: your passing game. So I said, well, with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: hearing all that we're hearing about how good this tight

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Speaker 1: end class is. Five in the top fifty, ten in

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Speaker 1: the top one fifty, I mean, that's ridiculous. You rarely

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Speaker 1: hear that. Daniel Jeremiah called it the best tight end

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Speaker 1: class in a decade. So I asked, Brandon, is it

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Speaker 1: possible that some gms in need of helping their passing

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Speaker 1: game may say, I don't really like the value here

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Speaker 1: at receiver, let me pivot to tight end. This is

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Speaker 1: his answer quote. You're looking for mismatches out there, you

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Speaker 1: really are, and so you're trying to determine is the

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Speaker 1: tight end just a receiver only? And they know it,

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Speaker 1: so they're probably going to play them like a receiver.

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Speaker 1: But if you can find those guys that are not

638
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: a throwaway in the run game and can put their

639
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt and at least crack even crack neutral,

640
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: then maybe you get the defense into base personnel and

641
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: you can throw it off of that or good enough

642
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: that if you want, if they want to play you

643
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: in nickel and you've got two tight ends in the game,

644
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: you're in twelve personnel that you can run the ball

645
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: where it's all right, you want to play us in nickel,

646
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: we're going to try and run. So I do think

647
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: there are some tight ends out there, whether it's free

648
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: agency or the draft, that can give you that flexibility.

649
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: It's not like you have to go fill it with

650
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: this receiver. We're looking for positions on offense beyond the

651
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: offensive line where we can add a mismatch tight player.

652
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: That's where we went and found James Cook last year

653
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: and why we added Nieheim Hines. Just guys that can

654
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: do different things that can be a mismatch from your

655
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: standard receiver, like a Stefan digs Ery, Gabe Davis. We

656
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: started that conversation at at the combine about Ghisicki the

657
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: tight end for one demanding he can't do anything except

658
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver who is too slow to be

659
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: considered a wide receiver, and he's put him a tight

660
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: end um. That's how we got to this one dimensional

661
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: thing and started talking about maybe getting a tight end

662
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: that can do thing. If you've got a tight end

663
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: who can help in the running game and you can

664
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: run behind him or throw or pass with him, on

665
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: the field, especially if you can throw it out of

666
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: two tight end offenses and be a matchup problem. Because

667
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: I've got two tight ends out there, particularly the size

668
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: of Knox who's big, and this Darnell Washington who's bigger.

669
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: They got to kind of feel like they gotta bear

670
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: up and throw some bodies out, the big bodies out

671
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: there to run over to hold up in the run game.

672
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean a nickel corner against those two guys thirty seven.

673
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: If you get a guy like tarn Johnson out there

674
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: trying to man up on one of those guys and

675
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: you just you just start turning around and handing it

676
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: off all of a sudden, and then you then you're

677
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: moving the football down the field and you're not putting

678
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: it at risk at all, and if you can, I've

679
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: said it. It's still why everybody wants to run the football,

680
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: because when you can run the football whenever, however, whether

681
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: they know it's coming or not, your opponent, your players,

682
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: their coaching staff, their their players, their fans, they feel defenseless. Yeah,

683
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: they feel completely vulnerable. They are they check it in,

684
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: they are done. That is an enormous advantage for a

685
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: team to be in and you throw it as a

686
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: complete changeup. Meanever you want to, you don't have to

687
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: throw it if you don't want to. So if you

688
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: can get a defense to decide that they got to

689
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: go big bodied against your two tight ends, then you

690
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: got tight ends that you can flex out and start

691
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: split out the hash marks and get those defenders, those

692
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: big body defenders, run defenders spread out in space where

693
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: they got to cover. You need to be able to

694
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: win that. So I know it's it's football one oh

695
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: one we're talking about here, but it's this is where

696
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: we're at here with this draft stuff. What who? What

697
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: are these guys going to allow you to do offensively

698
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: that you weren't weren't able to do or as weren't

699
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: able to do as well before I got like Darnell Washington,

700
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean almost changes the con almost, yes, almost single handedly,

701
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: he changes the equation. Yeah, let's go back to the

702
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: phones into Marty in East Aurora. What do you got

703
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: for us, Marty? Yeah, I guys say a great job

704
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: at the combine. Try to watch you guys every week

705
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: for every day. Hey, um once the last guy you

706
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: ever heard, you know, kind of making a big time

707
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: from old dominion. I was watching the tight ends and

708
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I watched this dude, Zach Kuntz six eight two fifty

709
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: four or five six and the forty first in a

710
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: vertical jump first and abroad jump first in the three

711
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: cone and second in the shuttle run. If you could

712
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: if the combine play did it for him, well fine,

713
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: but I just wonder what your thoughts are. Yeah, interesting,

714
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: guy killed it in the workout, for sure, moves uncommonly

715
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: well for a player that size. And this is a

716
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: guy I haven't seen his tape yet, but with thirty

717
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: four inch arms, I mean if he can block that,

718
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: those are like offensive tackle arm lengths. So you run

719
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: a four to five five and you have a one

720
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: five seven ten yard split, that's pretty rare for a

721
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: guy that big forty inch vertical Steve six seven time

722
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: even ort you the math, how high in the air

723
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: that is a forty inch vertical at six seven and

724
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: he's six seven and three ates or something like that.

725
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing unbelievable. He tests really well, but

726
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: the knock on him is his tape doesn't match up

727
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: with his athleticism. So that's why a lot of people

728
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: consider him a Day three guy. There is some upside there.

729
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: He's a track guy. He's a high he did a

730
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: high jump and hurdles in high school. So he's a

731
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: huge target, there's no debating that. But he's light on starts.

732
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: He only has fifteen in his career in college. And

733
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: he's a little raw as a receiver, you know, getting

734
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: off a press coverage even at his length and stuff

735
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: like that, and so getting separation for him is tough. Now,

736
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: it may not matter if you're six seven, he got

737
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: thirty four inch arms, you can jump up probably ten

738
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: feet and catch the football. But there's there's some work

739
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: to be done there. So I would consider him an

740
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: athletic an athletic project, maybe even more so than Darnelle Washington,

741
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: who played at a much higher level of football. His

742
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: ability to play in the NFL is going to be

743
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: dictated by what's between his ears, his commitment, his ability

744
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: to see it and to see what's going on around him,

745
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: and the roster and how he's gonna make the team

746
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: and whether he can play special teams, whether he'll do anything,

747
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: whether he'll be able to learn how to release, learn

748
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: how to block, learn you know, all, he's got a

749
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: lot of He's not a long way to go to

750
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: prove that he's got the mental capacity to be smart

751
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: enough to change his game or enhance his game and

752
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: aspects that'll get him on an NFL roster. That's where

753
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: he's at right now. He's he's raw, but he may

754
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: as well be a soccer goalie coming over trying to

755
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: play football. That's kind of what we're at. He's unquestionably

756
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: got the athletic traits to play in the league, right

757
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: He's got athletic traits to play in the league. But

758
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: whether he has the experience, or the desire, or the

759
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: commitment or quite frank, the intelligence to learn so fast

760
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: enough to get there is the question. And that's where

761
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: you kind of decide. I ain't gonna I'm not gonna

762
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: put on number one on that roll of the dice,

763
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: but I might put a number four or three on

764
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: that roll of the dice as to where that kid

765
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: can do it. Break time for us here, Ron and

766
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Lackawanna will lead us off next segment. So stay where

767
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: you are, Ron and others holding at eight oh three

768
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: oh five fifty. But we do have an open line

769
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: for you. What has changed in your mind about who

770
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: the Bill should draft? Following the NFL Combine and all

771
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: that happened in Indie last week. You let us know.

772
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: We're back with more of your phone calls here on

773
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

774
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live. Christ round.

775
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, asking you if anything has been

776
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: changed in your mind about who the Bills should draft

777
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: following all that we saw and heard at the NFL Combine.

778
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: Back to the phones, we go into Ron and Lackawanna.

779
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Ron Blue guys, great

780
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: job last week. Oh thanks, appreciate that. My biggest thing.

781
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: I was oppressed with the officeive lignement at uh combine

782
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, why can't we go with us in

783
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: the first two rounds? Officive line? There's a running back guy?

784
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Look in the third round that's Spears. Maybe the lane

785
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: yea in a board Droune from Tulane, the running back

786
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: from Tulane. Yes, I like that kid a whole lot.

787
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: It's a good player, I think, and I'm thinking maybe

788
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: as third round go go with him and then you

789
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: take it in the board round. See because so deep

790
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: play that spot? Hey up, me listen to you guys.

791
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, thanks ron h. He wants to

792
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: go O line O line, similar to the Bills draft

793
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one when they went D line D

794
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: line in round one and two, and then he's got

795
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: running back in round three, which the Bills have done twice.

796
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: In Brandon Bean's ten, you're Devin Singletary and Zach Moss

797
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: both third round picks at the running back because the

798
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: Bills went D line D line in twenty twenty one

799
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: and then O line O line in second in the

800
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: fourth round Tommy Duels. So yeah, yeah, that's it's fun

801
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: to think about. I agree with you, Brownie and I

802
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: were going round and round on top interior line. We're

803
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: thinking interior lineman. But if one of the big time

804
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: left tackles drops down to where you're at at twenty seven,

805
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: you take that left tackle and you plug him in.

806
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: Let him play left tackle for the Bills. Move d

807
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: on down or moving to the other side and play

808
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: right time. Just put d on wherever you want, because

809
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: you're already paying him money, and you gotta it's the

810
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: same money for both of them in on the field.

811
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: Give them their best position and go yeah, I mean

812
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson from Ohio State Broderick Jones from Georgia. Consider

813
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: two of the better tackles in the draft. Both of

814
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: them probably come off the board in Round one. How

815
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: early or late is what remains to be seen. Man,

816
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: I'd love it if one of those guys got down

817
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, but I think that's a little far fetched.

818
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: I would be more than happy to be wrong on

819
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: that front, Steve. The money is out for one, Derek Carr,

820
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Four years, one hundred fifty million dollars,

821
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: one hundred of which is guaranteed seventy fully guaranteed, which

822
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: is sixty. It's signing another ten million in year three,

823
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: vesting after year one, and he also has a no

824
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: trade clause in his contract, so even if it doesn't

825
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: work out, he will control his destiny much like he

826
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: did in Las Vegas. Thirty seven point five per year,

827
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: which you know who that helps Daniel Jones The New

828
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: York Giants. Yeah yeah, I think it helps the Giants

829
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: more than Jones, don't you? Oh yeah, well, I don't

830
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: think the Jones wants forty something million the Giant. If

831
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: the Giants need help from Derek Carr, they ain't doing

832
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: it right. Well, yeah, but I'm saying, I'm his contract

833
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: provides another talking point for one side or the other.

834
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: To me, this one provides a talking point the Giants like, look, dude,

835
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: forty million, you're out of your gourd. I mean, your

836
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: numbers weren't even as good as Derek Carr's last year.

837
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: How can you ask for more than that? Guy? Right,

838
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: you're right. You look at Derek Carr last year, his passing,

839
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: he was productive, twenty four tds, fourteen year receptions. He

840
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: had more tds throwing it than Daniel Jones did running

841
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: and throwing. Yes, this is my point. So yeah, I'm

842
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: totally with you, totally with the Giants. It does help

843
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: the Giants. And like I said, we're only talking about

844
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: that because it sounds like the Giants and Daniel Jones

845
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: are getting close and if they're over. If it starts

846
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: with a four, I'm if there's that money starts with

847
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: at forty that's too much. It's way too much. Yeah,

848
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: we have to take a break here because in our

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Speaker 1: number two, we're going to be joined by Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus draft analyst Trevor Sikima. He's going to be joined

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Speaker 1: the s when we return to go through all of

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Speaker 1: what was in Indie at the NFL Combine. That's next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Collida Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Our number two on a Monday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with you one Bills Live. Please to be joined now

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Speaker 1: by pro football focused draft analyst Trevor Sikoma, who's got

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Speaker 1: a newly fresh hot off the press is right up

859
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Speaker 1: as he is basically recapping the combine with the best

860
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Speaker 1: performers in terms of grades. Trevor, how are you doing?

861
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, guys, appreciate you having me on the show. Yes,

862
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Speaker 1: so let's begin here. Do you have like a let's

863
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: let's do like an Olympic podium here. If we could

864
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: have best performers, you know who's getting the gold, silver,

865
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Speaker 1: and bronze medal here from the combine? Just I guess

866
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: we'll go just on workout performance only. Okay, workout performance only,

867
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean gold medal has to go to Anthony Richardson. Right,

868
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: And it's funny because we watched how Anthony Richardson worked

869
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: out and people were marveling about it, and now we're

870
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: talking about him potentially going into top five, and people

871
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: are like, whoa, WHOA hold on. We already knew Anthony

872
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: Richardson was going to be athletic, but there's a difference

873
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: between knowing he's going to be athletic and then him

874
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: showing up and being historically athletic. Right, I mean, the

875
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: best forty they're the best vertical jump that we've ever

876
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: seen from a quarterback at the combine, the best broad

877
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: jump we've ever seen from a quarterback at the combine,

878
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: and the fourth fastest forty yard dash time for a

879
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: quarterback that we've ever seen in the combine. So I

880
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: feel like Anthony Richardson just has to off of history alone,

881
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: get that top grade. There. I'll say that Deonte Banks,

882
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: the corner from Maryland, I'll give him the silver medal

883
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: in this tested in the ninety fifth or above percentile

884
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: in the forty, the vertical, and the broad. He looked incredible. Also,

885
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: sized in around six foot one, one hundred and ninety

886
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: seven pounds, he is making a case to be one

887
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: of the top cornerbacks selected in what is a really

888
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: really good cornerback class. And then I guess for another one,

889
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: I'll go to the offensive side of the football and

890
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: I'll say Quentin Johnston. I loved how Quintin Johnston was

891
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: able to show up as big as he was six

892
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: foot three, two hundred and eight pounds, have an over

893
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: forty inch vertical jump over eleven foot broad jump, and

894
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: he just looks different than the rest of these wide

895
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: receivers in this class. There's a lot of short, shifty

896
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: slot receivers, and now that they're bad, it's just that

897
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of those smaller wide receivers in this class.

898
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: And Quinn Johnson shows up and he goes, Okay, not

899
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: only am I big, not only do I have the

900
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: potential to be an X on the line of scrimmage

901
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of a wide receiver one player, but also I'm

902
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: explosive and I got that athleticism with it. So off

903
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: the top of my head, those three guys have to

904
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: be three of the biggest winners that we have athletically

905
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Were real sensitive to big, strong, athletic quarterbacks

906
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: because when the Bills took Josh Allen, it was like

907
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: it was polarizing, to say the least. Most people thought

908
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: he was going to be a colossal bust. And you

909
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: know the the quote unquote true believers knew that he

910
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: was gonna get better and he's going to be that

911
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: guy does. And we always ask the question of these guys,

912
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen's success helping athletic quarterbacks and drafts like

913
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: this knowing that people are giving them the benefit of

914
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: the doubt where they didn't give it to Josh Allen. Yeah,

915
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. Josh Allen is where everybody

916
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: goes to when we talk about these big, strong, athletic

917
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who just might not be finished products. Right. And

918
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: for as incredible as Josh has been over the last

919
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: two years for Buffalo, when he came into the league,

920
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: he was not that finished product kind of a player.

921
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: It took him time to get there. Now for him,

922
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: he was lucky enough to where it was those reps,

923
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: those full time reps that we're able to spur that

924
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: change for him. For other quarterbacks sometimes when they're not

925
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: ready and you throw him out there in the NFL,

926
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: they crash and burn. And I think that Josh Allen,

927
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: to you guys, point is the perfect example of this

928
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: guy's got all the tools and look what can happen

929
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: in a modern day sense of when it all comes together.

930
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Josh Allen talking. Sometimes I

931
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's a little bit insulting to Josh and

932
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: how good he is that I feel like we use

933
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Speaker 1: the comp as much as we do for a lot

934
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: of these athletic, high trade quarterbacks. But there's no doubt

935
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: about it. That's where everybody reaches when they first see

936
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: a guy with super high athletic traits and what it

937
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: could be in the NFL about the position drills. I

938
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: know Richardson maybe didn't stand out as well. There a

939
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: lot of people felt CJ. Stroud kind of proved he's

940
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: the best natural thrower in the draft and another guy

941
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: that at least some Bills fans have their eye on

942
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: as another Ohio state product. And he fits into that

943
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: class of small, shifty receivers that you referenced Jackson Smith

944
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and jig but that do you think he kind of

945
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: cemented himself as the best pure route runner in the class.

946
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: He's one of them, no doubt about it. And look,

947
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: it was a little bit disappointing with Jackson Smith and

948
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: Jigbo because if there's any concern in his scouting report

949
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: at all. It's the long speed and he did not

950
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: run the forty Wonder if he's going to run it

951
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: at Ohio States Pro Day, but that's really the only

952
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: question mark we have. Now. He got out there and

953
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: he tested in the agility drills, which are the three

954
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: cone in the twenty yard shuttle. Both of those he

955
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: tested above the ninety six percentile for wide receivers. So

956
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: this is an incredibly quick, fast, controlled wide receiver. We've

957
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: already seen how good he can be in his routes

958
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: going back to that sixteen hundred yard season he had

959
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: two years ago at Ohio State, and so for what

960
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: he was able to show in the agility drills and then,

961
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, on the field as well, he definitely

962
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: solidified that kind of narrative around him. Now, like I said,

963
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: he didn't really boost his stock in a way that

964
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: we didn't think was going to be the case with

965
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash, but there's no doubt about it

966
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: that he is. If he's not the best route runner

967
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: in this class, he's top three. And if you're in

968
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: the top three in a really nice route running class,

969
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: we know that you're going to have a successful career

970
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: even off of that trait. So Smith and jig but

971
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: he's making a case to be that wide receiver one

972
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: who knows where that's going to come off the board

973
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: in this class. But he certainly did a lot to

974
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: strengthen a lot of the good arguments that people have

975
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: for him being an am good wide receiver. You mentioned

976
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: it when you mentioned Quentin Johnston the wide receiver ut

977
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: TCU of being a guy who's big and he's fast.

978
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: He showed some things that people didn't really know that

979
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna do. But the rest of this wide

980
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: receiver class, they all look like Smith and Jigba from

981
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They're all five ten, even from five nine

982
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: to five eleven, and none of them wait two bills

983
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: and they all they're all that that kind of guy.

984
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: They're small, undersized receivers who have separation, quick inside, short,

985
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: quick speed, run after catchability, maybe some explosion. How do

986
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: these guys separate themselves? Is it only on film? Because

987
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: when you get them lined up at the combine, all

988
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: of them are built the same. Yeah. No, I think

989
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: that and that is where you have to well. I

990
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: think that the combine helped you out a little bit

991
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: because some of these guys showed that they were a

992
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: little bit more athletic than others. And if that's the case,

993
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: if you're built the same, you're probably going to lean

994
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more towards athleticism. That's why a lot

995
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: of people like say Flowers from Boston College right in

996
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: a group that is Zay Flowers, Tank Dell, Jackson Smith

997
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: and Jigba, Josh Downs, you know, like these again, these

998
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: smaller wide receivers who could be all picked within the

999
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: time fifty top sixty. A lot of people like Zay

1000
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: because he's got more explosiveness to him, He's got a

1001
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: little bit more juice. Now there's other guys like I

1002
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: would say, Josh Downs and Jackson Smith and Jigba, very

1003
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: very productive players, but they're more smooth than they are explosive.

1004
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily a bad thing, especially for the

1005
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: artists that those guys are coming from the slot position.

1006
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: But when you look at the player like Zay Flowers,

1007
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: I feel like some teams might argue, Okay, well, there's

1008
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more stop and start explosiveness, suddenness violence

1009
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: to when he is able to accelerate and get into

1010
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: his routes. Then there are for these other receivers, and

1011
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe that's what might make the difference, because for the

1012
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: rest of these guys, like you mentioned, they're very very

1013
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: similar builds, they have very similar styles. It just comes

1014
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: down to productivity, I think. And if that's the case,

1015
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: of course Jackson Smith and Jig is going to be

1016
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: at the very top, like Josh Downs from UNC is

1017
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: going to be right behind him, and so on and

1018
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: so forth. So it really just comes down to how

1019
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: you see these guys on tape and how you think

1020
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: they could fit in your scheme. And I know Dalton

1021
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: and Kade from Utah, you know, widely considered one of

1022
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: the type top tight end prospects, didn't do anything because

1023
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: he's recovering from that back, I think, in a fracture

1024
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: in his back. At the end of the season, he

1025
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: still considered top of the class. How much did Darnell

1026
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Washington's work out, which kind of put his elite physical

1027
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: traits on display, maybe close the gap. They're coming from

1028
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: two different worlds in the tight end community. One is

1029
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: this polished pass receiver who's going to make an immediate

1030
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: impact in your passing game, and the other guy is

1031
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: this gargantuan freak zoit of a human that can really

1032
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: put defenses in a bind in terms of, hey, when

1033
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: you go twelve personnel with Darnell Washington, you could be

1034
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: running the ball, you could be throwing it up to

1035
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: him eleven feet in the air. I mean, are you

1036
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: putting a nickel on the field or you're putting a

1037
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: third lineback around the field. You don't know what that guy.

1038
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: I like how you describe Darnel Washington a freak a zoit,

1039
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: because that's basically the only words that I can come

1040
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: up with that also describe what he was able to

1041
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: do six foot seven, two hundred and seventy pounds, running

1042
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: the way that he did, jumping the way that he did,

1043
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: looking as good as he did in the drill sports.

1044
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he had the highlight catch of the week

1045
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: as well, that one handed catch of the sideline, which

1046
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: was an incredible showcase of coordination there for him. So look,

1047
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he showed that he could

1048
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: just do it all and in a tight end class

1049
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: that is getting a lot of hype. You've got guys

1050
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: like Dalton Kincaide, You've got Luke Musgrave, you got Tucker Kraft,

1051
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta right there, there's so many of these tight

1052
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: ends to like. But even amongst those guys, Darnell Washington

1053
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: is different. He's built different, as the kids say, and

1054
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: his tape is different. You're right. He shows up as

1055
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: more of a blocker than these other tight ends do.

1056
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: And as we are seeing more tight ends become this

1057
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: big receiver type of mold, Darnell Washington can give you

1058
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. It's why I think that

1059
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: he shouldn't get out of the first round of this

1060
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: upcoming draft because he gives you that unique ability. They

1061
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: call him a unicorn for everything that he's able to

1062
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: do as a blocker and a receiver. And you mentioned it.

1063
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: When you get into those two tight end sets, whether

1064
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: he's the first tight end on a lion scrimmage or

1065
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: the second tight end on a lion scrimmage, when you

1066
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: go into twelve personnel, those multi tight end sets, you

1067
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: really put the defense in a bind, especially if you

1068
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: have another good tight end to pair with him. If

1069
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: you've got a two headed tight end attack with Darnel

1070
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: Washington in there is your one or two that's gonna

1071
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: put a big time stress around the defense. Because there's

1072
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: not a lot of sub packages even that can handle him.

1073
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Not every team has that kind of safety corner or

1074
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: safety linebacker hybrid that they can put on the field

1075
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: to guard him. So Darnel Washington, no question about it,

1076
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: really solidified himself as just a true difference maker in

1077
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: this class and in this tight end room in Buffalo.

1078
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: We know when we're drafting twenty seventh in the first round,

1079
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: you know there's you know, we all have our dream

1080
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: picks what they're gonna be. But most of the Bill

1081
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: and we last week focused on the interior offensive line

1082
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: as guys being available for them, and also because of

1083
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: the depth of that position or those positions, there's probably

1084
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good player. One of your draft mocks,

1085
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: along with a lot of other people, have the Bills

1086
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: taken a guard out of Florida, Osiris Torrens that type

1087
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: of player. Now, if it was Osiris Torrens, fine's all

1088
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: fine and dandy. Is there a like where would there

1089
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: be a higher level, a better guy than Osiris Torrens.

1090
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: If he falls, you'd take him over Osiris? I feel

1091
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: like you know, sir, you look at the three offensive

1092
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: tackles they're up at the top. Who of them, Peter

1093
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: Scronsky and Paris Johnson Junior are players who could play

1094
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: on the interior. I suppose Broderick Jones from Georgia could

1095
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: as well. But a dream scenario along the offensive line,

1096
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: I guess for the Bills outside of Osiris Torrence would

1097
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: be Peter Scronsky because his tape out of Northwestern is

1098
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: just so dang good. He has played left tackle for

1099
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: them over the last couple of years and played it

1100
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: very very well. But he measures into the combine and

1101
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: he's only got thirty two and one four cint jar. Now,

1102
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: arm length is not the be all end all to

1103
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: explain whether or not you can play tackle in the NFL,

1104
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: but a lot of teams have their thresholds for offensive

1105
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: tackles at at least thirty three inches, and so he

1106
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: is well under that, and so you think that measurable wise,

1107
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: he looks more like a guard. The tape tells you

1108
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: he's talented enough to play offensive tackle. He would be

1109
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: that dream pick for the Bills because you could play

1110
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: him on the interior right away. He would be able

1111
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: to start for you, I think day one, and then

1112
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: if you ever got in a pinch, whether it was

1113
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: next year due to day injuries or further down the

1114
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: line with contracts, you can play him at a tackle spot,

1115
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: so he would definitely be somebody that would be classified

1116
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: as a dream scenario for them. But if not, I

1117
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: really do like Osires Torrns. He's a perior interior offensive lineman,

1118
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: was one of the best in college football this past year.

1119
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: About as powerful as they come. And I'll say this too.

1120
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: He looks to be reworking his body, making sure that

1121
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: he's getting in the gym not having any bad weight

1122
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: on him. And we've seen that throughout the draft process

1123
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: as he waited into the Senior Bowl and then waited

1124
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: in again at the combine. He's down from his listed

1125
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: weight of three forty seven all the way down to

1126
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: three thirty. I still think he's got that power to him.

1127
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: He just looks better and he looks like he move

1128
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: a little bit better with that too. Flipping it over

1129
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: to the defensive side here, Trevor linebacker could be a

1130
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: pretty important need for the Bills if Tremain and Emmons

1131
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: gets priced out of their market because of their cap situation,

1132
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: which could very well happen. So knowing that Jack Campbell

1133
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: from Iowa. He had a killer workout, better than I

1134
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: even anticipated. My question to you is does do the

1135
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: workout numbers match up with what you see on tape

1136
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: from him? They do, and almost it's almost as if

1137
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: the tape you love and you didn't even know he

1138
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: had this extra juice in him. So it's almost like

1139
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: the combine told you there might be something left to

1140
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: squeeze out of Jack Campbell, the best might be yet

1141
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: to come for him. Because I agree with you. I

1142
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna tell I thought he was gonna

1143
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: run a little bit slower, not look as explosive as

1144
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: he did this past week in Indianapolis. But I still

1145
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: love the tape. I mean I had him linebacker one,

1146
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: linebacker two. He was fighting for that top linebacker spot

1147
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: no matter what. Now that I know this dude's got

1148
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: even more in the tank athletically, that'll pretty much solidify

1149
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: him as LB one for me. Because it was his

1150
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: tape that I liked the most. I was just a

1151
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: little bit concerned with where he was going to stack

1152
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: up once we got to pro level athleticism. So really

1153
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: great week from Jack Campbell. You've got some other names

1154
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: on the screen there Trents Simpson, Henry too, Diane Henley.

1155
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: Those are some guys that you also would want to consider.

1156
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: And then I'll throw out the name this a little

1157
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: bit further down on that list, who I really like

1158
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: Dorian Williams out of two lane. You know, there's not

1159
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: as many pure off ball linebackers in this class. It's

1160
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hybrid guys. It's these safety linebacker converts,

1161
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: these guys who are linebackers slash edge rushers. There's not

1162
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot of true off ball linebackers. Dorian Williams is

1163
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: He's another guy who showed really nice athleticism this past

1164
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: this past week in Indianapolis. I like his tape. He's

1165
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: a great pursuit guy. And I really do feel like

1166
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: if you can't get one of the top guys in

1167
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: the early rounds, likely the second round, if you maybe

1168
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: wait a little bit the mid round's, third, fourth round,

1169
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: you could pick up a guy like Dorian Wins and

1170
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: it might be a big hit for you. One of

1171
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: the things that always happens at this time of year,

1172
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: we get mock drafts that come out, and it's interesting too,

1173
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: because you get a guy like a running back like

1174
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson, who is an outstanding talent, but the position

1175
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: has been so devalued. People are like going, I don't

1176
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: know if you did take him in the first round

1177
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: or not. The Bills have been mocked to Beijean Robinson

1178
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: or he's been mocked to the Bills a number of times.

1179
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: Is he the first running back off the board? And

1180
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: when do you think he goes? I would be so

1181
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: shocked if he was not the first running back off

1182
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: the board. He has got some of the easiest tape

1183
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. I mean, you watch two games of

1184
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: this dude and you go, yep, pro NFL player, that's

1185
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: about That's about all you need. I mean, the footwork,

1186
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: the change of direction, the vision, the contact balance. This

1187
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: guy had over a thousand yards after contact this year. Guys,

1188
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. You know, in pf our grading scale

1189
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: goes up to ninety nine point nine, Beijean Robinson had

1190
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: a ninety six overall grade on the season. That is

1191
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: just unheard of when you can play that well that consistently.

1192
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: So he's just truly one of the best. And then

1193
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: what I also love about him is how much he

1194
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: can give you in the passive game. Two soft hands.

1195
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: They've lined him up a slot receiver at times, he's

1196
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 1: great out of the backfield as a weapon there as well.

1197
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: That's where the Christian McCaffrey comps come from. We know

1198
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: that Christian McCaffrey went number eight overall back in his draft.

1199
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure Beijean's going to go that high,

1200
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: but he is talented enough to be picked in that

1201
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: top fifteen top twenty range. Certainly, if he makes it

1202
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: down to Buffalo's pick, he should be on the board

1203
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: with you with what they need and where they can

1204
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,479
Speaker 1: really improved their roster to get them over the hump.

1205
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: I'd tell you there's probably three blue chip talents, at

1206
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: least on field talents in this class, Jalen Carter, Will Anderson,

1207
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: and then be Jean Robinson. Those are the three that

1208
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: we have to choose from. So if a guy like

1209
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 1: that were to make it all the way down into

1210
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: the late twenties, you should absolutely keep an eye on him.

1211
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: Last one for me, Trevor. Safety is a position where

1212
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to have to replenish their numbers

1213
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: here in the off season. Not only is Jordan poor

1214
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: or free agent, they have two backups that are as well,

1215
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: and we don't know the future of Damar Hamlin's playing career,

1216
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to replenish numbers there and they'll

1217
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: probably address that a little bit later in the draft.

1218
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: I know it's not a great safety class, but the

1219
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: two kids from Illinois kind of piqued my interest. I know,

1220
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: Sidney Brown had a great Senior Bowl week and then

1221
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: only added to that with his workout at the combine

1222
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: four four seven forty and a half inch vertical broad

1223
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: jumped almost eleven feet and he's got ten inch hands.

1224
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: But I kind of like jar Tavis Martin two though

1225
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: played some nickel and safety. I like that position flex

1226
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: and then eleven foot one broad jump forty four inch

1227
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: vertical one four seven ten yards split at a four

1228
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: four to six. So do you like one better than

1229
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: the other? Yeah, I mean just insane athlete. Martin showed up.

1230
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 1: It absolutely put on a show, which you love to see.

1231
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: I still like Sydney Brown more, but that's the Illinois

1232
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: secondary over the last couple of years. You know, you

1233
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: throw Kirby joseph In there for as well. From last year.

1234
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Devon Witherspoon, who I think is

1235
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: the top cornerback in this class. You've got these two

1236
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: safeties as well. So Illinois's building something in their secondary

1237
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years has been fun to see.

1238
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: But I still like Sydney Brown a little bit better

1239
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: just because of his approach and everything that he brings

1240
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: to the game of football from a physical standpoint. I

1241
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: got to watch him in person field level at the

1242
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and man, he was so much fun. He

1243
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 1: is flying around and he talked about how he loves

1244
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: playing at the linebacker level because it allows him to

1245
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: communicate even better. He can communicate with the defensive line,

1246
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: communicate with the other linebackers on the back end, and

1247
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: they also give him the freedom to play at that

1248
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: second level because he's got such great instincts for where

1249
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: the ball is going. We saw it with takeaways, we

1250
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: saw it with big hits, we saw it with timely

1251
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: tackles everything. So he is just such a smart football player.

1252
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: And if the health checks out, Sidney Brown is somebody

1253
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: who I would definitely have my eye on. But another

1254
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: guy who I really like, I'll just give him a

1255
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: shout out at Jamie Robinson from Florida State. We were

1256
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: at his podium session in Indianapolis, and he actually broke

1257
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: down everything that goes into that word versatility. Somebody asked

1258
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: him about being versatile, and instead of just saying like, yeah,

1259
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: I like to be versatil, he actually broke down what

1260
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: that looked like this past year. He talked about how

1261
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: he was in the safety room on Wednesdays, he talked

1262
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: about how he was in the linebacker room on Thursdays.

1263
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: He talked about he was with the corners on Fridays.

1264
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: He was learning the entire game plan for each position

1265
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: because no matter where he was going to be deployed,

1266
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: he wanted to have that confidence once he got into

1267
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: Saturday's games, and so loved the preparation, loved the outlook.

1268
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: He's somebody who doesn't just say the word versatility and

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Speaker 1: does it with as athleticism. He does it with his

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Speaker 1: mind and his preparation as well. So are two guys

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Speaker 1: I think, Sidney Brown and Jamie Robinson that I would

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Speaker 1: definitely champion on Day two in this draft from the

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Speaker 1: safety class, Trevor last one from me. It happens everyone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can answer this question, but

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Speaker 1: it's fun to talk about the Bears. Have made it

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: known that they're not married to that top overall pick.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a couple of quarterbacks. You've got some

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Speaker 1: teams that are quarterback needy. What do you expect to

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Speaker 1: happen at the top of this draft. We've seen all

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Speaker 1: kinds of scenarios where Carolina gets up there, everybody else,

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Speaker 1: you know, people trying to trade up to get that

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Speaker 1: the Jets. What are your thoughts about what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with those first five picks and those a couple of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that these teams cover so badly. No way the

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Speaker 1: Bears stay at number one. There's just no way they're

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Speaker 1: going to be making the pick and number one. When

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done. This quarterback class is too

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Speaker 1: good and if they're not gonna take one, they cannot

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Speaker 1: afford to leave a deal off the table. You've got

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Speaker 1: the Texans right behind him. You've got the Colts. You've

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Speaker 1: got heck, even the Seahawks at five. You've got the

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Speaker 1: Raiders at seven, the Falcons at eight, the Panthers at nine,

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Speaker 1: the Tight at eleven. Right, they are all of those teams,

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Speaker 1: and that's just through the top eleven that would want

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Speaker 1: to jump up for one of the best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: this class. I think this combine got a lot of

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Speaker 1: height for all four of those players in Stroud, Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, and Will Levis as well, So there's no

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Speaker 1: way they're making the pick at one. They're moving down

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Speaker 1: I think in my opinion. The only question now is

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Speaker 1: is Chicago going to trade down twice? Right? Are they? Say?

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: There could be a scenario where Chicago trades down to

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: number two with the Houston Texans, gets a couple of

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Speaker 1: extra picks with them so they can go get their

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01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: QB one, the top guy in this class, and then

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01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: you'll probably still have the rest of those group of

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: teams calling up for number two overall that might be

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: able to move back even further. The big question is

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01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: just how far would they go down. Would they be

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Speaker 1: okay moving past number seven or number eight or number nine,

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 1: or do they want to stay in the top five.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very exciting to

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Speaker 1: see how it all plays out real quick. Is Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young too small to play the position in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I really don't now. Is he

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Speaker 1: on the smaller side, Yeah, absolute, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: play at the two hundredweight level that he went measured

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Speaker 1: in out at the combine. But this guy was the

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Speaker 1: best player in college football over the last two years.

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Speaker 1: He hit over the middle, he took massive hits, he

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Speaker 1: was pressured all the time, and yet every single instance

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Speaker 1: where you thought they finally had bryce Young, they didn't.

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Speaker 1: And that was with a talented Alabama team on offense

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: his first year and a much less talented offense from

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Speaker 1: Alabama this past year. Whatever it was, whatever the scenario,

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Speaker 1: whatever the opponent, he was able to deliver in incredible

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: fashion every single time. Because of that, I've got to

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: trust the tape. I've got to trust the playmaker that

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: he is. I do not think that he is too

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01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: small to play in the NFL, and if it was

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Speaker 1: up to me, I wouldn't be passing on him at

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Speaker 1: number one overall. All right, Trevor, thanks very much for

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: all the insight. We appreciate it. We'll catch up with

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Speaker 1: you down the line as the draft draws close. Ranks, Trevor,

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it, guys anytime. All right, that's Trevor sick him

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: up from Pro Football Focus. He's their draft analyst. Certainly

1337
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of good takes on what went down

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01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 1: an indie last week. And yeah, I'm telling you, man,

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: I think one of those safeties from Illinois could be

1340
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, late round three when the Bills

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Speaker 1: are on the board and if they've already addressed, you know,

1342
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Speaker 1: some of the things we hope they can address, like

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Speaker 1: offensive line or a mismatch in the passing game. I

1344
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: heard Sydney Brown is instinctive. That's all I needed to hear,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, and if you remember Steve,

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01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: last week, we had Charles Davison, he worked the Senior

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Bowl for NFL Network and that was a safety he

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: said he likes a lot. So the Bills have drafted No.

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Speaker 1: Number One dB out of Illinois before. It was Henry

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Speaker 1: Jones back in the day, and he had a tremendous Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty good career. Tremendous career. All right, Yeah, there is

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01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: NFL news. Jeremy Fowler from ESPN is reporting that in

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: a surprise twist, the Chiefs are not going to franchise

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: tag starting left tackle or Andoe Brown. He is going

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: to become a free agent on March thirteenth. That's when

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Speaker 1: the negotiating window opens. Free agency officially opens March fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: The player has apparently been notified by the Chiefs that

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01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: they will not be tagging him. So Orlando Brown, the

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: starting left tackle for the Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs,

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: is going to hit the free agent market, and I

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: suspect he is not going to be there very long.

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: Good for him. I think the New York Jets are

1363
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: going to be all over that guy that. Yeah, that'd

1364
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: be a good place. It's gonna be all over. That's

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: a good place to spend some of their money because

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Speaker 1: they need a lot of help up front. I would

1367
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: expect the Jets to be calling that phone midnight March thirteenth. Also,

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Speaker 1: this is the day too, Calvin Ridley is now back

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: into the NFL reinstated. Yeah, stated by the commissioner, after

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: being out for a year because he bet on somebody

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Speaker 1: else on a different game in the NFL and wasn't

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that obviously, So he was out for

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: last year. Now he's back in after twelve months. This

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Speaker 1: is the fun time. I'm of the offseason NFL calendar

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: stuff is happening. I know people are moving. I love it.

1376
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it. All right, we gotta

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but when we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to hear from one Von Miller. Our Bills reporter

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Speaker 1: Maddy Glab caught up with Von at the NFL Combine

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: where Vaughan was learning the ins and outs about front

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01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: office personnel work. As we know, he wants to become

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 1: a GM in the NFL one day, much like former

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01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: player John Lynch, who's the GM of the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. We will play that interview for you

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: turn now to an interview by our own Bills reporter

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: Maddy Glab, who caught up with Von Miller at the

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Speaker 1: NFL scouting Combine in Indie late last week. Vaughan out

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01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: there to learn the ins and outs of what being

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: a general manager of a football team is. Brandon being

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: offered some assistance. So here now is our own Mattie

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: Glab with Von Miller. Maddie Glab here sitting down with

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Speaker 1: Von Miller that we found at the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine, Vaughn, amazing to see you here. You know,

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: so many people here. Everybody in the NFL flocks this

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01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: place for an entire week to see who are the

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: best guys that are going to come out of college

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: football and into the NFL. Why did you want to

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: be a part of this week this year? You know,

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: my dream, my aspiration is to be in the front office,

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: to be a scout, be a gym. But I don't

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: have any duration on how to get that done. Fortunately

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: for me, Brandon Brain is such a great human being

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: and he's taking time out of his life to help

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,520
Speaker 1: me with my and I've been blessed with multiple opportunities

1408
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: like that. And I'm just here shadowing our guys. We

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: got a great scout into We got up and coming gems,

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: up and coming scouts. The Buffalo Bills do a really

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: good job of scouting management. And I'm just here to

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Speaker 1: shout out those guys. Vn. You went through this process

1413
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: when you were coming out of college football, but now

1414
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: to see it from a different lens, what is it like,

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: And you're a business guy, what is it like to

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: see this week be put together from the business perspective

1417
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: of how big football the NFL is now today. So

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Speaker 1: it's very interesting. This is my going on my thirteenth

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: year in the league. Over you know, a third of

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: my life has been in the National Football League. So

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it from a player, I've been in all

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Speaker 1: types of different situations, and now I get to see

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Speaker 1: it from the other side. I saw it, I saw it.

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: I've seen the game from a media standpoint as well,

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: and that was just another way for me to really

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Speaker 1: observe the league that has done so much for me.

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: And getting to meet with so many people, shake so

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: many hands, probably meet some new people from different teams

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: that you haven't been able to interact with before. What

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Speaker 1: is it What is the networking of this week been

1431
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: like for you? It's cool, you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I've been in the league thirteen years. You know, I've

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01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: been on the Denver Broncos, the LA Rams, and not

1434
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Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills, and I've worked with some of the

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Speaker 1: different coaches and scouts that that interchange on all these

1436
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: different teams, and they're on other teams around the league.

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01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: And just to see these guys and being around these

1438
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: guys and talk to him about you know, my dreams

1439
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: and aspirations and to get advice and pointers and and

1440
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: most importantly guidance on what to do next has has

1441
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: been extremely um humbling, and it's it's been a privilege

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been so blessing for me for sure.

1443
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: So where has that burning desire to be in NFL

1444
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: GM one day? Where did that come from? I think

1445
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: I think it just happened over Tom. And I'm a

1446
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: huge believer in you know, watch what you think, because

1447
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: whatever you think, that's what you'll say. Whatever you say

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01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: that it become your actions. And I've been saying and

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: I want to be a gym, not just just saying it.

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, whenever I saw John Elway and John Lynch

1451
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: and less Need and Brandon Bean, I just you know,

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: I want to be a gym. I want to be

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: a gym one day. And then it falls on the

1454
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: right ears with Brandon Bean and he calls me to

1455
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: his office. I was like, man, start talking about it.

1456
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: And then he was actually the one that that water

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: my plant. And you know that's where the dream came from.

1458
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: And you know, you sit down and you see things

1459
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: and you come up with this want and this desire

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01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: to do it. I know it's an extremely hard job.

1461
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: I know it's a that's an extremely competitive market as well,

1462
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: but this is something that I want to do. It's

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: a passion that I have. That's a way for me

1464
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: to stay attached to the league beyond you know, my

1465
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: playing careers, and you know I love this players. I

1466
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: don't want to be out of the the NFL ever, so

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a way for me to

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01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: stay attaching. It's a really cool industry to be a

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: part of. I mean, you get you are doing what

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: you love and you can do that beyond playing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, which I think is so cool. Putting your

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Speaker 1: GM hat on what type of traits is von Miller drafting?

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think player evaluation is just

1474
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: a small key set it. You know, you can have

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01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: coaching evaluation as well, athletic trainers, the infrastructure of the team.

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, you got scouts, You've got pro scouts, you

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Speaker 1: got college scouts, You've got all these people. You just

1478
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: have to be you have to have some type of

1479
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: business leadership, have some type of social leadership as well.

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01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to hit on the quarterback that

1481
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: everybody knows it's going to be good. It's easy to

1482
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: hit on that receiver that everybody knows it's going to

1483
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: be good. I think the core players, that third middle

1484
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: linebacker or that fourth corner, those are the guys that

1485
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: are really gonna make your team. And we've done a

1486
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: great job here with the Buffalo Bills with Dane Jackson

1487
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: and Damar Hamlin. These guys are late These guys are

1488
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: late round picks where they play like first round and

1489
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: second round picks. So you have to hit with those

1490
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: guys that have success everybody when everybody knows about the

1491
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: best guys in the draft, But it takes it takes

1492
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: talent and takes an eye to really find those guys

1493
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: that are create the foundation on your team. I mean

1494
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: that's totally true. Look at what the Bills did with

1495
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: Christian Benford last year. That's that's somebody that they were

1496
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: able to scout and find that other team didn't maybe

1497
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: think they he had the upside that he actually did

1498
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: and played quite a bit for the Bills this past season.

1499
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: When it comes to what the Bills are looking for,

1500
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: what you are looking for on this team next year,

1501
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: free agency is just a couple of weeks away and

1502
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 1: then the NFL Draft. What's your pitch to players about

1503
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: coming to play for a team that's that's pretty close

1504
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: to something special. We got Josh Allen. We got Josh Allen. Camera,

1505
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at we got Josh Allen. Um, We've got

1506
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: a great coaching staff. I think more importantly, we got

1507
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: a great culture, which Josh is a huge part of that. UM.

1508
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: A couple of plays, a couple of plays away from

1509
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: from you know, I win in a few more games.

1510
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: We only lost four games the whole season. You know,

1511
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: we're right on the brink. Um. I think some of

1512
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: the Knox that we have is the weather and this

1513
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: and that. But I'm here to tell you, like, once

1514
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: you get here and once you experience it, I think

1515
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: coach that Levi said it the best. You know, a

1516
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: lot of people don't want to come to Buffalo, but

1517
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: once you get here, you don't want to leave. We

1518
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: have a great home for the advantage off is gonna

1519
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: put on points. Just missing one or two players um

1520
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: to really be able to get that done. But we're

1521
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: not the only team in this position, as every teams

1522
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: in this position every single year, Really do you bring

1523
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: back all thirty three all twenty two players. Yeah, you know. Um,

1524
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: so we're not gonna be able to bring it back everybody,

1525
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: but we still have a great team. We still have

1526
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: a great product, just missing a few more players. And

1527
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: it could be any position. And we're playing in Super

1528
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: Bowl yea, and that could be you whoever, whatever is

1529
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: listening to this. It's the offseason, Vaughan. What have you

1530
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: been up to? What have you been doing? I hope

1531
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: you've taken some time off to chill. I know you're

1532
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: working here and shadowing people this week, But what have

1533
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: you been up to? Beside that? Most importantly, Um, I

1534
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: just had my second son. Here'd be a month old

1535
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: on two guys, Mark, so guys that good. I will

1536
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: go out to try a second he knows everybody here

1537
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: I got, uh, you know, I got two young sons. Um.

1538
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: You know, I think most importantly, you know, rehabbing my knee,

1539
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: making sure I'm ready to go whenever the season starts. Um.

1540
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: I also know I want to, you know, continue to

1541
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: get experienced and figure out what it takes to be

1542
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, in the front office in any form of fashion. So, um,

1543
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: I got I got those three things. And that's That's

1544
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: pretty much it. If I was younger to be more

1545
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: on my play, but now you know, all I want

1546
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: to do is play golf, video games, kicking with my

1547
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: kids and really just evolved. Well, congratulations on the second son.

1548
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: You talked about the rehab a little bit. Just finished

1549
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: the workout. More people, he knows more people. We can't

1550
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: even get through that with you, Sake. I love it.

1551
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: You just came through a workout. How's how's the rehab going?

1552
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: How are you feeling in the process of getting to

1553
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: Rehab's great? You know I can all I can really

1554
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: control is my mind set. You know, the body's gonna

1555
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: do what it's gonna do. Um and I really don't

1556
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: have any complaints. This is my thirteenth year in the league.

1557
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: You've been through it. We've won two Super Bowls. I

1558
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: got two healthy sons. Josh Allen's on my team. You

1559
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: know it'd be it would be a crime to, you know,

1560
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: see it here and even think about things that complain

1561
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: about I have a great life, got a lot of

1562
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: great people around me, man, And I'm super blur. Have

1563
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you heard it here? First? From Von Miller at the

1564
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. So cool that you're here

1565
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: and so cool to see it. Thanks for setting down

1566
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: with us, No, thank you guys for having me. All right.

1567
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: That's von Miller with Maddie glab at the NFL combine

1568
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: late last week. Caught up with him over the weekend

1569
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: and got an update. Things are going good on his

1570
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: knee rehab. The general consensus is it has hoped he

1571
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: will be available for most, if not all, of the

1572
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three regular season. Makes a lot of sense.

1573
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: These guys have You get him pigeonholed into, you know,

1574
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: as being a professional athlete, and they they make a

1575
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: ton of money, and you think, well, after they're done

1576
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: playing football, they just you know, kick it back on

1577
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: a beach and with my tie and let life roll on.

1578
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: There's more to it than that, you know, certainly, you

1579
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 1: know I'm one example of it. The guys on my team,

1580
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: there's a ton of them. They gotta have a plan

1581
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: because you're gonna retire it like what thirty five and

1582
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of life left. And a guy like Vaughan,

1583
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 1: who loves the game, loves what's going he's got a plan.

1584
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: He said, well, you know what I want to do

1585
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: what his buddy John Elway did, John Lynch or John Lynch,

1586
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: Ozzie Knewsome. There's a long list of guys, Martin Mayhew.

1587
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: There's a ton of guys that are part of organizations

1588
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: at the higher executive decision making level because they start

1589
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: when they start when they don't need a job, like

1590
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: they know nobody cares. Von Miller's you don't need to

1591
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: be at the Combined in Indianapolis, but by going there

1592
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: and putting in some effort and displaying the commitment to say, listen,

1593
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't need to do this. I mean, I gotta

1594
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: like a pile of money. I got stuff going on,

1595
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: but I want to learn how to do this. And

1596
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: when you get known for having an appetite to learn

1597
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: it and do it right and to be part of

1598
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: that process, you know, some of the long We're a

1599
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: long guys will give him a chance. All right, go Scout.

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01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I want you to go take the PAC twelve and

1601
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: scout that conference. Come back with some guys you think

1602
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: can play that kind of thing. Let's go. Guys got

1603
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: a plan for what they're gonna do with the rest

1604
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: of their lives. And Vaughan fittingly and predictably has very

1605
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: a very high goal for when he finishes. It's the

1606
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: way it should be. We are going to take a

1607
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: break here because we come back. We got to crack

1608
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: open the tweet sheet for some of your final thoughts

1609
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: on did your mind change at all about what the

1610
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: Bills or who the Bill should draft based on what

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: you heard or saw at last week's NFL combine. We'll

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01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: get those coming your way next here on One Bill's Live,

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01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio

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01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: all right. Time for us to quickly hit the tweet

1615
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: sheets where we were asking you what has changed in

1616
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 1: your mind about who the Bills should draft following the

1617
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: NFL Combine and all that we saw and heard from

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: there last week. Tweet cheat brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: Jack Leeds Us often says the impressive run and size

1621
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: of Darnell Washington a tight end, really has me thinking

1622
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: he could be an X factor weapon for our offense

1623
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: if he's still there at twenty seven. We know the

1624
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Bills draft traits, and this guy has traits and measurables

1625
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: in spates should be an excellent blocker too. Andrew says,

1626
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking if we lose Edmonds, we might want

1627
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: to draft a linebacker, but I love the way Kendricks plays,

1628
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: and since he was released by the Vikings, maybe we

1629
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: go after him. Yeah, it is a good free agent class,

1630
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: yea of linebackers. You're gonna get a guy, even if

1631
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: you pay him, You're going to get a guy that

1632
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: can perform up to the length of that contract. Maybe

1633
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: if you get one year deal at a guy or whatever.

1634
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: Even if you do, if you get even a three

1635
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: year deal, then you can really spread the money out

1636
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: at I agree. I think free agencies the way to go.

1637
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: If they can free up enough cash to get guys

1638
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: in here, I think that's definitely. It's too important a

1639
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: position to drop a rookie and then go for it year,

1640
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like eighteen when they dropped

1641
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 1: Tremaine Emmons in there as a rookie. They were coming

1642
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: off a nine and seven back into the playoff season

1643
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: and they were still a roster that was being retooled,

1644
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: and they started they started our boy Jeff I can't

1645
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: remember his name now, the quarterback, and eighteen that we

1646
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: ended up having to the guy. Oh you're talking about

1647
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: when everybody got hurt, everybody got hurt. Had to start Anderson.

1648
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: They picked him off of the couch. Yeah, but Derek Anderson. Yeah.

1649
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: But before after that, it was a rookie ahead of

1650
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: Josh was starting Peter Peterman, Nathan Peterman. They had to play,

1651
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and then it was Josh for the bulk of the season.

1652
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: I mean, they started a rookie quarterback. And then here's

1653
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: what who who cares what? They started a rookie linebacker.

1654
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: They had a quarterback. There was a rookie. Yeah, Josh says.

1655
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: If anything I desire to trade out of the first

1656
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: round has been strengthened following the combine, I'm not sold

1657
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: on there being more value to the Bills with one

1658
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: player twenty seven overall versus three to four picks we

1659
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: could require in return for trading back. If you want

1660
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: three to four picks for trading back, you'll be back

1661
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: on the fourth round. Yeah, one pick extra great idea,

1662
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: but it's not going to get done. That's it's just

1663
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: too much. You're asking too much for that. All right,

1664
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: another rock solid show coming your way tomorrow at one,

1665
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Steve and I'll see that