WEBVTT - Rosie O'Donnell: Common Knowledge, Uncommon Friends, and Her Distaste for Flan 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.960 Welcome to Bleep with Anna Navarro this week, and I 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.520 got a treat. I got a treat, thank you for 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.119 doing this. I've got my friend, my former colleague, somebody 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.880 that I admire. I like, we always have fun. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:22.400 I just I. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.720 Miss I missed you. I miss Miami. I miss bumping 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.800 into you, seeing Gloria and you and everyone. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.360 That was like, okay, so let's talk about your Miami period. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.240 Come on. So for a while you lived in Miami 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.959 twenty years. You had a hell of a house there. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.960 And it was Gloria and Amelia and you know you 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:38.720 are in a buy it. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.880 Do you know how much that house would be worth 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:41.879 right now? I know? 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.080 But you know what, at the time, it was so 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.000 big and so empty, and my kids didn't want to 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.519 go anymore. They got to be teenagers. They're like, what 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.360 do you mean Miami. I'm like, oh, God forbid the 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:53.600 boat and the jet skis. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.560 Well, now everybody wants to live in Miami. Yeah, like 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.440 that island where you had that Yes, that house would 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.120 be eighty million dollars. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.039 Yeah, I know, but you know, the gross excess of 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.679 America's too much for me. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.200 And you were One of my favorite things though, is well, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.720 two things I want to talk to you about on 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.760 your Miami years. Okay, what is something that I have 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.480 an issue with you about? Go? You don't like flyn 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.000 hate it? Who does not like fly? It is the 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.360 best assert in the world. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.039 First of all, it has the consistency of mucus. And 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.800 I have told Gloria this, and she insists I keep 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.119 trying different flonds, but I will only do it when 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.160 I lose a bet to her. So, you've never met 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.320 a flan that you have liked? No, but I've tasted 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.399 a bunch of flonds with you know, they like oysters 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.959 to me. I don't want oysters either. Don't give me 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.160 an oyster or a flwd Jesus. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.400 Girl, you're a lesbian? What's wrong with you? 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.240 Oysters? Mean? Come on? 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.560 I know that's the truth. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.880 I can't even figure it out. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.800 And my other but the other story of what you're 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.520 going to tell is what you used to do. No, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.040 what Gloria used to do to you. Come by on 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:00.200 the boat. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.360 Yeah, come by on the boat. Moon us and her 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.520 kid went through a phase of mooning. My kids went 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.080 through a phase of mooning. The tourist boats that would 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.200 come by, and you know, we lamented about our difficult 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.600 children that we had, and you know, she always had 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.079 a lot of great animals. My kids loved going over 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.400 to her house. Emily was a little girl, we used 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.679 to have playdates together. It was a beautiful life there. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.280 I loved going through like a well you're still I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.000 think going through, but we're going through like an arts 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:28.200 and crafts period. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.480 Well, I'm very crafty. I enjoy crafts of all times. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.799 Because she tells a story where she would come by 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.120 on the boat and scream at you with a with 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.799 a megaphone, Rosie, yeah, pot down the macaroni, stop gluing macaroni, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.320 and come outside. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.280 And she also never believed that we were actually playing scrabble. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.280 She'd go, oh, we know what, that's a euphemism for. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.640 I'm like, it's not we're actually playing scrabble, you know. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.240 So we have a very I had a very big 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.160 craft room in that house, and the people who bought 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.639 it asked that we keep it like that and leave 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.400 all the supplies. So I was very happy that it 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.919 would be full of kids, you know, full of and 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.359 we left like the little motorcycles we had for the 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.959 kids to go around the island. It was an idyllic life. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.919 When we lived there. I loved it very much. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.640 And then you rented for a while. It was it 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.839 was so much fun having you there. Yeah, but let's 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.440 get started on some of the issues that I want 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.399 to talk about. Okay, we can talk about anything you want, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.880 but you no longer live in America. And you know. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.679 Part of the reason, of course, that was a big 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.560 part of the reason is Donald Trump. And I don't 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.080 know if you remember this, but for me it was 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.160 such a significant moment. I remember the first Republican primary 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.520 debate in twenty fifteen. It was in Cleveland. It was 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.640 where the Mavericks not the Mavericks, what are they called 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.840 Cavaliers play And I was sitting there, I was in 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.360 the audience, and I had my phone. And that was 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.600 the debate when Trump got asked, you call by Megan Kelly, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.600 you call women fat pig slobs. And he responded, yeah, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:03.960 but that's just rosy o'donne. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.280 He said, only rosy O'Donnell, and the whole place he 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.760 erupted in laughter. Yes, And I had. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.120 My phone on my lap and my phone vibrated and 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.000 I looked down and it was a text from you. Yes, 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.760 and Your text said, how do I explain this? I'm 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.159 watching with my children. How do I explain this to 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:21.920 my children? Crime? 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.599 Because Parker was you know, he was ten years old, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.480 nine years old, and he's like, you know, what's going 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.919 on now? When the fight started in two thousand and six, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.040 he was on every interview show. He would do every 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.039 interview show and just sort of debate and degrade and 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.479 slander and shame and you know, be a misogynistic idiot 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.160 that he is. And my kids were very upset about it, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.000 you know, and they started calling him dump Truck because 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.960 they couldn't remember his name, so they'd say, they were 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.240 little mommy, does that mean dump Truck still mad at you? 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.680 I'm like, yes, he's still mad at me. You know 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.360 what what did you do? I said? I made fun 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.360 of him, like a lot of comedians do. But most 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.839 of those comedians are boys, and he doesn't seem to 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.240 like girls very much at all. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.480 Are you following his attacks particularly on female ordourse? So 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.120 you saw through him back then. This was way before 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.960 he was thinking of running for president. This was way 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.520 before all of that. When did you first meet Trump? 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.599 I first met him at his wedding. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.120 You were at his wedding, yes, which one to Marla 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.920 Maples you enjoy Joy Joy was there as well, and 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.039 she also was at Liza Minelli's. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.600 Wedding, which was in New York too. We were at 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.360 that one together too. But yeah, I was invited because 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.719 Jason Opsell, who has since passed away a Broadway leading man. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.520 He was a leading man with Marla and will Roger's 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.479 Follies and then he went to do Greece where with 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.719 me as Kaniki and I was Rizzil, and so he 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.440 was invited to the wedding. I went as his plus one, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.960 and it was like a kick because I thought to myself, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.880 this is the guy that I grew up watching his 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.880 planes be repossessed off the runways of Laguadia, watching him 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.440 declare bankruptcy, all the time, him arguing with Forbes magazine 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.840 about that he was richer than they say, but they 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.080 always said, sorry, we're not putting you on the list 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.679 because we can't quantify your income. Because it's all smoke 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.800 and mirrors with him. He's just a grifter, a con man, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.960 a snake oil salesman. And if you grew up on 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.279 Long Island as I did, or in New York, city. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.200 You knew this your whole life. This was not a surprise. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.800 He was never on my show except one time. He 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.240 kept calling and asking and I kept saying, no, I 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.680 have no interest in having him on the show. And 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.800 then a broom company gave us one thousand dollars for 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.960 charity for everyone who would come on and sweep with 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.880 the swifter broom and I made him like a janitor 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.080 sweep and then I waved from my desk and we 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.560 went to commercial. And I never spoke to him. So 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.240 the first time that I saw him or was in 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.760 his presence was at his wedding wow. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.720 And then of course there's the clip that guys getting 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.560 keeps getting played of you on the View. Yes, what 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:13.920 was that? Remind me what that was? 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.800 He had just had a press conference and we were 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.000 preempted because he had Tara O'Connor, who was the Miss 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:27.240 Junior Universe winner, was in a bar in the Greenwich 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.680 Village kissing a girl and Page six got a picture 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.480 of it and put her on the cover, and Donald 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.600 Trump preempted the View to make her at a press conference. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.880 Apologized to him and to the country. I said, since 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.360 wanna see the moral arbiter of behavior of teenage girls 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.880 and what other millionaires own beauty pageants. He was suss 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.920 from the beginning, as my kids say. So, you know, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:59.520 I never held him in any esteem. I saw right 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.240 through him, as every New Yorker in my opinion, does, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.240 and that's why he was greeted the way he was 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.880 at the KNXT game, even though he's bosom buddies with 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:08.400 the owner. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.200 But you know something I actually think that helped him. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.520 I think that helped him get elected president in twenty sixteen. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.800 The fact that people knew who he was, right, and 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.840 they knew him as this braggadocious jerk from the Apprentice, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.160 So because he had so much name ida and he 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.480 had name ideas being kind of like what he is. Yes, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:33.600 we've been seeing him be a self centered jerk. He 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.840 got away with doing things and being things that nobody, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.920 no other normal politician could have gotten away with. Correct, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.559 No other politician other than Donald Trump could get away 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:48.760 with America hearing him boast about sexual assault, about grabbing 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.400 a woman by the pussy, and then a month later 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.800 they went and voted for him, including Christians, including Catholics, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.079 including people who you know stayed away from him for 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.960 three days as they went and pray about what to 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.720 do and then came back and voted for him. And 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.240 it's because of that, because they were used to that. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.520 If we had seen a Mitt Romney do something like that, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.680 he'd be out of the race the next day. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:10.959 Right. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.640 But I really do blame Mark Burnett and the producers 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.120 of The Apprentice for selling a lie to the American public, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.600 for selling that show as fact when it was fiction, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:26.679 and pretending that this man, this mediocre man, was somehow 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.559 a leading businessman in the country, that he was somehow 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.840 an equivalent to Warren Buffett. Give me a break. It 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:39.400 is the biggest load of crap, and he's so easy 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.880 to see through that I find it very unbelievable that 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.560 people can't see him for who he is, even with 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:53.640 thirty four felonies convictions, even with all of the man 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.680 who started an insurrection, who conducted and condoned and sat 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:03.280 there doing nothing during the insurrection, not saving the police officers, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.360 not saving the Congress and Senate, who was hiding as 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.320 they were chanting to kill people. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.880 His own vice president. Correct, where were you when that happened. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.120 I was sitting home with my kids, and I was 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.160 watching it going, this can't be happening in America? Is 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.760 this actually happening? I was in complete and total shock. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.960 And then when he ran again and got the nomination again, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.520 That's when I read Project twenty twenty five and I 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:37.640 couldn't believe that it was published in a book that 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.319 Americans could have bought and read. But they didn't. They 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.599 didn't give it any attention. And everything that they proposed 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.520 in that book has been done to a t. And 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.120 the reason I left is I finished the whole book. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.480 I know what is coming, and I know what he's 0:10:55.520 --> 0:11:00.280 capable of, and watching what Ice has done all over 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.679 this country, the concentration camps that are being built, the 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:08.960 perpetual lies that he tells, the bullying, the blackmail of universities, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:16.119 of television networks and studios, the grifting billions of dollars 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.320 for the last eighteen months in broad daylight because the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.600 illegitimate Supreme Court gave him a get out of jail 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:29.679 free card forever and his children forever. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.840 And the feckless Congress has no oversight. Correct. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.400 And if I read one more tweet from a congress 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.520 person or a Senator Democrat, usually saying how horrible it is, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.000 what he's doing, but not having a plan. Where's the 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:48.319 plan that this man? We're not wondering if fascism is arriving. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.040 Fascism has arrived and it's here. And they announced that 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:56.839 they were sending ice out in large numbers on election day? 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:03.920 Are you kidding me? That this administration announced that publicly, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.120 didn't have to deny it. And the news media just goes, well, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.560 it's very interesting. Apparently they're going to be sending ice 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:17.880 out on election day? Not holy shit, what the fuck 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.720 has happened to our country? No one is pressing the 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.360 alarm button, nobody is breaking the glass in case of emergency. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.880 It is past time, America. And if my speaking out 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:34.240 encourages anyone to speak out, to not be afraid of him. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.240 Fear is a tool of fascism and that's what he's using. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:44.560 Lies and fear and intimidation and bullying. And I can't 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.400 wait for that female reporter to shut up, shut him 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.240 up the next time he says something. How about a 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:55.240 right to his face? Fuck you, you pedophile? Who do you 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.800 think you are? That's what I would say to him. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.360 You would. But I've always wondered why the whole press 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:04.400 court doesn't just walk out. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.000 I agree. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.440 I say, you know what, Okay, We're not gonna stand 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.360 here and have you berate one of our colleagues this 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.839 way while we're standing here in the Oval office. We're 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.880 all gonna walk out and guess what. You can stay 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.160 here with An and Fox News and see how that 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.800 goes forward. Loves the coverage, or they can hate the 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:21.760 lack of solidarity. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.760 They could have a buzzer right every time he lies, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.320 buzz every time he lies, a cricket noise every time 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.600 he lies. There's so many things the press cort can do. Oh, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.640 we don't have any choice. Well, once someone gets him 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.719 on a question that he then beerates and insults and 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.680 degrades a woman, the next question from any human should 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.080 be the same question the woman asked, and just that camaraderie. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.360 That But there is no. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.360 Fourth estate anymore. It's corporately owned, and once they own 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.800 the information, they can bend it all they want, as 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:58.440 John Mayer says, and they do, and America is falling 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.600 apart because of it. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.440 Now, walk me through when you started thinking about leaving 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.400 and just that decision making process, because I feel like 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.559 there's a lot of people thinking about it. There's a 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.080 lot of people. There's some people who have done it, Yes, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.520 but I mean it feels like a you know, it 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.000 feels like a big decision. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.680 Well, I was never one of those celebrities who said, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.800 if he gets elected, I'm going to do X, Y 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.960 and Z. When I saw he got the Republican nomination, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.600 I was positive that he would not. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.600 Win twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:36.680 Twenty twenty four. Positive, not like I was positive he 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.240 was not. We were not going to elect the man 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.560 who led an insurrection against the United States, who's a 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:49.560 convicted sexual rapist. You can't say rapist, You'll get in trouble. Well, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.480 CBS got in trouble. They capitulated, They did exactly what 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.720 Stephen Colbert said they did. They gave him a bribe, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.360 and it's unforgivable. We need the fourth estate and a 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.880 democracy to hold up the all three branches. We need 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:12.120 it checks and balances. We need a very vibrant, alive, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.320 independent media, and we no longer have it in this country. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.720 But what walk me through the emotions that led you 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.120 to leave? Were you were you scared? 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.640 Well, I was very concerned about my mental health because 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.160 while he was in last time. It was not a 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.360 good time for me. I was drinking too much, I 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.680 was eating too much. I was very, very depressed. I 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:37.479 painted hundreds of portraits of him to sort of exercise 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.600 it from my body. But I have PTSD from all 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.400 the abuse that he gave me for twenty years. People say, well, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.120 you gave it right back. Yeah, I did. Because if I, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.520 a person of privilege and power in this country, can't 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.360 give it right back to him, what chances do the 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.440 Epstein survivors have. What chance does any immigrant who's been 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.480 put in a concentration camp have. We have to use 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.200 our voice, our free speech while we still have remnants 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.720 of it in the United States. Now they're going and 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.000 arresting people who protest peacefully assemble as is our. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.040 Rights, killing them, killing them Renee Good and Alex Pretty. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.800 But there's a difference between going toe to toe with 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.120 him giving it right back before he was president. You 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.040 did for many years. Now you know, with him as president. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.680 I've experienced this. I know what it's like for Donald 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.320 Trump to tweet against you. Yes, I mean you know. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.560 I've had crazy shit sent to my house. I have 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:41.760 had people berate me at airports and supermarkets and follow me. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.920 And you know, I'm living my life in a different 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.480 way than I did before, So I don't know that 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.680 people don't understand what happens. It's like the gates of 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.120 hell open up and every little demon walks through it 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.120 to attack you. When this guy says I'm going after 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.520 Rosie O'Donnell or Bruce Springs or you know. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.919 A Taylor Swift or Meryl Streep or Robert de Niro or. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.560 All of our dead people like Robert Mueller and Rob 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.280 Reiner and John McCain. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.840 Well, he is a man with no moral fiber. He's 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:20.200 a man who is a narcissistic mentally ill. I really 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:24.400 believe he is a severe mental illness untreated, and he's 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.320 in a narcissistic collapse, if you ask me, which happens 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.520 to narcissists. And he's so physically ailed by adled or 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:37.560 adult by his illnesses, now by his frontal temporal lobe dementia. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.040 And everyone's pretending, you know, for Mark Rubio to say 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.960 I've never seen him sleep during a meeting. 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:45.879 There's video. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.600 He's right there. It's it's purposeful false. We'll leave doing 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.879 a basketball case, right WillFull blindness people have willful blindness 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:55.919 when it comes to him. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.720 Which is different than Democrats, right, because I remember, you 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.120 know a lot of people talking about Joe Biden's health, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.840 including you, and they were Democrats, They were elected Democrats, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.959 they were famous Democrats. You clooney, I mean, you know 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.920 people axel Rod going public about their concerns about Biden's health. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.600 I kept saying, I will vote for Biden even if 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.440 he's in a coma. But I have yet to see 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.399 one elected Republican or Republican of influence talk about the 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.480 fact that his ankles are like the size of tree trunks, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.879 that his hands are completely bruised, and there's some mismatch makeup, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.960 that he's got some weird ass scab on the side 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.000 of his neck were probably an ivy tube goes in 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.520 and then he shows up. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.679 And it looked like when his eye is closed, he is, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.359 you know, but they say he's had a series of 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:57.359 many strokes. He's you know, compromised enough to not understand 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.960 what he's taking. When he does a cognitive test, he 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.480 thinks that he's acing the tests that measured just how 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.720 bad the dementia is. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.640 I think I know the answer, But why Ireland. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.520 My geneticistory is Irish. I did twenty three in May 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.200 and where one hundred percent Irish. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.359 My family, you are one hundred percent Irish. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.160 Me and Conan O'Brien both got one hundred percent back 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:27.240 from twenty three. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.720 On me when I did Skip Gates show. Yeah, I'm 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.080 like thirty seven different things. I come from a long 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:34.400 line of wondering sluts. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.200 So your people just your heines fifty seven right there. 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:40.960 Your people just slept with each other. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.359 Yes exactly. It was just you know, Irish all the 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.000 way through. And I had been there after my mother died. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.920 My father took us five children. 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:50.920 So how old were you when that was ten? 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.400 Yeah, And we went to Dunny Gaull, which is right 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.719 on the border of northern Ireland, and it was at 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.320 the time of the troubles, it was nineteen seventy three. 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.880 There was tremendous us rest, unrest there were you know, 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.760 we were in Belfast, right near Belfast. My cousins were 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.679 from there as well, and I was familiar with it. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.919 I needed a country where English was spoken because Clay 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:21.960 is you know, autistic and very very smart and cannot 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.800 do languages or math. And she has this calculus. She 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:31.200 can't do math, and she, you know, has some trouble 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.040 with dyslexia as well. And so I knew we needed 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.720 an English speaking country and it was really my only choice. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.359 I never thought about going to England. I never thought about, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.040 you know, going anywhere else. I just knew that I 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.119 would go to Ireland. I have cousins there still, so 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.159 they've been very helpful to me, and they've treated you 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:55.639 wonder wonderfully. It's such a welcoming country. And when they. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.840 Don't have I need to come visit you please. 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:03.240 I'm in Dublin. They have no celebrity culture here and 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:08.280 no gross excess. It's a very small country. And when 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.280 we got there, do people know who you are? 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:10.800 Yes? 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.000 But very different than in the United States. They'll see 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.480 me and they'll go, welcome, Rosie, You're welcome in Ireland, 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.280 and I'll go, thank you so much. Or they'll say, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.560 you know, can I buy you a pint? I'm not sure, buddy, 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:24.800 why do you want to buy me a pint? Because 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.760 I hate them too, And I'm like, well, give me 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.240 a Smithicks then let's go, you know, and we sit 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.159 and have a talk about politics. I was in a 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.159 beer garden in the back where families eat, like you know, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.879 chicken nuggets and stuff with clay. And there was a 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.240 little baby and she was playing with the baby, or 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.000 they were playing with the baby. And finally, at the 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.399 end of the two and a half hour dinner, we 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.200 got up to leave. We said goodbye, and they said, 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.399 by the way, we're huge fans. And I said, and 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:52.679 you didn't want to bring it up, And you know what, 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.320