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Speaker 1: This is America's Voice Live with Steve Grouper.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gert. Today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth of March. Let's get to the day's stop choice.

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Speaker 2: Thank you as always for spending time with us here

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Speaker 1: We truly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt held a press.

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Speaker 1: Briefing just before the program.

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Speaker 2: Today has some very interesting news to share to say

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Speaker 2: the least.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: Also, now that the government is open for the next

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Speaker 2: six months, what should the government be doing to cut waste,

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Speaker 2: frauden abuse? And then later a university now going against

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Speaker 2: becoming sanctuary campuses.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out.

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Speaker 2: All of that more coming up in America's Voice Live

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Speaker 2: on this Wednesday, but we begin here. There have been

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Speaker 2: calls from a Beach judge James Boseburg, after he halted

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Speaker 2: deportation efforts by the Trump administration. Chief Justice John Roberts

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Speaker 2: even weighed in against impeachment charges against Boseburg. One thing

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Speaker 2: is clear, there's a problem with some of the judges

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Speaker 2: in this country, and earlier today Caroline Levitt during that briefing,

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Speaker 2: addressed it.

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Speaker 6: She said this that the judges in this country are

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Speaker 6: acting erroneously. We have judges who are acting as partisan

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Speaker 6: activists from the bench. They are trying to dictate policy

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Speaker 6: from the President of the United States. They are trying

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Speaker 6: to clearly slow walk this administration's agenda, and it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: As she pointed out, these judges clearly trying to interfere

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Speaker 1: For example, here's.

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Speaker 2: Me to discuss this as the senior legal fellow at

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Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation, Thomas Chiffing. Tom, Nice to have you

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Speaker 2: back on the program. Really appreciate it. Look, so here's

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Speaker 2: the question a lot of Americans have. How can a

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Speaker 2: district judge in some district in Washington or Massachusetts or wherever,

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Speaker 2: a single district judge stop the president of the unization

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Speaker 2: illegally violent criminals.

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Speaker 1: How can that happen? Is it constitutional? Is this the

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Speaker 1: way it's supposed to work?

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Speaker 7: Well, keep in mind that these decisions so far have

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Speaker 7: been temporary. In fact, the one that got a lot

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Speaker 7: judges in said that it was only good for fourteen days.

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Speaker 7: These are temporary decisions because the judicial process involving the

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Speaker 7: lawsuits against these executive orders has barely even begun. So

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Speaker 7: judges are supposed to be very cautious about stopping policies

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Speaker 7: and that's what the debate is about. Are judges exceeding

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this judge.

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Speaker 2: Chief Justice John Roberts weighed in and said, basically, I'm

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Speaker 2: just giving you my peace of mind. And yet the

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Speaker 7: I don't know anything about how the press office at

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Speaker 7: Chief Justice doesn't have an opinion on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Gerald Ford had an opinion on that many years ago.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it.

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Speaker 7: It is of course those who do participate in at

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Speaker 4: So it shouldn't be used that way.

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Speaker 7: But under the Constitution, the House is the sole power

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Speaker 7: finish that process with a trial.

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's talk about the general premise though, of justices

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Speaker 2: wait a second, how can we have these district judges

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Speaker 2: it laid out there pretty well by Stephen Miller here

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Speaker 2: was a pretty good illustration of how much overreached that

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Speaker 1: But I guess this is all they have left on

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Speaker 7: Correct, Well, it's not unusual for the left more often

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Speaker 4: There's two issues here.

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Speaker 7: One is judges may issue injunctions, and that's provided for

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Speaker 7: The bigger issue is how far or an injunction should reach.

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Speaker 4: And the question those are the kind of injunctions being issued.

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Speaker 2: you just explained to me. It's not normal. This is

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Speaker 1: Look precedent a lot.

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Speaker 2: They like president, So this is setting a new president

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Speaker 7: It's not setting a new president. Judges have issued injunctions

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Speaker 7: The question is in these cases whether these orders meet

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Speaker 7: national injunctions are a huge problem, and more often than

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Speaker 7: not they exceeded judges authority.

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Speaker 2: Well, and let me ask about a couple of specific examples,

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Speaker 1: This is one.

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Speaker 2: Example where a judge comes back and says, no, you

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Speaker 1: Because it seems that.

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Speaker 2: The judiciary wants to run the executive branch in addition

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Speaker 7: Own well, of course, the Constitution an Article two gives

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Speaker 4: Of course, there are every branch.

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Speaker 7: Has to comply with certain kinds of legal constitutional to

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Speaker 7: judges going too far. I read the opinion of the

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Speaker 7: Trump put in his executive order. But none of that

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Speaker 2: Why would it be put in there unless you're an

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Speaker 2: activist judge. To me, Thomas, there will be no reason

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Speaker 1: And you're right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these decrees, these orders are temporary, but

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Speaker 2: the ultimate outcome. And it seems to me that it's

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Speaker 2: being done for the specific reason to obstruct a political

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, well, it's too tempting.

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Speaker 7: These injunctions are too tempting to use in place of

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Speaker 7: the full judicial process that includes a lot of other elements.

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Speaker 7: These judges are too quick to issue them, they're too

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Speaker 7: broad when they do. And I think that your observation

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Speaker 7: be reversed because they're simply policy judgments masquerading as legal rulings.

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Speaker 2: Do you have faith in Chief Justice John Robbers that

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Speaker 2: free reign to run his division of government? There are

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Speaker 2: three co equal branches. It doesn't mean the judiciary can

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Speaker 2: the legislative. Is a coequal branch of government?

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Speaker 1: What do you expect?

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Speaker 7: Well, if by free reign you mean no limits at all,

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Speaker 7: none of the branches have free reign.

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Speaker 1: I befind that when a case comes.

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Speaker 3: But Steve, you're absolutely right. The American people have no

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Speaker 2: again today.

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Speaker 8: They want to make sure that they have the sentiment

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Speaker 8: of all the senators from all over the ideological spectrum

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Speaker 8: in the Republican conference over there. But at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day, we need to pass first and foremost

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Speaker 8: the tax bill that supercharges the economy. As you put it,

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Speaker 8: I think that's absolutely critical. We've already seen a little

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Speaker 8: bit of shakiness in markets. We need to start driving

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Speaker 8: down prices. We need to start trimming away at the

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Speaker 8: size of government, and we need to make sure that

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Speaker 8: Americans aren't going to face a multi trillion dollar tax

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Speaker 8: increase at the end of next year. The time to

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Speaker 8: move is pretty much now.

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Speaker 2: The time to move is pretty much how Brandon, I

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Speaker 2: accept that sentiment when you look at tax policy, and

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Speaker 2: of course we want to send the Trump tax cuts

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Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen and make them permanent, but tax policy

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Speaker 2: long term, I see a lot of states, in New

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Speaker 2: Hampshire being the latest. I believe on the first degeneral

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Speaker 2: went to a zero tax, no income tax in the

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Speaker 2: san New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: I think that becomes state number eight.

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Speaker 2: And you see these states like Tennessee and Florida, now

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. We'll see where they are in a year

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Speaker 2: or two. But you know what the result is. We've

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Speaker 2: seen this play out before. The lower of the taxes,

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Speaker 2: the more economic activity, and then the larger the tax

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Speaker 2: revenue for the state or the county or whomever lower's taxes.

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Speaker 2: We've seen this from John Kennedy, We've seen it with

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Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan, and we'll see it again now, won't we.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, You see where people are moving right now. They're

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Speaker 8: voting with their feet. They're moving to Texas, they're moving

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Speaker 8: to Florida, they're moving to low tax states like North

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Speaker 8: Carolina and Arizona. All because, not all because, but largely

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Speaker 8: because of the tax climate there, the regulatory climate, the

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Speaker 8: fact that these states can be run with a relatively

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Speaker 8: low level of spending and certainly low level of taxation.

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Speaker 8: So we need to emulate that for the federal government,

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Speaker 8: driving down tax rates the best we can making the

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Speaker 8: government smaller. We've started to see some progress from those,

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Speaker 8: but it's time for Congress to participate in this heavy

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Speaker 8: lift here, because those cuts.

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Speaker 1: As you allude to, could be struck down by courts.

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Speaker 8: The way to get around that, of course, is to

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Speaker 8: have Congress and enack some of these cuts as statutes

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Speaker 8: as the President signed them into the law, and then

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Speaker 8: courts are buying large going to be unable to overturn them.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I know this might not be exactly your side of

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Speaker 2: the street, but I know you pay attention to this.

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Speaker 2: And I just saw an announcement just before we came

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Speaker 2: on today of this major furniture manufacturer leaving British Columbia

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Speaker 2: and coming the United States because of tariffs, saying, well,

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Speaker 2: we can't compete and most of our market is in America.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing our factory to the United States.

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Speaker 2: So when you look at tax policy, hard to divorce

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Speaker 2: that from tariff policy. And tariffs, you know, are a tool,

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Speaker 2: not a long term solution, I don't believe. But it

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Speaker 2: does elicit change from our trading partners, doesn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it does, And we're still working through this tariff situation.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 8: I'm a fan of low tariffs. I do agree that

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Speaker 8: we need to drive down tariffs abroad. We need to

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Speaker 8: open up markets for United States manufacturers, our producers. We

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Speaker 8: make some of the best stuff on the planet, and

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Speaker 8: for countries that block us out of their markets I

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Speaker 8: think is completely inappropriate. So let's use tariffs to the

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Speaker 8: extent that we need to. I think for that isolated

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Speaker 8: purpose I don't think we can reinvent the United States

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Speaker 8: economy that way. I think the best way to do

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Speaker 8: that is really good tax policy. We are pretty close

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Speaker 8: to the market twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: We need to build on that success to make sure

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Speaker 8: we're incentivizing manufacturers to come here, to stay here, to

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Speaker 8: grow here, and to create a lot of jobs along

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Speaker 8: the way.

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Speaker 2: Targeted tariffs with specific goals in mind, they seem to work. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: broad based tariffs probably not as effective. Brandon Urlwys. I

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Speaker 2: talk about the insanity after the break.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: American University's student body has passed a referendum now advocating

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Speaker 2: for stronger protections for illegal alien students, including urging the

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Speaker 2: university to declare itself a sanctuary campus. The resolution calls

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Speaker 2: on the university's shield the identities of undocumented students from

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Speaker 2: federal authorities into prohibit ice from entering campus unless presented

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Speaker 2: with a judicial warrant. The measure, which passed earlier in

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Speaker 2: March for flex growing student activism on immigration policy, joint

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Speaker 2: out to discuss as campus. From correspondent and a student

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Speaker 2: at Old Dominion University Virginia, Grace McKinnon, Virginia, thank you

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Speaker 2: for being here. I guess the university would be the

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Speaker 2: latest to say the rules don't apply to us, We'll

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Speaker 2: do as we please.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just saw a.

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Speaker 2: University get I think at the University of Pennsylvania just

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Speaker 2: lost two hundred and seventy five million dollars in federal funding.

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Speaker 2: How long will these universities stand on principle when their

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Speaker 2: bank accounts start to drain.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't think they have much time

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Speaker 5: if that funding is in jeopardy. So American University's student

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Speaker 5: government association has passed a referendum requesting that their campus

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Speaker 5: be a sanctuary campus, protecting illegal immigrants over the safety

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Speaker 5: of American citizens.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is a higher.

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Speaker 5: This is a trend in higher education that we're seeing

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Speaker 5: across the country, as you mentioned, and the American population

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Speaker 5: just doesn't agree with this. The Leadership Institute Campus Reform

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Speaker 5: we're reporting on this as well as a professor in

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Speaker 5: North Carolina College has openly defended the Lake and Riley Act,

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Speaker 5: deeming it deeming it unsafe for illegal immigrants on their

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Speaker 5: college campus, when in reality it is protecting American citizens safety.

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Speaker 5: So this is higher education is completely out of touch

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Speaker 5: with the rest of America. Polls are showing that a

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Speaker 5: majority of Americans support President Trump and his actions to

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Speaker 5: deport illegal criminal immigrants from our country, from our country,

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Speaker 5: and from our campus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so how is it at your school?

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Speaker 2: I mean, did the kids there really believe that somebody

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Speaker 2: here illegally should have the opportunity to come here, get

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Speaker 2: a free education, not be accountable to the laws.

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Speaker 1: What is the I mean?

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Speaker 2: And look, there's probably some mixed feelings there about some

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Speaker 2: of a nice kid, but he's here illegally. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how does this all balance out?

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking you.

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Speaker 5: On my campus, students do support this. Students are supporting

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Speaker 5: illegal immigrants getting free tuition, getting in state tuition, and everybody,

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Speaker 5: all students are agreeing with this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So how does it strike you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's here's a kid that comes in from

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Speaker 2: some other country gets free free everything. Basically, let's be

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Speaker 2: clear about this. They get all sorts of free stuff,

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Speaker 2: bucket loads of free stuff.

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Speaker 1: When was your education free? Was everything free to you, Virginia? No,

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Speaker 1: my education was not free. I pay for own for

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Speaker 1: my own.

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Speaker 5: Tuition, and I work hard for it. And these students,

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Speaker 5: these illegal immigrants coming onto our college campuses, are not

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Speaker 5: having to work hard for it. The schools are protecting them,

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Speaker 5: and so I think it is completely unfair. Immigration enforcement

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Speaker 5: is common sense. These immigrants are crossing our border illegally,

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Speaker 5: committing crimes, and these crimes are preventable. These crimes wouldn't

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Speaker 5: have happened. These people shouldn't be here in the first place.

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Speaker 2: So has there been any change? I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I've been at old dominion, let's even there a couple

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Speaker 2: of years or whatever. Has there been any change of opinion?

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Speaker 2: Because I saw college kids in North Carolina and elsewhere

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Speaker 2: that were raising the American flag, tearing down the flag

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Speaker 2: of Ukraine in Mexico or wherever they might have been from,

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Speaker 2: or Palestinian flash being torn down because kids at some

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Speaker 2: universities have had enough, They've had their fill, and people

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Speaker 2: like Charlie Kirk have done a remarkable job of penetrating

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Speaker 2: into these younger groups of students to say, look, here's

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Speaker 2: where you're wrong and here's why you're wrong, and they

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Speaker 2: seem to accept it. They seem to understand. Has there

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Speaker 2: been a shift at all in places like where you

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Speaker 2: go to school or to other students and people that

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Speaker 2: you know well.

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Speaker 5: We are seeing a shift in states and campuses. The

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Speaker 5: University of Georgia, where Lake and Riley went to school,

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Speaker 5: has pledged one point seven million dollars to ensure campus security.

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Speaker 5: Governor Rond De Santas of Florida has eliminated in state

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Speaker 5: tuition for these illegal immigrants in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 5: So I do think we are seeing a push. There

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Speaker 5: are people going in the right direction, but we need

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Speaker 5: to keep talking about it because it's still a problem

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Speaker 5: and there are still people supporting and prioritizing illegal immigrants

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Speaker 5: over the safety of American citizens on college campuses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sad, isn't it. Virginia. I greatly appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 2: I hope that these kids can come in. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, move the needle with people in your demographic

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Speaker 2: and your age bracket and your generation. So maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: some common sense to seeking in. But we'll keep an

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Speaker 2: eye on it. We'll have you back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 9: Yes, well, thank you so much again for having me on, Steve.

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Speaker 9: It's good to see you. So for our audience who

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Speaker 9: doesn't know what tax Network USA is where a team

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Speaker 9: of experienced tax professionals. We have DPAs, We have enrolled agents,

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Speaker 9: tax attorneys who really dispecialize in helping individuals like our

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Speaker 9: audience and businesses resolve IRS issues, state tax issues, things

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Speaker 9: of that nature. We handle anything from tax relief to

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Speaker 9: IRS negotiation, basically acting like liaison between you and the

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Speaker 9: IRS so you don't have to wait on.

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Speaker 1: Hold for hours.

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Speaker 9: And we do have relationships establish relationships with the IRS

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Speaker 9: agents as well so we can do audit defense, tax preparation. Really,

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Speaker 9: our mission is just to help hard working Americans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give me an idea, Cameron, the range of clients

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Speaker 2: you work with. I mean some folks. I mean I

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Speaker 2: hear this. I can't even believe I hear things like this,

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Speaker 2: I haven't paid my taxes in five years. I like, really,

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Speaker 2: do you not like your house, your car, the place

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Speaker 2: you live?

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Speaker 1: It makes me wonder what they're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but give me the range of the clients and

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Speaker 2: the folks you normally work with.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's an interesting question. We've seen everything, Like just

689
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Speaker 9: what you said. We work with everyday americans, business owners,

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Speaker 9: We've helped self employed individuals as well, retirees. W two employees,

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Speaker 9: anybody who's really just found themselves in trouble with the IRS.

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Speaker 1: I mean somebody.

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Speaker 9: Owes back, whether somebody owes back taxes, is facing an

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Speaker 9: audit needs expert guidance just to get their finances in

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Speaker 9: order as well. We've stepped in and we've helped cases

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Speaker 9: like that. We've also represented high profile clients and high

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Speaker 9: profile businesses. But really just at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: our goal remains the same with each individual and each

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Speaker 9: individual business. We just want to protect people from the

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Speaker 9: IRS overreach that we've seen for the past four years

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Speaker 9: under the Biden Harris administration, and also just through financial

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Speaker 9: hardship as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do some counseling here, shall we. What advice

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Speaker 2: would you give as someone who is struggling with tax

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Speaker 2: that or is just trying to ignore it, pretending it's

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Speaker 2: not there. Oh, you know, if I just ignore, it'll

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Speaker 2: go away. The letters will stop coming. Now, Oh they won't.

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Speaker 2: What's your advice?

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Speaker 9: No, I agree, Steve, That's exactly what I was going

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Speaker 9: to say. Don't ignore the problem. You know, the worst

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Speaker 9: thing that you can do is avoid those IRS letters,

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Speaker 9: like you said, because the penalties and interest can stack

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Speaker 9: up quickly. I know that it may seem like you

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Speaker 9: can avoid it now that we have new leadership. That's

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Speaker 9: like focusing way more or less on regulations, especially with

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Speaker 9: the IRS giving the hiring freeze and laying off a

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Speaker 9: bunch of IRS agents as well. But really the worst

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Speaker 9: thing you can do is avoid it. I would just

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Speaker 9: take action immediately, even if that means filing early. The IRS,

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Speaker 9: you know, isn't going away overnight, but you do have rights.

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Speaker 9: There are legal options available to reduce or even eliminate

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Speaker 9: your tax set. And that's really where we come in

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Speaker 9: at Tax Network USA. Our team fights to negotiate these

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Speaker 9: settlements to stop wage garnishments and lift bank levies, you know,

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Speaker 9: really often reducing what people owe significantly.

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Speaker 1: But timing is everything.

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Speaker 9: Like you said, it's ramping up come April, So the

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Speaker 9: sooner you reach out, the better the outcome.

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Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, Then how long does the process

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Speaker 2: take from people getting involved and then what can they

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Speaker 2: do to get started? Give me and give me one example. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: successful mediation, go.

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Speaker 9: Ahead, Yeah, I mean, I think it just depends on

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Speaker 9: the complexity of your case. Some issues like penalty abase

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Speaker 9: abatement or setting up an installment agreement that can be

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Speaker 9: resolved in a matter of weeks for US, but really

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Speaker 9: more complicated cases such as offers and compromise settlements or

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Speaker 9: IRS appeals that can take those can take several weeks

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Speaker 9: to a month, just depending on the government.

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Speaker 1: Processing times with that.

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Speaker 9: However, you know, really from the moment we step in,

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Speaker 9: we handle all communication with the IRS. Like I said,

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Speaker 9: but we've helped individuals six figure tax debts for just

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Speaker 9: a fraction of what they owed. When recent case actually

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Speaker 9: involved a business owner who was drafting in three hundred

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Speaker 9: thousand dollars worth of tax debt due to payroll issues

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Speaker 9: that they didn't even know that they had. The IRS

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Speaker 9: was on the verge of shutting down his company. Our

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Speaker 9: team negotiated and offering compromise and he ended up settling

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Speaker 9: for just over twenty thousand dollars. We had another case

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Speaker 9: involving a single mom who had her wages garnish over

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Speaker 9: at tax bill she.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even know that she had.

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Speaker 9: As well, we stepped in, we got the garnishment release,

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Speaker 9: we negotiated a fair resolution with the IRS on her behalfs.

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Speaker 9: So really every case is different, Steve, But really just

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Speaker 9: the key is knowing the system, knowing the hire s

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Speaker 9: events like we do in fighting for every single legal

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Speaker 9: advantage that you have.

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Speaker 2: Cameron, thank you so much for being here as always,

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Speaker 2: and if this sounds like something you need to take

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Speaker 2: care of, don't wait. Go to TNUSA dot com t

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Speaker 2: n USA dot com, or you can call one eight

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Speaker 2: hundred nine zero five eight thousand Cameron Kinzie. Always a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to talk to you, my friend. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being here.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Again t NUSA dot com or called one eight hundred

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Speaker 2: nine zero five eight thousand one. We come back. Stephen

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Speaker 2: Miller was taking questions. We'll see if we can catch

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Speaker 2: up with him outside the White House in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Go back the White House.

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Speaker 2: Deputy chief of Staff, the always colorful, always interesting Stephen

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Speaker 2: Miller taking questions outside the White House.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 10: I know you've said that everyone who was deported was

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Speaker 10: you're a gang member or island from earliest Tennis rulans.

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Speaker 10: But we've heard of at least one man who has

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Speaker 10: no criminal records dur in the US support of importation orders,

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Speaker 10: and he.

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Speaker 2: Had no clotle record in Venezuela either, So why do

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Speaker 2: you think.

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Speaker 8: Someone like that.

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Speaker 1: She said, sorry, I confused by that question.

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Speaker 11: Is it your position that a member of trained Herilagua

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Speaker 11: who is in our United States illegally should be allowed

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Speaker 11: to commit crimes oliminously It's still such time as that

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Speaker 11: individual is incarcerated, that it should be opening season on Americans.

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Speaker 1: The tdas come in.

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Speaker 11: It's like ice is coming into your country, girl, Kainda

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Speaker 11: coming into your country, and that you let them stay here.

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Speaker 11: Kesh and release Kesher release, Kesh release and then eventually

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Speaker 11: only after they've served some prison time in America, if

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Speaker 11: they get sent out.

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Speaker 1: Our jobs.

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Speaker 11: Send the terrorsts out before anyone else gets rapped their

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Speaker 11: murder others.

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Speaker 1: Outside the White House last night.

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Speaker 10: Featured Palestinian's flags, but also I saw Hamas flags flying

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Speaker 10: outside the White House. Does this administration believe that the

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Speaker 10: flying of these flags could be a national security rest

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Speaker 10: outside of the White House?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'll refree the question to just say that the.

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Speaker 1: Administration contage to.

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Speaker 11: Think of you that any foreign nationals who are of

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Speaker 11: visiting our country are prohibitive from supporting of any designated

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Speaker 11: terrorist organization such as a months any.

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Speaker 12: Of the questions, is President Trump still cooling for the

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Speaker 12: impeachments by Doc Posy in this case despite once the

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Speaker 12: chief Justice Police cityst Of course, the President stands by

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Speaker 12: his comments absolutely, as do we all, as is the

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Speaker 12: entire administration.

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Speaker 11: You cannot have a democracy where single individual district court

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Speaker 11: judges can assume the full total powers that can and

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Speaker 11: or in chief even on the Supreme Court, it takes

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Speaker 11: an agreement of five Supreme Court justices to change.

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Speaker 1: A federal policy.

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Speaker 11: Five a single district court judge out of seven hundred

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Speaker 11: cannot set policy for the entire nation, let alone on

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Speaker 11: national security.

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Speaker 1: Of public safety issues. The President has been clear that

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Speaker 1: he is in.

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Speaker 11: His tremendous respect for Justice Roberts and believe this is

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Speaker 11: essential to Supreme Court cracked down and stopped this assault

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Speaker 11: in our democracy from these radical rogue judges that are

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Speaker 11: re surping the powers of the presidency and laying waste

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Speaker 11: to our entire const social system.

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Speaker 1: Less question loving destroyed. Can you replain more of the

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Speaker 1: issue of teslas.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the President strongly condemns left wing domestic terrorism in

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Speaker 11: the clearest and most forceful terms. We possibly can't guess

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Speaker 11: the discuss.

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Speaker 10: I think what she was trying to say was that

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Speaker 10: not arguing that there is even a members on the plane,

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Speaker 10: but there are other people. Is there going to be

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Speaker 10: other evidence?

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Speaker 11: I mean all they're all trained air wog. And again

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Speaker 11: let me let me give a concrete.

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Speaker 2: Example of this to illustrate the principle.

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Speaker 11: Let's say that you have a family with being a

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Speaker 11: neighborhood next to them, next to the trained deerog with

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Speaker 11: game comport, who has the document of the popula mission

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Speaker 11: are sent here by a host silver jaime and is

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Speaker 11: the most violent, ruthless and criminal terrorist organization in the

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Speaker 11: Western hemisphere. So do our counters terrorism officers the rest

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Speaker 11: of them removed the terrorist or do we say believe

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Speaker 11: you there you can rape and murder the people next

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Speaker 11: to you, and then after you rape and murder them,

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Speaker 11: and then only then we remove you. We're not gonna

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Speaker 11: let anyone get raped, to let anyone get murdered by

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Speaker 11: terrorists there.

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Speaker 1: This is not a ruling or jump because they stay.

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Speaker 1: It's all the record has to stay.

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Speaker 2: And I really appreciate it. I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: the American people appreciate as well. As Stephen Miller makes

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Speaker 2: his way back to his office wherever he's going, what

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Speaker 2: a lot of people appreciate about this administration is that

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Speaker 2: they see the Boss Donald Trump out there. He takes

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Speaker 2: questions all the time. Big long interview last night on

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Speaker 2: Fox with Laura Ingram, just another day, and another long

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Speaker 2: interview Cheryl Atkinson the day before that. He takes questions

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Speaker 2: and his people take questions and they answer important question.

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Speaker 1: But what's going on with this?

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Speaker 2: And they are so good at deflecting the garbage questions.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to deal with that. Steven Miller always

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Speaker 2: fascinating to say the least. Really appreciate you spending this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday with us here on Milla America's Voice.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciate you being here. Make sure you.

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Speaker 2: today and I'll see you tomorrow for America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 1: Have a great afternoon.