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Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show wherever you download podcasts. Welcome. In this hour

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Speaker 1: of the show, John Middlcoff will join us as we'll

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Speaker 1: ask him not just about the NFL, but about the

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Speaker 1: news that Arch Banning is officially returning to Texas next year,

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Speaker 1: which it was part of the plan. We did discuss

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Speaker 1: it in the preseason, we did discuss it in the summer,

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Speaker 1: and it is part of what the Mannings have always done,

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Speaker 1: and based upon the unevenness of some of his performances,

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Speaker 1: it does make sense. But it also makes it so

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Speaker 1: there's one less big name on that draft board for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming NFL Draft before we get to the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft and teams that will need a quarterback, like maybe

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They took down the Miami Dolphins last night.

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are on the playoffs. Dolphins were down twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to three. Game was essentially over, super slow start for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The offense was not good against the Steelers defense,

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Speaker 1: which is mid as the kid. Do the kids still

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Speaker 1: say mid? I don't know. It feels like once I

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Speaker 2: Seems like it's been replaced by six to seven.

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Speaker 3: That's so mid.

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Speaker 1: This is me and the YouTube channel. I'm doing the

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Speaker 1: six to seven thing, which again is like a throwaway

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Speaker 1: line from a rap song, but it's unbelievable. Tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: we play you see Santa Barbara at the Cress Events center.

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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing once we when you get to sixty seven,

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Speaker 4: That just can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I want to take this moment to recognize something

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Speaker 1: that is amazing, Right, Jason and I both search for

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Speaker 1: things that are interesting. This is something that's amazing. You

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Speaker 1: ready for it. Here's what it is. Pittsburgh Steelers are

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Speaker 1: probably gonna finish above five hundred again. And like this

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Speaker 1: is the Mike Tomlin thing. It doesn't matter how average

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Speaker 1: they look. And again I understand that when you're eight

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Speaker 1: never finished below five hundred, right, never finished below five hundred,

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Speaker 1: And now here they are. They're at eight and six.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Ravens on the road, they beat the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins at home. They have the Lions on the road

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Speaker 1: being out of the question. And yet does anybody think

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Speaker 1: good last night, But are they really good? Not? Really?

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Speaker 1: It's there is something amazing about not ever losing your team.

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Speaker 1: And by losing your team, I mean, they just won't

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the division game is the most important game, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing Pittsburgh's resilience in any way. But does

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Speaker 1: telling you that they're not a great football team. Well,

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Speaker 5: But on the AFC North, I don't think that there's

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Speaker 5: this was a Steelers team that was for real. I'm

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Speaker 5: nice story, but I just don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have an honest Doug moment. You

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Speaker 1: ready for it?

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm?

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Speaker 1: I forgot the Texans were an AFC South.

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Speaker 1: I just I always think of like, well, the Jaguar,

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Speaker 5: The Patriots game that the Steelers won, a twenty one

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Speaker 5: So if maybe New England only turns it over three times,

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Speaker 5: it's a Patriots victory. So to your point of, yeah,

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Speaker 5: they're not beating teams that are better than them, they're

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Speaker 5: beating teams that aren't better than them.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing that the Mike Tomlin thing and everybody

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Speaker 1: Steelers need a fresh start, just because.

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Speaker 7: I said that, you know, there's a time for like maybe.

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Speaker 7: That that's just saying that. I think, you know, coach Tomlin,

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Speaker 7: if he wants to move on, he has every right

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Speaker 7: when that time comes. Whenever that is. Maybe he wants

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. He played tight end before he played quarterback.

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Speaker 1: next ten years, hey, let's do it right Ben, Ben.

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Speaker 1: she said, like you could Ben could have just gone like, look,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins are crummy. Great, we beat the Dolphins. That

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be the nine and eight every year or ten

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Speaker 1: and seven shouldn't be the standard of the Steelers. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to win super bowls here, okay, and I won

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Speaker 1: one every year. We came in trying to win a

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it in the podcast, me and

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Speaker 1: Jay stew because you know, Cam Newton, he wants to

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Speaker 1: be like, hey, if you want to be a black

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Speaker 1: subject matter he talks about oftentimes more podcasts and first

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Speaker 1: take are more clownish than serious. Not that you have

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Speaker 1: to be serious, but it's not in the football analysis

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Speaker 1: former Super Bowl champion quarterback, longtime Pittsburgh Steeler, and you

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Speaker 1: offer up a strong take, You're either wrong or you

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jason stewartt the best part about what he said

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Speaker 4: Well, Tuesday, this is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 2: This is a story that hasn't gotten any coverage. It

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Speaker 2: You know me right, I'm less interested in what happens

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Speaker 5: And I agree with Jason. I just don't think that

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Speaker 5: strength of schedule entering this season for them, But we

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Speaker 5: just aren't having conversations about the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Sam.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a buyer's remorse in there?

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Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 6: I had that. I can.

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Speaker 5: I can tell what it is, and it's actually an

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Speaker 5: apology to one Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, let's do this, yeah, the right way, all right.

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Speaker 4: But there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember if it was Bill Clinton or George

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Speaker 5: Bush or Roger Clemens or Raphael Paul Merrow whoever said misremembered, because.

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Speaker 1: I know no, that was that was Andy peennittt.

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Speaker 6: Independent Andy Pettitt. There, it was Andy Pettitt said, I did.

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Speaker 2: Say something, though Clemens is known for something.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Clemens said that Andy Pennett misremembered. That's it.

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Speaker 5: I miss remembered the Michah Parson's play. Doug, you are

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent correct. It was a non contact injury

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Speaker 5: yesterday or on Sunday on grass. For some reason, I

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Speaker 5: thought that Michaeh. Parsons was engaged and he was not.

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Speaker 5: And so my apologies to you. But for some reason,

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Speaker 5: I was sure as anything that it was on an

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Speaker 5: engagement and it was not. And so Doug, I had

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Speaker 5: remorse over that, and uh, essentially an apology for for

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Speaker 5: your correct assessment that I said was incorrect.

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Speaker 1: Apology remembers, but there was let me tell you, let

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Speaker 1: me how big A tell you.

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Speaker 2: I think he misremember.

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Speaker 1: But what I am, I like, I like agree with,

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Speaker 1: Like maybe I was wrong, Like I don't know, Dan knows.

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Speaker 1: Dan pays way more attention than I do. Like I

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Speaker 1: was at a party with a bunch of people watching

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Speaker 1: the game and then I said it, and I was like, maybe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw I got home last night.

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Speaker 1: That's my path. And how much you're right more often

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Speaker 1: than I am.

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Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate that, but I was dead wrong.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I, I know we talked about it, Okay, but

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Speaker 1: I know we talked about it. Bo I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it deserves a an apology. Is Brian Flores.

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, he was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons he lost his job, none

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Speaker 1: of which are because he's black. I'm sorry, there's just

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Speaker 1: not the whole the front office that said us or

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Speaker 1: him was all black too, so that it just didn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. But reportedly the big thing was that

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Speaker 1: he didn't think to a hat it. He got to

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Speaker 1: a stunk, right, And when the general manager squares by

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and the owner sides of the general manager

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Speaker 1: and they ride with that guy. That's why Flora's a

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Speaker 1: big reason that and offensive coaches couldn't work for him

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Speaker 1: or whatever. That's why he's He was out of a

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Speaker 1: out of a job, and now he's a he's in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I just this has been here the whole time, and

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Speaker 1: the Miami thing with putting out videos in practice of

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Speaker 1: him throwing deep balls and trying to go see you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Twitter verse. It's a lot like when dudes lie. You

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Speaker 1: gulays tell when somebody's lying, because they go into super

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Speaker 1: super detail about what really happened, and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now I know you're live. No you don't understand, but

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Speaker 1: abum was Jimmy was sitting over there. I was sitting here,

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Speaker 1: I remember because I was wearing my blue pants and

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Speaker 1: he was wearing his black pants. And then Vinnie was

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Speaker 1: over there like, dude, you're again. The Dolphins trying to

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Speaker 1: tell us that were one hundred percent wrong about the

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Speaker 1: quality of Tua's arm. Like the proof is in the putting.

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Speaker 1: The guy can't play in cold weather and he plays

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Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins who play in the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: It's not working. Additionally, he's immobile, he's already been hurt.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna tell you, like he seems like a

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Speaker 1: really nice dude. That's the worst contract in the NFL

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Speaker 1: because if they cut him, it's ninety nine million dollars

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Speaker 1: in dead cap money. He's already guaranteed fifty four million

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Speaker 1: dollars since March for next year salary. That's and this

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Speaker 1: is this is what it is. Right, do you win

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Speaker 1: six every year? Looks the same for them? They win

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Speaker 1: six seven games, And I know that they had some

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Speaker 1: character issues. And when Tyreek Hill was gone, it made

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Speaker 1: them better. When Jalen Ramsey was gone, it made them better.

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Speaker 1: But what happens with those hardcore dudes is when you

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Speaker 1: can't do it, they call you out for not being

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Speaker 1: able to do it. And I'm sure that's part of it. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's Tyreek Hill? Or is it Tyreek Hill? Play with

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Speaker 1: a guy who just doesn't have a good enough hard Dan,

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Speaker 1: did you have one more?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Doug grow faster's the hot one. Someone's on the

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Speaker 2: hot line. It's uh Deshaun Watson's contract. Take an issue

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Speaker 2: with you calling Tua's contract the worst in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, but uh, maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: sneaky bad contract. Can I go sneaky bad.

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Speaker 2: Worst contract given to a person born in Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: There we go? Or worse contract of somebody who's not

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Speaker 1: a complete perfect Is that better?

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Speaker 6: That's fair?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: And then and then here here's the last one. Tuesday

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Speaker 1: morning quarterback in the afternoon. I just want to celebrate

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Speaker 1: like this is I've been doing this a long time.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a time when the Chargers won more

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Speaker 1: games that they had opportunities to lose that they usually

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Speaker 1: give away. And it's pretty awesome to watch because you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there and the old Charger fan in you and

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Speaker 1: I know this was you, Jason Stewart, the old Charger

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Speaker 1: fan is like, we're gonna find a way to lose

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Speaker 1: this game, and they found a way to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Granted it's Carter Minshew, he didn't have an arm. Chiefs

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Speaker 1: something very good, but they find a way. They abstlually

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Speaker 1: find a way. And what's interesting about starting with the

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Speaker 1: Titans as you did, Jason Stewart is I've often thought

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Speaker 1: that up until they started Charging and became kind of

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Speaker 1: the laughing stock in the NFL. The Chargers were like

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Speaker 1: the least discussed team in the NFL. I just worked, true,

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Speaker 1: and that is Tuesday minuting quarterback in the afternoon. Well, Tuesday, Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Here you have it, your Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Coming out of actually a show coming out. I'll go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Jay stew I'm.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, Uh, did we leave Sam out? Did you have something? Sam?

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Speaker 8: Because it is the holiday season, I was going to

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Speaker 8: bequeath or leave my Tuesday morning quarterback option to Doug

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Speaker 8: or Dan, who sounded like they had more than one item.

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Speaker 8: I did want to just say good morning. We were

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Speaker 8: talking about Hawaii. Good morning Hawaii. It is ten sixteen

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Speaker 8: on the island in island time. So if anybody didn't

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Speaker 8: want to get to anything later in the show on

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Speaker 8: my behalf, it's like a it's it's a rain check

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Speaker 8: for your holiday season.

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Speaker 6: Give it.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing national sports radio since two thousand and three, right,

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Speaker 1: so twenty two years, and it's kind of crazy that

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Speaker 1: Lebron James still playing basketball, right, yes, right? I mean

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Speaker 1: think about that, like that's that's a long time doing

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Speaker 1: national sports radio, even longer time to play, right. And

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Speaker 1: then I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers and how long

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Speaker 1: he's played him, Like, man, it's really remarkable how many

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Speaker 1: Monday night football games you think you've seen Aaron Rodgers play.

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Speaker 1: He's played twenty one years in the NFL. Twelve years.

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Speaker 6: So do you have the number?

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Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, okay, no, again, this is not a

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Speaker 1: I researched it got yeah, whatever, none of that. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess again. I'm just gonna guess here. So he

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Speaker 1: got hurt with the Jets on Monday Night Football, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think there was probably one last year, so

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Speaker 1: you gotta guess there's like one to two a year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing it's like thirty times. Plus you have

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Speaker 1: some Thanksgiving games which are not Monday Night Football, but

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Speaker 1: they're the standalone variety. It feels like my entire adult life,

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Speaker 1: I've been watching Aaron Rodgers throw football. That's really my.

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Speaker 5: P Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers was probably throwing the football

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Speaker 5: on Monday Night Football when Monday Night Football was king.

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Speaker 5: Like I can't remember the exact year that it changed

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Speaker 5: over on the where then Sunday Night Football was getting

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Speaker 5: all of the good games.

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Speaker 6: But he probably was a part of the that era.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, was it six or seven. I was

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Speaker 1: at ESPN at the time. Mark Shapiro was our boss.

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Speaker 1: Mark Shapiro now is second in charge of what what

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Speaker 1: is it? They've changed the name of the Ari Golds Agency,

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Speaker 1: what was it? Uh?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, they own you know, WWE, and they owned w

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Speaker 1: UH and they own they own everything. Anyway, Mark s

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Speaker 1: Biro is our boss and I remember him saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we got a hold on of Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football and we're probably gonna lose Sunday Night Football. They

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Speaker 1: lost Sunday Night Football and everything changed after that, everything changed.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go O seven buyer again.

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Speaker 1: This is only a guess because I remember it might

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Speaker 1: have been O six. It was very early on AM.

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Speaker 1: I run at the ESPN, which started.

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Speaker 5: Oh three, I just looked. I think it's two thousand

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Speaker 5: and six. I think, I think that's what I'm what

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing here. So yeah, Sunday Night Football on NBC

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Speaker 5: began airing on August sixth, two thousand and six, with

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So and and for people who forget, like NBC

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Speaker 1: lost the NFL, wasn't in the NFL. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of a nothing. And now NBC is like backpack, you know,

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Speaker 1: they got NBA now the college football and and of

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Speaker 1: course they have a football Night in America. But I

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Speaker 1: just I was watching last night and I was getting

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Speaker 1: a little nostalgic, like, damn, I've seen Aaron Rodgers play

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Speaker 1: a lot of football, a lot, a lot, a lot crazy,

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Speaker 1: and still, like you said, I thought you nailed it.

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Speaker 1: They're just he has He's not great anymore, but he

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Speaker 1: is great in moments and you're like, no one throws it.

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Speaker 1: He's just such a unique style to playing the position.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody before and nobody since he started playing that

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Speaker 1: looks or throws like him. Nobody imitates that. But ye,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. It's fun to wat.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's very safe to say

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Speaker 5: that the Steelers would not be in this spot without

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers this year. And they're about to win the

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Speaker 5: division like they can lose them.

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Speaker 1: That part's crazy part that they're gonna win, and it's

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Speaker 1: not they're gonna win the division. They're gonna win the AFC North,

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Speaker 1: which normally when you go AF is like whoa stuck

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Speaker 1: It's on the Volume podcast network. John, I'm watching last night.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm still watching it. In Rodgers to

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Speaker 1: play football. Even more surprising is the Steelers, who I've

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Speaker 1: watched all year long, are in prime position to win

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Speaker 1: the AFC North. How did this happen?

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Speaker 10: Well, Burrow missed the majority of the year, so I

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Speaker 10: mean that cost him a ton of games. The raven

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Speaker 10: start was just atrocious, and they've kind of been all

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Speaker 10: over the map till they kind of showed some signs

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Speaker 10: of life last week. And the Steelers started fast. So

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Speaker 10: you get a four and one start, you get Burrow disappearing,

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Speaker 10: and what were the Ravens won and five if I

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Speaker 10: remember correctly, So you gave yourself a little buffer because,

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Speaker 10: let's face it, up until the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 10: the Steelers were leaking serious oil, right, I mean, they

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Speaker 10: had lost kind of games playing good teams, and it

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Speaker 10: does feel like they got their mojo back a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Obviously the Ravens game was huge, but even last night,

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Speaker 10: you know, to of you know his numbers if you

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Speaker 10: if you didn't watch the game, he's looking at the

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Speaker 10: box score, you're like, oh, pretty good game, which obviously

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Speaker 10: wasn't the case. But the Miami Dolphins defense for the

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Speaker 10: first I would say ninety percent of the first half

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Speaker 10: was playing pretty good, and then they have that long

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Speaker 10: drive at the end of the first half. Score touchdown,

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Speaker 10: score a touchdown, right and you know, start the second half,

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Speaker 10: and let's be real, you're up fourteen to fourteen to

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Speaker 10: three in that weather that was freezing cold. It felt

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Speaker 10: like the game was over. And then obviously you get

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Speaker 10: a couple more scores, but once they had the fourteen

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Speaker 10: to three lead, it just didn't feel like Miami, unless

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Speaker 10: they busted some long runs, was gonna be able to score.

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Speaker 10: And listen, you know, Aaron I've been saying forever. I

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Speaker 10: bet if you've got Dan Marino right now, just had

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Speaker 10: him throw a ten yard outrout. It looks great. His

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Speaker 10: arm looks really good. He's obviously really smart. You know,

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Speaker 10: they have some limitations on offense because the personnel, But

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Speaker 10: if DK's going to make some big plays, I mean,

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Speaker 10: Darnel Washington's monster. I mean, he's probably I mean, if

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Speaker 10: I was him, I would try to become like a

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Speaker 10: hybrid right tackle tight end because the tackles make a

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Speaker 10: little bit more. But he probably likes catching touchdowns and

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Speaker 10: making plays. And then defensively, you just got to hope

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Speaker 10: that dry needling with TJ Watt, which I've never been

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Speaker 10: dry needled. It sounds pretty painful. But hopefully he's okay,

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Speaker 10: and you know they can win the division. I mean,

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Speaker 10: if there's a chance this week, right if and now

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Speaker 10: they got a tough game going to Detroit on a

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Speaker 10: short week, but if the Patriots take down the Ravens

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Speaker 10: and they win, I mean, this thing could get away

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Speaker 10: from the Ravens fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, plus, the Ravens gotta come to their play.

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Speaker 1: They have two winnable games. How about this one? So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard Dan Buyer's update, but

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Speaker 1: McDaniel said all options are on the table at quarterback

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Speaker 1: March fourteenth of this year to his contract for next

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Speaker 1: year became fully guaranteed. That's fifty four million dollars. Jeez,

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Speaker 1: what do you do?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I mean my take last night was I think

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Speaker 10: you got to cut him because at this point in time,

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's progressed. It's crazy. I mean we could

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Speaker 10: have nitpicked him a couple of years ago, but he

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Speaker 10: was a solid player. I mean, it feels like this

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Speaker 10: year as the year went out on, they started winning

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Speaker 10: games because they stopped having him passed. And then I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's not even debatable. I mean he can't pass in

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Speaker 10: the COLT, which listen, but he's not alone. A lot

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Speaker 10: of players can't, right, and a lot of people you know,

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Speaker 10: he's a Wan guy played in the South. Now he's

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Speaker 10: in Miami. Like you just it's tough, but like, you

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Speaker 10: can't function as a quarterback and win important games if

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Speaker 10: you can't play in the COLT, especially in that conference.

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Speaker 10: I mean look at their division, Buffalo, DW, England and

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Speaker 10: New York. I mean there's no avoiding it. So I

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Speaker 10: just think I would have the mindset in the offseason

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Speaker 10: because I think it's pretty difficult to trade him. Now,

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Speaker 10: maybe you could eat something money.

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Speaker 1: In dead cap money next year, Yeah, I four million guaranteed.

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Speaker 10: I think you think about almost doing it. But they're

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Speaker 10: gonna have a new GM. I mean the Sean Paytonside

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Speaker 10: moved with Russell Wilson and just eating it. And I

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Speaker 10: think it gets back to you and I were talking

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Speaker 10: then it made no sense when they extended him like

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Speaker 10: I didn't. Kyler Murray Won made even less. But Kyler

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Speaker 10: is a more physically gifted player than Tua. I just

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Speaker 10: never understood the to a contract. I just been and

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Speaker 10: we've seen in recent memory, right, the last couple of years,

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Speaker 10: the Raiders made a tough decision with Carr, with Josh McDaniels,

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Speaker 10: like they kind of knew after last offseason, like you

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Speaker 10: might want to pivot, and they still stood strong. So

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Speaker 10: you could argue they made this bad and now they

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Speaker 10: got to lay in it.

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Speaker 1: What's amazing about it is? And look, I don't make

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Speaker 1: no one makes all great calls, and I don't purport

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Speaker 1: myself to be a football analyst, but the guys can

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Speaker 1: tell you, and you know, I you know, I've never

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Speaker 1: been a believer into his arm. And remember the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: I think it was year two in the preseason, they

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Speaker 1: kept throwing out their footage of him throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: along to Tyreek Hill. I think when they got him whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, and as if to go like no, no, really,

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Speaker 1: he's got a great arm, and he like he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I remember going to that Charger game, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: three four years ago at SOFI when who was it

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Speaker 1: who made the comments guys on Fox about it about

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Speaker 1: about being a Toua guy, not being a Herbert guy.

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Speaker 1: And if you went to that game, oh was Acho, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Emanuacho made comments about Justin Herbert being a

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Speaker 1: social media quarterback and he's not that good to his

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Speaker 1: the and if you went I went to that game,

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Speaker 1: it was night and day. Like one guy looked like

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Speaker 1: a big time quarterback, the other guy looked like a

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Speaker 1: backup and he just didn't have the arm for it.

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Speaker 1: Indoors the last.

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Speaker 10: Two look in the last two weeks and the guy's

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Speaker 10: got a broken hands. He's playing, you know, physical defenses.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Herbert the last couple of weeks, like anyone

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Speaker 10: with a brain knew how talented he is, but you

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Speaker 10: go up a different level in sports and specifically football,

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Speaker 10: when it's like this guy's one of the toughest guys

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Speaker 10: in the league. I think the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 10: I mean, and we know his coach is crazy when

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Speaker 10: it comes to toughness in the intangibles, Like I think

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Speaker 10: he kind of became like legendary status within that organization.

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Speaker 10: I mean, let's Philip fell off a cliff at the end,

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Speaker 10: physically couldn't move in his arm, but no one ever questioned.

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Speaker 10: I mean, look at him a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 10: like Rivers toughness. You know, players did have been around him,

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Speaker 10: coaches that they I mean, look at Shange. Psyche loves

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Speaker 10: the guy because he's just a tough dude pervert to

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Speaker 10: me is I mean he's a throwback right the eighties, nineties,

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Speaker 10: two thousands, and you have that physical gifts, but I

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Speaker 10: mean he's him and the Jim Harbaugh companies of the franchise,

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Speaker 10: they have no business s git a ten win team

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Speaker 10: right now with their injuries?

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Speaker 1: Do they? Yeah? None? None? I you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: this is what they do, how they try and get

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Speaker 1: out of this contract or what they try and do

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Speaker 1: is I don't know, it's gonna be really interesting. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know enough about cap manipulation. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how you get out of nine to

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars in the dead cap money. Oh stug

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Speaker 1: outleb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff to get to with John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Three and Out is U is his podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Volume Podcast Network. Let's go back to Sunday now,

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Speaker 1: as the Kansas Chiefs are no longer a playoff threat,

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Speaker 1: this is the team that has dominated the AFC, so

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Speaker 1: rebuild versus reload? My thought on The difference in the

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Speaker 1: two is not just in semantics, it's in this John.

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Speaker 1: A reload is you go through the draft. You know

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Speaker 1: that the first year it's going to be a little wonky,

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Speaker 1: but you're building for the long term. The reload, that's

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Speaker 1: the rebuild. The reload is when you go to free

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Speaker 1: agency and you try and fill the holes and try

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Speaker 1: and win. Win. Now, is this which is the smarter

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Speaker 1: thing to do? Considering mahomes is coming out the ACL,

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Speaker 1: considering Andy Reid's age, considering what their team.

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Speaker 10: Looks like, Well, I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 10: hybrid play for the what looks face?

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Speaker 1: Did?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 10: Now, they have a lot of pride. I mean, they're

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Speaker 10: a legendary run. They're better off losing these last three games, right,

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Speaker 10: And it might just happen with Gardner Minshew playing quarterback

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Speaker 10: and you know coach Read, you know he's a made

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Speaker 10: man like we kind of can manipulate it a little bit.

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Speaker 10: So there's a big difference. They've drafted basically thirtieth or

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Speaker 10: thirty first or thirty second the last several years.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: Well, now all of a sudden, you're drafting twelfth or

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Speaker 10: four team and that's in every round. So let's say

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Speaker 10: your first four picks, you could get maybe three long

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Speaker 10: term starters and maybe one high end guy, so you

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Speaker 10: can change your franchise fast. And the other thing is

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Speaker 10: like deals in the room is Kelsey, like he's we

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Speaker 10: all thought he was going to retire coming into the season.

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Speaker 10: Now it probably feels inevitable, right, And I do think

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Speaker 10: the other thing is Chris Jones. Last year, they traded

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Speaker 10: Joe Tooney to the Bears, and coach Reid said after

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Speaker 10: the deal, I think during free agency, like he's one

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Speaker 10: of my favorite players we've ever coached, but in this

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Speaker 10: financial situation, we didn't have a choice. I think Chris

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Speaker 10: Jones is done, and when it comes to I think

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Speaker 10: he's did last year on the case. He's going to

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Speaker 10: be traded this offseason, so I just think they're going

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Speaker 10: to look dramatically different, and it's it could bleed into

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Speaker 10: next year, Like if there's any sort of question with Mahomes,

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Speaker 10: you were one percent not rushing him back, and maybe

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Speaker 10: next year in a weird way, is kind of a

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Speaker 10: throwaway year and you know, going, I don't know, six

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Speaker 10: seven wins again, it's not the worst thing to kind

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Speaker 10: of just kind of get your cap back on track,

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Speaker 10: get my home sealthy, because the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Is, did you did you say six seven six seven

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Speaker 1: wins seg seven?

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Speaker 10: Sorry you're you're you're more in that world around the

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Speaker 10: young people than I than I am. But yeah, I

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Speaker 10: don't know. He's too good of a coach, even if

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Speaker 10: you know he rolled Mer or you out there playing quarterback,

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Speaker 10: like they would never look like the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Right, I know, I know. It's it's a it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting one, right, like, well, he's gonna coach, They're gonna win,

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Speaker 1: but are they gonna win too many games? All right?

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Speaker 1: Real quickly? Can you envision the Packers making a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl run without Micah Parsons and without Tucker Craft, without

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Speaker 1: all the can you can you envision that with the Packers?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I do think super Bowl run is is over.

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Speaker 10: But I you know I did this like most people like,

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Speaker 10: oh they're done. That's not usually how football works, right,

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Speaker 10: They're they're deepense, still pretty good, but they they could

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Speaker 10: win this week, they could win a playoff game. Harder

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Speaker 10: to envision them just rattle off three straight playoff victories

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Speaker 10: and be in the super Bowl. And this is coming

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Speaker 10: from someone that's had a Super Bowl ticket on them

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Speaker 10: to play the Broncos. It was going to be a

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Speaker 10: pretty lucrative Fay out and I felt pretty good about it.

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Speaker 10: But Mike has been pretty awesome for them, and they're

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Speaker 10: just no replacing that. Like the next man up. You

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Speaker 10: can say next man up when it's like a rotational linebacker.

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Speaker 10: You don't say the next man up when it's Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 10: So I do think Matt Lafleur, though you win this week,

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Speaker 10: you know, happily get the defense rolling like those two guys.

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Speaker 10: Happily you want to be a head coach in the

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Speaker 10: NFL L floor, you want an extension like they can

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Speaker 10: still prove a lot like winning a playoff game now,

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Speaker 10: I think like gets them a lot of credit. Where

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Speaker 10: before Mike is injured, what do you think anything less

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Speaker 10: than an NFC championship appearance would have been a disaster. Yees,

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Speaker 10: Now the bar is lowered, But I still think with

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Speaker 10: their talents, they still got a quarterback, they've still got

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Speaker 10: an offensive play call where they got a good defense.

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's inconceivable they win a playoff game.

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Speaker 10: I mean they a couple of years ago they went

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Speaker 10: to Dallas and killed them, and that you could argue

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Speaker 10: this team, assuming Watson's going to be okay, is better

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Speaker 10: than that team.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, their defense is still good, you know, it's not

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Speaker 10: as like it was a lead.

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Speaker 1: The cornerbacks aren't very good, but they're covered up by

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have Michael Parsons being held every

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Speaker 1: time by like three guys. So I want to see

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Speaker 1: what it looks like looks like without him. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what they one. I want to say.

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Speaker 10: It's devastating because also he was he was everything they

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Speaker 10: could have wanted from a speed rusher, and how hard

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Speaker 10: he was playing. Yeah, and he you know, he's not

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Speaker 10: a power guy. He's a speed guy. So it's like

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Speaker 10: you just get you like Mahomes, you got to be

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Speaker 10: very cautious. You can't exact, Well, you gotta have him

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Speaker 10: back for September next year. It's like, well, you paid

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Speaker 10: him one hundred and eighty eight million. You gotta like

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Speaker 10: you might not see him next year till like November.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't think you will. I mean, I suppose

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Speaker 1: it's an LCL, not just an ACL tear. That's why

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Speaker 1: you had the surgery done already. So John Mitlcoff, NFL

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Speaker 1: analyst thing Out podcast host johnny're the best man. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joing this bet up.