1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: What do we even do? What are we even doing? 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Hey? 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Everyone, what are we even doing? The podcast where I 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: sit down with creatives from all fields actors, musicians, writers, comedians, answers, dancers, 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: lest we forget very important and we talk about how 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: they use social media, what their creative process is. We 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: get weird together in a good way. And I want 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: to welcome a very special guest actor, musician, comedian, dancer, dancer. 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, I've seen him dance. 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Thank you dancer. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Yes, you are our very own b John Say. I 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: think I'm pronouncing that correctly social media handle. Please welcome 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: John Early to the podcast, to our vast studio here. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Kyle, you have no idea how exciting this is for me. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: This is such a thrill you are. 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: The creative flow that comes out of you is because 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: you're so present. When I've watched your work, you have 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the ability to stand in front of an audience and 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: you're relaxed and you it's not like you have to 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: wait for the next thing, but you allow the next 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: thing to come and it just keeps coming out like 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: this and you just keep going with it. I mean, 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: it's a tremendous skill thank you. Yeah, I mean it 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: just feels good. Would tell me you tell me how this? 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: How did John Realley start? How did he begin? Was 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: there a moment you said this is what I want 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: to do? 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: You know, I should have that prepared. It's like, no, 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: can talk about it. I'm trying to really think what 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: it was, because I think I do remember this moment 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: of seeing Cherio Terry Oh doing the Spartan cheerleader Charitarian 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: wolf fare yeah yeah, and being in my kitchen on 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: the little kitchen TV and being like uh huh and 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: just really being like, yeah, yes, that's what I wanted. 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: You was full on. Yeah, the SNLS get that they together, Yeah, 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: oh my god. 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: That was just like right to the heart for me. 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: And and that was that was probably it. But you know, 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: both my parents not to just immediately go to the 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: bio and and exploit like the let's go. 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Because I'm curious about your your parents both both Presbyterian ministers. 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Or former former Presbyterian ministers. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Disgrace Man always Presbyterian minister. 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: The only reason I bring it up is because I 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: do think they I did watch them hold a room, 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: stand in front of a room, you know, and like. 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they were teaching moments. I mean, I 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: come from a Presbyterian background. Yeah, yeah, we went to 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: we went to Westminster Presbyterian Church where that was. 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 2: Sorry, my dad was the head pastor at Westminster in National. 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't nearby, was up in Washington State. 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: It's cool how your parents are part of kind of 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: you bring them into your world to your act. Yeah, 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: how is that? How have they responded? 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: They're such good? 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: Have they been supportive? I should just say, yeah, they've 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: been supporting. 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: You, very very supportive, you know, all the way through. 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Even as the stuff I've done has gotten more and 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: more vile, you know, they're they've They've still hang in there, cheered. 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's like it's a it's 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: bizarre with the with the in the special when I 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: put the spotlight on them, that's I'm saying stuff in 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: front of them I would never say, like in person. 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's like I feel totally safe doing 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: it in that environment. And also I know that they 68 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: completely understand the joke, and like if they didn't, if 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: it actually felt like torture, I wouldn't do it, not 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: even out of some like you know righteous place. I 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: just I I don't like you know, I am Presbyterian 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, and I like people 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: to feel comfortable. 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Like my audience, I'm the same way. Yeah, I know 75 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: exactly what you feel when you're on stage to say 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: that is it you? Is it a character? Is it 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a version of you? 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: How do you? 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Because I always feel like I need a kid, a 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a character. Doesn't have to be a 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: big departure, but I. 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Always need something. But over the years it's gotten more 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: and more like me, you know. There the character resembles 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: me more like I used to be. When I first 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: started doing stand up in the eighties, kidding, I was like, 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: there was this it was kind of hostile. There was 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: something a little there was like a hard shell I 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: don't know, and it was like, I don't know, it was. 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: It was a weird time it was and then over 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 2: and then I don't know. As in the past few years, 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: as I was like bringing my special together, I did 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 2: kind of like yield to something inside myself that wanted 93 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: to be a little more generous and a little a 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: little more like again kind of using these like the 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: my pres Baterian tools of like making people feel comfortable 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: and bringing people in and like and not being so alienating. 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I say, to me, it's like the least 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: alienating thing I've ever done. That stand up special available 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: now on HBO Max. I'm sure some people still think 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: it's completely incoherent and confusing and and but but I 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: don't know it's But so the persona that I do now, 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I would say, is I give myself. I think of 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: myself as kind of like a stoned golden retriever and 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: like's it helps me be like kind of like dumb 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: and open. I really try to like kind of work 106 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: through my ideas in a way that hopefully doesn't feel 107 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: like pretentious. My idea is so embarrassing. They're not ideas, yeah, no, no, 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: the barely ideas. 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: No, but there you but you use the space in 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: front of the crowd to sort of, you know, work 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: on them, flesh them out a little bit, feel feel 112 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: where they're taking you. And I just think I've never 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: done stand up and it really it's it's very intimidating. 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: It must be a thrill. The closest that could I 115 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: could imagine is being on stage, you know, where you 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: really yeah yeah, but I think it's you sort of 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: touched on something that I the leading man can not 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: the most interesting. It's not the character stuff. 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and there's actually you know, I mean it's easy 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: to dunk on the leading man and go, oh, you 121 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: have it all. You know, you you're getting paid the most, 122 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: you're your front, you know. But like, but everyone prefers 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: the side, the weird one. Everyone prefers the character actress. 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: You're leading man, trapped in character. 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Body might dream. 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me, tell me, but. 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: My dream is relevant. So I had a dream the 128 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: other night that I was doing an experimental production of Carousel. 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Rogers and Hammerston's one that's a very dark one, 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: and I was the lead. 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, big, yeah. 132 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 133 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: We did that in college as well. 134 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did play. 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: I was of course, you know. It was one of 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: those where we had real singers at my school and 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: they were like, it was power did you go? I 138 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: went to you dub University of Washington, but they had 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: a program, a training program there. We were trying to 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: go out seek our fortune and repertory theaterland. Wow, suddenly 141 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: movies got in the way. So but that's kind of 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: where I was initially headed. Owing to New York and 143 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: I said I'm going to audition. I could sing, and 144 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: I did all edit everything, and then I just went 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: to LA. 146 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: And what was the first thing. I'm sorry, this is 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: me interviewing you. 148 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Ultimately the first sort of real musical thing I did. 149 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Anything goes Oh my god. But I had one line. Look, 150 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: it's Reno Sweeney and her four angels. 151 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: So you were you dancing. 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I was dancing. I was a sailor in the background. 153 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: They were like, you know, that was my deal. And 154 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: here's the story. Was one of the lead actors, the 155 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: guy that went on to play Curly. In fact, you 156 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: talk about to this. They said to me. Every time 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: before i'd go up to do my line, because I 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: delivered it up kind of on the balcony. He down 159 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: below and says, it's seen O'reenie and her four angels. 160 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: It's Senoreenie and her four yeah. Yeah, And I'd be like, no, 161 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: it's not no, it's not no, it's not yeah, oh no, no, 162 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Like this is what I had up again. 163 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I had to work. 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Against this terrible You must have had something similar. You've 165 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: had people of torture. 166 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: There was no hardship. 167 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: No from Nashville to New York. No hardship, lay, there. 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: Was nothing, no obstruction. 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: I just knew you were Like, were you like I 170 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: got to get to New York? 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: Yes? I was. I mean, you're ready when I first 172 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: went to New York, like with my dad? 173 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was that? They just went there for 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: like a. 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: He we had a really sweet trip where we went 176 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: to He took me to New York when I was 177 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: like fourteen? Wait what we saw Beauty in the Beast 178 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: with Tony Braxton? Okay, they had to lower the keys 179 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: of the songs. 180 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Did they have did your parents sort of go I 181 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: think he's headed in this direction, like Kyle not that well. 182 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Were they aware of kind of where 183 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: you were? 184 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, it's really nice. I don't know what makes 185 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: people think that that's a viable path, you know, but 186 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: but I guess I don't know. I was very serious 187 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: about it. I was very obsessed with it. And yeah, 188 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: we're encouraging. 189 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice to hear. My parents were similar. 190 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: They loved me. Right, let's just get that right, that's 191 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: rats rat. But yes, we saw Tony Brexton wool and 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 2: then we saw jackal and Hyde maybe with David Hasselhoff. 193 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Those are my first Broadway shows. 194 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 195 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: And then and we went to SNL. Okay, we went 196 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: to SNL and saw Lucy Lawless hostess. 197 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Okay, wait no, wait wait because special I wasn't fourteen, 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: God no, but that's a tough that's a you know, 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: that's late and that's New York and that's really I mean. 200 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: And I was as an insiders. 201 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: He he, my dad pulled some strings. I don't know what. 202 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: He did something with the lord he you know. Yes, 203 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: I got in as an eleven year old. And and 204 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: actually what happened when I was in, When we were 205 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: in line, this girl came up to me and she 206 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: was probably like eighteen at the time, and she was like, oh, 207 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: it's sixteen, Like sixteen is the cut off. Like she 208 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: was like, he's not going to get in, like this 209 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: is a ranch. She didn't work there. 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: She was just decided to offer her advice. 211 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I started weeping. Yes, and my dad was like, 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: it's so, I have tickets. They know, it's fine, you know, 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: like whatever, but I was so scared. Yeah, I was 214 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: like you heard her, Oh my god, we're never going 215 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: to get in. Yeah, but we got in and it 216 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: was like it was so it was Lucy Lawson. Elliott 217 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: Smith was the musical guest. 218 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh I love Elliott Smith said he was so talented. 219 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: I know, but what a great it was. It was 220 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: so cool and I remember, you know I had that 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: is cool. 222 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's New York, coolest New York. 223 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was. I was in heaven and 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: then you know, and then it was the thing where 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: I was like the sewer smell, like the steam from 226 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: the story like smelled like piss ever and I literally 227 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: was like I was like, I love this. 228 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Want oh you got a candle with that smell? 229 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: Or too or but yeah, that's that. And so I 230 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: was very I had. 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: To you or no you yeah? Yeah, so you go, 232 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and what's the plan? 233 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: Well I went to n YU Okay, yeah, you went 234 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: to TIS right, I went to Tish. Yeah, at the 235 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: Atlantic actual. 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Edition and yeah, and so you audition, you got accepted. Yes, 237 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: So that's how much How big. 238 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: Was the class? Oh my god? Well, what's so crazy 239 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: about n YU is that it's those of you who 240 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: don't know Julie ar Yale, you of you dubbed you dub. 241 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a few twenty people probably yeah, we 242 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: had thirteen I think in the drama department in our class. 243 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: So and then there's the three year program so multiply 245 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, forty people. 246 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah so that's like you have it, you have a. 247 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Right into Yeah, I was close. 248 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Look at that. 249 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I can do math on air, come on. 250 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: But it was it's like, you know that, that's that's 251 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: the ideal environment I think for like a conserviver but NYU, 252 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: it's like within Tish there are seven there were seven 253 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: different studios, and then then each studio had like you know, 254 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: three or four groups of twenty in the freshman class. 255 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: So total in the freshman class of the druma department 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: at Tish it was like seven hundred people. 257 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: That's way too many. 258 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: It was crazy. So it was really easy to get 259 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: kind of lost and to feel a little kind of like, oh, 260 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: this isn't special, I guess, like, but I had incredible 261 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: teachers at Atlantic because Atlantic was I want to go 262 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: to Atlantic because it was like Felicity Huffman and like 263 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Christian Johnston and. 264 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: People are really you could see these people. 265 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: Have Yeah, yeah, I was like obsessed with I saw 266 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: Felicity Huffan some like weird Showtime. They called like out 267 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: of order, and I was like, oh, that's that's acting. 268 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: I was like, how did you? Yeah? What? And then 269 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: and then Christian Johnston I was like, she's a god. 270 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: You know, she was a god to me. And so 271 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: I saw that they had gone there, and you know, 272 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: I was like, that's the one. And it was very serious. Yeah, 273 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, Atlantic is very like serious and kind of 274 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: like learn your lines, bitch, you know, like this isn't 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: a joke. 276 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like this is like work, Yeah, this 277 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: is not love law and order things, yes. 278 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Well they were. It was kind of like it was 279 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: kind of like you're you are going to do law 280 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: and order like you are, like and you need to be, 281 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: and you're they're gonna have you cry. 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a great thing about school, right because 283 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: they do. My school did the same thing. They really 284 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: prepared you for the industry, you know. Yeah, and what 285 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: the expectations were. Yeah, and it was tough. Yeah you're 286 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna cry. You're gonna cry, motherfucker. 287 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: And I and we we had to do like a 288 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: breakdown scene and we do what I can't this is 289 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: so this will show you exactly who I was. Okay, 290 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: in its pretentiousness, it's a little pick me okay, okay, okay, 291 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: dancer in the dark and I but but it's like, 292 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: but this is what's so tragic. I wanted to play 293 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: purek Yes, I was. This is the struggle I always 294 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: had in acting school, is like, I the reason I 295 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: even love acting is from women. You know. That's that's 296 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: why I wanted to act. It's like, that's that's so 297 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: it was very confusing for me to suddenly be in 298 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: a program for three years where like all the roles 299 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: I were expect playing was male. 300 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Obviously, because I'm curious, was it you felt you understood 301 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: that emotional journey that the women go through. Did you 302 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: the relating did you feel just I. 303 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Don't know, it's just it's a kind of mysterious. But 304 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: it's more just that's how I fell in love with acting. 305 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Was like, like I just loved watching women on screen, 306 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: you know, and funny women, and you know what I mean. 307 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: So those are kind of always in a totally impractical way. 308 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: I almost had never considered it, like those were just 309 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: kind of the types of roles I loved, and then 310 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: I got to act. I was like, oops, you know, 311 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: and suddenly I'm playing like the father and rabbit Hole, 312 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: who's like lost his child. 313 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: So what's the move from that? What's the how do 314 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: you move into what you know you love? 315 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, the second I got out of college, the split 316 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: second I graduated, I got some friends together and I 317 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: was like, We're doing Psyco Beach Party Charles Bush, and 318 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm playing chick Lit okay. And it was like I 319 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: was like released, Like I was like, you know, it 320 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: was so and so for those of you who don't know, 321 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: it's like Charles Bush, you know, great playwright who put 322 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: himself in these roles where he would play like theoingen yeah, 323 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: you know. And so I played chick Lit, who's like Gidget, Yes, 324 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: Gidget with multiple personalities. So she's like a surfer girl 325 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: who wants to surf like the boys, you know. And 326 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: I was and I got fully waxed okay. And so 327 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I was on stage in a bikini. 328 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Okay, that's his commitment. Oh my god. 329 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: And I had a wig and everything full full waxing. 330 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: And then you were and I was in heaven. And 331 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: then she has like crazy, like you know, multiple personalities 332 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: and kills people. And so that was like that's exactly 333 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: what I did. It was very kind of. I didn't 334 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: do any sort of weird. 335 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Like no, but I love that you jumped in like 336 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: this is what I need to do. 337 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. From that, what happened was I did that production 338 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: and then this woman came to see the show and 339 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: she was like, I want you to play Juliet. And 340 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: it just kept coming. 341 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: So you can pull the shakes because I'm sure you 342 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: study Shakespeare. It's cool and you're like sure. 343 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: And so what I hopped from Gidget or chick lit 344 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: to Juliet. I was like, oh my god. I was like, 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: I just like kept playing women. How great though, But 346 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: I was bad? You think I was. I think there 347 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: was something totally inspired about that casting choice. And she 348 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: would disagree with me because she's an angel director. And still, Mike, 349 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: where did you do it? We did it in New 350 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: York at like the Actors Theater or something like fifty 351 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: fourth or something. 352 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Because I immediately I flashed onto a Hamlet Ethan a 353 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: movie back we were back in two thousand. Yeah, I 354 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: played Claudius and Diane Venora played Gertrude and she did 355 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: a very famous Hamlet for Joe Papp at the Public Theater. 356 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: We've got We've gone deep down the Rabbitol you think 357 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: anyone else is listening to watch? I don't know we're talking. 358 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: There's also Juliette's mom in the movie of Romeo and Juliet. 359 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh awful. Yeah, yeah, she was Diana going to Off 360 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and Diane. She was in Heat, one of my favorite movies. 361 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: She is unbelievable. She was great, powerful and just so 362 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: what a wonderful actress. But I was thinking she did that, 363 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: was like, why couldn't you Juliet, I'm sorry? It was 364 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: a Romeo bag? What that? What the hell? I played Romeo? 365 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: I played Romeo? 366 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: Yes, can you imagine if we're talking. 367 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: On the window breaks, it is the east and Juliet 368 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: is the sun and John Early is the sun arise 369 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: fast sun and kills. 370 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: What's absolutely devastating one. I don't remember a single goddamn like, 371 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: you're not I amating? That says something something in me 372 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: was like kind of fundamentally cut off and terrified and 373 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: couldn't really do it, and like the fact that I 374 00:17:54,840 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: haven't retained any of that language is says something. 375 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Do you could have? You could have? 376 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't think where I was I 377 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: would read it. I remember getting the part and going 378 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: home and opening it and reading it out loud for 379 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: the first time in total like in total privacy, and 380 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: I was weeping. I couldn't believe I have no relationship 381 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: to Shakespeare. I did it, but like I didn't care, 382 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, I get it now. 383 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: This is like the most beautiful thing I've ever I 384 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: was like, it was so beautiful. And then first rehearsal, 385 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, here we go. I opened and then I'm like, 386 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 2: I was like totally frozen, and I just it was. 387 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: I felt this thing. When there were people around me, 388 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. It was such a feeling. I 389 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: felt like I thought I was going to have like 390 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: a nervous breakdown. 391 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: For a minute, I thought to myself, well, maybe you 392 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: equated Juliette with the idea of the leading man kind 393 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: of boring thing. 394 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Maybe. No, You're exactly right, and this is why you 395 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: should be an analyst. 396 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: That's why I'm a podcast. Yes, yes, we should. Should 397 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: we just go jump in the show girls? 398 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 399 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I know you even waiting all day for this. 400 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's so related. Like, not long after I 401 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: did Romeo and Julia, I made that video or I 402 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: played no. 403 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Me yes, and which is can I say shot for shots? 404 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: It's shot for shot yeah, yeah, yeah, an outfit yeah everything, 405 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: And that was like all hands on deck. I made 406 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: that with my friends. I a wig designer gave me 407 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: like a lace front, did a nomeal full or free? 408 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: Like it's a human hair lace front with. 409 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's production value is is Yeah, it's solid. 410 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 2: My friend made the outfit for me for free, Like 411 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, that was like, you know, you can get 412 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: away with that in your early twenties, like people working 413 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: for free, and then it starts to look it's. 414 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: Probably responded to your passion. 415 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was very I was like, we're gonna 416 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: make a show Girl amazation for no reason. 417 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: It's yeah, but it's amazing. 418 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Showgirls really was my kind of like 419 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: that's when I really I mean, I had some movies 420 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: that were very very important to me as a as 421 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: a kid and made me want to make movies, but 422 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: show Girls was the first movie where I felt like, 423 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, you know, like like whoa Like a 424 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: lot of the movies I loved as a kid were 425 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: very small, kind of unassuming movies and then. 426 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: This was not show that it's not you know, I 427 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: have a love hate with it, but here you speak 428 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, how you how you how it 429 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: motivated you forward? And I love that. That's worth the 430 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: price of admission right there. 431 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Kyle, something was just so explosively funny 432 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: to me, the idea of playing no me and like 433 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: and just with the earnestness, you know, like and just 434 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: really like playing an e you know, like I don't 435 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 2: know that that's always been something I've wanted to do 436 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Yeah, And you know when we my 437 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: friends were these Cooks Central Dance Team where these like 438 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 2: genius like dance comedy troupe thing and and we just 439 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: like rented a studio in Brooklyn and like pulled up 440 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: the clip and we just learned it. We just learned it, 441 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: and like we matched the camera work, and you know, 442 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: we we The guy who directed Drew Tobia, he got 443 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: his his high school theater teacher in Jersey to like 444 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: she her like she did as an assignment for her class, 445 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: like let's make the stage look like the stage and 446 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: show Girls, And so they hung the lights in a 447 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: somewhat similar way as best they could, you know, and 448 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: we just went to Jersey and shot this thing in 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: one day and it was like one day. Yeah, yeah, 450 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: I love that video so much. I don't know it 451 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: like it holds like it the key to like me 452 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: or something that that video. 453 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's beautiful, no, because it's you're fully commit 454 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: there's no winking, you're fully committed. Yeah, you dance up 455 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: a storm, which is amazing. And and the shot for shot, yeah, 456 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: it matches, and I love it when they when you 457 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: do both. We ran both together. I mean there's the 458 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: top and bottom and it is identical down to the 459 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: lip sync. It was like a long term TikTok or 460 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: something long form TikTok. But it was really well done. 461 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I'm very proud of it. 462 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's pretty special. You need to go 463 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: down and do more scenes. 464 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the thing is, like I did make 465 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: a movie recently that like actually came from that impulse 466 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: to just do the full length show girls. You know. 467 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: It's like I've always been like, well in a world 468 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: where I'm for some reason given billions of dollars, you know, 469 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: like where there's a film industry that would do that, yeah, 470 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Like but like and then I was like, well, 471 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: I could do something like that. I could do something 472 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: that's like in essence like that. So I did write 473 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: a movie for myself where I play the lead girl. 474 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: I play in a Maddie yes and like and she. 475 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: It's very different on a plot level. But there is 476 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: a character named zach Is based on your character character 477 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: great with the weird hair he doesn't have. I mean, 478 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: thank god, no one can ever have that hair. 479 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: No. I don't know what I was thinking when I 480 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: had made that choice. 481 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: It was just like genius. 482 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: Well, I kept thinking, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, 483 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: so we're going to hide a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 484 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: dumb idea. I don't know, John, is. 485 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: That your idea? It was so already we're learning there 486 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: is huge there you go, Well that was so yeah. 487 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 2: So I made a movie where I'm like basically like 488 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: I created a character where I could like do that 489 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: thing just like a kind of and we did lots 490 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 2: of like blocking and camera movement where I where it's 491 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: like long shots where it's like we're like overtaking each 492 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: other and like and spinning around each other, you know, 493 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: like me and Kate. It's me Kate plays my best friend. 494 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: She's like the Molly character and show Girls like and 495 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: it's just us kind of like you know, it's like 496 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: it's like overly blocked. There's like too much movement, you know, 497 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: it's like whoa, I love, I love you know. 498 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: And that was like manic. 499 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: Okay, it's so impeccably done show Girls and we kind 500 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: of pulled it off, you know. I would say one 501 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: four hundredth of the budget of show Girls. I'm really 502 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: proud of it. 503 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Yes, it's good. It's this Wait a minute, can I 504 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: see this? 505 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: Is this what I can send you a link? 506 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: Is this was just a tip? 507 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: It was that tip? 508 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's. 509 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: Magnolia is distributing it. 510 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 511 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't know when. 512 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, send me a link. I'd love to see it. 513 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: I know our crew would, if you're if that's. 514 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, I'm sending you a link. I almost sent 515 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: it to you before this, and I was like, calm 516 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: down because I was like, I think you'll appreciate its connection. Yeah. Wait, okay, 517 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: So you came up with the hair. 518 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I came up with the hair, and then 519 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: we go in in the morning and we were shooting 520 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: south like Tahoe there at a at a proper show house, 521 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: you know. And I remember we had to get out 522 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: it by a certain date because Carrot Top was coming 523 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: into perform. No, yes, I'm sorry to do that. I 524 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: know it was. It was crazy anyway, So we go 525 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: in the morning. I go in the morning and I 526 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: see him and my make up. You know, he'd give 527 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: me it. He's he was like, he just said, we're 528 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: going to give you a ten. I was like, okay, okay, yeah, 529 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm in Vegas, I can have it. And then little 530 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: eye Shadow was like sure. He said yeah, yeah, because. 531 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: You know shout and yes it's yeah. 532 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: I was like okay. And then and just if you 533 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: look at it, kind of like he looks made up. 534 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, you have like a like an eminem 535 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: like a candy shell. 536 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah yeah. And I'm like okay, and he was 537 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: just so happy with him. So then I felt bad. 538 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: I said, well, okay, but it's but it's this is 539 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: the thing I love about Paul Verhoven is this like 540 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: he it's like this pornographic American And at that time, 541 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: the ninth like the weird nineties, like ken thing, you know, 542 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: there was like a weird now he was on with 543 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: he was on, He really was tapped into some sort 544 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: of perverse thing. And I feel like the makeup. Your 545 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: makeup is like a perfect. 546 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: Example of that. The thing is my I was, you know, 547 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I would pop in and do a scene and pop 548 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: back out again, and it was I like to ski. 549 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: And it happened to be a really great snow year. 550 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: So I would sneak off and ski all the time 551 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: when I wasn't working, which I wasn't supposed to do 552 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: because you sign a writer and you say you will 553 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: not do any of these dangerous yeah, And I was like, whoop, 554 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: But the snow is so good. I couldn't help it. 555 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: So I just skied and and I would come back 556 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: and I would, you know, I'd watch rehearsal. I said, 557 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: it looks great, you know, that looks like a real show, 558 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing, you know, and then we 559 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: do this. I do my scenes with Elizabeth went fine, 560 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, it's gonna be good. 561 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I. 562 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Saw it and then I was like that's not what 563 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: I expect. 564 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 565 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: Eternity is wonderful. Thank you, yes, thank you, And you 566 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: are wonderful. 567 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: In it, well, thank you, it's special. 568 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: I was really Yeah, I was really because it's a 569 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: we kind of know what's going to come, but it 570 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: keeps shifting. It pulls the rug out from underneath you. 571 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: You knew who she was gonna end up with. I 572 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: had a feeling, and she had to act a kind 573 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: of like metaphysical psychological concept. It's like her working through 574 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: something kind of like metaphysical yes, which is like a 575 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: strange thing to have to act, and like every scene 576 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: she had to be like wait, so I'm dead right. 577 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: I really was very impressed with her ability to hold 578 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 2: that in her head. I agree, And she and the 579 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: movie are kind of trying to bring us back to 580 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: a kind of like, you know, an intelligent, warm comedy, 581 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: thoughtful like like in the you know Peggy Suk Got 582 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: Married or you know. 583 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: These that's a little bit of a throwback. 584 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, and she I think she 585 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: just does it with such grace and yeah, I mean, 586 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, she reminds me like her like crying in 587 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: the movie reminds me like Holly Hunter and broadcast news 588 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: or something, you know, like the weeping, and it feels 589 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: both like totally real and also it's funny. Yes, it's 590 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: it's employd comedically, but it's like she's playing it totally real. 591 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: And you know, your relationship with the divine is just 592 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's really did you have you worked together before? 593 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Did you just meet and you were like, hey, let's 594 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: here we go. 595 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: No, I met her on set. She is so good 596 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: and I think we're good contrast because. 597 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: She is so easy. 598 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: She like can't fake a moment. You know, it's just 599 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: like so effortless. It's just she's just in like a 600 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: kind of flow state. And then I'd like, ha, I'm. 601 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: Like, people should watch this because the visuals, John, your 602 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: visuals are fantastic. You know what it is. You know, 603 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: it's it's letting me know, it's giving me further back, 604 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: it's giving bugs, Bunny Roadrunner crazy. Thank you because it's 605 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: also my go to Yeah that's in terms of comedy, 606 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: Looney Tunes is that's just nothing better. So it's giving 607 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: looney tunes. You got to see this people, but yes, 608 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: crazy but perfectly modulated. Yeah, you're yes, yes, because you 609 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: you could see there's there's you know, there's there's manic 610 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: in there, but you control it really beautifully and you 611 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: care so much and you know the right way, the 612 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: way for you, the way you like things to go. Yes, 613 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: you can't help, but sort of you know, nudge in 614 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that direction. 615 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they're their own personal whoever these afterlife 616 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: coordinators are, whatever they went through to choose that path, 617 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: like they are, they can't help, but have their own bias, 618 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: you know, for their client or whatever. Like. But that 619 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: was the day before because it's like it's a very 620 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 2: what's so pleasurable about it is like it is like 621 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: it has like a light touch and there's like something 622 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: there's kind of a fantasy quality to it. And I 623 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: was like, you know, and also what I was being 624 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: asked to do was actually quite simple, Like I didn't 625 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: have to do what Elizabeth Lizzy, I call it Lizzy 626 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: right yeah, in my phone away. But I didn't have 627 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: to do what she had to do. I just had 628 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: to like hold a clipboard and like make. 629 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: Faces more than that because the tone and the tone 630 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: that you bring into it is really really specific and and. 631 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. But I was like I was beforehand, 632 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: like the day I was like mourning up, mourning up. 633 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: I was like in my hotel, like I was like 634 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: I have. 635 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: To think of the backstory who is this guy? 636 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: Because I was just like I knew what they wanted 637 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: from me, and I was like, Okay, here we go. 638 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm you know, and then and then I was like, 639 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: oh no. I was like I felt that the movie 640 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: was kind of asking me. Actually, They're like, you know, 641 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: it's asking some deep questions. You know, it's it's a 642 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: it's a lighthearted, sweet movie, but it is actually asking 643 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: some deep questions. And so I was like, I was like, 644 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: well I should I should really think about who this 645 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: person is and why he chose instead of going into 646 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: an eternity, why he chose to stay and help people. 647 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: And I like, in alone in my hotel, improvised the 648 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: most like Lars Vauntreer like sedistict, like it was just 649 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: flowing out of me. I was like, and then he died. 650 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: Like it was like I'm not even gonna say it 651 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: because it's so upsetting what I came up with, like, 652 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like weeping in my 653 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: hotel or like with just like it was like a 654 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: really perverse, embittered, like backstory. And I was like, I 655 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: was like, this is so strange. I just did this. 656 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: And then I kind of went on set with my 657 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: little backstory. Yeah, and then of course like the second thing, 658 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, good and no, just to 659 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: really let that be there. Yeah, here we go, here 660 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: we go, and they're like action. I was like, hello, 661 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: my Mary. 662 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I love that you but 663 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I love that you pride it. I mean it's like 664 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: a ballast almost to the ship. Right, it's like this 665 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: heavy thing. Don't even have to get into it. But 666 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: you realize we can't. We look at him and we 667 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: can see that that that's not coming out. Yeah, he's 668 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: not going to allow. 669 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: It exactly exactly. And that's the very kind of. 670 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: And and well, yeah, won't come out it tight up. 671 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 672 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: It is a Loony Tunes in the best possible way. 673 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so funny. I was like scrolling through 674 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: my phone the other day and I realized that Miles 675 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: hosted SNL. Yes, and I was like, is this a 676 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: huge movie? I was like wait what? I was like, 677 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: what move? Am I in a huge movie? 678 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. 679 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: He's great too, He's so good they I mean they 680 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: are movie stars in a crazy way. Like I never 681 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: work with like men, right, I don't. I just literally don't. 682 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm just never across from like except for right now, 683 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 2: like like gorgeous movie stars, you know. And I was like, 684 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: but we were like when we were doing the scene 685 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: where they're like fighting, we like have to go into 686 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: a hotel tel room because they've just realized that they're 687 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: like kind of fighting for her, you know. And I 688 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: was like, it was the first day and I was 689 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: like across from both of them, and I felt like 690 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: a like a eighty year old woman in the supermarket, 691 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: like getting a little maga a little like red Book 692 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: magazine right with the two like a Southern living magazine 693 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: or the two of them on the cover. I was like, 694 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh this is They're both so appealing 695 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: and too much. And I was like, Oh my god, 696 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: I think this movie is major. 697 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Up next, we're going to play a game. How about that. 698 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: We're back with a segment that I designed with my 699 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: friends just for John called who even is that. It's 700 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: an ode to your incredible ability to create characters, an 701 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: ode I'll have you know. I'm going to prompt you 702 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: various accessories and articles of clothing for you to basic 703 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: character around for one short, a short, one minute improv 704 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: scene Okay, so you'll see who I am as we 705 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: go forward. Okay, without further ado, I am the Mayor 706 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: of Portland, and you're a local funeral director wearing this. Yes, 707 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: so John has got a beautiful black mink stoleul I 708 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: guess and it's fake. Yes, don't come for him real? 709 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: And this is is it a lorgnett? Don't know what 710 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: this is right in front of your face, sort of 711 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: a netting in front of your hat. And I've got 712 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: a kind of a beanie breathless and shirt that says 713 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: keep Portland Weird, which is so appropriate. Listen, I I've 714 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: been noticing the cemeteries in Portland. 715 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: There haven't been. 716 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of activity there, and I'm 717 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: just wondering how business is. If I can help you 718 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: in any way. 719 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: Business is just fine. 720 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So I get a sense that you you're 721 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: not really interested in talking about what's been happening in. 722 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: Business is fine, and that's the last time I'll say it. 723 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Okay, I understand I'm feeling a little bit like a 724 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: fish out of water here, only because it's you know, 725 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: it's come to my attention that there have actually been 726 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know how to put this, But people 727 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: have gone missing from your establishment. People have died and 728 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: they've gone to your establishment and they are no longer there. 729 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: When the funeral happens, the caskets are empty, and I don't. 730 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: Know baskets. 731 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: Well as a funeral director. I feel like, are you 732 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: aware of what might be happening in the back room? 733 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Are cadavers disappearing? 734 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: Is this I have to love, Yes, disappearing. I hesitate 735 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: to even address these allegations and give them any credence. 736 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: So you're not willing to to have an invest one 737 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: to have an investigation. We would we would like to 738 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: come down and see exactly what's beending. 739 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: There is absolutely no need to have an investigation. We 740 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: can we can chat in the front room, fantastic, but 741 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: we'll leave it there because purely for sanitation reasons. 742 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Well that makes complete sense to me, because I am 743 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: all about keeping Portland clean. Yes and weird, Yes, I see, 744 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: I see. I am a pie loving detective and I 745 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: am interrogating my suspect who was wearing this. So I 746 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: suspect that you've been spending some time in the islands. Yeah, 747 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: I can tell by the smell the flowers and you've 748 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: been spending some time in the sun. I feel like 749 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: you are guilty of the crime of surfing under an alias. 750 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel like we are getting close. Let me examine 751 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: you closer. Yes, from my eyeglass, I can see that 752 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: the tan that you're wearing is actually a spray on tan. 753 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at your outfit and I realize because 754 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm hard of seeing. Is that a thing that's called 755 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: being blind? That the shirt is actually not real and 756 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: the flowers on the shirt are fake? What is the 757 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: perfume that you're wearing because it smells like, vaguely like coconut? 758 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 2: Am I sunscreen? Oh? 759 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: It's sunscreen? So you're actually so yeah? Yeah, so I 760 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: cannt yet. I see you've been working out. Your abs 761 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: are very prevalent. 762 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is hugely me. 763 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, we need to get back to some pie. All right. 764 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: That's good coffee shop just down the street. Let's good. 765 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm an entertainment director a casino and you're one of 766 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: my dancers. Yeah. So John's got a fantastic blonde, kind 767 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: of a barber eating maybe and then now a white 768 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: dark yeah, dark roots. It's grown out a little bit, 769 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: and I've got the chain with the money symbol on 770 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: it and the dark glasses. But I'm missing one of 771 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: the one of the ear pieces. 772 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: Have to hold them up with Oh no, and I 773 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: have a This is fake? What I remind Yes, yes, it's. 774 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: Not those for viewers watching, this is all fake. Yeah, 775 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: me and John, we were both fake. I don't understand you. 776 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: You didn't dance this afternoon for the evening performance or 777 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: what was your thinking? Do? I? Oh, I can see 778 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: what's happening. 779 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Well? 780 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I think you you've taken something and I 781 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what's happened. 782 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: Now you can you can test my piss. 783 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: I see, you can test my ship, all right, miss 784 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: miss Cecilia. I am sorry, but that language is very, 785 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: very very upsettling. 786 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: Do you have a cup? 787 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Do I have? Yes? I do, in fact, but right 788 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: now I'm drinking coffee out of it, and that's all 789 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: I want to drink out of it. 790 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, what's the big deal of this has 791 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: been happening time and time again, Miss Cecilia. 792 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: This is not allowed in the casino. You know that. 793 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: I know that, but the patrons know that. 794 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you want? 795 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: I just want you to show up to work with 796 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: a good attitude and a new para. 797 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: Good attitude. You would have a very good attitude. I 798 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: have good tits. 799 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: You have the best tits in the business. That's why 800 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: we hired you. I'm just saying, how I'm sorry. 801 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: To remove these for safety reason. 802 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: That's right, there's an electrical shock coming from these. You 803 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: are divine, my dear. 804 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. 805 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: I want only the very best for you. 806 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 2: Thank you, me too, Yes, very good. 807 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: So you please put on your TUTU do it for. 808 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 2: Only if you'll watch. 809 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: It would be my pleasure to do it for daddy. 810 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: This is too much. 811 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 812 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: Okay that we're gonna shake those three off real quick. 813 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Take off those characters. Yeah, that was much fun. Thank 814 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: you for playing along. 815 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 816 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: What is what's happening? What's next? What have you got 817 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: coming up? 818 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: Tell me? I'm working on a player rehearsing play with 819 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: uh while Sean wrote it. Okay, it's called what We 820 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 2: Did Before Moth Days and Andre Gregory is directing it. 821 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, from my dinner with Andre. Yeah, the 822 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: two very famous people. Oh my god, this is amazing. 823 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: Is it in New York? 824 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: It's in New York and we're doing it in the 825 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: winter and spring of twenty twenty six. 826 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Okay, rehearsals now, yes. 827 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: And we've been rehearsing for like a year and a half. 828 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 829 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: It's like very slow. 830 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: Cooked writing as you go or how does that? 831 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: No, it's been very I mean he's making little adjustments 832 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 2: here and there, but like it's it arrived very secret Colet. 833 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: It's shocking. 834 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I am so excited. 835 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: No, no, they're not in it. So Wally's not in it. 836 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: Andrea is just directing. But it's me Hope Tavis. 837 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: I just work with Hope. Yes, yes, we just worked 838 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: on you deserve each other. You deserve each other in 839 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: my head, Hope's absolutely delight. 840 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: I love Hope Davis and Maria Dizzia okay, and Maria 841 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: is like a theater god. And Josh Hamilton. Yes, and 842 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: it's just everyone is. 843 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: So good, super pro. I mean, this is this is 844 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: going to be very cool. 845 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 2: It's it's the coolest thing I've ever done. Yeah, it's 846 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: it's it's just a dream. And the writing is like, 847 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: talk about our town? Do we talk about our town? 848 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: We did not? We did not I've ever done it? 849 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well I did it in high school. 850 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: That was young one. 851 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 2: I've played mister Webb. I wasn't good once again. I 852 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 2: was like, they were like, why don't you play the 853 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: like the Father where I was like, okay, Also, where 854 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: would you put me? Like if they were smart, they 855 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: would have cast me as alcoholic Courus the. 856 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: Choir director that that genius. Yeah you could have. 857 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but but it's it's it's very like I do 858 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: think that he has written like a great American play 859 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: Okay in the vein of our town. It's like very 860 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: very very special. Okay, and you'll have to come see it. 861 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you go to New York all the time. 862 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, ok yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll come. 863 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we'll go out after it. 864 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: Fun and of course we'll go out after it. Please 865 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: get us wine, talk about the shoe. Please be my pleasure. 866 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: It's been so lovely to have you on. 867 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. 868 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: You are quite an amazing person. Oh my go amusing actor, comedian. 869 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean need to do everything. 870 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, and you're welcome to cut this. 871 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 2: We should do a part two where you and I 872 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: watch Girls together together like no one's there when we 873 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: watch it, so you can have whatever. 874 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: I'd be like see I was gone this whole time, 875 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: I was skiing, right, I have no idea what was 876 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: happening in the scene. 877 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: But then and then I come on the pod and 878 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: we just us how you feel about. 879 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: It now, okay? 880 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: And you maybe have more stories than whatever. 881 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely, And I'll. 882 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: Be more prepared with my questions because I realized I 883 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: kind of blew maybe the biggest opportunity of my life here. 884 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Not at all, okay, not at all. Your friends now 885 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: we are friends, Now we are house. Yeah, it's been great. 886 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, and honor. 887 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh, bless your heart, thank you, thank you. 888 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh. 889 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia 890 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 3: and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle 891 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 3: McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture productionists Yay, 892 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 3: featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For 893 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 3: more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and 894 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: TikTok at wawed with Kyle. 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