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Speaker 1: be a nice, cool night here. We got upset alerts.

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's talk about some upset shall we.

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Speaker 1: I got in my hand here generated by flex Power

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Speaker 1: and the first one. Where else do we start in October?

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Speaker 1: But Columbia South Carolina? Okay, Alabama's rolling. Alabama's in the

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Speaker 1: Commissioner's polder and the AP polder and the JP poler everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Their favored to win the SEC. But no one is invincible,

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Speaker 1: especially in October. Actually everyone has been so far this year.

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Speaker 1: Is South Carolina really gonna go winless in October? That's

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Speaker 1: I mean it's twenty five and a half point spread.

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Speaker 2: It was so bad.

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Speaker 1: pretty good. But otherwise they've been competitive this year. They

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Speaker 1: it's tough to score on that defense, but can you

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about Texas now and beyond. I'm worried about it.

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Speaker 1: know about this, guys. Sarahcuse is getting sixteen and a

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Speaker 1: it's tough once you get past the top eight. We

426
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Speaker 1: had trouble. I put both probula number nine. He's he's

427
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: been a little turnover prone, but they're still undefeated. I mean,

428
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: Missouri is Missouri. Well, they've got one loss, they lost Obama,

429
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: but they are still in the thick of it. We're

430
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: gonna see in this Saturday. He's averaged above average performance level,

431
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: got a good, good enough complimentary team around him. I'd

432
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Speaker 1: put him at nine. I'd put Garrett Nussmeyer at ten.

433
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, Nusmeyer is not one hundred percent, but he's

434
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: battling through it. He's eleven to five touchdown to I

435
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: int he's not really gonna have a ceiling game because

436
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: his physical limitation will not let him touch that. But

437
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: if you disagree with that, like, what are we looking

438
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: at right now? Past number eight? It's it's a lot

439
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: of who But I'll tell you what's most jarring, no

440
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: arch manning, And in fairness to you guys, some of

441
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: you did call that out in the preseason, but no

442
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway, no Lenora Sellers. Those were my one two three.

443
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Speaker 1: Like I said when we did that segment, I don't

444
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: mind anyone dunking on me as long as you publicly

445
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: released your preseason expectations too. Everybody's a genius with the

446
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: benefit of hindsight. Don't be cowardly post your thoughts in

447
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: the preseason. Some of you did in the comment section,

448
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: and you'll notice the ones who did and have been

449
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: talking trash. I've just sat there and liked your comments

450
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: like like, but not all of you did that. Flex

451
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: Power went with us to the Vanderbook game the other

452
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: day and we gave away a free generator in the

453
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: parking lot after three trivia questions, which were on easy mode.

454
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Speaker 1: I would say maybe intermediate at best, probably easy mode.

455
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: But then we were taking the flex Power generator because

456
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Speaker 1: they brought me one just because I wanted one. I

457
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Speaker 1: need a generator. We all do you know good and

458
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Speaker 1: well your power is going to go out eventually, or

459
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you need to power a tailgate eventually, or you've got

460
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: a birthday party and you got a lot of rides

461
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Speaker 1: out there for the kiddos. I don't know what you're doing.

462
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Flex Power doesn't either. They know they can generate it, though,

463
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: and I cranked that thing up a couple of times

464
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Speaker 1: so they could demonstrate it. And a lady walked up

465
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Speaker 1: sure enough and said, well that's really quiet. Where do

466
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Speaker 1: I get one? Aha? Myflexpower dot com slash Josh Pate

467
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: that's where you get one. We appreciate them. One more

468
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: thing to get to, actually two more things before we

469
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: get to cublit who is waiting in the wings at

470
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Speaker 1: the Birmingham Airport. The Commissioner's pole has dropped. Listen, literally,

471
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: it just dropped right there. Week nine. Addition, these are rankings.

472
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: They are generated by flex Power. See these are rankings.

473
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: This is merit based. It does matter what your record

474
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: is here. It does not matter who you would be

475
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: favored against on the neutral field. This is the market

476
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: correction to the ap pole. That's what this is. And

477
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: don't forget a couple of weeks from now we got

478
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: the first playoff rankings dropping. I have not been invited

479
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: to be on the committee again, a travesty, but I

480
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: will have a healthy response this year to the playoff

481
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: committee rankings because that's kind of what this is, right, here.

482
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's start at twenty five. I've got Utah

483
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: at twenty five. I've got Illinois at twenty four. LUSU

484
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: has plummeted to number twenty three. They're down fourteen spots.

485
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: Their wins are Clemson in Florida, and those wins keep

486
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: losing value week over week. I've got theories on that,

487
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: like whether your wins should retroactively lose value, But I

488
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: don't think you can argue that their winds are losing value.

489
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Number twenty two Michigan, Number twenty one is Arizona State?

490
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: Really big win last week and they got a tough

491
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: they got a tough road to ho coming up. As

492
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Mema would say that, I think they got Houston this week,

493
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson out with a hamstring injury, but they got

494
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: the number twenty one ranking right now, top twenty. Why

495
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: is Navy not ranked in the apeopole? Why has the

496
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: ap taken a decidedly un American stance and left the

497
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: entire US Navy out out out in what would we

498
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: call that unmoored? I need some nautical terminology. It's a

499
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: shame is trying to sink Navy, but I won't let

500
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: it happen because unlike the dastardly AP, I care about

501
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: our naval men and women, our midshipmen. I care about them.

502
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: And also they're undefeated, you know. So let's put them

503
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: at number twenty for now, number nineteen, Cincinnati, number eighteen, Virginia.

504
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I am putting Notre Dame number seventeen. We're jumping them

505
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: eight spots. As I said last week, once Notre Dame

506
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: beats quality teams, they will rock it up, because yes,

507
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: they do have two of the quote unquote best losses

508
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: in the country. And once they beat good teams, I'll

509
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: vault them up. I thought what the AP was doing

510
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: is jumping Notre Dame up before they've gotten the good

511
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: win because they predicted them to get the good win. Well,

512
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: that's not how the Commissioner's poll operates. This is not predictive.

513
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: This is reactive. So now Notre Dame is sitting at seventeen,

514
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Louisville is sitting at sixteen. That's up ten spots. They

515
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: beat Miami on the road, and Louisville's a very good team.

516
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: They're only lost Jesse is there only lost Virginia. They're

517
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: a one loss team, right Louisville a one lost team

518
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah, Louisville at number sixteen, I know goodwell,

519
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: Jesse doesn't have Louisville's schedule pulled up. I just like

520
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: to drop that on him. Number fifteen is usf Alex

521
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: Goalish and the Crew. Right now, I project them to

522
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: be my G five team in the playoff. They play

523
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Memphis this weekend. It's an early kickoff, I think two Saturday.

524
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: It's a big day for college football on the state

525
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: of Tennessee this weekend. Texas Tech is down nine spots

526
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: at number fourteen. Now, I'll save you the time. Yes,

527
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: we may have dropped them too far. I was thinking

528
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: about it as I was walking into the studio. The

529
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: graphics were already made. I couldn't do it. I couldn't

530
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: do anything about it. And I thought, Man, they lost

531
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Speaker 1: on the road with their backup QB. Dropping nine spots,

532
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: did we punish them a little bit too much? Maybe so?

533
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: If I had to do it over again, I may

534
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: have Texas Tech closer to a eleven or twelve. But

535
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Missouri is at thirteen. A

536
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: big week this week on the road against Vanderbilt Brigham

537
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Young is another example of a team that was not

538
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: ranked high end the Commissioner's pole because they hadn't really

539
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: beaten anyone, which wasn't their fault. But it also is

540
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: not my fault. But I told you, once you beat someone,

541
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: you will rocket up the Commissioner's pole. They beat Utah,

542
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: they have jumped twelve spots. They are now number twelve

543
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: in the Commissioner's poll, and they've got a chance to

544
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: jump even higher this week because I got another tough

545
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: game on the road against Iowa State, a rested and

546
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: wounded Iowa State. Might I add, let's put ole mess

547
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: at number eleven. Some things you're noticing here, Texas is out.

548
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't have Texas ranked. I think that's a joke

549
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: that Texas is ranked right now. That's insane. Any other team,

550
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: almost any other team with the same resume minus the

551
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Longhorn logo, is not ranked. Texas should not be ranked,

552
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: and they're not here. Also, from week two, which is

553
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: the first week we did this poll, to now, four

554
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: of the top eleven are gone. Penn State was originally

555
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: in the top eleven. Gone, Texas gone, Florida State, gone,

556
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: South Carolina gone. Sad times around here at the Commissioner's Pole.

557
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is number ten. Yes, you heard me right. We

558
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: have a top fifteen matchup about to take place just

559
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: across town at Vanderbilt Saturday. Oklahoma. We got at number nine.

560
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: They got a really good win against South Carolina. It

561
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: was overlooked. I always knew it would be overlooked. We

562
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: did not overlook it. Not because you get a ton

563
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: of credit for beating South Carolina, but because they steadied

564
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: the ship and now they get to play ol Miss.

565
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: That's number eleven versus number nine Saturday, another early kickoff.

566
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Oregon is number eight. I keep feeling the need to

567
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: explain that we are not shaving a ton of value

568
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: off of their win at Penn State, because that is

569
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: pre fatality Penn State. Penn State's dead now they're no

570
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: longer with us. They're gone. This is the Penn State

571
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: Memorial season. But Oregon killed them. So Oregon deserves credit

572
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: for that. So it's not like with LSU when I said, oh,

573
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: the Clemson loss or Clemson win keeps losing value, the

574
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Florida win keeps losing value. I do not look at

575
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: the Penn State game the same way for Orgon. So

576
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to put them at number eight. Georgia Tech

577
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: is at number seven. For all the talk about how

578
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: they should have lost the Wake game, they should have

579
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: lost the Duke game, they didn't. This is not the

580
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: JP Pole. In the JP pole, we can address that.

581
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: This is the Commissioner's poll. You win games, you get

582
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: credit for winning games. I don't care because here's the

583
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: thing about benefiting from lucky breaks. If you're down thirty

584
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: eight to thirteen, it doesn't matter if you get a

585
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: lucky break. So part of the skill in benefiting and

586
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: winning games based off lucky breaks is putting yourself in

587
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: position to benefit from it, and no one ever talks

588
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: about that. So Georgia Tech put themselves in position to benefit. Now,

589
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: you could just as easily have your heart broken by

590
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: bad breaks. True, but that's football. We scoring threes and sevens.

591
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: The ball is weirdly shaped, so you get credit for

592
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: winning games around here. Miami dropped to six. I think

593
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: the AP dropped him further.

594
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: I think that.

595
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Miami got punished because of how big a favorite they were.

596
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: Miami lost a game to a pretty good team. I

597
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: think if Miami was only favored by five, they wouldn't

598
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: have dropped as far in the Ape pole, but because

599
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: they were nearly a two touchdown favorite and they lost,

600
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: they dropped further. I don't really care about how much

601
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: they were favored by. I care about what quality of

602
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: team they lost to. They lost to number sixteen, Well,

603
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: at least where they are now. Louisville is number sixteen.

604
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: So I dropped Miami to six. I wouldn't fight you

605
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: a ton if you wanted to drop him to seven

606
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: or eight, but I got him at six. We got

607
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: five to one Georgia, Texas, A and m Indiana Alabama

608
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: in Ohio state, which I think, Jesse, you told me

609
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: that's the same one through five as the AP is,

610
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: just in a little bit different order. Alabama has gone

611
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: from unranked to number two in five weeks, which goes

612
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: to show you I don't have a problem radically altering

613
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: my opinion from week one to week two because I

614
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: dropped Bama out entirely. And I also don't have a

615
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: problem that if you right the ship, jumping you right

616
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: back up to where you were, because Alabama's all the way,

617
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: they're higher than they were in the preseason. Actually, so

618
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: that's where we are on the commissioner's poll right now,

619
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: one through twenty five. Oh you know what? You know

620
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: what I just realized, jesse Man, we got to call

621
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: an audible. Where should I put them? I don't want

622
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: to tell you what it is yet you probably can

623
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: guess if you live, especially in the eastern part of

624
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: the state I'm in right now. I didn't put Tennessee

625
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: in here now, Jesse, So we'll make a new graphic.

626
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: Where where do we think Tennessee should go? Twenty one,

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty two? Two? Lost team? Right now? Georgia and Alabama

628
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: are their losses. I'd put them ahead of Michigan. I

629
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: put him ahead of there. Do you think number twenty

630
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and bump Navy to twenty one? Does that sound about right? Okay,

631
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: pretend with me that I told you Tennessee is number

632
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: twenty and Navy's twenty one, in Arizona State's twenty two,

633
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: and Michigan's twenty three, and LSUS twenty four Illinois twenty five.

634
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I am so sorry to Utah, but I don't know

635
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: what to tell you. You should have gone into provo

636
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Speaker 1: and won the game. There you go, commissioner's poll changing

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Speaker 1: How are things there?

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Speaker 4: I'm holding it myself and actually looking out past the

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Speaker 4: But yes, first time We've had to do this on

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Speaker 2: For the inconvenience and the Randoms walking behind me.

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Speaker 1: And you've got to connect. I heard it's not even

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Speaker 2: Thanks for reminding me. But yeah, we'll be in Atlanta

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Speaker 2: for a couple hours. Always great.

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, I.

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Speaker 2: Even checked a bag for this. Made it totally miserable.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk misery, I'll give you misery. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the forecast for Auburn, Arkansas. Not the prediction,

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Speaker 1: mind you, just the weather forecast. We're looking at steady rain,

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Speaker 1: breezy conditions, tempts mid fifties, load to mid fifties at kickoff,

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Speaker 1: which is an eleven am kickoff, which we all know

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Speaker 1: treats Auburn very well historically in northwest Arkansas. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at this. We got Arkansas f every by one

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Speaker 1: and a half, two and a half. Now, lines moved

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Speaker 1: even as you picked up the phone, you got all

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Speaker 1: the talk around, Hugh Freeze, Bobby Petrino needs the signature win.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about Patrino in that job.

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Speaker 1: If I had a guest today, I think he may

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Speaker 1: end up getting the job, but I know the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season will go a long way in determining that.

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Speaker 1: Let me fill you out here. Let's just basically treat

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Speaker 1: this as a game prediction. First thing you're paying attention

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Speaker 1: to Auburn Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: It's Taylor Green because he's a takeover player. He can

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Speaker 4: completely take this game over. Auburn did not tackle him

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Speaker 4: well a year ago in Jurnhair Stadium, didn't even really

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Speaker 4: get close to him. And when he decided to leave

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Speaker 4: the pocket, he didn't just turn into minimal games. He

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Speaker 4: turned it into big gains and explosive plays. So this

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Speaker 4: Auburn defense seems to be a little more disciplined upfront.

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Speaker 4: They seem to have a little more disruptive capabilities. But

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Speaker 4: with that in mind, are you going to be disciplined

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Speaker 4: with how you attack the pocket? Texas A and M

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Speaker 4: didn't do that last week, and I think they're better

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Speaker 4: at getting to the quarterback than this Auburn defense is.

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Speaker 4: And they allowed Tailing Green to leave the pocket and

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Speaker 4: be a dominant runner, and when they had to alter

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Speaker 4: some things, that allowed him to be able to work

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Speaker 4: them over in the passing game as well. So you

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Speaker 4: have to sit back and wonder, Josh, is this Auburn

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Speaker 4: defense on the brink of just not having a performance

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Speaker 4: anywhere near what it's been the last five six weeks.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if that let down performance is coming in.

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Speaker 4: If that's the case, how much of the slack in

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Speaker 4: the offense really pick up?

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Speaker 2: Based on what we've seen that there shouldn't be a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of confidence that they're going to be able to go

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Speaker 4: out and put up four hundred and fifty four hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty five yards in a game. Now, this Arkansas

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Speaker 4: defense would be the one that you would believe.

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Speaker 2: Probably could do that.

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Speaker 4: And if Cam Ball's not in there in the middle

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Speaker 4: of this Arkansas defense, they've got issues at de tackle. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: maybe Auburn can controlled this game.

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Speaker 2: If the weather's going to be what you.

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Speaker 4: Say, it might be more advantageous to try to just

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Speaker 4: live on the ground, utilize more quarterback run with Jackson Arnold.

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Speaker 2: If he is the guy for four quarters.

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Speaker 4: We got the memo last week from Hugh Freeze that

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Speaker 4: he might not be the guy for four quarters, and

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Speaker 4: if two or three series were to go the wrong way,

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Speaker 4: we were going to see Ashton Daniels in.

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Speaker 2: That football game.

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00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: They loved the way that he practiced, loved how he's

784
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Speaker 4: carried himself, and Hugh Freeze had essentially told us that

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Speaker 4: Jackson Arnold is not doing the things that he's capable

786
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Speaker 4: of doing in our offense that we ask him to do,

787
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Speaker 4: and if that continues, he's not going to be our quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So those will be the first things that come to mind,

789
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Speaker 4: specifically with this game that I'm interested in seeing.

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Speaker 1: I'd be really surprised if we didn't see multiple quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Let's go over under one and a half quarterbacks there

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Speaker 1: for Auburn. I'll take the over. Surely they find twenty

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Speaker 1: eight offensive points somewhere here. This is my thinking. I'm

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Speaker 1: not asking you, I'm saying, surely in my mind, with

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Speaker 1: the defensive numbers we just put on the screen there

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Speaker 1: from Arkansas, if it's gonna happen, I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a moment where it's not an explosion, but

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Speaker 1: just offense clicks a little more, you find first down

799
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, you fall forward a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: you break a few more long runs. If I'm facing

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Speaker 1: someone one twenty one against the run, one pin fifteen

802
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Speaker 1: against the pass, I gotta find something. I don't really

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Speaker 1: care which quarterback I gotta put in to do it.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why what you just said stood out

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Speaker 1: so much to me is everything Auburn's been so far,

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Speaker 1: They're not the only one in the league like this.

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Speaker 1: Texas is like this, LSU is like this. Everything about

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Speaker 1: their offensive profile a lot of it sucks, but they

809
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Speaker 1: still know they can rely on defense to keep them

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Speaker 1: in games, and so they know, hey, man, we score twenty,

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Speaker 1: we may may be good enough. And you got to

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Speaker 1: ask what you just asked. Do you just get to

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Speaker 1: think that way all year, twelve weeks or is there

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Speaker 1: a period week seven, week eight, week nine where there's

815
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Speaker 1: not enough gas left in the tank defensively, you can't

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Speaker 1: keep screwing up and looking on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the sideline for them to bail you out. And if

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Speaker 1: that were to happen, let's say rain's not a huge

819
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Speaker 1: detriment in this game and Arkansas's offense is able to operate,

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Speaker 1: it could be the game where you get pressed a

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Speaker 1: little bit and you do have to answer trade points

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. That would concern me if they

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Speaker 1: get that kind of that kind of game script.

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Speaker 4: Did you say over one and a half quarterbacks in

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Speaker 4: the game for Auburn. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean too.

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Speaker 4: I could see just kind of wondered if there was

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Speaker 4: a third that would even be an option there for

828
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Speaker 4: you to discuss and talk about. I don't think we

829
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Speaker 4: see Deuce Night in this game. I think you may

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Speaker 4: see him in games later in the season, though, if

831
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Speaker 4: the game were to go the way that you just

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Speaker 4: laid it out.

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Speaker 2: Here's my problem. You want to get the track meet with.

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Speaker 4: This Arkansas offense and the way they've played the last

835
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Speaker 4: two weeks, because A and M defense pretty good and

836
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Speaker 4: they essentially had their way with that group. So if

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Speaker 4: your defense is having a letdown day and that's how

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Speaker 4: the offense has to pick itself up and against the

839
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Speaker 4: defense that they should be able to move the football against,

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Speaker 4: that's the offense that you want to go toe to

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Speaker 4: toe with when your defense is not having a good day.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think that style game is advantageous for Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: I would go back to almost hoping that the weather's

845
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Speaker 4: a little bit of a problem. The reason I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: is that you're going to have a freshman center who,

847
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Speaker 4: by the way, seventeen years old.

848
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Speaker 2: You can start that narrative. Now we can say that.

849
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Speaker 4: Fifty seven times a game if we want and a

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00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: wet ball, he had some air and snaps a week ago.

851
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 4: If you are playing more than one quarterback, the cadence

852
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: becomes a little bit different. That verbiage is always different.

853
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: It's never exactly the same, just the rhythm and the

854
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: feel of it. It changes. It does that complicates things

855
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage.

856
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: So I almost think about some of those things.

857
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: Josh and I immediately think, let's slow this thing down,

858
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: get as much of it under control as we can.

859
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: We don't want to use tempo, we don't want to

860
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: go warp speed here, and we don't want to try

861
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: to trade touchdowns with the team that is probably not

862
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 4: going to fail at scoring touchdowns very often if our

863
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: defense is not playing well. So while I can see

864
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: parts of that going the way that you said, I

865
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: don't know if Auburn wants to get into that style

866
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: fight necessarily in this game.

867
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, not preferable. I'm just saying if it is that way,

868
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm not just blindly leaning on my defense every week. Man.

869
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: All right, well, I guess I'll have to score twenty

870
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: four this week instead. Of sixteen. The other thing here,

871
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean you and I were talking earlier today. Third

872
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: downs in this game, third down in any game is

873
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: a big deal. Third down in this one probably red

874
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: sharpie circle.

875
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

876
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: And Arkansas, I think is fourth in the nation and

877
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: third down converdens offensively and actually having a tailing green

878
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: who understands not just can leave the pocket with speed,

879
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: but he understands how to leave the pocket. He understands

880
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: where the rush is coming from. How do we allude

881
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: to where it's going to lead to longer games? He's

882
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: just great. He's got a great knack for it, and

883
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: obviously being a long stre two steps and he's gone.

884
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: He's passed the defensive end or a defensive tackle.

885
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: So the Auburn defense is better on third down, but

886
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: they're atrocious third down offensively, and the Arkansas defense not

887
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: great on third down. So I don't know what's going

888
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: to give here when Auburn has the ball, if they

889
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: were to get to a third down, something sort of

890
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 4: has to give here, and I guess there either will

891
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: be a conversion or a punt. Maybe they go for

892
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: more fourth downs we're anticipating, but third downs should be

893
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: monumental in this game for both teams, because it feels

894
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: like Arkansas could continue those drives on third down and

895
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: then maintain possession and sort of flip the script on Auburn,

896
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: so to speak. And if Auburn gets a lot of

897
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: third downs, can they keep the football? I mean, that

898
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: would be the question because it looks like Arkansas is

899
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: not one that's going to take it back very often

900
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: and Auburn hadn't converted many of them.

901
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: I rolled with Arkansas in this game. I actually picked

902
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: at Sunday night. It was one of my favorite picks.

903
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't love the weather forecast, don't love it, but

904
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride with it. Did you lean it away

905
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: in this thing?

906
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: I just think it's a bad spot for Auburn. Honestly,

907
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 4: I don't love the matchup because I do like how

908
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: DJ Diurkin is designing his pressures to be able to

909
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: get to the quarterback. If you watched that game last

910
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: week and we were talking about it during the game,

911
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: he was forcing side quick protection one direction or the other,

912
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: and he was going to revert that pressure back inside

913
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: whichever direction that you slid away from it, and it

914
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: had success. It got to the quarterback. This is a

915
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: quarterback that if you're not precise with your pressures and

916
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: how you run them and how far you rush up

917
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 4: the field, He's going to be able to make you pay.

918
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: And I think that could be problematic. And you looked

919
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: at even last week playing a little bit of a spy.

920
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: You still have quarterbacks I think can run away from that.

921
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: Not a lot of spy techniques have been successful against

922
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: Taylor Green.

923
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: Catch and run has been big for Auburn, and.

924
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: I think they're underrated at running back. I think they

925
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: have two hammers at tailback that can get down hill

926
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: in a hurry. And I just I am wary of

927
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: this Auburn defense where they are right now, the amount

928
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: of snaps, play a lot of younger guys and that helps.

929
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: I just don't see the spark on offense. And maybe

930
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: it is Ashton Daniels and he comes in and it's different.

931
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 4: Maybe it is a terrible Arkansas defense. But I'm gonna

932
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: have to see more than a couple of checkdowns. And

933
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: I did last week to think that all of a

934
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 4: sudden au there is just going to move the football

935
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 4: on a consistent basis.

936
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, I want to talk about coaching for

937
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: just a second. There's a lot of talk about this

938
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: around the league right now. I think you you are

939
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: kind of like me, at least in the past when

940
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: talking about hot seat stuff, and that you don't really

941
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: lean into it. I don't really lean into it. You,

942
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: like me, probably think firing a guy should be closer

943
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: to the last resort than the first thing that comes

944
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: to your mind. And yet we've got varying degrees of

945
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: it around the league right now. Billy already lost his

946
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: job at Florida. There's a lot of talk around Hugh Freeze,

947
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: there's talk around LSUS. Part of it's the offensive staff,

948
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: part of it is just straight up Brian Kelly, even

949
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: though they're five and two and can still make the

950
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: playoff if they went out. So I'll ask this, or

951
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: you can even go Norvelle Florida State, I'm gonna ask

952
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: you this. I'm understanding it's case to case, you know,

953
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: based on individual circumstances. When is it actually time to

954
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: start having that conversation versus having the conversation of, well,

955
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: he didn't forget how to coach. Let's get to the

956
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: end of the season and let's maybe clear out some

957
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: of the underbrush. Clear out some of the roster, overhaul

958
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: some of the staff, reallocate resources, get an infusion of cash.

959
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Like where do you draw that line? Because I think

960
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard, but it's it's kind of like

961
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: if a team quits on someone like I think Noravel's

962
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: on the precipice of having happened two years in a row.

963
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: That's where I got real trouble saying, oh, don't worry,

964
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: We'll just give you a third shot at this. However,

965
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: with like Brian Kelly, maybe unlikable and all that, and

966
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that traffics well on message boards, but do I'm not

967
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: going to hot seat yet when the guy's five and two.

968
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: Now we play twelve games, so every game is paramount,

969
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: every game's huge, and maybe that changes if you go

970
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: really cold down the stretch. Hugh Freeze finds himself somewhere

971
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: in between where he got a lot of close losses.

972
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: None of these are blowouts. Defense playing its tailoff team

973
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: hasn't really quit, although you'll find people to question maybe

974
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: the competitive in tech ready person to person sometimes, So

975
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: where's your head out on all this?

976
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: I think it is it's always going to be a

977
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: case by case basis and now I'm actually interested in

978
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: really where it is because I'm not sure that.

979
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: I know necessarily when you get to.

980
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: That point, and that is because of administratively where we

981
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: are in college football, financially where we are in college football,

982
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: roster movement, where we are maybe single portal injury is

983
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: going to help this a little.

984
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: Bit and calm it down. The way that I would.

985
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: Probably measure it, Josh, is when you begin to lose

986
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: the fan base, when that becomes evident and it looks

987
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: like it's not working with what you said at the

988
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: let's get to the end of the year, let's reevaluate,

989
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: let's get some staff out of there, let's maybe try

990
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: to reinvent our roster just a little bit. When you've

991
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: done that two three times, I think it's time to

992
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: say this isn't gonna work. This just isn't it. And

993
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: there are certain programs right now I think we're sort

994
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: of hearing some of the same excuses, seeing some of

995
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 4: the same problems that we've seen for two three years.

996
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: At that point in time, I think it's safe to.

997
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: Say you're about to lose your fan base, You'll probably

998
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 4: start to lose your administer.

999
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: And when you do that my administration.

1000
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: I think I'm including the people that are essentially going

1001
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: to pay for these rosters. I know they're not employees

1002
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: of the school, but I view them in the same

1003
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: light as I would the athletic director of the president

1004
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: and whatnot.

1005
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 2: So I think once you look at it and say this.

1006
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 4: Is kind of what we are and if that's not satisfactory,

1007
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 4: it's never too early to make that move. And I've

1008
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: never been one that likes it in season. I've told

1009
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: you this before, we've had that conversation of what it

1010
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: does to the players. They're going to receive less coaching,

1011
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: They're going to receive less teaching, less attention because now

1012
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: all those assistants are thinking about their next job. And

1013
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at them for that. Who could blame them?

1014
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: You know you're done at the end of the season.

1015
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: You know the new guy's not going to keep you around.

1016
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 4: So you're out there making phone calls trying to see

1017
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: where you could land next year, where you and your

1018
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: family are going to have to move to. Are you

1019
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: going to have to move your family? What's going to

1020
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: take place? The other guys don't know. And now with

1021
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: the portal, you have no idea. How many players are

1022
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: even going to consider sticking around with you or go

1023
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: with you to the next place, So you're having those conversations.

1024
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: I just I don't like it in season.

1025
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 4: I hate it for the kids, but they are also

1026
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: different players now, they're also getting paid.

1027
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: Now, they have the ability to leave whenever they want.

1028
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: So it's I don't feel as bad as I once did,

1029
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: but it is an unfortunate scenario when you have three, five,

1030
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 4: seven games left and the attention span of the coaches,

1031
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: the players, the team continuity just immediately goes away because

1032
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: everybody is hyper focused on what's next. And you can

1033
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 4: blame them for that. I wouldn't be mad at anybody

1034
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 4: for it. It's just where you are. So I don't

1035
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 4: know if there's a timeline that we can look at

1036
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: right now, just because of how new everything is. I

1037
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: don't know if we'll ever really had this figured out

1038
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: until we get some sort of settlement across college football.

1039
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't even mean that legally.

1040
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: I just mean, like when the dust settles, when we

1041
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: can calm down and understand, Okay, year to year, this

1042
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 4: is what it's going to be, this is what it's

1043
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: going to look like. This is how you evaluate. This

1044
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: is how you replenish your roster. This is when guys

1045
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 4: can go can't go. This is when we're not going

1046
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: to have court dates every seven weeks, and different guys

1047
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: are going different places trying to sue the NCAA and

1048
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: get more eligibility, and guys from the G League are

1049
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: coming back to play college basketball. Like, when all that

1050
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: stuff settles down, we may be able to figure this out.

1051
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: Until then, think about some of these situations we're talking

1052
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: about right now, Josh. These places want to get rid

1053
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 4: of their coach, but financially they're not able to do that. Like,

1054
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 4: what's your timeline there? Are you just waiting for a

1055
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 4: booster to come knock on your door and say, Okay,

1056
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 4: I've had enough, here's the check, get him out of here.

1057
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: We're good now. And if that's the.

1058
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: Case, that guy even has it and is potentially going

1059
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: to give you to you at some point, why are

1060
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: we waiting now for it to get worse?

1061
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: Because if that support is.

1062
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 4: Gone and the morale is gone, what's gonna make it better?

1063
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's going to. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know if.

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: Waiting now is anywhere near as good of an answer

1066
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: as that had been in the past.

1067
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Here's where I struggle with it. All right, So there's

1068
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: on one hand, I've got the logic that I personally apply,

1069
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: and the other hand is reality. Take Penn State James

1070
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Franklin as an example. In my logical hand, I thought

1071
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: to myself, all right, they made this a national title

1072
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: or bust season. It busted. They're gonna lose more games.

1073
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: It became obvious it was just a dead team, all right.

1074
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: My logical hand says, in the new modern age of

1075
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: college football, the worst case scenario, even for the better coaches,

1076
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be there may be a dead season baked

1077
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: in every now and then because the root system is

1078
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: way different roster wise than it used to be. However,

1079
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: my logical hand says, that doesn't automatically mean I need

1080
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: to fire the guy. But there's no emotion in my

1081
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: logical hand. And so Penn State looked at it, and

1082
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: you'll have people from Penn State say, oh, bro, there

1083
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: was no other option. We had to make this move.

1084
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: We had to do it. There was no other choice.

1085
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: I will never agree with that fundamentally, but also, it's

1086
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: not my team. I'm not the donor there I'm not

1087
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: the season ticket holder. And what's crazy is when the

1088
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: human dynamics get thrown in there, it gets hard to

1089
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: make the decisions. And also, we could be talking about Hugh,

1090
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: we could be talking about Billy, we could be talking

1091
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: about Mike Norvel. He can talk about whoever. Brian Kelly.

1092
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: There is about nine twenty five percent attention from the

1093
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: fan base paid to do we want to get rid

1094
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: of this guy? There's about five percent attention paid to

1095
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: is there a definitive upgrade that we already have in

1096
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: our back pocket that we know is ready to take

1097
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: the job and has agreed in principle if we make

1098
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: this move. Because if you don't have that, you're paying

1099
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to guess that's basically what

1100
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: you're doing, and that terrifies me.

1101
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 2: I have no doubt.

1102
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: And I think even that part of it has become

1103
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: more complicated because of the playoffs. Are you going to

1104
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: sit around to wait for a coach it's going to

1105
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: be in the postseason and going to go potentially that

1106
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: deep in the postseason.

1107
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: If not, when do you draw the line.

1108
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: Of Okay, any coach potentially in that playoff system we're done.

1109
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 4: We're going to wait for round one. If they continue,

1110
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: we have to go make a move somewhere else. You

1111
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: and I don't know what those mose lines in the

1112
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: sand are going to be, or what those deadlines are

1113
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: going to be, so it's more complicated than ever. And

1114
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 4: I just want to give a shout out to producer Jesse.

1115
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: By the way, I know he's I'm driving him crazy

1116
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: right now by moving around as much as I am.

1117
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: That single shot on Josh just saved my right arm,

1118
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 4: and I just want to tell him that I appreciate that,

1119
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: because otherwise I think this arm was going to fall off.

1120
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: But I'm appreciative.

1121
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: And I think he needs to know that because nobody.

1122
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: Else tells him they appreciate him.

1123
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: So I figured i'd at least let him know that

1124
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: I do appreciate one thing that he's done today.

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00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: That's what the money's for. That's what the money's for. Also,

1126
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: half our audience listens on podcast has no clue what

1127
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about. That I'll appreciate that. I appreciate the

1128
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: theater of the mind. Last question for you, take yourself

1129
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: back to SEC media days. Everything you thought about Team

1130
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: I could care less the last week of August, right

1131
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: before Week one kicked off everything you thought about the

1132
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: sec Which team has performed the furthest away plus or

1133
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: negative from your preseason expectation, And maybe go beyond Texas

1134
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of people's answer will be Texas, Like

1135
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: people are very shocked that the offense has been as

1136
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: bad as it's been. And if that's your answer, fine,

1137
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: If it's not, fine, but go beyond Texas because mine's Florida. Like,

1138
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I was really really high on the potential of Florida

1139
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: and it just kind of went in the tank. Where

1140
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: would you go? Notice you're not going to thank me

1141
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: like you think, Jesse, But I spoke slower than molasses

1142
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: here to give you time to think, and I saw

1143
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: your eyes wandering. There was a lot of eye movement there.

1144
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: So I've given you a solid minute here, three, two,

1145
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: one go.

1146
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 4: You might even be able to get past some of

1147
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: the technology in NBA poker circles with that knowledge of

1148
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: how eyes move and rotate.

1149
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you Tennessee.

1150
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: The reason that I would not give you, say Auburn

1151
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: or Florida is even though we thought that they had

1152
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: a chance to extend, there were still those real question

1153
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 4: marks there of can they really get that much further

1154
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: past where we kind of realistically believe they're going to be.

1155
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: There were some holes in that Florida roster that we

1156
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: were a little bit concerned about. I didn't think Tennessee

1157
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: was going to face plant. I didn't think they were

1158
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: gonna knowse die, but I didn't think they'd be in

1159
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: the spot that they're in right now.

1160
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: And you look at that Alabama game.

1161
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: I still say, Josh, coming off that game, I sat

1162
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: in my hotel room in Charlotte on Sunday and I

1163
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: thought to myself and listen, there are no would have

1164
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: should haves in football.

1165
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: If you would have you could have, then you would

1166
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: have done it and taken care of it. You didn't.

1167
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: But without those drops, what would that game have looked

1168
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 4: like in the fourth quarter?

1169
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: Yep, those are some monumental.

1170
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: Drops in some big spots to some wide open receivers

1171
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: and tight ends. I still think physically they're well passed

1172
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: where any of us thought they were going to be,

1173
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: both on the defensive mind and more specifically on the

1174
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: offensive line. And now with David Sanders coming in, maybe

1175
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 4: they're going to be even past that I think running

1176
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: back has not been the issue that we thought it

1177
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: was going to be with Dylan Samson having to be

1178
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: replaced Joey I gars done a really nice job operating

1179
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: the offense. What to watch though, is going to be

1180
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: wide receiver down the stretch. I think they have three

1181
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: wide receivers in the top ten of the sec in

1182
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: snaps right now, and they're not rotating a lot there

1183
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 4: and they don't have a lot of extra bodies. That

1184
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: is a position that could completely just melt by the

1185
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: end of the season. But where I thought they were

1186
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: going to be where they is, and this happens a

1187
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: little bit more of how they've done it.

1188
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Also, like you and I talked about, coming out of

1189
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: that Georgia.

1190
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: Game, that's as close as those two teams have been

1191
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: physically in I don't know what fifteen years, thirteen years.

1192
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: And they didn't get.

1193
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: Pushed around in that game. They didn't get pushed around

1194
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: the Alabama game. They didn't get bullied. I mean, there's

1195
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: a reason that Alabama started using extensions of the run

1196
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: game through the air, and that's because Bryceon and Esen

1197
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: and those guys were in the backfield early in the

1198
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: middle of that.

1199
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: Offensive buying for Alabama.

1200
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: So I'll probably give you Tennessee as a team that

1201
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't really sure of, probably leaned on the lower

1202
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: end of the middle of the pack, and now still

1203
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 4: has an opportunity to play their.

1204
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Way into the college football playoffs.

1205
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,479
Speaker 1: I think we had Georgia pretty much pegged as well.

1206
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: They're going to be a really good team. The front

1207
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: defensively will be not even shades of what it's been

1208
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: in years past. There was a question market quarterback, but

1209
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I think you, like me thought, I mean, there's a

1210
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: pretty high floor for a Kirby Smart Mike Bobo quarterback

1211
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: that they're going to put out there. I had questions

1212
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: about whether a receiver would truly be a strength of

1213
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: that team. They have upgraded there. Not dominant, but they've

1214
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: upgraded there. They've run the ball better. Offensive line's been

1215
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: a mess at various points this year, which I don't

1216
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: think shots many people. They've had to win two games

1217
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: where they needed forty plus and so they've done it.

1218
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: But I think do we I think we nailed Georgia

1219
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: in July. This is exactly what I thought. They'd be.

1220
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: Very close.

1221
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: But I'll say this about Georgia keep your eye on

1222
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: this football team the rest of the way, and it's.

1223
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: People are going to roll their eyes because they're going

1224
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: to say, bro, it's Georgia.

1225
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 4: But there have been moments this year that they have

1226
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: looked more human than they have maybe an all of

1227
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: Kirby Smart's tenure. That offensive line that you mentioned, yes,

1228
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 4: it has been atrocious. However, you got a freshman playing,

1229
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: and on top of that, you've had to mix and

1230
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 4: match these guys all over the place, starting to guard

1231
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 4: at tackle, right tackle, left tackle. This is a team

1232
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: that I feel like, with the little continuity down the stretch,

1233
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 4: could all of a sudden easily look like a top

1234
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: three team, may be one of the top two best

1235
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: teams in college football. Because I don't think Gunner Stockton

1236
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: is getting near the conversation he deserves. He's gonna miss

1237
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 4: two three throws a game because he's gonna try to

1238
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: fire him in there.

1239
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit that gunslinger mentality. But that

1240
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: little eurostep he put.

1241
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 4: On the two old misdefenders that had a clean run

1242
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: at him, and then on the flea flicker with the.

1243
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: Defender in his face, dropping that ball in the corner

1244
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: out the way that he did.

1245
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,479
Speaker 4: I just think that his skill set is past where

1246
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 4: anybody thought it was going to be.

1247
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: All right, good chrief. What's happening to him? Plug Cube Show,

1248
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: tell the people where they can. First call me.

1249
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jesse.

1250
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: First off, clean your lens after we hang up. Secondly,

1251
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: plug Cube show.

1252
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: Cube shows a podcast that not many people listen to anymore.

1253
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 4: It is on YouTube as well. It lives there.

1254
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: You can go find it. We had some technical issues.

1255
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean the whole thing, the whole server that we

1256
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: put the show on, was down for two days. What

1257
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: are we doing, folks? Just search Cube Show wherever you

1258
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: get your podcasts and I listen. My wife got mad

1259
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 4: at me for not plugging Tuesday Date Night with.

1260
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 2: You last week.

1261
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: And I was breaking cars with Pizza Pools last night.

1262
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: My buddy Andrew was there with me, nineteen years old.

1263
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 4: I got to share the story with you real quick.

1264
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: We were just talking about where I was going this weekend,

1265
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: and he goes, man, you're doing so many big things

1266
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: right now, bro, Like you're just you're killing it. You

1267
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: got like you're doing that game you got pay. I

1268
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 4: mean you're on with Pay, Like how often you on

1269
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: with Pate and I was like, okay, get to the

1270
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 4: other things we got We're doing other things too. He goes,

1271
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: I just like the stuff you do with paint. Man,

1272
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 4: it's just so good.

1273
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: One two, that's seven minutes a week. That's the rest

1274
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: of it.

1275
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: He just kept going pat all the way down. I

1276
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: was like, got it. At least we got paid. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Let's get his address. Let's send him some stuff we

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Speaker 1: need him. Those are the most important reactions you have

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Speaker 1: all week. All Right, you are out of here. You

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Speaker 1: will be in Lexington, I will be in Nashville. Come

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Speaker 1: to Nashville every now and then, come to a Vandy

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Speaker 2: They're a little two for our crew this year. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: What a world and once we live all right, col Kublic,

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Speaker 1: he's off. Have a good night. That's him, that is us.

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Speaker 1: We're done. Remember huge weekend, and by that, of course,

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Speaker 1: I mean softball championships tomorrow night. So we got to

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Speaker 1: classic conundrum here. I could do it before, and we

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Speaker 1: gonna do. I know we'll be at Vandy Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: I know we'll be back here Sunday night to talk

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Speaker 1: for director Bradley, I'm Josh Pate. Take care, enjoy the games.

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