WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #32

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<v Speaker 1>Cold Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>No inappropriate joke Robert to start this episode, Wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so clean.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I guess you could say I have some

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<v Speaker 3>executive dysfunction today.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here executive disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the Crumpling world,

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<v Speaker 2>what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Mia Wong, Robert Evans, and possibly Sophie Lichterman,

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<v Speaker 2>our producer. This episode, we are covering the week of

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty eighth to September third, Happy fake Labor Day

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody, and some breaking news from this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump maybe died.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's check out on that. Garrison as our official,

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<v Speaker 3>is the president a lie of correspondent?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me do a quick at Google search here? Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still around.

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<v Speaker 3>Did everyone get tricked again?

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<v Speaker 2>He's still okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Like conspiracy theory is the week were really fun And

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<v Speaker 4>then there was that thing that video that went viral

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<v Speaker 4>of like them like opening a White House window and

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<v Speaker 4>throwing out a couple of black trash bags.

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<v Speaker 3>That really was really funny. That was really funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, there's way worse things going on in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. I don't have time to care about this.

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<v Speaker 4>But we never got information about that. That was just

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<v Speaker 4>some weird shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet, not yet, Sophie sensational.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we know what it was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it could just be that's them fucking cleaning shit. But

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised if they were destroying evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't aware those windows could open. I thought they

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<v Speaker 4>were like bulletproof and and like weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to open.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they both bulletproof, but have to be possible

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<v Speaker 3>to open so that the Secret Service has more paths

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<v Speaker 3>of egress in the event that some crazy disaster were

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<v Speaker 3>to befall the White House. Okay, well, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the documentary White House Down, Sophie. This spells all

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<v Speaker 3>of that out.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trump went a few days without a major public appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>The man is just trying to take some time off.

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<v Speaker 2>Though he was seen golfing between Saturday and one day,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's nothing on Trump's public schedule for three days

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<v Speaker 2>during Labor Day weekend, where he essentially took a brief

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<v Speaker 2>gulfing holiday, and this fueled speculation that he was in

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<v Speaker 2>a rapid health decline, spawning a whole bunch of conspiras,

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<v Speaker 2>theories about him being in the hospital, Vance imminently taking over,

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<v Speaker 2>and some comments from JD. Vance during a USA Today

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<v Speaker 2>interview released last Thursday fueled some of this speculation. Over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, Vance said, quote, I feel very confident the

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<v Speaker 2>President of the United States is in good shape, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to serve out the remainder of his term and

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<v Speaker 2>do great things for the American people. And if God

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<v Speaker 2>forbid there's a terrible tragedy, I can't think of better

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<v Speaker 2>on the job training than what I've gotten over the

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<v Speaker 2>last two hundred days unquote. It sounds like he's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to take the reins right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, man, Yeah, you're trained up now.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the weekend, people spread AI altered images of Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>face looking more swollen and sickly than it actually was,

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<v Speaker 2>and rumors circulated that roads to Walter Reed Medical Center

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<v Speaker 2>were closed yeah, when in fact there were no irregular closures,

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<v Speaker 2>and screenshots of maps supposedly showing these quote unquote closures

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<v Speaker 2>were actually just showing old security gates because yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just like walk or drive up to the front

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<v Speaker 2>door of Walter Reed Medical Center. Yeah, it's in a

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<v Speaker 2>military base.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the ocent of idiots, right, which is people

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<v Speaker 3>seeing something that is described as being one thing in

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<v Speaker 3>this like little clip that they get of it in

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<v Speaker 3>social media and they don't actually do any further check up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing with like the Pentagon pizza totally

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<v Speaker 3>orders that people are like, ohh when pizza orders peeked

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<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon, where about the US is about to go

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<v Speaker 3>to war, and it's like no, Sometimes people just order

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<v Speaker 3>pizza near the Pentagon because the Pentagon is surrounded by

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<v Speaker 3>a city, right, there's like there's people.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pentagon pizza tracker was part of these weekend conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theories that you were like trying to decide how to

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<v Speaker 2>handle Trump's declining health, and yes, people just like pizza guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's one of those things. I'm certainly not saying

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way you will wake up tomorrow to hear

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump has died, because you know what, he's seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't be weird if his health took a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>turn in the next day. Just statistically, it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>weird because he's seventy nine. But like the people pointing

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<v Speaker 3>out sy simile they were doing with Biden pointing out like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>like the marks on his hand, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't it for both of them. This is evidence

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<v Speaker 3>that they are older than you should be to be president.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, my grandpa had shit like that, because my

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<v Speaker 3>grandpa lived with us for the last like ten years

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<v Speaker 3>of his life. His hands looked a lot like that

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<v Speaker 3>for like a decade. Like, so people live for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. After it becomes clear that they're very sick

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<v Speaker 3>and old, it's not a sign that they're about to

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<v Speaker 3>kick off this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy in Congress who looks like a turtle has

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<v Speaker 2>had weird bruises on his body for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember, Toddle, Yeah, but no, Like accounts were

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<v Speaker 2>basically theorizing that like Putin poisoned Trump during their last meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is why he's in a rapid health decline.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would he need to do that? Why would that

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<v Speaker 3>benefit him?

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<v Speaker 5>So baffling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when people noticed looking at the White House schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>which they'd realized just existed a few days ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>when looking on the schedule, they saw that quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>the president was to give an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of this, rumor spread that it would be Trump

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<v Speaker 2>resigning for health reasons or Vance would come out and

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<v Speaker 2>announce Trump died and he was the president now like

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<v Speaker 2>some like really bad Aaron Sory in movie. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>it works.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I just want to also put this out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that White House leaks like a fucking sieve. There is

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<v Speaker 5>no way you could cover up the president dying without

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<v Speaker 5>it being out immediately, Like come on.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm sorry, like you, they couldn't keep it hidden

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<v Speaker 3>when he got sick. You think they're going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they're gonna weaken it Bernie's it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when this press conference got delayed an hour on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>this too was used as the evidence of Trump's declining health.

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<v Speaker 2>But sure enough, right before three pm, Trump came out

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<v Speaker 2>with a huge gaggle of people, which is probably why

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<v Speaker 2>it was delayed, because he had like twenty guys with

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<v Speaker 2>him who, like multiple people spoke to announce that they

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<v Speaker 2>were moving space command. And Trump seemed normal. He seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like normal Trump, like he is an old guy, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>this was just normal Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, does he seem older than he did in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's like were wrinkled.

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<v Speaker 4>But like he's older exactly like he did before these

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<v Speaker 4>conspiracy theories started.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he looks old, Like he looks older

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<v Speaker 3>than he did ten years ago. Yeah, I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, he's so much less coherent than then. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he's not like, yeah, dying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any particular reason to expect he's about

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<v Speaker 3>to drop dead, like as opposed to like three months

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<v Speaker 3>ago or six months ago, you know, yeah, like does

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<v Speaker 3>it appear as if time is continuing to march on

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<v Speaker 3>his face?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, you know exactly. During said press conference,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump himself was asked about his alleged imminent demise and responded, like,

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<v Speaker 2>this a.

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<v Speaker 1>Really different but about a big viral social media trend

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you find out over the weekend that.

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<v Speaker 6>You were dady?

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<v Speaker 5>You see that? No, people didn't see it for a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 3>about your demise?

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<v Speaker 7>Really, you know, I have heard it's sort of crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>But last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful.

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<v Speaker 7>They went very well, Like this is going very well,

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<v Speaker 7>and then I didn't do any for two days, and

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<v Speaker 7>they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see him, and

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<v Speaker 7>nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him.

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<v Speaker 7>And we know he wasn't the greatest of shape.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I heard that.

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<v Speaker 7>I get reports. Now you knew. I'd did an interview

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<v Speaker 7>that lasted for about an hour and a half with

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<v Speaker 7>somebody and everybody. So that was on one of your competitors.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a remarkably coherent Trump by Trump's standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, and he's talking about how he was sending

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<v Speaker 2>out very pointiant truths over the weekend on truth So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for current Yeah, like and yeah, he just took

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<v Speaker 2>a nice little golfing golfing holiday and like it is drue.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the oldest elected president and the White House

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<v Speaker 2>recently announced he was diagnosed with chronic venus and sufficiency

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<v Speaker 2>a few months ago to explain his ankle swelling and

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<v Speaker 2>the bruises on his right hand have become more noticeable,

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<v Speaker 2>which the White House is attributed to frequent handshaking and

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<v Speaker 2>the use of aspirin.

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<v Speaker 3>That is really funny. Yeah, he shook too many hands.

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<v Speaker 2>He just can't stop shaking hands.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>But the aspirin thing is is real, and people of

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<v Speaker 2>his age, frequent aspirin use can lead to bruising. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just finished up my Blue and On research,

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<v Speaker 2>and then this whole weekend as I was like literally

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<v Speaker 2>finishing those episodes, this, this whole this whole giant wave

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<v Speaker 2>of these like Trump health conspiracies just just completely took

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<v Speaker 2>over and I felt like I was like losing it,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone around me, and everyone around me was indulging this,

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<v Speaker 2>and like usually from this place of like half joking

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<v Speaker 2>but not really joking. Like when yeah, when that line

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<v Speaker 2>gets blurry between are you indulging in this like ironically

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<v Speaker 2>because it's fun or does it is it actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of altering your brain? Like is it actually slowly making

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<v Speaker 2>you convinced of this stuff? In like a small way.

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<v Speaker 3>This gets to what is at the root of all

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy culture, regardless of like the political ideology, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the need, the emotional need to believe that you are

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<v Speaker 3>the possessor of secret knowledge. Yeah, right, like that that

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<v Speaker 3>that is so much a part of this that like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I am privy to secrets about the world that

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<v Speaker 3>the average person is not, and the degree to which

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<v Speaker 3>that's like comforting and also emotionally necessary for quite a

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<v Speaker 3>few people. And that's part of the problem with humoring

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<v Speaker 3>this is that the instant you let it into your life,

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<v Speaker 3>it starts taking more and more power because it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>part of your ego, It becomes part of your coping mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 3>It becomes like yeah, something, but you become dependent upon it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I think it's also word noting. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>people are confused all the time about how does the

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<v Speaker 5>right come to believe all of these things? How does

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<v Speaker 5>the right sort of you know, like, how does like

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<v Speaker 5>vaccine conspiracism spread? How does like QAnon spread? It's like

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<v Speaker 5>it spreads like this, right, this is what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're also not immune to it just because your

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<v Speaker 5>politics are better. It's still really really easy to fall

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<v Speaker 5>down those pathways because they're addictive and fun. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>spreading so much unhinged shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the root of a lot of madness comes with

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that you're better than other people and that you're

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<v Speaker 3>not cognitively.

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<v Speaker 2>I can play around with this stuff without it affecting me.

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<v Speaker 2>The way to fix other people. M M yeah, or

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<v Speaker 2>just because this is because the politics of this counter

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<v Speaker 2>factual belief system are better than their counterfactual belief system.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a counterfactual belief system totally. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>like when we see this with the way some people

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<v Speaker 2>talk about like Russia, and like, I've faced a little

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<v Speaker 2>teeny bit of pushback on some of the ways that

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<v Speaker 2>I was framing like Russia Gate in the Blue and

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<v Speaker 2>on episodes, and like, there is a difference between a

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<v Speaker 2>social media disinformation campaign to influence elections, which Russia does,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we know.

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<v Speaker 3>This absolutely, that's not in question whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a difference between that and like straightforwardly stealing

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<v Speaker 2>an election in such a manner that the election results

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<v Speaker 2>are themselves illegitimate.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And this is the big question always if you're saying, like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>they literally did steal this election in the twenty sixteen election,

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<v Speaker 3>then like, but they just like fucked up for twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>They just couldn't get their shit together in time for

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<v Speaker 3>that one. Like what or is it that they have

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<v Speaker 3>influence campaigns like everyone else and they're influence, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean saying that they're not problems but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean pretending that's the only reason shit broke their way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in part, A big reason why things worked

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<v Speaker 3>the way that they have and have worked the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they have is that the disinfo campaigns that Russia,

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<v Speaker 3>that the Russian government was engaged and were complementary to

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<v Speaker 3>campaigns of disinformation that have existed for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>And the US right look at the way they were

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<v Speaker 2>funding right wing content creators through Tenet Media, right, And like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, same thing with Trump, Like publicly encouraging Russia

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<v Speaker 2>is not the same thing as actual collusion. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is no clear indication that the twenty sixteen Russian influenced

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<v Speaker 2>operations or even like their accessing of voter registration actually

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<v Speaker 2>made a meaningful impact on the results of the election.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the same thing with you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>the rights legal methods of voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression or

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<v Speaker 2>changing mail in voting rules. Right, there's that versus talking

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<v Speaker 2>about like hacking voting machines. Right, the former doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that the election was quote unquote stolen. Now just because

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<v Speaker 2>they do voter suppression, right, the results still need to

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<v Speaker 2>be accepted, Like that's not illegal. Election interference. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>We should oppose it. Yeah, but it's not a legal

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<v Speaker 2>election interference. And like this is kind of just like

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<v Speaker 2>a coping method that passes the buck to avoid accepting

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<v Speaker 2>that Republicans were better at winning these elections. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it may be emotionally easier to like blame Russia than

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<v Speaker 2>to actually like reflect on ourselves. And I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing when people talking about how for the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four election, on election day there were bomb threats

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<v Speaker 2>to swing state polling places that were traced back to Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, while this is nominally true, this did not

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<v Speaker 2>influence the result of that election. And then this can

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly devolve into like just like basically like just

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions, right, like you can't prove a negative, and

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<v Speaker 2>this just turns into like a very cartoon version of

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<v Speaker 2>understanding reality, like with like people in ski masks fixing

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<v Speaker 2>elections or changing votes, where like hackers compromising election like

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<v Speaker 2>voting machines, instead of just accepting that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people voted for Trump and he won well.

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<v Speaker 3>And the part of the other problem is that I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you lose yourself in patterns of thinking like this,

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<v Speaker 3>it also leads to a failure to accurately gauge the

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<v Speaker 3>strengths and the capacities of the enemy. Like if you're

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<v Speaker 3>unwilling to see where they've made smart decisions and where

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<v Speaker 3>they've made good investments that have paid off for them,

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<v Speaker 3>then you are unable to follow and properly counter those

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of things. And I think part of why this

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<v Speaker 3>is so difficult is that so many people, so many

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<v Speaker 3>liberals and people on the left. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 3>think both sides have differences in how they do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't think there's a massive difference in the

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<v Speaker 3>degree to which either side does it. But you find

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<v Speaker 3>on both ends of the political spectrum this emotional need

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, these people are idiots, And the corelating

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<v Speaker 3>factor with that is that like, and I'm not right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm smarter because I'm not one of these people,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not one of these like fools who buys

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<v Speaker 3>into this right wing propaganda. And you're if you're more

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with that than you are with seeing where your

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<v Speaker 3>enemy has made smart decisions, then you're going to continue

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<v Speaker 3>getting dunked on by them endlessly. You gonna gain blindside,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's where we are right now. People are

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<v Speaker 3>getting dunked on repeatedly because they refuse to see the

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<v Speaker 3>things that Trump does that are based in actual intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>and the things that the far right has done, the

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<v Speaker 3>things the Republican Party is of the architects of this

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<v Speaker 3>movement have done that have been successful. You know who

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<v Speaker 3>else is successful?

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<v Speaker 6>Genius the products that support this podcast. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 6>and we are bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So on Tuesday, the Mayor of DC ordered that the

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<v Speaker 2>city will continue cooperating with the federal law enforcement pass

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<v Speaker 2>the export date of Trump's Crime Emergency Declaration, which is

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<v Speaker 2>set for September tenth. She has established the quote Safe

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<v Speaker 2>and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center. She is for DC to

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<v Speaker 2>indefinitely coordinate with Trump's Safe and Beautiful Task Force. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like a caving and like an acquiescence to prevent

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of larger legal fight over Trump's ability to

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<v Speaker 2>exert power over DC. It's giving him a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of what he wants while trying to maintain a degree

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<v Speaker 2>of sovereignty, but in doing so you kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>play into what he actually wants. In the end. This

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<v Speaker 2>operations center will work on quote centralized communications formulate post

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<v Speaker 2>emergency planning and operations, and ensure coordination with federal LW

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement to the maximum extent allowable by law within the district. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>in her order, she quote unquote, requests that federal partners

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<v Speaker 2>adhere to effective community policing practices to maintain community confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in law enforcements, such as by not wearing masks, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>identifying their agency, and providing identification during arrests and encounters

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<v Speaker 2>with the public.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote, the Safe and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to prioritize DC National Guard for typical mission focused activities unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are requesting that federal partners not wear masks,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of the strongest amount of pushback the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor is allowing in regards to Trump's federal control of

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<v Speaker 2>over law enforcement in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, that'll solve it, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>A while back, I said that like, one of the

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<v Speaker 5>most important sources of support that the Trump administration has

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<v Speaker 5>is a bunch of the Democratic mayors and governors, and

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<v Speaker 5>oh boy, is this one of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>However, it's worth noting that this has not been the

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<v Speaker 5>response of all of the Democrat governors, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to turn here towards the impending occupation of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>So Trump has said that he is going to deploy

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<v Speaker 5>the National Guard to Chicago, ostensibly also because of crime.

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<v Speaker 5>As of two thirty two Pacific time on Wednesday, the third,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't have a timeline for the National Guard deployment.

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<v Speaker 5>That could change. The situation is evolving rapidly. We will

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<v Speaker 5>get you more on a second. We also have conflicting

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<v Speaker 5>reports where Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker has said that

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<v Speaker 5>the Texas National Guard is being staged to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>participate in the sort of occupation of Chicago. Gray Abbott

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<v Speaker 5>has denied this. We sort of don't know what exactly

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<v Speaker 5>is going on with that, but it is worth noting

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<v Speaker 5>that both Governor Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson have

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<v Speaker 5>been very very clear of that they do not want

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<v Speaker 5>a federal deployment in Chicago. They have said go home.

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<v Speaker 5>There isn't really because this is a federal deployment, There

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<v Speaker 5>isn't really much they can do about it outside of

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<v Speaker 5>legal stuff. And the Trump administration has been a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more careful about this, and they were in La in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of how they're doing the deployments legally, so we'll

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<v Speaker 5>see what happens with the National Guard deployments. However, and

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<v Speaker 5>this is something that I think is getting very very

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<v Speaker 5>little coverage, which is that the actual threat model on

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<v Speaker 5>the ground in Chicago, and the day this is going up,

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<v Speaker 5>we will have run in an interview the day before

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<v Speaker 5>with Raven who's a journalist from the Chicago based outlet

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<v Speaker 5>Unraveled about what the response in Chicago has been to

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<v Speaker 5>all of this, and how people are repairing and what

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<v Speaker 5>the threat model is. The actual thing people are worried

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<v Speaker 5>about in Chicago is not the National Guard so much.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the deployment of federal agents from Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 5>including ICE in the Border patrol. Very very specifically, there

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<v Speaker 5>is difificant concern about border pature because while there has

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<v Speaker 5>been ICE operation in the city and that's obviously very bad,

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<v Speaker 5>as we sort of talk about, there really hasn't been

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<v Speaker 5>any significant border patrol deployments and that seems like it's

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<v Speaker 5>about to start as an indication of how fast the

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<v Speaker 5>situation is moving. So that interview was recorded Wednesday morning,

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<v Speaker 5>September third, Yeah, September third. In the time between that

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<v Speaker 5>recording and now, which was maybe three hours, we got

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<v Speaker 5>more information about the federal deployment. So the Sun Times

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<v Speaker 5>is reporting, based on reports from government officials, that two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and thirty agents, including Border Patrol, are being sent

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<v Speaker 5>from LA to Chicago. Thirty agents are already here. They've

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<v Speaker 5>been doing training in anti riot stuff with flash bangs.

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<v Speaker 5>They've also apparently moved one hundred and forty unmarked vans

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<v Speaker 5>to this naval base, not really in Chicago, we'll get

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<v Speaker 5>to that seconds, but they've moved one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 5>on mark vans to do these kind of raids. This

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<v Speaker 5>very much suggests that they're going to do the kind

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<v Speaker 5>of smashing grab raids we've been seeing in LA. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the thing people are very worried about. And we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>you know, tiktoks from the senior leadership with the Border

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<v Speaker 5>Patrol talking about how.

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<v Speaker 3>Their talks I know, it's it's bleak.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, literally, it's like it's it's tick talks of

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<v Speaker 5>him going like we're trading our palm trees for skyscrapers.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh jeez, it's really bad. It seems like they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be deploying the kind of smashing grab raids they

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<v Speaker 5>did in LA. But comment there's one final thing I

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<v Speaker 5>want to get to. This naval base is not really

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<v Speaker 5>in Chicago. It is really far north of Evanstone, which

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<v Speaker 5>is like a thing that's like not Chicago's like this

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<v Speaker 5>naval base that they're deploying from is closer to Kenosha

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<v Speaker 5>than it is like Kenosha, Wisconsin, than it is to

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<v Speaker 5>like even the north side of Chicago. It's like really

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<v Speaker 5>really far north again, like even to I mean neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 5>that are pretty far north. It's like an hour out right.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a multiple hour drive into the center of

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<v Speaker 5>the city, so it's going to be kind of difficult

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<v Speaker 5>for them to deploy in the middle of the city.

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<v Speaker 5>This is something I talked about with the raven It

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<v Speaker 5>looks like they're trying to hit the more outlining areas

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<v Speaker 5>more with raids because those areas are less well defended

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<v Speaker 5>and there's not as much sort of rapid reaction stuff there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's sort of what this looks like. People are preparing

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<v Speaker 5>because I guess there's one more important thing, which is

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<v Speaker 5>the naval base is where they're running their operations out of.

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<v Speaker 5>But the naval base has declined the request to house them,

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<v Speaker 5>so they're probably going to be in a hotel. Seople

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<v Speaker 5>are going to target those, but yeah, that's where things

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<v Speaker 5>are at as of Wednesday, they're staging in this weird

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 5>naval base that is really not close to the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the real focus on this anti crime

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<v Speaker 2>crackdown is also a way to like trojan horse slightly

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>obscured ice operations. And when Joey cler are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>like National Guard deployments to cities nationwide, the actual main

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<v Speaker 2>mode that National Guard will be operating in is logistical

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<v Speaker 2>and like like PaperWorks support for ICE operations. Yep, at

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<v Speaker 2>least for these like broader nationwide deployments. With these specific

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>deployment in DC and in Chicago, there's there's more preparation

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 2>for like carrying out ordinary law enforcement actions. But those

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.919
<v Speaker 2>actions also exist in coordination with immigration crackdowns, and like

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of what these like more militarized occupations

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>are going to be focused on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it's worth noting like just logistically, like they're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to be sending the Guard into the parts

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 5>of Chicago where there like are is crime sometimes with

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<v Speaker 5>though again it's worth noting crime rates that weighed fuck down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but also like every story about this is like, oh,

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 5>there were shootings over the weekend, and it's like, yeah,

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 5>it's not good, but like the actional Guard is not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be deployed to stop shootings. They literally can't

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 5>get there again, It's like, no, three hours out.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they can't get to the north side of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>And as as we all know from the song Bad

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<v Speaker 3>Bad Lee broy Brown, the south side of Chicago is

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<v Speaker 3>the baddest part of town.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesus Christ, I'm just gonna ignore that.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, yeah, you should just ignore that.

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<v Speaker 5>There are places in Norset that they could deploy. But

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<v Speaker 5>if you're trying to get to the actual south side,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 5>it is at least a three hour drive. And that's

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 5>like assuming that, like the traffic isn't bad, Like it's

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 5>at least three hours. It's possibly larger than that. I

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 5>I didn't even bother checking it because I looked at

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:36.719
<v Speaker 5>where this was and I was like, this is basically

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 5>in Wisconsin, what are we doing here? So like this

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 5>is you know, this is this is GZ Garrison was saying,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a this is a giant show of force thing,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's but it's mostly just this is the sort

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<v Speaker 5>of shock and all thing to frame this as crime

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 5>so that people aren't focusing on obviously, like it's bad

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 5>having just like troops in the streets, but like the

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 5>ice enforcement and the border patrol deployment is what the

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 5>actual threat is here.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and like yeah, Depentagon and the Trump admen

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>are planning a lot of different scenarios that they would

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>like to enact. But Trump's actual comments on like a

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>larger like military style deployment to Chicago had been a

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit flip floppy. I think they're still trying to

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<v Speaker 2>reach some kind of deal to like work with the

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>local government and state governments in a way that is

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<v Speaker 2>less bombastic than like a like a completely like adversarial

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>deployment would be. Even that that press conference where the

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>shambling corpse of Trump made an appearance, his his his

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 2>comments about the possibility of the point of to Chicago

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>is seemed still pretty exploratory, Like there's still there's still

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>like conversations being had about how to actually do this.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 2>They they are not as as brazen as what they

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<v Speaker 2>were in LA and they don't have as much justification

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>to do what they did in DC to a city

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>like Chicago. So they're still trying to work out some

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of deal with like the local governments.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's really unclear to me that they're going

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 5>to be able to reach a deal with Brandon Johnson

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 5>and with Pritzker, who's leading it.

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>It seems that Brandon Johnson's less willing to work with

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Trump on this than the mayor of DC, So props

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to him for that, I guess.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And this is also a thing where Brandon Johnson

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 5>is like very deeply unpopular in Chicago. However, actual federal

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 5>deployment there is so unpopular that you have you have

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 5>the fact that The Sun Times is pointing out in

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 5>the reporting of this that crime rates are down, which

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 5>they have never done, like ever, That's not a thing

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 5>they ever talk about. It's so unpopular that there is

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 5>really really significant pressure on both Pritzker and Johnson not

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<v Speaker 5>to do this, and you know, maybe they cave. I

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 5>have a kind of low opinion of them from like

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 5>my time in the city doing politics there, But I

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 5>don't think they're going to cave on this, No, And

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 5>I think what that means is that it's mostly going

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 5>to be the homeland security like ice border patrol deployments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, guesse. Chicago does fall into our very loose definition

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of like a border town.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, yes, which most towns are.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of JB. Pritzker, I mean he has a lot

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>of corporate interests. He may have stock in one of

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 3>the companies advertising on our show. We have no way

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>of knowing we're back.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I just got a text from JB. Pritsker. Oh yeah,

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I was recruiting for the private people's militia to defend

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the free municipality of Chicago.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>So he's recruiting horse archers for the cop Yeah. Yeah,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 3>you've got to be able to loose twelve arrows a

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 3>minute from the back of a war pony in order

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 3>to in order to make the make the cut.

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<v Speaker 5>Protesters did shoot arrows at the cops at Hong Kong,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 5>so it's not it's not without precedent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes they did. Yes, they did at the university. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know, if Florida National Guard deploys to Illinois,

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 2>they may be able to use biological warfare because the

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Florida Surgeon General has just vowed to end all of

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the state's vaccine mandates, equating them with slavery. Not just

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the COVID mandates, all vaccine mandates across this state. After

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>he announced this, he got like over thirty seconds of applause,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>like NonStop. I will play a little bit of the

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>end of this announcement.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 8>Every last one of them is wrong and drips with

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 8>disdain and slavery. Okay, who am I as a government

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 8>or anyone else, or who am I as a man

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 8>standing here now.

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<v Speaker 3>To tell you what you should put in your body?

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Who am I to tell you what your child should

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 8>put in your body?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have that right.

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<v Speaker 8>Your body, your body.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Is a gift from God.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>You really wanted to say, your body your choice.

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Huh?

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 8>What you put into your body is because of your relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>With your body and your God. I don't have that right.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh really, Oh really? Oh wow, unless it's trans healthcare,

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 5>in which case you simply cannot.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>A little on the nose there.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 6>God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's frankly wild. Yeah, motherfucker. It's like it's like

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that commercial that was.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, you might be too young for this.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Kuess there's this commercial with this this old man with

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 4>like a dollar on a fishing rod.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Going you almost got it. It's literally that it's literally

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>that no very close into walking into a full body

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>autonomy argument there, even though you know, for reproductive healthcare

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that is unrelated to general public health, which is why

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>these mandates exist, which can affect people besides you.

0:29:59.560 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Ron Santas announced and during the same press conference

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the creation of a Florida's own Make America Healthy Again Commission,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>which will enforce Robert F. Kennedy's policies to the fullest

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>extent in their state.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Grand he was the least charismatic person we saw speak

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 4>at the RNC last year, just saying yeah, DeSantis. Yeah,

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, no, no, who was worse?

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>JT Vance?

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 3>YEA Advance was there.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That lady did fall asleep.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Man and people people were outwardly contemptuous of Vans at

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>the RNC, like like Republicans were contemptuous. But remember the

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>women for trouble, A.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Woman who fell asleep next to us while watching the

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Dvance speech and then mouth he's so dry.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that was really good. Yeah.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 4>But I would say DeSantis is a solid number two,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe Abbot three, I don't know.

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they should have got a vaccine to boost their

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>boost their charismas dats.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's how that works, lax or.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So this is really dangerous. This is going to put

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of kids in harm's way. Yeah, worrying trend.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk a little bit about Ukraine. Ukraine

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 3>specifically kind of the present situation of the war in Ukraine.

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Just kind of another little update because people catch little

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 3>bits here and there on the news about what's happening,

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>and I felt like we should probably update people as

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>to what's been going on. Kind of the most recent

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 3>news you've probably heard is that Russian forces have been

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 3>advancing in the Dnetsk Oblast and recently broke into an

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>eighth region of Ukraine and started taking villages in the

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>d naipro Petrovsk region, which is like a major industrial

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>center that's next to the Dnet region, where Russian soldiers

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>had not been recently. At this point, gains in this

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 3>new region by Russia have been seemed to be fairly minimal.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 3>They've entered two villages in the eastern part of the region.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 3>The Russian Defense Ministry claims that they captured both of

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 3>the villages. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has said, well, they're

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 3>in the area and they're basically contesting them, but they

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 3>haven't entrenched or built fortifications. Like fighting is ongoing. I'm

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>sure neither country is giving out perfectly accurate data, but

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>it seems certainly fair to say and verifiable to say

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>that Russian has made an incursion into this region and

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>the fighting is ongoing. However solid their gains may or

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 3>may not be. This is not the entirety of what's

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>going on in the conflict overall. Basically, the whole line

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 3>of contact with Russia, which is about one thousand miles long,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 3>is in play at the moment, but there have not

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>been like massive gains over the last couple of months,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and in fact, as of August of twenty twenty five,

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Russian forces occupied about nineteen percent of Ukrainian territory. They

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.959
<v Speaker 3>first hit nineteen percent back in October of twenty twenty two,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 3>right before Ukrainian forces liberated a large chunk of the

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Kersan Oblast. So basically what we're seeing here is Russian

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 3>forces reached this peak like three years ago, a Ukrainian

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>counter offensive pushed them back, and over the last three

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>years Russian forces have kind of clawed their way back

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 3>to where they were near the end of twenty twenty two, right,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 3>if you're looking for, like what is the overall progress

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 3>of this war over the last three years, So that's

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.959
<v Speaker 3>obviously not going well for Ukraine, but it's also not

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 3>This is not a situation where Ukrainian forces are in

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>any kind of collapse like you're looking at. It took

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Russia three years to get back to where they were

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>three years ago, so this is I mean, this continues

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>to be a grinding and hideous conflict, but it does

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>not look like one at which the end is in

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>any way in sight. Still, even with the kind of

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>pulling of support from the US of Ukraine, with a

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 3>reduction in arm shipments and whatnot from the United States

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>to Ukraine, there's not any signs of like a generalized collapse.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, over the last couple of years there's

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 3>been a fairly minimal increase in occupied territory. Right now,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the pace of Russia's advance in Ukraine, per a recent

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>AP article, has slowed by eighteen percent just over the

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 3>month of August. So Russian forces took about four hundred

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and sixty kilometers of territory in August and had been

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>seizing more like five six hundred square kilometers of territory

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 3>a month in the couple of months prior to that,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of what you're looking at in terms

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 3>of the overall pace of the conflict. One of the

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 3>major changes that we've seen over the last like really

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>specifically like a couple of quarters in the conflict is

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Ukraine has been increasing their capacity to hit Russian strategic

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 3>targets behind the line, like well behind the line, we're

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 3>talking fuel and we're talking power infrastructure, which has been

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 3>extremely successful. One of the things that's allowed Ukraine to

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>hit these further back targets has been they've they've started

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:58.280
<v Speaker 3>producing an indigenous style of cruise missile code named the Flamingo,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>which has an eleven hundred almost twelve hundred kilogram warhead

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 3>and a three thousand kilometer range, which puts it about

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 3>one thousand kilometers past kind of the maximum range the

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>one way attack drones like these one way suicide UAVs,

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 3>which had been Ukraine's like furthest in way to strike

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Russian territory, those only reached in about two thousand kilometers,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 3>So this puts a significant amount of like Russia's infrastructure,

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 3>within Ukraine's ability to target they're currently producing. I think

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 3>that they're hoping to get up to by the end

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>of the year, seven missiles a day by October. Now,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>these new cruise missiles are fairly easy to shoot down

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 3>with like modern air defenses, but modern air defenses are

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>in short supply, so it's a matter of if you're

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 3>able to produce an increasing number of these and you're

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 3>fleeing as many of them as you can out every day,

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>the Russians will have to make choices in terms of

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 3>what infrastructure are we actually going to devote anti missile

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 3>assets towards, and you know that's always going to be

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 3>less than the total number of targets there are to hit,

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and the in terms of evidence that these strikes have

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 3>been successful, there has been increasing limitations on personal fuel

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 3>use inside the Russian Federation and increasing power outages, like

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>all of that has gotten more common over even just

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 3>like the last several months in particular, So kind of overall,

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 3>what we see if we're looking at this conflict is

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>a grinding, high casualty endeavor where the Russians are slowly

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.720
<v Speaker 3>pushing back Ukrainian lines at the cost of a pretty

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 3>nightmarish number of casualties. Right, Like, this is still a

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 3>meat grinder conflict, and that dimension on the ground for

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the Russians hasn't changed. The main thing that has changed

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 3>is Ukraine has gotten better at striking behind the line,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 3>which has been met by a significant acceleration in Russian strikes,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>particularly even on like civilian assets in Ukraine. Like, there

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>have been more missile campaigns, more drone bombardment campaigns on

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 3>the capitol and civilian targets than previously. Like some of

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 3>the largest raids just took place three or four days ago.

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's kind of a broad update as to

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 3>what's going on. It continues to be a very ugly war.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 3>One of the main things that we've learned about what

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 3>modern warfare is going to look like is that it

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 3>is almost impossible for infantry forces without air supremacy to

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<v Speaker 3>break and make large advances and then hold that territory

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 3>if they do not have air supremacy. When you're looking

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 3>at two peer combatants, that's almost impossible to do. And

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 3>so a significant amount of the fighting devolves into who

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 3>can fling drones and missiles behind the lines and hit

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>different sort of strategic assets with more efficacy, And that's

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 3>what the war has bogged down to at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of aerial strikes, do we want to at least

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<v Speaker 2>reference attack on the Venezuelan alleged drug smuggling vessel that

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<v Speaker 2>was announced during Trump's death press conference.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we blew up a boat. We did a boat

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>in international water that was claimed to be a trend

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 3>to Agua, which is a Venezuelan kind of analogous to

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 3>a cartel organized criminal organization.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the biggest boogeyman's of the second Trump term.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're primary, like Latin American boogeyman, and yeah, we

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 3>blew them up. The administration is claiming it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>filled with fentanyl or whatever. I don't believe there's as

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<v Speaker 3>of yet any independent evidence that this boat was in

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 3>any way affiliated with Trindagua or carrying drugs or headed

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 3>to the United States. We simply don't know a lot

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 3>of times, like just the way that trinda Ogwa works,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>This is not like the Sinaloa cartel. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>a cartel that has a massive degree of international capacity

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 3>that extends to the United States. Like there's even significant

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>debate as to how much they are extended into other

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 3>parts of Latin America, they've had like really limited success

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:59.320
<v Speaker 3>expanding into Colombia because different insurgent groups like the FARC

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 3>and the e L have provided a significant counter veiling

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 3>force to them. And I wanted to note because one

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>of my sources is an article on Trindagua by America's

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Quarterly and in talking about their kind of troubled expansion

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 3>into Colombia, this article notes tellingly even in these spaces,

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 3>TDA operative subcontract smaller local gangs and authorize them to

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 3>use their name to generate fear in compliance with their victims.

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 3>And this is a really common thing with Trindaugua where

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 3>when you're seeing, oh this is you know, TDA affiliated

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 3>or whatnot, these guys may have no actual communication or

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 3>very much to do at all with the centralized group.

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>They're just kind of using the name for branding purposes

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 3>because it, you know, scares off other gangs because it

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 3>allows them to like act as if they're connected to

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 3>this larger organization, but they really are not in a

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 3>very meaningful way. In the same way a lot of

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 3>you'll see a lot of articles that'll be talking about

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 3>like these are trinda Agua tattoos, Like none of them

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 3>are actual like tattoos affiliated with the group. This is

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 3>like largely non sense because Trindagwa doesn't have a tattoo tradition.

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Per the people who are actually experts on Trindagha. There's

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of good articles, particularly in Insight Crime, Jeremy

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 3>McDermott being one of the authors that have tried to

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 3>bust a lot of these myths about TDA. We'll be

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 3>doing more coverage on them in the future. But like, yeah,

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of international shipments.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry locking jazz b Locky jazz bob Ah. That's good stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So nobody being murdered in cold blood to post

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 5>a video on x dot com the everything app in

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 5>this one, but.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Probably there it's its own fair share of harm.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So, at the end of last week, the official

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 5>like end of the Deminimus exemption for packages under eight

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars finally fully went into effect. We're going to

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 5>talk about this one next week when it's more clear

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 5>what the large scale ramifications of this are. We have

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 5>been talking about this for a very very long time.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 5>The other really big news this week, and this is

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 5>I think most of what's been going on here has

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 5>been the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the Federal

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 5>Circuit ruled that most of the tariffs that are in

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<v Speaker 5>effect are illegal. Now. The court also basically put in

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 5>a thing saying that this ruling doesn't go into effect

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 5>until October fourteenth, so that Trump can have time to appeal.

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 5>This is a Supreme Court. He's already appealing to the

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court trying to he wants a quote expedited ruling

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 5>from the Supreme Court. He started ranting about how if

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 5>the tariffs go back into effect are not allowed to

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 5>be in effect, the US will quote turn into a

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 5>third world country or may turn into a third world country.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, so not a third world country. Ah God,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 2>The American Centery of Humiliation continues to chug on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So okay, It actually is worth talking about this

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 5>case a little bit because it goes to the core

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 5>of what's been happening with these terrorists, which is that yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 5>So in the Constitution, if you read it, it says

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 5>that the power of taxes and tariffs lied with Congress.

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 5>It really explicitly says this I'm gonna read a thing

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 5>from the ruling. This is a quote from the ruling. Quote,

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 5>the Constitution grants Congress the power to quote lay and

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 5>collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, and to quote regulate

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 5>commerce with foreign nations. This is the constitutioned Article one,

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Action eight. And I'm going to stop here to note

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 5>that everything that's in the Bill of Rights was not

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 5>in the original draft of the Constitution that got tacked

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 5>on later. So like freedom of speech, and like freedom

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 5>of assembly, and like freedom of religion were considered less

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 5>important by the people writing this than Congress are the

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 5>only people who could do taxes. I'm going to keep

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 5>reading from this ruling. Tariffs are a tax, and the

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 5>framers of the Constitution expressly contemplated the exclusive granting of

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 5>taxing power to the legislative branch. When Patrick Henry expressed

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 5>concern that the president quote may easily become king debates

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 5>in several state conventions Jonathan Elliott eighteen thirty six, James

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Manison replied this would not occur because quote, the purse

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<v Speaker 5>is in the hand of the representatives of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I cannot believe that we have a president doing

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 2>a t tax for forign terrorists. I know, I know

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>where's Boston when you need it?

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Robert, do the voice? No, I'm not, I'm not your

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 3>fucking monk.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>This this is the only way to have to stop

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Robert from doing the voice is to try to get

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 2>him into the place because of oppositional defiance.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's what that's what rules.

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 5>Okay, speaking of what rules us, so Trump has been

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 5>using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and he like

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 5>declared a state of emergency over like drug trafficking in

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 5>order to do this. This is nonsense, gibberish. And this

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 5>is actually where I think this is a very very

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 5>significant part of this case here, which is like, Okay,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 5>what power does Trump actually have? Like can he continue

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 5>to just sort of rule the United States?

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Many people are asking questions, and I'm.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 5>Going to read this this this line from CNN, which

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 5>is quoting the court draft quote. Notably, when drafting the

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 5>International Emergency Economic Powers Act, Congress did not use the

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 5>term tariff or any of its synonyms like duty or tax.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 5>The Court said in its majority ruling. The absence of

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 5>any such teriff language in the Act contrasts with statutes

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 5>where Congress has affirmatively granted such powers and including clear

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 5>limit on that power. So this law do not say

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 5>that he could do this. He has simply been doing

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 5>this the whole time with using a law that it

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 5>literally explicitly does not say the word tariff in it.

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 5>So the court is extremely unhappy about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, we got them.

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 5>It really is. I think this is genuinely just on

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 5>a basic constitutional level, this is one of the most

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 5>staggering ones of these I've ever in terms of just

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 5>like does the Constitution still exist? The answer is eh, Like,

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 5>this is article one of the Constitution. It's article one.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 5>This is the first shit they wrote. This was like

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.919
<v Speaker 5>literally the whole point of the American Revolution was that

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 5>the king can't levy taxes. It has to be the

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 5>parliamentary representatives of the people. That's like the whole thing.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 5>It was that the slogan was no exactination without representation. Yes, yeah,

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 5>and like and like, obviously that's the stated goal of it.

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 5>You could obviously go and see her, right, there's like

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 5>a million other things. You can go into your territorial

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 5>expansion and go into your slavery blah blah blah blah.

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 5>But like this is what it was supposed to be about,

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 5>and has just claimed this power from himself, And we're

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 5>gonna get a real test in the Supreme Court. So

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 5>the Screme Court goes back from their recess in like

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 5>a month, so we're gonna probably get a real test

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 5>on how far the Supreme Court is willing to let

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 5>Trump just straight up rule by executive fiat. But in

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.399
<v Speaker 5>the meantime, all these terrorist are still in effect. And yeah,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 5>this has been tariff talk. We have talked about the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe that does it for us. You're at

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<v Speaker 2>it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everybody, until next time. You know, just if

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 3>anyone tells you the precedent is dead, assume they're telling

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the truth and go live your life.

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