Speaker 1: Cold Zone Media.
Speaker 2: No inappropriate joke Robert to start this episode, Wow, I
Speaker 2: feel so clean.
Speaker 3: You know. I guess you could say I have some
Speaker 3: executive dysfunction today.
Speaker 2: This is it could happen here executive disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the Crumpling world,
Speaker 2: what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. I'm
Speaker 2: joined by Mia Wong, Robert Evans, and possibly Sophie Lichterman,
Speaker 2: our producer. This episode, we are covering the week of
Speaker 2: August twenty eighth to September third, Happy fake Labor Day
Speaker 2: to everybody, and some breaking news from this past weekend.
Speaker 2: Trump maybe died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's check out on that. Garrison as our official,
Speaker 3: is the president a lie of correspondent?
Speaker 2: Let me do a quick at Google search here? Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: he's still around.
Speaker 3: Did everyone get tricked again?
Speaker 2: He's still okay?
Speaker 4: Like conspiracy theory is the week were really fun And
Speaker 4: then there was that thing that video that went viral
Speaker 4: of like them like opening a White House window and
Speaker 4: throwing out a couple of black trash bags.
Speaker 3: That really was really funny. That was really funny.
Speaker 4: I was like, there's way worse things going on in
Speaker 4: the world. I don't have time to care about this.
Speaker 4: But we never got information about that. That was just
Speaker 4: some weird shit.
Speaker 2: Not yet, not yet, Sophie sensational.
Speaker 3: I don't think we know what it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: it could just be that's them fucking cleaning shit. But
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they were destroying evidence.
Speaker 4: I wasn't aware those windows could open. I thought they
Speaker 4: were like bulletproof and and like weren't.
Speaker 2: Supposed to open.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they both bulletproof, but have to be possible
Speaker 3: to open so that the Secret Service has more paths
Speaker 3: of egress in the event that some crazy disaster were
Speaker 3: to befall the White House. Okay, well, you need to
Speaker 3: watch the documentary White House Down, Sophie. This spells all
Speaker 3: of that out.
Speaker 2: So Trump went a few days without a major public appearance.
Speaker 3: The man is just trying to take some time off.
Speaker 2: Though he was seen golfing between Saturday and one day,
Speaker 2: but there's nothing on Trump's public schedule for three days
Speaker 2: during Labor Day weekend, where he essentially took a brief
Speaker 2: gulfing holiday, and this fueled speculation that he was in
Speaker 2: a rapid health decline, spawning a whole bunch of conspiras,
Speaker 2: theories about him being in the hospital, Vance imminently taking over,
Speaker 2: and some comments from JD. Vance during a USA Today
Speaker 2: interview released last Thursday fueled some of this speculation. Over
Speaker 2: the weekend, Vance said, quote, I feel very confident the
Speaker 2: President of the United States is in good shape, is
Speaker 2: going to serve out the remainder of his term and
Speaker 2: do great things for the American people. And if God
Speaker 2: forbid there's a terrible tragedy, I can't think of better
Speaker 2: on the job training than what I've gotten over the
Speaker 2: last two hundred days unquote. It sounds like he's ready
Speaker 2: to take the reins right now.
Speaker 3: Sure, man, Yeah, you're trained up now.
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, people spread AI altered images of Trump's
Speaker 2: face looking more swollen and sickly than it actually was,
Speaker 2: and rumors circulated that roads to Walter Reed Medical Center
Speaker 2: were closed yeah, when in fact there were no irregular closures,
Speaker 2: and screenshots of maps supposedly showing these quote unquote closures
Speaker 2: were actually just showing old security gates because yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't just like walk or drive up to the front
Speaker 2: door of Walter Reed Medical Center. Yeah, it's in a
Speaker 2: military base.
Speaker 3: This is the ocent of idiots, right, which is people
Speaker 3: seeing something that is described as being one thing in
Speaker 3: this like little clip that they get of it in
Speaker 3: social media and they don't actually do any further check up.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with like the Pentagon pizza totally
Speaker 3: orders that people are like, ohh when pizza orders peeked
Speaker 3: the Pentagon, where about the US is about to go
Speaker 3: to war, and it's like no, Sometimes people just order
Speaker 3: pizza near the Pentagon because the Pentagon is surrounded by
Speaker 3: a city, right, there's like there's people.
Speaker 2: The Pentagon pizza tracker was part of these weekend conspiracy
Speaker 2: theories that you were like trying to decide how to
Speaker 2: handle Trump's declining health, and yes, people just like pizza guys.
Speaker 3: Like it's one of those things. I'm certainly not saying
Speaker 3: there's no way you will wake up tomorrow to hear
Speaker 3: that Trump has died, because you know what, he's seventy nine.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be weird if his health took a sudden
Speaker 3: turn in the next day. Just statistically, it wouldn't be
Speaker 3: weird because he's seventy nine. But like the people pointing
Speaker 3: out sy simile they were doing with Biden pointing out like, oh,
Speaker 3: like the marks on his hand, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that isn't it for both of them. This is evidence
Speaker 3: that they are older than you should be to be president.
Speaker 3: But like, my grandpa had shit like that, because my
Speaker 3: grandpa lived with us for the last like ten years
Speaker 3: of his life. His hands looked a lot like that
Speaker 3: for like a decade. Like, so people live for a
Speaker 3: long time. After it becomes clear that they're very sick
Speaker 3: and old, it's not a sign that they're about to
Speaker 3: kick off this weekend.
Speaker 2: That guy in Congress who looks like a turtle has
Speaker 2: had weird bruises on his body for as long as
Speaker 2: I can remember, Toddle, Yeah, but no, Like accounts were
Speaker 2: basically theorizing that like Putin poisoned Trump during their last meeting,
Speaker 2: and this is why he's in a rapid health decline.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, why.
Speaker 3: Why would he need to do that? Why would that
Speaker 3: benefit him?
Speaker 5: So baffling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when people noticed looking at the White House schedule,
Speaker 2: which they'd realized just existed a few days ago. But
Speaker 2: when looking on the schedule, they saw that quote unquote,
Speaker 2: the president was to give an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Because of this, rumor spread that it would be Trump
Speaker 2: resigning for health reasons or Vance would come out and
Speaker 2: announce Trump died and he was the president now like
Speaker 2: some like really bad Aaron Sory in movie. That's how
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 5: Also, I just want to also put this out there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that White House leaks like a fucking sieve. There is
Speaker 5: no way you could cover up the president dying without
Speaker 5: it being out immediately, Like come on.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, like you, they couldn't keep it hidden
Speaker 3: when he got sick. You think they're going to keep
Speaker 3: the fact that they're gonna weaken it Bernie's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when this press conference got delayed an hour on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: this too was used as the evidence of Trump's declining health.
Speaker 2: But sure enough, right before three pm, Trump came out
Speaker 2: with a huge gaggle of people, which is probably why
Speaker 2: it was delayed, because he had like twenty guys with
Speaker 2: him who, like multiple people spoke to announce that they
Speaker 2: were moving space command. And Trump seemed normal. He seemed
Speaker 2: like normal Trump, like he is an old guy, but no,
Speaker 2: this was just normal Trump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, does he seem older than he did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: Man, it's like were wrinkled.
Speaker 4: But like he's older exactly like he did before these
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he looks old, Like he looks older
Speaker 3: than he did ten years ago. Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: Oh, he's so much less coherent than then. But like, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's not like, yeah, dying.
Speaker 3: I don't have any particular reason to expect he's about
Speaker 3: to drop dead, like as opposed to like three months
Speaker 3: ago or six months ago, you know, yeah, like does
Speaker 3: it appear as if time is continuing to march on
Speaker 3: his face?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, you know exactly. During said press conference,
Speaker 2: Trump himself was asked about his alleged imminent demise and responded, like,
Speaker 2: this a.
Speaker 1: Really different but about a big viral social media trend
Speaker 1: over the weekend.
Speaker 3: How did you find out over the weekend that.
Speaker 6: You were dady?
Speaker 5: You see that? No, people didn't see it for a
Speaker 5: couple of days.
Speaker 3: One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning
Speaker 3: about your demise?
Speaker 7: Really, you know, I have heard it's sort of crazy.
Speaker 7: But last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful.
Speaker 7: They went very well, Like this is going very well,
Speaker 7: and then I didn't do any for two days, and
Speaker 7: they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden
Speaker 7: wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see him, and
Speaker 7: nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him.
Speaker 7: And we know he wasn't the greatest of shape.
Speaker 2: No, I heard that.
Speaker 7: I get reports. Now you knew. I'd did an interview
Speaker 7: that lasted for about an hour and a half with
Speaker 7: somebody and everybody. So that was on one of your competitors.
Speaker 5: That's a remarkably coherent Trump by Trump's standards.
Speaker 2: Like no, and he's talking about how he was sending
Speaker 2: out very pointiant truths over the weekend on truth So okay,
Speaker 2: that's for current Yeah, like and yeah, he just took
Speaker 2: a nice little golfing golfing holiday and like it is drue.
Speaker 2: He is the oldest elected president and the White House
Speaker 2: recently announced he was diagnosed with chronic venus and sufficiency
Speaker 2: a few months ago to explain his ankle swelling and
Speaker 2: the bruises on his right hand have become more noticeable,
Speaker 2: which the White House is attributed to frequent handshaking and
Speaker 2: the use of aspirin.
Speaker 3: That is really funny. Yeah, he shook too many hands.
Speaker 2: He just can't stop shaking hands.
Speaker 4: That's actually hilarious.
Speaker 2: But the aspirin thing is is real, and people of
Speaker 2: his age, frequent aspirin use can lead to bruising. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I just finished up my Blue and On research,
Speaker 2: and then this whole weekend as I was like literally
Speaker 2: finishing those episodes, this, this whole this whole giant wave
Speaker 2: of these like Trump health conspiracies just just completely took
Speaker 2: over and I felt like I was like losing it,
Speaker 2: like everyone around me, and everyone around me was indulging this,
Speaker 2: and like usually from this place of like half joking
Speaker 2: but not really joking. Like when yeah, when that line
Speaker 2: gets blurry between are you indulging in this like ironically
Speaker 2: because it's fun or does it is it actually kind
Speaker 2: of altering your brain? Like is it actually slowly making
Speaker 2: you convinced of this stuff? In like a small way.
Speaker 3: This gets to what is at the root of all
Speaker 3: conspiracy culture, regardless of like the political ideology, which is
Speaker 3: the need, the emotional need to believe that you are
Speaker 3: the possessor of secret knowledge. Yeah, right, like that that
Speaker 3: that is so much a part of this that like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm I am privy to secrets about the world that
Speaker 3: the average person is not, and the degree to which
Speaker 3: that's like comforting and also emotionally necessary for quite a
Speaker 3: few people. And that's part of the problem with humoring
Speaker 3: this is that the instant you let it into your life,
Speaker 3: it starts taking more and more power because it becomes
Speaker 3: part of your ego, It becomes part of your coping mechanisms.
Speaker 3: It becomes like yeah, something, but you become dependent upon it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's also word noting. Like, you know,
Speaker 5: people are confused all the time about how does the
Speaker 5: right come to believe all of these things? How does
Speaker 5: the right sort of you know, like, how does like
Speaker 5: vaccine conspiracism spread? How does like QAnon spread? It's like
Speaker 5: it spreads like this, right, this is what it looks like.
Speaker 5: And you're also not immune to it just because your
Speaker 5: politics are better. It's still really really easy to fall
Speaker 5: down those pathways because they're addictive and fun. And that's
Speaker 5: spreading so much unhinged shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the root of a lot of madness comes with
Speaker 3: thinking that you're better than other people and that you're
Speaker 3: not cognitively.
Speaker 2: I can play around with this stuff without it affecting me.
Speaker 2: The way to fix other people. M M yeah, or
Speaker 2: just because this is because the politics of this counter
Speaker 2: factual belief system are better than their counterfactual belief system.
Speaker 2: This is not a counterfactual belief system totally. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: like when we see this with the way some people
Speaker 2: talk about like Russia, and like, I've faced a little
Speaker 2: teeny bit of pushback on some of the ways that
Speaker 2: I was framing like Russia Gate in the Blue and
Speaker 2: on episodes, and like, there is a difference between a
Speaker 2: social media disinformation campaign to influence elections, which Russia does,
Speaker 2: Like we know.
Speaker 3: This absolutely, that's not in question whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference between that and like straightforwardly stealing
Speaker 2: an election in such a manner that the election results
Speaker 2: are themselves illegitimate.
Speaker 3: Right, And this is the big question always if you're saying, like, no,
Speaker 3: they literally did steal this election in the twenty sixteen election,
Speaker 3: then like, but they just like fucked up for twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: They just couldn't get their shit together in time for
Speaker 3: that one. Like what or is it that they have
Speaker 3: influence campaigns like everyone else and they're influence, Like that
Speaker 3: doesn't mean saying that they're not problems but it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean pretending that's the only reason shit broke their way.
Speaker 3: You know, in part, A big reason why things worked
Speaker 3: the way that they have and have worked the way
Speaker 3: that they have is that the disinfo campaigns that Russia,
Speaker 3: that the Russian government was engaged and were complementary to
Speaker 3: campaigns of disinformation that have existed for decades.
Speaker 2: And the US right look at the way they were
Speaker 2: funding right wing content creators through Tenet Media, right, And like,
Speaker 2: you know, same thing with Trump, Like publicly encouraging Russia
Speaker 2: is not the same thing as actual collusion. And there
Speaker 2: is no clear indication that the twenty sixteen Russian influenced
Speaker 2: operations or even like their accessing of voter registration actually
Speaker 2: made a meaningful impact on the results of the election.
Speaker 2: And this is the same thing with you know, like
Speaker 2: the rights legal methods of voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression or
Speaker 2: changing mail in voting rules. Right, there's that versus talking
Speaker 2: about like hacking voting machines. Right, the former doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that the election was quote unquote stolen. Now just because
Speaker 2: they do voter suppression, right, the results still need to
Speaker 2: be accepted, Like that's not illegal. Election interference. It's not good.
Speaker 2: We should oppose it. Yeah, but it's not a legal
Speaker 2: election interference. And like this is kind of just like
Speaker 2: a coping method that passes the buck to avoid accepting
Speaker 2: that Republicans were better at winning these elections. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it may be emotionally easier to like blame Russia than
Speaker 2: to actually like reflect on ourselves. And I've seen the
Speaker 2: same thing when people talking about how for the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four election, on election day there were bomb threats
Speaker 2: to swing state polling places that were traced back to Russia,
Speaker 2: and like, while this is nominally true, this did not
Speaker 2: influence the result of that election. And then this can
Speaker 2: very quickly devolve into like just like basically like just
Speaker 2: asking questions, right, like you can't prove a negative, and
Speaker 2: this just turns into like a very cartoon version of
Speaker 2: understanding reality, like with like people in ski masks fixing
Speaker 2: elections or changing votes, where like hackers compromising election like
Speaker 2: voting machines, instead of just accepting that a lot of
Speaker 2: people voted for Trump and he won well.
Speaker 3: And the part of the other problem is that I
Speaker 3: think when you lose yourself in patterns of thinking like this,
Speaker 3: it also leads to a failure to accurately gauge the
Speaker 3: strengths and the capacities of the enemy. Like if you're
Speaker 3: unwilling to see where they've made smart decisions and where
Speaker 3: they've made good investments that have paid off for them,
Speaker 3: then you are unable to follow and properly counter those
Speaker 3: kinds of things. And I think part of why this
Speaker 3: is so difficult is that so many people, so many
Speaker 3: liberals and people on the left. I don't think I
Speaker 3: think both sides have differences in how they do it,
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's a massive difference in the
Speaker 3: degree to which either side does it. But you find
Speaker 3: on both ends of the political spectrum this emotional need
Speaker 3: to be like, these people are idiots, And the corelating
Speaker 3: factor with that is that like, and I'm not right,
Speaker 3: Like I'm smarter because I'm not one of these people,
Speaker 3: because I'm not one of these like fools who buys
Speaker 3: into this right wing propaganda. And you're if you're more
Speaker 3: obsessed with that than you are with seeing where your
Speaker 3: enemy has made smart decisions, then you're going to continue
Speaker 3: getting dunked on by them endlessly. You gonna gain blindside,
Speaker 3: and that's that's where we are right now. People are
Speaker 3: getting dunked on repeatedly because they refuse to see the
Speaker 3: things that Trump does that are based in actual intelligence,
Speaker 3: and the things that the far right has done, the
Speaker 3: things the Republican Party is of the architects of this
Speaker 3: movement have done that have been successful. You know who
Speaker 3: else is successful?
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Speaker 2: So on Tuesday, the Mayor of DC ordered that the
Speaker 2: city will continue cooperating with the federal law enforcement pass
Speaker 2: the export date of Trump's Crime Emergency Declaration, which is
Speaker 2: set for September tenth. She has established the quote Safe
Speaker 2: and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center. She is for DC to
Speaker 2: indefinitely coordinate with Trump's Safe and Beautiful Task Force. This
Speaker 2: is like a caving and like an acquiescence to prevent
Speaker 2: some kind of larger legal fight over Trump's ability to
Speaker 2: exert power over DC. It's giving him a little bit
Speaker 2: of what he wants while trying to maintain a degree
Speaker 2: of sovereignty, but in doing so you kind of just
Speaker 2: play into what he actually wants. In the end. This
Speaker 2: operations center will work on quote centralized communications formulate post
Speaker 2: emergency planning and operations, and ensure coordination with federal LW
Speaker 2: enforcement to the maximum extent allowable by law within the district. Later,
Speaker 2: in her order, she quote unquote, requests that federal partners
Speaker 2: adhere to effective community policing practices to maintain community confidence
Speaker 2: in law enforcements, such as by not wearing masks, clearly
Speaker 2: identifying their agency, and providing identification during arrests and encounters
Speaker 2: with the public.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 2: Quote, the Safe and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center will continue
Speaker 2: to prioritize DC National Guard for typical mission focused activities unquote.
Speaker 2: So they are requesting that federal partners not wear masks,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of the strongest amount of pushback the
Speaker 2: mayor is allowing in regards to Trump's federal control of
Speaker 2: over law enforcement in DC.
Speaker 3: Great, that'll solve it, you know.
Speaker 5: A while back, I said that like, one of the
Speaker 5: most important sources of support that the Trump administration has
Speaker 5: is a bunch of the Democratic mayors and governors, and
Speaker 5: oh boy, is this one of them.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: However, it's worth noting that this has not been the
Speaker 5: response of all of the Democrat governors, and I think
Speaker 5: we're going to turn here towards the impending occupation of Chicago.
Speaker 5: So Trump has said that he is going to deploy
Speaker 5: the National Guard to Chicago, ostensibly also because of crime.
Speaker 5: As of two thirty two Pacific time on Wednesday, the third,
Speaker 5: we don't have a timeline for the National Guard deployment.
Speaker 5: That could change. The situation is evolving rapidly. We will
Speaker 5: get you more on a second. We also have conflicting
Speaker 5: reports where Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker has said that
Speaker 5: the Texas National Guard is being staged to sort of
Speaker 5: participate in the sort of occupation of Chicago. Gray Abbott
Speaker 5: has denied this. We sort of don't know what exactly
Speaker 5: is going on with that, but it is worth noting
Speaker 5: that both Governor Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson have
Speaker 5: been very very clear of that they do not want
Speaker 5: a federal deployment in Chicago. They have said go home.
Speaker 5: There isn't really because this is a federal deployment, There
Speaker 5: isn't really much they can do about it outside of
Speaker 5: legal stuff. And the Trump administration has been a lot
Speaker 5: more careful about this, and they were in La in
Speaker 5: terms of how they're doing the deployments legally, so we'll
Speaker 5: see what happens with the National Guard deployments. However, and
Speaker 5: this is something that I think is getting very very
Speaker 5: little coverage, which is that the actual threat model on
Speaker 5: the ground in Chicago, and the day this is going up,
Speaker 5: we will have run in an interview the day before
Speaker 5: with Raven who's a journalist from the Chicago based outlet
Speaker 5: Unraveled about what the response in Chicago has been to
Speaker 5: all of this, and how people are repairing and what
Speaker 5: the threat model is. The actual thing people are worried
Speaker 5: about in Chicago is not the National Guard so much.
Speaker 5: It is the deployment of federal agents from Homeland Security,
Speaker 5: including ICE in the Border patrol. Very very specifically, there
Speaker 5: is difificant concern about border pature because while there has
Speaker 5: been ICE operation in the city and that's obviously very bad,
Speaker 5: as we sort of talk about, there really hasn't been
Speaker 5: any significant border patrol deployments and that seems like it's
Speaker 5: about to start as an indication of how fast the
Speaker 5: situation is moving. So that interview was recorded Wednesday morning,
Speaker 5: September third, Yeah, September third. In the time between that
Speaker 5: recording and now, which was maybe three hours, we got
Speaker 5: more information about the federal deployment. So the Sun Times
Speaker 5: is reporting, based on reports from government officials, that two
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty agents, including Border Patrol, are being sent
Speaker 5: from LA to Chicago. Thirty agents are already here. They've
Speaker 5: been doing training in anti riot stuff with flash bangs.
Speaker 5: They've also apparently moved one hundred and forty unmarked vans
Speaker 5: to this naval base, not really in Chicago, we'll get
Speaker 5: to that seconds, but they've moved one hundred and forty
Speaker 5: on mark vans to do these kind of raids. This
Speaker 5: very much suggests that they're going to do the kind
Speaker 5: of smashing grab raids we've been seeing in LA. That's
Speaker 5: the thing people are very worried about. And we've seen
Speaker 5: you know, tiktoks from the senior leadership with the Border
Speaker 5: Patrol talking about how.
Speaker 3: Their talks I know, it's it's bleak.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, literally, it's like it's it's tick talks of
Speaker 5: him going like we're trading our palm trees for skyscrapers.
Speaker 5: Oh jeez, it's really bad. It seems like they're going
Speaker 5: to be deploying the kind of smashing grab raids they
Speaker 5: did in LA. But comment there's one final thing I
Speaker 5: want to get to. This naval base is not really
Speaker 5: in Chicago. It is really far north of Evanstone, which
Speaker 5: is like a thing that's like not Chicago's like this
Speaker 5: naval base that they're deploying from is closer to Kenosha
Speaker 5: than it is like Kenosha, Wisconsin, than it is to
Speaker 5: like even the north side of Chicago. It's like really
Speaker 5: really far north again, like even to I mean neighborhoods
Speaker 5: that are pretty far north. It's like an hour out right.
Speaker 5: It is a multiple hour drive into the center of
Speaker 5: the city, so it's going to be kind of difficult
Speaker 5: for them to deploy in the middle of the city.
Speaker 5: This is something I talked about with the raven It
Speaker 5: looks like they're trying to hit the more outlining areas
Speaker 5: more with raids because those areas are less well defended
Speaker 5: and there's not as much sort of rapid reaction stuff there.
Speaker 5: That's sort of what this looks like. People are preparing
Speaker 5: because I guess there's one more important thing, which is
Speaker 5: the naval base is where they're running their operations out of.
Speaker 5: But the naval base has declined the request to house them,
Speaker 5: so they're probably going to be in a hotel. Seople
Speaker 5: are going to target those, but yeah, that's where things
Speaker 5: are at as of Wednesday, they're staging in this weird
Speaker 5: naval base that is really not close to the city.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the real focus on this anti crime
Speaker 2: crackdown is also a way to like trojan horse slightly
Speaker 2: obscured ice operations. And when Joey cler are talking about
Speaker 2: like National Guard deployments to cities nationwide, the actual main
Speaker 2: mode that National Guard will be operating in is logistical
Speaker 2: and like like PaperWorks support for ICE operations. Yep, at
Speaker 2: least for these like broader nationwide deployments. With these specific
Speaker 2: deployment in DC and in Chicago, there's there's more preparation
Speaker 2: for like carrying out ordinary law enforcement actions. But those
Speaker 2: actions also exist in coordination with immigration crackdowns, and like
Speaker 2: that's a lot of what these like more militarized occupations
Speaker 2: are going to be focused on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's worth noting like just logistically, like they're
Speaker 5: not going to be sending the Guard into the parts
Speaker 5: of Chicago where there like are is crime sometimes with
Speaker 5: though again it's worth noting crime rates that weighed fuck down. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but also like every story about this is like, oh,
Speaker 5: there were shootings over the weekend, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not good, but like the actional Guard is not
Speaker 5: going to be deployed to stop shootings. They literally can't
Speaker 5: get there again, It's like, no, three hours out.
Speaker 3: No, they can't get to the north side of Chicago.
Speaker 3: And as as we all know from the song Bad
Speaker 3: Bad Lee broy Brown, the south side of Chicago is
Speaker 3: the baddest part of town.
Speaker 5: Jesus Christ, I'm just gonna ignore that.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, yeah, you should just ignore that.
Speaker 5: There are places in Norset that they could deploy. But
Speaker 5: if you're trying to get to the actual south side,
Speaker 5: it is at least a three hour drive. And that's
Speaker 5: like assuming that, like the traffic isn't bad, Like it's
Speaker 5: at least three hours. It's possibly larger than that. I
Speaker 5: I didn't even bother checking it because I looked at
Speaker 5: where this was and I was like, this is basically
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin, what are we doing here? So like this
Speaker 5: is you know, this is this is GZ Garrison was saying,
Speaker 5: this is a this is a giant show of force thing,
Speaker 5: and it's but it's mostly just this is the sort
Speaker 5: of shock and all thing to frame this as crime
Speaker 5: so that people aren't focusing on obviously, like it's bad
Speaker 5: having just like troops in the streets, but like the
Speaker 5: ice enforcement and the border patrol deployment is what the
Speaker 5: actual threat is here.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and like yeah, Depentagon and the Trump admen
Speaker 2: are planning a lot of different scenarios that they would
Speaker 2: like to enact. But Trump's actual comments on like a
Speaker 2: larger like military style deployment to Chicago had been a
Speaker 2: little bit flip floppy. I think they're still trying to
Speaker 2: reach some kind of deal to like work with the
Speaker 2: local government and state governments in a way that is
Speaker 2: less bombastic than like a like a completely like adversarial
Speaker 2: deployment would be. Even that that press conference where the
Speaker 2: shambling corpse of Trump made an appearance, his his his
Speaker 2: comments about the possibility of the point of to Chicago
Speaker 2: is seemed still pretty exploratory, Like there's still there's still
Speaker 2: like conversations being had about how to actually do this.
Speaker 2: They they are not as as brazen as what they
Speaker 2: were in LA and they don't have as much justification
Speaker 2: to do what they did in DC to a city
Speaker 2: like Chicago. So they're still trying to work out some
Speaker 2: kind of deal with like the local governments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's really unclear to me that they're going
Speaker 5: to be able to reach a deal with Brandon Johnson
Speaker 5: and with Pritzker, who's leading it.
Speaker 2: It seems that Brandon Johnson's less willing to work with
Speaker 2: Trump on this than the mayor of DC, So props
Speaker 2: to him for that, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is also a thing where Brandon Johnson
Speaker 5: is like very deeply unpopular in Chicago. However, actual federal
Speaker 5: deployment there is so unpopular that you have you have
Speaker 5: the fact that The Sun Times is pointing out in
Speaker 5: the reporting of this that crime rates are down, which
Speaker 5: they have never done, like ever, That's not a thing
Speaker 5: they ever talk about. It's so unpopular that there is
Speaker 5: really really significant pressure on both Pritzker and Johnson not
Speaker 5: to do this, and you know, maybe they cave. I
Speaker 5: have a kind of low opinion of them from like
Speaker 5: my time in the city doing politics there, But I
Speaker 5: don't think they're going to cave on this, No, And
Speaker 5: I think what that means is that it's mostly going
Speaker 5: to be the homeland security like ice border patrol deployments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guesse. Chicago does fall into our very loose definition
Speaker 2: of like a border town.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, yes, which most towns are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Speaking of JB. Pritzker, I mean he has a lot
Speaker 3: of corporate interests. He may have stock in one of
Speaker 3: the companies advertising on our show. We have no way
Speaker 3: of knowing we're back.
Speaker 2: I just got a text from JB. Pritsker. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I was recruiting for the private people's militia to defend
Speaker 2: the free municipality of Chicago.
Speaker 3: So he's recruiting horse archers for the cop Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to loose twelve arrows a
Speaker 3: minute from the back of a war pony in order
Speaker 3: to in order to make the make the cut.
Speaker 5: Protesters did shoot arrows at the cops at Hong Kong,
Speaker 5: so it's not it's not without precedent.
Speaker 3: Yes they did. Yes, they did at the university. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, if Florida National Guard deploys to Illinois,
Speaker 2: they may be able to use biological warfare because the
Speaker 2: Florida Surgeon General has just vowed to end all of
Speaker 2: the state's vaccine mandates, equating them with slavery. Not just
Speaker 2: the COVID mandates, all vaccine mandates across this state. After
Speaker 2: he announced this, he got like over thirty seconds of applause,
Speaker 2: like NonStop. I will play a little bit of the
Speaker 2: end of this announcement.
Speaker 8: Every last one of them is wrong and drips with
Speaker 8: disdain and slavery. Okay, who am I as a government
Speaker 8: or anyone else, or who am I as a man
Speaker 8: standing here now.
Speaker 3: To tell you what you should put in your body?
Speaker 8: Who am I to tell you what your child should
Speaker 8: put in your body?
Speaker 3: I don't have that right.
Speaker 8: Your body, your body.
Speaker 3: Is a gift from God.
Speaker 2: You really wanted to say, your body your choice.
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 8: What you put into your body is because of your relationship.
Speaker 3: With your body and your God. I don't have that right.
Speaker 5: Oh really, Oh really? Oh wow, unless it's trans healthcare,
Speaker 5: in which case you simply cannot.
Speaker 2: A little on the nose there.
Speaker 6: God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frankly wild. Yeah, motherfucker. It's like it's like
Speaker 2: that commercial that was.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you might be too young for this.
Speaker 4: Kuess there's this commercial with this this old man with
Speaker 4: like a dollar on a fishing rod.
Speaker 2: Going you almost got it. It's literally that it's literally
Speaker 2: that no very close into walking into a full body
Speaker 2: autonomy argument there, even though you know, for reproductive healthcare
Speaker 2: that is unrelated to general public health, which is why
Speaker 2: these mandates exist, which can affect people besides you.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh, Ron Santas announced and during the same press conference
Speaker 2: the creation of a Florida's own Make America Healthy Again Commission,
Speaker 2: which will enforce Robert F. Kennedy's policies to the fullest
Speaker 2: extent in their state.
Speaker 4: Grand he was the least charismatic person we saw speak
Speaker 4: at the RNC last year, just saying yeah, DeSantis. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, no, no, who was worse?
Speaker 2: JT Vance?
Speaker 3: YEA Advance was there.
Speaker 2: That lady did fall asleep.
Speaker 3: Man and people people were outwardly contemptuous of Vans at
Speaker 3: the RNC, like like Republicans were contemptuous. But remember the
Speaker 3: women for trouble, A.
Speaker 2: Woman who fell asleep next to us while watching the
Speaker 2: Dvance speech and then mouth he's so dry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was really good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I would say DeSantis is a solid number two,
Speaker 4: maybe Abbot three, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe they should have got a vaccine to boost their
Speaker 2: boost their charismas dats.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's how that works, lax or.
Speaker 2: So this is really dangerous. This is going to put
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of kids in harm's way. Yeah, worrying trend.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about Ukraine. Ukraine
Speaker 3: specifically kind of the present situation of the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 3: Just kind of another little update because people catch little
Speaker 3: bits here and there on the news about what's happening,
Speaker 3: and I felt like we should probably update people as
Speaker 3: to what's been going on. Kind of the most recent
Speaker 3: news you've probably heard is that Russian forces have been
Speaker 3: advancing in the Dnetsk Oblast and recently broke into an
Speaker 3: eighth region of Ukraine and started taking villages in the
Speaker 3: d naipro Petrovsk region, which is like a major industrial
Speaker 3: center that's next to the Dnet region, where Russian soldiers
Speaker 3: had not been recently. At this point, gains in this
Speaker 3: new region by Russia have been seemed to be fairly minimal.
Speaker 3: They've entered two villages in the eastern part of the region.
Speaker 3: The Russian Defense Ministry claims that they captured both of
Speaker 3: the villages. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has said, well, they're
Speaker 3: in the area and they're basically contesting them, but they
Speaker 3: haven't entrenched or built fortifications. Like fighting is ongoing. I'm
Speaker 3: sure neither country is giving out perfectly accurate data, but
Speaker 3: it seems certainly fair to say and verifiable to say
Speaker 3: that Russian has made an incursion into this region and
Speaker 3: the fighting is ongoing. However solid their gains may or
Speaker 3: may not be. This is not the entirety of what's
Speaker 3: going on in the conflict overall. Basically, the whole line
Speaker 3: of contact with Russia, which is about one thousand miles long,
Speaker 3: is in play at the moment, but there have not
Speaker 3: been like massive gains over the last couple of months,
Speaker 3: and in fact, as of August of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: Russian forces occupied about nineteen percent of Ukrainian territory. They
Speaker 3: first hit nineteen percent back in October of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: right before Ukrainian forces liberated a large chunk of the
Speaker 3: Kersan Oblast. So basically what we're seeing here is Russian
Speaker 3: forces reached this peak like three years ago, a Ukrainian
Speaker 3: counter offensive pushed them back, and over the last three
Speaker 3: years Russian forces have kind of clawed their way back
Speaker 3: to where they were near the end of twenty twenty two, right,
Speaker 3: if you're looking for, like what is the overall progress
Speaker 3: of this war over the last three years, So that's
Speaker 3: obviously not going well for Ukraine, but it's also not
Speaker 3: This is not a situation where Ukrainian forces are in
Speaker 3: any kind of collapse like you're looking at. It took
Speaker 3: Russia three years to get back to where they were
Speaker 3: three years ago, so this is I mean, this continues
Speaker 3: to be a grinding and hideous conflict, but it does
Speaker 3: not look like one at which the end is in
Speaker 3: any way in sight. Still, even with the kind of
Speaker 3: pulling of support from the US of Ukraine, with a
Speaker 3: reduction in arm shipments and whatnot from the United States
Speaker 3: to Ukraine, there's not any signs of like a generalized collapse.
Speaker 3: And in fact, over the last couple of years there's
Speaker 3: been a fairly minimal increase in occupied territory. Right now,
Speaker 3: the pace of Russia's advance in Ukraine, per a recent
Speaker 3: AP article, has slowed by eighteen percent just over the
Speaker 3: month of August. So Russian forces took about four hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty kilometers of territory in August and had been
Speaker 3: seizing more like five six hundred square kilometers of territory
Speaker 3: a month in the couple of months prior to that,
Speaker 3: So that's kind of what you're looking at in terms
Speaker 3: of the overall pace of the conflict. One of the
Speaker 3: major changes that we've seen over the last like really
Speaker 3: specifically like a couple of quarters in the conflict is
Speaker 3: Ukraine has been increasing their capacity to hit Russian strategic
Speaker 3: targets behind the line, like well behind the line, we're
Speaker 3: talking fuel and we're talking power infrastructure, which has been
Speaker 3: extremely successful. One of the things that's allowed Ukraine to
Speaker 3: hit these further back targets has been they've they've started
Speaker 3: producing an indigenous style of cruise missile code named the Flamingo,
Speaker 3: which has an eleven hundred almost twelve hundred kilogram warhead
Speaker 3: and a three thousand kilometer range, which puts it about
Speaker 3: one thousand kilometers past kind of the maximum range the
Speaker 3: one way attack drones like these one way suicide UAVs,
Speaker 3: which had been Ukraine's like furthest in way to strike
Speaker 3: Russian territory, those only reached in about two thousand kilometers,
Speaker 3: So this puts a significant amount of like Russia's infrastructure,
Speaker 3: within Ukraine's ability to target they're currently producing. I think
Speaker 3: that they're hoping to get up to by the end
Speaker 3: of the year, seven missiles a day by October. Now,
Speaker 3: these new cruise missiles are fairly easy to shoot down
Speaker 3: with like modern air defenses, but modern air defenses are
Speaker 3: in short supply, so it's a matter of if you're
Speaker 3: able to produce an increasing number of these and you're
Speaker 3: fleeing as many of them as you can out every day,
Speaker 3: the Russians will have to make choices in terms of
Speaker 3: what infrastructure are we actually going to devote anti missile
Speaker 3: assets towards, and you know that's always going to be
Speaker 3: less than the total number of targets there are to hit,
Speaker 3: and the in terms of evidence that these strikes have
Speaker 3: been successful, there has been increasing limitations on personal fuel
Speaker 3: use inside the Russian Federation and increasing power outages, like
Speaker 3: all of that has gotten more common over even just
Speaker 3: like the last several months in particular, So kind of overall,
Speaker 3: what we see if we're looking at this conflict is
Speaker 3: a grinding, high casualty endeavor where the Russians are slowly
Speaker 3: pushing back Ukrainian lines at the cost of a pretty
Speaker 3: nightmarish number of casualties. Right, Like, this is still a
Speaker 3: meat grinder conflict, and that dimension on the ground for
Speaker 3: the Russians hasn't changed. The main thing that has changed
Speaker 3: is Ukraine has gotten better at striking behind the line,
Speaker 3: which has been met by a significant acceleration in Russian strikes,
Speaker 3: particularly even on like civilian assets in Ukraine. Like, there
Speaker 3: have been more missile campaigns, more drone bombardment campaigns on
Speaker 3: the capitol and civilian targets than previously. Like some of
Speaker 3: the largest raids just took place three or four days ago.
Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of a broad update as to
Speaker 3: what's going on. It continues to be a very ugly war.
Speaker 3: One of the main things that we've learned about what
Speaker 3: modern warfare is going to look like is that it
Speaker 3: is almost impossible for infantry forces without air supremacy to
Speaker 3: break and make large advances and then hold that territory
Speaker 3: if they do not have air supremacy. When you're looking
Speaker 3: at two peer combatants, that's almost impossible to do. And
Speaker 3: so a significant amount of the fighting devolves into who
Speaker 3: can fling drones and missiles behind the lines and hit
Speaker 3: different sort of strategic assets with more efficacy, And that's
Speaker 3: what the war has bogged down to at this stage.
Speaker 2: Speaking of aerial strikes, do we want to at least
Speaker 2: reference attack on the Venezuelan alleged drug smuggling vessel that
Speaker 2: was announced during Trump's death press conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we blew up a boat. We did a boat
Speaker 3: in international water that was claimed to be a trend
Speaker 3: to Agua, which is a Venezuelan kind of analogous to
Speaker 3: a cartel organized criminal organization.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest boogeyman's of the second Trump term.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're primary, like Latin American boogeyman, and yeah, we
Speaker 3: blew them up. The administration is claiming it was, you know,
Speaker 3: filled with fentanyl or whatever. I don't believe there's as
Speaker 3: of yet any independent evidence that this boat was in
Speaker 3: any way affiliated with Trindagua or carrying drugs or headed
Speaker 3: to the United States. We simply don't know a lot
Speaker 3: of times, like just the way that trinda Ogwa works,
Speaker 3: This is not like the Sinaloa cartel. This is not
Speaker 3: a cartel that has a massive degree of international capacity
Speaker 3: that extends to the United States. Like there's even significant
Speaker 3: debate as to how much they are extended into other
Speaker 3: parts of Latin America, they've had like really limited success
Speaker 3: expanding into Colombia because different insurgent groups like the FARC
Speaker 3: and the e L have provided a significant counter veiling
Speaker 3: force to them. And I wanted to note because one
Speaker 3: of my sources is an article on Trindagua by America's
Speaker 3: Quarterly and in talking about their kind of troubled expansion
Speaker 3: into Colombia, this article notes tellingly even in these spaces,
Speaker 3: TDA operative subcontract smaller local gangs and authorize them to
Speaker 3: use their name to generate fear in compliance with their victims.
Speaker 3: And this is a really common thing with Trindaugua where
Speaker 3: when you're seeing, oh this is you know, TDA affiliated
Speaker 3: or whatnot, these guys may have no actual communication or
Speaker 3: very much to do at all with the centralized group.
Speaker 3: They're just kind of using the name for branding purposes
Speaker 3: because it, you know, scares off other gangs because it
Speaker 3: allows them to like act as if they're connected to
Speaker 3: this larger organization, but they really are not in a
Speaker 3: very meaningful way. In the same way a lot of
Speaker 3: you'll see a lot of articles that'll be talking about
Speaker 3: like these are trinda Agua tattoos, Like none of them
Speaker 3: are actual like tattoos affiliated with the group. This is
Speaker 3: like largely non sense because Trindagwa doesn't have a tattoo tradition.
Speaker 3: Per the people who are actually experts on Trindagha. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of good articles, particularly in Insight Crime, Jeremy
Speaker 3: McDermott being one of the authors that have tried to
Speaker 3: bust a lot of these myths about TDA. We'll be
Speaker 3: doing more coverage on them in the future. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of the situation.
Speaker 2: Speaking of international shipments.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So nobody being murdered in cold blood to post
Speaker 5: a video on x dot com the everything app in
Speaker 5: this one, but.
Speaker 2: Probably there it's its own fair share of harm.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, at the end of last week, the official
Speaker 5: like end of the Deminimus exemption for packages under eight
Speaker 5: hundred dollars finally fully went into effect. We're going to
Speaker 5: talk about this one next week when it's more clear
Speaker 5: what the large scale ramifications of this are. We have
Speaker 5: been talking about this for a very very long time.
Speaker 5: The other really big news this week, and this is
Speaker 5: I think most of what's been going on here has
Speaker 5: been the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the Federal
Speaker 5: Circuit ruled that most of the tariffs that are in
Speaker 5: effect are illegal. Now. The court also basically put in
Speaker 5: a thing saying that this ruling doesn't go into effect
Speaker 5: until October fourteenth, so that Trump can have time to appeal.
Speaker 5: This is a Supreme Court. He's already appealing to the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court trying to he wants a quote expedited ruling
Speaker 5: from the Supreme Court. He started ranting about how if
Speaker 5: the tariffs go back into effect are not allowed to
Speaker 5: be in effect, the US will quote turn into a
Speaker 5: third world country or may turn into a third world country.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, so not a third world country. Ah God,
Speaker 2: The American Centery of Humiliation continues to chug on.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So okay, It actually is worth talking about this
Speaker 5: case a little bit because it goes to the core
Speaker 5: of what's been happening with these terrorists, which is that yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: So in the Constitution, if you read it, it says
Speaker 5: that the power of taxes and tariffs lied with Congress.
Speaker 5: It really explicitly says this I'm gonna read a thing
Speaker 5: from the ruling. This is a quote from the ruling. Quote,
Speaker 5: the Constitution grants Congress the power to quote lay and
Speaker 5: collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, and to quote regulate
Speaker 5: commerce with foreign nations. This is the constitutioned Article one,
Speaker 5: Action eight. And I'm going to stop here to note
Speaker 5: that everything that's in the Bill of Rights was not
Speaker 5: in the original draft of the Constitution that got tacked
Speaker 5: on later. So like freedom of speech, and like freedom
Speaker 5: of assembly, and like freedom of religion were considered less
Speaker 5: important by the people writing this than Congress are the
Speaker 5: only people who could do taxes. I'm going to keep
Speaker 5: reading from this ruling. Tariffs are a tax, and the
Speaker 5: framers of the Constitution expressly contemplated the exclusive granting of
Speaker 5: taxing power to the legislative branch. When Patrick Henry expressed
Speaker 5: concern that the president quote may easily become king debates
Speaker 5: in several state conventions Jonathan Elliott eighteen thirty six, James
Speaker 5: Manison replied this would not occur because quote, the purse
Speaker 5: is in the hand of the representatives of the people.
Speaker 2: So I cannot believe that we have a president doing
Speaker 2: a t tax for forign terrorists. I know, I know
Speaker 2: where's Boston when you need it?
Speaker 3: Robert, do the voice? No, I'm not, I'm not your
Speaker 3: fucking monk.
Speaker 2: This this is the only way to have to stop
Speaker 2: Robert from doing the voice is to try to get
Speaker 2: him into the place because of oppositional defiance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what that's what rules.
Speaker 5: Okay, speaking of what rules us, so Trump has been
Speaker 5: using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and he like
Speaker 5: declared a state of emergency over like drug trafficking in
Speaker 5: order to do this. This is nonsense, gibberish. And this
Speaker 5: is actually where I think this is a very very
Speaker 5: significant part of this case here, which is like, Okay,
Speaker 5: what power does Trump actually have? Like can he continue
Speaker 5: to just sort of rule the United States?
Speaker 2: Many people are asking questions, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to read this this this line from CNN, which
Speaker 5: is quoting the court draft quote. Notably, when drafting the
Speaker 5: International Emergency Economic Powers Act, Congress did not use the
Speaker 5: term tariff or any of its synonyms like duty or tax.
Speaker 5: The Court said in its majority ruling. The absence of
Speaker 5: any such teriff language in the Act contrasts with statutes
Speaker 5: where Congress has affirmatively granted such powers and including clear
Speaker 5: limit on that power. So this law do not say
Speaker 5: that he could do this. He has simply been doing
Speaker 5: this the whole time with using a law that it
Speaker 5: literally explicitly does not say the word tariff in it.
Speaker 5: So the court is extremely unhappy about this.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we got them.
Speaker 5: It really is. I think this is genuinely just on
Speaker 5: a basic constitutional level, this is one of the most
Speaker 5: staggering ones of these I've ever in terms of just
Speaker 5: like does the Constitution still exist? The answer is eh, Like,
Speaker 5: this is article one of the Constitution. It's article one.
Speaker 5: This is the first shit they wrote. This was like
Speaker 5: literally the whole point of the American Revolution was that
Speaker 5: the king can't levy taxes. It has to be the
Speaker 5: parliamentary representatives of the people. That's like the whole thing.
Speaker 5: It was that the slogan was no exactination without representation. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: and like and like, obviously that's the stated goal of it.
Speaker 5: You could obviously go and see her, right, there's like
Speaker 5: a million other things. You can go into your territorial
Speaker 5: expansion and go into your slavery blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: But like this is what it was supposed to be about,
Speaker 5: and has just claimed this power from himself, And we're
Speaker 5: gonna get a real test in the Supreme Court. So
Speaker 5: the Screme Court goes back from their recess in like
Speaker 5: a month, so we're gonna probably get a real test
Speaker 5: on how far the Supreme Court is willing to let
Speaker 5: Trump just straight up rule by executive fiat. But in
Speaker 5: the meantime, all these terrorist are still in effect. And yeah,
Speaker 5: this has been tariff talk. We have talked about the tariffs.
Speaker 3: Excellent.
Speaker 2: Well, I believe that does it for us. You're at
Speaker 2: it could happen here.
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Speaker 3: anyone tells you the precedent is dead, assume they're telling
Speaker 3: the truth and go live your life.
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