1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with Justin Mattabique and Justin, should 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: I injure you as a d tackle or edge now 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: now you're you're past rushing on point from that edge? 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd just say d linman, like anywhere on the 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: on the line, nose tackle and yeah, wherever Michael wants 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: to put me on, I think I can get to work. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, you are your feasting this year, already on pace 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: for double digit sacks already, and uh, I do kind 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: of want to start there. It's just been you know, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: obviously a big game against the Titans in London, and 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch your tape. Man, like you 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: you were eating over there. It was fish and chips 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: just all day. What is it that you feel like 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: has really gotten you off to this hot start? 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: I think just like the work I put in the 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: off season and also just being in good team like 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: chemistry with just linebackers and the defensive tackles be on 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: the same point in terms of like games and stuff 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: like that, and then believe it in me as well. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Just I feel like it's helped me flourish and stuff 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: like that. But you know, I just always feel like 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: nothing is like good enough. I can always get better, 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: like on the edge and stuff like that. I'm acting 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: dot fait for pointers droppings, you know what I'm saying. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm not accustomed to playing that position, so I'm just 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: trying to just get better at every like place I'm 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: in the D line. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, so he the point in terms of you 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: being on the edge. You got a sack from the 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: edge spot in this game, and so they're moving you 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: all over the place. Like what was your when when 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: they said, all right, we're gonna try this thing out. 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna put you at the edge spot here for 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, a play or series of plays. 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: Well, he's been doing it's yeah the first time. You know, 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: you did it last game. 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it in the Texans game too. 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: When they first came to you and they were like, 40 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna just try this out and put 41 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: you here in that spot. You'll be up against kind 42 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: of the tackle in this role. Like what did you think? 43 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't something that I've done for the first time. 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Like in college I did that too. I didn't get 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: like a lot of sacks on the edge in college, 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: like they're more like a contained rush, you know. I'm saying, 47 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: like like fall back if you're past the quarterback and 48 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: stuff like that. But now I think it's just fun 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: because it's something that I haven't done, Like this is 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: not my first time doing it, and I feel like 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: more more confident. Like all my boys gave me points 52 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like angles and stuff on the 53 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: edge is really about angle. When that tight ends there, 54 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm just like it's about to chip the freaking hell out. 55 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go for that. So yeah, I 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: feel like I'm getting more confident as it goes on. 57 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: And it looked like on that sack he kind of 58 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: gave him like a little heavy and then power. 59 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about breakdown that side. 61 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. Like when we were on the plane back, 62 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: we'realking just laughing, like just so funny. I was like, 63 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: what's so funny. It's like this dude right here tried 64 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: to fake speed and just went straight power like the 65 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: way it look But yeah, I was just I was 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: on the edge and like if you really see the play, 67 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: like I was supposed to be a three, but Kyle, 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: he pushed me out there. He's like, I just rushing that. 69 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, bet im just like what 70 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: am I gonna do? Because I had a plan for 71 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: the guard? Yeah, I just came up the ball lace. 72 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I just stuttered and I got him 73 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, but that that works. 74 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: That's I can add to my arsenal. 75 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: So now the sack celebration I've been noticing has just 76 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: been the classic the flex. 77 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah are you working on it? Are you work shopping anything? Yeah? 78 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know yeah, I mean we're just talking about that. 79 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: He's like, you need to make something better. I'm just like, yeah, no, 80 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of it. He's like, okay, okay, I 81 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: don't worry about it. I was like, as at least 82 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: your words just keep on. But yeah, you know, I 83 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: need to definitely make something. But flex is just so natural, 84 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: like I just get up and just like yeah, yeah, 85 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: well like that it's boom yeah yeah. 86 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: Well you're getting so many sacks now, four and a 87 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 3: half this year so far, so like you kind of 88 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: need to mix it up, right. I Mean it's like 89 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: it's you get the flex works if you're getting a 90 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: few of them. Now you're getting so many of them. 91 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: You're on page Okay, keep it fresh. You gotta keep 92 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: it fresh. 93 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of something. It's gonna be clean. Trust, Trust's 94 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: gonna be clean. No. 95 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: So like in terms of like just I want to 96 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: stick on that past rush a little bit because it's 97 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: been impressive just to see the way that you have 98 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: developed in that regard, Like and I remember even when 99 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: the Ravens first drafted you, like that was an element 100 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: of your game, and it's just like what stands out 101 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: to me, it's really you as a player overall, but 102 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: I think it's really shows in the pass rush department, 103 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: like you've just gotten better every year, Like you just 104 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: continue to improve every single season and we're and we're 105 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: seeing that again this season. 106 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: Why do you think that is? 107 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: And what is it about your ability as a pass 108 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: rusher that has kind of gone to another level this year. 109 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: It's a good question, I'd say, Like I think it's 110 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: like my inner hunger just to get better, like my 111 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: inner like willingness to like call justin Houston or even 112 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Chuck or any of these guys that I know are 113 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: really really good at what they do in terms of 114 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: past rush, like to ask questions, to ask detailed questions, 115 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: write notes down like I'm doing all that, Like I'm 116 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: putting pride to the side, calling up whoever I know 117 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: that can get me better. I'm asking silly questions, real questions, 118 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: like I'm not afraid to ask a dumb question. I'm 119 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: just trying to find a way to just to get better. 120 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: I feel like that's first. I feel like that's just 121 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: the internal and then the external is me just like 122 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: obviously getting right with Scott in the weight room, you know, 123 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: I mean tuning up things in terms of pastors, when 124 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: in terms of like on the dots outside of the field. 125 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: So I feel like all that comes together and you 126 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: just get good product when it comes to Sundays. 127 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: So, so you called justin Houston. Who are the guys 128 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: that you've called? 129 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: And I kind of want to hear an example of 130 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: the questions that you're asking include the dumb questions. 131 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm kind of curious someone who knows the thing you 132 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: hear that dumb question. 133 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: Very funny. I can't really think on top of my 134 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: head the dumb question I asked. But I don't know, 135 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: like I'll be like, hey, Justin, bro when you're like 136 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: trying to like snatch him and like, do you worry 137 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: about your like your neque collabsence of ill just ask 138 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: questions like that because I'm a heavier guy, so like 139 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I got to make sure 140 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: like I'm on point when my angles and stuff like. 141 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: He's like, Noah, I don't worry about that, brother, Just 142 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: like you bring him to your pocket, like when you 143 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: snatch them, bring them to your pocket. So he's gonna 144 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: be right here so you can be clear. So just 145 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: stuff like that. I'm just like trying to like not 146 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: not only take notes of it, remember and actually apply 147 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: it in practice and practice and works in practice. I 148 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: have more confidence when it comes to game. 149 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 4: That's cool. 150 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: And then you cool that you just justing now like 151 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 5: this season you're talking to Justice. 152 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 153 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: I texted him like like three weeks ago. I was like, hey, man, 154 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: what do you eat before the game? Like it gives 155 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: you the best feel. He's like night games or like 156 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: noon games, and he gave me my category and all 157 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: this stuff. Like I'm writing his down, I'm sending to 158 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: the DAFE to him. Bro, We're like we're trying to 159 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: feast man, Like this is our year. I just feel it, 160 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: you know what. I mean, but just one day at 161 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: a time and just being able to be willing to 162 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: just ask questions, to be hungry and just be stepfast. 163 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: Really do you do you still talk to Klais at all? 164 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: I know he was a big mentor for you. 165 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: I call Kay has called me. I had an answer, 166 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: but I called him back a week ago. So yeah, 167 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: we still keep in touch. I want to talk like 168 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: all the time, Like when he was here. Yeah, I 169 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: just I just saw him get his one hundred second 170 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: everybody throwing him up right now. I'm gonna wait a 171 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: little bit, like, hey, bro, I'm singing that congrats. You 172 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But yeah, he was definitely a 173 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: guy that you know. I mean, I asked a lot 174 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: of question as well. Yeah. Him. 175 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: So one thing I would ask you about is Mike 176 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: McDonald and is in his defense, especially up front, it 177 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: seems like he does run games and stunts with like everybody, 178 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: you know, like Mike Pierce gets you know, they're clearing 179 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: out defenders for Michael Pierce, the nose tackle. 180 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: You don't usually see that. 181 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: How how does that affect the mindset of defensive lineman 182 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: when you know Mike's gonna scheme up everybody to get 183 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: their shots. 184 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, Mike is really really good at what 185 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: he does. Like we were talking about this the other day. 186 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: He's like a wizard and comes to just defensive schemes 187 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: and just putting us some positions to be successful and 188 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: just uh, he got Mike cutting loose, meat, cutting loose, 189 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: off cutting loose, everybody cutting loose and just uh, everybody 190 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: doing their one or eleven. If everybody doing their job 191 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: is what makes it work, you know what I mean, 192 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: It's not just him. Kong gets him calling and everybody 193 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: being on the same page, right, executing like to a t. 194 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: So sure, Mike's really really good at that. 195 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: So I'm curious how it helps. 196 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: Like, the thing that's unique in some regards about your 197 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: defense in terms of the pass rush, is that it 198 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: can be a different guy every game. Like, and there's 199 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: not one dominant player who's getting at to the quarterback. 200 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: Some teams have the guy and it's like, this guy's 201 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: gonna get ten plus sacks, you know. The Browns are 202 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: kind of that way. Well, but here's a couple of 203 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: guys you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, clown is Yeah, So 204 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: like it could be a different guy every game. 205 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: How does that help you as a player. 206 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't really worry about it really, to be honest 207 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: with you, like you're like, I just I just do 208 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: my I just do my job. And I feel like 209 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: if I do my job and working my my ass 210 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: off on like on the field, and just stay on point, 211 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: like they'll come to you, you know, like on the sideline. 212 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: You could be at halftime with zero six like oh 213 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: what was me? Like I need a ball? But no, 214 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm just like get like your banana, gets your oranges 215 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: and and halftime, get some good energy and just come 216 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: out like on fire. Just do your job and then 217 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: like when you win, like when you get a one 218 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: on one win and when you win, like make sure 219 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: you tackle that quarterback bring him down, and then you're 220 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: gonna be happy. It'll be a good day. Now. 221 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of talk obviously about about 222 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: contracts and you're in a contract year. 223 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: Now. 224 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: That was the talking point going into the year, and 225 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: you said then I'm not even thinking about that, right 226 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean that to me, I'm like, wow, that that. 227 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: Really shows this guy's maturity, right like. 228 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: That, that's that's a tough thing to deal when you're young. 229 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: And that's on the horizon right to just totally be 230 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: like I'm not thinking about that. How how do you 231 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: go about doing that? How difficult is that to be 232 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: to kind of lock that out? 233 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: The same thing, honestly, Yeah, the same thing, Like I'm 234 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: not gonna be the first and I'm not gonna be 235 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: the last player that's been through like the contract year 236 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: or whatever like that. And that's just how I see 237 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: I just see it. That's just what it is. And 238 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: it's just like you can worry about it and let 239 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: it kind of stress you and put your energy towards that, 240 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: or you can put your energy towards just like getting 241 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: better and your teammates having a good vibe, but also 242 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: being focused being a leader by example and speak when 243 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: you need to speak, and when you're speaking, I mean, 244 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: they'll feel you, they'll understand you because you know, I mean, 245 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: they respect you. They respect that you come in and 246 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: you work your ass off every single day and you're 247 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: putting in good product on Sundays. So that's just been 248 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: my mentality and also talking to like guys like play 249 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: stuff like how did you deal with that? Like Bro's ball, Bro, 250 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: don't just do the same thing, Jamil where he played here, 251 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: just do the same thing. You do the same thing 252 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: or worry about all that, and that's what i' doing things. 253 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: So cool. 254 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting because like every guy has a different approach 255 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: in that regard. Like I remember Zadarius Smith when he 256 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: was here and he was in a contract year. He 257 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: was basically just telling everybody like, yeah, I'm trying to 258 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: ball out and get paid. Like he was like he'd 259 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, it's my contract year. I'm trying to 260 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: ball out and go get paid. And like you kind 261 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: of have taken the approach of the opposite and that 262 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: you're not really focused on the contract year. I'm just 263 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: curious why that is, because again, everybody has like different 264 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: approaches there, and like it does not seem like it's 265 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: necessarily the motivating factor for you. I'm sure there's some 266 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: motivation obviously, but like, but why have you taken the 267 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: approach that you have? 268 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Oh, you know the way my brain is programmed. It's 269 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: like even in college, I was like, if you're trying 270 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: to get paid, you're trying to get paid. Like if 271 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: you play, if I me personally, if I play like that, 272 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I mess up, Okay, But if I 273 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: think like no, I don't worry about getting paid, to 274 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: worry about just like doing your job and just having 275 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: like high energy and just flying around to the ball. 276 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: Then I make like more plays and like when I 277 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: when you know and as you grow older and you 278 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: just find ways to know yourself, know what best foodstiat, 279 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: how well you rest and stuff like that, sleep, and 280 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: just like how you think. And I just recognize that. 281 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, when I think about getting paid, don't work 282 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: for me. But when I think about just being a 283 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: freaking monster and just being great, all that's gonna come. 284 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: So I was like, just be great, do your job, 285 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: be a positive influence like on the team and everybody, 286 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: and like all that comes in this and the work. 287 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh wow, that's that's what's something. Keep 288 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: doing that. 289 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's working exactly, And it's working. 290 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: That's just what it is. Honestly. 291 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Now, this defense, I mean we've had a good defense 292 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: for several years. Now, what is it about this year's defense? 293 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, we've lost guys like Kalais and like justin Houston, 294 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: and yet you know, here we are another year, another 295 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: great defense. 296 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: What is it about this year's unit that you think 297 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: makes you guys really really special. 298 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm just thinking about we have great players man 299 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: like Marlow, ro Kwan, p Q, Kyle, Marcus dahl Fay 300 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: myself like Jabo, Mike or I mean the guy stacked 301 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: and just stacked like young To like O Gez too, 302 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: and it's like all coming together and we all have 303 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: a great vibe as a defense. And I just feel 304 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: like when we have each other's back, when we love 305 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: each other for real, like we hang out like outside 306 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: of the field and just outside of the building, like 307 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: you going in on Sunday, like we're going to war. 308 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: And I love you, Broe. I'm ready to just take 309 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: somebody's head off for you, bro And that's just what 310 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: it is. And I just feel that you feel it 311 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: is this something that you just know you feel it, 312 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: and when you feel it, like just the rocker just 313 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: takes off. 314 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: Man. 315 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, part of it's that that twenty twenty draft class, 316 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you guys are all playing. 317 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: A huge role now, I mean Peak you, you, Malik, Gino, Brody. 318 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: I mean, like all five guys are playing key roles. 319 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: What what's the dynamic amongst you, you know who all 320 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: came into this league together. You know how kind of 321 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: bonded are you? And how cool to see you all 322 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: now really thriving you. 323 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 2: Know, Uh, the bond is there one hundred percent. You know, 324 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: we all came in in the crazy COVID year, no fans, 325 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: no reporters and nothing like, oh this is the NFL, 326 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: like it kind of crazy, but you know, just just 327 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: working in an off season together, keep it in touch 328 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: with each other. And just cool to see it now 329 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: all coming into you know, in motion in a sense 330 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: of just like go, uh making pigs PQ, smacking folks, 331 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: me doing my my thing, broddy set in the edge 332 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: and effing people up. Man. It's just it's just great 333 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: to see and I'm just great to be I'm just 334 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: grateful to be a part of it. Really. 335 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 336 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: They they're great guys too, so it's awesome to be 337 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: around them in the in the building. Yeah. Yeah. 338 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 5: How much do you view yourself as a tone setter 339 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 5: on the field? 340 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: Like you play, you play to the whistle, yeah, and 341 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: you bring an attitude and an edge And you talked 342 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: about like how your mindset is just to play with 343 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: uh that energy, Like is that something that you view 344 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: is really important? 345 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: Very important? Yeah, even though like I'm not like super 346 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: super super like vocal guy. I feel like my energy, 347 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 2: my presence like is felt and like it brings like 348 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: energy to the defense, like especially like guys like Rocon 349 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: all that stuff like for sure, but I feel like 350 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 2: I have that too, like in a sense of like 351 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: when I make players or when I have like energy 352 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: on the silind, people feed off of that and people 353 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: like need like I need your bo to bring the energy. 354 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: So I'm definitely here, you know what I'm saying to 355 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: do that. You know what I mean by taking care 356 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: of myself, taking care of my diet, take care of 357 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: my sleep. You know what I'm saying, just having the 358 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: right mind frame before I go out there. 359 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah this, yeah, totally. 360 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 361 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 362 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: This is a good test for you for your defense 363 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: this week. Detroit Lions. 364 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: You know, they're one of the best offenses, They're one 365 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: of the best teams in the league. 366 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 5: What are you what's the thought process? 367 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: I mean, on paper, this is the best offense that 368 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: you faced this season and it's not particularly close, you know, 369 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: early part of the year. But what are your thoughts 370 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: about going up against this team? And you know the 371 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: notion that this could be a measuring stick for your team, 372 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: and for your defense. 373 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, man, They're gonna have to show me. 374 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to show me. And that's just what 375 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: it is. Like we put into much work as a 376 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: defense to like you know, I mean be you know, 377 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: shaken or like a deer cotton headlights on the bets offense. Whatever. 378 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: You don't have to show me, bro. We put in 379 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: too much work. We love each other too much for 380 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: somebody just to come into our stadium and try and 381 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: try to do what they want to do. Like it 382 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: sounds good on paper, but you know, you don't have 383 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: to show me. 384 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it, man. 385 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: That's that's one thing I like about you too, is 386 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: like and this whole defense row included. It's like we're 387 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: not we're not backing down from anybody. Like we respect people, 388 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: we respect you, but like we ain't gonna sit here 389 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: in cal Town. We're not gonna bow down to you 390 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: before a game. 391 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: You know I'm saying. I'm being serious, Lily, is what 392 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: it is. We just put in too much work, We 393 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: love each other too much. We focus on the details 394 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: too much for somebody just to run all over the place. 395 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: And even if they happen to get their their way. 396 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna recalculate our steps and find a way to 397 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: bring it back at them what it is. 398 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I kind of get the feeling like they haven't played 399 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: many close schemes yet this season, especially recently, and I 400 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: just have I just got this. 401 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: Gut feeling like they're gonna get in. 402 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in a war and they're gonna like 403 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: know it, They're gonna feel that they're in a warm. 404 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 405 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited about it. 406 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: My last question for you, justin is your mentality and 407 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: your approach just you know, in football and in life, 408 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: and you know we talked about the contract stuff and 409 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: all that. 410 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: How much of that is because of your upbringing with 411 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: your parents Nigerian immigrants, you know, and they had to 412 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: make their way. You know how much of it stems 413 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: from that? 414 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: Do you think a lot? Really? A lot? You know, 415 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: My parents came here with nothing, and I just found 416 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: a way to just not make excuses and to work 417 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: hard and get what you believe you deserve. And that's 418 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: just what it was. So even with my mom, she 419 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: just always tells me just to work hard and be 420 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: a good person, to work hard, be a good person, 421 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: everything will all come full circle. Just keep working hard, 422 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: keep being a good person, and just be there for 423 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: your for people that you love, you know what I mean. 424 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: So I feel like stuff like that just helped me 425 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: with my upbringing in terms of hard work and just 426 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: being a good guy. And you know, I feel like 427 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: when you're a good guy, people ready to that and 428 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: they want to be around you and they want to 429 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: help you. So that's like, that's where our end of 430 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: the day because of that coolome awesome. We'll keep it up. 431 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Man, You've been balling the season and I look forward 432 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: to seeing you can tell you that the rest of 433 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: the way. 434 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: Right. 435 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: Thanks, welcome back into the seat. Geeks Studio really enjoyed 436 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: the conversation with Justin Madabike. Also, we're going to give 437 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: a shout out to our friends at DraftKings Sports Book, 438 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: which is an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 439 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: Download the Draft Kings Sportsbook app today. Use a promo 440 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: code flock. 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I think that 450 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: he's gonna I just think that when the season is done, 451 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: we're gonna be really impressed with what he's. 452 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Able to do. 453 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 5: Have great stats, you can have a big payday, and 454 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 5: he's going to be a really important piece of this defense. 455 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: And I love his approach because I think he does 456 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: a lot of things behind the scenes that don't get seen, 457 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: whether it's diet or sleep. 458 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: Like he mentioned different guys. I thought that was pretty cool. 459 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, like hearing from other players, like when Kalays was 460 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: here and Matty bk was, you know, a rookie second 461 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: year player like he was. He was following him around 462 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: every he was his shadow, like soaking up as much 463 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: information as. 464 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: He Kalis Campbell would constantly say, like I am always 465 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: in Justin's ear telling him, like how good you can 466 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: be just from an athletic standpoint, and then you see 467 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the work ethic and all he does behind the scenes 468 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: to really maximize that athletic ability that he has, like 469 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of the you know, it's cliche, but sky's limit 470 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: for that guy. 471 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: You know, he has all the ability of the world. 472 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of like when he first got here, 473 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: that was kind of the the talking point. It was like, 474 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: this guy could be really good. He could be really good, 475 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: and he's just gotten better every single season and I 476 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: think he's I think he's putting it all together, yeah 477 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: this year, and yeah, I'm thrilled by what he's been 478 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: able to do. 479 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about pass rush, but his run 480 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: defense has been very, very good too. You know, you 481 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: talk about losing a guy like Klais Campbell, who is 482 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: a great run defender, you know, and Matta Bikas had 483 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: to kind of step up in that regard to and 484 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens run defense is one of the 485 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: best in the league for the for that reason. 486 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting. 487 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: The Ravens basically remade their defensive front to some level 488 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: this offseason on the edge with letting Justin Houston go 489 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: and the Jason Jason Pierre Paul didn't come back, and 490 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: then you know, Kalais goes, and so now you basically 491 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: are counting on some young players and some newcomers like 492 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: Clowny to come in and so and they've been really good. 493 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: And I think part of the reason they felt comfortable. 494 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: As much as you would love to have Kalais come 495 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: back for another year, they felt comfortable with it is 496 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: because they've had confidence in the young guys that they 497 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: had in the mix here. 498 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're seeing why. 499 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 500 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: So we want to talk a little bit about this 501 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: upcoming big game against the Lions. 502 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: Big game. 503 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 5: Justin made game. 504 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can tell it. Justin Matdeek is a 505 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: little fired up for that one. 506 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 507 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And and you know, kind of like I said, 508 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: I really do like the Ravens vibes going into this 509 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: because you know, they've been hearing a lot about how 510 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: they haven't played up to their potential and whatever. You 511 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: should have blown these teams out and you didn't, or 512 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you've lost the teams that you should have blown out, 513 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: and now here comes the team into. 514 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: Your house that's five and one. 515 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: They've won what is it, thirteen out of the last 516 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: sixteen games, right, one of the best teams in the NFC, 517 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: if not the best, And it's kind of a all right, 518 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, sure, Okay, we haven't blown out teams like 519 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: you think we all should have. Maybe we haven't put 520 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: it all together yet, Like we're gonna have to play 521 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: really well against this challenge, and like, I think that 522 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: that kind of. 523 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: That gets you going a little bit. 524 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: I think it kind of reminds me a little bit 525 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago when they were going to play 526 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: the Browns and everybody was like Browns number one defense, 527 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: numbers number one defense, And ironically I felt like the 528 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: fact that everyone was talking about the Browns being the 529 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 3: number one defense, we're ouled up to defense like more 530 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: than the offense. 531 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. 532 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: And now so it's now you're going up against the 533 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: Lions who have a great offense, and you know, people 534 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 3: like me are a big point. People like me are 535 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: asking him, like what do you think about going up 536 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: against his great offense? And that's been some end great team. 537 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: Like that's a talking point around the locker room this 538 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: entire week, like measuring stick, gam whatever cliche you want 539 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: to throw out there, and I think that they're like 540 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: they they get motivated by stuff like that. Yeah, and 541 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: teams are always looking for ways to motivate and whatever 542 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: you can use as as that motivation, and I think 543 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: that you know they have it. 544 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a little edge there. And you know, 545 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: you've been on the road for three straight weeks, You're 546 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: coming back to M and T Bank. Last time you 547 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: were there, you lost kind of a stinker to the Colts. Like, 548 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: let's go, this is a good team coming into our house. 549 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: We defend our turf kind of territory. Like, I just 550 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: like how this is all kind of lining up from 551 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: like the big picture storyline and the narratives and the 552 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: feeling going into the game. So I want to talk 553 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the more nuanced things 554 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: about this game that the Ravens are gonna have to 555 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: do to win. And I think part of it it 556 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: really starts with Jared Goff and kind of cloud in 557 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: the picture there. I mean, Jared Goff's one of the 558 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: league leaders in yards so far, and really what it 559 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: is is he's only been sacked ten times, right, He's 560 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: been well protected, had a clear picture, and I think 561 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: That's why you hear from Justin Mattabek like if they 562 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: can cloud that picture, get pressure on him, they're coming 563 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: off a game with six secs, that's gonna change the dynamic. 564 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: Because Jared Golf is not he's not a guy who 565 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: extends a lot of plays. 566 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: He's not a runner. He likes he's a he's like 567 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: you playing quarterback. He's a statue. 568 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: I'll take that. 569 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: I'll take that, and so like you. 570 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Know, it's play action protect him well. And he's not 571 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: like a gun slinger. He's not gonna take a lot 572 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: of chances. He's a make your reads, go through your 573 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: reads and make this throat. That makes a lot of sense. 574 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Like he's been in the system for a while. If 575 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens can disrupt that, disrupt that timing, like that's 576 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: when you can really kind of get Jared Goff off 577 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: his game. 578 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: Well, I've always felt like a way to disrupt that timing. 579 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: It's one thing to have the pressure off the edge, 580 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: but even more than that, it's right up the middle. Yep, 581 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: Like that's the problematic thing for a quarterback, really, any quarterback, 582 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: but I think a quarterback like Golf, who who has 583 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: that good protection's got good tackles. You know, it can 584 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: be protected back there, but if you have a guy 585 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: like Justin madebke Yep in the middle, he can force 586 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: his way into the backfield and create problems. I think 587 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: that that can really disrupt a quarterback like golf. And 588 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: so the Ravens are going to be leaning on Madeka 589 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: to have a big game. 590 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And Jadavion Clowney said, that's you know, maybe he's 591 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: a little biased. He's you know, in that front seven, 592 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: but he says he feels like this game is going 593 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: to come down to Ravens defensive front versus Lions offensive line, 594 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: and as always, it always starts to stopping them run. 595 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: For the Ravens. 596 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: Now part of this game is Dave Montgomery, the Lions 597 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: leading running back. So far, looks like he's not going 598 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: to play. He's injured. Jamiir Gibbs though, first round pick, 599 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: speedy guy, really talented guy. To me, you can't give 600 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: up any home runs to him. You know, that's kind 601 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: of been the Ravens run defense. If there's anything to 602 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: nitpick them for, it's been long place, right and Zach 603 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Moss hits you know, it was like, well, you know 604 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: they did well except for these three plays, right, and 605 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: then you had Derrick Henry hit the long one against 606 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: him in London, you know, and that was kind of 607 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: a trick play. 608 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: It was. 609 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: Spears that wasn't a run, but it was a running 610 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 4: back screen. But you can't give it. Gibbs has the speed. 611 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: Gibbs is that. 612 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: Kind of threat for them, and he's gonna get a 613 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: full workload. You can't give out any big ones up 614 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: to him. 615 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, that's it's kind of interesting because Gibbs, 616 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: like when I've watched the Lions play this year, like 617 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: I think he's had more juice, Like I think that 618 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: he's like a really dynamic running back and they've. 619 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 4: Had runner as Davidomery. 620 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: He's a rookie, you know, he's played six games, so 621 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: like he's he's but he's got he's got serious use. 622 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: He's the first round pick. He's also really good out 623 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 3: of the backfield. You can catch them all out of 624 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: the backfield. That could be a difficult thing to handle. 625 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 3: So he poses some serious problems. 626 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 4: I think now speed verse speed. I like the Ravens 627 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: defensive speed. 628 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: You look at Patrick Queen, Roquin Smith, those guys can 629 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: fly like I think way, you know, if the Ravens 630 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: are able to get him back for this game, that 631 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: really helps. He's just and he practiced on Wednesday in 632 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: a limited capacity. I think that, you know, he's a 633 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: guy that kind of can string out some of those 634 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: running back screens, can get to the edge fast, dude. 635 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: So I think that would definitely help. But Jamiir Gibbs 636 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: is a challenge and so that they have to be 637 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: very careful that. And then they have I'm on Ross 638 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Sam Laporta, the rookie. 639 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: Tight end and its weapon is all over this offense. 640 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a lot of challenging weapons. 641 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: So it's uh again, you know, we're not gonna sit 642 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: here and bow down before the game starts. 643 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to do that. I want Matta Beeks 644 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: coming back in. But you know, it's definitely a stiff 645 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 4: challenge for the stefense. 646 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm on Ross Saint Brown. I think 647 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: he's one of the best receivers in the game. I 648 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 3: think he and the numbers is the top ten guy. 649 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: And he's he's got great hands, he's got a home 650 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: run potential, he can move the change, he makes tough 651 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: catches like he is going to be a difficult guy 652 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: to deal with for the secondary. I mean, they face 653 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: some good guys Jamar Chase certainly, and T Higgins, you 654 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: know with the Bengals, and they've they faced the good guys. 655 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: But you know, I think that this overall is the 656 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: biggest test for this defense, and I think that he 657 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: in particular, is gonna is kind of another level than 658 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: they faced so far this year. 659 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: A little wrinkle. 660 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Sam Laporta, the rookie tight end out of Iowa, it's 661 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna I think he's gonna be the best tight end 662 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: that they faced so far this season. You think back 663 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: to the opponents the Ravens have faced so far, hasn't 664 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: really been a real dominant tight end. Laporta is among 665 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: the league leaders so far, so that'll be an interesting, 666 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: different kind of new challenge for the Ravens defense. I 667 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: think Kyle Hamilton, I. 668 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 5: Was gonna say, is this the Hamilton matchup against him? 669 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: All day long? 670 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 4: Would and surprise me, but not surprise me. 671 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, when you're talking about who plays that nickel, 672 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: who plays in that slot, who who's defending that guy. 673 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Arthur Mallett's been playing a lot of snaps, but in 674 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: this matchup, it wouldn't surprise me if Kyle Hamilton gets 675 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: some some Laporta matchups. 676 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting too because Marcus Williams is dealing with 677 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: a hamstring injury, so he may not play right And 678 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: so then you're looking at Geno Stone and who's. 679 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Another Iowa guy Laporta and Gino I asked you know 680 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: about that in locker room. He said, you know, I'll 681 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: see him on Sunday. I said, I was like, I 682 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: was giving him a hard time. I was like, because 683 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: he said Alan Saint Brown's their best offensive player. Yeah, 684 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, dang, you didn't even give your 685 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: other Iyowa. 686 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: Guy a little shot, no love for the other Hawk guy. 687 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: He was like, I'll see him on say, yeah, yeah, Well, 688 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: Gina's been playing really well too. Even if marsh Williams 689 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: isn't in the game. Then, Gino, I think I feel 690 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: confident in his ability to hold down that spot. 691 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: And then you flip it over the other side of 692 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: the ball. 693 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: The Lions have the number one run defense in the NFL, right, 694 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: and the Ravens have one of the best run offenses 695 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now, I do think that that stat 696 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: could be a little bit skewed to make the Lions 697 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: look a little better than they might be. 698 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 4: Like I said, they've been on a lot of blowouts. 699 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: Generally speaking, you're in a. 700 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Blowout, the other team's throwing the ball a lot, they're 701 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: not running, so thus your yards allowed per game in 702 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: rushing is not great. Yep, right, you know you're not 703 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: giving up a lot of rushing yards because guess what, 704 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: they're not running, but still a very stout defensive front. 705 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have to establish establish the run, 706 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: which then sets them up for the past game. They're 707 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: they're acute sealed their eighteenth in the league, and pass 708 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: the defense. And again that might be because in part 709 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: opputents are throwing against them a lot late in games 710 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: to try to catch up. But I think that that 711 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: is kind of a little bit of where their weakness lies. 712 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'll i'll be with this raising Ravens passing offense. 713 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, I think that they've they're still trying to 714 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: put it all together, as they've talked about this week, 715 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: and if you know, Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh and 716 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: multiple people talk this week about how it's kind of 717 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: a work in progress. So far, yep, And I think 718 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: that they're gonna keep making strides. I would like to see, 719 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, I thought we saw you know, we saw 720 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: the big catcher un from Odell Beckham Junior last week. 721 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: You know, Zay Flowers gets his first touchdown. I just 722 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: think that, like, you know, putting more of that together 723 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: consistently is what the Ravens are probably gonna need. 724 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: Like they've played a lot. 725 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: Of their their red zone defense twenty first in the league, 726 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: so hey, here we go, we. 727 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: Got a good matchup zone. 728 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: It all comes back to the red zone. I think that, like, yeah, 729 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: what what is your what is your sense on the 730 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: on like what the score looks like for this game? 731 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 4: But we all know this is going to come down 732 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: to Justin Tucker versus the Lions. 733 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: Well, the last thing, like twenty thirteen, he had six 734 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: field goals, including the sixty one yarder to beat him 735 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: in that game, and then twenty twenty one it was 736 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: it was the sixty six yarder to beat him, So Lions. 737 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: Right in Detroit. 738 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, exactly. 739 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: Still it's still plus Lions fans are like, I don't 740 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: want to see Justin Tucker even suit up in this game. 741 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: It's probably gonna come down to him. 742 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna guess. I mean, I think 743 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a close game. I think this is 744 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a really good game, close game. And sure, yeah, 745 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I'll go for Justin Tucker for. 746 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 4: The walk off. 747 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: Oh how long? How long? 748 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: How long? 749 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: You're right? 750 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, before you just keep ahead, breath deep, breath and 751 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: night before I get I'll go to the walk off. 752 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Fifty five yarder. Okay, it's not a sixty yarder. Okay, 753 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: all right, if it was in Detroit, we're talking sixty 754 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: plus sixty five is still it's not a chip shot. 755 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: No, not a chip shot. 756 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: All right? 757 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: Uh, before we wrap up here, Okay, we got an email. 758 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: We got a ton of emails from listeners who were 759 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: there at the pub last week in London or just 760 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: watched and listen to the episode. 761 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: We love those emails. We really appreciate it. 762 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: We've said it before, but it was awesome to do 763 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: that incredible experience, just meet people from literally all across 764 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: the world who'd been listening or watching the podcast for years. 765 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: I loved that. It was fun, so much fun. 766 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: It was great, and so anybody that was there or 767 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: emailed us thank you so much. We really do appreciate that. 768 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: You can always email us at the lounge at ravensot 769 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: NFL dot net. We got an email here from Ashley 770 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: who said so she she loved everything we were able 771 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: to do in London. She was not there, but she 772 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: loved just watching it and taking it all in. And 773 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: she said her favorite thing was the reaction from the 774 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: of the win from the back of the team bus. 775 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: Don't get used to that. 776 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: That's a little it was a little bit awkward. 777 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie podcast the other people on the 778 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: bus and you're just it's totally silent. 779 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: You're shouting in the back. Yeah, a little bit strange, 780 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 4: but you know. 781 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: So, don't get used to that. But I'm glad that 782 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: we can provide some entertainment for you. Actually, she said, 783 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: her question here is does this team make a trade 784 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: before the deadline? Right, we've just become accustomed to the 785 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: deadline trades. 786 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Cost has done it three out of his four years 787 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: as general manager, right, Marcus Peters, Yuni and Way and 788 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: then he took a year off and then Rokuan Smith. Yeah, so, 789 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: uh so I'll never bet against Eric making a deadline deal. Yeah, 790 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think that, Like, they don't have a 791 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: lot of salary cap space, so that's a little bit 792 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: of an impediment. But like they obviously have a team 793 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: that is a contender, I think to win it all. 794 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And like, uh so, yeah, I would never bet against 795 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Eric making a trade. The two positions I would look 796 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: at that I think are most likely would be a 797 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher. Can never have enough. That's kind of the 798 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Niue mode. You know. The Ravens have really been relying 799 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: on this pass rush by a variety of different sources. Right, 800 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Like we said, eleven different guys with one sack with 801 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: at least one sack. That's the most in the NFL. 802 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: And that's awesome, that's great. I'm not going to pass 803 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: up a stud though, Like you know, you were like, well, 804 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: they don't really have that stud ten plus sack guy 805 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: out on the edge. If there's one available at the 806 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: right price, one sign me up. 807 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: I'll take one. I'm not going to turn him down. 808 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Like, think of what Mike McDonald and this defense, all 809 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: of them together can do with that guy. Right, And 810 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: and you know, even you have Jenevian Clowney, Kyle Vannoy, 811 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: They've been kind of carrying, especially Clowney, a pretty heavy 812 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: load here early in the season. This is two veteran 813 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: guys that I think you want to manage their snaps 814 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: as the course over the course of the season. Right now, 815 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: daphe is coming back. I think that's a big deal. 816 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: That's a huge Boosey was playing really well Week one 817 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: against the Texans. I'm excited about what he brings. David 818 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Ajabo is a little bit more of a question mark 819 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: at this point. When is he going to come back? 820 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: You know John Harball and he said he is going 821 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: to try to come back from the ankle and knee, 822 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: But what. 823 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: When is that? 824 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: How much can you count on? You know, is how 825 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: soon is the one hundred percent? So, like there's still 826 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: some lingering things there. And I think adding another by 827 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: to that room, another not just a body, but a playmaker, huh, 828 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: would be a pretty nice addition. 829 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. Like, you know, it would be 830 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: nice if you can get a stud pass rusher. Like, 831 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: that's one of the most premier, premier positions in the NFL. 832 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: So if you have that opportunity, it's tough to turn 833 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: that down. However, I like and I agree with like 834 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: the load management thing with Clowney and Kyle van Noy, 835 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: But like you're getting a Dafeo way back, You're you're 836 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: getting David Ajaba back eventually, Like those are the guys, 837 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 3: Like that's that's your mid season acquisition. In a lot 838 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: of ways, the sure that and those are two high 839 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: draft picks, So the Ravens have a lot of faith 840 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: in and so you I would think that like if 841 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: you bring in somebody else, that kind of limits the 842 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: opportunities for them, assuming they get back and they're fully healthy. 843 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: So that's the one thing that I'm like, would they 844 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: make that move knowing that you got adafe coming back 845 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: and you got a Joba right around the corner, you 846 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: hope certainly? 847 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a luxury. 848 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 849 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's something that they have to have, 850 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: right and thus I don't think it's something that like 851 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens have to spend a premium to go get, 852 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: but like it'd be a nice luxury. 853 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: It'd be a really nice luxury. You know, you're already 854 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: tied for the league lead in sacks with twenty. 855 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 5: That's the funny thing is get pass rushers, Like, yeah, 856 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 5: the most sex. 857 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: Of the league exactly exactly, but I'm not gonna turn 858 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: them down. 859 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 5: What was the other position? Running back would be the 860 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: one that would that was the one that I was 861 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 5: wondering about. 862 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that. 863 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: You know, we talked to Justice last week, friend of lounge, like, 864 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: he's running well, Gus is running well. It's it's been good. 865 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: You know, another game changer in that backfield, kind of 866 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, a playmaker, game changer kind of guy could 867 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: take him to another level. And the other the other 868 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: thing I think of is, you know, it's kind of 869 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: a buyer's market at running back right now, right you've 870 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: seen the values come down, does it? 871 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: How does it take a lot to pry a really 872 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 4: good one from another. 873 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: Team who might not be wanting to spend the big 874 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: money on them, you know, to get either a rental 875 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: or maybe you know. 876 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: The other thing is the Ravens. 877 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: You look ahead the next season, they don't have a 878 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: running only running backs on a contract or Justice Hill 879 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: and Keith Mitchell. 880 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, beyond this year, j K. 881 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: Dowams is going to be a free agent, Gus Edwards 882 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: is poised to be a free agent, and so sure, 883 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's a maybe it's a rental or maybe you 884 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: get to the end of that and say, hey, we're 885 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: gonna work out a deal with this guy and still 886 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: in potentially a buyer's market where you're like, we can 887 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: get this guy at a cost that we don't think 888 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: is that prohibitive. 889 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 890 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 5: Well, like, I mean, this is probably the extreme example. 891 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: You saw the impact of Christian mccafrey made on the 892 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: forty nine erslast He's probably the best running back in 893 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: the game. So like it's hard to compare you know there, 894 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: and he's not available, you know, so so like, but 895 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: but I do think that that could be a spot. 896 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: I mean the Raves even did that. You know, this 897 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: was this was not anywhere close to that level several 898 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: years ago. They brought it, like Ti Montgomery right right 899 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: around the trade deadline, was it. Yeah, going back, gotta 900 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: check the notes there, all right. Yeah, you know, so 901 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: that was a you know, I think they traded like 902 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: a six or seventh round pick for him that year. 903 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: But you know, so they brought some depth in, you know, 904 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 3: another quality player to that mix. Maybe it's that approach 905 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: rather than like the Christian McCaffrey type. 906 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, approach. 907 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: I just think that you know, JK. 908 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Dobbins got injured in Week one, and we've all kind 909 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: of lost focus of like that was a big time 910 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: playmaker that got eliminated from this offense. Yeah right, and 911 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: like to get another guy of that kind of caliber 912 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: on this offense, I think could take the offense to 913 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: another level, an offense that, you know, like we said, 914 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: has been kind of inconsistent. 915 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 4: Like if you're you know, you talk about pass rusher 916 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 4: being a luxury on one of the. 917 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: Best defenses in the league that's tied for the league leading, 918 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: sex well, the offense is not, you know, it could 919 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: use a little help. And so maybe that's the piece 920 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: that Eric to Costa looks at and says, let's let's. 921 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 4: Kind of lean into this ground game a little bit more. 922 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's give it another weapon and to kind of 923 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: try to get this offense that next level, because we 924 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: see the potential there it can be. I think a 925 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: top tier offense just hasn't gotten there yet. 926 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 927 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 5: Well, the one thing we know for sure is that 928 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 5: the GOSP will turn over every stone for sure. So 929 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 5: if there's a trade to be had, I'll make it, yep. 930 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: But before we get to that point, trade deadline is 931 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: still what two weeks away, yes, okay, before that point, 932 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna. 933 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: Go get Mere. 934 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 2: Lions. 935 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 4: Roar, let's come.