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This is the Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.440 your hosts Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.160 Hello everyone, this is Josh Nelson Socks Machine as we 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.600 bring you a new podcast recording this on Thursday night, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.520 July nine, twenty twenty six, as the Chicago White Sox 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.640 are wrapped up their series against the Boston Red Sox 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.119 and only one word really summarizes what happened at raid 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.520 Field for the White Sox this week, yikes, as they 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.760 were swept in three games by the Red Sox. Not 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.800 only were they swept in three games by the Red Sox, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.240 the White Sox only scored two runs in the three games. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.240 Here's White Sox manager Will Venables speaking most game after 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.200 being swept by Boston and the difficulties that his offense 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.560 had against Boston's very tough left handed starters. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.920 Yeah, same story today. Just counsolved for some really good 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.840 left handed pitching. Got to give those guys on the 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.040 other side credit. Its extremely tough, you know. We're able 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.440 to neutralize some guys that we've seen, especially versus left 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.320 handed pitching and play really well, you know. And in 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.040 Bark and Rich and those guys have done such great 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.520 top all year, and I just really collectively just can't 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.240 get it going offensive. I think they can, for sure, sure, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:01.920 I don't know if that was the case this series. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.600 I think we just got beat, you know, And I 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.400 think that we tried to make a bunch of adjustments. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:06.640 These guys are working really hard. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.360 Pre game was solved for some of these dynamic, dynamic 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.880 pass balls that these lefties have, and we just weren't 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.200 able to solve for. So I don't want to label 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.880 this one a slump you know, but certainly a series. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.280 And we just we weren't able to produce offense to. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.960 Me, which you know is something we used to doing. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.120 You guys hit very well against Left Youthium for the 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.920 first few months of the year, or you've seen something 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.679 different and now you're being attacked. Whether it's you know, 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.960 the way they're attacking the inside half with you know, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.040 fastballs that's a different or is it just you chalking 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.160 up to three bad games? 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.280 Yeah, I think you know, yeah, three bad games. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.440 At the same time, you got to look internally and 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.200 make sure that there are adjustments being made and I think, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.200 you know, adjusting to the fastball and figuring out the 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.000 way to move some of those forwards is a really 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:43.600 good place. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:44.040 For us to start. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.519 Now. I'm joined by Soxx Machines, beer reporter James Vegan 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.720 and managing editor Jim Margolus, and Hello gents. Our last 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.720 podcast episode had a hint of optimism after the White 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.440 Socks were able to split a four game series against 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.200 the Cleveland Guardians, and then this I don't know really 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.120 how to describe it other than yikes. As I mentioned 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.000 the intro being outscored fifteen to two, the White Sox 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.840 did not even have a single extra basid in this 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.240 series against the Boston Red Sox In the three games, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.520 James vegan. What happened to the White Sox offense against Boston? 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.120 See last time I saw the rundown like three hours 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.400 ahead of time, and I had answers prepared, whereas now 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.120 kind of hectic and bouncing around my fault, I didn't 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.120 see it. So I saw just a slot of where 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.600 are the offense go? And the only response I had 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.680 of like is the defensive? I don't know, man, what 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.440 do you get off my back? I certainly think like 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.920 totally was like my like sleeper ale Rookie of the 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:55.120 Year pick fangrafs. So on the one hand, like he 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.320 started a theme that continued the whole series of just 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.400 like here's a bunch of fastballs, especially like in on 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.760 the hands of right handers over and over again, do 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.160 something about it. And seeing a team that's kind of 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.320 prided itself on slug not really be able to do 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:10.960 something about it. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:14.640 Obviously not great. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.679 That said, I thought, like totally totally's fastball being elite 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.200 likes kind of established his prospect profile. Randall Gritchick said, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.160 like this Jake Bennett was like the best location they 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.200 had faced all season, And you know, you hear that 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.520 sort of quote a lot when teams get like skunked 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.520 in a way like dip your cap. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:35.640 That guy was great. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.280 I did think he was like like Atlease with bats 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.040 where I was really locked in, like where he tied 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.360 up like Bradon Montgomery like early in the game, and 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.359 it was really just like on perfect edge fastballs on 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.360 his hands, like over and over again, like I thought 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.560 he he was commanding very well. At the same time, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.040 like Jake Bennett is not like you know, prime Steve Carlton. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.800 I think there is some level of like the offense 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.160 just obviously not looking good all the way through the series, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:06.800 even if the ballastn't generally pitched well, certainly in stretches 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.400 they've faced more proven competition and done a bit better 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.400 than that in a way that kind of shows her off. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:17.480 And I've always been a little iffy on their attack 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.239 against lefties, and I think the statistics had been countering 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.719 that all year, but it's been really heavily on like 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.560 Miguel Vargas being like literally the best hitter in the 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.760 league against lefties or Randall Gritcheck just like bottling everything 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.040 we understand about Randall. Gritcheck can hit let it lefties, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.760 like in these very compacted bursts, whereas like now he's 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.239 kind of maybe regressing back to what is normal good 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.920 but not like he's going to hit a home run 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:47.560 every game type of production against left handers. And without that, 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:52.200 and without Edgar Carrow, that you really kind of expected 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.280 to be, you know, the catcher who starts against lefties 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.400 and does a lot of damage against them based on 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.719 last season, the fact that Austin Hayes and eversin Peira 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.120 are both been out for a long time, and just 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.200 when they thought they were like going to go back 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.680 to having kind of a legit right handed corner back 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.080 to put against lefties, they trade Derek Hill and Prera 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.960 runs into a wall and now they're stuck kind of 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.520 using minor league depth a little bit like June and 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.120 Prez's tools. But you know, it wasn't having a good 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.160 year in Triple A. Like I haven't been as discouraged 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.080 as maybe some of our competes are in terms of 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.840 like what Perez could be long term, but certainly it's not. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.080 There's gonna be warts and like trusting that to be 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:38.920 irregular middle of the order masher against left handed pitching. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.280 So I think a lot of things kind of came 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.719 together at the same time. Like I know from covering 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.000 him for a year and a half at this point, like 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.000 nothing irritates by the pennable or get some just s 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.080 treak his team like quite as pointedly as just like 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.000 getting blown away in the zone by fastballs, and that's 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.640 certainly was what it was all all three games. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.320 And James mentioned Randall Gridchick. Jim and we talked about 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.800 grid Chick in our previous podcast episode reviewing this upcoming series. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.560 I felt like he needed to have a big series 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.840 with the White Sox, somebody else to provide some power 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.840 from the right handed side other than Miguel Vargas. He 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.600 came up empty. He went oh for nine with three 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.960 strikeouts and no walks in this series, and I think 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.560 that's a big factor as far as this DH rotation 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.560 that they have right now between the two veterans and 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 Gridchick and then of course Andrew ben Attendee. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.480 Yeah, it's a. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.240 Couple of things. I mean, he did hit a couple 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.160 balls hard that found gloves and the Red Sox played 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.560 pretty good defense too. They did snuff out even Like, yeah, 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.680 White Sox kind of needed some luck to get things going, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.120 and there was no luck to be had. Uh with 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.000 the weaker balls, they hit like nothing that could snowball, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.560 So like that's part of it. Part of it's like 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.280 that it's just random variation. Bennett kind of reminded me 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.880 of like jose Kintana. I think it would be my 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.280 comp in terms of like relentless inside fastballs, and then 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.360 they start looking for inside fastballs and then he moves 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.480 them up just enough to where like they're up but 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.320 they're inside, but they're also like slightly out of the zone. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.200 So it gets pop ups or foul balls and bad counts, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.880 and then the change ups come. You know, he starts 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.600 spotting stuff outer half and then that gets them all 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.960 out of sorts. So that was part of it. And 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.200 then you know, like bigger pictures that they got Gritchick 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.680 for free basically, I mean they signed him for a 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.720 one point twenty five million, but he was a minor 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:30.600 league contract in the offseason was released by the Yankees, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:35.320 so you can't be banking on them that much. As 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.640 much as the White Sox have gotten from them and 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.040 then Junior pres not being a major leaguer at least yet, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.240 you know, that's your right hand bats right now in 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.880 the outfield, and once that option is shot, then you 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.920 have like the situation where Jacob Gonzalez is batting against 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.800 the Rolldess Chapman is the last hope in the ninth inning. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:57.080 So you saw the depth issues being exposed, I think 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.319 in this three game series. So the hope is that 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.440 and you can't really bank on it. But like Austin 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.840 Hayes isn't dead yet, I guess we'll say, like he's 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.480 not as replaceable as he looked to when Hill and 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.160 Gritchick were there and Perero was healthy. And you know, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.680 like I would say, Hayes is probably closer to turning 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.960 than Pereira. So it looks like he helped me back 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.680 in the mix, and the White Sox might need something 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.880 from him yet, and you can't discount him. I mean, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.199 you just he's already in the fold, he's already under contract. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.599 Anybody who is a right handed bat can stand in 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.680 the outfield and has a semblance of major league production, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.520 I think you have to respect and hope they can 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.240 get something from well. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.760 The other right handed bat. Of course he's a switcher, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.280 is Brady Montgomery. And when you take a look at 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:50.240 the Crochet trade trio in this series seeking Revenge, I 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.680 guess in a weird way, they got an opportunity to 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.480 play in the major leagues with the White Sox, So 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.480 I'm really not sure about the revenge angle. But facing 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.640 their former team, Kyle Teal over seven Chase my draft 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.880 two for ten, he needed two walks. That was Jim's 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.240 pick for who needs a big series with the White 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.040 Sox to be successful. In our last episode, mine was 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.760 Bradon Montgomery and he went one for eleven with a walk. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.280 So the Crochet trae Jim still going well for the 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.559 White Sox, but at least for this series, no additional 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:23.520 bonus points. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.520 Yeah, I mean Teal starting against lefties or having to 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.480 play against lefties that doesn't help him. And then you 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.839 have Drew Romo starting against a lefty, so that's another 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.880 thing that kind of shortens the lineup a lot. Uh. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.680 You know my draft gun on base you with thirty 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.319 three percent of the time. That's okay for a series. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.840 You know, Montgomery weaker against lefties historically, but needs the 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.160 plate appearances so you know that's you know, you're looking 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.080 at Sam Antonaci, the other guy who wasn't doing anything 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.560 against lefties early, starting to do something now, So you know, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.400 these are bats for Braden. While I wouldn't even say 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.880 it was tough to watch, like the I think the 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.840 discipline is there, are these the pitch recognition they were 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.120 telling strikes from balls? Is there just a matter of 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.319 like getting the barrel on time, you know, just I 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.440 think it's more a matter of the swing or timing 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.520 it up versus you know, just not reading pitch as well. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.480 So I think you just got to keep giving him 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.920 at bats, especially when the competition right now is Junior Paris, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:28.199 And uh yeah, I think it's just a case where 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.240 this is a group where lefties make them look weaker, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:33.640 and they did. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.960 I thought Brandon looked like as dangerous as anyone on 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.679 Thursday on the team, at least, like I think he 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.600 hit ball decently hard, like three times. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.360 So and then you had another hit taken yeah, and 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.319 then had another. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:47.760 Hit taken away. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.480 Like you know, it wasn't a pretty start, but it's 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.679 certainly about the prospects like him. You can kind of 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:54.880 say like, oh, it looks like he was kind of 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:55.959 figuring things out a little bit. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:56.640 At the end, so. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.480 Sam Antonaci went for for in this series. He is 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.560 now hitting a little bit better against leftenant pitching, still 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.080 not a lot of power. He's up to five twenty 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:12.200 ohhs against south Pause and James. I guess, as Jim 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.520 kind of laid out that, with the current health of 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.720 the outfield right now, there's not a lot of latune 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.240 opportunities for the White Sox. But at the same time, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.400 it feels like the White Sox wants sam Antonacci to 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.440 learn on the fly here, so he's able to be 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.559 in the lineup every single game despite who is on 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.240 the mound. Is he going to continue to get this 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:35.880 type of run against lefties? 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.560 I would think so more, if only because they're choosing 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.680 a little bit, you know, especially with how much they're 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:49.400 using Perez like to sit either Peters or Montgomery or him, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.280 so he can kind of just push that into more 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.319 of a rotation than just like he's the one who sits. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.640 When that happens, and Vnable complimented him, it's clearly like 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.640 something you're emphasizing of just trying to, like you mentioned 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.800 that a lot of power it's basically like, all right, 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.280 he's probably not going to hit for power against him, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.800 Let's just write and lash some singles to left field. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.360 Is the explanation of what he's trying to do against 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.080 left handers. And you know he's able to do that 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.640 a little bit. And I think with where they're at 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.880 until like Austin Hayes, like his rehab assigm wouldn't be 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.839 until after the All Star break, Like, there's going to 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.240 be at least a couple more series of them trying 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.959 to figure it out without really having a right in 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.640 a quarterback. So yeah, this is runway for him to 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.680 keep doing that or give himself a chance. And he's 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.000 been moving up from like not playing to like Betty 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.560 Knight to batting six, not while the team is thriving, 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.120 but certainly like indicates like his place on you know, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:44.160 the pecking orders, you know, only going up, if not dramatically. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.559 Hopefully the White Sox offense fair is a lot better 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.280 against the Athletics. This upcoming weekend, will be previewing that series. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.280 Later in the show, A big part of the White 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.200 Sox offense we'll be returning as we'll talk about Mudataka 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.960 Murakami later but the bitching signed for this series. Davis 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.480 Martin not a great start, so this is back to 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.920 back starts where he's not able to get through five innings. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.160 Davis Martin only went four innings against the Boston Red Sox. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.920 He allowed five earned runs on six hits, two walks, 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.440 two strikeouts. And his last seven starts for Davis Martin, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.960 he has an urn run average of six point three four. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:25.040 He has reached one hundred innings and that was his 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.520 last start before the All Star break. So if he's 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.400 not added to the American League All Star team, he's 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.400 going to get some additional rest. And I wonder, James 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.600 last year we saw this with Shane Smith that he 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.400 was starting to sputter entering the All Star break. Is 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.160 Davis Martin going through the same thing here where maybe 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.440 he's just a little bit out of gas at the 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.240 halfway point. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.640 He certainly says so I feelt better about writing like 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.800 a month's worth the pieces, kind of trying to politely 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.840 hint at the idea that he was fatigued for him 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.640 to say at the end of his last start, like yeah, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.240 I'm worn out or I'm tired. I mean need this 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.240 break in a way that you know, the velocity isn't 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.520 like top, but it isn't like what's falling apart. It 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.240 sounds like it's just really hard for him to like 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.040 be consistent with some of the timing of his delivery 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.040 and his command with the way he's feeling right now. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:17.480 And so. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.160 You know, if this was eight years ago or talking 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.600 about like how they schedule things out with Don Cooper, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.760 you'd expect him to be like the last guy out 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.800 of the out of the All Star break to give 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.840 him like this big extended rest. And you know, certainly 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.880 right now he seems like, you know, the squeakiest wheel 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.760 in a sense in that way. But that said, like 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.920 Noah Schultz has obviously not thrown big innings or even 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.120 like I think north of one hundred innings in any 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.680 year of his career, so that's something you consider, you know, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.000 on top of the fact he just hasn't been performing recently. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:57.160 And then Sean Berke and is probably in a similar 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.160 part as far as like Max around around one hundred 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.000 and forty eight Martin, though he obviously it's throwing harder 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.120 and better than ever. Right now, there's enough other guys 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.240 who aren't like you know, Anthony k had a pretty long, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.600 you know season last year, but it hasn't like necessarily 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.800 had like one hundred and eighty in campaign or something 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.360 like that. Long story short, there are other guys that 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.760 they would have like, you know, measures about like considering 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.720 their workload. I just think like Martin's kind of like 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.880 the obvious point we still haven't necessarily heard, you know, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.960 the final rosters of what subs will need it, and 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.480 you know he certainly's be willing to do it. I 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.520 don't think he turned it down for this reason, since 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.760 it would be like an inning on regular rest, but 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.600 certainly doesn't feel like a bad time for him to 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.360 just kind of shut it down entirely as well, not entirely, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.680 I'm sure he'll be throwing and whatnot, but like the 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.920 idea of him getting two weeks off between starts with 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.760 you know, the way he talked ever his last one, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.240 that seems fine. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.360 Shane Smith could be similar. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.560 You know, they're both kind of like how much of 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.600 those four commands about fatigue? How much which is about 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.840 like Smith just like really not having much track record 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.760 of starting at all to that degree, but as far 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.560 as like a broad strokes type of thing, I don't 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:14.040 know if Shane Smith is going to with just immaculate 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:19.000 timing suffer a ankle spray in posts all Star break workouts. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.080 I don't think it be repeated that necessarily to get 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.600 Martin extra rest, but seems like a similar concept overall. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.000 And then James mentioned Noah Schultz. Jim Schultz went five innings. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.480 He alloud's seven hits, four earned runs, he walked three, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.040 struck out three. And that is starting number ten in 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.800 his rookie season. So we have ten starts of data 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.280 for Noah Schultz and right now his own run average 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.639 is six. He's pitched forty eight innings, he's got forty 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.600 three strikeouts and twenty nine walks. What do you make 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.480 of the first ten career starts for Noah Schultz? 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:01.120 It's not what you want. I think based on what 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:02.960 he looks like when he's at his best in the 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.120 minor leagues, that version hasn't been seen in the majors, 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.480 and it's hard to know with the knee issue like 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.560 that's been the common thread. When he hasn't looked like himself, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.680 when he hasn't thrown strikes, when the slider has been 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:19.639 less than imposing, it turns out that detends to go 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.160 on the injured list when that happens, and he doesn't 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.640 say anything about it until after he's on the injured list, 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.879 and there's no real you know, reference to it or 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.040 talk about mitigation anything. He's pitching through. It just kind 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.800 of happens. Then you reverse engineer, like, oh, that's the 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.720 reason why I wasn't throwing strikes. And so when he 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.840 comes back from the injured list and he's still not 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.840 throwing strikes, it's a case where like, is it still fine? 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.800 And you know he uh, you know, he seems to 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.840 not want to talk about it, which is his rights. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.639 But in terms of adjusting your expectations or just the 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.800 kind of you know, following patterns or you know, whether 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.439 you just take it like that or if you take 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.280 it like a little to unbridge, like fool me twice, Yeah, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.560 then it's my problem, you know, depending on how you 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.760 look at it. It's just a case where it's hard 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.200 to know exactly what. You know, whether he's pitching his best, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.480 whether you're seeing him applying his best in major league 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.159 hitters just aren't phased, or whether he's showing up with 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.720 like eighty percent of his stuff and as a rookie 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.880 who's just you know, not having what he happened, he's 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.960 his best in the miners, it's actually okay, and he's 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.440 serving a purpose and you hope that he gets better 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.000 to where he can flash that if not number one, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.000 stuff like number two based on the way he was 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:41.400 throwing in the miners when he peaked, like not ridiculous 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.400 to say his number two starter ceiling. So yeah, that's 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.000 why I think what's what makes it tricky? 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.480 Yeah, Lenn Casper and Darren Jackson on the radio side 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.480 for the White Sox broadcast continue to bring up Brandy 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:58.320 Johnson because we don't have many examples in Major League 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.840 Baseball history of tanne pitchers who are six feet tall 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.400 six foot ten and taller like Schultz and Johnson, and 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.159 Darren Jackson keeps bringing up the point it took a 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.639 long time for Randy Johnson to figure it out, like 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.720 until he was like age twenty seven, which I think 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.680 Schultz is right now twenty two to twenty three years old. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.560 So maybe it takes four more seasons for Noah's Schultz 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.239 to figure it out. But as we have learned in 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.800 this day and age, White Sox fans are not all 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.680