WEBVTT - The Legend of Kevin Samuels Part. 2 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.800 Yet you know, boys, it's back and reoated all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.119 your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.399 the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escape douting, 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.640 And they ain't know when we speak the truth, so 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.720 they quoted because we wrote it. The North South East 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.880 coach is the g be my keeping your head bobbing. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.040 It ain't no stopping and wants to be drops head 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.040 by then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.800 rock out their heads and then blame me. Do uther be, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.560 don't get it twisted on code and me and danced 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:39.320 for now buttament biscuits. I watched a few clips of 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.440 Kevin Samuel's uh the other day were actually earlier today, 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.400 and uh, this is what I came back with. And 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.559 I want you guys to anybody can just jump in 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.839 and and and answer, uh, give your thoughts on this. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.080 A woman said that she had a baby with a 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.080 man who was not good enough for her. She said 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.319 he was not good enough for her, but she had 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.440 the baby with him anyway, And and she ended up 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:09.720 the voicing this guy uh and Kevin's she said, well, yeah, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.840 you know, well I I'm on I allowed to make mistakes, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.360 and Kevin said, you're allowed to make mistakes, but the 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:22.000 world does not owe you understanding. Anybody got p with that? Okay, 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.959 here's another one. Woman said her boyfriend of two weeks 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:31.440 has trust issues, so she shares her location with him. Uh. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.959 And her boyfriend, uh, she has gone out with just twice. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.319 This is the guy she only has been out with twice. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.280 She said, she goes out, she she shares the location 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.920 so that he can feel comfortable. Kevin said. Kevin said, 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.760 it's crazy. And then he said, uh, have you had 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.040 therapy and and she said yes, And he said you 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:59.360 need to go back. You gotta with that. Okay, alright, okay, okay. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:04.400 The woman a woman, uh was okay being petty being pretty. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.320 Woman said being pretty is not enough for a lot 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.800 of men, because I'm pretty and I'm still single. Kevin said, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.560 what do you want? The woman said, I don't know, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.120 because a lot of men don't know what they want. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.960 Kevin said, uh, just in the little time talking to you, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.919 it's been chaotic. He cut off and said, you can't 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.440 make this ship up people. Anybody got a problem with that? 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.800 He cut off. She said, she said she don't know 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.680 what she was, I don't know what I want, and 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.560 he said, just in this a little time talking to you. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:45.360 It's being chaotic, and he cut off the cutting off part. Yeah, definitely, 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.519 and said, you can't make this ship up. People just 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:55.320 cut off, cut off. He's also teaching men how to 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.560 deal with women when they're being them, when they're being 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.120 disperspectful and talking over you. You get up and walk 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.280 out of the room when they cut you, cut them off, 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.240 and you move on. Because a lot of men these days, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.240 especially single mother raise boys who have been raised by 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.320 their minds. They'll argue back and forth with you like 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.680 they're a woman. I know, and each and every woman 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.560 in this room, if you're in, you've dealt with a man, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.919 and you know your mother must have raised you because 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.440 you sound just like her. Whereas what men are supposed 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.600 to do, it's a I said, would have to say, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.600 you said, Jed, say there's no need to get emotional 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.079 about it, and you move on. That's foreign to a 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.600 lot of these young men, and so what they saw 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.080 him doing is dealing with disrespectful women who you're not 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.840 gonna get a positive outcome from. Just you walk away 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.600 from that, because otherwise it just escalates. Your ladies know 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.560 how it goes. And when you get men and women 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.600 and relationships and they escalate, women oftentimes don't know how 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.520 to stop because women, I think, just didn't understand his 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.280 approach and his response. And so it's not that they 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.960 were rebutting to be disrespectful. They were trying to get 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.520 their part out. You know, well X and we and 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:13.600 they were because they, I mean, we're in a conversation, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.920 were right, And he did ask a question. There are 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.880 times where he asked a question, and so I don't 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.960 think that sometimes he was fair in allowing the female 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:27.240 to fully answer the question without the cutting off. No, no, no, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.440 no no. He was always fast. He was always he 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.240 always when they when they start, when they said they 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.760 came with like nonsense. No's when they were cute, and 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.680 he would give him a little bit more leeway. Now 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.359 I've watched I se him. I've seen him cut a 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.000 lot of nice look out he was if you if 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.719 you were nice looking, he would he would, he would, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.640 he would give you a little leeway. But if you 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.320 was ugly, he was gonna stink it. Okay, moving on, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.159 here's another clip. There's a woman wants to divorce. A 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:00.839 woman divorce, wanted to divorce her husband and get back 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.120 with her ex because he's a high value man in 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.920 terms of his money, social status, and how he looks. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.119 Kevin said, and what would people say about that? Woman said, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.000 it would say he got back with the woman he 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.840 always wanted. Kevin says, she belongs to the streets and 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:25.400 cut off the world. Yeah, he said, okay, wanted to 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.240 go to the woman, the woman. The woman wanted to 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.800 woman wanted to divorce her husband and go back with 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.400 her ex, her ex, get what her ex because now 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.000 her ex is a high value man in terms of 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:44.440 his his social status and how he looks. And Kevin said, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 and what would people say about that? And she said 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.120 the woman said, it would say he got back with 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.120 the woman he always wanted. And then Kevin said, she 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.000 belongs to the streets and cut off. No problem with 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.680 that problem. Do anybody have a problem with the woman's 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.840 a woman's the woman saying it would uh, it would 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.680 say that he got back with the woman he always wanted. Yes, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.400 I have a problem with that. That's not what it 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:16.080 was the fact that married behind called the show right, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:29.800 everybody see the money. It was so another woman called 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.120 and said she got married so she could have kids, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.880 and when her husband found out he couldn't have kids 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.440 anymore after they got married, she divorced him. She said, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.920 now I'm actively looking, and Kevin says, comments a bit, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.240 how do you know you're gonna be able to carry children? Uh? 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.800 Turn to turn. The woman said, it is terrible. I know, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.240 I know. And then Kevin said, uh, the shot you 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.040 say uh? Let me said, going on the shot you 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:03.800 say people at Oh He said that the ship you 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:08.640 say around people who let you believe it. So this 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.880 woman is see what I saw a lot of times 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.160 is when when women would get on there and they 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.640 be delusional. He didn't have patience for delusional women, Like 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.240 if you were talking out the side of your neck 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.200 off yea, I think that is delusional. I think I 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.400 think it's very delusional to to to to uh, to 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:33.320 marry uh, to marry a man for kids. I think 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.679 you want, you want kids, you till you're gonna marry 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.920 this guy, and then after you get married, you find 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:43.600 out that the guy can't have kids, and and now 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.200 you no longer want to be married to the guy, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.400 so you divorce him, and now you're out there looking 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.720 you divorce a guy that's otherwise a good guy. So 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.080 you're out there now you're looking, and you're not even 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.040 sure that you can carry a child to turn so 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.280 you haven't even thought that ship all the way through. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.960 There's more men that leave women because they don't want 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.280 to have children anymore. But we have to have those kids, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:09.640 and we don't want to have them anymore, but you 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:15.480 still want kids. There's more men. But they went into 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.280 a marriage. Hold on, they went into a marriage saying 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.200 that they were going to have children, and then later 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:30.360 on trying to exactly because but it was clear if 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.960 you were if you're married, if men, and if I'm married, 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.959 and we came into this relationship like you know, we're 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.960 gonna have five kids, and after two I say I 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.880 can't have no more. I'm done. It's a breach of contract. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.360 And that man wanted to if he wanted to leave 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:54.160 me because because but but it was still a situation 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.760 that they came in together. If she would have known 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.720 beforehand that he couldn't have because she wouldn't have married, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:05.160 you know, with you present on that because vice versa. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.360 So I marry you and I said I want to 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.240 have one kid, and you can come home with another, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.319 and no, you come on with another. Come on, I 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.600 want if I say, me and you we agree and 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.200 we have a one kid and ship be good, and 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.760 you're like yeah. And then I come home one day 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.240 and it happened to my brother. He came home and 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.840 his wife said, we sick. I mean we's pregnant. He's like, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.480 now we's not pregnant. Pregnant because we had agreed that 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.400 I only want to have one kid, and now you 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:46.120 have another. So I agree with you on that. Yeah. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.520 If you and I married and I say, and I 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.960 say this, I said, listen, you have we want to 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.080 have we don't have one kid, and you agree with 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.800 you agree with we're just gonna have one kid and 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:11.040 you get sick. Is that her fault because you read 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:21.880 and you should have taken you Why women one conversation? 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.280 We never had a kids. It's my fault too. So 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.000 if it okay, okay, that's cool. So you say, okay, 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.480 well you have something to do and to do with this, right, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:38.080 So if my shortcomings come, you know saying, say, for instance, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.280 you you went out and you said I should check myself, right, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.040 so I shouldn't trust you in that regard, because if 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.240 I asked me, if you don't, if you don't, if 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.880 you're not kicks, if you're not come, if you if 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:56.840 you and you agree upon that we don't want one key, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.880 but you have a kid, and you should say, well, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.240 you shouldn't trust me. You should have protected yourself. Right, well, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.440 supposed I go out and give you, come back and 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.320 give you a Nereogdamn. Right should I say to you 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:15.160 when you should have protected yourself? Interesting? Different focus? Trust 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.400 if you trust? If I'm trusted, so you don't, I 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.160 don't have to trust you with holding up your end, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.400 but you have to trust responsibility to make sure responsible 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.280 when we're oulating, you know, we're not. Women cannot get 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:40.880 their tubes tied after one kid. We can't. Unless you can't, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.560 they will not allow you to try. So, Dennis, Dennis, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:51.040 how do you seem like voice, I'm just not touching 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.520 the relationship and stuff. I'm just but but I really 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.800 want to know, like you heard, fundamentally, they just disagree 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.200 on responsibility when it comes to sex, you know, like 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.400 whose responsibility is it to make sure that I don't 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.720 get pregnant or I don't get Venario disease, Like we 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.440 can't even agree on ship like that, Like, how do 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.640 we get to a point, How do we get to 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.000 a point to where we get on the same page 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.760 and that we can we can get back and grow, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.640 because you know, we have survived many battles, We have 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.679 survived many wars, but one war we cannot survive as 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.880 a gender war. We cannot win. We cannot win every 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:37.680 we cannot win. We cannot a gender war. Forever we've 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.480 in the black community, we've always had each other, men 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.040 and women have We've had black men and black women, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.920 black women, black men, no matter what kind of chaos 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.040 was going on around us. And but now, especially over 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.760 the last several years, it just seems like so many 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.199 fucking vices are out there pitting us against one another, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.080 like and we're grown as people and we're fathering for 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.640 this ship, like this is why you know on my platform, no, no, no, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.880 but listen, No nobody can come to my platform, period. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.600 I don't care who you are. You can't come on 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.600 my platform and talk down and disparage black women, period. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.040 You can't come on my platform and disparage black men, period. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.000 I don't play that ship because I understand that we're 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.200 in a motherfucking struggle for our survival, a very existence. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.679 Now we don't even understand. Man, we had motherfucking war. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:31.400 Everybody nobody likes us, okay, and that's fine with me, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.120 But god damn, we gotta like each other. We gotta 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.720 love each other. So how do we get that? All right? 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.400 Let me let me let's let's look at it like 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.600 let's let's look at the infrastructure that we're dealing with. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.600 You have a group of people who are descended from 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.520 people who were kidnapped and brought from Africa who developed 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.479 their own culture. We refer to them as African Americans, 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.160 Black Americans. Some people refer to them as a dos 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.560 to f b A. That's a group of people were 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.600 talking about. Now you have amongst this population of forty 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.319 five million black people in the United States, only about 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.480 seventy five of them are what you would consider f 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.160 BA or ados. That population is shrinking. The question is why, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.960 because you have Africans coming from overseas, you have Africans 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.280 coming from the Caribbean, So that particular culture that we 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.320 referred to as Ados is dissipating. That's what you're talking 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.440 about now. In that culture what you have is a 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.440 situation where black men and black women don't get along. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.760 That wasn't me that said that. That was movie Obsidian Ali, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.800 who was a famous YouTuber, and he pointed that out 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.880 back in wrote a book about it. I said, wow. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.120 He said, the fundamental problem that we had as black 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.680 people going into the twentieth century was racism. The fundamental 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.880 problem we have going into the twenty one system one 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.120 century is that black people, black men, and women don't 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.400 get along. The question is why now A lot of 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.560 people pitched us as a gender a war with Kevin 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.640 Samuel's and many of us who have been in and 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:09.320 out of the manisphere and listen and study this, and again, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.920 Kevin is much more. He was much more versing, and 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.840 he was willing to talk to people. That's how you know. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.040 He loved black women and he loved black men. But 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.840 what we've realized is that this is not necessarily a 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.400 gender war. This is a renegotiation of the social contract. See. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.840 Prior to nineteen fifty five, black Americans were the most 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.800 married group of people in America, more than white people. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.000 After nineteen fifty five, with the onset of feminism and 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.080 white feminists came to the black community and say, hey, girl, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.640 come help us and walk with women's will give you 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.240 a job, will give you these benefits. Just leave that 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.000 man alone. A matter of fact, he's oppressing you. It's 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.560 like our white man is oppressing us. But the black 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.040 man has never been in any control of any institutions 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.760 in the United States. We don't control what you eat, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.840 we don't control where you vote, we don't control where 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.560 you to school, where you live, or any of that. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.560 So to try to equate black men fighting with black 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.760 women and black women fighting with black men as oppression 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.640 at the same instance in white folks. If white men 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.720 have put upon white women is disingenuous. Kevin understood that. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.080 So black women were fooled. And here's the thing, because 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.560 they've been empowered. You're not going to give up that power. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.360 And here's the other thing you have to understand. For 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.440 the past fifty years, black women have been given the 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.040 bullhorn to complain and scream and yell about all the 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.240 horrible things that black men have done. But over the 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.200 past ten years, black men have developed an independent voice, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.800 largely because of social media. And so what are we 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.560 doing now? You heard their side for the first forty years, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.960 and now you're had black men speak for the next 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.520 the last ten years. This is a renegotiation. There was 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.560 a time when marriage was necessary. You needed to be 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.080 married because there were wolves and bats and bears and 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.320 and and all sorts of things out there, and the 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.160 duties needed to be divided. You need you what you 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.600 get as a as as a as a in exchange 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.400 for protection and provision. You've got submission and cooperation from 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.560 your woman. You got respect from your family. Women don't 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.920 need men anymore. And I hate to say that, but 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.639 they don't need us. That they can go to the 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.840 grocery store. They can get a job. They can they 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.639 can get it, they can make more money than you. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.959 They can get an education. So we're renegotiating the contract. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.520 And the question is what are the terms gonna be. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.439 That's what we're dealing with. So and here's and and 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.760 going back to that that that infrastructure you got more 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.040 africanare always gonna be Africans on this planet. They're always 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.560 gonna be Africans in America. But the question is is 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:45.240 this f b A, this ATOS culture isn't gonna slowly shrink, shrink, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.520 shrink because we don't get along That's why you see 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.399 young black men, especially middle school You guys who have 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.040 children who are middle school age, are they dating black girls? 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.919 Ask yourself that we gotta you see young black girls. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.600 They're dating all more so, you see this culture dissipating. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:08.920 So Kevin realized that he realized he loved black people. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.280 He has a black daughter who's twenty one years old 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.760 and a black mother, and he's watched her board. The 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:20.800 man had twelve siblings. His daddy had twelve other children 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.840 by I believe twelve other different women. He saw what 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.320 his mother had to go through. He wanted her to 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.440 do better. He wants his daughter. He wanted his daughter 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.800 to do better. He was screaming in Holland, and he 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.600 wanted to get married himself. The reason the man took 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.040 got married a couple of different times because he still 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.160 had hope. Even now, the man had hope. You see 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.000 what I'm saying, And it was only recently said I 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.200 just I need to He started dating out more, you see. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.720 And so what I'm saying is, and I hate to 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.840 be like this. They're always gonna be black people on 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.400 this planet. But this culture that we have called atos, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.399 it's toxic right now and we don't get along. And 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.240 until you have more people who genuinely love black people 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.320 and who are really to scream at us and holler 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.520 at us and fuss at us and hurt our feelings, 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.760 it's gonna dissipate. You said something that was very profound. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:19.240 It's like about the duty and and and it was 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.480 even probably like two years ago. Women always hurt. Women 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.280 say I need a man to court me, I need 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.520 a man to date me. They use its anonymous right 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.720 courting date. So I went and looked at both words, 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.439 and I looked at I looked. I looked at both words, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.480 and I looked at the history of courting and dating. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.560 And I didn't realize that dating was a new phenomena 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.280 like the latter part of the fifties. So women were like, well, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.800 I need a guy to be I need to be 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.560 courted and dating two different things, because courting was what 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:57.720 you were saying. So our grandmothers and and great grandmothers 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.520 they were courted and courted men. I met your father, 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.880 I liked you, I liked your family. Hey, you come 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.840 over my house. We're gonna cook for the man. And 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:16.280 it almost interviewed the family for the woman. Yeah, this 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.480 dating ship didn't start into the late fifties early sixties, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.640 even with white women, because what people had is what 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.720 he said, there was in power that had more money, 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.560 that would been moving around more. And then me and 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.680 came back from from the war and they had disposable income, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.800 so they can go out more to dinner. Well before 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.520 and then when a woman said I'm old school, old 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.000 school was even you would even me. And if I 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.440 had a daughter and I wanted him to her the 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.680 date him, I would even send her to his house 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.239 to clean up. Now, so now when women say I 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.000 want old school dating, I'm like, well, come on over 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.119 in my career, because that's either that or do your history. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:03.399 Because that was courting right that into the late agree 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:10.200 that it was a whole different duty, as my man said, Okay, well, 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.560 he repeated, Kevin, it was a whole different duty. Right, 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.800 So we first have to even know what we're saying, 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:18.720 because you know, I hear women say, oh I need 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.119 to be courted, well really, well, okay, well I need 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.879 you to watch these clothes. So I mean, because that 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.280 was part of course, it's the exchange. Yeah, it was 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.159 part of it was part of court. I agree. I 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.080 think that there are women that are not responsible in 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.680 dating or courting whichever word that we're going to use, 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.600 is like their women have a responsibility also in the 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.200 dating process. And I don't think a lot of women 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.400 even in marriage sometimes a lot of women don't don't 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.120 bring it, you know. And Chirsteve Harvey say that it's 0:21:48.960 --> 0:22:02.000 already as yesterday he said, ends to a woman, it's 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.879 eighty five the woman and the man get fifteen. I 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:11.600 was like, no, he said, when you're in the marriage, 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.760 so you know, men and people sometimes say it's fifty 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.119 fifty or whatever. He was like, no, he was like 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.600 he was saying that. He said that it's eighty five. 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.719 The woman, she gets eighty five ship out of the 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.760 marriage and you get fifteen. When I believe a marriage 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.720 should be fluent because in some instance you might get 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.560 the woman might get eighty five, right because whatever that is, 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.359 I might be provided a certain thing, but then sometimes 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:46.560 I might get so hundred on most sides, you know. 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:52.200 That's that's that's why Kevin Samuels was so effective because 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:57.720 of sempass niggas like exactly, Steve, That's why he was 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.840 That's why he was so expect we want men want 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.680 to Men want to hear men, men want men want 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:10.959 to hear men talk about women like men talk about 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:15.440 women like not how simps talk? Were men want to 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.720 hear men have real conversations about relationships. It ain't not true. 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:25.040 It's not true. You don't want to hear it, Broods 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:35.439 revoting podcast will be right back after Street tell us 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.040 about some of the positives and you know what, you 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.240 know what I'd rather get it? Direct this to the women. 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.800 Do you are there any positives that came from Kevin's 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.320 uh information that he imparted on on us? Did you 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.280 get any did you did you bring back any positives 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:56.920 conversations like these, I think that starting the conversation for 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.960 us to really sit down and do the dirty word 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.440 amongst those close to us are in our own communities 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:07.040 is important. So I think just starting the conversation so 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.920 we can begin to understand each other, and you know it, 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:12.920 guys from there, because right now I agree with you 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:27.240 is not okay? That was good? I think I would say, 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.400 I would say just a lot of young men who 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.120 came up without a father definitely looked up to him 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.760 and relied a lot on his opinions and how he 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.280